1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Devin Gray are UK correspondents with us even in Gevin. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Hither what are the chances Rachel Reeves actually does what 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: she's told to do and raises taxes. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: So Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, the money in person in 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: the government, will give out her budget, her plans for 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: the economy in October, and as the days come closer, 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: it really really does look like she's going to have 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: to raise taxes. And that is because now another very 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: well respected economic think tank here in the UK, the 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: National Institute of Economic and Social Research, not the most 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: catchy title, says we've got a black hole of some 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: eighty five billion New Zealand dollars, maybe even a bit 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: more actually on that exchange, but something very very large 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: black hole to fill. And Rachel Reeves has set out 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: two rules for government borrowing. The first is that day 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: to day spending will be paid for with government revenue 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: that's taxes, and borrowing can only be for investment. And 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: the second rule is that debt must be falling as 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: a share of national income by the end of the parliament. Well, 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: these now are said to be non negotia left by 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: raising taxes, so it looks like that's probably going to 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: have to happen. But this is a massive, massive shortfall 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: and massive gap to fill, and the think tank says 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: that living standards are the poorest ten percent of the 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: population and now ten percent lower than pre COVID levels, 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: so it says they should be protected from these tax rises. 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: What's going to happen with the kafuffle over whether the 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: police give out the ethnicity of people who they've charged. 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to have to happen. So 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: at the moment, the rules regarding what police unveil at 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: the time of charging a suspect, questioning a suspect and 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: going to court are really very very strict and they 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: give very little information out. What people are calling for 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: is that they should give out more information about the 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: ethnicity and background of those who have been charged, particularly 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: whether or not they are asylum seekers. Now this has 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: all come to the foe because two men have been 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: charged with the rape of a twelve year old girl 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: in Warwickshire in the Midlands in England, and it's reported 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: they are Afghan asylum seekers. Now the situation here has 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: been very tense, with a number of protests, some turning 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: a little violent outside hotels where asylum seekers are being housed. 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: There are roughly two hundred hotels being used for this 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: purposes and the daily cost for housing asylum seekers and 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: looking after them is a staggering ten million New Zealand 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: dollars per day and people are getting fed up with it. 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: And so what now It's interesting is that the Prime 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: Minister and his government are saying, do you know what, Actually, 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: maybe we should be slackening the rules and regulations about 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: what can and can't be said in order to avert 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: potential flare ups over misinformation, which incidentally is really what 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: happened way back. You're but last summer a year ago 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: when Axel Ruder Bicana murdered three young girls at a 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: dance class, a summer dance class in Southport, which led 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: to riots. It was said at the time he was 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: an illegal migrant. He wasn't. He was here legally with 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: his parents having come from Africa. So that's what they're 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: looking at. And I think there's a great deal of 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: pressure now as they realize this. Even though the general 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: election could be years away, this could be the defining 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: issue for that election. 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, fair point. Now, so there was no bullying 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: at Prince Harry's charity. 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: No, So the charity regulator has found there was no bullying, 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: harassment or misogyny at Center Balley. That's the charity that 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: Prince Harry set up but has since resigned along with 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: several other trustees earlier this year following a very very 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: bitter boardroom dispute and whistleblower allegations. Now the Charity Commissions 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: has imposed no sanctions. The current leadership will remain at 70 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: the charity. Arity supports young people in Southern Africa, very 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: very close to Prince Harry's heart, but he's now gone. 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: And this is a bittersweet outcome for Prince Harry, which 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: is obviously being deeply personal to him. But both sides 74 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: of this argument are to blame for the toxicity and 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: the damage that has been caused to the charity. According 76 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: to the Charity Commission, the row had seen Prince Harry 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: being labeled as a toxic brand by the charity's chair 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: and he'd stepped down, saying he and his trustees relationship 79 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: with the chair had broken beyond repair, saying their had 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: faced latant lives. So Prince Harry not entirely happy with 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: the ruling, but at least, it doesn't point to any 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: of those things bullying, harassment, misogyny, which is what that 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: charity was accused of. 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Gavin, thanks so much, always appreciate your time. We'll check 85 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to you in on Friday. 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