1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:17,853 --> 00:00:18,213 Speaker 2: When you. 4 00:00:20,453 --> 00:00:30,773 Speaker 1: See it's. 5 00:00:37,253 --> 00:00:49,493 Speaker 2: Sun is Fun and. 6 00:00:48,293 --> 00:00:53,573 Speaker 3: Yous Dogs thirteen to twelve. That's Weezer Island in the Sun. 7 00:00:54,253 --> 00:00:57,133 Speaker 3: That music reviewer Chris Schultz has been in a weaser 8 00:00:57,133 --> 00:00:59,813 Speaker 3: frame of mind over the last couple of days as 9 00:00:59,813 --> 00:01:03,053 Speaker 3: they perform at the Good Things Music Festival in Australia. 10 00:01:03,093 --> 00:01:05,493 Speaker 3: But Chris has the craziest week because Good Things isn't 11 00:01:05,493 --> 00:01:07,373 Speaker 3: the only thing. He's a team thing. He's with us now, 12 00:01:07,493 --> 00:01:08,813 Speaker 3: Chris run us through the week. 13 00:01:10,693 --> 00:01:14,373 Speaker 4: It's been pretty wild. It started with the Kendrick Lamar 14 00:01:14,613 --> 00:01:19,013 Speaker 4: Stadium spectacle and then he played another one the night 15 00:01:19,053 --> 00:01:21,693 Speaker 4: after which I also got to go and see Dolci 16 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:24,533 Speaker 4: open for that show, one of the year's most exciting 17 00:01:24,573 --> 00:01:30,973 Speaker 4: new artists. And then yesterday, yeah, Good Things Festival. That's 18 00:01:31,173 --> 00:01:33,893 Speaker 4: only one of three festivals that are on in this 19 00:01:34,133 --> 00:01:38,373 Speaker 4: insane week. There are also two Lady Gaga stadium shows 20 00:01:38,413 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 4: as well, and a whole bunch of other smaller side 21 00:01:42,373 --> 00:01:47,653 Speaker 4: shows from those events. So yeah, it's a week like 22 00:01:47,813 --> 00:01:50,333 Speaker 4: no other. I am over here in Australia for that 23 00:01:50,453 --> 00:01:53,973 Speaker 4: week and don't get me wrong, It is a heck 24 00:01:54,013 --> 00:01:56,373 Speaker 4: of a lot of fun. I have had so much 25 00:01:56,413 --> 00:01:58,093 Speaker 4: fun that I am going to have to throw my 26 00:01:58,213 --> 00:02:00,493 Speaker 4: shoes out. They are ruined. I need to get new 27 00:02:00,533 --> 00:02:04,733 Speaker 4: shoes today. But there's a serious side to this too, 28 00:02:04,853 --> 00:02:07,613 Speaker 4: right because all year we've seen all of these acts 29 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:13,093 Speaker 4: bypass New Zealand in favor of doing these exclusive Australian trips, 30 00:02:13,093 --> 00:02:17,373 Speaker 4: and so going to Australia traveling for concerts is something 31 00:02:17,453 --> 00:02:19,733 Speaker 4: we've had to become a custom to. MUK fans have 32 00:02:19,813 --> 00:02:22,213 Speaker 4: had to do this if they want to see these 33 00:02:22,773 --> 00:02:24,653 Speaker 4: major acts. And I can give you the list, you know, 34 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:28,893 Speaker 4: it's it's Kylie Mino, Katie Perry, ac DC, Green Day, 35 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:33,293 Speaker 4: Billie Eilish. The list goes on and on, and we're 36 00:02:33,333 --> 00:02:36,653 Speaker 4: all sort of like, we're still talking about the impact 37 00:02:36,853 --> 00:02:41,373 Speaker 4: this one Metallica show had in Auckland just last month. Yeah, 38 00:02:41,773 --> 00:02:44,453 Speaker 4: there's still stories being written about the impact that had 39 00:02:44,533 --> 00:02:48,573 Speaker 4: on on businesses, on the economy, on hotels and restaurants. 40 00:02:49,413 --> 00:02:54,173 Speaker 4: And it's just in Melbourne. It's it's just keeping going. 41 00:02:54,373 --> 00:02:57,453 Speaker 4: It's it's it's wild. Really, it's just a whole week 42 00:02:57,533 --> 00:03:01,413 Speaker 4: that's kind of unprecedented that we're not getting any of. 43 00:03:01,813 --> 00:03:05,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is pretty stark when you 44 00:03:05,573 --> 00:03:08,813 Speaker 3: when you read out that list of artists and when 45 00:03:08,813 --> 00:03:11,053 Speaker 3: you consider what you've experienced in just the last couple 46 00:03:11,053 --> 00:03:13,373 Speaker 3: of days. So you going to Lady Gaga tonight? 47 00:03:14,813 --> 00:03:19,173 Speaker 4: I am seeing the Lady Gaga Stadium Spectacle tonight. Yes. 48 00:03:19,653 --> 00:03:21,573 Speaker 4: I think it's at Marvel Stadium, which is like eighty 49 00:03:21,613 --> 00:03:24,173 Speaker 4: thousand people. A friend of mine was there last night. 50 00:03:24,253 --> 00:03:27,973 Speaker 4: He messaged me one text message that said greatest night 51 00:03:27,973 --> 00:03:30,573 Speaker 4: in my life. So a lot to live up to there. 52 00:03:31,093 --> 00:03:34,053 Speaker 4: It's also jack like something happened on Wednesday that first 53 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:38,533 Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamar show. Louise Upston, Our Tourism Minister announced a 54 00:03:38,573 --> 00:03:43,893 Speaker 4: suite of concerts and festivals that are coming to New Zealand. 55 00:03:43,893 --> 00:03:46,413 Speaker 4: The government is trying to do something about this. They've 56 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:50,293 Speaker 4: launched this Major Events Fund. They're trying to entice major artists. 57 00:03:50,373 --> 00:03:53,853 Speaker 4: Back in the first recipients so that were six sixty 58 00:03:53,893 --> 00:03:56,653 Speaker 4: and Cincinny to open Takaha, the New Stadium in christ 59 00:03:56,693 --> 00:04:00,533 Speaker 4: Church and a Lincoln Park show for Auckland and the 60 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:05,573 Speaker 4: CDM Festival for Wellington Ultra Festival. But it just the 61 00:04:05,613 --> 00:04:07,413 Speaker 4: timing of that really struck me. You know, I just 62 00:04:07,573 --> 00:04:09,933 Speaker 4: landed in Melbourne and I was about to go to 63 00:04:10,053 --> 00:04:12,453 Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamara and I saw that come through, and like, 64 00:04:12,533 --> 00:04:15,133 Speaker 4: that's great. It's really good news that they've recognized us 65 00:04:15,133 --> 00:04:18,133 Speaker 4: as a problem. They're doing something about it. But it's 66 00:04:18,133 --> 00:04:20,933 Speaker 4: too little, too late for these shows that are already 67 00:04:20,973 --> 00:04:22,293 Speaker 4: locked in for Australia. 68 00:04:22,413 --> 00:04:25,773 Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting I think is that if you think 69 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:29,693 Speaker 3: about the economics of the music industry at large today, 70 00:04:30,093 --> 00:04:33,933 Speaker 3: clearly in the streaming era, the ways in which artists 71 00:04:34,053 --> 00:04:38,253 Speaker 3: make money and make a livelihood, the balance has shifted right. 