1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: I have the rate to finish my swing at your 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: case of mine. She's right away. Clopark is right. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: It's easy to say fancentric, but the reality is what 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: do we do in a tangible sense to make this 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: competition more appealing, more rivals, more thumbs on seats. 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: That's a humbling moment from myself and my family and 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: farm with Thomas. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm still trying to pinch myself on the 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: sports saddle with us. This evening we have Andrew Gordy, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 4: News Hub sports presenter and Matt Brown, Oceania Football Confederation 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 4: media manager. Lads. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: Hello, do you. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 5: Hi Gordy? 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: Hello Gordy? What's your preference? Would you like? This is 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 4: for the playoffs and Super Rugby? Would you like a 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: conference style playoff or would you just like a top six either? 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that the biggest problem 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: with the Super Rugby plaoffs this year is that the 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: Crusader the art and it so I think any system 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: that moves to somewhere that you know the Crusaders can 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: finish last but still being the playoffs will be best 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: nine joking obviously, I'd prefer to have a top sex, 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: give the top two a week off, have to have 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: three through sex playoff. 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: And then have a semi five is still too many, Gordia. 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: I mean, should we maybe be thinking about four? 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: We've kind but I don't think that the competition bosses 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: will agree with you there. They'd like to eake an 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: extra week out of the bit more money if you've 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: want ump on teat that sort of thing. 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you reckon that? 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 5: I agree with Andrew years six out of the eleven teams. 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: I mean it's you know, three at home to six, 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 5: four at home to five and then the semi finalcy 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 5: of three weeks of playoffs. That's about right. 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: There. 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 5: Obviously be a by during the competition for teams with 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 5: the round you know, with the MC rebels not being 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: there uneven numbers, so maybe we can reduce the amount 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: of weeks that the all blacks are given off from 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: the competition too, So it might be not being a 42 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 5: good thing, you know. Personally, I think less is more 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: and I'd probably want to see a Super ten and 44 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: have more quality rather than some of the rubbish we 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: got off at points this year. I think the year 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: the top few teams, Sure there's real quality, but that 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: it is what it is, and it's going to be 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 5: eleven next year and it's probably going to be a 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 5: little bit messy. But the other thing they take into 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: account to is the actual length of the competition, the 51 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: amount of weeks they've got. You can't have a full 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 5: home and away for example, which is you know, maybe 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 5: a shame of a league format home and away would 54 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: be quite a good way to do it. 55 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: I think Gordy hasn't Matt just struck on the actual 56 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 4: problem with Super Rugby, right. Super Rugby was sold to 57 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: us as a super competition like it was the best 58 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: of the best. It was going to be Rugby on steroids. 59 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: Actually a lot of it is crap. 60 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: A lot of it is crap, and it's because it's 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: got an uneven competition and the only way to fix 62 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: that is to allow freedom of movements between all of 63 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: the franchises so you level out the competition. Unfortunately, that's 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: probably going to mean allowing all blacks to play for 65 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: Australian teams, things like that, but that's actually got If 66 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: you improve the quality of the competition right across the board, 67 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: more people are going to watch it. You're going to 68 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: get more people coming to games, and that's only going 69 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: to improve the competition and get more made from broadcasters, 70 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: all of those sorts of things that can only be 71 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: a positive. 72 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you speak so sense there, Matt. How do you 73 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: feel about video reefing and tennis? Do we need more 74 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: of this? Do we actually need to introduce so? 75 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: No? Quite, simply no. Now, look, we've already we've already 76 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 5: got the line judgets being replaced by the hawkway technology 77 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: now so and for the most part, I think it works. 78 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: In tennis, there is the odd call and you tend 79 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: to get it more on the clay with the marks 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: which the always used to have, you know, the ballmark 81 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: before they introduced it, and hence you know, we had 82 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: the Coco goth incident yesterday. But overall, no, I think 83 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: that would just slow the game down so much more. 84 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: And we've seen what it's done to other sports and footballer. 85 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 5: I mean in some countries want you know, want va 86 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: want to scrap VAA. It's already happened, I think in 87 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: Scandinavia and Sweden, and I know the English clubs voted 88 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 5: to keep it, but I still think we should keep it. 89 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: Bat and needs to be refined and better and quicker. 90 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Gordy what did you. You're a football fan, aren't you. 91 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: I am a huge football fan, and I've really gone 92 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: backwards and forwards on this particular issue right throughout the afternoon, 93 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, any sport, no 94 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 3: matter what sport we're talking about, sport is an entertainment product, right, 95 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: And there was something entertaining about Coco Goth having an 96 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: argument with the chair umpire, right, Yeah, it gives us 97 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: a point of conversation. Now, if you eliminate that from sport, 98 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: yes you're going to get the extra calls, but are 99 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: we going to be as entertained as we previously were? 100 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Matt Ray is a very very valid point about var 101 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: in particular in football. It has slowed the game right down, 102 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: and we hate what it's done to football, But hasn't 103 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: actually turned anyone away from football. I'm not sure that 104 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: it has. They're all still there, they're all still watching. 105 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a bit fifty fifty to be honest 106 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: about the introduction of technology into any sport, and tennis 107 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: would be a big one. It would be a huge change, 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: I think to tennis. But look, if you're going to 109 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: hold a gun to my head, I think i'd still 110 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: rather have the chair. 111 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: Maybe this will solve a view. From what I can see, 112 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: it doesn't. Introducing video into tennis would not have solved 113 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: Coco Gov's problem, right, because what happened was the ball 114 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: came towards her landed, was called out, and because it 115 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: was called out, she returned served like really lazily, right, 116 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: and then it was called in afterwards. She should have 117 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: because it was called out, she should have been allowed 118 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: to continue her serve the way it was and it was. 119 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: It should have just stood right. Video reffing will not 120 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: have changed that situation. 121 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not sure why. It depends on how you 122 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: apply the rules. And you know, that's part of the 123 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: problem I think we've got with you know, rugby in particular, 124 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: but also in our Arouland football. There's sort of a 125 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: statute of limitations almost about what were video can be 126 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: applied and where it can't. So that would have to 127 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: be something that tennis officials would have to consider. But 128 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: I've got to say our side with Coco on this. 129 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: It should have been replaped. 130 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: Interesting. 131 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 4: Okay, guys, we'll take a break, come back to you. 132 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: Short left the Friday Sports title with New Zealand Southeby's 133 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: International Realty exceptional marketing for every property. 134 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: Right, you're back of the sports title, Matt Brown Andrew 135 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: Gordy Speaking of the football, Matt, do you reckon Alex 136 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: Paulson being signed by Bournemouth. Bournemouth in the EPL is 137 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: going to make a whole bunch of kids in New 138 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: Zealand just dream big and go hard at playing football. 139 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Look, the EPL is the be all and endoor. 140 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 5: I think as far as most key we kids are 141 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: partly due to their parents. I'm no different. My son 142 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: is addicted to watching Liverpool, for example, and so if 143 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: he plays for Born Myth, Born Myth in the Premier 144 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 5: League and actually gets starts and becomes the first team keeper, 145 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: just like Kiwi's love to see Chris Wood and they 146 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 5: go gaga when he comes down to New Zealand and 147 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: has played for Norway. Same thing back before him Ryan 148 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 5: Nelson when he was at Blackburn and Spurs Winston Reed 149 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: at west Ham. The Premier League is everything. In fact, 150 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: a lot of our players are playing in Europe and 151 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 5: yet they are not necessarily getting the say they're not well, 152 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: They're not getting the same exposure despite you know, Liby 153 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 5: Cacaci playing in Serie R. It just does not have 154 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: anywhere near the profile in this country that the Premier 155 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 5: League does, so it will be massive for a generation 156 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: of kids. 157 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. 158 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Gordy. 159 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 4: Is he good enough to become the first keeper? 160 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 161 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah he is. I think he's clearly 162 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: demonstrated the season with the Fomat that he's a prodigious talent. 163 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: And what I think is incredible here that is that 164 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: this is twenty one years old, He's had one season 165 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: in the A League, He's yet to play an international 166 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: for his country, and yet he's been spotted by an 167 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: English Premier League club. Now what does that tell you 168 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: about modern football modern sport? You can be spotted anywhere 169 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: and that never used to be the case. And I 170 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: really think, especially in recent years, you know, we now 171 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: have quite a number of young talented footballers playing in 172 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, elite competitions around the world, and I think 173 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: that's only going to grow. But like you say, if 174 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: kids can see it and believe it, they will continue 175 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: to do it. So yeah, it is going to attract 176 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: more kids to the sport, I think. 177 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so pleased about that. Hey, Matt on the 178 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: Formula one. These guys are promising smaller, greener, more for 179 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: energy efficient cars from twenty twenty six. Do you like 180 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: what you see? Have you got concerns about it? 181 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: Look, I'm not a petrol head. I've put my hand 182 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: on the table there. But I'll tell you what I love. 183 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: I do love Formula one. I never got into Formulae 184 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: at all. The silent cars don't do it for me. 185 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: So cleaner, greener, are they going to be quieter? I 186 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: mean not to sports fans love the noise, you know, 187 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 5: the the days of the vs. The supercars, the mist 188 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: and mobile five hundred, Pocker coed, these great events that 189 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: we've had over the years. To me, no, I wouldn't 190 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: make those changes. I think it needs to stay as 191 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 5: it is. 192 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: No, totally because Gordy Lewis Hamilton already he has already 193 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: heard from other drivers that these cars are slower. That's pointless, 194 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: isn't it. 195 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: That is totally pointless. And Matt, I'm totally with you. 196 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: We call them the sewing machines are the Formula E 197 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: cars because they do. They sound like piwing machines going 198 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: around the train. And what people want is they want 199 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: the noise, they want the speed, and they want drivers 200 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: that hate each other. If you get those three things 201 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: in Formula one, that's a recipe for success. And I'm 202 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: not sure this is heading in the right direction. 203 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: It's all right, guys, listen, enjoy your week in a sport. 204 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: Thank you so much appreciated Andrew Gordy, News Hubsport presenter 205 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: and Matt Brown, Oceania Football Confederation media manager. 206 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 207 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: News Talk sai'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 208 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.