1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: And there may be some hope coming from the Chinese economy. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Last week, authorities there announced the range of monetary and 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: fiscal stimulus policies to try and get the massive economy 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: moving again. So what do we see and what might 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: it mean for New Zealand harbor Asset Management. Shane Solly 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: has been looking into this for us this evening, Kilder 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Shane Jack So just do you good things. Just talk 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: to us first of all, a bit about what the 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Chinese have actually done. 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the move started last Tuesday. We saw cuts 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: to official interest rates much like other central banks. They've 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: cut the cost of borrowing and they also eased mortgage availability. 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: This came out of the People's Bank of China. Remember 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: they've been battling a residential property market the last probably 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: decade that got out of control and we're coming through 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: the other side of it. So now they're trying to 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: ease up a bit. Interestingly, that was backed up later 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: and by the week by the Polopjuu, which is the 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: main policy making organization of the Chinese government. They came 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: out with a bunch of announcements also aiming at stabilizing housing, 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: supporting consumption and really it was a bit don't expected, 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: you know, really this new found sense of urgency, but 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: none of that. Then it was backed up by some 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: of the local government authorities announcing and easing up and 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: home ownership policies that really sort of let people go 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: and buy homes again. There's more to competentially, jack, and 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: there's a bit of speculation that there's some more fiscal stimulus, 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: particularly propping up some of the banks, giving them some 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: more capital. Certainly that's got people, we're excited. It's all. 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: The Chinese shoe market up almost sixteen percent last week 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: and even today it's up six point seven percent, So 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: I have a big day in the Chinese shaar market. 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's huge. So what has been the broader 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: global reaction to it? 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so certainly markets are still a little bit cautious, 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: a lot of detail to come out, but we have 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: seen a bit of a pop and anything that's China related, 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: and certainly we've seen the resource stocks do quite well, 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: and closer to home, you know, it is supportive for 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: our commodity exports. So if we do see Chinese consumers 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: getting bit optimistic, it's helpful for a new zone produce. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Help from his own travel. One interesting one for the 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: dairy industry is there's been an nuts aentother monthly child 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: allowance for second children and it's quite chunky if you're 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: a Chinese family, up to potentially eight hundred remember per 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: month per child, So that is relative to average person 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: earning fifteen thousand and one a year. If you're in 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: a second tier city, that's big. 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's huge. So what about New Zealand how 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: might these changes in the stimulus impact us? 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we certainly see it come through our 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: dairy sector. Should you better into this, but it's quite 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: a broad range of activities that will benefit. Depends a 54 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: little bit on where and how fast the policies come through, 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: but I think net need it's a wind for New Zealand, 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: definitely a win for Australia and by second derivative, work's 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: a wind for New Zealand. Australia obviously still one of 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: the big trading partners. So China's huge, Australia huge net 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: net positive. 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Back home, Fontira has got a new strategy. 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look they've undertaken quite in depth review. They've come 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: out and said, look we're really good at business to 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: business during nutrition and so as a result they're going 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: to focus back on this high performing ingredients food service 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: and looking to divest some of its global consumer businesses. 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: So what does it mean. It may create a better 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: path to value creation, so flowed Terra. They've come out 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: and announced some higher financial targets, higher reternal capital and 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: a different dividend policy, which is an increase in dividend. 70 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: So for farmers and for investors in the finn Terra 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: share funds might see better returns in the future. 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: It's not all positive in the dairy sector. There simmes 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: results throughout today and they're not great. 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: No, unfortunately, some are still going through some tough times. 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: They came out and announced their financial year twenty twenty 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: four results. Their earnings before interest, tax, appreciation and amortization 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: bit of a mouthfulm sorry, that was at forty five 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: mil down from seventy five million last year on lower 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: ingredients consumer gross profits. One of the things they had 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: done though, they added an increased one off payment to 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: South Island farmers who remain with Sinlay, the biggest shiet 82 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: of Sinlas, trying to retain them. People are a bit weary, 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: so they've decided to another twenty cents per kilogram of 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: milk solids to the mix to try and retain those farmers. 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: But unfortunately Sinlay didn't provide any financial year twenty five 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 2: guidance and didn't talk about volumes, didn't talk about anything, 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: so it was a pretty tough day for Cinlay. 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for your time, Jane really appreciate it. Shames 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: from Harbord Asset Management, thank you for your feedback as well. 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio