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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: You perspective perhaps of the other schools or the let's

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Speaker 2: say the incumbent view School Sports CEO for New Zealanders,

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Speaker 2: Mike Summerle Mike, great to have you on the program

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. What was your initial reaction when you heard

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Speaker 2: the news.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's come of a bit of a surprise. Obviously

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Speaker 3: outside of what's been reported in the media, we don't

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Speaker 3: have any information or detail about the school or their

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Speaker 3: desire to become a member of school Sport New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So it's I think we need to have a bit

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Speaker 3: of a chat with David Dome, and we've reached out

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Speaker 3: to the Phoenix to get a better understanding of the

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Speaker 3: intent or otherwise to participate in our events. So until

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Speaker 3: we really have that chat, there's not much to speculate on.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a positive for kids around the country.

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Speaker 3: Look, charter schools certainly have a lot of flexibility and

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Speaker 3: autonomy and how they structure their curriculs. They can offer

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Speaker 3: different school hours, specific focuses and so on, and that

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Speaker 3: can benefit a group of students who might be underachieving

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Speaker 3: or disengaged or I might have a very clear pathway

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Speaker 3: that they want to follow, and in this case sport.

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Speaker 3: So you know, for those year eleven students who have

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Speaker 3: serious ambitions to become a professional athlete, then this environment

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Speaker 3: could certainly support that.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect it will fit into your national calendar

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Speaker 2: of secondary school sports events? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Look, charter schools by definition can become a member of

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Speaker 3: school Sport New Zealand. What they need to adhere to

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Speaker 3: is the same of every school in New Zealand, so

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Speaker 3: we need to have a chat with them to understand curriculum, load,

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Speaker 3: attendance requirements, etc. And like I said, until we have

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Speaker 3: that chat, it's probably not right to speculate on what

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Speaker 3: that might mean.

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Speaker 2: Have you had charter schools, charter schools around the country

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Speaker 2: part of it currently?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Saint Stephen's sorry Tiffany, are a member have year

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Speaker 3: nine students currently enrolled, so they probably don't have the

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Speaker 3: mass to participate on a national level right now, but

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Speaker 3: you know that we want to work with all schools

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Speaker 3: that can meet that criteria to become a member and

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Speaker 3: get all those incredible opportunities that exists through the calendar.

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Speaker 2: How do you expect schools might react. Is it just

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Speaker 2: another school to you know, the other schools. Is it

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Speaker 2: just another one that adds to the books, or is

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Speaker 2: this going to be something outside the box.

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Speaker 3: I look, there's certainly a lot of interest. We've been

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Speaker 3: fielding a lot of questions from member schools and Principles,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. We just need detail. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: great opportunity for those kids. But obviously we know that

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Speaker 3: the flip side of all the great things that can

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Speaker 3: come with that specialization pieces, especially when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: sport and professional athletes, it's the one and two percent

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Speaker 3: that actually ever go on and make a career out

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Speaker 3: of those things. So I would hope that the focus

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Speaker 3: right now for that charter school is around the educational component,

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Speaker 3: you know, developing what it looks like for the ninety

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Speaker 3: odd percent of those that might not actually get a

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Speaker 3: professional contract out of all of this, and make sure

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Speaker 3: they come out with the qualifications and the attributes they

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Speaker 3: need to be a functioning citizen.

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Speaker 2: What are the kind of questions that Principles are already

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Speaker 2: asking you, Mike, Oh, just.

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Speaker 3: Really general, what do you know about it? You know

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Speaker 3: that's really outside of what's been reported in the media.

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Speaker 3: There really isn't much information to go on, so I

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Speaker 3: think there's always a risk or a thought that some

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Speaker 3: schools might feel that they are going to lose their

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Speaker 3: talented athletes that they've been developing. But until we really

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Speaker 3: understand what the intent of the new sports charter school

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Speaker 3: is going to be, there's no points in speculating around

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Speaker 3: what it might look like.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a fascinating see how this develops.

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Speaker 2: With it starting two to one next year, it's a

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Speaker 2: quick turned around. Mike, thank you very much for joining

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Speaker 2: us on News Talk ZIBB. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Mike summer All there joining us on News Talk ZIBB

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Speaker 2: school Sport CEO.

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