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Speaker 1: The much telegraph shakeup of Marie government departments has finally

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Speaker 1: been revealed sort of. The government is looking to streamline

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Speaker 1: the functions of the Office for Marie Crown Relations and

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Speaker 1: the Ministry for Mari Development. Now the Marory Crown Relations

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Speaker 1: Minister is of course Tim of Potuka, who is with us.

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Speaker 1: A very good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, got on Mike and it's a beautiful day. And

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Speaker 2: kettykidd or Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: I reckon is it actually been announced or has this

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Speaker 1: sort of been leaked in by a thousand cuts through

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Speaker 1: leaked emails and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Both. There's been a bit of distribution prior to the announcement,

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Speaker 2: but we've announced it. We're really focused on supporting mighty

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Speaker 2: economic and social success and dealing to treaty quins.

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Speaker 1: So is this about efficiencies essentially?

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Speaker 2: It is. There's a bit of confusion and a bit

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Speaker 2: of duplication across the public sector in these matters, but

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Speaker 2: we're really focused on making sure we get many development

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Speaker 2: from government perspective back on track.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the Office of Maori Crown Relations only deal

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Speaker 1: with treaty settlements, right.

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Speaker 2: That's what we want to happen out of for TV

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Speaker 2: office to deal with treaty settlements and Tucker time warn

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Speaker 2: or customary title issues and then to put in corkey

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Speaker 2: get up for future focus around economic and social development

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Speaker 2: and other matters.

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Speaker 1: Given that, as you explain, it makes perfect sense why

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Speaker 1: the angst.

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Speaker 2: Ah there's a lot of concern with what's been going

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Speaker 2: on the context of how we're engaging on treaty related

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Speaker 2: and Marty issues, but aren't pretty firm and suddenly and

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Speaker 2: my soundings with EU and Marty leaders throughout the country,

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Speaker 2: they want their confusion sorted. They don't want ambiguity in

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Speaker 2: this space, and neither do our New Zealanders generally.

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Speaker 1: Are their job losses involve.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a matter to be dealt with with Public

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Speaker 2: Service Commissioner and the chief executives. What's really clear to

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Speaker 2: me is that there is a little bit of duplication.

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Speaker 2: But if I look at all the credible, positive, successful

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Speaker 2: MARTI businesses and social services providers and say, okay, how

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Speaker 2: can we really supercharge them to do the jobs that

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Speaker 2: they need to do, and in the meantime set all

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Speaker 2: the outstanding treaty claims like napoo and more qui parts here.

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Speaker 1: Right when you say napoo, it just it triggers me.

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Speaker 1: How long are we going to have treaty settlements going for?

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Speaker 2: Well, there are some outstanding courses leading about seventy percent,

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Speaker 2: but the historic ones we really want to deal with

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Speaker 2: them within the next five or six years. But Miss

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith ultimately in charge of that matter.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, but it seems odd that fifty years on from

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Speaker 1: the White Tangi Tribunal, we're still sitting here talking about

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Speaker 1: and having infrastructure funded by the taxpayer to argue over

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Speaker 1: treaty settlements that probably should have been settled twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: or forty years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's part of why we're really focused on making

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Speaker 2: sure this office, the Office of Mighty Crown Relations, is

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Speaker 2: really dedicated to dealing to the remaining treaty settlements so

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Speaker 2: then we can get on into that future development space

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Speaker 2: that I'm so enthusiastic about with GDPPA capita, which is

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Speaker 2: where we need to be.

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Speaker 1: Right, what do you reckon the Reserve Bank's going to

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Speaker 1: do today?

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Speaker 2: Oh, no comment, no comment. I have a mortgage, so

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Speaker 2: let's see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, have you got carpet any garage.

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Speaker 2: Carbon carpet? Carpet? No, no carpet in my garage.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a carpeted garage?

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Speaker 2: No, I've never had one of those, and sometimes I

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Speaker 2: haven't ed a garage either.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. If I asked you what percentage

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Speaker 1: of garages in this country are carpeted, what would you say?

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Speaker 2: H one out of six.

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Speaker 1: Ninety three post ninety three percent are carpeted. Are carpeted?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm in the lucky seven percent.

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Speaker 1: Has to talk to your time at Tammerfotaker, who's the

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Speaker 1: married Crown Relations Minister.

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