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Speaker 1: Dressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: like no one else news Dogs.

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Speaker 1: They be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Hello, good to be back with You're coming

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Speaker 3: up today on the show. Emergency Management Minister Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 3: on whether the Government's going to take over the inquiry

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Speaker 3: into the landslip, the Union on New Zealand Post shutting

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Speaker 3: down a quarter of their retail stores, and the school

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Speaker 3: uniforms debate is back again. Of course this time the

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Speaker 3: question is do we need to have generic uniforms?

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Right, it.

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Speaker 3: Seems it's a very good chance that toading A City

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Speaker 3: Council is going to have that inquiry that they've launched

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Speaker 3: taken off them and run by the government instead. That

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Speaker 3: the government hasn't actually said those words out loud just yet.

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Speaker 3: What they have said is that there is a strong

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Speaker 3: case for a government inquiry. But you can read between

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Speaker 3: the lines here they're preparing us and probably and most

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Speaker 3: importantly preparing the Toading A City Council that they the

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Speaker 3: government are going to run this inquiry and they should

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Speaker 3: be the ones running this inquiry. That the council can't

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Speaker 3: investigate its own actions like it's planning to do. No

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Speaker 3: one's going to believe the council if the Council finds

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Speaker 3: that the Council has done nothing wrong, if you follow

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying here, and there are plenty of reasons

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Speaker 3: to think actually, the Council may have done quite a

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Speaker 3: lot of things wrong here from the one one one

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Speaker 3: call they say wasn't forwarded to them until they realized whoopsie, yes,

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Speaker 3: it was actually forwarded to them to reports that they

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Speaker 3: were actually at the campground before the slip, but didn't

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Speaker 3: evacuate everyone to the fact that they were possibly involved

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Speaker 3: in the clearing of trees above the slip site. Now that,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the trees issue is potentially quite significant here.

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Speaker 3: It looks very much if you look at comparison photos,

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Speaker 3: it looks very much like trees probably berhutakawa were cleared

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Speaker 3: from the site above the slip between twenty seventeen and

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, probably to stop myrtle rust. Now, if this

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Speaker 3: is what has happened, if the Council has stuffed up

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Speaker 3: by removing trees and not replacing them when everyone knows

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Speaker 3: that plantings stabilized ground. If the council was warned about

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Speaker 3: those warnings, they should carry the can for that. I

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Speaker 3: have seen. I don't know if you've been seeing, but

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Speaker 3: I have seen too many councils lately get away with

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Speaker 3: dropping the ball. Auckland Council having drinks when the city

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Speaker 3: was flooding three years ago. Hawks Bay Regional Council begged

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Speaker 3: open the bar. Guess what wire were flooded. No one.

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Speaker 3: If no one is ever blamed for the things that

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Speaker 3: they do wrong before the event, then nothing changes. So

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Speaker 3: the government's on the right track here. They need to

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Speaker 3: take over this inquiry. Ever, dup s Allen Right nine

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Speaker 3: two nine two. Here's a text understandard text bees apply

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Speaker 3: and as I say, mark mitchure with us after five o'clock. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you do not love how much time your kids

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Speaker 3: are spending on screens, here's a little bit more research

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Speaker 3: to back you up on that. There is a new

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Speaker 3: survey by Homeward Bound which has found that young men,

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Speaker 3: like a huge number of young men, are lonely. Young

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Speaker 3: really strong correlation between these feelings of helplessness and how

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Speaker 3: Chatwan as a child psychologist and with us Hi, Sarah,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. Now, I think the number that will probably

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Speaker 3: supper most people is the fact that young men fifteen

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Speaker 3: even got one friend. Is that normal historically?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think historically it's normal, but certainly today

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Speaker 4: I think that people in my profession psychologists counselors are

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Speaker 4: hearing more and more of that and certainly equally alarming

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Speaker 4: there's a lot going on for men between fifteen to

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Speaker 3: Why don't young men have friends?

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Speaker 4: Look a really difficult question to unpack, but I would

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Speaker 4: Heither it means that they're just sitting there getting input

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Speaker 4: They're not actively seeking out friendships. They're not being active,

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Speaker 4: that impacts on friendships.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, if we unpack friendships a little bit,

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Speaker 4: Drink and you know culture, men get together to go

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Speaker 4: a long time there's been perhaps friendships that have been

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Speaker 4: socially isolated, by having friends to offload and debrief with,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great way of feeling like you

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Speaker 3: Now, for the young women, it seems to be anxiety.

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Speaker 3: That's the issue. So predominantly what they're feeling is pessimistic

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Speaker 3: to kids. But here's my question for you, what do

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Speaker 4: I definitely think that there is certainly a push and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one thing to say, okay, take take the

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Speaker 3: your screen time. That's cool, I don't mind. But then

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Speaker 3: Do you, as a parent say, you know, go and

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Speaker 4: Oh look, I don't think it's about taking thing devices

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Speaker 4: It's all very well as you say to say, hey listen,

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Speaker 3: Certainly. Yeah, Sarah, listen, thanks very much, as always appreciate

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Speaker 3: you insight. That's Sarah Chatwin child psychologists. I've got a

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Speaker 3: little bit of happy money news for Jesus. A good

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Speaker 3: day when you've got some happy money news involving the government.

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Speaker 3: Remember that trial that Doc was doing where they started

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Speaker 3: charging us us and predominantly, I'm going to say predominantly

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Speaker 3: But this is where it gets even better. That's the

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fourteen thousand dollars they've raked, and just

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Speaker 3: that's when the weather was crap. So it wasn't even

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Speaker 3: So can you imagine if we look at it, if

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Speaker 3: get some good weather in there. Yeap Dock's going to

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Speaker 2: Quarter past it's the Heather Duper see allan Drive full

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Speaker 1: It be Heather.

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Speaker 3: A lot of boys are raised by their mums. Also,

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Speaker 3: especially after the Me Too movement, the boys and men

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Speaker 3: have been demonized in more more males need role models

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Speaker 3: and men. It's probably a fair point to have made.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for making that points eighteen past four. Darcy Watergrave,

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Speaker 7: Does Welcome back, Welcome back, Welcome back. Your two young

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Speaker 7: to know what I'm talking about, aren't you? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: a wonderful TV serious and way back in the day,

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Speaker 7: someone's going to text in five double I know and

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Speaker 7: tell me what I'm talking about. John travolt wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It next fie.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, sorry, that's the old radio sport one nine

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Speaker 7: two nine two. I'm still I'm living in the past.

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Speaker 3: How long ago did we shut down radio sports?

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Speaker 7: You never shut down in my mind. I'm sorry, it

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Speaker 7: never shut down in my mind.

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Speaker 3: You're sign of going a bit wonky in the head.

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Speaker 7: I mean going a bit. I've been there, done that.

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Speaker 7: What are you talking about me? Don't you now?

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised that the vern Cotton News?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 8: Why not?

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Speaker 7: Well then I don't think ever really wanted to be

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Speaker 7: an all black coach and going to your further he

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Speaker 7: got obviously a very good offer. Queensland's a much nicer

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Speaker 7: place to be in. Have you been here in the

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Speaker 7: last two weeks?

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Speaker 3: That's awesome in the Queensland.

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Speaker 7: Well except the fact most things in Australia try to

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Speaker 7: kill you, like the floora and the fauna and the

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 7: It's been well kept under wraps for three months and

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Speaker 7: it sounds like it was pretty civil between cal Bubbes,

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Speaker 7: You don't want to be here. If a coach or

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Speaker 7: Well I don't see why we would. Really, nice guy

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Speaker 7: What's going on with the Warriors? Well, they've Rock o'berry

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Speaker 7: People will find out? Yeah, I have having welcome back coach.

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Speaker 7: This is a remix hib it. This is the good

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Speaker 11: Tell us Mace in this morning was.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, tell me what you've got. Sorry, I'm not going

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Speaker 7: Well, the former chair, I've got a I don't know

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Speaker 7: He used to producing you back in radio.

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Speaker 3: Well he was telling me before and I never knew this.

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Speaker 7: That's the one I think. Gabe Caplan was his name

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather dup c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Sa'd be Murray Olds is going to be with us

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Speaker 3: And can I point you to Ian Wishatt, who's written

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Speaker 2: V, the day's newspeakers talked to Heather first. Heather Duplicy

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Speaker 3: Is going to be with us after five o'clock. We're

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Speaker 3: US media is reporting that eight hundred federal agents, including

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Speaker 12: Nobody in the White House, including President Trump, wants to

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Speaker 3: Criminals, Ober and Assi. It is hot. The mercury has

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Speaker 13: Employee to make good decisions, avoid risky behaviors, keep our

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Speaker 3: Mothers with us. Shortly on that, and finally, an artist

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Speaker 14: These are some of the first played musical ideas that

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Speaker 15: Last five years. Hopefully I've gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 1: But that's not what the point of this exhibit is.

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Murray Oldozsie Correspondence with US High Mars.

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Speaker 6: This is how buddy, are you going? Very well to

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Speaker 6: talk to you again.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year to you. How hot is it with you?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Stu? Whoa, it's hot a west of where I am.

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Speaker 16: I'm sitting on the coast in Sydney, so we've got

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Speaker 6: You're sitting down. How do you like being called? At night?

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Speaker 16: Adelaide overnight, the capital of South Australia. The low it

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Speaker 16: No kidding, And you wouldn't want anyone in the bed

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Speaker 16: very strong fired danger. Got bushfires burning in Victoria, South

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Speaker 16: You've got a situation where you've got a great, big

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Speaker 16: It's making its way up through western New South Wales today,

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Speaker 16: through and get rid of all this heat. But I'll

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Speaker 16: Trade unprecedented ever. Yeah, and it's bluddy hot everywhere.

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Speaker 16: I mean this guy can't tie his shoelacer so he

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Speaker 16: you know, presenting a like a bomb threat to a

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Speaker 16: decent sized crowd. It was at an Australia an Australia

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Speaker 16: Day rally. It was actually a rally for Invasion Day

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Speaker 16: as Indigenous people call it, the Here and this clown's

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Speaker 16: turned up in northern Perth and thrown this device into

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Speaker 16: the crowd. Now police have had the guy in court,

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Speaker 16: as I say, and they are alleging that he built

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Speaker 16: this device hoping it would explode.

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Speaker 6: Basically, it was a.

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Speaker 16: Glass container and surrounded by a wrapping that contained ball

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Speaker 16: bearings and screws. The liquid inside still at this point

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Speaker 16: has not been identified according to police, but they're working

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Speaker 16: on that anyway. He's been charged with intent to do

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Speaker 16: harm to endanger life, health and safety, and with making

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Speaker 16: an explosive device under suspicious circumstances. He's also bet charge

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Speaker 16: of being a complete idiot and it will be caught

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Speaker 16: again a pretty short run.

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of idiots, what happened with the chap with

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Speaker 3: the car being driven by a dog.

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Speaker 16: Well, it happened on a beach in remote southwest Tasmania

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Speaker 16: on Saturday morning about half as nine on Saturday morning. Now,

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Speaker 16: whether this is true or not, old mate was in

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Speaker 16: the passenger seat and his Staffy was behind the wheel

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Speaker 16: as this vehicle, this yute moved slowly down the beach,

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Speaker 16: and you know he was dabbed in by members of

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Speaker 16: the public. Apparently he's told police who turned up.

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Speaker 6: Mate. I was so hammered. The dog was a better driver.

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Speaker 16: He's a lovely Staffy cross Anyway, this fellow has lost

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Speaker 16: his license for two years, surprise, surprise, been charged with

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Speaker 16: drink driving and the police are not buying that claim.

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Speaker 6: The dog was a much better driver. I've seen a

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Speaker 6: picture of old mate.

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Speaker 16: He's there sitting on a sofa with his dog on

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Speaker 16: his lap, a beer in one hand, giving the bird

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Speaker 16: with the other, a beanie and a great big smile.

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Speaker 16: So I suppose you've got to answer him and the

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Speaker 16: police failed to see the joke.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, it sounds like you need some actual friends. Hey,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that, Maus, appreciate it. Keep yourself cool.

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Speaker 3: It's Murray Old's Australia corresponding, coming up eighteen away from

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Speaker 3: five Ever do for see us so as we started

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Speaker 3: the program saying, the governments announced that it's considering doing this,

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Speaker 3: this independent inquiry or government inquiry, taking it away from

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Speaker 3: the Todunga City Council, here's the Prime Minister. Basically what's

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Speaker 3: happened is the Prime Minister has appointed Chris pink Is

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Speaker 3: an Associate Minister of Emergency Management and then tasked him

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Speaker 3: with having a look at.

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Speaker 15: That part of his new delegation.

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Speaker 17: I've also asked Chris pink to bring advice back to

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Speaker 17: Cabinet on the potential scope of a government inquiry into

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Speaker 17: the events at the Mount Monganery beachside holiday.

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Speaker 15: Park last Thursday.

