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Speaker 3: Be afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Shane

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Speaker 3: Jones on whether we should be worried about fuel and rationing,

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Speaker 3: the Primary teachers Union break their silence on the government

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Speaker 3: Social Development Minister on why we have record numbers of kiwis.

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Speaker 2: On the doll Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Now, look, I don't think there's any reason to panic,

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Speaker 3: but if you read the news closely, and if you

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Speaker 3: read more widely than just the local New Zealand news,

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Speaker 3: you're probably starting to get a little nervous. I would

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Speaker 3: say about what might happen to fuel here and the

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Speaker 3: possibility that we may have to start rationing. The Strait

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Speaker 3: of Homus is still effectively shut. The Iranians have attacked

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Speaker 3: thirteen tankers. Now the boss of the Saudi backed oil

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Speaker 3: company has warned this could be catastrophic for the world's

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Speaker 3: economy if that's straight. Isn't open relatively soon. South Korea

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Speaker 3: has floated the possibility of banning exports of fuel. That's

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Speaker 3: a problem for us. It's where we get roughly half

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Speaker 3: have now run out of diesel because the tawneys are

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Speaker 3: so you can only lock in about half of what

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Speaker 3: we've got. The Minister is now taking advice on how

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Speaker 3: and one of the ideas he's considering and taking advice

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Speaker 3: on his carless days. There are now normally very level

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ration rationing sounds bad. It sounds like something from World

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Speaker 3: like a significant escalation of the situation. This thing might

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Speaker 3: world economies are wild economics because he is so fixated

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Speaker 3: But the thing is it's already having an impact, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It will already be wiping money off our GDP. The

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Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking this is not going to end up

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Speaker 3: in the worst case scenario that the Minister is preparing for.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether that's my wishful or my rational brain,

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Speaker 2: Ever do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nineteen is a text number standard text fee supply

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Speaker 3: and Shane Jones is with us on that. After five

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Speaker 3: He's been in the job for twenty five years, so

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Speaker 3: it's a significant departure. This follows the exit of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Cricket Chief Executive Scott Wennick in December. Heath Mills

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Speaker 3: us with us now Hi Heath afternon Heather, why are

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Speaker 4: The time's right. It's been a long stint coming up

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty excited about the change.

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Speaker 3: You know that everybody is seeing ghosts here because you're

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Speaker 5: Well, we know that ghosts aren't real.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, look, I'm you know, the players are very

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Speaker 4: It's it's been hard decision to make, as it's been

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Speaker 3: Now you're off to work with Strata Collective. Has this

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Speaker 4: No, that's a group of people who have set up

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Speaker 4: which would be good. But yeah, that will be the

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Speaker 3: You might end up doing something in NZ twenty.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. No, I don't think I have

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Speaker 3: I'm going to that one. Can I tell you why

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Speaker 3: I'm asking you this question, Heath, Because there is a

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Speaker 3: Strata Collective was incorporated yesterday. The registered office is Tavern

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Speaker 3: So people have stitched it together and they've gone the

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Speaker 3: NZ twenty is therefore happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's a good story, but that's not true.

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Speaker 5: And I hope IN twenty is happening.

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Speaker 4: But I won't have anything to do with it moving forward.

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Speaker 5: There there won't be a role for me there.

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Speaker 4: They'll be up to whoever's running it, and Don McKinnon's

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Speaker 3: Ahead, Heather, But the no brainer, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So why wouldn't we What is the hold up? Why

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Speaker 4: Look, look, we need to respect New Zealand Cricket and

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Speaker 4: We our position's pretty clear. The players have been pushing

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Speaker 5: Not just cricket and New Zealand. So we're passionate about it.

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Speaker 4: We hope that that's the decision that New Zealand Cricket

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Speaker 5: Hopefully it won't be me either.

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Speaker 3: Is it true that Brendan McCallum may come back and

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Speaker 4: I have no idea Brendan McCullum is he's aware of

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Speaker 4: I do know that there is significant interest from overseas

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Speaker 4: Significant it's blow me away actually yeah, and so I

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Speaker 3: Brilliant, Heath Lissen, go well and thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your time. Look after yourself. That's Heath Mills, New

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Speaker 3: would you be okay with it? Because if it goes

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Speaker 3: I would be okay with my city council using some

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Speaker 3: because I think that that thing's going to go off.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 3: By the way, just what I was saying about Western

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Speaker 3: Australia and then running out of diesel in the rural areas.

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Speaker 3: Reason being, it's the panic buying from the townies. The

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Speaker 3: problem is the farmers actually, like, come on, everybody knows this.

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Speaker 3: A farmer needs diesel, right, So the farmers need diesel.

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Speaker 3: some cases they've got maybe ten days worth. Trouble is,

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Speaker 6: I invented a drink once called diesel, a brandy balloon

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Speaker 6: They're just bombing them. It's different carpet bombing, bombing. They're throwing,

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Speaker 6: But what really matters is us, who are we going

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the Hard questions. It's the Mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 8: To feel that she was real and the prices are

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Speaker 7: I think New Zealand was.

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Speaker 1: Hard questions strong opinion heither dup the ell and drive

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Speaker 3: Hither the local automotive shop is selling empty eighty liter

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Speaker 3: Feel so sorry I for Swarbrick in this instance. The

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicylan Drive with one New Zealand coverage like

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Speaker 2: News Talks. They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Say was really interesting. Is Craig's investment partners weighing into

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Speaker 3: this business? About any new Zealand cutting flights. They reckon

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Speaker 3: So what they're basically doing is they fly fewer planes,

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Speaker 3: Olds are standing by right now and Barrisop is only

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Iran has claimed responsibility for an attack on two oil

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Speaker 3: tankers in Iraqi waters. Three ships have also been attacked

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Speaker 10: These are jet skis, sometimes packed with explosives, suicide attack.

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Speaker 10: The coach so dispersed deliberately to be half to strike.

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Speaker 3: American Australian American software company at Lassion has cut ten

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Speaker 11: I am deeply sorry for the disruption this creates in

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Speaker 5: I want to say thank you for all of those contributions.

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Speaker 11: Your work will live on in our products, in the

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Speaker 3: It sounds like he replaced himself with AI. And finally,

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Speaker 1: Blue International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 3: You're going to be mean to him for that. But honestly,

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Speaker 12: I wash every new thing, even underpants, socks. I wash

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Speaker 12: everything that's new before I ever wear it. Why, well,

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Speaker 12: I don't want to have I don't want to wake up.

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Speaker 12: But he blew from head to toe because I haven't

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean maybe, no, No, it's I think it's

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Speaker 3: Because they've got all that bad chemical in them. You

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Speaker 13: Mate.

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Speaker 12: The thing is, look what's inside the clothing. It's never

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Speaker 12: I don't give a bugger anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's true as well. Now what do you

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Speaker 12: Well, a new broom, that's for sure, from Membory. Now

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Speaker 12: I should have looked this up. I think he's forty five,

439
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Speaker 12: been around for a while well, very conservative. Lost the

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Speaker 12: leadership ballot for the Nationals Party to David Little Proud.

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Speaker 12: He was just hopeless. He was just a dreadful leader.

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Speaker 12: And he stood up there the other day crying at

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Speaker 12: his resignation saying, oh I've done this, I've done that.

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Speaker 12: He is just an absolute skid mark on the underpants

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Speaker 12: of the National Party. He was Matt Canavan, on the

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Speaker 12: other hand, brand new breath of fresh air. Very conservatives,

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Speaker 12: I say, ex chief of staff to Barnaby Joyce. He

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Speaker 12: was the guy who was driving the coalition to rejecting

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Speaker 12: the Paris Agreement, to rejecting net zero by twenty fifty.

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Speaker 12: He wants new coal fired power stations in Australia to

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Speaker 12: transition to nuclear power. He wants more babies. I think

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Speaker 12: he's got five children himselves. Wants more manufacturing. And I'll

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Speaker 12: tell you what he's doing. He's challenging Pauline Hanson. They

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Speaker 12: both come from Queenslander, both in the Senate, and she

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Speaker 12: was very quick out of the blocks when he slapped hands.

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Speaker 12: And by having no policy apart from negative, narrow racist policies. Oh,

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Speaker 12: there's no such thing as a good Muslim. He gave

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Speaker 12: her a backhander for that. Ah, Matt Canavan, you just

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Speaker 12: another woke lefty you know. Hello, he's far from left.

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Speaker 12: You know she's accused of of being all these things.

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Speaker 12: Canavan is a straight, STRAIGHTI one eighty. He is a

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Speaker 12: right winger and he's going to compliment the Liberal leader

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Speaker 12: and Angus Taylor, who's much more than a moderate compared

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Speaker 12: to Matt Canavan. He's also young and he doesn't mind

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Speaker 12: calling a spader shovel. It's going to be fascinating how

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Speaker 12: that when the Pharaoh by election and Susan Lee's old

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Speaker 12: seat goes to the polls in early May, he's got

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Speaker 12: a chance of maybe lifting up that National Party vote.

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Speaker 12: Right now, it looks a contest between Pauline Hanson's One

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Speaker 12: Nation and that very popular independent down there.

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Speaker 3: Now, tell me what you think of him, muz, because

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Speaker 3: if you follow what people are saying about right wing politics,

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Speaker 3: they say right wing politics has shifted to the right.

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Speaker 3: You need people who will call a spade a spade.

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Speaker 3: You need people who are more on their positions. Is

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Speaker 3: he going to be like are people going to like

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Speaker 3: him enough? Is he really going to be popular?

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Speaker 14: Look?

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Speaker 12: I think he will be to that sort of rump. Look,

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Speaker 12: I honestly think you and I have discussed as the book.

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Speaker 12: I think Pauline Hanson's popularity is completely ephemeral. As soon

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Speaker 12: as we go into the ballot box, no one's going

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Speaker 12: to vote for She's got nothing to say about anything.

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Speaker 12: What people are flocking to her for is a protest vote.

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Speaker 12: If the Nationals and the Liberal Party over here, it's

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Speaker 12: like a National Party in New Zealand, they're the conservative

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Speaker 12: side of politics. They've been in complete disarray, fighting over

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Speaker 12: each other like weasels in a sack. If they can

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Speaker 12: put together, with the two new leaders, a coherent suite

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Speaker 12: of policies, you know, lower migration, let's have more productivity,

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Speaker 12: let's look at ways of boosting the economy. Let's look

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Speaker 12: at building stuff in Australia again. I reckon the votes

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Speaker 12: are going to flock back from Pauline Hansen back to

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Speaker 12: the conservative side of Australian politics. She's got nothing to offer,

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Speaker 12: whereas people of substance like this guy Matt Canavan. You

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Speaker 12: might not like what he says, but he says it

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Speaker 12: with conviction, and he's an economist. That was his background.

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Speaker 12: He was a trained economist, so he knows what he's

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Speaker 12: talking about. Yes, whether you like what he's saying is different,

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Speaker 12: but he knows what he's saying. And people I think

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Speaker 12: will come back to listen to a guy like him,

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Speaker 12: not like Pauling Hands. And there's no good Muslims. Don't

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Speaker 12: be so stupid, lady. Of course they are good. Look

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Speaker 12: at the guy at Bondo Beach last time I checked.

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Speaker 12: He was a Muslim for God's sake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a fair point from you, Mozz. Thanks man.

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Speaker 3: Look after yourself and wear your clothes. Well that's Murray

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Speaker 3: Old's Australia Correspondents seventeen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for Sea Ellen.

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Speaker 3: When I buy new clothes, Heather, I wear them straight

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Speaker 3: out of the store. Meto, Oh you put them on

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Speaker 3: in the store shorn Ah. Sometimes I do that as well.

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Speaker 3: That is weird. It's when you when you buy something

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Speaker 3: you like, it's better than what I'm wearing right now,

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Speaker 3: and then you put your old gear and they find

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Speaker 3: it weird having to take that tag off you while

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Speaker 3: you've got the shirt on. But frankly, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm the one with the money here, so

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Speaker 3: I'm the one paying twenty dollars for the shirt. Take

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Speaker 3: the tag off now. I need you to adjudicate something

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Speaker 3: for me, Okay. Emily Rights versus Chelsea Winter. Chelsea Winter

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Speaker 3: is the one from Celebrity Master Chef and Emily Rights

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Speaker 3: is from Wellington, and she writes brilliant stuff about being

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Speaker 3: a mum. Do I have time? I don't think I

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Speaker 3: have time. I don't got time. Hang on to after

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Speaker 3: Barry and I'm going to read you. I want you.

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Speaker 3: It's basically it's a catfight, and I want you to

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Speaker 3: adjudicate for me who which team you're on, and then

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Speaker 3: then we'll talk about it a little bit later on

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Speaker 3: heither before you interview, Next time you interview Nickel from

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Speaker 3: here in New Zealand. Ask him why they insist on

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Speaker 3: flogging this lamee soon to be dead a horse of

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Speaker 3: a JFK flight so on to New York. It burns

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Speaker 3: a mind boggling amount of fuel with a half empty

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Speaker 3: plane to carry all that fuel while they're canceling regional

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Speaker 3: and domestic services. Who are we serving here? Not the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand public but a vanity project, well said Barry Soapers.

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Speaker 3: Next sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: The TeX's already coming in hither. I'm on Chelsea Winter side.

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Speaker 3: Here the Chelsea Winter takes herself way too seriously. I

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Speaker 3: vote for the funny ones. Stand by, wait till I

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Speaker 3: tell you what happened, then you can vote. Thirteen Away

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Speaker 3: from five. Barry Soper, Senior Political correspondence with us Ello Berry.

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Speaker 13: Good afternoon, Heather, never heard of it? Who Chelsea Winter?

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Speaker 3: What about? Emily writes, no, no, my cap. But that's

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Speaker 3: that probably says more about you.

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Speaker 13: So I thought about. What's something like that? Here?

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Speaker 3: Government's defended its record with Mardy. What's happened?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, Labour's Willie Jackson as he's wont to do.

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Speaker 13: Was on the war path in Parliament this afternoon having

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Speaker 13: a go at the Minister for Maldy Development, Tama Portaka,

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Speaker 13: who I've got to say was in fine form. Jackson

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Speaker 13: was citing how Maldy had been suffering at the hands

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Speaker 13: of this government, which saw Portaka ticking off, how Maori

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Speaker 13: have actually benefited under the government policies, and then this we.

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Speaker 15: Don't speak from the podium of truth, must have speaker, but.

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Speaker 16: From the crucible of outcomes, mister speaker, Speaker, the tracks,

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Speaker 16: Thank you, mister speaker.

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Speaker 17: Does the minister accept that is track record in terms

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Speaker 17: of cutting Marty and targeted funding in areas like Marty housing,

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Speaker 17: Marty broadcasting and Marty trade training has resulted in a

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Speaker 17: record ten year high of Marty unemployment.

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Speaker 15: Yes, we have inherited the fiscal cliff and Brdy broadcasting

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Speaker 15: that the member who asked a question have left us.

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Speaker 13: So it was fine for WILLI. I think he got

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Speaker 13: more than a baggain for me because Poltucker is normally

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Speaker 13: philly mild manner.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he had to go away and google

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Speaker 3: the meaning of crucible?

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Speaker 18: Is it doing?

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Speaker 3: Actually, I'm not gonna lie. Got me back all right,

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Speaker 3: So Labour's in trouble, day two, day three, whatever it

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Speaker 3: is now for keeping the public in the dark.

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Speaker 13: M yeah, well look there was further clarification on why

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Speaker 13: information identified by the Royal Commission into COVID about the

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Speaker 13: dangers of requiring are under eighteen year olds to have

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Speaker 13: two COVID vaccines before they were allowed to go to work.

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Speaker 13: It was hammered out again in Parliament this afternoon. The

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Speaker 13: targets were the same the ministers who were briefed on

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Speaker 13: the dangers Labour's Chrisippians and the Health Minister at the

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Speaker 13: time Asheverral New Zealand first Winston Peters and was firing

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Speaker 13: the shots through the Health Minister Symbian Brown and got

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Speaker 13: what he wanted dabolisten.

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Speaker 19: The Royal Commission found that Honorable Chris Hipkins was informed

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Speaker 19: of the COVID nineteen vaccine Technical Advisory Groups concerns and

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Speaker 19: a briefing on twenty two December twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 19: this briefing was considered by Honorable Asia Viral on seven

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Speaker 19: January twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 20: Genos, why after more than four years has the Ministry

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Speaker 20: of Health kept it hidden and why does this briefing

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Speaker 20: not appear in the Ministry's list of briefings provided to

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Speaker 20: Minister Hipkins in December of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Point of order the Honorable Career mechanomtical.

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Speaker 9: A suggestion that a ministry kept information hidden surely as

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Speaker 9: an inference that shouldn't be allowed in a question.

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Speaker 19: Well, I'm not aware of why this briefing was not

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Speaker 19: publicly released. That would be a question for the Ministry

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Speaker 19: of Health or Honorable Chris Hipkins.

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Speaker 13: That person, of course he's always yelling out, is none

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Speaker 13: other than Shane Jones. I mean, it's quite funny.

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Speaker 3: Right, So is Coper King going to stay with the

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Speaker 3: Maori Party or not?

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Speaker 13: Well, that's actually a very good question hither because she

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Speaker 13: was repatriated this week into the Maori Party. I saw

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Speaker 13: her in Parliament this afternoon though, sitting with Takuta Ferris,

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Speaker 13: who hasn't taken any action about his expulsion, so he's

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Speaker 13: now the only independent MP in Parliament. She says of

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Speaker 13: the High Court decision, she will sit with the decision. Well,

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Speaker 13: Carpa Kimmingy may be back on the Morrow Party's team,

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Speaker 13: but if you listen to her, the team would appear

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Speaker 13: to be dysfunctional.

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Speaker 21: We in a new day and age were in Nei

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Speaker 21: MIOUDI continue to experience enduring prejudice. I was left with

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Speaker 21: one choice, and that was to call it out in

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Speaker 21: one of the highest levels I could. When Chikunga was

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Speaker 21: blatantly ignored. The court made it very clear there was

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Speaker 21: no evidence to support allegations that I misused funds or

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Speaker 21: bought the party into distribute. It also confirmed that the

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Speaker 21: fat sheet distributed last October, which made serious allegations against

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Speaker 21: one of my children stated quote regrettably did not record facts.

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Speaker 21: Our people want a movement that is reflective of Madi

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Speaker 21: hearts and minds. The question remains whether the Party Maori

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Speaker 21: can be trusted by mid or hair while no changes

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Speaker 21: have been made and the capability of the party beyond

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Speaker 21: this term is debated amongst to Emi Miudi.

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Speaker 13: You'd imagine now what's going to happen in the Maori

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Speaker 13: party because really Kapa Kingi years after John Tammahadi, who

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Speaker 13: of course is the president of the party, and there's

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Speaker 13: no love lost of course between the co leaders of

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Speaker 13: the party either in Kappa Kingi. So look, I can't

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Speaker 13: see this panning out very nicely and in fact, just

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Speaker 13: before an election where they could be the third coalition

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Speaker 13: party if Labor gets enough numbers. I think you know

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Speaker 13: they've still got a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Reparation to do to right, Barry, thanks very much, Barry Soper,

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Speaker 3: Senior political correspondent, eight away from five, Heather, I just

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Speaker 3: searched a few Auckland to New York flights next week.

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Speaker 3: For example, two flights of six seats in economy with

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Speaker 3: business and premium full. Another had twenty in economy left

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Speaker 3: and both premium business fuls. So to say the flights

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Speaker 3: are going half full is not true. Lindsey, thank you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: here we go. You adjudicate, you decide who are you

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Speaker 3: on Team Chelsea or team Emily. So Chelsea Winter puts

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Speaker 3: on her social media it's very popular on social media.

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Speaker 3: She puts on her social media her personal morning routine,

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Speaker 3: and Emily writes pokesfunded the morning routine. Is this a

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Speaker 3: pretty typical weekday rhythm for me? Lately five point thirty

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Speaker 3: am my sunrise clock wakes me. Brackets can't do alarms,

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Speaker 3: visualization plus gratitude, connecting in and setting the tone for

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Speaker 3: the day, while coconut oil pulling. I don't know electrolytes

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Speaker 3: and intention infused water brackets. I rest paper with my

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Speaker 3: written intentions over the water overnight, then typically eat a

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Speaker 3: boiled egg, single boiled egg that's intended to protect her

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Speaker 3: quartizole levels before she meditates, affirms, and invokes. Then she

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Speaker 3: goes outside for some light stretching, some morning sunlight and grounding,

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Speaker 3: followed by a full body dry brushing and facial massage

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Speaker 3: before ten minutes rebounding. I'm figuring this is all in

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Speaker 3: the time available before the two children wake up, because otherwise, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that. Anyway, that happened

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Speaker 3: on Thursday, Monday, Emily writes, decides to give it a go.

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Speaker 3: She takes the mickey Chelsea Winter can't do alarms.

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Speaker 18: Fair.

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Speaker 3: I've never needed one either, because I have a child

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Speaker 3: who wakes at dawn. Instead of a sunrise clock, which

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Speaker 3: creates a soothing sunrise simulation, I relied on my children. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: my sunrise simulation started at midnight when my son's blood

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Speaker 3: glucose alarm went off. I treated the high, went back

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Speaker 3: to bed. It went off again. I corrected it again.

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Speaker 3: Then he went low. So I gave him juice and

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Speaker 3: waited beside his bed, and then my youngest needed the toilet.

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Speaker 3: I tried to visualize Alexander Scar's guard carrying me out

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Speaker 3: of my house, straight into a car and off to

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Speaker 3: the airport where there's a private jet waiting to fly

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Speaker 3: us to one of those islands with huts over the water.

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Speaker 3: I try to visualize him saying, OMG, you're so hot, Emily.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to redacted your redacted on your redacted with

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Speaker 3: your redacted ha ha. Time for breakfast. One single egg.

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Speaker 3: I eat the egg. I'm still hungry. Now. I can't

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Speaker 3: believe this, but this thing has blown up. It's in

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Speaker 3: the Herald. The ladies are upset about it. They are

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Speaker 3: trying to be chilled, but Emily's not happy it's in

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Speaker 3: the Herald, and Chelsea's unhappy that Emily's taken the mix.

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Speaker 3: So whose side are you on?

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Speaker 22: Here? Are you on?

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Speaker 3: Chelsea? My life is perfect? Or Emily? I'm gonna take

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Speaker 3: the mickey out of women who pretend that they lives

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Speaker 3: are perfect. Take the pulp and then we'll deal with

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Speaker 3: it shortly. Shane Jones next.

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Speaker 2: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicl and drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 1: coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 2: News talks heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. There are calls on the government to start talking

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Speaker 3: realistically about the possibility of fuel shortages in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: The government is taking advice on all options in case

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Speaker 3: our stocks dry up, and this comes as the country

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Speaker 3: today released six days worth of supply worth of fuel

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Speaker 3: to the global market to meet international obligations. Shane Jones

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Speaker 3: is the Associate Energy Minister in charge of fuel security.

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Speaker 3: High Shane greetings, good afternoon, scale of one to ten.

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Speaker 3: How likely is it that we have to ration fuel

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Speaker 3: in some way?

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Speaker 18: Well, we've already identified that. One of the interventions that

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Speaker 18: we're going to get advice on is demand restraint, which

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Speaker 18: actually means ensuring that if this situation gets muchter, worse

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Speaker 18: and worse, we're going to have to look at how

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Speaker 18: we can stretch our supplies out at home. Fortunately, at

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Speaker 18: the moment we're still told by the ore companies and

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Speaker 18: the officials there's fifty days both on the water and

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Speaker 18: in the country.

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Speaker 3: What are your options for demand restraint?

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Speaker 18: Well, one thing that we're going to have to look

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Speaker 18: at is whether or not we change the characteristics of

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Speaker 18: the type of fuel that we bring into New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: That would possibly broaden the sources from which we get

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Speaker 18: the fuel. I don't want to sound too pointy headed,

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Speaker 18: but fuel has quite exacting characteristics when it comes into

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Speaker 18: the country. Now, that's one thing that we could probably

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Speaker 18: find other places to draw fuel from. Number Two, we'll

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Speaker 18: dust off what the options have been in the past.

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Speaker 18: And obviously I had the High Commission from Australia into

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Speaker 18: my office yesterday and he and his people and the

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Speaker 18: Wellington bureaucrats along with the Foreign Affairs working very closely

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Speaker 18: with the Aussies because we're going to have to hang

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Speaker 18: very tight to them in the event that there is

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Speaker 18: a set of scarcity problems for us, both in Australia

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Speaker 18: and New Zealand. There are closest neighbors, there are closest allies.

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Speaker 3: Are you seriously considering Carlos days.

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Speaker 18: No, it's too early to identify any specific intervention. I

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Speaker 18: mean perhaps there's thing's all over in a week, who knows, But.

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Speaker 3: Are taking advice on it if you're not seriously considering.

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Speaker 18: It, well, No, Kiwis expect their government to be proactive.

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Speaker 18: Kiwis expect us to deal with the fact that other

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Speaker 18: countries are holding their fuel, they're introducing export restrictions. So

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Speaker 18: what we need to do is ensure that we've exhaustively

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Speaker 18: looked at every option. So if things do deteriorate and

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Speaker 18: we make decisions, they're made on the basis of quality information,

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Speaker 18: not some grasshoper attitude.

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Speaker 3: Listen have you, I mean, how do you feel about

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Speaker 3: the fact that Western Australia has run out of diesel

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Speaker 3: in rural areas?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Well, my message to kiwis obviously is that look, we

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Speaker 18: do have adequate supplies of fuel, but then I've got

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Speaker 18: no shortage of other people fearful that if we don't

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Speaker 18: have a contingency plan we'll get caught on the hop

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Speaker 18: Those areas where there has been a run on fuel

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Speaker 18: are very isolated areas and we don't quite have the

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Speaker 18: same topography or isolation, such as Carnaverine and Geralton.

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Speaker 3: Okay, half of the oil, half of the fuel that

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Speaker 3: we have is apparently still on the water. How sure

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Speaker 3: are you those ships are not going to get diverted?

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Speaker 18: Well, you ask a damn good question. We rely on

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Speaker 18: the quality of the contracts, the enforceability of the contracts

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Speaker 18: with the oil companies are.

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Speaker 24: Going to remind everyone on your program.

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Speaker 18: The oil companies move New Zealand to are just entire

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Speaker 18: time model. And the labor government approved of the closure

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Speaker 18: of the refinery. That's why we are where we are.

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Speaker 18: There's three hundred and fifty million liters of spare storage

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Speaker 18: capacity that was closed down when the refinery was decommissioned.

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Speaker 18: And keys have got to wake up here when we

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Speaker 18: have these challenges of resilience and these decisions that were

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Speaker 18: made and some sort of gratification of New Zealand's climate ideology,

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Speaker 18: these are the costs that we didn't see coming, although

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Speaker 18: Winston and I argued against it in the past.

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Speaker 3: Shane listen, thanks very much for your time as we

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Speaker 3: was Shane Jones, Associate Energy Minister in charge of Fuel

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Speaker 3: Security eleven past five. Ever due for the outline that subject.

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Speaker 3: Regional mayors are worrying after news that Air New Zealand

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Speaker 3: is cutting oney one hundred flights because of the spike

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Speaker 3: and the jet fuel prices. No routes themselves have been

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Speaker 3: cut yet, but some will not get as many flights

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Speaker 3: as they do at the moment. Kat O'Brien is the

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Speaker 3: executive director of the Board of Airline Representatives and with

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Speaker 3: us Hi kat Hi Heather, Now, what's worrying the mayors

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Speaker 3: as the possible ability that any flights that are cut

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Speaker 3: will not be restored. Do you think that they are

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Speaker 3: right to be worried?

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Speaker 23: Look, I think what I understand from in New Zealand

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Speaker 23: is that this is a temporary response to what we

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Speaker 23: all hope is a temporary extreme spike and jet fuel prices.

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Speaker 23: So I think that at this stage we're just looking

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Speaker 23: at a temporary response.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Craig's investment, When does it not become a temporary response?

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Speaker 23: CAF Well, I think Shane has similar concerns, right Master

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Speaker 23: Jones has got the same question, and I think, you know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 23: airlines are very familiar with jet fuel allocation when we

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Speaker 23: have jet fuel shortage, and we have responded to those

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Speaker 23: situations in the past recent years, and so I hope

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Speaker 23: that we don't find ourselves in that position. But if

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Speaker 23: we do, you know, there'll be more trouble at Melone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Craig's investment partner says they can't understand why flights

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Speaker 3: are being cut given that aircraft are eighty five percent full.

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Speaker 23: I think that my understanding is that the flights that

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Speaker 23: have been consolidated, which means that you know, essentially they're

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Speaker 23: moving two into one, that sort of thing off peak services,

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Speaker 23: so they will not be eighty five percent full. And

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Speaker 23: also if they were, you'd have a whole huge number

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Speaker 23: of customers unable to travel because if you try to

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Speaker 23: join two into one and they were both full, then

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Speaker 23: they wouldn't work, right. So I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 23: I think we're talking about off peak services that are

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Speaker 23: already not particularly well patronized, and then those are being

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Speaker 23: consolidated where they can be to essentially be really efficient

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Speaker 23: with a really expensive product.

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Speaker 3: Is Jetstar do you think likely to do the same

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Speaker 3: thing or not because they have so few flights already.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, They've got a totally different network in New Zealand

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Speaker 23: is operating a regional network that goes much greater geographic

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Speaker 23: distance to many more ports, and they have a wholly

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Speaker 23: different problem than Jet Star, which is operating trunk services

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Speaker 23: using jets only.

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Speaker 3: Cath It's good to talk to you always is a

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Speaker 3: Cath O'Brien Board of Airline Representatives Executive.

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Speaker 2: Director Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 3: So the word is that the government is going to

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Speaker 3: overhaul the dog laws after all, possibly in the next

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Speaker 3: be some good news on the way, right, Lord of

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Speaker 22: And even though there's no shortage of Lord of the

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Speaker 22: Rings material out there, it's still, relatively speaking, still feels

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Speaker 22: rather under exploited, if that's a word we can use.

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Speaker 22: And also I think that there's still a huge amount

871
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Speaker 22: of goodwill on the audience's side for this franchise. In fact,

872
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Speaker 22: every year that passes that original trilogy just seems better

873
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Speaker 22: and better because we're now realizing that it was the

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Speaker 22: last gasp of a kind of tangible, practical form of

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Speaker 22: blockbuster filmmaking that will probably never be mounted again, including

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Speaker 22: in this new one where you know, the Hobbit films

877
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Speaker 22: are a lot more digital than the original trilogy, but

878
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Speaker 22: just the fact that they built all that armor and

879
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Speaker 22: got the Alvin Kloe folks and all that kind of thing.

880
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Speaker 22: I think people are just have so much good will

881
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Speaker 22: with that franchise as part of you know, as partly

882
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Speaker 22: as a result of that that tangibility.

883
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Speaker 3: So is there a chance that this, to Lord, I'm

884
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Speaker 3: probably going out on a limb here, Dominic. Is there

885
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Speaker 3: a chance that turns into something like the Marvel universe

886
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Speaker 3: or you know, any of the DC universe where you

887
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Speaker 3: just have all these off spinning stories that go on

888
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Speaker 3: for decades.

889
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Speaker 2: There's a strong chance of that.

890
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Speaker 22: In fact, I'm concerned that that is the case a few.

891
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Speaker 25: Years ago, because it devalues the integrity of the property,

892
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Speaker 25: and market forces demand this kind of project, and you

893
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Speaker 25: could That's why I said, the sort of an appetite

894
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Speaker 25: from all angles.

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Speaker 22: It's been a long time since we had a live

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Speaker 22: action Lord of the Rings movie. People don't be seen

897
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Speaker 22: to be paying a huge amount of attention to that

898
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Speaker 22: TV show. So a Peter Jing Peter Jackson associated Rings

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Speaker 22: project would generate a lot of excitement, I think, But

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Speaker 22: we haven't, as I said, we haven't run it into

901
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Speaker 22: the ground yet. But also a couple of years ago,

902
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Speaker 22: there was this animated film, The War of the Row

903
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Speaker 22: herem Or a year ago, and I understand. Part of

904
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Speaker 22: the reason that was made is that when you make

905
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Speaker 22: a deal for these characters and these intellectual property rights,

906
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Speaker 22: you have to make a film every certain number of

907
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Speaker 22: years to maintain them. And I gather that was not

908
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Speaker 22: the official reason, but I gether that's partly why that

909
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Speaker 22: animated film exists, and so they can't sort of sit

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Speaker 22: around on their hands for too long. They kind of

911
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Speaker 22: got to get someone going to maintain the ownership.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, Dominic, thanks for that. I'm glad. I'm

913
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Speaker 3: glad that. Well, I was just going to say, I'm

914
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Speaker 3: glad that you sound happy about it, but you don't,

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Speaker 3: actually Dominic Corey film Reviewer, Well, I tell you what

916
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Speaker 3: I'm glad about. I'm glad that I actually nailed it

917
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Speaker 3: with my question because I thought Jesus is going to

918
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Speaker 3: come off real stupid in a minute, isn't it. But

919
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Speaker 3: then it wasn't as stupid. Now apparently not as stupid

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Speaker 3: the Hunt for Gollum Apparently if you're like, where does

921
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Speaker 3: this fit into, then there's seventeen years between Bilbo's birthday

922
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Speaker 3: party and frod early the shire it happens. Then also

923
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Speaker 3: follow up question which I should have asked Dominic and

924
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Speaker 3: didn't was how the hell do you make Elijah Wood

925
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Speaker 3: look like he's a kid again? He's like fifty years

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Speaker 3: old now, but he needs to go back to looking

927
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Speaker 3: like that. So anyway, I look forward to seeing how

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Speaker 3: that works. Five twenty two, The day's newsmakers talk to

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Speaker 3: Heather First, Heather du.

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Speaker 1: For Sellen Drive with One New Zealand and the Power

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Speaker 1: of satellite Mobile News Doorg SAIV.

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Speaker 3: Heather, there's definitely an appetite for more Lord of the Rings.

933
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Speaker 3: We walk them out town Belt most days and there's

934
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Speaker 3: hordes of tourists still turning up in buses to see

935
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Speaker 3: the locations used in the filming. Andrew, thank you. Five

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Speaker 3: twenty four. Now, yesterday I told you I thought that

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Speaker 3: Brian Roch's movery the primary teacher's pay was brilliant. So

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Speaker 3: let me tell you what I think of the union's

939
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Speaker 3: response to that. I am honestly not sure that the

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Speaker 3: NZDI could have stuffed this up more badly than they

941
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Speaker 3: did by threatening legal action. Let's understand what this legal

942
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Speaker 3: action most likely is. Apparently it's an injunction to stop

943
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Speaker 3: the government offering a pay rise to non union teacher.

944
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Speaker 3: Is at least that's what PC thinks. It is a

945
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Speaker 3: legal an injunction to stop a pay rise to non

946
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Speaker 3: union teachers. So what that means is the union is

947
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Speaker 3: now not only holding up the pay negotiations for their

948
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Speaker 3: own member teachers by quibbling over the Treaty of Whiteitungian

949
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Speaker 3: and over overnight camp allowances into the ninth month of negotiations,

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Speaker 3: but they are now also trying to stop the government

951
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Speaker 3: paying other teachers more, which is the exact opposite of

952
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Speaker 3: what a union's entire purpose should be, which is to

953
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Speaker 3: lift pay. It is quite strange to see a union

954
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Speaker 3: try to stop anyone, even non union members, from getting

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Speaker 3: paid more.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a real problem for a union

958
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Speaker 3: that clearly already has problems. I don't know about you,

959
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Speaker 3: but it surprised me to see that there were ten

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Speaker 3: thousand primary teachers, which is thirty percent of the workforce,

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Speaker 3: who are not unionized. I assumed the strength of the

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Speaker 3: teaching unions would be greater than that. I assumed more

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Speaker 3: teachers would be in the unions. Maybe that was naivity

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Speaker 3: on my part, because I suppose, when you think about it,

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Speaker 3: what's the point in being unionized and teaching nowadays? If

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Speaker 3: you're not a union member, you will get the same

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Speaker 3: pay and negotiations and paying conditions that they negotiate. You

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Speaker 3: just don't have to pay them a fee. And if

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Speaker 3: teachers needed any other reason to not join the union,

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Speaker 3: they just got one. Yesterday when the NZDY, I completely

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Speaker 3: lost the plot and forgot what it was there to do,

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Speaker 3: which is to negotiate pay increases, not to stop pay increases.

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Speaker 2: Heather Doopers the al incidentally.

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Speaker 3: Dale with us straight after the news right here, texts Heather,

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Speaker 3: no disrespect to Chelsea, but Emily sounds like someone with

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Speaker 3: a real life and I laughed my head off. Heither

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Speaker 3: Emily is relatable, Chelsea is insufferable. Heither Chelsea is allowed

978
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Speaker 3: to have a positive life Outlook good on her, Heather, Ah,

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Speaker 3: this is so gratifying. Chelsea inhabits a parallel universe. She

980
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Speaker 3: is deluded and self important and it's nauseating. Heather, Chelsea's

981
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Speaker 3: on the crazy hot scale. The other chick is just normal.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 18: Gary.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that Chelsea is trying to be New Zealand's Gwyneth

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Speaker 3: Paltrow and we Shealers ain't buying at I'm with Emily.

986
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Speaker 3: Hither I'm with Emily. If you're gonna publicly post that

987
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Speaker 3: kind of nonsense, you can expect some mocking. And it

988
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Speaker 3: goes on either I'm milk cows each morning. Some definitely

989
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Speaker 3: did not rise at five point thirty on Thursday morning.

990
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Speaker 3: It's March. Now, I'm I'm gonna vast majority, vast, vast

991
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Speaker 3: vast majority team Emily Hire and I'm gonna say I'm

992
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Speaker 3: team Emily as well. Emily does lean a little too

993
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Speaker 3: hard into life is miserable and children are hard. But

994
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Speaker 3: then again, you know children are quite hard, so she's

995
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Speaker 3: she's only leaning into something that's true. And I think

996
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Speaker 3: Emily's outlook helps some mums to get through. I don't

997
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Speaker 3: think any mum out there is helped by Chelsea pretending

998
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Speaker 3: that she's got she's got a down pat like that.

999
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Speaker 3: That's just a flex and it's not cool. News is next.

1000
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Speaker 2: The name you trumped to get the answers you need.

1001
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Speaker 1: It's hell duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage

1002
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Speaker 1: like no one else used talk there'd Ben.

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Speaker 3: S me, Okay, look, I I am in two minds

1004
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Speaker 3: about that. A thing has popped up about Justinda in

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Speaker 3: the Australian Financial Review, and I am in two minds

1006
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Speaker 3: about whether I tell you, will not because now I've

1007
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Speaker 3: said it, now you want to know, and so I

1008
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Speaker 3: can tell you, But then she is occupying an unreasonable

1009
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Speaker 3: amount of space in this program of late. But then

1010
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Speaker 3: again that's because of the COVID report. So I can

1011
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Speaker 3: see what I'm kind of like, Shall I tell you all?

1012
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Speaker 18: Shall I not?

1013
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: It might ruin your day. So I'm just going to

1014
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Speaker 3: put that under my keyboard and I think about it

1015
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: for twenty minutes, and then I might have to tell you.

1016
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Speaker 3: Huddles standing by. We have Sam Thomas Scrimger and Mark

1017
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Speaker 3: Sainsbury with us this evening. Right now, it's twenty four

1018
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Speaker 3: away from six. Now let's talk about what's going on

1019
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: with the unions. The Primary Teachers' Union has threatened urgent

1020
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: legal action after yesterday's announcement from the Public Service Commission.

1021
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: Brian Roach told us yesterday he's offering pay rises of

1022
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: up to four point seven percent to non union teachers,

1023
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Speaker 3: despite the fact that negotiations with the union is still ongoing.

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Speaker 26: We did this after careful consideration and on the basis

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Speaker 26: of equity between two categories of teachers. The unionized and

1026
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Speaker 26: we're fully engaged with them and the non unionized group.

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Speaker 26: The two are separate and distinct and that's how I

1028
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Speaker 26: view them.

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Speaker 3: Liam Rutherford is the NZDI teacher leader and he is

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Speaker 3: with us. Now, Hi, Liam Cuder here the great to

1031
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: be there. Thanks for joining us, mate. Listen, have you

1032
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Speaker 3: filed the legal action yet?

1033
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Speaker 27: Yeah, so we have filed legal action to bring about

1034
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Speaker 27: urge of facilitation, which I mean it's something that we

1035
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Speaker 27: shouldn't have to do. I mean, there should be some

1036
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Speaker 27: willingness from the government to come to the table around facilitation.

1037
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Speaker 27: And it's a shame that yesterday's announcement has gotten in

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Speaker 27: the way.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that facilitation something you did last week?

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Speaker 27: Notes, so we had mediated bargaining. Facilitation is a bit

1041
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Speaker 27: of a step up where both sides present their presentations

1042
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Speaker 27: to a third party who writes an opinion as to

1043
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Speaker 27: what should happen. It isn't an uncommon thing when you

1044
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Speaker 27: do get to a challenging part of bargaining, and that's

1045
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Speaker 27: what we're wanting to do with the Ministry of Education.

1046
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Speaker 18: Now.

1047
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So when Brian Roach told us that he believed

1048
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Speaker 3: it was an injunction, you were filing. It's not an injunction.

1049
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 7: No, that's right.

1050
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Speaker 3: You are not trying to prevent non union teachers from

1051
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: getting a pay rise.

1052
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 27: No, we are incredibly frustrated and angry with the timing

1053
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 27: of the move. This is a break from decades of

1054
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Speaker 27: tradition where we settle the collective agreement and the features

1055
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Speaker 27: that aren't members of the union get that passed on

1056
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Speaker 27: through an IA. The challenge, and I think the frustration

1057
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Speaker 27: and anger that we've heard from teachers over the last

1058
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Speaker 27: twenty four hours is that they're now going to be

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Speaker 27: sitting in staff rooms where you've got some haves and

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Speaker 27: some have nots. And given the kind of collegial and

1061
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Speaker 27: collaborative nature of teaching, that's where people's anger and frustration

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Speaker 27: comes from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I mean there is already frustration I'd imagine

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Speaker 3: in staff rooms, don't you think where some of the teachers,

1065
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Speaker 3: being on the individual agree's waiting for this union stuff

1066
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Speaker 3: to be wrapped up. We'll be feeling a little grumpy

1067
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Speaker 3: at union members for the fact that it's being held

1068
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Speaker 3: up for so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 27: We kind of hear two different things around that. One

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Speaker 27: is that this isn't a break from tradition. This is

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Speaker 27: how things have always worked, and so it is a

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Speaker 27: normal within the education system up until now. But what

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Speaker 27: we're really hearing from teachers, and in the last twenty

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Speaker 27: four hours it's been nuts, is that there's frustration that

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Speaker 27: we're now having to deal with offers that actually aren't

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Speaker 27: going to address the issues going on. Primary teachers in

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Speaker 27: this round of bargaining put a great deal of intent

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Speaker 27: behind what it is that they were asking for, because

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Speaker 27: there are genuine issues. The ministry's own data shows that

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Speaker 27: we don't have enough teachers to be able to be

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Speaker 27: able to meet the needs that we currently have, and

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Speaker 27: so the things that we're talking about through negotiations are

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Speaker 27: about how we are going to be able to attract

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00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 27: and retain teachers. And when I say retained teachers, I

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00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 27: specifically meet now experienced tea teachers, because those are the

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00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 27: ones that are going to be the ones carrying the

1088
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 27: load when it comes to implementing the government's change management

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00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 27: a gender around the new curriculum.

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Speaker 3: So is the government right in saying that thirty percent

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Speaker 3: of primary teachers are not.

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Speaker 27: Unionized technically correct, But a large group of those are

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00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 27: part time teachers or day to day relievers. If you

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00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 27: walk into any school, the overwhelming majority of full time

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00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 27: classroom teachers will be members of the union.

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Speaker 3: What is that about about eighty percent?

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Speaker 27: We don't go we don't go into specific numbers, but

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Speaker 27: yet the overwhelming majority of full time classroom teachers will

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Speaker 27: be members of the union.

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Speaker 3: How does the proportion at the moment compare to the

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 3: proportion historically because I'm surprised that the number of teachers

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00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: who are not unionized, Like.

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 27: I said, I mean the people that are typically part

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00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 27: time or day to day relievers and so actually have

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00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 27: the d do you know, I don't have the data

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Speaker 27: around whether or not the number of relievers and part

1107
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 27: time teachers are growing and totally though, we are seeing

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00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 27: a number of full time teachers maybe dropping a day

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00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 27: a week, and they cite things like like a workload

1110
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 27: and wanting to have a better work life, bad balance.

1111
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 27: And that's a real shame because that's a direct impact

1112
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 27: on the kids in those classes who are now juggling

1113
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 27: to tea teachers. But it is genuinely an issue with

1114
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 27: not enough people wanting to become teed teachers, and we

1115
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 27: seem to have an inability to hold onto them.

1116
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: All right, Liam, listen, best of luck with all of this.

1117
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, Liam, rather for the NZ

1118
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: of DEI teacher leader. It's nineteen away from.

1119
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team,

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00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: the only truly global brand.

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00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: In huddle of this has even We've got Thomas Scrimger

1122
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: of the Maximum Institute of Mark Sainsbury Broadcaster. Hell are

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: you two, Thomas? You had all worried about the possibility,

1124
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: as Audrey Young is, that we may have to start

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00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: talking about fuel shortages.

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Speaker 24: I'm not too worried about it at this stage. I mean,

1127
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 24: the prices have spiked up to day and that's already

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Speaker 24: the first step of rationing. People are going to be

1129
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 24: driving less when petrol's over three bucks elev But you know,

1130
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 24: it's certainly something that could keep coming that. You know,

1131
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 24: it's not clear how quickly the fuel crunch will resolve,

1132
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 24: and you know, we are at the fire end of

1133
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 24: the world. It's not going to be first in line

1134
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 24: for any fuel deliveries, even though hopefully fingers crossed those

1135
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 24: tankers are on their way. I cycle to work, so

1136
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 24: I'm feeling a little less stressed than some people, so

1137
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 24: cycling is patriotic, you know, do your bit for the

1138
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 24: national security and ride a bike.

1139
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, have you signed up to the Green

1140
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: Party or something?

1141
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 24: I have not signed up to the Green Party. Here though,

1142
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 24: I'll give you my pitch I cycle because I'm a

1143
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 24: recovering libertarian. There's a kind of a great deal where

1144
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 24: you can buy your bike without paying tax on it

1145
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 24: because we're saving the planet. You don't have to have

1146
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 24: a license, you don't fund hostile foreign powers. It's the

1147
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 24: libertarian's dream. Cycling should be picked up by more right wingers.

1148
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm loving the unexpected take on cycling. Okay, saying, so

1149
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: are you buying this? You're going to get into the.

1150
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 7: Cycling Well, I'm it's ying and yang on the other

1151
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 7: side of the equation. I've got a I took my

1152
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 7: car up to Auckland the other week for using a

1153
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 7: film a daughters working on and I think the fee

1154
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 7: just covered the gas. It's got a seven liter V

1155
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 7: eight and was made in nineteen sixty three, so you

1156
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 7: can imagine how efficient. So I'm already paying three bucks

1157
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 7: a leader.

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh mate, have you how many Jerry cans have you

1159
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: got out in the back full of fuel.

1160
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's weird. I mean, and of course you know,

1161
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 7: we don't have the we don't have the backstop of Marsden,

1162
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 7: which was the your company's decision. But you know, it's

1163
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 7: apparently a little bit of it.

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Speaker 3: But they got the okay from the government. So does

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: go back to the government.

1166
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 7: Well, why there's a government owners or But.

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: Apparently they didn't. They didn't pull the pin until they

1168
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: got the nod from from old mate Meghan Meghan Woods

1169
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: who shut down a whole bunch of stuff. Shut that

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: shut down that one too.

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 7: Well, I still go back to all companies there was

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 7: their asset. Wasn't a state asset if they don't want

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00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 7: to run it?

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Speaker 3: So you know, do you think though? But saying so,

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00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: is there a case in something like a strategic like

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: that you could argue that's a strategic asset, right, like

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: like in New Zealander, isn't Is there a case if

1178
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: z wants to shut it down that you as the

1179
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: state step in and you go, okay, you can do that

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Speaker 3: as a private company. We'll take it over.

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 7: And use it as a strategic Yeah, reminery, most other countries,

1182
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 7: Most other countries do it.

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: I mean, are we finding out Thomas, that we've got

1184
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: that we made a mistake.

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00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 24: Well, the problem with Marsden that it was still refining

1186
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 24: crude oil, and it's crude oil that's the problem. So

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 24: it might have been able to give us a bit

1188
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 24: more leeway, and it would have given resilience against a

1189
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 24: different kind of problem if the choke point in the

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 24: chain was refineries overseas. But if we couldn't bring crude

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 24: oil into the country, it wouldn't have made too much difference.

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Speaker 24: Here are real.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, though, Thomas, because my am understanding of it is,

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: and I might be completely wrong. My understanding is that

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: with the refined oil, it limits the places we can

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Speaker 3: get it from. With the crude oil, you can get it,

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00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: you can source it from a wider range. Thereby, if

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Speaker 3: South Korea cuts you off, it's not as big a deal.

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Speaker 24: But the problem is it's a global market, and the

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 24: problem is that prices are spiking. At the moment. You

1201
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 24: can still buy oil. It's just ludicrously expensive and we'll

1202
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 24: be for the while. So even though it gives you

1203
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 24: the wider range of places, most times that won't matter

1204
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 24: because the price tracks globally, so we can buy as

1205
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 24: much as we want Now we'll just be paying through

1206
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 24: the nose to get it.

1207
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fair point. All right, we'll take a break

1208
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: that you guys come back and just a Ticket's quarter

1209
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: two the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, a name you

1211
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the huddle, Mark Sainsbury Thomas Scrimger

1213
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: now saying, so we need to talk about the welfare

1214
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: numbers because apparently we have thirteen percent of the working

1215
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: age population on some kind of a benefit. What do

1216
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: you think of that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this is the problem, isn't it. I mean,

1218
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 7: and the government had promised to going to cut that.

1219
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 7: They've been in power two and a half years now,

1220
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 7: and I see that I still blaming the last government,

1221
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 7: which may well, I've had so contribution, but there's a

1222
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 7: point where you're going to start taking on the chin yourself.

1223
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 7: I mean, the numbers that are just exploding because jobs

1224
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 7: are disappearing. That's what happens. It's how Wellington's been the

1225
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 7: last year.

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't look I'm not an apologist for the government

1227
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: or the National Party in particular, but I mean it

1228
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 3: is hard to blame them isn't it saying so when

1229
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: you have a recession which generally causes people to go

1230
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: on the doll, which was caused by Adrian or so

1231
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: it's not the government's fault.

1232
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, then you could go back, was it Jesus's

1233
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 7: fault for creating Aden in the first place.

1234
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: It's not that ancient history. The dude was in the

1235
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: job only last year.

1236
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 7: But look, but I suppose one sign is these things

1237
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 7: are a lot harder to do when people are electioneering.

1238
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 7: We're going to be going through it all later on

1239
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 7: this year, and there's so many things. It'd be like

1240
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 7: when National launch Think Big, they did that, neither thinking

1241
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 7: they're going to come into power. Then that was stuck

1242
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 7: with it when.

1243
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Speaker 3: They were Yeah, I suppose, I mean carry on, No,

1244
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: I'm just.

1245
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 7: Going to say this is something that I sort of

1246
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 7: promised and and then you just you can't deliver. So

1247
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 7: it could be all sorts of reasons, but it's not

1248
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 7: a great look. Maybe they need to do some rebounding.

1249
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was that one of their things. I think.

1250
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: I think what it does is it kind of makes

1251
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: it does make a mockery of a promise to get

1252
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 3: people off the doll. But Thomas, the thing here is

1253
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: I just wonder if when you look at these numbers

1254
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: and you look at what's going on in the UK,

1255
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: and they're having a debate about one and ten of

1256
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: them being on the doll, if actually we've got a

1257
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: structural problem here that we need to fix, Like maybe

1258
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 3: there is something inherently wrong with the welfare system in

1259
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: that it incentivizes people to not work.

1260
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 24: Oh, I think there's definitely plenty of room to reform

1261
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 24: the system. The thing is how do we think about

1262
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 24: how do we do it better? And the government came

1263
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 24: into the election and nan to gavernment with a lot

1264
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 24: of good talk about this idea of social investments, which

1265
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 24: was supposed to think about these kind of things right,

1266
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 24: long run kind of individuals, over time, getting people into work.

1267
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 24: The problem is the government hasn't actually done anything with

1268
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 24: the idea of social investments. They set up an agency

1269
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 24: and it's kind of done some interesting you know, stats analysis,

1270
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 24: but they haven't actually done the really interesting stuff. You know,

1271
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 24: we need to have kind of performance based pay for

1272
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 24: getting people off the doll We need to kind of

1273
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 24: create opportunities and actually evaluate are we providing pathways into

1274
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 24: work rather than just complaining about people when they don't.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't have that idea. Now says, what are

1276
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: you team Emily or team Chelsea?

1277
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 7: Well, listen is almost identical to my morning routine.

1278
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1279
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 7: It's fishy. No, it's it's when I first thought I

1280
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 7: thought I thought it was I thought it was someone

1281
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 7: had done this as they're just taking the brevivial you know,

1282
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 7: So no unteam Evily.

1283
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: Are you? And what about you Thomas?

1284
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 24: Well, I'm going to not pick aside, and it's not

1285
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 24: because I think either of them are doing anything wrong.

1286
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 24: I just think both of them are cultivating an average

1287
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 24: to sell for money. You know, Chelsea Winter performs aspiration

1288
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 24: and Emily Rights performs authenticity. Neither of them do we

1289
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 24: actually know. They're writers who cultivate images, you know, as

1290
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 24: part of their personal brand, and so I think this

1291
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 24: is probably great for both of them. I'm just in

1292
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 24: it for the game. You know that both teams are going. Well,

1293
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 24: I'm in it for the sport of it, and so

1294
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 24: it's a huge success for both brands.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if you're not going to take a take

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Speaker 3: a side, can you at least attempt to explain to

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Speaker 3: me what coconut oil pulling is.

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Speaker 24: I wouldn't have the foggys what what coconut oil pulling is?

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Speaker 24: You know, to be honest, getting up at five thirty

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Speaker 24: is not really my jam either. But you know what,

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Speaker 24: I like that Chelsea Winter is doing it. It's important

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Speaker 24: to me that someone lives that great life, because I

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01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 24: don't if Chelsea Winter isn't doing that, what hope is

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Speaker 24: there for humanity? You know, it's important. It's that we

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Speaker 24: have somewhat great among us who can do such things.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 3: Just it's like it's like the Messiah living here right

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Speaker 3: now saying, so I reckon, I reckon the intention and

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Speaker 3: fee used water sounds like it could be up you rarely.

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Speaker 7: Well, although the coconut oil pulling apparently you gargle with

1311
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 7: coconut oil and we'll run it round your mouth.

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Speaker 3: Is that what she's doing here?

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Speaker 26: Is it?

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Speaker 3: You're making that up right now on the rail?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 7: No, I read the story said that the the coconut

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 7: coconut oil pulling was a thing almost like a rinsing

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Speaker 7: your mouth, like a gargle with this stuff. God knows

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Speaker 7: what it's for.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You're just You're just a treasure. You're just so full

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Speaker 3: of wow. Thank you for that. I'm going to go google.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust him. I'm going to google it so

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Speaker 3: hardle Mark Sainsbury Thomas scrim just seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sainso, wasn't lying. Coconut oil pulling is an ancient

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: practice that involves swishing edible oil in your mouth as

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Speaker 3: a complimentary oral hygiene measure. Build that in. Wake up

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Speaker 3: at five point thirty do that? Do you dry thing?

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Speaker 3: What was it? I don't know, some dry scratching, dry

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: scratching on your skin, bit of grounding, but a stretching,

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: but of getting some sun, all of that before the

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Speaker 3: children wake up. Hey, we're going to talk about welfare

1335
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: with the Minister Luise Upston, who's going to be with

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Speaker 3: us after six because as of December last year, we

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Speaker 3: had four hundred and twenty seven two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: six people on a main benefit, which is the population

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Speaker 3: of christ Church. Basically thirteen percent of us not working.

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Speaker 3: That's like one in eight and that's been generous with

1341
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Speaker 3: my figures. By the way, so we'll find out from

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Speaker 3: her what she's planning to do. Why the government, the

1343
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Speaker 3: previous government can be blamed in part for the Marsden

1344
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Speaker 3: Oil Refinery closure is if you go back and have

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Speaker 3: a look at the articles of the time, and I

1346
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 3: think a lot of people have forgotten this. There was

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Speaker 3: the option to save the thing. The Minister Meghan Woods

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Speaker 3: had considered possibly underwriting Marsden Oil Marsden Point Oil Refinery

1349
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Speaker 3: for maybe ten years in order to keep it open.

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Speaker 3: They decided not to do that. Now, maybe they had

1351
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 3: good reason, but whatever the thing is in the they

1352
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: were proven to have done the wrong thing because we're

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01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: only five years on from there. Had they decided for

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: ten years, we'd still be going in twenty thirty one

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: and we would probably still well, we wouldn't be having

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Speaker 3: the debate that we're having at the moment about it. Okay,

1357
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Speaker 3: here we go. I'm gonna tell you really quickly about Jessinda. Okay,

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01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: we're gonna make this really quick. So do you remember

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: when Jinda did that video the other day and she

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: was like, Hi, guys, life update. I was hanging out

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01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: with my family on Sunday. She the AFI has revealed

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01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: was inside the Quantus Lounge, which is this is the

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Speaker 3: Quantus Chairman's lounge, which is the most exclusive airport lounge

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Speaker 3: in Australia, only used by powerful business and political figures.

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Speaker 3: Why they've pointed it out is because it does It's

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Speaker 3: not really what you would expect from old I want

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Speaker 3: to save children from poverty, progressive politician and I'm kind

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: to everybody person, you know what I mean. So if

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Speaker 3: you feel like Jasinda took the reputation, took the money,

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Speaker 3: gapped it and left us to kind of deal with

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Speaker 3: the recession while she lives her best life, you are,

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Speaker 3: in fact correct. That's the end of that. Now, News

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Speaker 3: is next.

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Speaker 1: She was up, what's down? What were the major calls?

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Speaker 1: And how will it affect the economy? The big business

1376
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: questions on the Business Hour, we're the head the duplicy

1377
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Speaker 1: Allen and Mas Insurance and investments.

1378
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands?

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Speaker 7: News talks b.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. Jamie McKay

1381
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: should just be reaching one because shortly we're going to

1382
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: have a chat to him. Sam Dickey on the Iran

1383
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 3: War's likely impact on the US economy, our economy and

1384
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: Australia's as well, and then Ander Brady will join us

1385
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: out of the UK seven past six. Now, it looks

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: like our government is well off track on its benefit

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Speaker 3: reduction target. The goal is to get one hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty thousand people off job seeker, or rather down to

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand people on job seeker. That's

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Speaker 3: a drop of fifty thousand right now. The numbers are

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Speaker 3: moving in the opposite direction though, two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: three thousand kiwis are still on that doll that's the

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Speaker 3: highest level in twelve years. Louise Upston is the Social

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Speaker 3: Development Minister. Hi Luiz, Hello, Heather, how are you well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. We can put this down to the recession,

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Speaker 3: can't we?

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Speaker 28: Well?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean one of the things that we do

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Speaker 14: know when you've got high spending, high debt, inflation, interest

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 14: rates that are high, the last thing is unemployment and

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01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 14: so correcting unemployment is the last thing that follows. What's

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 14: really encouraging is in the Mzier Report, for example, says

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 14: that we are seeing business confidence the highest it's been

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Speaker 14: since twenty fourteen. What happens when businesses are confident, they

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 14: take on more staff. The staff that I've got they

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01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 14: give more hours, they lift wages, so we are really

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 14: confident that things have started to turn the corner. We've

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Speaker 14: also seen with the latest labor market figures for the

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Speaker 14: December quarter an additional fifteen thousand people in work. So

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Speaker 14: while the job second numbers are challenging, we're seeing some

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 14: very strong indicators with business confidence and labor market figures.

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Speaker 3: When is the fifty thousand reduction realistic.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's the target is for twenty thirty. It was

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 14: all going to be incredibly ambitious. But look here that

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 14: I look at every single person that we move off

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 14: welfare into work the enormous difference it makes for them,

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 14: their family and their community. So that is what drives

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 14: me each and every day, person by person, connecting them

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 14: with a job, and despite their being challenging economic times.

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Speaker 14: Last year we've seen eighty three thousand New Zealanders move

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Speaker 14: off welfare and into work. So what we are doing

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 14: is working.

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Speaker 3: Can we say though, that the benefit sanctions, which is

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: really the biggest thing that you've done to try to

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Speaker 3: get people off the doll aren't working.

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Speaker 14: Well, I wouldn't say that because the most recent research

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01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 14: into the traffic light system says that ninety percent of

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01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 14: the people found it useful in understanding what their obligations are. Now,

1429
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 14: remember these are obligations to be looking for work, applying

1430
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,480
Speaker 14: for jobs, be in contact with the MSD, attending seminars,

1431
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 14: attending training, all things that help them to find a

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Speaker 14: job when the labor market cans improve. So I'm really

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01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 14: confident that as those businesses take on more staff, the

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 14: job seeker numbers are willfall. We have a way more

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 14: active welfare system than we did when we came into office.

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 14: More people in case management, more individual support, people very

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 14: clear about what their obligations are and knowing there will

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01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 14: be consequences if they don't reach them. So they're a

1439
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 14: wide array of things that we have done to improve

1440
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 14: the welfare system and to ensure that more people move

1441
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 14: off welfare into jobs.

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01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so at the moment we have got I think

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 3: it's thirteen percent of the working age population sitting on

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01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: some form of benefit. That's completely unacceptable, isn't it, Louise?

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 3: And you know it's not unusual that the UK had

1446
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: a similar debate not long ago about one in ten

1447
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: of them being on the doll What do we have

1448
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: to do to get that number right down to where

1449
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: it should be, which is far smaller.

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 14: So that's one of the concerns I had when we

1452
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 14: came into office was despite there being very positive economic

1453
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 14: times and employers desperate for staff, we saw job seeking

1454
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 14: numbers go up under the last government. So yes, we've

1455
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 14: got to focus on job seekers. We also have to

1456
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 14: focus on reducing the number of sole parents on benefit.

1457
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 14: When Nationals last in office, those numbers were falling, and

1458
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 14: we're falling for many years. Labor come in and those

1459
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 14: numbers start going up again, and we're focused on how

1460
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 14: we reduce those numbers. It's not one thing, it's multiple.

1461
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 14: But you're right, we do have a higher proportion of

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 14: the New Zealand population on welfare than we can sustainably

1463
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 14: support in the years and decades ahead.

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: What's a sustainable number do you think?

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 14: Look, I don't have a sort of target in mind.

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 14: My focus is definitely on job seekers.

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: No, I'm not asking you for a target, although I

1468
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 3: realize about answering the question it will become a thing

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: for you. But what do you reckon is a sustainable number?

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01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 14: Look, I honestly don't know, and I haven't put a

1471
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 14: lot of thought into it. I'm more interested in each

1472
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 14: of the categories how we reduce it, and so I

1473
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 14: sort of tend to focus on raw numbers rather than

1474
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 14: percentages of the population because for me, I'm thinking about

1475
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 14: real people. I'm thinking about real people. A sole parent,

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 14: how do we support her to get back into part

1477
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 14: time work and then into full time work. For a

1478
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 14: job seeker that's got health conditions, how do we ensure

1479
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 14: they're getting their health needs met so they have a

1480
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 14: better chance of being back in a job. And that

1481
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 14: is where very significant changes in MSD are very much

1482
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 14: around more individualized system. That's why the increase in case

1483
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 14: management is really critical. So we've now got seventy thousand

1484
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 14: people in case management and that is a cross a

1485
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 14: range of category. So it's not just in job seekers

1486
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 14: we are looking at sole parents, We're looking at young

1487
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 14: people because we want to do everything possible support people

1488
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 14: off welfare so they've got more choices and opportunities in

1489
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 14: life and that person by person.

1490
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: All right, Louise, thank you very much. I really appreciate

1491
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Speaker 3: your time. That's Louis Upston. The Social Development Minister Heather

1492
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 3: America is preparing to seize carg Island. This is Iran's

1493
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 3: oil export terminal, which is twenty five k's off the coast.

1494
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: If they do that, then Iran's economy will collapse in

1495
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: a day. What will in days? Watch this space, Steve. Now,

1496
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 3: Steve makes a good point that this is something that

1497
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: has been hinted at this week. At the moment, though,

1498
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: and this is this is an important piece of infrastructure.

1499
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: At the moment, it's completely untouched by the US Israel bombers,

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01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 3: and during the Twelve Day War which happened last year,

1501
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: Israel also didn't go anywhere near this. And the reason

1502
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: for it is the following. Experts say bombing or capturing

1503
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: the site with US forces would be likely to cause

1504
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: a sustained increase to already surging oil prices because it

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: would amount to taking basically the entirety of Iran's daily

1506
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: crewed exports offline. We may see the one hundred and

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: twenty dollars a barrel price that we saw on Monday

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Speaker 3: heading to the one fifty if carg were attacked, they

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: can take it. Obviously without attacking it, you don't have

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01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: to destroy it. It would just have catastrophic consequences in

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01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 3: the short term for the global economy. But in the

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 3: longer term for Iran, they can of course take it

1513
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: without bombing it, but that would be a little bit

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: more than just kind of sending some special troops. And

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01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 3: so we'll see what they do with that, because it

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 3: is it's a risky move.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen past six, It's the Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full

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Speaker 1: Show podcast on my Heart Radio powered by Newstalks EBB.

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Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy

1520
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: Allen on the Business Hour with Mass Insurance and Investments,

1521
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands, Used talks EDB.

1522
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: Hey, I've got a little bit of good news for

1523
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: you Vogels if you so, if you're one of those

1524
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: Auckland shoppers with a little bit too much, I'm thinking you,

1525
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 3: Chelsea Winter. You're a Chelsea Winter and you've been going

1526
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: through Auckland supermarkets. I'm thinking CBD here and you go, oh,

1527
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: I can't get my Vogels thin sliced original. You can

1528
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 3: now it's back on the shelves, So that shortage is over.

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 3: Happy Days eighteen past.

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: Six, Together do for ce Ellen.

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 3: Jamie mckaye, host of the Countries with us Alo, Jamie

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 3: good I Heather, you just arrived in Wanica, have you yes?

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 9: Surrounded by road I'm surrounded by well three hundred vintage things,

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 9: three hundred and one if you count the south. I've

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 9: never been here before. This is a guy called Alan

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 9: Dippy who's responsible for the development along with his brother Martin,

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 9: of half of Wonica. Very successful business people own Miter

1538
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 9: Tens and Nichols Garden Centers. And he's got this huge,

1539
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 9: big shed, flash shed with three hundred vehicles in here

1540
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 9: and surroundings absolutely magnificently. It is the venue tonight for

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 9: a fundraising dinner we're doing for Lincoln University for sport,

1542
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 9: raising money for sport at Lincoln University. And Andy Dalton,

1543
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 9: the former All Black captain old boy of Lincoln College

1544
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 9: as it was back in the day, as one of

1545
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 9: the guest speakers. Gary steed Stead should I say, former

1546
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 9: Black Cap and former Black Caps coach only recently retired

1547
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 9: or stepped down from that role. And his wife Rachel,

1548
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 9: who's a good Balfer girl. That it's just up the

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 9: road from my hometown of Riversdale and she runs all

1550
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 9: the sport including the netball at Lincoln, so it's going

1551
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 9: to be great. I think they've got like one hundred

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01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 9: and fifty people here and there should be plenty of

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 9: money in the room hopefully, so we can raise plenty

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 9: of money for Lincoln at University as it is these days.

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: And so are you playing golf tomorrow morning or did

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01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 3: you do it earlier today?

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 9: None? I haven't played golf. I missed out on golf

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 9: in the Wira Rapper. I've got the clubs and no,

1559
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 9: no Saturday morning. It's workday tomorrow doing the show from

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 9: here and then involved in another kind of fundraising thing

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 9: for the president of the Wana Karean PA Association. So

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 9: they're working me hard while I'm here. That sounds On

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01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 9: Saturday morning, I'm going to Millbrook, so that'll be good.

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Speaker 9: I'll just take ten golf balls with me because the

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 9: rough is particularly long there.

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: At the moment I get.

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: Through ten in the first two holes, I reckon, Hey,

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01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: did you have you told us yet? Who won the

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: Xander McDonald A woods.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a guy by the name of Kahn. I've forgotten

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 9: his second name, great wallywell halliwell, anyhow, I've just honestly

1572
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 9: I haven't got it. Sitting in front of me, he

1573
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 9: is a really impressive young man. He's I think third

1574
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 9: generation Indians, Indian migrants who came here as father I

1575
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 9: know is a dairy farmer and why Katto and he

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 9: took over the farm. It wasn't big enough to be

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01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 9: sustainable for him and his wife to go daring, so

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01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 9: he thought, how can I get an intensive use out

1579
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 9: of this farm? So we went market gardening and he grows.

1580
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 9: He grows a huge proportion of the country's watermelons, amongst

1581
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 9: other things. But he's a really interesting character. He's got

1582
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 9: a background in rural banking and as a fertilizer repee

1583
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 9: got badly, badly hit in cyclone, Gabrielle. But he's just

1584
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 9: one of those clever entrepreneurial guys and he was most impressive.

1585
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 9: Beat out a couple of other really good New Zealanders

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 9: for the title on Tuesday Evening and christ Church. So

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01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 9: the other two Chloe Butcher Harries from the North Island

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 9: and a girl by the name of Lana Marshall from

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 9: down in South and they both had great cvs as well.

1590
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 9: So this is a great thing to win, Heather. You

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01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 9: get to you get ten grand and you get to

1592
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 9: fly around Australia and New Zealand and a private jet.

1593
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 9: And most importantly you get the network networking with the

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 9: biggest farmers in Australasia, Australia and New Yeah.

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: Cool, that sounds awesome, Jamie. Listen, you enjoy yourself, enjoy

1596
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 3: all the hard work and then enjoy the golf at Millbrook.

1597
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 3: That's Jamie McKay, host of the Country. Heither a farming

1598
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: friend advertised his dairy farm job at eighty thousand dollars

1599
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: a year, seventy five applicants, only five residents in New Zealand.

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 3: Of the five, one could not get themselves out of

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01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 3: bed in the morning. According to the reference. Three offered interviews,

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 3: one was a no show, one couldn't make eye contact

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01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 3: with the farmer, and the last one was the one

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01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: that he hired. There are jobs, there are just not

1605
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: people interested in taking them. Thanks Campbell. Do you know, honestly,

1606
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 3: there is a there is a chunk of New Zealand

1607
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 3: that is just exactly like that, just a chunk of

1608
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 3: New Zealand who have turned into a pack of drong goes,

1609
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean, and just cannot be

1610
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: asked actually working. That is directly related to the fact

1611
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 3: that we have what we would term a generous welfare system.

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01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 3: We are the reason those drong goos have turned into

1613
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 3: normal people who have just turned into drongos. I feel

1614
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: that's why I asked Louise Upston that question. I think

1615
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: there has to be a fundamental rethinking of what we're

1616
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: doing with welfare so that this group of people in

1617
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: future generations can have a chance. Otherwise stories like that

1618
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 3: will just it will just go on forever and ever

1619
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: in this country six twenty two.

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01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1621
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: on the business hour with head the Dupicila and mas insurance.

1622
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: And investments, your futures in good hands. News talks' be heather.

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01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 3: A construction laborer with overtime will push eighty thousand dollars

1624
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 3: and maybe that farming salaries just aren't that competitive with

1625
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: other industries, so they're dealing with the bottom of the barrel.

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 3: Maybe listen. Turns out the new Supreme Leader of Iran

1627
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 3: was injured in the first wave of the US attacks

1628
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 3: that killed his dad and his family. We've learned this

1629
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: from Tehran's ambassador to Cyprus, who it feels a little

1630
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: bit third hand the way he tells the story, but

1631
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 3: he says that he's heard that the new Ayah Tolla

1632
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: was injured in his legs and his hand and his arm,

1633
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: and that maybe he's in hospital because he's injured. Now

1634
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: analysts are seeing this one of two ways. They're seeing

1635
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: this one as a sign of desperation by the revolutionary

1636
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: guards by popping in a guy who is wounded, like

1637
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: despite the fact that he's wounded they've sworn him and

1638
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 3: basically as self preservation. But other analysts are seeing it

1639
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: as a sign of confidence that the wartime machinery and

1640
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 3: Iran can operate almost on order pilot, even if he's

1641
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: in hospital. Six twenty six.

1642
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1643
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 29: It's Lyza with the Sea, not Lisa with Nenescnaigel Minelli's

1644
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 29: eightieth birthday today, and some of us have surprised, frankly

1645
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 29: she's lasted this long.

1646
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 3: But let me tell you, she has just spilled the

1647
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 3: bee the tea on some really big names in old Hollywood,

1648
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: because she's just released her hotly anticipated biography to coincide

1649
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: with her birthday. In chapter one, she talks about her mum,

1650
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: Judy Garland. Now she says Judy's addiction problems became so

1651
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: bad that Liza had to become her full time care

1652
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: at thirteen. She also talks about dressing up and sneaking

1653
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 3: out of the hotels with her siblings because they couldn't

1654
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: afford to pay for the night's day, so they're basically

1655
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: gapping it. In another story, she takes some shots at

1656
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 3: Lady Gaga. She says at the twenty twenty two Oscars, Liza,

1657
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: Liza and Gaga present into the Best Picture together. That

1658
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: was the year, by the way that Will Smith slapped

1659
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: Chris Rock. According to Manali, Lady Gaga insisted that Liza

1660
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: be rolled out in a wheelchair against her will. She

1661
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: then quizzed Liza on her memory and what she said

1662
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 3: felt like a cognitive test. Then Garga told Liza she

1663
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: might just be better off going off home. Last, but

1664
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 3: not least, Liza's written about a never reported affair which

1665
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 3: was with the director Martin Scorsesey during the filming of

1666
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: New York, New York. She says the pair bonded because

1667
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 3: they shared a love of artistic intensity, their Italian heritage,

1668
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 3: and cocaine. Liza's book is called Kids Wait Till You

1669
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: Hear This it is probably out in any half decent

1670
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: bookstore right now. And that is not even by the way,

1671
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: the tip of the iceberg. With the yarns. There are

1672
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: more yarns to count. There are yarns about Peter Sellers

1673
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: and what a jerk he was. There are yarns about

1674
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 3: how she invented the moonwalk. So if you're interested in

1675
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 3: someone who actually finally tells you really ducing things in

1676
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: names names, go and get a hold of this one.

1677
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 3: Sam Dickie's with us next is going to talk us

1678
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: through the impacts on the US economy of what's going

1679
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 3: on in a run news talks EDB.

1680
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 29: It's Eliza with CD not listened with an escus, listen

1681
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 29: with an escal snubs it's the instead of line instead of.

1682
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 3: The simplest VC Liza.

1683
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 29: Then am I double and then eat double L I

1684
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 29: you double the and that's not new, Then E double

1685
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 29: the L and with an I.

1686
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 3: That's why you say menlli.

1687
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1688
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: with Heather DUPLEICL and mass insurance and investments, your futures

1689
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: in good heads used talks EDB.

1690
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 24: You don't have.

1691
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh god, and ten minutes time Heather Smeme owner time

1692
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: after time, thirty to forty applications, we pay good wages,

1693
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: et cetera. Ninety nine percent are always immigrants. Her work

1694
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: flipping hard. Two Kiwis have applied over approximately seventy times

1695
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: and applications and they haven't shown up for the interview.

1696
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: It's just absolutely brilliant Steve, Thank you for that. Yay

1697
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 3: for us also? Oh lord, yeah, good evening, Kerry. That

1698
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 3: would be me. Can I put it this way? I

1699
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: adore you justified speech and words on the dron goes.

1700
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: I work in the Solomons and I listen to you

1701
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 3: as best that I can when the signal allows. I

1702
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: work with people from the Philippines. My oh my, what

1703
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: wonderful attitudes they have for the work discipline. I proudly

1704
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: tell them their function that of their fellow countrymen that

1705
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 3: help and uplift our dairy industry in New Zealand. Take

1706
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: a bow the hard workers twenty three away from.

1707
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 2: Seven ever du for cl Now.

1708
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 3: Before the Iran conflict kicked off, the US economy was

1709
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: flying while New Zealand was struggling. In Australia was stuck

1710
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: with that inflation problem. Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is

1711
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: with us to talk us through this. Hi, Sam, Hey, Heather,

1712
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 3: how different were things looking for the US economy versus

1713
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: US and the Aussies.

1714
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 30: Yes, very different stories across the three economies. So the

1715
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 30: US was doing really well, sort of growing around three

1716
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 30: percent the last couple of years, and inflation was continuing

1717
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 30: to fall and it's almost at the Central banks target.

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01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 30: So that's otherwise known as goldilocks, that really powerful combination

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01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 30: of strong growth and falling in inflation. Ozzie had been

1720
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 30: growing okay, somewhere in the middle, about one and a

1721
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 30: half to two percent, but it has an inflation problem.

1722
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 30: Inflation started rising again last year. It's around three point

1723
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 30: five percent today, well above the Central Bank's target. And

1724
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 30: then there's New Zealand in and out of recession as

1725
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 30: we know, and inflation hasn't really behaved that well either.

1726
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 30: It stayed higher than the US and headline inflation started

1727
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 30: rising last year. So the US is sprinting. Ozzie's been

1728
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 30: on a treadmill against fighting a head wind. In New

1729
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 30: Zealand's been on the stretcher.

1730
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: So why has the US been able to pull this

1731
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: whole thing off so much better than we have all

1732
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 3: the Aussies.

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 30: Well, I mean, if we do start with the Aussi's,

1734
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 30: they just couldn't kill inflation. They got that double dose

1735
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 30: out of the back of COVID, so massive COVID stimulus

1736
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 30: like we all did from the government and a commodity

1737
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 30: windfall that kept the economy running red hot. Now that

1738
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 30: commodity tail in Australia is kind of fading fast, so

1739
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 30: they face a tricky dismount as they're fighting yesterday's in

1740
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 30: flav still but tomorrow's growth engine is sputtering. And as

1741
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 30: you know, New Zealand has had harder for the post

1742
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 30: COVID boom. Our house prices ran harder than most OECD

1743
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 30: countries that two year fixed mortgage phenomenon, whereby we were

1744
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 30: hitting the pocket pretty hard. You know, that mortgage bill

1745
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 30: went for around two billion their quarter to six billion.

1746
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 30: And then the US just has stuff that we don't have,

1747
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 30: so they have niney their mortgages fixed for thirty years.

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 30: So there's a real staggered impact on the consumer. And

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01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 30: of course we've talked about this nauseam and the massive

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 30: AI investment going on over there, and of course they've

1751
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 30: got a lot more fiscal large s, so they're running

1752
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 30: kind of six percent fiscal deficits over there, which is

1753
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 30: nearly double their fifty year average.

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: Now that run has kicked off, though, does this blow

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: up the US advantage or does it tilt the playing

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01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: field for each of the countries.

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01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 30: It's no one knows how it's going to turn out.

1758
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 30: But if the oil prices stay high, it's say over

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01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 30: one hundred dollars a barrel for a few months. On

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 30: the face of it, before we consider the all important consumer,

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 30: the US and Aussie are better off at a national level,

1762
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 30: so they're both long oil. They are net oil exporters,

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01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 30: and you know that we're the odd one out. We're

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01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 30: a genuine net energy importer. So basically it's a tax

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01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 30: on every KIV household. But the reality is consumers in

1766
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 30: all countries get hit in the pocket at the pump.

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Speaker 30: So the only other nuance I would say is we're

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01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 30: kind of match fit for a tough environment over here,

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01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 30: and I don't say that lightly. That would just likely

1770
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 30: prolong the temperate economy in New Zealand, whereas given the

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01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 30: really high expectations of ongoing strong growth in the US

1772
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 30: kind of muddied by the upcoming mid terms. I think

1773
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 30: there could be a more painful adjustment over there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what does this mean then for investors?

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01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 30: You know, as we've discussed, trying to read the tea

1776
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 30: leaves on geopolitics is always fraught, but especially so this time.

1777
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 30: And I think there've been six different reasons and five

1778
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 30: different objectives floated by various people in the US administration,

1779
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 30: and they all contradict each other at some point in time.

1780
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 30: But just keeping eye on those circuit breaks, because you

1781
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 30: and I talked about an eight pril last year here,

1782
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 30: which was President Trump doesn't care about the stock market

1783
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 30: and Wall Street per se, but he cares about hurting

1784
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 30: Main Street and the high oil prices obviously, but also

1785
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 30: the higher interest rates we've seen in the US as

1786
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,560
Speaker 30: a result of the rising inflation expectations will definitely be

1787
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 30: hearting the person in the street. So hopefully that will

1788
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 30: cause them to blink sooner rather than later. But in

1789
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 30: the meantime, remember to use this as an opportunity to

1790
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 30: kind of understand exactly what you own as an investor.

1791
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 30: Make sure you're as convicted as you thought you were.

1792
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 30: Use it as an opportunity to speak to your advisor

1793
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 30: and if there are a fabulous companies you wanted to

1794
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 30: buy yesterday that are much cheaper today, it can be

1795
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 30: an opportunity as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, thank you very much. Sam has always appreciated

1797
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: that Sam Dicky Fisher funds nineteen away from seven on energy.

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01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: Bit of a grim report out from PwC on the

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: gas today. So this is a report that looks at

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 3: basically how things are going to play out at a

1801
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 3: bunch of scenarios, including whether we do the LNG or not.

1802
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, we're just I'm going to simplify this. These

1803
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 3: are the things that you need to know out of

1804
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: the report. This report assumes that the Maui gas field

1805
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: stops producing next year in twenty twenty seven, and that

1806
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: as a result of that, methods and balance leave New

1807
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Zealand as well next year, which is inevitable. I mean,

1808
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 3: this has been reported enough long enough now for you

1809
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: to basically assume that this is going to happen. It's

1810
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: a case of when is it next year? Isn't December?

1811
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 3: This year? Is it the year? There are? When is it?

1812
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: But it's going to happen, and it's obviously going to

1813
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 3: be not great for the New Zealand economy to be

1814
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 3: losing methodics and balance. We will also be short of gas.

1815
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 3: As a result of this, there will be business closures,

1816
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: there will be job losses, there will be wider economic

1817
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 3: costs households and businesses will need at some point. If

1818
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 3: we do l G, it basically just extends. It buys

1819
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: time for industrial users to give up gas, but it

1820
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 3: will do no more. We will all have to give

1821
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 3: up gas. We will have to give up gas in

1822
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 3: this country and it will be very hard for households,

1823
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 3: It will be very hard for businesses. There will probably

1824
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,919
Speaker 3: need to be support through the transition for both households

1825
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: and businesses. To discuss this on the show, it's an

1826
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: enormous amount of money for a business or a household

1827
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: to transition away from gas and onto electricity completely gas

1828
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: in the last decade, and this is what's going to

1829
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: happen with the price in the meantime. Gas in the

1830
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: last decade cost about ten dollars per gigaduel. It will

1831
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 3: go up to twenty twenty, thirty five to thirty one

1832
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 3: dollars according to this this is the projection thirty one

1833
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 3: dollars per gigajeel so that is three times more expensive

1834
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: than we have been paying in the last decade. Next

1835
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 3: year is going to be particularly hard, according to the report,

1836
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 3: because it is the year that Marui stops producing and

1837
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 3: then Methodics and balance exit. But we have to wait

1838
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: until twenty twenty eight for the al and g import

1839
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: to start, right. That is, in the best case scenario,

1840
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 3: that's when it starts. So you've got a year there

1841
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 3: where you haven't got the gas coming in from there,

1842
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: but you haven't got the gas coming in from there either,

1843
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: which means the market is more exposed should it be

1844
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: a dry year. So not a lot to look forward

1845
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: to on the gas front, unfortunately, seventeen away from seven.

1846
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1847
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,320
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1848
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1849
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Speaker 3: Heather, that's quite interesting on the gas supply forecast. The

1850
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: majority of rural New Zealand exists on gas bottles for

1851
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 3: hot water and cooking, amongst other things. I wonder what

1852
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: the proposal would be for the country side. I think,

1853
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're talking about you know, your barbecue gas,

1854
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 3: I think You're okay for now. It's more if you've

1855
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 3: got your gas being piped into your names. However, if

1856
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 3: you want to get off the barbecue gas or the

1857
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 3: gas bottles, it's still expensive to convert to electricity, isn't it.

1858
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: So the cost remains fourteen away from seven Endo Brady

1859
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 3: UK correspondence with US.

1860
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Speaker 31: Hello Ender, Hey her, great to speak to you.

1861
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 3: Him mate. It's like groundhog Day here we are discussing

1862
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 3: yet again. Starma is under pressure yet again.

1863
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,959
Speaker 31: Yes, so this is again to do with the Epstein

1864
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 31: files and his former Ambassador to America Peter Mandelsson, who

1865
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 31: at one stage had this Jeffrey Epstein as his best

1866
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 31: pal in the world, no matter where I am, and

1867
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 31: even had emailed him to say I think the world

1868
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 31: of view. Well, he got the boot in September mandelsshon.

1869
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 31: What's happened now? Why this is from Page News again

1870
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 31: is Starmer has chosen to release all of the files

1871
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 31: relating to his appointment of Mandelson as British Ambassador to

1872
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 31: America last year. They wanted to build a relationship with Trump.

1873
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 31: They needed someone who could be in the room with

1874
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 31: big political beasts, schmooths them and do what was best

1875
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 31: for Britain, and I think they were completely blinded by

1876
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 31: Mandelsson's ability to do that, and they completely overlooked this

1877
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 31: friendship that was a very deep and long running friendship

1878
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 31: with Jeffrey Epstein. Now Mandelson has denied any wrongdoing with

1879
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 31: regard to that friendship. He's under investigation by the police

1880
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 31: for alleged misconduct in a public office. But what is

1881
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 31: damning here really is that Starmer, despite multiple warnings in

1882
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 31: the files that have been released overnight, multiple warnings about Mandelssohn,

1883
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 31: his reputation, he's very close friendship with Epstein, Starmer went

1884
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,759
Speaker 31: ahead and give him that gig.

1885
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 3: Right, So what's your prognosis on his career here, given

1886
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 3: that the by election was lost to the Greens and

1887
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 3: now there's more of this crap coming out about.

1888
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 31: Him, Well, he will limp on until May. There are

1889
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 31: council elections across much of England. There are national elections

1890
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,839
Speaker 31: for the Parliament in Scotland and the Senate in Wales,

1891
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,919
Speaker 31: and I think if they're as bad as the polling predicts,

1892
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 31: the Labor Party, unless they are, Turkey's heading head first

1893
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 31: for Christmas, will sit down privately and think we need

1894
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 31: someone to turn this ship round before.

1895
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 5: It's too late.

1896
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 31: They would still have two and a half years to

1897
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 31: the next election, and I think if Starmer loves the

1898
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 31: Labor Party and these elections are as bad as they

1899
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 31: are predicted to be in May, he would have to

1900
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 31: step aside. I mean, he's just a deeply unpopular prime

1901
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 31: minister right now.

1902
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 3: What is the discount on these white loss jebs.

1903
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 31: Sent if you jog? So you've got to be able

1904
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 31: to prove. Now, I did wonder how they're going to

1905
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 31: do this. This is Boots the pharmacy. They're in the

1906
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 31: papers today and they're sor They're linking up with a

1907
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 31: fitness app. So you will have to have the app

1908
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 31: on your watch. You will have to do five k

1909
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 31: at weekends and you will get twenty five percent off

1910
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 31: Mount Jarro and wegg Ave and all these weight loss

1911
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 31: jobs jobs that absolutely everyone seems to be on. I'm

1912
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 31: really split on this. I don't like the idea of

1913
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 31: I've even read an article last week in Runner's World

1914
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 31: about like super fit people are now taking weight loss

1915
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 31: jobs just to get rid of the last two or

1916
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 31: three kgs before a race, which blows my mind. The

1917
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 31: stupidity of this, I don't know. I've made TV shows

1918
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 31: on my show Roundtable about these weight loss jobs, and

1919
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 31: all of the medical experts, every single woman I've had

1920
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 31: on talking about this to a t they have said,

1921
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 31: you know, you need to be exercising more. These are

1922
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 31: not just like a merry You'll click the button then

1923
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 31: it's done.

1924
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, But so how do you prove that

1925
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 3: you've been jogging, because surely you could just record yourself

1926
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: going out for quite a brisk walk and then say

1927
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: I jog really slowly.

1928
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 5: Well, well there we go.

1929
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Speaker 31: I think, Okay, it's a great publicity stunt for Boots

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Speaker 31: if I'm honest we're talking about it. I think ultimately,

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Speaker 31: if anyone can cover a five K and they've got

1932
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Speaker 31: it on the app, no matter how long it's taken,

1933
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Speaker 31: they'll get twenty five percent off. But it's it's a

1934
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Speaker 31: strange one.

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Speaker 3: There's a strange one, and thank you very much, really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Into Brady UK Correspondent. Strange one that more

1937
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Speaker 3: and more people are doing. You see some of the

1938
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: people are going a little over the board. Do you

1939
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Speaker 3: notice that you could tell when somebody's doing the old

1940
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Speaker 3: jabs can't you, Because all of a sudden you're like like, wow,

1941
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Speaker 3: you've lost a lot of weight. Okay, Wow you're looking skeletal. Okay,

1942
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 3: now you look like you might have you might be

1943
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Speaker 3: in a femine situation. And I think what's going on

1944
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 3: is there's no addiction to food anymore. Now there's just

1945
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 3: an addiction to being skeletor isn't there. Anyway, if you've

1946
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 3: got somebody in your life who's overdoing the jabs, send

1947
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Speaker 3: them my way. I'll give them an intervention if it's necessary,

1948
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Speaker 3: because it is going a bit far. Question for you?

1949
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Speaker 3: Is it gas lighted or gas lit? I'm asking this

1950
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Speaker 3: because this is Sam the producer, who doesn't have a

1951
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Speaker 3: great grasp of English. I'm not gonna live. It's great

1952
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Speaker 3: on the the he will tell you everything you need

1953
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Speaker 3: to know about Olivia Dean something like that. But he

1954
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Speaker 3: was like, as a gaslighted or gas lit This is

1955
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Speaker 3: because newsroom dot co dot in z had a headline

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Speaker 3: ling imports are we being gaslighted? And we all thought

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Speaker 3: as bold, no.

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Speaker 28: I must be gaslet mustn't it. I mean, you don't

1959
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 28: talk about something being lighted?

1960
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Speaker 3: Well, I think back in old English, you did. In fact,

1961
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Speaker 3: when you were using hither, thither and wuthering, you would

1962
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Speaker 3: be gaslighted.

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Speaker 28: Oh blow my mind, there you go. I clearly they

1964
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Speaker 28: don't have a very good grassy the English language either,

1965
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Speaker 28: two producers. That's not very good, is it.

1966
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Speaker 3: But you've got other stuff up your sleeve, like geopolitics.

1967
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Speaker 3: He hasn't gone anything like that. Both gas lighted and

1968
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Speaker 3: gas lit are acceptable past tense forms of the verb gaslight,

1969
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 3: but gaslet is more commonly used in modern usage, while

1970
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 3: gaslighted is often considered more grammatically resass by some. So

1971
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Speaker 3: that's why newsroom dot co dot zaid did that, because

1972
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 3: they have a lot of the universities they're affiliated with,

1973
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 3: so they could possibly use something as common as gas lit.

1974
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Speaker 3: Eight away from seven, it's the.

1975
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1977
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Speaker 3: Heather, did you miss what Darcy Woodgrave said earlier when

1978
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 3: he commented that he'd been told off last night for

1979
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 3: mispronouncing Iran and Iraq. It's Iran and Iraq, not Iran

1980
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Speaker 3: and Iraq. Thank you, Warren. We've already been told. We

1981
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Speaker 3: have been told because Kevin is here. So Kevin is

1982
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Speaker 3: Kevin is in for the German so the Germans off

1983
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Speaker 3: having the baby as you well, baby's out by the way,

1984
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Speaker 3: Baby's a boy, very cute. Kevin is in and Kevin

1985
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Speaker 3: has spent some time in the Middle East, and it

1986
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: is driving Kevin nuts that we're that we just we

1987
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Speaker 3: just switched like randomly between them in New Zealand, Iranian, Iranian, Iranian,

1988
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Speaker 3: ira Iran, whatever. And he's just all he wants is consistency,

1989
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Speaker 3: but correct consistency. So thank you for backing him up.

1990
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Speaker 3: It is in fact Iran Iraq and we're not American.

1991
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Speaker 3: Now listen, if you're going to go to the races

1992
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Speaker 3: this year, and if you are, where are you getting

1993
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Speaker 3: your money? But if you're going to the races this year,

1994
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 3: I'm just going to do your little solid and tell

1995
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 3: you that you can take your clues and your cues

1996
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Speaker 3: from Cheltenham. The looks this year is for the ladies,

1997
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Speaker 3: Downton Abbey and Peaky Blinders for the boys. So down

1998
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Speaker 3: to Abbey. Peaky Blinders is very obvious, it's very simple.

1999
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Speaker 3: You're just gonna wear the flat caps. You don't have

2000
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 3: to put the razor in there. No one will know.

2001
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 3: For the ladies fitted waistcoats, floor length jackets, elegant head pieces,

2002
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 3: lots of tweed. You want to kind of nail that

2003
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Speaker 3: nineteen thirties kind, Well, they're both kind of nineteen thirties,

2004
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Speaker 3: I suppose, but nineteen thirties look for the ladies ants.

2005
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Speaker 28: I think if you just took the hat away, the

2006
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 28: peak blinders look is basically just standard formal wear. But

2007
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 28: you just have to definitely have a waistcoat. That's a

2008
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 28: nice thing about men's formal war is just we've always

2009
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Speaker 28: had the same for a time I memorial and it's

2010
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Speaker 28: never changes. Yes, Janet Jackson miss you much to play

2011
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Speaker 28: us out tonight. So the knew Michael Jackson movie is

2012
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Speaker 28: coming out. So sixty members of the Jackson family all

2013
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Speaker 28: gathered for like a private screening of it, and apparently

2014
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Speaker 28: there was a bit of a spat. Janet Jackson apparently

2015
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Speaker 28: did not like the movie at all, did not like

2016
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Speaker 28: the acting, did not like the makeup, did not like

2017
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Speaker 28: how the actors spoke. And when she made the case

2018
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Speaker 28: Jermaine Jackson, her and Michael's brother, he wasn't happy about

2019
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Speaker 28: that because his son is playing Michael in the movie,

2020
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Speaker 28: and he said, you are going to miss this wave.

2021
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Speaker 28: You were so jealous. Just get on the wave now.

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Speaker 28: This is all according to an anonymous source in page six.

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Speaker 28: Apparently it's a bit of a family few over it.

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Speaker 3: So what's the waves, what's this wave? What's this young?

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Speaker 28: So apparently this is one of the other family members

2026
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Speaker 28: have said that basically, this is their chance at a comeback.

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Speaker 28: Right Michael Jackson was lightning in a bottle.

2028
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Speaker 7: He says.

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Speaker 28: You can't recreate him, but you can remind the world

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Speaker 28: what he meant. We keep looking for that moment again.

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Speaker 28: It's about our legacy. It's about the comeback in store

2032
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Speaker 28: for all of us, all the Jackson's. I'll tell you what,

2033
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Speaker 28: I want to watch a movie about this. This sounds

2034
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Speaker 28: way more interesting the life of Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 3: You want to watch the mesa movie about the fight

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Speaker 3: at the head? About the movie? Yeah, that's for sure,

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Speaker 3: I would too.

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Speaker 23: I would.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie or the Peaky Blind. This movie

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Speaker 3: Outist is out soon, by the way, so enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: See you tomorrow.

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