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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected news.

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Speaker 2: Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: We're going to go to our court reporter who was

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Speaker 3: there for the Goals sentencing, the most common offense in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand last year. You might not believe it was

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Speaker 3: actually fraud. Will speak to the net Safe CEO. And

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Speaker 3: apparently multi vitamins. We're told ara raught, so we'll find

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Speaker 3: out about that from a nutritionist. Heather Duplicy Ellen, Well,

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Speaker 3: respect for the judge and the Goleras sentencing, because I

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Speaker 3: don't think any of us expected Golera's garment to be

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Speaker 3: slapped with a conviction as a first time offender, did we?

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Speaker 3: But that is what happened today. The judge declined the

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Speaker 3: application for a discharge without conviction. Instead she convicted Golera's garment.

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Speaker 3: She find her sixteen hundred dollars and then she added

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Speaker 3: court costs of two hundred and sixty dollars. So good

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Speaker 3: on the judge for that, because it's not often nowadays

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Speaker 3: that we're actually surprised by a judge being harsher that

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Speaker 3: we expected them to be. And when I say harsh,

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Speaker 3: I don't mean harsher than what is fair. Goldris was

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Speaker 3: a repeat shoplifter. She is a smart, educated, articulate, sophisticated woman.

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Speaker 3: She knew what she was doing was wrong. I think

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Speaker 3: a conviction was absolutely fair. I want to, though, deal

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Speaker 3: with the thing that keeps coming up in the Goldru's story,

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Speaker 3: which is mental health, either as an explanation or as

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Speaker 3: an excuse for her behavior. Now, somebody pointed out to

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Speaker 3: me today, and I reckon this is worth repeating to

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Speaker 3: you that Goldris's first offense was the shoplifting that she

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Speaker 3: did in Wellington. That was eight days after the general

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Speaker 3: election last year. Now that date is interesting because if

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Speaker 3: you know Goldris's story, you know that Goldris has repeatedly,

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Speaker 3: including in an interview that I'm going to play you

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Speaker 3: later on which's just done. She has blamed her behavior

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Speaker 3: in part on how hard her job as an MP was.

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Speaker 3: She said specifically because of the abuse and the threats

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Speaker 3: that she was getting very very regularly, and so as

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Speaker 3: a result, it led her to act up and she

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Speaker 3: went shoplifting. Now, as I say, Goalriz is smart and

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Speaker 3: she's worldly and she's educated, so surely if it was

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Speaker 3: to her that she could end the stress herself by

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Speaker 3: simply quitting the job. And the date is material because

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Speaker 3: while she was in the throes of the stress, she

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Speaker 3: was literally given the outpoint, which is the election. She

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Speaker 3: could have said to the Green Party Listen, I am

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Speaker 3: so stressed out by what's going on in my life

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Speaker 3: right now that I'm gonna behave badly, and I think

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Speaker 3: the best thing for me to do is actually just

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Speaker 3: stand down at this election and not stand it's too hard.

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Speaker 3: But she made the call to stand again and then

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Speaker 3: eight days later she gaza goes out and nicked stuff.

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Speaker 3: If she realized, maybe only at that point after the election,

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Speaker 3: that she'd made a mistake and she shouldn't have stood.

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Speaker 3: There was a period of about two months before she

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Speaker 3: offended again in Scotty's in Auckland, where she could have quit.

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Speaker 3: She could have said, oh, man, you know what made

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Speaker 3: a mistake, list MP, I can quit, won't trigger a

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Speaker 3: by election, simply will be replaced by the next person

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Speaker 3: On the Green Party list, and there was another out

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Speaker 3: for her if she hadn't taken the first out. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously I know that people suffering from mental health problems

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Speaker 3: clearly as you or I might, or as they in

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Speaker 3: retrospect may be able to see it with hindsight. But

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Speaker 3: this is not hard. This is a simple one. The

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Speaker 3: job is incredibly stressful and upsetting. General election is about

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Speaker 3: to be had. Surely somebody goes, are you going to

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Speaker 4: Doras?

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Speaker 3: And she goes, they must have had their conversation. So

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Speaker 3: surely an MP under that much stress would ask themselves

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Speaker 3: and Z. You're going to want to hear it home,

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Speaker 3: won't play gibits and just to take it to eleven

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Speaker 3: past four. Now, the number of whistleblowers is apparently on

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Speaker 3: and also of protected disclosures. Peter Bowsher is obviously the

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Speaker 3: chief Obardsman and with us now, Hey, Peter.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon here.

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Speaker 3: Though, why do you reckon it's going up?

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Speaker 6: I think there are a couple of reasons. In twenty

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Speaker 6: think people can have more confidence than it. The other thing, too,

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Speaker 6: I think is that when you look back at Charby

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Speaker 6: now that it's the right thing to do to bring

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Speaker 6: to the surface when there's serious wrongdoing, things such as

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Speaker 6: sexual harassment. I think there's more willingness to talk about

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Speaker 6: these things and to raise them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so almost a greater understanding that if you are

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Speaker 3: suffering or seeing the thing, it's not just you yourself

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Speaker 6: I think that's right, and I think that the recent

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Speaker 6: today about the ben Z under lady who's had the

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Speaker 6: enormous courage to go through years of complaining about how

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Speaker 6: a complaint has recited justice from the Employment Relations Sociority.

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Speaker 6: I think that's really good. It's an indicator that although

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Speaker 6: this can be really hard and taxing and probably promoting anxiety,

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Speaker 6: in the end, it can be safe and you can

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Speaker 6: get justice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was actually going to ask you about that, Peter,

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Speaker 3: because the importance, obviously of the B and Z story

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Speaker 3: her for it. How often do you see that happening

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Speaker 3: in workplaces?