72 00:04:38,293 --> 00:04:40,693 Speaker 3: So whereas in the past that they would have made 73 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:45,933 Speaker 3: a larger proportion of their income from selling records, these days, 74 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:51,573 Speaker 3: given they famously get such pitiful sums from the big streamers, 75 00:04:52,293 --> 00:04:55,973 Speaker 3: many more artists are putting on these huge shows as 76 00:04:56,253 --> 00:04:58,893 Speaker 3: they're kind of primary source of income and going on 77 00:04:58,973 --> 00:05:01,853 Speaker 3: these big world these huge world tours and these big 78 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:05,213 Speaker 3: stadium tours. It's a real kind of trend for the 79 00:05:05,253 --> 00:05:08,413 Speaker 3: world's biggest artists. And so if New Zealand isn't able 80 00:05:08,453 --> 00:05:11,173 Speaker 3: to reverse the current position and isn't able to actually 81 00:05:11,493 --> 00:05:13,373 Speaker 3: entice a few more of these artists, it's going to 82 00:05:13,373 --> 00:05:14,013 Speaker 3: be a real issue. 83 00:05:14,053 --> 00:05:18,333 Speaker 4: I think, well, I think you know that Metallica shows 84 00:05:18,333 --> 00:05:22,013 Speaker 4: the great example, right, Like the city's maxed out, it 85 00:05:22,093 --> 00:05:25,333 Speaker 4: feels exciting, everyone's out and about and it just has 86 00:05:25,373 --> 00:05:29,933 Speaker 4: this kind of lift everyone feels. I don't know, it's 87 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:32,213 Speaker 4: just it's kind of exciting. It's kind of cool when 88 00:05:32,293 --> 00:05:34,773 Speaker 4: when these major artists come through. But you're right, stadiums 89 00:05:34,773 --> 00:05:38,133 Speaker 4: are the currency these massive acts are trading in now, 90 00:05:38,253 --> 00:05:41,693 Speaker 4: and because it's so expensive to tour, these stage setups 91 00:05:41,733 --> 00:05:43,213 Speaker 4: are just ginormous. 92 00:05:43,253 --> 00:05:43,413 Speaker 2: You know. 93 00:05:43,453 --> 00:05:46,093 Speaker 4: I saw this at the Kendrick Lamar show. There's some 94 00:05:46,373 --> 00:05:49,773 Speaker 4: huge screens and and he's got these he's got a 95 00:05:49,813 --> 00:05:53,613 Speaker 4: car on stage, he's got these giant steps that he's 96 00:05:53,613 --> 00:05:56,093 Speaker 4: sitting on and performing off, and then there's pyro and 97 00:05:56,173 --> 00:06:00,133 Speaker 4: fireworks going off constantly. Like these are expensive shows to 98 00:06:00,173 --> 00:06:04,893 Speaker 4: put on and bringing that down to New Zealand is tricky. 99 00:06:05,613 --> 00:06:07,933 Speaker 4: That's what one of the things the government is trying 100 00:06:07,933 --> 00:06:11,333 Speaker 4: to help out with and address there. So I can 101 00:06:11,453 --> 00:06:14,453 Speaker 4: understand why they're not coming. But you know, most of 102 00:06:14,453 --> 00:06:17,173 Speaker 4: these acts have been to New Zealand before they've played 103 00:06:17,173 --> 00:06:19,333 Speaker 4: it for you know, I really hope this is just 104 00:06:19,373 --> 00:06:22,653 Speaker 4: a blip that we've recognized it, and that you know, 105 00:06:22,933 --> 00:06:25,613 Speaker 4: in the coming years we'll get back on that touring 106 00:06:25,653 --> 00:06:28,053 Speaker 4: map and we'll be able to see them again. And 107 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:32,093 Speaker 4: I don't have to keep coming to Australia because it's 108 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:35,053 Speaker 4: a lot more expensive, you don't. 109 00:06:34,893 --> 00:06:36,333 Speaker 3: Say, especially when you've got to buy a new pair 110 00:06:36,373 --> 00:06:39,653 Speaker 3: of shoes. Hey, thank you so much. Have a wonderful 111 00:06:39,653 --> 00:06:41,773 Speaker 3: time at gagat and I make sure you hydrate lots, 112 00:06:41,773 --> 00:06:46,173 Speaker 3: and we look forward to hearing if indeed Gaga Stadium 113 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:47,813 Speaker 3: Tour makes for one of the best nights of your 114 00:06:47,853 --> 00:06:51,013 Speaker 3: life as well. 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