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Speaker 17: There are many questions being asked, including whether there was

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Speaker 17: a missed opportunity to evacuate people sooner. Six families are

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Speaker 17: grieving the unimaginable loss of their loved one and they

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Speaker 17: deserve answers now.

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Speaker 3: The other in our today, of course, is that the

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Speaker 3: government set aside was at one point two million or

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Speaker 3: something like that for the mayor all fund. There are

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Speaker 3: questions about whether there will be more, because of course

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Speaker 3: the repairs to roads and so on be a lot

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Speaker 3: more are Nikola Willis, Finance Minister, assuring us there's plenty

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Speaker 3: of money still to come.

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Speaker 18: I want to make sure allocated funds for the rebuild

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Speaker 18: of roads following natural disasters. There is more than four

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Speaker 18: hundred million available for the rebuild of state highways. More

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Speaker 18: than three hundred million available for local roads that need

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Speaker 18: to be rebuilt following disasters, and so there are some

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Speaker 18: of those funds available to be allocated once NZTA have

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Speaker 18: done the assessment.

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Speaker 3: Barrsop is going to be honest on that with us

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Speaker 3: shortly and then also Mark Mitchell, Emergency Management Minister. After

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Speaker 3: five o'clock seventeen away from.

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Speaker 2: Five politics was centric credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: payments certainty right.

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Speaker 3: I'll get you through the New Zealand Post announcement shortly.

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Speaker 3: It's fourteen away from five and Barrisoper, senior Political correspondence

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Speaker 3: with us. Now, Hi, Barry, A good afternoon here the

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Speaker 3: welcome back, Welcome back, Barry, Happy new year to you.

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Speaker 3: How was your holiday?

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Speaker 7: It was great?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so pleased to hear that. You do look refreshed.

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Speaker 16: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so go on then Parliament, Yeah, sitting for the

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Speaker 3: first time.

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Speaker 11: Well yes, at the opening cell thos for the selection year.

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Speaker 11: We're flung around the debating chamber this afternoon, kicked off

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Speaker 11: of course by the Prime Minister Chris Luxon, followed by

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Speaker 11: the other Chris that wants his job Chris Hipkins from Labor.

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Speaker 11: Here is what you've got to look forward to the

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Speaker 11: selection year and and.

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Speaker 19: To the era of wasteful spending supporting lower inflation and

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Speaker 19: lower interest rates, much more visible policing, and a tougher

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Speaker 19: stance on laura and order, driving down violent crime, retail crime,

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Speaker 19: ram raids, and youth offending. Stronger achievement in our classrooms,

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Speaker 19: whether you're just starting school or needing an opportunity to

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Speaker 19: catch up.

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Speaker 15: And now, missus Speaker, as I say, we are building

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Speaker 15: the future.

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Speaker 19: We are growing the economy to create more jobs and

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Speaker 19: more opportunities for kiwi's with rising exports, investment and productivity.

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Speaker 19: We are spending tax payers money carefully so that we

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Speaker 19: don't burn our grandchildren with more debt.

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Speaker 20: Less the speaker. For a moment there, I thought I

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Speaker 20: had stepped out of the house and stepped.

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Speaker 15: Into the local laundromat.

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Speaker 20: Such was the level of spin and dirty laundry being

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Speaker 20: stuffed into the corner. Because, mister Speaker, when New Zealanders

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Speaker 20: were looking for vision, when they were looking for hope,

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Speaker 20: when they were looking for something to give them an

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Speaker 20: idea that the government knew anything about what it was doing,

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Speaker 20: they would have seen nothing from that contribution.

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Speaker 3: So do you have it here that I'm exciting.

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Speaker 11: That's what you've got to look forward to, and I do.

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Speaker 3: And there was a motion on the weather events.

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Speaker 10: Yes there was.

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Speaker 11: That's how Parliament started this afternoon on the very tragic

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Speaker 11: weather events over the past.

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Speaker 7: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 11: The Multi Parties co leader, though Rowery Wayite, couldn't help

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Speaker 11: himself putting a political s been on the terrible weather

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Speaker 11: over the past couple of weeks.

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Speaker 21: And every crisis it is Mili hafou Ewe and Malay

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Speaker 21: who respond first. When COVID hit this country, it was

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Speaker 21: a similar issue for ours more communities who were the

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Speaker 21: last to be seen, the last to receive any resource.

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Speaker 15: And it is the same in these weather events.

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Speaker 21: We are the first to get hit, we are the

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Speaker 21: first to respond, and we are the last to receive

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Speaker 21: any support.

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Speaker 7: Oh woe is them? I mean, he can't get away

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Speaker 7: from it, can he?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you need to talk Do you need to

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Speaker 3: talk about Donald Trump? Harry, because let's be honest, you've

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Speaker 3: had five weeks of just gun up sacking Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and has been a lot of gunnysack, a lot of

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Speaker 3: us too.

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Speaker 11: Much to talk about really this afternoon here.

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Speaker 3: But where would you like to start?

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Speaker 11: Well, to start on the peace train, actually, because the

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Speaker 11: man who changed his Defense Department to the Department of

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Speaker 11: War has now established stories establishing the police the Peace Board,

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Speaker 11: and a few leaders have signed up to it, the

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Speaker 11: likes of Vladimir Putin, for example, What.

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Speaker 3: Is your problem with Vladimir Putin being on the Peace Board?

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Speaker 11: What I think is they should adopt Cat Stevens peace

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Speaker 11: Train as their theme song. I mean, that would be

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Speaker 11: a good one for them. Imagine old Donald swiveling his

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Speaker 11: shoulders and pumping his fists to the peace train, he said,

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Speaker 11: and remember the verse that Now I've been crying lately,

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Speaker 11: thinking about the world as it is? Why must we

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Speaker 11: go on hating? Why can't we live in bliss? Well,

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Speaker 11: good point, Donald. I think he should reflect on that

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Speaker 11: as the peace train gets underway. But you know, I

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Speaker 11: don't how to hold out a great deal of hope

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Speaker 11: for that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so said it.

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Speaker 11: Well I could say a lot more, but you're limited

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Speaker 11: to time.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me. Listen, have you seen the RNZ red

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Speaker 3: research pole? You want me to run you through the numbers? Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is out this morning. Whinnie Pea's the big winner

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Speaker 3: on this Labour's in the lead on thirty five Nationals.

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Speaker 3: On thirty two. New Zealand First is nine point eight,

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Speaker 3: just shy of ten to the third biggest party Green's

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Speaker 3: nine point six, Act seven point six. Marty Party three

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Speaker 3: preferred Prime Minister Hepkins on twenty one, Luxanon nineteen, Winnie

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Speaker 3: p on thirteen.

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Speaker 11: Winnie Pee will be smiling all the way to the

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Speaker 11: ballot box if that poll.

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Speaker 3: Is not a surprise. If you've been following the trajectory

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Speaker 3: of the New Zealand First Party, right they have been

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Speaker 3: building for the last year or so. But what is

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Speaker 3: it about New Zealand First? The people are loving so

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Speaker 3: much better.

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Speaker 11: I think what they're liking is looking at for a start,

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Speaker 11: Winston Peters and he has been I don't think anybody

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Speaker 11: would argue that he has been a very good foreignerist

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Speaker 11: of New Zealand, following on from the Nayamuta and what

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Speaker 11: she presented on the international stage. So I think that's

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Speaker 11: number one.

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Speaker 7: I think you know all have come.

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Speaker 3: People don't vote for foreign affairs though it gives.

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Speaker 11: No, no, no, they don't, But it's the party the

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Speaker 11: reflection of the party led by Winston Peters. I know

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Speaker 11: a lot of people see him as a chameleon and

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Speaker 11: on a political to a political extent, maybe he is

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Speaker 11: a bit but there's some solid stuff behind, not only

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Speaker 11: Winston Peters, but you've got Shane Joe and the mining.

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Speaker 11: The mining stuff, I think a lot of people would

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Speaker 11: agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Is it fair to say what's going on here is

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Speaker 3: you've got a lot of people who will have voted right,

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Speaker 3: but the reasonably unhappy with the National Party being timid,

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Speaker 3: the Acts Party for having like a bunch of brats.

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Speaker 3: That leaves Winston Peters who still is he's in opposition

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Speaker 3: while in government? Right, but has he delivered anything?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 3: This thing he's been there two years, what's he done?

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Speaker 11: Why he's been so shrewd? As the latest is the

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Speaker 11: World Health Organization, he's been very shrewd and taking the

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Speaker 11: second of the election cycle off as Deputy Prime Minister.

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Speaker 11: So it allows them to go out and say stuff

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Speaker 11: that he probably normally wouldn't say if he's sitting alongside

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Speaker 11: Chris Luxon in the house every day. So you know

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Speaker 11: he's a shrewd operator. And I can tell you what

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Speaker 11: once he starts campaigning, he really does turn it on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it. Nice to

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Speaker 3: have you back. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent. Eight Away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast time.

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Speaker 22: Mister Cristpa Luxem is with us. Explain this to me,

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Speaker 22: Bremen RB. She says what she said about how is

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Speaker 22: she independent or not?

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Speaker 15: She is independent?

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Speaker 22: And why can't she say whatever she wants?

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Speaker 1: Well she can, and well why are you telling her off? No,

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Speaker 1: we're not.

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Speaker 23: We're just saying she should have sought advice. I think,

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Speaker 23: and certainly had a discussion with a minute.

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Speaker 22: Well she independent or not?

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Speaker 23: She is, and whatever the advice, she doesn't have to

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Speaker 23: take advice.

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Speaker 15: She can do whatever she likes.

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Speaker 23: No, I just think it would have been good to

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Speaker 23: what advice would she have got it? She should have

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Speaker 23: engaged the foreign affairs that she got to have talked

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Speaker 23: to the Minister of five.

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Speaker 22: And that's a bit smudgy to me. What she's either

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Speaker 22: independent or she not? She needs to talk to Nicolab.

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Speaker 22: But she she like count No, she's fully independent back

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Speaker 22: tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 3: By the way, you do realize joining Trump's peace board

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Speaker 3: costs a billion US dollars. So the Finance Minister Nicola

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Speaker 3: Willis was asked today whether there is a billion dollars

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Speaker 3: lying around for that.

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Speaker 18: Look, I haven't been advised on that matter, so when

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Speaker 18: I have, I'll be in here it answer your question.

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Speaker 17: Okay, I think we're going to stop guys because we

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Speaker 17: need to get to the apartment think so much.

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Speaker 3: Here's the advice for free No, there is not a

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Speaker 3: billion dollars floating around. We will not be joining the

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Speaker 3: peace board unless, of course, there is like a free

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Speaker 3: here's a freebie for New Zealand. Unless that happens all

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Speaker 3: like a much diminished like a massively discounted Trump deal.

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Speaker 24: Does it do it like a Netflix style free trial

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Speaker 24: where you can like to like an add free version.

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Speaker 24: Yeah for a few while. Yeah, maybe if we take

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Speaker 3: Maybe. Who knows, it's Donald Trump, He's the ultimate deal maker.

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Speaker 3: It's possible. Hither the Winston Peters thing is a generic

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Speaker 3: a general shift to the right and its charismatic leaders,

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Speaker 3: Peter Peter's Hanson Faraja's happening everywhere? Will that is a

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Speaker 3: fair point. Actually, this is the thing that always confounds

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Speaker 3: me about people who love Winston Peters, because I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: the man is incredibly charming, let's be honest about it,

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Speaker 3: and so funny, so funny. Haven't we all had a

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Speaker 3: giggle at Winston Peter's But stop and ask yourself. If

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Speaker 3: you're like, Oho, my vote for uncle Winston twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: ask yourself, what's he actually done? He's been in there

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Speaker 3: for two I was thinking about it today. I was like,

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Speaker 3: what's I thought? Oh, I just couldn't bother. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: be bothered finishing that thought because I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: a lot that's actually happened. It's been a lot of

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Speaker 3: the old blah blah, not so much of the doing. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: we have a lot to get through, most importantly Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: emergency Management Minister. Who's going to be straight after the news?

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Speaker 3: So stand by newstok z Eb.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust.

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Speaker 2: Truck to ask the questions, get the answers, find a

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Speaker 2: fag sack and give the analysis. Heither duplicy el and

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Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

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Speaker 2: mobile New Talk said, be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: The government's signaling it might take over the investigation into

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Speaker 3: the Mount mongonu We landslip tragedy at the moment holding

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Speaker 3: a city council is leading the investigation into its own actions.

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Speaker 3: The government's also set aside a couple of million dollars

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Speaker 3: for relief. Mark Mitchell is the Minister for Emergency Management

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Speaker 3: and Recovery. High Mitch Hi, either, why not just announce

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Speaker 3: that you're taking over the inquiry?

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Speaker 25: Well, we can't the council decide itself in terms of

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Speaker 25: what they're going to do around their own inquiry.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, just very clear.

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Speaker 25: And I took a recommendation to Cabinet today that I

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Speaker 25: felt and the Prime Minister felt exactly the same way

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Speaker 25: that we should do a government inquiry and that was

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Speaker 25: agreed to. So now we've got Chris Pink who's just

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Speaker 25: been appointed as my associate, who will go away and

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Speaker 25: with cut terms of reference on that.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're definitely doing one, are you, Yes, we're

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Speaker 3: moving here with an inquiry. Well, in that case, what's

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Speaker 3: the point in the council doing one. Should you not

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Speaker 3: just basically suck up their inquiry into yours?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I have spoken to the mayor.

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Speaker 25: I spoke with Major Drysdale, and of course he's got

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Speaker 25: to go away and consult with his counsel and chief executive,

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Speaker 25: and they can make their own decision on that. They

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Speaker 25: may decide to proceed still with their own inquiry, but

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Speaker 25: we just felt that it was very important to we.

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Speaker 3: Would they do that, that would be just an out

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Speaker 3: of waste of their money, wouldn't it be?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, I agree, but that's a better

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Speaker 10: question for them than for me.

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Speaker 25: They're just going to have to they obviously they will

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Speaker 25: have to work through their own process in terms of

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Speaker 25: what they want to do. But but Mahi knows that

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Speaker 25: that we're committed to doing a government inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what are you going to look into as part

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Speaker 3: of the inquiry? What are the terms of reference here?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 10: That's the terms.

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Speaker 25: Well, I mean, the most obvious thing is that the

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Speaker 25: families have got lots of questions that they want answered,

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Speaker 25: the community has got lots of questions that they want answered,

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Speaker 25: and I think the country.

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Speaker 3: So are you going to look at so much?

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Speaker 12: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to look at what happened that day,

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Speaker 3: the warnings the council got and whether they were response

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Speaker 3: responsive enough.

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Speaker 25: So that will all be contained within the terms of

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Speaker 25: reference for the inquiry when we've decided Chris has been

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Speaker 25: tasked by Cabinet to go away and work that up

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Speaker 25: at the moment and we'll bring it back to cabinet.

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Speaker 3: And presumably you'd look at what happened with the emergency

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Speaker 3: services receiving warnings as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I.

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Speaker 25: Think everything involved with the with what's happened there at

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Speaker 25: the tragery at the mount will obviously be covered, but

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Speaker 25: the actual but the definitive terms and exactly how far

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Speaker 25: it's going to be and how far that will reach as.

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Speaker 10: Yet to be determined.

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Speaker 3: And are you going to look into the trees removal?

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Speaker 10: Look, I don't know.

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Speaker 25: I haven't received any briefing or information on that, but

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Speaker 25: the but my expectations the inquiry would cover.

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Speaker 5: All of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because this seems like there is a thing here.

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Speaker 3: Have you looked at the photographs of the trees and

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Speaker 3: what has been removed in the last decade.

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Speaker 10: I haven't seen. No, I haven't seen photos of that.

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Speaker 10: And look, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 25: At the moment, I'm still really focused on getting out

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Speaker 25: people out of there. We've still got We've still got

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Speaker 25: you know, We've still got Kiwis buried in that mud,

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Speaker 25: and family's waiting and that is torturous for them as

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Speaker 25: every day goes by.

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Speaker 10: So the full focus for me is just doing all

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Speaker 10: that we can to make sure.

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Speaker 25: That our outstanding first responders are safe and that we

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Speaker 25: expedite and we get our people out of.

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm asking you about this is because there

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Speaker 3: seems to be a problem. The two most pronounced slips

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Speaker 3: that we've had in the last week are the slip

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Speaker 3: obviously at Mount Monganui, but also the slip at Tai Rua.

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Speaker 3: And in both cases, if you talk to the people

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Speaker 3: and if you haven't listened to what people are saying,

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Speaker 3: it's council actions potentially that lead to these slips. In

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Speaker 3: the case of Mount Monganui, it's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: trees that were removed, presumably Perhudakawa to prevent myrtle rust,

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Speaker 3: not replaced. In the case of Tyrue, it sounds like

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Speaker 3: what people think has happened. Here's the council's bulldozed to

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Speaker 3: track through to lays and pipes maybe twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: It'scores a series of slips. So there are questions to

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Speaker 3: answer about what council is doing to make our land unstable,

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Speaker 3: isn't that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: And look, councils are pretty proactive in terms of trying

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Speaker 25: to identify their risks and then you know, and mitigate

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Speaker 25: and come up with a plan with them. Just to

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Speaker 25: put some context around it, we had two hundred and

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Speaker 25: forty two hundred and forty four slips and those were

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Speaker 25: big ones that we know about. There were literally would

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Speaker 25: have been hundreds of much smaller ones in betyards and

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Speaker 25: things like that. Yeah, they're on a shue for us,

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Speaker 25: without a doubt. And look, those issues that you raise

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Speaker 25: are absolutely legitimate and they need to be looked at.

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Speaker 10: And certainly in the case of the mount where.

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Speaker 25: We've had a tragedy there where we've still got our

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Speaker 25: people Kiwis and of course sadly a young Swedish backpacker

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Speaker 25: you know, in that landslide.

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Speaker 10: We just want to get them out.

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Speaker 3: Now, the money, what's the money.

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Speaker 10: For the money?

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Speaker 25: Primarily what we announce today is what we have what's

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Speaker 25: called a Mirror Relief Fund. And so the previous nineteen

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Speaker 25: local States emergency that I've been to. Sometimes the mayors

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Speaker 25: will request some money from that meal relief fund and

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Speaker 25: I'll release that.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes they won't.

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Speaker 25: And quite simply what it is is just to meet

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Speaker 25: immediate needs of the community on the ground and get

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Speaker 25: some money quickly out to the council. So they've got

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Speaker 25: some discretionary spend there to be able to get some

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Speaker 25: immediate help to them. It's not designed for a medium

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Speaker 25: or long term part of the recovery. It's just immediate needs.

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Speaker 25: So we've put one point two million dollars in to

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Speaker 25: top that up. Normally I run that at about three

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Speaker 25: hundred thousand, and of course there's a million dollars there

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Speaker 25: too to support and help them, Mariah replenish because they

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Speaker 25: have they as in the case with this one, they

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Speaker 25: always have a big role where they step forward and

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Speaker 25: really support communities when they need it the wholy community

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Speaker 25: to So yeah, that so the one point too that's

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Speaker 25: gone to the mill REALLYEF funders community organizations. You know,

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Speaker 25: there's rural support groups that step up. The community organizations.

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Speaker 25: Actually on this one, heither have quite simply been outstanding

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Speaker 25: because we had five or six communities, small communities that

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Speaker 25: were literally completely cut off, and so that mell reallyef

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Speaker 25: fund is just a way of getting some money immediately

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Speaker 25: into groups like that.

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, Mitch, thank you very much to appreciate

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Speaker 3: your time. That's Mark Mitchell, the Minister for Emergency Management

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Speaker 3: and Recovery. Now on the investigation. Marhad Raisdale, who's the

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Speaker 3: mayor of Totaling, is just how the press conference in

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Speaker 3: the last forty five minutes. Hey, you still going ahead

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Speaker 3: with his council review?

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Speaker 26: Are We will work with government and obviously we had

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Speaker 26: announced an independent review. We are currently looking at that

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Speaker 26: at the moment as to how we deal with that,

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Speaker 26: but knowing how long some of these inquiries can take,

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Speaker 26: it is likely that we will will continue with our review.

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Speaker 3: Now. He was asked the obvious question, which is why

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Speaker 3: you're going ahead with your own review, because you're marking

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Speaker 3: your own homework, and this is what he had to say.

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Speaker 26: It's certainly another level of independence and that is very

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Speaker 26: much while we are supportive of it, we want to

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Speaker 26: know what happened in any lessons that can be learnt

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Speaker 26: for that, obviously being a government inquiry, we expect it

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Speaker 26: to be a much wider ranging inquiry, and as I said,

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Speaker 26: we're just working through the details, but we still think

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Speaker 26: there is merit in doing a review and bringing all

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Speaker 26: the facts and all the decisions that we made as

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Speaker 26: a counsel.

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Speaker 1: Eight Heather Duper cl eighteen past five.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to deal with the school uniforms in

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Speaker 3: about twenty minutes time. Right now, if you made yourself

901
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: a New Year's resolution to get fitter using one of

902
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: those online trends, you need to listen up because the

903
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 3: general advice coming in right now is that it's probably

904
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Speaker 3: worth giving it all a skip and doing it the

905
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Speaker 3: hard way. Alex Flint is the founder of Body Talking

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Speaker 3: with Us.

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Speaker 27: Hi Alex Hi, heallo healthy and happy New Year to you.

908
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: It's going to be healthy. It's going to be healthy, Alex.

909
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: It's not been healthy up to now.

910
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 6: Right.

911
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: I want to get your take on some of the

912
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Speaker 3: things that's going around at the moment. Right got the

913
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: seventy five hard challenge? Have you done it?

914
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Speaker 27: No? I haven't done it.

915
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Speaker 13: I've talked to many people that have attempted it, not

916
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Speaker 13: too many people that have done so well at it. Obviously,

917
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Speaker 13: it then incorporates a lot of hard stuff to work

918
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Speaker 13: out today for seventy five days straight, picking a diet,

919
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 13: drinking a gallon or so of water.

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Speaker 27: Basically, it's one that looks great on the surface, but

921
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Speaker 27: when it comes down to.

922
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Speaker 13: Us, can really easily set us up for failure, especially

923
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 13: around surrounding unhealthy relationships, with what it takes to get

924
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Speaker 13: in shape and find something system Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: It's unsustainable, isn't it? Doing all of that stuff? Two

926
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Speaker 3: workouts a day at forty five minutes as a hell

927
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Speaker 3: of a lot of work. What about this business with

928
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: a heart rate and zone two?

929
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Speaker 13: Yeah, so it's zone two is something which has definitely

930
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Speaker 13: come to the four as a way for us to

931
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Speaker 13: increase our what we call our base health, so things

932
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Speaker 13: like our blood pressure, our overall cardiovascular health. And it's

933
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Speaker 13: an easier form of exercise, cardiovascular exercise.

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Speaker 27: It's not that sort of hit going really hard out.

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Speaker 3: Would you do it?

936
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Speaker 8: Can? I?

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Speaker 3: Is this the one? Is this the one I should

938
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Speaker 3: be looking at?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: I absolutely agree that it's something that we should be doing.

941
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Speaker 13: About eighty percent of the exercise we do should be

942
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Speaker 13: at at a rate which we feel we can sustain.

943
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Speaker 27: It's enjoyable and it's something that we can back up

944
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Speaker 27: day by day.

945
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Speaker 13: A couple of hard exercise sessions a week, Yep, no problem,

946
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Speaker 13: But overdoing it usually just ends up in just being sore, tired, fatigued,

947
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Speaker 13: and reaching for the chocolate biscuits at night.

948
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Speaker 3: Okay, so we found one that isn't actually completely loony.

949
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Speaker 3: What do you have to do to get your heart

950
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Speaker 3: rate and zone two? Is it just a bit of

951
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: a walk?

952
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's probably what you'd say exercise at a rate

953
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Speaker 13: where you could hold a conversation but you couldn't sing

954
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Speaker 13: a song.

955
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Speaker 27: So it's vigorous.

956
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Speaker 13: It's definitely you've got a bit of huff and puff

957
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Speaker 13: in a sweat up, but it's not so hard that

958
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Speaker 13: you know you're absolutely done inside twenty minutes. You probably

959
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Speaker 13: keep it up for an hour.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a bit more than a walk then cold

961
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Speaker 3: plunge after working out.

962
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's definitely one of those i'd call majoring in

963
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 13: the miners, so we know there's a bit of research

964
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Speaker 13: when it comes to improving mood and maybe our immunity.

965
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Speaker 13: But if it's a thing that you're really hanging your

966
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Speaker 13: hat on for your health and wellness in twenty twenty six,

967
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Speaker 13: you're probably barking up the wrong tree.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 13: When it comes down to it, it's really a case

970
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 13: of regular exercise, good nutrition, and really just good company.

971
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Speaker 6: You know.

972
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Speaker 13: We put those things together and we get a healthy

973
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Speaker 13: mindset and a good long term outlook and a good

974
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Speaker 13: way to keep ourselves fit in the help I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I mean, it seems like the central lesson here

976
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Speaker 3: is you can't cut the corners. There's no easy there's

977
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Speaker 3: no silver bullet here or easy out. You just got

978
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Speaker 3: to do the hard work.

979
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Speaker 13: It comes down to work, a relative level of self

980
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 13: discipline and just finding everyday joy and what you're doing,

981
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Speaker 13: and maybe, you know, finding some people around you that

982
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Speaker 13: enjoy the same stuff, so you've got someone to sing

983
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Speaker 13: off and hang out with.

984
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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Alex, Thanks very much, Alex Flint, founder of

985
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Speaker 3: body Talk Personal Training. Helen. That's me, hi, Helen, starting

986
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Speaker 3: twenty six, Like we want to continue, don't we, Bret?

987
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: What is a gallon of water? Please? Now I think

988
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm correct me? If I'm wrong, But I think it

989
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: is just shy of four liters, is like three point

990
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: seven or something like that. It's a It's like my

991
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: son said to me this morning, Mumma, sometimes I think

992
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: if I drink too much water, I'll drown. I'll say

993
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: to him, you do seventy five hard you might Well,

994
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 3: it's a gallon of water, mate, five twenty two.

995
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: The name you trumped to get the answers you need,

996
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: it's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

997
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Speaker 2: like no one else news talk.

998
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Speaker 3: They'd be Heather Winston put an end to greyhound racing. Thanks.

999
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: That sounds of my question earlier. What's Winston actually done

1000
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: while he's done that? Now seems to me Vern Cottera

1001
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: and Joe Schmidt might be doing exactly the right thing

1002
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: by ruling themselves out of contention for the All Blacks

1003
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: coaching job, because that has got to be in a

1004
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: particularly high risk job at the moment, don't you think,

1005
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: not only because ENZR has mucked around with the last

1006
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Speaker 3: two people who were in the job. First they tried

1007
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: to fire Fozzy and then they actually did fire a raser.

1008
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: And actually, while we're on the subject of Raiser. I'm

1009
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Speaker 3: not gonna grumble about razor sacking now, you know, and

1010
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: I know I'm a Raiser fangirl. But from what I've

1011
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: read about his tenure, even before he was fired, it

1012
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: was clear that things were going a little bit wonky

1013
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: in there. I mean, most obviously because he wasn't actually

1014
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: doing the coaching Mozzy, who was leaving that to his assistant.

1015
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: He was more like some sort of a motivational guidance

1016
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: counselor for the players. And then you had the assistance leaving,

1017
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: and then you had the players unhappy, and then you

1018
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: had the results, which were actually worse when you watched

1019
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: the games than they actually were on paper. We will

1020
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: never know if Raiser would have turned it around and

1021
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: become a legend if he kept the job, but on

1022
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: the available evidence, it's hard to argue that he should

1023
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: have stayed.

1024
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 8: Ay.

1025
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: But after the sacking, who would want the job? Because,

1026
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: as I say, not just because the boss cannot be

1027
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: trusted to back you just ask Fozzy and Razor. But now,

1028
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: because you and I the public are primed to expect

1029
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: results immediately, we have just been told the next coach

1030
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: needs to hit the ground running because there is a

1031
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: World Cup to win. Now, if the coach doesn't perform immediately,

1032
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: the public is going to expect the same thing to

1033
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: happen to this coach as has happened to the last two,

1034
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: which is if you don't perform, you get sacked. So

1035
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: it seems to me Joe and Werner probably wise to

1036
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: steer clear here.

1037
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: The duplessy LA.

1038
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: Next captain apparently is Cody Taylor. I'm told this by

1039
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: the boys that the boys in the very exercise at

1040
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: the moment in the sports department about what's going on

1041
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: in the rugby wild as you can imagine, and they said,

1042
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: the next captain is Cody Taylor because he is the

1043
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: spiritual leader of the squad, which made me go and

1044
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: immediately google who Cody Taylor was, because he's one of

1045
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: those fly under the radar under you're looking at me, go, oh,

1046
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 3: you've seen him on the you have seen him. Yeah, quiet,

1047
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: quiet leader, one of those guys. Now listen, so this

1048
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: can tell you what happened to us. So we have

1049
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: a place in Tyrouo are not far from where that slippers,

1050
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: and we left last Monday because we were going to

1051
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: stay there. We left last Monday because we had a

1052
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: friend in Auckland thought I want to go see her,

1053
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: so we headed. Thank god we did, because if we

1054
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: hadn't heded out, we would have been stuck in that

1055
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: house until basically possibly yesterday, if not Sunday, so it

1056
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: might have been the entirety of the rest of the

1057
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: week because the slip came down, blocked the road for

1058
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: everybody who lives on the other side of the slip,

1059
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: which includes us, and then the water was off basically

1060
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: until yesterday, all Sunday or thereabouts. So anyway we count ourselves.

1061
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: The house is fine because as I said earlier, Aga

1062
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: panther's everywhere just holding that bank cup. But yeah, I

1063
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: feel terrible for the people who have, of course been

1064
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: caught on all of these landslips, and it's a real tragedy.

1065
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sure we're gonna have to wait for

1066
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: those investigations to get the answers to what actually happened.

1067
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Speaker 3: It's still with the school uniforms. Next Claire Amos or

1068
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Speaker 3: Albany High News Talk said Bee, I my brother.

1069
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

1070
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: your car on your drive home, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

1071
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand hand of power of satellite

1072
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Speaker 2: mobile news talk said, be.

1073
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: My head, thing my head.

1074
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: It talks to you about New Zealand Post. And maybe

1075
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: it was a basic headline with New Zealand Posts. You'll

1076
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: have heard it as shutting one hundred and forty of

1077
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: its retail stores in urban centers. There's a little bit

1078
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: more to get and I'll tell you about it shortly.

1079
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the union about it after

1080
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: six and the Huddles standing by to have a chat

1081
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 3: to us shortly. Right now, it's twenty five away from six.

1082
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Speaker 3: Now we've got the hardy annual of the school uniform

1083
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: cost coming up again. Increasingly the suggestion is not to

1084
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: scrap school uniforms all together, but to go with generic

1085
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: labelless uniforms. And one commentators popped up today saying we

1086
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: should go follow the lead of Puerto Rico. Basically they've

1087
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: done that with pieces that cost between six dollars and

1088
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: seventeen dollars a piece. Claire Amos is the Albany Senior

1089
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: High principle and with us high Claire, what do you

1090
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: make of this idea?

1091
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 28: I think it's an interesting idea. I think it's interesting

1092
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 28: that New Zealand has become so accepting of uniforms being

1093
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 28: the norm that we actually sometimes forget that around the world,

1094
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 28: there's many countries that don't have uniforms at all at school.

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Speaker 28: So it's a really interesting discussion. I agree that if

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Speaker 28: you are going to have a uniform, that we need

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Speaker 28: to be responsive to communities and you know, and think

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Speaker 28: about making it more cost effective if you are going

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Speaker 28: to have one.

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Speaker 3: Now, somebody text me through earlier. Barb text me and said, actually,

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Speaker 3: already in Papakudah and in Takanini, the primary schools have

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Speaker 3: their colors for uniform uniforms at the warehouse and it's

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Speaker 3: not embroidered, so you could just go and get it

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Speaker 3: for like five bucks.

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Speaker 28: A yeah, So it's becoming it's becoming an approach already

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Speaker 28: in many communities.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so what are they doing. Do they just

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Speaker 3: do they already have a uniform, scrap the uniform and

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Speaker 3: just go for basic, basic block colors from the warehouse?

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Speaker 28: Yes, yeah, And they're often pretty much the same as

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Speaker 28: what was their uniform. It's just no longer logoed. It's

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Speaker 28: a simple colot skirt or a skirt or pants and

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Speaker 28: a top. Some schools also have the option for track

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Speaker 28: pants if they want the students to be sort of

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Speaker 28: more comfortable and cut the cost.

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Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 3: So there are already.

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Speaker 28: Schools being responsive to this and offering different different ways in.

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Speaker 28: But it's also really important to know that actually, right

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Speaker 28: across the spectrum, it is important to schools to still

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Speaker 28: have a uniform. We actually don't have one as a school,

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Speaker 28: and that's because it aligns with our values and what

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Speaker 28: we focus on in terms of our young people. But

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Speaker 28: I also have worked in a wide range of schools

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Speaker 28: and know that it can be really important to a

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Speaker 28: Desole one community as it can be to a Desole

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Speaker 28: ten community in terms of repping the school and giving

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Speaker 28: them a sense of sort of togetherness.

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes the uniform sometimes is in and of

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Speaker 3: itself a way of saving money, isn't it, Because if

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Speaker 3: you just have to buy the kids like two blue

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Speaker 3: T shirts, two blue pairs of shorts or whatever, then

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Speaker 3: you don't have to buy the label gear to take

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Speaker 3: the score. Yeah, I think people do argue that.

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Speaker 28: I mean there is a sense of I think there

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Speaker 28: is a bit of a split out there in the

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Speaker 28: community where there are a few uniform companies that are

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Speaker 28: a bit of a rought that they're really expensive blazers,

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Speaker 28: really expensive shirts with a whole lot of detailing. And

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Speaker 28: I agree with the op ed in that sense that

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Speaker 28: there needs to be some options and some range so

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Speaker 28: it isn't a pain point. We also need to stop

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Speaker 28: kidding ourselves. A lot of people say that uniform is

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Speaker 28: really important because it takes away status in schools and

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Speaker 28: it's a real leveler. I have been in schools where

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Speaker 28: the uniform it's really clear about the kids who are

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Speaker 28: struggling to get by and the kids that have the

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Speaker 28: money to have the different versions. So I think we've

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Speaker 28: got to be really careful to load too much onto

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Speaker 28: uniforms in terms of it being an economic leveler, in

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Speaker 28: terms of it being a proxy for school spirit. I mean,

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Speaker 28: we're a school where Lily, we're a senior school, and

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Speaker 28: we pride ourselves on readying our young people for the

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Speaker 28: world of work in university, where they have to learn

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Speaker 28: about code switching and they have to learn about what

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Speaker 28: appropriate dress looks like in different situations. And there can

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Speaker 28: also be value in our young people not wearing uniform.

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Speaker 28: I'd love us to have more of a conversation around

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Speaker 28: that than rather just saying, actually the only option is uniform,

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Speaker 28: let's look at cheap versions, or let's look at really

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Speaker 28: high end versions. Maybe it's time to step back, Like

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Speaker 28: Finland has banned uniforms because they actually see them as damaging.

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Speaker 28: They want young people to be able to express themselves.

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Speaker 28: So I sometimes think we need to take top stock

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Speaker 28: step back and say, actually, are we just valuing uniforms

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Speaker 28: because it's the way we've always done it. And if

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Speaker 28: we do value it and our community wants it, we've

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Speaker 28: got to make sure that we're responsive to what they

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Speaker 28: can afford and what is actually realistic, and that we're

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Speaker 28: not just going to the shiniest uniform provider that you

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Speaker 28: know has a two hundred three hundred dollars blazer, which

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Speaker 28: is absolutely crippling for families.

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Speaker 3: Clear, it's good to talk to you, Thanks for your perspective.

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Speaker 3: That's Claiomos Albany, Senior High Principles twenty one away from six.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

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Speaker 2: truly global brand huddle.

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Speaker 3: That's this evening. We have David Farrow, Kiwi Blog and

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Speaker 3: Curier obviously, and then Rob Campbell, aut chancellor, former Health

1179
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Speaker 3: New Zealand. Yeah, hello are you too?

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Speaker 15: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Happy new Year?

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Speaker 21: All right?

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon on the old uniforms, David? Because

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Speaker 3: you must be about that that stage in your parenthood

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Speaker 3: where you're buying them.

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Speaker 29: Now we have bought because of the primary school we

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Speaker 29: moved to last year has them and lot they do

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Speaker 29: them to school quite well because they do have uniform requirements,

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Speaker 29: but only the suit has to be school logoed, so

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Speaker 29: the black pence or black shorts, ymbui from the warehouse etc.

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Speaker 29: So they've got fairly moderate policy.

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Speaker 8: I think it's good.

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Speaker 29: I will just say that that articles compellain no one

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Speaker 29: should have to pay two thousand bucks on school uniform.

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Speaker 29: I would just say if parents have more choice about

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Speaker 29: what schools they would go to, that might put some

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Speaker 29: pressure on schools not to make into a money more thing.

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Speaker 29: If you've got two good schools nearby and one toss

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Speaker 29: three hundred bucks uniform and one thousand, that would actually

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Speaker 29: be a factor. But most people can't choose what school

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Speaker 29: they get.

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Speaker 3: To go to, right, what do you make them rob?

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Speaker 3: You make of banning it like Finland?

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Speaker 8: Well, no one's ever taken storial advice off me hither,

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Speaker 8: and I'm pretty much a jeans and T shirt a uniformal.

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Speaker 3: I've seen your bomber jacket as well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I do.

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Speaker 8: I do tend to wear quite a lot of aut

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Speaker 8: branded gear, but that's by way of choice, and I

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Speaker 8: certainly wouldn't insist that our students do that. So look,

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty much to be free wheeling on this. I

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Speaker 8: frankly be part of banning the gang patches. Maybe we

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Speaker 8: should allow them Ungle Mom to wear what they want

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Speaker 8: to and allo our kids at school to wear what

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Speaker 8: they want to too. Let's broaden it all out of it.

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Speaker 29: Loads the kids don't wear gang patches.

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Speaker 8: But well, I don't know, I don't know they the

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Speaker 8: plenty of schools, David, and you would know this. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure there'd be plenty of schools around the country where

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Speaker 8: the color that you wore as a school student would

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Speaker 8: make a big difference to how you were received in

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Speaker 8: the playground.

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Speaker 29: Want beaten up in some areas if you wear the

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Speaker 29: wrong color.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I think you know some of those, some

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Speaker 8: of those big private schools, it would.

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Speaker 15: Be just far.

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Speaker 27: Rob.

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Speaker 3: You've just convinced me, just for the sake of the

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Speaker 3: children not getting beaten up because they're hanging a blue

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Speaker 3: flag out their their backside. I think for that reason

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Speaker 3: we'll keep them in the uniforms. Actually, now, David, the

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Speaker 3: big news today obviously is that the government is clearly

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Speaker 3: signaling it wants to take over this investigation into the

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Speaker 3: landslip in Mount Monganui. Do you see any merit in

1236
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Speaker 3: totaling a city council continuing with their own No.

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Speaker 1: Zero.

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Speaker 29: What they should do is cooperate with the government into

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00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 29: the terms of reference and hopefully you'd have the mayor

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Speaker 29: and the PM and the Minister jointly decide on who

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Speaker 29: gets appointed, whether it's one or two people. But absolutely

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 29: it should be a joint approach rather than YEA two

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 29: Supreme inquiries would digna.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 8: What do you think, Yeah, well, you know, I don't

1247
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Speaker 8: want to be just contrarian for the sake of it,

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Speaker 8: but I think there are two sets of issues here,

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Speaker 8: and both of them are very serious. The council should

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Speaker 8: run an inquiry into what happened within its area and

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Speaker 8: its own organization. In terms of this specific question, there's

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Speaker 8: a whole lot of questions there that I think they

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Speaker 8: will naturally wander of you that are not necessarily universal

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Speaker 8: in the sense of being across the nation as a whole.

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Speaker 8: There's an investigation to be done about those aspects and

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Speaker 8: what could the council and its organizations do, which I

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Speaker 8: would think they properly want to do as a matter

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Speaker 8: of governance. Then there's a much bigger set of issues

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Speaker 8: that the government has to review, and I think they're

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Speaker 8: probably better separated because then the focus of one doesn't

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Speaker 8: carry over into the other. The folks of the national

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Speaker 8: one has to be on what are our national standards

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Speaker 8: about this sort of thing and what sort of lead

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Speaker 8: should we be giving to councils in general about these issues,

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Speaker 8: and issues such as what sort of funding should we

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Speaker 8: have without becoming to party political about it, what sort

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Speaker 8: of funding should be available for these sorts of things,

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Speaker 8: what is the role of things like climate change in

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Speaker 8: these things, and how are we responding to that. I'd

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Speaker 8: like to see that quite broad ranging investigation done by

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Speaker 8: the central government because those are the things that they

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Speaker 8: should be focusing on. So two different things, and I

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Speaker 8: think two to inquires as a better idea.

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Speaker 3: Rob I still want to see if there is a

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00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: deficiency by the council, if the council has done something

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Speaker 3: to make this worse, if the council has failed to respond,

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Speaker 3: if one one one has failed to respond. Whatever. I

1278
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: still want to see someone say and this is where

1279
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: a mistake was made? Would you like to see that?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: And when I said a council should do the review,

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure that the council should do that. There

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Speaker 8: should be a council specific one, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: It may be that it's better to have an external

1285
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Speaker 8: investigation of those sorts of issues and not muddy it

1286
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 8: with the much bigger national issues, which are very real

1287
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Speaker 8: as well. And it's two different sorts of people that

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Speaker 8: really should do that with you, in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff. Listen, David. I'm coming to you

1290
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Speaker 3: next on why everyone's loving Winston, So get your answer ready.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back to that quarter two.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, a name

1293
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: you can trust locally and globally.

1294
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Speaker 3: Okay, you're back with the Huddle, David Pharaoh, Rob Campbell, right, David, So,

1295
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Speaker 3: in the last couple of polls that we've had, one.

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Speaker 3: Today Winston Peters is on the up. What's going on?

1297
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Speaker 3: Why do people love them?

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Speaker 9: Two?

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Speaker 29: Fact, there's one lock. Globally, populist parties are doing very well.

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Speaker 29: In fact, in Australia pulling Hanson's now ahead of the coalition,

1301
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Speaker 29: UK reforms ahead of both of the major party trumps

1302
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Speaker 29: are popular coming to Winston, particularly though he's doing smart

1303
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Speaker 29: minor party politics. The major parties have to focus on

1304
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 29: the economy, jobs, I think Rob would agree, the health system, education,

1305
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Speaker 29: but the minor parties can pack up all the other issues.

1306
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 29: And Winston's the master at being out within thirty seconds

1307
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Speaker 29: of an issue on Twitter. Yeah, coming out. Of course,

1308
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Speaker 29: we're not going to pull out of the world's health organization.

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Speaker 29: But there's two percent of New Zealand who think we should,

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Speaker 29: so that appeals to them. So partly, Winston's playing a

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Speaker 29: smart game, for he's not trying to get to forty percent,

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Speaker 29: He's trying to get to fifteen percent, and he's getting

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Speaker 29: quite close to it.

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Speaker 3: David, why is it that around the world all of

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Speaker 3: these guys on the right that the populous leaders are

1316
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: doing so well? What's going on?

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Speaker 29: Because who many governments have failed to deliver I actually

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Speaker 29: think the biggest challenge both labor and national have in

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Speaker 29: New Zealand is to keep faith that government can deliver

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Speaker 29: on their promises. But in Europe, especially, too often people

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 29: have seen it doesn't matter who you vote for, the

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Speaker 29: things we're worried about don't get better. And you know,

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Speaker 29: uncontrolled immigration as opposed controlled immigration has been a major

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Speaker 29: part there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Rob, what are your thoughts on it? Because

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Speaker 3: it seems to me the first thing that struck me

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Speaker 3: when I saw this as well, he's been in government

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Speaker 3: for two years, what's he actually done.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've got a clear bit of a bias. I've

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Speaker 8: got a conflict of interest. I just came back on

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Speaker 8: the way Hicky Fairy using Winston's gold card, and I

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Speaker 8: appreciate it very much. I've got to be a bit

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 8: care But you know, when I think about Winston, and

1334
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 8: this probably no one's ever compared Winston Peters with Vladimir Lenin,

1335
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 8: but that is what I think of when I think

1336
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 8: of Winston as a kind of a king made When

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 8: just before the Revolution len and Russia was asked why

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Speaker 8: he supported the Social Democrats, he said, we support them

1339
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Speaker 8: like the rope supports the hanging man. And that is

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Speaker 8: pretty much how Winston approaches his partners in government. He

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Speaker 8: supports them like a rope supporting the hanging man. He's

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Speaker 8: a very dangerous person to have on your side. I

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Speaker 8: actually prefer Winston on the other side where you can

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Speaker 8: see him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point to make, now, David, we

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Speaker 3: started the show talking about this homeward bound survey that

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Speaker 3: shows twenty five percent of young boys and when I

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Speaker 3: say young is really more young men fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: four years old. Twenty five percent of them don't even

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Speaker 3: have a single friend. What is going on with you guys?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, well look, yeah, I deform a vice preends of

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Speaker 29: Internet New Zealand and it's been a massive force for good,

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 29: but also as has been a force where people have

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 29: forgotten how to do things. That makes me sound like

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 29: an old man in and you know, our childhoods were

1356
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 29: running up and down the street with friends, playground. Our

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 29: parents can even phone us on cell phones. But now

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 29: people go home, they message people, and I think there

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Speaker 29: are the generation who have lost that face to face ability.

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Speaker 29: And yeah, it's the father of two boys. I worry

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01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 29: about this, Iposh hard to make sure they've got play

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Speaker 29: dates and face to face friendships.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would worry like health. I would worry like health.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was true, And I don't want to

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 8: get into David about polls, but I would really wonder

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Speaker 8: about the nature of the question there. It's not my

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Speaker 8: observation of young people, particularly young men, there are issues

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Speaker 8: about their social relationships, without doubt, but whether they actually

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01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 8: have close friends or not to a greater extent than

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Speaker 8: people to some other stage, I would question that a

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Speaker 8: little bit. The forms, the ways, the way people relation

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Speaker 8: relate to one another. When the young is certainly quite different,

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 8: then I do worry about confidence and the mental health.

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 8: It's particularly young men, but young young people generally. But

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Speaker 8: I'd just be a bit careful about picking up on

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01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 8: these specific aspects of this, which, yeah, I'm just not

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Speaker 8: sure you're completely right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, listen, it's been wonderful to have you back

1379
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Speaker 3: on the show. Thank you very much for your Time's

1380
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: David Farrer and Rob campbeller huddle this evening eight away

1381
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Speaker 3: from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper See Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Heather Real Gallon Chat It is only in the USA

1385
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: gallon is three point seven liters. Everybody else, including New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: a gallon is four point five to four liters per

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Speaker 3: gallon as a hell of a lot of water if

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Speaker 3: you're going to do the hard seventy five or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Just to tip, I don't think you need that much water.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you need to. It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 3: a gallon is to you. I don't think you need

1392
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: to drink a gallon. But look, you do you if

1393
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Speaker 3: that's what you're into. So New Zealand Post, So New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Posts announced today, as I was telling you earlier,

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Speaker 3: they're going to shut one hundred and forty of their

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Speaker 3: retail stores.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't care, you know, you know how I feel

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Speaker 3: about this. I'm like New Zealand Poster is dying, a

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: dead Post is dying and deaf anyway, so career all

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01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: the way. So whatever they need to do to make

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Speaker 3: it work, whatever they are, but they do not. I

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01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: don't know why. And I've said this to the guy

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 3: from New Zealand Post, I said, why are you feeling

1405
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: so weird about making this? This is clearly the trajectory

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Speaker 3: you're on.

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Speaker 1: Just own it.

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Speaker 3: Man lean into it. But they're all shy and weird

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Speaker 3: about it. So we called them today we try to

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Speaker 3: get them on and the guys, the guys in the

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Speaker 3: production team. The producer said on the old mate who's

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Speaker 3: on the media team, she's they're not coming on the

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Speaker 3: show heither because their phones are off. I thought, no,

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Speaker 3: they can't be true. They make an announcement like this

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Speaker 3: and turn their phones off. Yes, it's true because I tried.

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: I tried calling straight to the voicemail. Hi, you h

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: may I'm not a fa lapau anyway. You actually have

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: to tax the bay. So I text her. She hasn't

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: recalled me back. They eventually got back to us on

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: the email and they said to us, no, they're not

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: going to be on the show anyway. I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: This is my word of advice to New Zealand Post.

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: Just own it right. This is everybody can see what's happening.

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: Don't be shy anyway. As a result, John from the

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: Union's going to come on. And you know if you're

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: not on, if you're not on the show, you're on

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01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 3: the menu, aren't you. So the Union guy is gonna

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01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: have a crack at New Zealand post guarantee. That's going

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: to happen very quickly, Harry Styles. The pre sale has happened.

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Speaker 3: This is for the Sydney concert. Michael from the production team,

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Speaker 3: got two tickets, a very reasonably priced I will say,

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Speaker 3: actually for I think Harry Stiles. Yes, five five, you

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Speaker 3: boot five tickets, Harry Styles, I believe is a cultural moment.

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: Do not sneer at me right now. Cultural moment, Harry Styles.

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01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 3: Your kids are going to grow up and go wow

1436
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: that Harry Styles. He was a time, wasn't he. And

1437
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: if you're not part of it? What can I say?

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: It's like being It's like Poe Poeing Fleetwood Mac in

1439
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: the seventies. Anyway, So he got this is Michael. Michael

1440
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: got five tickets front ga left, so he's going to

1441
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 3: be right up there. He'll be looking right up Harry

1442
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Speaker 3: Styles's nose. He holes. And he paid three hundred dollars

1443
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 3: a ticket, which I think for a front standing ticket

1444
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: is actually quite a good price. You could buy tickets

1445
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: for sixty dollars if you wanted to sit in the

1446
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: seats where you can't see anything but you could still

1447
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Speaker 3: hear it. Anyway. The reason I'm telling you this is

1448
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: because while I was away it happened again, didn't it.

1449
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Speaker 3: Yet another person, amazing artist decided to buy past New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: So we've had Taita, We've had Lady Gigar, We've had

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Speaker 3: Oasis and now Harry. They're all going to Australia and

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: they're not coming here. So this is life. This is

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Speaker 3: life for us. We're just going to have to concert clubs.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna have to go to Sydney, aren't we. We're

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Speaker 3: just gonna have to get our tickets, aren't we.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, John from New Zealand Posts Union is gonna have

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Speaker 3: a crack at New Zealand Post. Next, I suppose new.

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Speaker 3: Up in the next hour, we're going to talk adaptation,

1463
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: as in when will we stop putting roads and buildings

1464
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: and places at risk of bad weather? Jamie McKay with

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01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: his thoughts on the India FTA and and of Brady

1466
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: on all the nutty stuff that's been going on in

1467
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: the UK at seven past six, so we have yet

1468
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Speaker 3: another blow in the slow demise of the postal service.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Post says more than one hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: of its stores are closing as part of changes to

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Speaker 3: its urban network. The city's most affected are Auckland and

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Speaker 3: christ Church. John Maynard is an organizer for the Postal Workers'

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Speaker 3: Union and with US. Hi John, Now, John, just give

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Speaker 3: me an understanding of what's going on here. Is New

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01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: Zealand Post closing those those little post shops where it's

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Speaker 3: like a little post shopping run inside a dairy. Is

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Speaker 3: that what's closing?

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Speaker 30: Just they closing one hundred and forty two of those

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Speaker 30: ones which they've franchised out and now they're going to

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Speaker 30: close them down.

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Speaker 3: That's right, okay. And then they're keeping the kind the

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Speaker 3: bigger ones like where you go in and it's a

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Speaker 3: proper postal place.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 30: The interesting thing is there's some good news about this.

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Speaker 30: The hubs that they're going to set up are going

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Speaker 30: to have good service and services. But I noticed that

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Speaker 30: New Zealand Posts won't come out and publicly talk to

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Speaker 30: the news media about this because it's one thing for

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Speaker 30: the company to adjust to changing mail volumes and people's

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Speaker 30: communication methods. But it's quite another to consistently act in

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Speaker 30: a manner which undermines people's confidence in the postal service.

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Speaker 30: And here's a chance for them to come up and say, well,

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 30: actually there's some good news here, but they're hiding behind

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 30: the parapets. They won't come out, don't talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm going to get to I'm going to

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Speaker 3: get to that with you because that is quite weird.

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Speaker 3: But explain to me why they're shutting down these little franchises,

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Speaker 3: because I can't imagine that they cost that much to run.

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Speaker 3: So what's the point.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, well, it's going to hit their franchisers because you know,

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Speaker 30: I've got people running chemis shops and bookshops and libraries

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Speaker 30: and things, and that's going to reduce the foot track

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Speaker 30: traffic going through there. But they're certainly trying to consolidate.

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Speaker 30: The government's leaning on them to cut costs and to

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Speaker 30: return surplus cash, extra cash back to the government. So

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Speaker 30: how much money though, no doubt will be saving money

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Speaker 30: from this, or they wouldn't be doing it, and it's

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Speaker 30: going to reduce the services. Of course, the people and

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 30: further reduce people's access to this public service.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there are some ninety percent of people will

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Speaker 3: still live within four k's of a postal place, which

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01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 3: I suppose is not that bad. But there are some

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Speaker 3: people who are going to live about thirteen k's away,

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Speaker 3: which is a hell of a long way to drive

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Speaker 3: a post a letter. Where do you know where these

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Speaker 3: people are?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Which are the communities?

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Speaker 8: I tell you what.

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Speaker 30: I spoke to a person in a post shop franchise

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Speaker 30: who had to look on the website to find out

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 30: did she still have a job. So even people in

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 30: these franchises weren't aware of what was going to happen

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01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 30: to them. Four kilometers away may not seem very far.

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 30: I mean, you got a walk. I'm familiar with a

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 30: shop that is in the middle of an area where

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 30: there's a large residential area. People walk there with their

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01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 30: parcels for their mail, and there are a couple of

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 30: rest homes close by retirement villages. Now those people are

1531
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 30: going to have to drive into the city because they

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 30: could walk down to the little place on the main road.

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 30: Now they're going to drive into the city in a car.

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Speaker 30: And the other problem they've got is where to find parking,

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Speaker 30: because people have told me some of the hubs that

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 30: the company are setting up are not very good for

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 30: trying to get parking.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what is going explain to me what's going

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: on here that New Zealand Post makes an announcement then

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: turns its phones off.

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01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 30: Do they always do this if there's bad yep. If

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 30: there's bad news like run out of Christmas stamps to

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01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 30: Christmas in the row, they won't talk about it. Promote

1544
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 30: postal voting, they won't talk about it. But if there's

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 30: an opportunity to say, oh we're going to lay off

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 30: all of our postings, oh, they'll talk about it from

1547
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 30: the rooftops. Oh we're going to go to three day delivery,

1548
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 30: we'll tell everybody, oh we're going to lay off one

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 30: hundred and forty two post shops. But they should be

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 30: out there now promoting what is good about New Zoom Post.

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01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 30: And it's very rarely that they do it. And here

1552
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 30: was a chance today to come out and say, well,

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01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 30: there will be these hubs and these are the good

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 30: services you're going to get there. It's taking me from

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 30: the union to tell people that there is something good

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 30: about this. Why isn't you on post.

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: John, It's good to talk to you. Thank you very much,

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01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: John Maynard, Postal Workers' union organizer at eleven past six.

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Together do for ce Ellen.

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: So apparently Donald Trump has stopped dyeing his hair. Now

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01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: this is in an article that's been published by New

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: York Magazine. But it says that he's dropped the yellow

1563
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: dye and he's now letting it go white. And also

1564
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: apparently he reckons he's going to die within the next

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: ten years. It's being reported that in January last year,

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, while the televisions at Mara Lago showed

1567
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: former President Jimmy Carter lying in state at the US Capitol,

1568
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 3: Donald Trump reportedly startled people in the room by saying,

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: you know, within ten years, that will be me. Now,

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: of course, as you can imagine, because this has now

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 3: come out in New York magazine, the Press Secretary has

1572
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: been asked about old Caroline. Caroline says she doesn't recall

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01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: him making the comment, which is no surprise at all.

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: But while we're on that subject, I did have I

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01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: have the television news on while while we're in studio,

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: and Chloe was just on before and on the subject

1577
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: of hair dye, I do. I just worry about Chloe

1578
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 3: because Chloe's get in a lot of long grays. She's

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: getting a lot of long She's got a thick head

1580
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: of hair, and she's letting it go gray. Now. The

1581
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: reason I'm drawing this to your attention is because when

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: Chloe became the leader of the Greens, I had high

1583
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: hopes because some of them were quite good looking, you know,

1584
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: like she had a tidy little haircutch, good looking young lady.

1585
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: Then you had what's her face with the five fingered thief,

1586
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: what was her name, Golly Goleris. Goleris was a bit

1587
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: of a babe as well, nice manicured, well put together Madema.

1588
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: You know, she was looking good as well. But now

1589
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: Chloe has gone the way of the old Greens, hasn't she?

1590
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: Like the old guard of Greens, where the ladies would

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 3: just kind of let their hair go a bit nutso

1592
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: and that'd start to look a little witchy pooh, And

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: I feel like that. I know men cannot say this,

1594
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: but I'm not a man. I'm a woman on the radio,

1595
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: and I'm saying somebody close to Chloe needs to get

1596
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 3: and get in her face and say, Chloe, it's not

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01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 3: that you are not the Greens of the nineteen nineties.

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: You are the Greens of the twenties. Dye your hair, girl,

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 3: cut it, make yourself look tidy and election's coming up please.

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Speaker 3: Six thirteen.

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: It's the Heather Dupercy Allan Drive Full Show podcast on

1602
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: my Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbi.

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 3: Heather, our business wanted to use the New Zealand posts,

1604
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: but we were told our items are dangerous goods fiberglass, tubing,

1605
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: et cetera. As a result, they would only post it

1606
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 3: nationally and internationally. If we spend three hundred and fifty

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: thousand dollars per annum, it's not possible for our small business.

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 9: Lord.

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01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 3: Sixteen past six.

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01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: The Rural Report on Heather Dupericy.

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01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: Alan Drive is Jamie mckaye, host of the Country.

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01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 9: Hi Jamie, Hello Heather, and welcome back.

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01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, Happy New Year to you, and thank you

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: for the beer. Is the beers arrived obviously and it

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: is a It's a delicious brew.

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01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: Isn't it.

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well once a year we do a Christmas

1619
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 9: co lab with the wonderful people at Emerson's here in

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 9: Denisean and the bear is always a pilsner, one of

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 9: my favorite.

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 3: Do you change the recipe every year or is it

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: the same?

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 9: Well, I don't really have much to do with it,

1625
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 9: even though it kind of bears my name. I know

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 9: the boys that the tea the teams had Emerson's the

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01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 9: brewer is. The brewers down there have a bit of

1628
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 9: a play round, so they.

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 6: Just mix it up.

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 12: Some years.

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 9: I like it better than other years, and I think

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 9: this one's a really good brew. But you know, like

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 9: a lot of these craft bear outfits, they do have

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01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 9: some fun with their brewis, and they certainly had Emerson's

1635
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 9: have some fun with the names of the of their bears.

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 9: They had used to have a bear called Gary, named

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 9: after an old bloke who would come in on his

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 9: superannuation day and buy a whole lot of beer and

1639
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 9: come back again two weeks time, So they called a

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 9: bear after Gary.

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: It's nice.

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 9: I like that.

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 5: Hey.

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: Now, since we last chatted, we've obviously signed and announced

1645
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 3: the FTA with India. What's your thoughts on that?

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01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 9: Well, talking about super innuitants, I know one who's not

1647
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 9: very happy about this at all, And you were talking

1648
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 9: to him, to him or about him with Barry a

1649
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 9: wee bit earlier in the show, and so when he's

1650
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 9: got he thinks we gave Gibbs. We give too much

1651
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 9: to India, especially on immigration, does not get a good

1652
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 9: enough return for New Zealand, especially dairy. While a trade

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 9: expert and he's one of our top trade guys, Stephen

1654
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 9: Jacoby has rubbished that. He said New Zealand had a window.

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 9: If we didn't take it, the next opportunity could have

1656
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 9: been years away and there was no guarantee of a

1657
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 9: better deal. He reckons Winston's just dog whistling. I'd agree

1658
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 9: with him on that one, and he thinks that Winston

1659
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 9: could have Winston says he could have negotiated something better.

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 9: Stephen Jacoby says, somehow I doubt it now. Look, Heather,

1661
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 9: obviously this has been an advantageous, very advantageous agreement to

1662
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 9: us for sectors like sheep meat. They've got a really

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 9: good game Kiwi fruits and apples. Obviously dairy wasn't flashed.

1664
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 9: But you've got to remember India's got the most cattle

1665
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 9: or bovines in the world. They're not really that interested

1666
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 9: in dairy at this stage, but because of their burgeoning population,

1667
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 9: they're still dairy deficient, so at some stage down the

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 9: track they're going to be looking for suppliers and hopefully

1669
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 9: we're in the one one in the box seat here

1670
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 9: to be able to do that. Jacoby went on to

1671
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 9: say that FTAs must be seen in the context of

1672
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 9: a very disruptive international environment thanks to mister Trump, and

1673
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 9: it was simply not possible to get the sort of

1674
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 9: gains that we had earlier, for example our China deal

1675
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 9: or even our CP TPP deal. I hope I didn't

1676
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 9: get too many peace in there. So all in all,

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 9: Todd mcclay's done a blooming good job. Instance not happy.

1678
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 9: I just hope bipartisan politics prevails. Heather and labor back,

1679
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 9: and I was talking to damian O kind of to day,

1680
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 9: their trade guy, and I got the impression talking to

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 9: him that they will good on him if they do.

1682
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's interesting you raise that because Chippy was

1683
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 3: sounding a bit like he's got a few issues with it.

1684
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: So is it a case of them just wanting to

1685
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 3: iron out a few things, or they mean, because the

1686
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 3: thing is done right, you've got to accept it the

1687
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: way it is. So what's labor going to do?

1688
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 27: Yeah?

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 6: I don't think.

1690
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 9: I don't think Chippy can change anything. And you know,

1691
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 9: like he he might be risk because I think this

1692
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 9: is one of those issues that we need kind of

1693
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 9: across the board support on. Obviously, I don't think the

1694
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 9: green sorts of party Marie will do it, but I

1695
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 9: mean labor are largely sensible. I don't see why they

1696
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 9: wouldn't agree with this. It's in the best interests of

1697
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 9: New Zealand.

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 6: Think.

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 9: Look, India is the most populous nation on Earth. It's

1700
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 9: now the fourth biggest economy. Very shortly it will overtake

1701
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 9: Germany as the third biggest economy. We've got to be

1702
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 9: in their boots and all.

1703
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: Yep here, Yeah, thank you very much for that. Jamie

1704
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: is always Jammy Mchaie, host of the country. Heither, don't

1705
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 3: hate me for this is bloody mus again, don't hate

1706
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 3: me for this, but I've seen you on the Instagram

1707
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: talking on the radio and I would say, don't throw

1708
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: stones in a glasshouse as in like this is my

1709
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: comments re Chloe, which I will, I will, I will come.

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01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 3: I will counter that by saying two things. Number One,

1711
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: at least I pluck out my grays. So I am

1712
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: making an effit and number two, I realize I'm not

1713
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: making much of an effort because I have a mirror.

1714
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: I can see what I look like. But I've got

1715
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: an excuse. Two children. It's a free pass for the

1716
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: first five years. I've got at least another four to go.

1717
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: So what's closed excuse? That's why I look like that?

1718
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: Why does she six twenty one?

1719
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

1720
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplessy Allen on the Business Hour with maths,

1721
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: insurance and investments, Your futures in good hands, used talks.

1722
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 3: I'd be listen and Brady is going to be with

1723
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,520
Speaker 3: us in twenty minutes time, and there is no shortage

1724
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 3: of things that we need to talk to Enda about.

1725
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: We have got the Beckhams, so I don't know, I mean,

1726
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 3: should we just We'll just do the whole thing on

1727
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: the Beckhams. We do the whole thing on the Beckhams.

1728
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been aware of what's going

1729
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 3: on with the Beckhams, but that has been a thing,

1730
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: hasn't it. Anyway, what's happened with the Beckhams today is

1731
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 3: that they've just endured their first you know, family outing

1732
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: without Brooklyn and this happened in Paris because Lady Beckham,

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: as we now as Posh's now refer to, Lady Beckham

1734
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: received an award in Paris. She is now a Knight

1735
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: of the Order of Arts and Letters. And of course

1736
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 3: the family went there. You need the whole family to

1737
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 3: look happy. So she obviously sat everybody down and she

1738
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 3: went Romeo Cruz whatever the other one's name is, the girl.

1739
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: Nobody cares. Romeo Cruz girl. You all need to smile,

1740
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 3: you need to look happy, You're gonna look cool. We

1741
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: step and they did all of those things, and then

1742
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: she went on and they smiling as they stepped out,

1743
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 3: like no one's missing the big brother. And then she

1744
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: went on the Instagram and she thanked the whole family

1745
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: and stuff. So anyway, they've got through that. Now, through

1746
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: that awkward thing, they don't have to worry about that.

1747
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: That's the first of those ones done finished. Nobody cares

1748
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: about Brooklyn now, by the looks of things. We might

1749
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 3: talk to end about that, but we mayos also talk

1750
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 3: about the actually serious stuff which is happening, which is politics.

1751
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: The Suuella Braveman thing has gone completely weird. Now you'll

1752
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: be aware of this is the defection from the Conservatives

1753
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: over to the Reformer UK. What's happened is that as

1754
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 3: soon as she did that, the Conservatives put out a

1755
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 3: press statement basically saying that she's having a mental health crisis.

1756
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 3: They's put out a statement saying it was always a

1757
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: matter of when, not if Suela would defect. The Conservatives

1758
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: did all we could to look after Suella's mental health,

1759
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,919
Speaker 3: but she was clearly very unhappy. We'll cue everybody basically

1760
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: fury at them for that for good reasons. Talk to

1761
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: end about how weird that has got. Shortly it's twenty

1762
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 3: five past six.

1763
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1764
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: So the Aussie Open has graves grab some headlines, as

1765
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 3: you know. They got the jellyfish dress there and the

1766
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: fainting ball boy. But there's also been the Nick Kurrios

1767
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: drama because the chances, the expectations of his chances and

1768
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 3: the mixed doubles were actually through the roof. He had

1769
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: the brilliant went on Friday and then on Monday he

1770
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 3: lost and he was cross about it, and so everybody wondered, well,

1771
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: what happened? You awesome on Friday, you were so stink

1772
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: on Monday? Well, now we know what happened because the

1773
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 3: Daily Mail went looking, didn't they. He won Friday's game

1774
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: and then he went on a bender. He was spotted

1775
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: outside of a Melbourne night club early on Sunday morning

1776
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: after being asked to leave. His friends were happy to go,

1777
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: didn't want to cause a fuss, but Nick, because he's Nick,

1778
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 3: decided it wasn't his best interest to try and fight

1779
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: the bouncer. Unfortunately for Nick Krios, someone was filming alb

1780
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 3: easy He's next. Now you might be saying, well, hoo

1781
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: cares of Nick had some drinks to celebrate the win

1782
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: on Friday, and that would be fair. The only problem

1783
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: is it didn't stop, so he kept on partying. He

1784
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 3: was snapped in a separate Melbourne night club, which was

1785
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: also kicked out of by the way early on Monday morning,

1786
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: partying even harder. What was Monday morning? That's right, Monday

1787
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: morning was the Monday morning before his next game, which

1788
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 3: was also on Monday, which he lost, and he didn't

1789
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:34,959
Speaker 3: take that loss very graciously.

1790
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 25: How can you review a ball that's been hit over

1791
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 25: the net but you can't be your serve over the

1792
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 25: net doesn't make any sense.

1793
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: That's why I'm pissed off.

1794
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you should be at yourself anyway. So Nic Kurios,

1795
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 3: nothing changes. Twenty twenty six is the same as every

1796
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: other year in the Nick Karrios story. Still just letting

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: himself down anyway. Adaptation next, now the question of courses.

1798
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 3: We've talked about this for the longest time. Stop building

1799
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 3: houses and roads in places that are going to get

1800
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 3: to droudg is the weather gets worse through climate change?

1801
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: Why aren't we doing it? Are we gonna do it?

1802
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Judy Lawrence, climate adaptation expert. Next

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 3: News talks edby Yeah, it's out by.

1804
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's so get out Yeah. Let's go down to

1805
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 15: it's scoring.

1806
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: It's get up by Yeah, it's so get up by.

1807
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's so get up by.

1808
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's go down to score its sun get up

1809
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 3: by Yeah.

1810
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1811
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: on the business hour.

1812
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: We hand the duper CLA and MAS insurance and investments,

1813
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: your futures in good hands. Us talks EDB tell me

1814
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: all the.

1815
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: Worse, you'll mee me on our half right into Brady

1816
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: out of the UK with us shortly it's twenty five

1817
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 3: away from seven. The government has today announced it's adding

1818
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 3: one point two million dollars to the Meryl Relief Fund

1819
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 3: to help with immediate relief following last week's bad weather.

1820
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 3: The community is affected, though have obviously been here before,

1821
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: and many are only just recovering from Cyclone Gabrielle less

1822
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 3: than three years ago, which prompts the question, of course,

1823
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 3: what do we need to do and what do we

1824
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 3: need to do first to adapt to these changing weather patterns.

1825
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: Doctor Judy Lawrence is a climate adaptation expert with US Now. Hi, Jerdy,

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: good evening, right, So what's the priority? If you could

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01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 3: do one thing first in order to get ready and

1828
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: adapt to it to what's going on, what would it be.

1829
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 5: I would get an adaptation plan done smartly and the

1830
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 5: empowerment legislation to do that urgently, and I would link

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 5: it up with the Emergency Management Bill and the Planning

1832
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 5: Bill and the Climate Change Response Act.

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 6: Right.

1834
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: So this is the government's working on all of that paperwork.

1835
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: But if you could do something practically out there in

1836
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 3: the world, like lift a road or mover house or whatever,

1837
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 3: what would it be.

1838
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,919
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it's quite that somepul heather.

1839
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: We've had.

1840
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 5: We have to break the cycle of event recovery, report

1841
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 5: inquiry and then a long lead time before things happen.

1842
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 5: What we need is action. Most of the local authorities

1843
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 5: in these areas already have adaptation plans, albeit nascent, but

1844
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 5: could be quickly put together to identify where the key

1845
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 5: areas are for stopping further development. That would be a

1846
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 5: number one thing. Okay, Then we've got the legacy effect,

1847
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 5: which is the things that are places and things and

1848
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 5: land users and assets that are in very risky places,

1849
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 5: and these can be identified quickly. The regional councils and

1850
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 5: most of these areas know where these are now, and

1851
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 5: they need the mandate quickly and they need to get

1852
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 5: on with it right now. They could act now, and

1853
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 5: some of them, of course are doing that, and the

1854
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 5: government has assisted that through flood control and flood protection

1855
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 5: and so on. But protection isn't going to save us

1856
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 5: from the increasing frequency, intensity of rainfall and also the

1857
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 5: ongoing rise in sea level, so our coastal areas are

1858
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 5: at risk as well. So it is a complicated issue,

1859
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 5: but we need a comprehensive plan to address those priority areas.

1860
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 5: Government has signaled it's doing it. Haven't seen the legislation yet,

1861
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 5: but it really needs to be cranked up urgently because

1862
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: the transition into moving to adaptation means that we're not

1863
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 5: constantly recycling reports, not acting on them in a comprehensive way,

1864
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 5: a little bit skeet done. It's all fragmented, Judy.

1865
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: I suspect that once people see the bill, I mean

1866
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 3: it's in, it's like, it is enormous. It's billions and

1867
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: millions and millions and millions of dollars to actually adapt properly.

1868
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: Once people see the bill, I think that they will

1869
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 3: just abandon all hope of adapting.

1870
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 6: Right.

1871
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 3: So, how much of the adaptation has to fall on

1872
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: the government or authorities versus private property owners.

1873
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a combination of both. And I

1874
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 5: think the government has to provide the framework. It has

1875
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 5: to provide for financial instruments that can enable action to

1876
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,440
Speaker 5: be taken at local levels without complicated administrative.

1877
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 6: Work.

1878
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 5: To do that, it has to be kept simple. Some

1879
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 5: of that has already been signaled. But it's all about

1880
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 5: at the moment, it's all about recovery, and we have

1881
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 5: to move from recovery into planning for adaptation, but not

1882
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 5: just planning, acting on the plans. And that's why I

1883
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,480
Speaker 5: come back to this that some of these local authorities

1884
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 5: have plans. Now there needs to be some acting on

1885
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 5: them and funding to support that acting on them, and

1886
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 5: mandate to have give them confidence that they can get

1887
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 5: on with the job because we're in at the moment

1888
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 5: a hiatus. The rain will continue to fall in intense bursts,

1889
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 5: and the sea will continue to rise, and we're going

1890
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 5: to continue to have this problem and it goes around

1891
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 5: in circles and it has been for thirty forty years

1892
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 5: known a lot of this stuff.

1893
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 3: Are there roads or communities that you would just abandon

1894
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: all together and say you just can't have a road

1895
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 3: there and you just can't live there anymore.

1896
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 5: Well, I think that we may come to that, and

1897
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 5: I think some of the councils have started to address

1898
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 5: that issue. I can think of a number of areas

1899
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 5: in Nilson and Canterbury and the way Rappa where there

1900
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 5: are small communities dependent on roads and I think long

1901
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 5: term those or even short terms, some of those have

1902
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 5: to think about what the options are and what the

1903
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 5: choices are that they can make. They can't make them

1904
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 5: as individuals. They have to make them as a community

1905
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 5: and they have to be supported by government.

1906
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 3: And do you think insurance is actually going to do

1907
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 3: a lot of the heavy lifting for us here and

1908
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 3: force us to change, because I mean, at some point

1909
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 3: there will be some houses that will be uninsurable and

1910
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 3: so simply it will force the people to So will

1911
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 3: it be insurance that actually does that will be the

1912
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: market that makes these decisions for us?

1913
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 5: Well, I think that will be too slow. I think

1914
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 5: there's a tendency in New Zealand to spread the risks.

1915
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 5: The insurance companies don't want to have unaffordable insurance. Well

1916
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 5: some of them do, some of them don't. And I

1917
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 5: think I think long term that will happen. I don't

1918
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 5: think it will be fast enough.

1919
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 8: This is the problem.

1920
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 5: What's happening with the climate is this is all speeding up.

1921
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 5: We've warned our oceans with increased amount of moisture in

1922
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 5: the atmosphere, and it rains out and it is more

1923
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 5: intense and full frequent and so and our land gets

1924
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 5: sodden and it slips. We've known that, we've had guidance

1925
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: on it for decades and so to me, the critical

1926
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 5: bit that's missing is this mandate coordinated response between central

1927
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 5: and local government, the funding to deal with it and

1928
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 5: the will to take some hard decisions, but to be

1929
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 5: fair to people and to be fair to communities. I

1930
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 5: mean some of some of the some of what's happening

1931
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 5: up the East Coast, for example, is being initiated by

1932
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 5: the mild communities and it's fantastic what they're doing. And

1933
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 5: now the government has agreed to support some of that

1934
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 5: from what they have done to date, and I think

1935
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 5: we can learn from some of that. It can be

1936
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 5: done in communities that can't be done by individuals. The

1937
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 5: market is not fast enough and it requires a determinative

1938
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 5: approach that look people at the same time.

1939
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really appreciate your time. Thanks so much for

1940
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,879
Speaker 3: talking us through it. As Doctor Judy Lawrence, climate Adaptation

1941
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 3: expert at the Victoria University of Wellington, is eighteen away

1942
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 3: from seven. I'll tell you what. So entai Rua where

1943
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 3: we've got a place. There's been a lot of f

1944
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 3: so if you know Tyru, which is across the harbor

1945
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 3: and the corimandl from Pawanui, it's basically there's a hell

1946
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 3: over here with some houses on it. There's a manga

1947
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Speaker 3: over there, with some houses on it. There's another hell

1948
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Speaker 3: over there with some houses on it. There's a bit

1949
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 3: of grassy at the foot of the hill at one

1950
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Speaker 3: of the hills, some houses over there. And then there's

1951
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Speaker 3: a lot of low lying land which is basically where

1952
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Speaker 3: the rugby grounds are in the skate park and all

1953
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 3: that stuff. Anyway, went for a walk over summer. When

1954
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Speaker 3: I say a walk, what I really was doing was

1955
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Speaker 3: chasing a young a preschooler on a scooter to make

1956
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Speaker 3: sure he was safe running around with him. We stopped

1957
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Speaker 3: and had him and tyrou has got all these little

1958
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Speaker 3: fantastic plarks around just to tell you the history of

1959
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Speaker 3: the town. And stop to read one, and it will

1960
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Speaker 3: not surprise you to know that the area that is

1961
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Speaker 3: often flooded is actually reclaimed land. So I didn't realize this.

