1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: But meanwhile, let's go overseas. We go to Gail Downey now, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: who is our UK correspondent. Hello and Heavy New year. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Gail, Hello Andrew, and happy new Year to you two. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: And let's get to the issue of the of the day, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: and this is the Gaza and Israel deal and the 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: swap of hostages. So we've had a British Israeli hostage released. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: That's right. Her name is Emily Demara and she's among 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: three young women released as part of the ceasefire agreement 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: in Gaza. She and the other hostages were reunited with 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: their mums at the Sheba Hospital in Tel Aviv, where 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: they were undergoing medical checks. Emily was seen with a 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: bandage around her hand and has two missing fingers, and 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: she had been shot when she was captured by her 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: mass at the kibbutz where she'd been working. We don't 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: know any more detail than that she's been held captive 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: for four hundred and seventy one days and further hostage 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: releases are expected in a staged process which is going 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: to take place over the next few weeks. And in return, 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: ninety Palestinian prisoners, mostly women and children, have been freed 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: from Israeli jails as part of the deal. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Do you think we'll ever hear her story, because four 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one days is enormous. The toll will 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: be great, the mental toll will be great, and there'll 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: be some people who will want to tell the story, 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: which we would like to hear, but there'll be others 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: who would never go near us. Yeah. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: I suspect that at this moment in time, until all 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: the hostages are released, people have decided not to say 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: very much. That We've had a few little bits and 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: pieces from people talking about their conditions, but it may 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: be that the Israeli government feel it's unsafe for people 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: to talk about it because there are still people being 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: held hostage. So I don't know in the long run 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: whether these stories will come out. I'm sure they will 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: in the end, but at the moment, people don't seem 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: to be saying very much, only the occasional snippet. 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: That's understandable. But whenever we mention either side in our 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: news stories at the moment, we get an incredible reaction 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: from the other side from our listenership, and it takes 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. This I think it's important to announce to reiterate, 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: is sc S fire. It's not the end of the problem. 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: No, this is a very much a stage process, and 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: what happens in the future, of course, has yet to 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: be decided. Because if you saw the images of displaced 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Palestinians who basically were bombed out of the Gaza Strip, 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: they're now returning home. But if you see the images 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: of the Gaza Strip, one has to ask themselves, hold 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: on a minute, there's a massive reconstruction process going that 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: needs to be done here. Who's going to pay for 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: it and who is going to rule if you like, 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: in the strictest sense the strip once things kind of 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: do eventually maybe get back to where they were. But 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: when you see the images, you just think this is 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: one of a reconstruction job. 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely. But the thing here is that Emily Danaly is 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: home with her people. Prince Harry, he's going to court again. 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it's part of a massive case against the parent company, 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: Newsgroup Newspapers, which owns The Sun and it also owned 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: which is now closed, the newspaper the Sunday newspaper, The 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: News of the World. It's the first time the group 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: itself has had to put up a defense against allegations 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: that journalists and executives knew what was going on in 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: the way that the stories were gathered by phone hacking 64 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: and other illegal methods. Because in the past what's been 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: claimed is it was just a handful of wrongdoers and 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: some of whom have been sent to prisons. So this 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: is a case against the group. Now the group has 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: apologized for and lawful practices at the News of the 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: World and as to say, it close it down in 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: twenty eleven, but it denies similar claims against the Sun 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: newspaper and Prince Harry's wider allegations of a corporate a massive, 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: corporate wide cover up. 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: This has been costing Harry a fortune. 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Oh, undoubtedly. You don't get a cheap lawyers anywhere if 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: you don't get two lawyers and cheap parises in London 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: for sure. 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: And is this happening in London. 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, it's happening in London. Starts tomorrow and 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: obviously we'll bring you more news on that as it happens. 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Will Harry be in attendance. 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: One expects him to be in attendance, yes. 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: And will he be giving evidence. 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: That I don't know at this moment. In time. I 84 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: mean he has in the past certainly, which has been 85 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: incredibly interesting, but at the moment we don't know. 86 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: And here's a great question for you. Why is a 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: local council in Lincolnshire giving out free air friers to 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: six thousand pinsioners. 89 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: Well once, it's an interesting story actually because what's happened 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: is that the government when it came in, it's controversially 91 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: scrapped what's called the Winter Fuel Payment, which is given 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: to all pensioners in the UK as part of an 93 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: aid to help them with winter fuel bills. Now it 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: says only a certain group of pensioners, people on benefits 95 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: in the main who can now claim for it. And 96 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: what it's done, it's set up something called a Household 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Support Fund and local authorities, local councils can dip into 98 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: the Household Support Fund and use that support householders to 99 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: support pensions. And what this council has done has said 100 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: we are going to give out use that money to 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: give out air fryers to six thousand pensioners to help 102 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: with their energy bills. They're also giving out thirteen hundred 103 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: slow cookers and four hundred one cup kettles and of 104 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: course it's much cheaper to use an air fraft than 105 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: it is to use a biggers. So the idea is yeah, yeah. 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, okay, funny old thing, got we overthink stuff. Hey, Gail, 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today. Talking again later. 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: That is Gail Downey, who is our UK correspondent. 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 110 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio