1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:15,413 Speaker 2: A'd be Mike Howardley's our travel corresponding Good morning. 4 00:00:15,213 --> 00:00:20,413 Speaker 3: Sir, Good morning Jack. Prediction time bodies by three. 5 00:00:20,813 --> 00:00:24,213 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad. You know what I said at the 6 00:00:24,293 --> 00:00:25,893 Speaker 2: very start of the show this morning that I thought 7 00:00:25,893 --> 00:00:27,853 Speaker 2: the Springwalk's going to win. I reckon they're going to 8 00:00:27,893 --> 00:00:31,893 Speaker 2: win by eleven. But when I said that, I did 9 00:00:31,893 --> 00:00:34,493 Speaker 2: that kind of that audible intake of breath, and I 10 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,573 Speaker 2: was like, is today a day where I want to 11 00:00:36,613 --> 00:00:39,053 Speaker 2: get a thousand texts telling me why I'm wrong about this, 12 00:00:39,173 --> 00:00:40,973 Speaker 2: that I don't know anything? And I was like, do 13 00:00:41,053 --> 00:00:43,533 Speaker 2: I really want to pick that fight? And then I 14 00:00:43,613 --> 00:00:46,213 Speaker 2: was very surprised to go on the tab website and 15 00:00:46,293 --> 00:00:48,693 Speaker 2: look at the odds because I am not the only 16 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:51,333 Speaker 2: one picking South Africa. So Sutdifica is paying a dollar 17 00:00:51,413 --> 00:00:54,133 Speaker 2: forty seven at the moment New Zealand, the All Blacks 18 00:00:54,173 --> 00:00:57,133 Speaker 2: paying two sixty according to the JB, which is I reckon, 19 00:00:57,173 --> 00:00:58,893 Speaker 2: the longest odds that the All Blacks have had in 20 00:00:58,973 --> 00:01:02,373 Speaker 2: some time. But yes, you know, we know how difficult 21 00:01:02,413 --> 00:01:04,733 Speaker 2: it is there. If they can get up, it doesn't 22 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:05,333 Speaker 2: mean I don't. 23 00:01:05,133 --> 00:01:06,013 Speaker 4: Want the All Blacks to win. 24 00:01:06,053 --> 00:01:07,853 Speaker 2: If they can get up, it would be such a 25 00:01:07,853 --> 00:01:09,773 Speaker 2: great victory for them, So he's hunting. 26 00:01:09,813 --> 00:01:10,253 Speaker 4: I suppose. 27 00:01:10,813 --> 00:01:13,293 Speaker 3: I reckon we might win next week, but I think 28 00:01:13,613 --> 00:01:15,173 Speaker 3: Alice Park too tough. 29 00:01:15,053 --> 00:01:16,053 Speaker 4: Alice Dung and Joe Berg. 30 00:01:16,173 --> 00:01:18,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, and given how the South Aficans have been playing 31 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:20,573 Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks, Yeah, it's going to 32 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:22,053 Speaker 2: be It's gonna be a tricky run, but hey, you 33 00:01:22,093 --> 00:01:24,573 Speaker 2: never know, and it will certainly be Yeah, be a 34 00:01:24,573 --> 00:01:26,773 Speaker 2: pretty epic epic test. 35 00:01:26,853 --> 00:01:28,013 Speaker 4: News took of course. 36 00:01:27,853 --> 00:01:30,573 Speaker 2: Life coverage from three o'clock tomorrow morning. Now we are 37 00:01:30,573 --> 00:01:34,013 Speaker 2: focusing on Hawaii's Volcanoes National Park, which I reckon is 38 00:01:34,453 --> 00:01:36,693 Speaker 2: in terms of the names of national parks, has to 39 00:01:36,693 --> 00:01:39,693 Speaker 2: be right up there. So just how big is Volcanoes 40 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:40,213 Speaker 2: National Park? 41 00:01:40,773 --> 00:01:43,333 Speaker 3: She is a whopper. If you were planning a jaunt 42 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:45,933 Speaker 3: to the Big Island, you will really want to set 43 00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:50,893 Speaker 3: aside some decent time to explore Hawaii's hot seat, because, 44 00:01:51,773 --> 00:01:54,413 Speaker 3: to put it in context, it's as big as the 45 00:01:54,653 --> 00:02:00,413 Speaker 3: entire island of OAHUU. So we're talking serious terrain and 46 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:04,653 Speaker 3: it's the only US national park that can teut tropical 47 00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:08,293 Speaker 3: rainforest and an act of so a lot of really 48 00:02:08,373 --> 00:02:13,413 Speaker 3: novel features to it. One of my guides, the Ejects, said, 49 00:02:13,413 --> 00:02:18,133 Speaker 3: the park boasts six of the Earth's thirteen climate zones. 50 00:02:18,453 --> 00:02:23,293 Speaker 3: So in terms of scenery and terrain and just sheer variety, Yeah, 51 00:02:23,573 --> 00:02:28,173 Speaker 3: I was truly surprised just how varied the place is. 52 00:02:28,413 --> 00:02:30,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, so there are and there are two big 53 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:32,693 Speaker 4: volcanoes there, right, Yes, so. 54 00:02:32,693 --> 00:02:36,093 Speaker 3: You've got Mana Loa and the more active Keeler Wayer. 55 00:02:36,213 --> 00:02:38,613 Speaker 3: What really blew my hair back is that even though 56 00:02:38,613 --> 00:02:42,293 Speaker 3: Mana Lola reaches the same altitude as Mount Cock, she's 57 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:47,973 Speaker 3: actually nine thousand meters from tip to toe because half 58 00:02:48,013 --> 00:02:51,853 Speaker 3: of her is underneath the ocean. So that actually makes 59 00:02:51,893 --> 00:02:55,653 Speaker 3: Mana Lola a thousand meters taller than Mount Everest, which 60 00:02:55,693 --> 00:03:00,773 Speaker 3: is quite infesting. Oh yeah, yeah, because there's not actually 61 00:03:00,853 --> 00:03:05,733 Speaker 3: much of Everest underneath the ground. But yeah, above sea 62 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:10,213 Speaker 3: level obviously is the tallest. But when it comes to 63 00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:15,853 Speaker 3: keep away this very feisty, effusive neighbor to Manala, her 64 00:03:15,933 --> 00:03:19,973 Speaker 3: last major eruption was six years ago, destroyed seven hundred homes. Bang, 65 00:03:20,053 --> 00:03:23,053 Speaker 3: thanks for coming. But she's also the land builder. And 66 00:03:23,093 --> 00:03:25,653 Speaker 3: you will notice this. There are just hundreds of acres 67 00:03:25,693 --> 00:03:29,453 Speaker 3: that she created six years ago, particularly along the coastline 68 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:32,213 Speaker 3: where all that molten lava meets the sea and it 69 00:03:32,293 --> 00:03:36,293 Speaker 3: just extends out the coastline. She did erupt for eight 70 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:39,253 Speaker 3: hours in June, but it was just a very short 71 00:03:39,293 --> 00:03:42,413 Speaker 3: lived affair. But even when she's not erupting, she is 72 00:03:42,653 --> 00:03:43,893 Speaker 3: constantly steaming. 73 00:03:44,013 --> 00:03:45,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you self drive it? 74 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely the best way to do it. So 75 00:03:49,373 --> 00:03:52,933 Speaker 3: from Heilo Airport, it's just a forty five minute drive 76 00:03:52,973 --> 00:03:55,893 Speaker 3: into the National Park. So grab a rental from Helo Airport, 77 00:03:56,733 --> 00:04:01,773 Speaker 3: head to the aptly named village of Volcano. And I'm 78 00:04:01,813 --> 00:04:04,333 Speaker 3: always amused to Jack and I think we've talked about 79 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:08,293 Speaker 3: this before an American National part. They are so tailor 80 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:12,573 Speaker 3: made to be supremely lazy. You've got these beautiful paves, 81 00:04:12,813 --> 00:04:16,373 Speaker 3: loop roads that they're around all the attractions. So yeah, 82 00:04:16,373 --> 00:04:19,333 Speaker 3: you can enjoy a very lazy panoramic drive. But for 83 00:04:19,413 --> 00:04:23,173 Speaker 3: the view of views, you've got to head to Hollo 84 00:04:23,293 --> 00:04:27,173 Speaker 3: Mao Maoh Crater. And this is like a crater within 85 00:04:27,253 --> 00:04:32,013 Speaker 3: a crater. It's where many Native Hawaiians believe this is 86 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:36,733 Speaker 3: where the Goddess of fire Pile currently resides. So she 87 00:04:37,173 --> 00:04:40,173 Speaker 3: smokes by the day and if you strike it lucky 88 00:04:40,533 --> 00:04:45,333 Speaker 3: come nightfall, you can see the flickering molten hellfire glow 89 00:04:46,093 --> 00:04:50,373 Speaker 3: of that crater's lava lake after dark, which is absolutely mesmerized. 90 00:04:50,493 --> 00:04:53,293 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that sounds very special. Cool. So what were 91 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:54,893 Speaker 4: some of your favorite attractions. 92 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:59,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, another place to head is Steam Vents. That's 93 00:04:59,373 --> 00:05:02,213 Speaker 3: another classic viewpoint, and in the cool of dawn, she 94 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:05,613 Speaker 3: is pumping these huge plumes of steam. It's like the 95 00:05:05,853 --> 00:05:10,093 Speaker 3: factory inside the National Park. And from Steam Vents you 96 00:05:10,133 --> 00:05:14,173 Speaker 3: can take a very short walk to Steaming Bluff, very 97 00:05:14,213 --> 00:05:17,973 Speaker 3: sort of self explanatory, and this viewpoint it kind of 98 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:23,613 Speaker 3: resembles an inferno with steam pouring over the cliffs, just relentlessly. 99 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:29,093 Speaker 3: Definitely do a walk called Devastation Trail. Great name, kind 100 00:05:29,093 --> 00:05:30,413 Speaker 3: of says it all once again. 101 00:05:31,093 --> 00:05:31,813 Speaker 1: So this was a. 102 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:36,573 Speaker 3: Rainforest that was incinerated by Kellerwayer about sixty years ago. 103 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:39,573 Speaker 3: So you've got a very scarred landscape, sort of like 104 00:05:39,653 --> 00:05:43,253 Speaker 3: an ashen gray desert. But just as nature gives with 105 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:46,573 Speaker 3: one hand and takes with the other, this brutal landscape 106 00:05:46,653 --> 00:05:49,413 Speaker 3: is being recolonized in front of your eyes. You can 107 00:05:49,413 --> 00:05:54,053 Speaker 3: see trees and ferns defiantly rising up from that black dirt. 108 00:05:54,293 --> 00:05:56,973 Speaker 3: Place your hands on the ground and you can feel 109 00:05:57,053 --> 00:05:59,253 Speaker 3: the hot pot directly beneath you. 110 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:02,973 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's yeah, that sounds it. That sounds quite 111 00:06:03,213 --> 00:06:06,813 Speaker 2: unique and yeah, quite specially. So there are petrik right 112 00:06:06,853 --> 00:06:11,693 Speaker 2: the rock paintings, Yes, are they rock carvings? 113 00:06:11,773 --> 00:06:12,253 Speaker 4: Is that differ? 114 00:06:12,493 --> 00:06:16,013 Speaker 3: They are rest that's correct, Yep, they've been chiseled. So 115 00:06:16,253 --> 00:06:19,853 Speaker 3: there was a place called poo Ulua petroglyphs and they've 116 00:06:19,893 --> 00:06:23,933 Speaker 3: done a brilliant boardwalk loop trail. So obviously the boardwalkers 117 00:06:24,013 --> 00:06:28,853 Speaker 3: elevated above these vast lava flows so they don't damage 118 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:33,853 Speaker 3: these chiseled drawings, thousands of them apparently at last count 119 00:06:33,853 --> 00:06:37,773 Speaker 3: there's twenty three thousands of them chiseled into the rocks. 120 00:06:38,013 --> 00:06:41,973 Speaker 3: They've been done over centuries by native Hawaiians. Lots of 121 00:06:42,013 --> 00:06:48,253 Speaker 3: animal and human figures, really fascinating. Another curiosity, first in 122 00:06:48,373 --> 00:06:53,053 Speaker 3: lava tube and this is enrobed in rainforests so beautifully lush. 123 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:56,053 Speaker 3: Keep an eye out for the scarlet honeycreeper, which is 124 00:06:56,093 --> 00:06:59,973 Speaker 3: a spectacular bird. But the big Kahoona is this gigantic 125 00:07:00,093 --> 00:07:03,733 Speaker 3: lava tube and all it's all been artificially litz jack, 126 00:07:03,893 --> 00:07:07,733 Speaker 3: so it feels so ethereal. But these lava tubes have 127 00:07:07,853 --> 00:07:12,293 Speaker 3: formed to when the outer crust of a lava river hardens, 128 00:07:12,693 --> 00:07:17,333 Speaker 3: but the liquid lava beneath that crust continues to gush, 129 00:07:17,493 --> 00:07:20,333 Speaker 3: and then after all of that flow has strained out, 130 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:24,453 Speaker 3: you were left with this big, hard, tunnel like shell. 131 00:07:24,773 --> 00:07:26,693 Speaker 3: So you can walk through the whole thing today. It 132 00:07:26,773 --> 00:07:27,573 Speaker 3: is so cool. 133 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:29,133 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, ah, that's great. 134 00:07:29,173 --> 00:07:32,013 Speaker 2: Okay, So it would Volcano House, do you reckon be 135 00:07:32,053 --> 00:07:32,933 Speaker 2: the best place to stay? 136 00:07:33,893 --> 00:07:37,773 Speaker 3: Yes, I would absolutely stress do the National Park, not 137 00:07:37,893 --> 00:07:41,293 Speaker 3: as a day trip, but for at least an overnight stay. 138 00:07:41,853 --> 00:07:45,533 Speaker 3: Definitely check out Volcano House. It's the only larging within 139 00:07:45,573 --> 00:07:49,173 Speaker 3: the park. It is actually Hawaii's oldest hotel. It was 140 00:07:49,173 --> 00:07:51,773 Speaker 3: first established back in the eighteen forties. So it's got 141 00:07:51,773 --> 00:07:56,413 Speaker 3: a very woodsy, sort of super sized bungalow feel, lots 142 00:07:56,453 --> 00:07:59,533 Speaker 3: of history, So many amazing people have stayed there, you know, 143 00:07:59,573 --> 00:08:03,893 Speaker 3: everyone from Mark Twain's JFK Familiar Earhart, you name it. 144 00:08:04,853 --> 00:08:07,333 Speaker 3: But you are literally sleepy on the edge of the 145 00:08:07,373 --> 00:08:09,733 Speaker 3: crater rim and I would have to say when it 146 00:08:09,773 --> 00:08:12,253 Speaker 3: comes to a room with a view looking out the 147 00:08:12,373 --> 00:08:16,613 Speaker 3: window and seeing that molten lava lake. Yeah, that takes 148 00:08:16,613 --> 00:08:17,173 Speaker 3: some beating. 149 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:21,533 Speaker 4: That sounds amazing. So is the volcano. 150 00:08:22,413 --> 00:08:28,333 Speaker 2: This is the Volcanoes National Park, Volcano Village with Volcano House, correct, 151 00:08:28,413 --> 00:08:30,613 Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be too hard to get confused there. 152 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:33,053 Speaker 3: They make life easy for you. 153 00:08:33,173 --> 00:08:33,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, they do. 154 00:08:33,893 --> 00:08:34,213 Speaker 3: They do. 155 00:08:34,573 --> 00:08:36,653 Speaker 4: That sounds amazing. Hey, thank you so much. Eager to 156 00:08:36,653 --> 00:08:38,213 Speaker 4: get up, Mike, I think so. 157 00:08:38,373 --> 00:08:41,013 Speaker 3: Jack A tour of Ducy three in the morning. 158 00:08:41,053 --> 00:08:43,533 Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, yeah, good work, fair fair call too. 159 00:08:44,213 --> 00:08:46,373 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Mike Hardley there will make sure 160 00:08:46,373 --> 00:08:49,613 Speaker 2: All of his tips for traveling around Hawaii Volcano Hawaii's 161 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:52,293 Speaker 2: Volcanoes National Park are up and available on the News 162 00:08:52,333 --> 00:08:53,493 Speaker 2: Talks the website. 163 00:08:53,973 --> 00:08:57,053 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 164 00:08:57,173 --> 00:08:59,973 Speaker 1: to News Talks He'd be from nine am Saturday, or 165 00:09:00,053 --> 00:09:01,893 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.