1962
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it makes perfect sense when you look at it.

1963
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Speaker 3: But basically, farmer in the nineteen fifties, excuse me, just

1964
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Speaker 3: had a cough farmer in the nineteen fifties, I think,

1965
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Speaker 3: if I remember correctly from reading the pluck dumped a

1966
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Speaker 3: whole bunch of gravel, but as silt over the top.

1967
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Speaker 3: Basically it was a wetland that he's built up, and

1968
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Speaker 3: then he subdivided the lots, sold of a bunch of plots,

1969
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Speaker 3: and there are houses there now water surprise that there

1970
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Speaker 3: is flooding anyway, how you you can't very well, I mean,

1971
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Speaker 3: Judy's right, you can't very well just move an entire

1972
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Speaker 3: community and go, well, you can't be here anymore. The

1973
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Speaker 3: obvious thing to do is obviously raise the level of

1974
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Speaker 3: your house. Chuck it up on stilts, put it up

1975
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Speaker 3: on just raise jacket up if you can, so the

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Speaker 3: water doesn't get in. But that's adaptation right there. Surely

1977
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Speaker 3: to God if that happened not in the nineteen fifties,

1978
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Speaker 3: but in the twenty twenties, we're going you can't do that, mate,

1979
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Speaker 3: because that's gonna that's gonna flood a whole bunch of houses.

1980
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Speaker 3: That's climate adaptation right there.

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Speaker 6: You go.

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Speaker 3: You did that in the fifties, you can't do it

1983
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Speaker 3: today anyway. Inter Brady with us next sixteen away from.

1984
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Speaker 2: Seven, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the business

1985
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Speaker 2: hours with head, the dupic Alt and mass insurance and investments,

1986
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Speaker 2: your futures in good hands, news talks.

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Speaker 1: That'd be heather.

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Speaker 3: Actually the council is still approving subdivisions on the floodplains

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Speaker 3: in Tayroua. Right now, they haven't learned anything. Daniel, thank you.

1990
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Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven into Brady, UK correspondent high in

1991
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Speaker 3: da Hello stranger, how are you very well? Thanks? Happy

1992
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Speaker 3: new year to you? What happy new year to reform

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Speaker 3: or what?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 15: So this gets very interesting now. So Nigel Farage has

1996
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Speaker 15: just unveiled the latest defector from the Conservative Party and

1997
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Speaker 15: she is quite a big beast really in the world

1998
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Speaker 15: of Conservative politics. Suella Bravraman. Now, she previously was Home

1999
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Speaker 15: Secretary in the UK government. She's served at a very

2000
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Speaker 15: high level in cabinet. She's got some right wing kind

2001
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Speaker 15: of policies that are popular with a lot of people.

2002
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Speaker 15: And I think she's a big addition for reform because

2003
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Speaker 15: she's a woman, and she's a one of color, and

2004
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Speaker 15: she is very, very tough on immigration. And I always

2005
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 15: thought that she felt very comfortable saying things that a

2006
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Speaker 15: lot of white, middle aged male politicians would feel deeply

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Speaker 15: uncomfortable saying in public. But she was not afraid to

2008
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Speaker 15: get up and call it out. So let's see how

2009
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Speaker 15: she goes with reform. I think it's damaging for the

2010
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Speaker 15: Conservatives to lose her, but also the manner of her departure.

2011
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Speaker 15: They actually said that they've done everything they could to

2012
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Speaker 15: help her with her mental health, and then they withdrew

2013
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 15: that statement because it looked awful.

2014
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Speaker 3: Now there has turned into quite a big mistake from them.

2015
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: Is there some truth to what they're saying or is

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Speaker 3: it just some It was just a really ham fisted smear.

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Speaker 15: You think perhaps if she has had some struggles in

2018
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Speaker 15: the past, they must be private, and that surely they

2019
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 15: should deserve to stay private. I've not heard anything on

2020
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Speaker 15: the Westminster grapevine. I mean a lot of people disagree

2021
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Speaker 15: with her policy and I've heard people say that, you know,

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Speaker 15: she's not someone you would listen to on migration because

2023
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 15: she's too extreme. If there is an issue with her

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Speaker 15: mental health, that's between her and her GP and should

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Speaker 15: not have been put out on a statement by the

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Speaker 15: Conservative Party which was then immediately withdrawn. They look very very.

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Speaker 3: Poor ones quite right now. I see am Stam has

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Speaker 3: hited off to China, is he yes?

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Speaker 15: So this is a big week for the Prime Minister

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Speaker 15: in more ways than one. He's already seen off Andy Burnham,

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Speaker 15: a rival challenger the mayor of Manchester who wants to

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Speaker 15: get back into Westminster. He has nipped that in the

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Speaker 15: bud this week by saying he can't run in an

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Speaker 15: upcoming by election in Greater Manchester. So international issues. Now

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Speaker 15: he's going to fly off to China and try to

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Speaker 15: get some trade deals done in Beijing. He is the

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Speaker 15: first UK Prime Minister to go there since Theresa Ay

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Speaker 15: in twenty eighteen. Now he goes with a little bit

2039
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 15: of credit in the banks. Starmer because last week he

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Speaker 15: signed off on China's proposed new mega embassy in London.

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Speaker 15: It is absolutely huge. It will be the biggest Chinese

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Speaker 15: embassy anywhere in the world, and the government's successive governments

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Speaker 15: had dither done this for eight years. Starmer signed it

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Speaker 15: off last week and I think he will be looking

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Speaker 15: for some nice trade deals to kind of put some

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Speaker 15: growth into the economy. But let's wait and see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got the t Have you seen the

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01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 3: front page of the Telegraph might yet, So they're running

2049
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Speaker 3: they're running a story your point. They're running a story

2050
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Speaker 3: suggesting that what's been going on is that China has

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Speaker 3: actually been hacking into the phones of advisors, very close

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Speaker 3: to previous Prime ministers and Downing Street, and the suggestion

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Speaker 3: is it may still so not today's news, but may

2054
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Speaker 3: still be continuing with Stama's administration. I mean, that's got

2055
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 3: to put a mess of spinner in the works Quillies

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Speaker 3: over there, doesn't it.

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Speaker 15: Yes, well, look we know this, we know what they're doing,

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Speaker 15: we know what they have been doing. And look all

2059
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Speaker 15: you need to know about China, the UK Ministry of

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01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 15: Defense has told all personnel from soldier level up to

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01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 15: general and anyone in between, do not come onto an

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Speaker 15: MLD site driving a Chinese E vehicle. We don't trust them.

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Speaker 15: They actually think there is spyware. This is this is

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Speaker 15: what has been said that they may well be paranoia,

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01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,839
Speaker 15: but they do not allow Chinese E vehicles onto Ministry

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Speaker 15: of Defense sites in the They are so worried about

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Speaker 15: sensitive material being whooped up into the air and off

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Speaker 15: to Beijing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now do you reckon? The Victams have handled it

2070
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 3: about as well as they could.

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Speaker 15: In Paris, They've said nothing and I think that's the

2072
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 15: only thing they could say for once.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

2075
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Speaker 15: Look the first family appearance since the bombshell Instagram post

2076
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Speaker 15: by The Sun Brooklyn last week accusing them of all sorts,

2077
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Speaker 15: So they fronted up last night. It's a couture week

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Speaker 15: in Paris and that is why Victoria was invited in

2079
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 15: by the French Ministry of Culture and she was given

2080
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 15: an award last night. So they were all there apart

2081
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 15: obviously from Brooklyn and his wife Nicola. So look, the

2082
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 15: saga rumbles on and I've I've found some kind of

2083
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 15: amusement this week on Instagram watching Irish people dancing inappropriately

2084
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 15: at weddings and pretending Victoria Beckham. Look, this is a

2085
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 15: story that's going to rumble on and I think the

2086
01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 15: next development will be when Brooklyn has about of Nepole

2087
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 15: baby hissy fest and does another Instagram post. I don't

2088
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 15: know when someone misses his birthday or something or what

2089
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 15: someone un follows them and follows them back. I God

2090
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 15: knows what goes on in that fella's head.

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Speaker 3: And thank you very much appreciate of it. Look forward

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Speaker 3: to talking to you in a couple of days. In

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Speaker 3: The Brady UK Correspondent Eight Away from seven, It's the

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Speaker 3: Heather too.

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Speaker 2: For see Alan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

2096
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Speaker 2: by news dog Zebbi.

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Speaker 3: Hither on the climate adaptation, the Dutch ambassador told me

2098
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Speaker 3: they haven't been allowed to build in zones like Eastbourne

2099
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Speaker 3: for more than two decades. I mean, if anybody knows

2100
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 3: about adapting to the climate and adapting to water, it's

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01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: the Dutch, isn't it. It's five away from seven now,

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Speaker 3: Kanye West, this is reasonably big news, like in the

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01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: you know, if you're interested in what's going on with

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01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 3: celebrities and stuff like that pop culture, because Kanye West

2105
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 3: has finally, it appears, rejoined the rest of us in

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01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 3: what we like to call reality. He has taken out

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Speaker 3: a full page advert in the Wall Street Journal apologize

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Speaker 3: for his anti Semitic behavior, because if you've been following

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Speaker 3: Kanye West, that's been a thing to watch, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: For it like a number of years where he started

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Speaker 3: doing really wild things like making offensive statements about Jewish

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Speaker 3: people and then selling t shirts with swastikas on them

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Speaker 3: and all kinds of stuff. He says in this full

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Speaker 3: page ad that he's taking and people were just and

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Speaker 3: people were worried about him, but also writing him off

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Speaker 3: because it was like the wildest thing you could possibly

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Speaker 3: imagine someone doing in that space. Kanye was doing. He

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 3: was going right out there anyway, so he's taking out

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Speaker 3: this ad in the Wall Street Journal. He reckons what's

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Speaker 3: happened is he had a car crash in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and two and it was really bad. That's why he

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Speaker 3: has drawback together and all kinds of stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't diagnose he'd had a frontal lobe injury,

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Speaker 3: and that, he reckons, is the reason for him having bipolar.

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Speaker 3: And he's been having these episodes, including the one where

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Speaker 3: he went all like anti Jewish people, where he's lost

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Speaker 3: touch with reality, but he's convinced that he while he's

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Speaker 3: in that episode, he's convinced that he's the one that's

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Speaker 3: right and everybody else is wrong. So anyway, he's taken

2130
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: the said, he's apologized for it. He's got help now

2131
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: he's come back to reality and he says he's sorry

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Speaker 3: and he does love Jewish people after all. So I

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Speaker 3: suppose all's well that ends well in that respect ends

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Speaker 3: And the other.

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Speaker 14: Big music news today obviously is Harry Styles tickets going

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Speaker 14: on sale for Australia, which is the US here now

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Speaker 14: because Harry Styles tickets are going to go on sale

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Speaker 14: for New Zealand in this particular too. Unfortunately, other bit

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Speaker 14: of news from us playing Watermelon Sugar by Harry Styles. Now,

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Speaker 14: other bit of news from him. He's going to be

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Speaker 14: presenting one of the Grammys, or at least one of

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Speaker 14: the Grammys. He's going to be a presenter at the

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Speaker 14: awards ceremony, which happens over the weekend or Monday our time.

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Speaker 14: Presumably because he didn't he's not up for any Grammy

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Speaker 14: this year, because he didn't put any music hours. They're

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Speaker 14: probably given Tom the call me like, go on, make yourself.

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Speaker 3: Useful because he's a cultural moment.

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Speaker 14: That Yeah, and there's a new album coming out shortly,

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Speaker 14: so I'm sure he'll be in the Grammy nominees next year.

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Speaker 3: Hey Michael, who's sitting next to you? Have you heard

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Speaker 3: the new single Aperture?

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Speaker 16: Do you like it?

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Speaker 3: Thumbs up with thumbs down, thumbs up? You like it too?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 24: Big thumbs up. Yeah, it's basically a techno song.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 24: If the rest of the albums like this, I will

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Speaker 24: be doing absolute one on Harry Stark.

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Speaker 3: Because Kevin, Kevin says no, Kevin, by the way, is

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Speaker 3: the new German. He's because the Germans off to have

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Speaker 3: gonna have so much fun with Kevin. Just be warned anyway, Okay, Boomer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right. Chloe and Chloe, see you tomorrow.

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