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Speaker 6: Well, there is a retribution. You may recall the Joanne

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Speaker 6: Harrison case where she defrauded the Ministry of Transport and

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Speaker 6: the then public Service permissioner felt that the employees had

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Speaker 6: the result that by Sandy Beatty was very critical of

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Speaker 6: the way that they've been treated. I think that's an illustration, Heather,

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Speaker 6: that this is an area where people do get actious.

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Speaker 6: Many won't make a complaint for fear of retribution. And

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Speaker 6: the real difficulty about that is that those who are

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Speaker 3: What is it that people are complaining about.

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Speaker 6: There are about three or four areas, and these are

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Speaker 6: the broad categories. I'll keep them brief. Financial mismanagement some

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Speaker 6: see those above them for a variety of reasons, not

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Speaker 6: managing money prudently. Then unsafe work practices. We see this

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Speaker 6: and you'll know from time to time various companies get

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Speaker 6: other employees know that they're being put at ruth. Then

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Speaker 6: sexual harassment does arise. It's there, and so also the

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Speaker 6: lack of systems within agencies to deal with it. So

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Speaker 6: in number THO, I'm not only being sexually harassed, but

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Speaker 3: Peter, I don't know if you're going to like this.

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Speaker 3: I just got a text. I want to run this

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Speaker 3: by you. Somebody's text through saying COVID created a culture

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Speaker 6: I have no evidence to support that at all. What

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Speaker 6: I would say is that in terms of whistleblowing and

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Speaker 6: people making disclosures in New Zealand, how we keep ourselves honest.

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Speaker 6: How we report those who perhaps stealing money and they

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Speaker 6: shouldn't be those that are mismanaging. How often are we

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Speaker 6: kind of known that unless someone who really knows what's

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Speaker 6: going on discloses it. But I don't think it's a

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Speaker 6: matter of nakens. It's a matter of being transparent in

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Speaker 6: some conduct that's appearing. It's just not the New Zealand way.

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Speaker 3: Peter, thank you so much, always appreciate the work that

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Speaker 3: you do and giving us your time. That's Peter Bosher,

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Speaker 3: the chief onwardsman, Hey, this is the Oat Milk Company.

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Speaker 3: If you like oat milk, and frankly listen love. I

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Speaker 3: live in Ponsonbee. I don't drink dairy milk. I've done this.

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Speaker 3: I have become this person. I do not drink dairy

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Speaker 3: can I blieve a single shot pigeler blets just with

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Speaker 3: soy milk? Thanks very much. And I'm not even that

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Speaker 3: person at all. But if you hear my coffee order

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Speaker 3: you think I'm that person anyway, So now I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to be telling you all about all the plant

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Speaker 3: based milk ante so otis. The Oat Milk Company has

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Speaker 3: opened its first purpose built factory in Auckland. Up to now,

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Speaker 3: they're a New Zealand company. Up to now they've been

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Speaker 3: it was basically because they wanted to safeguard their recipe.

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Speaker 3: They got the but for whatever reason, they've now decided

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Speaker 3: somebody's going to knark their recipe to everybody else. They've

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Speaker 3: got the factory running this month in Auckland. They reckon

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Speaker 3: Thank god, because that was running out of soy milk.

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Speaker 3: I was starting to get worried. Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one giant leaf for

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Speaker 1: business used talks'd.

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Speaker 3: Be Darcy water Grave sports talk hosters with me, what's

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Speaker 3: your coffee order?

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Speaker 8: I have a flat white in a glass with no napkin,

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Speaker 8: no saucer and no spoon. I don't need any of that.

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Speaker 8: Just give me the drugs in a glass and I'm fine.

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Speaker 8: It's just excess dishes.

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Speaker 9: You can tell.

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Speaker 3: Do you realize that in the studio there are one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent of us who are just absolute word rhymes

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Speaker 3: with bankers.

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Speaker 10: Wow, this is that?

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Speaker 9: But say that coffee shop over the road scratch.

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Speaker 8: I just call it a thing because I don't even

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Speaker 8: know what they know about you, and they know what

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Speaker 8: a thing is, so they just give me my thing.

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Speaker 3: These were weird, the pair of us. Hey, so South Abline.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised that this is their first ever Crinket T

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Speaker 3: twenty World Cup final.

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Speaker 8: They've only one one in ten knockout game in World Cups.

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Speaker 3: How is this possible?

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Speaker 9: Because they choke, They've dropped World Cups.

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Speaker 8: They've been rolled by New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Their T twenty tournament paying.

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Speaker 8: Off for them, the one they had at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that they come up again.

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Speaker 8: They come up against Afghanistan, who I think had played

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Speaker 8: their final when they won against Australia and then they

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Speaker 8: beat New Zealand and they got rolled for at fifty

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Speaker 8: the only wicket, so they did it in ten overs easy.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 8: Now they're waiting now for England the India and whoever

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Speaker 8: Now we know when go through lose. Great, it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: Now really yeah interesting, Freddie, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Going to join us start to seven o'clock to talk

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it. That's Darcy water Grave. That's

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Speaker 3: sports Talk at seven o'clock this evening, four twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Heather, just be careful with the swim all that you

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Speaker 13: Don't mean to be rude or make lighter, but you

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Speaker 14: So they'd already seen it, and it was yeah, all

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Speaker 3: They'd Julian Nassange has safety returned to Australia. He's been

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Speaker 15: Will being investigated and criminal proceedings will be initiated against him.

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Speaker 3: And finally, pop singer Robbie Williams has had a really

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Speaker 3: At least he's a good saw day Murray Old's Ossie

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Speaker 18: economists who are now saying, as you correctly point out,

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Speaker 18: the Reserve Bank will have to increase the official cash

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Speaker 18: rate before Christmas, maybe as early as the first week

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Speaker 18: of August when the boarders meet next, and that's only

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Speaker 18: days after the next inflation data for the June quarter

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Speaker 18: comes out. There will be pressure on the raise the

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Speaker 18: official cash rate. The Reserve Bank wants inflation back down

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Speaker 18: between two and three percent. Four percent out of the question.

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Speaker 18: They're not going to let that stay there, and they

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Speaker 18: are trying to slow down the economy. So maybe just

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Speaker 18: what's the space?

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Speaker 3: So is Bruce Lherman up for some legal costs?

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Speaker 13: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 18: I mean Channel ten has popped up in the federal

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Speaker 18: court today and said, I mean, look, his failed defamation

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Speaker 18: cost us almost well three and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 18: We're prepared to accept two million dollars as partial payment

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Speaker 18: for mister Luhrman. Well, good luck with that. He hasn't

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Speaker 18: got two brush tax to rub together. The Obviously, Luhman

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Speaker 18: sued Channel ten over that interview. He was defamed, he

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Speaker 18: said in an interview that Ten conducted with Britney Higgins

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Speaker 18: in which she alled she'd been raped in Parliament House.

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Speaker 18: So Lhman missed that he failed to prove that Ten

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Speaker 18: had defamed him. He's been ordered now to pay two

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Speaker 18: million dollars. Well, good luck doesn't have the cash. Lisa Wilkinson, also,

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Speaker 18: we understand, has now settled her dispute with Channel ten.

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Speaker 18: She wasn't happy with the legal team that ten had assembled.

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Speaker 18: She went out and hired her own silks. Well, that

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Speaker 18: bill came in at about one and a half one

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Speaker 18: point seven million dollars and Ten's now agreed to pay

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Speaker 18: half a million dollars of a legal fee. So that

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Speaker 18: means that she's up for over a million dollars herself.

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Speaker 18: It's a mess never been anything other than a mess vote,

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Speaker 18: and let's just hope we can draw a line under this.

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Speaker 3: Right, Mars, thank you very much, enjoy your weekend. Murray

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Speaker 3: Old's Ossie correspondent.

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Speaker 19: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, as I mentioned, Wellington City Council managed to get

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Speaker 3: their long term plan voted through today, but you know,

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Speaker 3: as you would expect, the debate was quite contentious. The

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Speaker 3: disagreements over the sale of the shares in Wellington Airport

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Speaker 3: was what was creating the rifts in the left wing block,

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Speaker 3: which is usually quite united. So it's probably not a

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Speaker 3: shock that during the debate the mayor and counselors got

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Speaker 3: on each other's nerves.

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Speaker 2: So if the hopes the green was a left twig alto.

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Speaker 20: And so can you keep it relevant to the debate totally?

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Speaker 3: Is it's actually can you make a portal of order please, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Then Councilor Rebecca Matthews of Labor made this impassioned plea

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Speaker 3: for civility.

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Speaker 20: I do not want to be like that, and I

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Speaker 20: will continue to not be like that, and I will

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Speaker 20: govern responsibly according to.

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Speaker 2: My values and not be to any of you.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Wellington, what is this trash? In the end, Mayor

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Speaker 3: Tory Faro had to lay down the law.

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Speaker 20: Counselor, I'm going to ask you no, this is democracy,

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Speaker 20: and I'll actually ask the gallery to calm yourselves as well.

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Speaker 3: And then with everyone brought into line, Tory got back

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Speaker 3: on with the business of democracy. And then she remembered

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Speaker 3: just in time, she's not actually supposed to tell everybody

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Speaker 3: which way to vote, even inadvertently.

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Speaker 20: Okay, we're going to move to a vote, but we're

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Speaker 20: going to take one C first, so police vote for

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Speaker 20: one CE.

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Speaker 4: Or against.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, for the sake of Wellington, would

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Speaker 3: it not have been better if they failed to pass

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Speaker 3: their own long term plan and we got some grown

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Speaker 3: ups in there? We near the counselor. Niko Weenedra is

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Speaker 3: going to be with us after half US five Barriy

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Speaker 3: Soapers next sixteen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics Credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soopowers and your political correspondence with us. Barry, Hello,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon. Hi, you got an update on the Darling

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Speaker 3: Tanna inquiry.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know it's time to be an update. Wouldn't

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Speaker 9: you think it's been going on for well in a

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Speaker 9: couple of weeks time, it will be four months the

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Speaker 9: last bill that the tax par was told it would

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Speaker 9: have to pay or they would have to pay as

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Speaker 9: forty three thousand dollars, so you can imagine it's much

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Speaker 9: more than that now. But the update is that the

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Speaker 9: Bert inquiry that's the barrister or the solicitor who took

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Speaker 9: up the inquiry on behalf of the Greens, that has

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Speaker 9: now been complete and the parties that the Greens and

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Speaker 9: Darlene Tana actually have the report. Now they'll consider it

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Speaker 9: and then hopefully we'll hear something next week. Now, it

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Speaker 9: didn't come from the Greens. The Greens have been like

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Speaker 9: a brick wall on this thing. It's been very difficult

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Speaker 9: for them in terms of saying anything about it. The

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Speaker 9: Chloe Swarbrick's phones off the hook. But yes, that's the

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Speaker 9: good authority I have is that the report is complete

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Speaker 9: and hopefully we'll hear something next week as to what

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Speaker 9: will now take place.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you know for a fact it's coming out

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Speaker 3: out next week? How long do they have to respond

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Speaker 3: to it?

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Speaker 9: Well, how long is a piece of string? You know

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Speaker 9: that they've got the report. They've mucked around for four

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Speaker 9: months now obviously their enquirer has come to some sort

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Speaker 9: of conclusion. So both have been presented with that and

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Speaker 9: the next week.

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Speaker 3: Well next week, next week would suit them, wouldn't it,

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Speaker 3: because it's a recess week. That's right, very hard to

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Speaker 3: be able to track these various MPs down in the

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Speaker 3: Drug party.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I would expect it.

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Speaker 3: Next speaking of the Green Party, can Golra's garment if

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Speaker 3: she has been convicted, practice law?

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Speaker 9: Yes she can. She can apply in two years and

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Speaker 9: it's really over to the law society to decide whether

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Speaker 9: she's a fit and proper person to be practicing law.

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Speaker 9: It was interesting today because you know, it had been

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Speaker 9: a journ the sentencing, and I think there was an

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Speaker 9: expectation that she might have been charge without conviction because

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Speaker 9: she is a lawyer. But I think the judge was

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Speaker 9: very realistic. I mean, this wasn't just one a one

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Speaker 9: off shoplifting. It was a spree, as the prosecution said.

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Speaker 9: So now in fact, she will spend the next two

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Speaker 9: years contemplating what her future is going to be. But

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Speaker 9: like you, I watched the interview that she gave to

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Speaker 9: TV and Z and I've got to say it was

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Speaker 9: a rambling sort of affair. It was a bizarre interview

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Speaker 9: where Garriman seemed to be talking about herself and the

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Speaker 9: third person. Have I listened to this bit?

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Speaker 14: It was bizarre behavior. That's what self sabotage looks like.

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Speaker 14: It's not like you want to get away with it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know what I took. It's not

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Speaker 14: like you're going to get anything out of you know,

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Speaker 14: it is sabotage, but it's sabotage that hurts others in

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Speaker 14: my case, and you know, beyond the immediate victims being

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Speaker 14: the shop owners, it's hurting you know, political party that

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Speaker 14: I cared deeply about that I've been in for years

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Speaker 14: before I ever ran as a candidate.

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Speaker 3: You know, my parents.

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Speaker 9: And she also said in the interview that she Shotlifted

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Speaker 9: because she wanted to get out of politics. I mean

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Speaker 9: for goodness sake, because she essentially said she knew she

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Speaker 9: should be found out. Well, I would think for her

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Speaker 9: knowledge there would be easier ways to get out of

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Speaker 9: politics are going into a shop for ext and nicking

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Speaker 9: stone for example.

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Speaker 3: The first offense that we're aware of, being the Creative

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Speaker 3: Works in Wellington offense is eight days after the general election,

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Speaker 3: a general election, she did not need to stand in

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Speaker 3: if she wanted to leave politics. Yeah, but hollow way. Anyway, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. How are you feeling about the

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Speaker 3: Trump Biden debate? Are you fizzing for it?

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Speaker 17: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I'm totally fizzing for it. It'll be for the political

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Speaker 9: tragics like me. It'll be on at one o'clock on

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Speaker 9: CNN tomorrow afternoon. Now, I got a email from Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump himself today, as he's prone to, said he's upgrade

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Speaker 9: upgrading me to a diamond Trump status. He said, basically,

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Speaker 9: you know you are the most exclusive group.

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Speaker 3: And how much money are you giving him? Barry?

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Speaker 9: He said, there are currently zero members and I could

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Speaker 9: be the first, and there's diamond club for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: But look, this will be the first time that because

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Speaker 9: I covered the election the first. It's a shrewd man

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Speaker 9: old Donald Trump, no doubt about that. But four years

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Speaker 9: ago was the last time these men have shared a stage.

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Speaker 9: The debate was something of a yelling match. Most of

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Speaker 9: your listeners will remember this short exchange.

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Speaker 18: Vote Now in the fact that sure you in fact

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Speaker 18: let people know, Senator question, I'm not going to answer

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Speaker 18: the question because.

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Speaker 9: The question the question left. I'll tell you what they've

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Speaker 9: installed now, and they did that was the first debate,

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Speaker 9: the second debate back four years ago, they had dump

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Speaker 9: buttons or sorry button mute buttons, and they're going to

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Speaker 9: have those for this debate tomorrow, so you won't get

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Speaker 9: that over talk well, you know, to an extended is.

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Speaker 9: But I'd actually like to hear what these guys have

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Speaker 9: got to say. I mean, Biden is now eighty one,

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump's seventy eight, two old codgers running for what

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Speaker 9: has always been said as the most powerful position in

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Speaker 9: the world.

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Speaker 3: You just have to wonder what the world's come to too, right,

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Speaker 3: Barry Soopah, thank you seeing your political correspondent. Seven away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 2: Entertain the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 21: I want are a leief to have a few entrepreneurs

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Speaker 21: about the place with news of something bold and progressive.

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Speaker 21: One hundred million dollar surf park and Auton's been given

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Speaker 21: the green lights to John Kerwan as one of the partners,

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Speaker 21: and listen these with.

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Speaker 15: Us, Mike.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to take you surfing and surfing like in

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Speaker 12: about a month.

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Speaker 21: You'd be out there for entertainment purposes. Only I can

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Speaker 21: assure you to be more than just a wave park.

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Speaker 22: I think you have to now is that thing about this?

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Speaker 22: For me? It's about community. So what does the community

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Speaker 22: want now? Just can't be for surfers, you know, although

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Speaker 22: this too two four thousand surfers in Auckland alone. The

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Speaker 22: data center makes it sustainable. We're very teen to try

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Speaker 22: and put a solar farm up there as well, try

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Speaker 22: and make it as off the great as possible.

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Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: Maybe's Real Estate News Talk zb Hea.

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Speaker 3: There isn't it amazing how quickly the Darlene Tana investigation

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Speaker 3: was wrapped up, only two days after the Green said

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Speaker 3: they were going to start paying for themselves. Isn't that

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Speaker 3: just so interesting? Have you to let the tags baya

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Speaker 3: bay bay bay ba ba ba baebee Now we're paying

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Speaker 3: stop stop stop stop, Rachel stop, can't afford you anymore.

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Speaker 3: We've got the old crime and Victim survey which has

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Speaker 3: just come out shows that our trust in the police

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Speaker 3: is continuing to fall, and we will talk about that

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Speaker 3: in the next half hour, but also that there's been

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Speaker 3: a significant rising crime in a couple of categories. One

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Speaker 3: of them is car thefts and then the other one

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Speaker 3: is online fraud, so you're not imagining the scams. Is

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Speaker 3: going to talk to the CEO of net Safe shortly.

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Speaker 3: He's with us just before we talk about the fact

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Speaker 3: that multi vitamins are apparently a raught. There's been a

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00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: massive study and they reckon it's so a nutritionist will

658
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: run us through that. You want a little bit more Goalers,

659
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: This is goal was saying that the Greens weren't really

660
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: supporting her properly anymore.

661
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 14: I think the last time I felt fully, sort of

662
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 14: proactively supported was when Torey Farno was our chief of staff,

663
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Speaker 14: and I think as another woman of color existing in

664
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 14: that realm, you know, she was someone who would go

665
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 14: You said in the morning meeting that you've gotten two

666
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 14: more death threats, because I would, I'd just go, there's

667
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 14: too more with police this week?

668
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: You just keep going.

669
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: Didn't sound that's truthful. Was it just a couple more

670
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: with police? Yeah, not a big get. Do you know

671
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like this, I feel like there's a

672
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: jarring thing going on.

673
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 19: Ye.

674
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: It was either so stressful you went shoplifting or it wasn't,

675
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: which is it? Anyway, We'll talk to the Herald reporter

676
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: who was there in court today shortly.

677
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: And the only drive show you can trust to ask

678
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: the questions, get the answers by the facts and give

679
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: the analysis.

680
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: Hither due to clam drive with one.

681
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: New Zealand let's get connected and new talksz'd be afternoon.

682
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: Golra's Garriment has been convicted for theft. She'd ask for

683
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: a discharge without conviction, but Judge June Jealous denied that application. Instead,

684
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 3: she was fined sixteen hundred dollars, which she was convicted.

685
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: Then she was fined sixteen hundred dollars, and then she

686
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: was ordered to pay court costs of two hundred and

687
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: sixty dollars. Herald reporter Craig Capitan was in court for

688
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: US High Craig, Hi, Heather, how are you very well?

689
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 23: Thank you?

690
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: Did the judge say why she didn't buy the discharge

691
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: without conviction argument?

692
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 24: Well, no she didn't in court. Actually she hasn't yet

693
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 24: released her full simencing notes, but she did say simply

694
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 24: that the statutory test.

695
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: Are not the net the what sorry had not been met?

696
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 23: Sorry?

697
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 24: The statutory test all right, were her discharge without conviction?

698
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 24: And I know that's a bit of a legally, basically,

699
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 24: the law requires that caught the consequent that conviction needs

700
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 24: to be out of all proportion to the gravity or

701
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 24: seriousness of this fence if you're not going to have

702
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 24: a conviction. So the Crown had argued on Monday that

703
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 24: that wasn't the case. This is a serious repeat offending

704
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 24: involving significant breach of trust given her position of power.

705
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 24: And then the defense argued unsuccessfully, of course, that the

706
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 24: setbacks that would come with the conviction would be out

707
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 24: of all proportion to her defending, especially when you take

708
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 24: into account the mental health aspects of the case.

709
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: What does this mean for Goldriz Garriman's legal career? Can

710
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: she practice law when she has a conviction like this?

711
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 24: Well, that's really to be determined. Nothing is stopping her

712
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 24: from applying for a law license. Again, her lawyer did

713
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 24: argue quite insistently that a conviction does present a significant

714
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 24: hurdle to convincing the law society that she's spit to practice.

715
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 24: That the Crown noted that a conviction doesn't necessarily mean

716
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 24: she's automatically barred. The law society would have to look

717
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 24: at the whole picture like the judge should. The concept

718
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 24: basically if she is barred, it'll be because of her

719
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 24: own offending, not because of any decision that judge made

720
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 24: in court today.

721
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Does this prevent from going anywhere in the world She

722
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: can travel freely or not.

723
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 24: Yes, she can move the country, although some nations like

724
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 24: a Canada and the United States do make it more

725
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 24: difficult for those with convictions to enter. She'll likely have

726
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 24: to fill out more forms, face more scrutiny than the

727
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 24: average traveler. So I wouldn't say she can travel freely,

728
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 24: but it's not an end to traveling.

729
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it means now we know that she's done this

730
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: interview with John Campbell, and she's issued a statement to

731
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: another media outlet, but she otherwise has been stune right left.

732
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: Court said nothing, Yeah, exactly.

733
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 25: She did.

734
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 24: Immediate asked for an affidavit that she had submitted to

735
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 24: the court, and she didn't put up an opposition to that.

736
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 24: So at some point we may get a little bit

737
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 24: more from her own words. But of course that's a

738
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 24: lot different than a media scrum where you're kicking questions.

739
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Hey, Craig, listen, thank you very much.

740
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: Really appreciated this, Craig Captain. The Herald's reporter who was

741
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: in court for.

742
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: Us ever do for Ellen.

743
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: The latest crime and Victim survey is out. It shows

744
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: our confidence and trust and police are still falling. It's

745
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: revealed one hundred and eighty five thousand kiwis experienced violent

746
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: crime in the last year and there's been a significant

747
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: rise in crime in two categories car thefts, but also

748
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: online fraud. Brent Carry is the CEO of netsafe.

749
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 24: Hey Brent Hey, Heather.

750
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: Apparently ten percent of us experienced fraud in the last year.

751
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: Is that number real?

752
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 15: Yeah, one in ten and certainly we're getting twenty percent

753
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 15: increase in scam reports to net safe, So it's a

754
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 15: growing crime.

755
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean when you say fraud, I'm imagining getting scammed

756
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: out of a whole bunch of money. Is that it's

757
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: got to be more than that. It's got to be

758
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: smaller than that to be that many people.

759
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 15: Right, Well, I think that's right. I think people now

760
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 15: know how to spot a scam more and are reporting

761
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 15: it more. We want them to report even those low

762
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 15: level scams because that's that is fraud.

763
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: So what kind of fraud is caught up in that

764
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: big number.

765
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 15: I think all types of deception crime, all types of

766
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 15: advertising scams, impersonation scams, romance scams. All of those are

767
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 15: caught up in that reporting number.

768
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: Given it's so big, and given it is increasing at

769
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: the rate that it is, are we taking it seriously enough?

770
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 15: Well, we think that the government should do more here

771
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 15: and recording on the governments create an anti scam center

772
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 15: so that we can all get a handle on this

773
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 15: growing international crime as well, reports of sextortion, reports of

774
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 15: victim crime online is just growing as more and more

775
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 15: people are online shopping and online.

776
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, because at the moment it's been run out of

777
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: a division of the police, isn't it.

778
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 15: So there's little number of agencies that all tackle fraud.

779
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 15: And what we want to do is coordinate and create

780
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 15: an anti scam center that's backed by government that can

781
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 15: take these types of reports and get a handle on

782
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 15: the trend.

783
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: Brent, thank you very much, appreciate it. Brent, carry net save.

784
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: CEO Heather do for CLA.

785
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 26: Yeah.

786
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: My bet is that once Darline gets the boot, Torri

787
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: Fano gets the not having recently rejoined the Greens. Well, actually,

788
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: you have got to be wrong on that. And the

789
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: reason you've got to be wrong on that is because

790
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: as we were just mentioning before the long term plan

791
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: for the Wellington City Council was passed today and in

792
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: doing that, Tory Faro was one of the people, one

793
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: of the nine counselors who voted for the sale of

794
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: the airport shares. Now the Green Party opposes the sale

795
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: of the airport shares and there was a threat earlier

796
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: this week that they want to block anybody who voted

797
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: for the sale of the airport shares. Was what Tory

798
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: Fano did from standing on a Green ticket again. Now,

799
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: whether that was just like a view that was held

800
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: by a few nutters in the Green Party or a

801
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: widespread belief in the Green Party, No, but there's another

802
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: Green councilor Niko we near it, who's going to be

803
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: with us after half plus five. We'll ask them that question.

804
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know that Tori is

805
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: a shoe in for a Green MP just at the minute,

806
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: got a little bit of bad economic news for you. Unfortunately, BMI,

807
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: which is an international research group, has just lowered its

808
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: prediction for what GDP growth is going to be like

809
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: for New Zealand in the next year, like over the

810
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: year that we're in the calendar year twenty twenty four.

811
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: They were thinking it was going to be one point

812
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: two percent. They have now dropped that to one percent.

813
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Now one point two down to one is like, you know,

814
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: it's not huge. It's significant though, because anything, frankly at

815
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: the moment, will take anything we can get. They are

816
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: saying weak growth in the first quarter indicates that the

817
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: domestic macroeconomic environment may be facing more challenges than anticipated.

818
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: And the reason that that is significant them doing this

819
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: is because we are undiscrutiny at the moment from the

820
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: ratings agencies who are looking at us very very closely

821
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: to see if they need to be dropping us. And

822
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: you don't need this kind of stuff going around at

823
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: the minute. Fourteen past five, Yeah, the confidence in the

824
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: police is actually on the increase. Most people admit they've

825
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: seen them actually out doing their job in the last

826
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: six months more so than in the last six years,

827
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: which actually is a fair point from Roy. But no,

828
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: unfortunately the numbers say it's on the decrease. I'm going

829
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: to run you through that shortly. We'll do it before

830
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: this half hours through coming up seventeen past five. Now,

831
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: apparently multi vitamins are a bit of a rut so.

832
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: According to a new study out of the US. The

833
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: study looked at about four hundred thousand generally healthy Americans

834
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: over twenty years found that multivitamins did not help them

835
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: live any longer, and actually daily multi vitamin usage was

836
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: associated with a four percent higher risk of mortality. Nicki

837
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: Heart is a nutritionist in with US. Now.

838
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 19: Hey, Nikki, Hey, Heather, how are you doing.

839
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm good? Thank you? Do you take them?

840
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: No?

841
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: Why not at all?

842
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 19: Well, I just think it's like hope in Ajar and

843
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 19: I think that's what people are using it for. They

844
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 19: think it's magic, and I think it can. I think

845
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 19: it's extensive, Heather. You know, in this time and age

846
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 19: where food is, you know, Chris to everybody's health and

847
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 19: well being. I wouldn't spend my money on a vitamin.

848
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 19: I just wouldn't.

849
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Do You really believe, though, that people are more likely

850
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: to die, which is the sort of suggestion from this

851
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: because they take multi vitamins.

852
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 19: I think what's actually happening is that if you have

853
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 19: a condition, you think that by taking a multi vitamin

854
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 19: it's going to make things better. So perhaps you are

855
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 19: taking a multi vitamin and you are already unwell to

856
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 19: maybe half of these diabets.

857
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: Is it's also is it also possible that you start

858
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: taking multi vitamins and thinking you don't need to eat

859
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: your spinach, and then as a result, you die earlier.

860
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 19: And you know, I think that's half the problem is

861
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 19: that we talk in macro and micro nutrients, but I

862
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 19: don't think we realize or we need to explain to

863
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 19: people that food is a matrix. For example, when we

864
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 19: think of bread, we only think of carbohydrate, but actually

865
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 19: there's protein there, There's vitamin B, vitamins, you know, there's

866
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 19: lots of things in it. We've got to actually stop

867
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 19: breaking it down into micros and macros and actually talk

868
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 19: about food being the best option because there's things in

869
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 19: it that are more than just a multi vitamin.

870
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So I can throw a multi vitamins away and

871
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: just keep eating all my food. As long as I'm

872
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: eating a healthy diet, I'll be fine.

873
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 19: Well, unless you actually have a diagnosed deficiency. So there's

874
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 19: a couple of things where I think we need to

875
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 19: be cautious. Like if you are a menstruating female and

876
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 19: you are playing a lot of sport and you don't

877
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 19: hit a lot of red meat. If you have a

878
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 19: blood test and you figure that you're deficient, then yes,

879
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 19: an iron supplement prescribed is important. But just taking vitamins

880
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 19: willy nilly, is actually not that great. In fact, we

881
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 19: know that if you take large amounts of zinc it

882
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 19: can cause a copper deficiency. So just taking things is

883
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 19: actually not a great way to do it unless you

884
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 19: have a diagnosed deficiency.

885
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: Hey, would you, Nikki, would you take a little bit

886
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: of vitamin C through the winter, just to keep it

887
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: up a little bit?

888
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 19: I'd rather eat a Kiwi fruit, just.

889
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: One Kiwi fruit today and you're happy ass Well.

890
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 19: We know there was a study done during COVID and

891
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 19: it was due to lockdown and children not coping for

892
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 19: you well, and we found that two Kiwi fruit today

893
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 19: not only improved their sleep, but improved their general health

894
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 19: and their mental health and their well being.

895
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to shove it in the face when I

896
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: get home.

897
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 19: I would yeah, exactly. Just you know what, it's not

898
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 19: that hard. We just I think we spend our money

899
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 19: on vitamins when in fact, actually I would rather you

900
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 19: save that money and buy food.

901
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: Good from you, Nikki. Thank you very much, Nikki. Heart

902
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: nutrition us here she had me at it makes the

903
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: baby sleep better? Like you one Kiwi fruit a day,

904
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: do you sit them at the table and be like,

905
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: maybe cookie It not until you eat that Kiwi fruit

906
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: will have a standoff. A bit of disappointing update for

907
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: you on a situation because the Greens are just you know,

908
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: winning at the moment. Guess what Chloe's been doing again.

909
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Guess what she did today?

910
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 7: Listen, And that's really all I have to say, if

911
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 7: I know, I'd just like to close off with some

912
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 7: words that.

913
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: They have tried, really.

914
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 7: Bloody heart to take out of my mouth and the

915
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 7: mouth of many others.

916
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Run the river, do the same, the same.

917
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

918
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: So remember how she was busted doing that last year

919
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, and then in November

920
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: everybody gave her a hard time over it had to

921
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: do all the interviews, and then she apologized to those

922
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: who have felt offended, and we all said, that's not

923
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: a real apology, Chloe, you're not really sorry. Well guess

924
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: what she wasn't really sorry, because she's done it again.

925
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: And just in case you remain to this day weirdly

926
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: blissfully unaware of why this is offensive, it's because it's

927
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: widely considered to be a call to either wipe out

928
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: the Jewish people all together, which is genocide, or get

929
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: rid of the state of Israel. So either way, not

930
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: really cool from Chloe to be doing it again. So

931
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: next time Chloe does an apology, just make sure she

932
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: does a proper apology, because here you go is your example.

933
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: Five twenty one.

934
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

935
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Allen drive with One New Zealand to

936
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: get connected and news talk as they'd be.

937
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: Five twenty four Listen on that crime survey which we

938
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: were just talking about before. I have to be honest

939
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: with you. I feel sorry for individual police officers who

940
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: have to have a look at the survey and think

941
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: that this is what we think of them, because I

942
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 3: think it's clearly not a reflection of how we feel

943
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: about the police officers that we confront and meet on

944
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: a day to day basis or whenever we do. Because

945
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 3: eighty three percent of us in the survey say that

946
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: the police act professionally. But the figure that they will

947
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: be looking at and feeling upset about is the fact

948
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: that only two thirds of us now say that we

949
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: have trust and confidence in the coppers. I don't think

950
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: that's a reflection on individual police officers. I think that's

951
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: a reflection of two things, our trust and confidence in

952
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: the police commissioner and the direction that he set the

953
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: organization in, and our trust and confidence in the cops

954
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: actually turning up when we need them. Now, the police

955
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: commissioner we've talked about, right, you know what the problem

956
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: is that it's basically him telling his officers to facilitate

957
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: gang convoys even if they act up, rather than cracking

958
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: down on them. It's police by consent, which really to

959
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: the public came to me and basically waving crime through

960
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: and being soft on crime. That stuff has now largely

961
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: been fixed. I mean, I think unfortunately he will always

962
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: be a problem for the organization, but it's been fixed

963
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: because the new government has told to pull a socks

964
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: up and he is obviously going a lot harder now.

965
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: But the other problem I think is a little harder

966
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: to fix, and that is the lack of trust in

967
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: the fact that the cops are going to turn up.

968
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a case this past weekend. I

969
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 3: don't know if you saw it, family and Coatsville woken

970
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: up at three and by a lunatic who drove through

971
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 3: the gates of their driveway, drove up to the house

972
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: and started trying to get in, trying to basically break

973
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: into his house, into their house at three in the morning.

974
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: They freaked out, as any of us would. The mum

975
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: had the kids in a safe space, told them not

976
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: to come out under any circumstances, and then put a

977
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: bed in front of it to try and protect them.

978
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: Imagine how scary that is. The parents then themselves armed

979
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: themselves with a knife and a bat, called the cops

980
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: and had to wait for forty minutes for the police

981
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: to turn up. In a situation where a guy is

982
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: actively trying to get into the house. Now I think

983
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: that that, I mean, that freaks me out right. That

984
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: would freak many of us out. And it makes you

985
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: wonder if the cops are going to be there when

986
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: you need them, or how long you're going to have

987
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: to wait. And how many stories have we heard now

988
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: of the police not investigating burglaries because they're too busy,

989
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: not even turning up because they're too busy, not going

990
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: to get the e bike back when the tracking device

991
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: tells the owner exactly in which house this bike is,

992
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: who's nicked it? Not going to that either. Now that

993
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: is not the fault of police officers. I mean that's

994
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: the fault of an organization that just frankly doesn't have

995
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 3: enough people, doesn't have enough warm bodies, does it and

996
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: getting those warm bodies and actually takes a really really

997
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: long time to fix, but they need to fix it.

998
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: They need to fix it. Or the seventy four percent

999
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: trust in twenty twenty one becomes sixty nine percent trust

1000
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two becomes sixty seven percent trust last

1001
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: year because less and then becomes less than two thirds,

1002
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: much much less than that next time we do the survey.

1003
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: Not the fault of the officers, but the fault of

1004
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: the people who are running the place.

1005
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Really, Heather duplic Ellen to talk to.

1006
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: The Wellington City councilor who's a greenie who hated what

1007
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: happened today, which was at the long term plan went through.

1008
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I suppose they should be happy that they're

1009
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: going to keep their jobs. But he's going to be

1010
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: with us shortly just after the headlines which are coming up.

1011
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: You'll have seen the news actually today it's got a

1012
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: lot of people talking. Cadbury has stopped making these chocolate

1013
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: fish the twenty gram versions. You can still get the

1014
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: little ones in the favorites boxes, and you can still

1015
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to sholl out a bit,

1016
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: we'll get the Queen Anne ones with the like really

1017
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: soft gooey stuff in the middle and stuff anyway, but

1018
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 3: still significant that the chocolate fish's fish fish are being

1019
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: ended because that was the reward. Do you remember back

1020
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: in the day, They're like, you do well and you

1021
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: get a chocolate fish.

1022
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: So what are we doing now?

1023
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: What's the reward that if we're not giving chocolate fish

1024
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: out to the kids and frankly sometimes even your colleagues

1025
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: just for trying a little bit, what are we doing?

1026
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: It feels like a real loss, doesn't it? Headlines next

1027
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: it is beautiful?

1028
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Says it.

1029
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: Hard questions strong opinion Heather due for see Ellen Drive

1030
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: with One New Zealand Let's get connected and news talk

1031
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: sid Be.

1032
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 9: When you're playing some boy he's drinking night, you think

1033
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 9: him about me.

1034
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: When you're riding where he's driving though, you here's last

1035
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: damn it, Sammy.

1036
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: Like the huddle's standing by after six o'clock. We're gonna

1037
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: have a chat to the AA because Simeon Brown, the

1038
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: Transport Minister, has confirmed that the cost of your regio

1039
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: is going to go up. The fuel tax is going

1040
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: to go in Auckland, the roads of oh well, this

1041
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 3: fuel tax is going to go up. In general, it's

1042
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: the exos fuel tax later on and the roads of

1043
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: significance are likely to be told. All stuff that when

1044
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: you was coming but has just been confirmed. And I

1045
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: think he's also confirmed and defended the cut in the

1046
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: cycle lane budget, so that should get some people quite

1047
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: worked up. Heather. We give people a kiwi fruit instead

1048
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: of a chocolate fish, that's disappointing. Hither we give out

1049
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: buzz bars, Heather, instead of chocolate fish. My work gives

1050
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: out high five cars, comes with the free coffee, absolutely sorted.

1051
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: My work actually incidentally gives you a colorful lanyard. I

1052
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: didn't even realize this until yes, of course I've got

1053
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: one of them. Of course I've got one of them.

1054
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: You get what's your color? Ants?

1055
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 10: I don't have a lanyard anymore, Heather, Sorry.

1056
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: What's your what's Laura's color? She got green? It's like

1057
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: a black she is you got black lanyard? And then

1058
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: the color. This is pathetic, isn't it? The color that

1059
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: you have your zed Me, This is a company we

1060
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: work for. The color of nzed Me tells you whether

1061
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 3: you're a champion or not. So Laura's just got boring

1062
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: old jade. It's just like nothing. If you've got a

1063
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: blue or a purple or a pink and nothing, what

1064
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: you want is the yellow, like me, because that means

1065
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: it's gold. You're a champion. That's what we get. I

1066
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: would just like to remind the CEO that I don't

1067
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: want any of this stuff. I don't want to buzzbar

1068
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: and I want to care for it. I don't want

1069
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: a lanyard, I don't want chocolate fresh. I want to

1070
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: pay rice. That's all we want. We want the dollars

1071
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: a twenty three away.

1072
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: From six together do for ce Ellen.

1073
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: Wellington City Council has dodged government intervention in the shape

1074
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: of commissioners because they managed to pass their long term

1075
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 3: plan today, which included selling the council's shares in Wellington Airport.

1076
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: Now that wasn't without some pretty hefty opposition. A Green

1077
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: councilor Nico we Near tried to force a second vote

1078
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 3: on the airport sale yesterday he wasn't successful. Labor Councilor

1079
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 3: Ben McNulty had another go at that today the Mayor

1080
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: overruled him.

1081
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 20: I am going to rule out this amendment out of

1082
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 20: order understanding Order twenty one point ten if as it

1083
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 20: would negate a motion carried at a committee meeting under

1084
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 20: its delegated authority. Not are the decision that we made yesterday.

1085
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 20: If I could ask counselors to calm yourselves, this is

1086
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 20: my writer's chair.

1087
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: Niko whu near is with us? Now? Hey, Nico, how

1088
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: are you? I'm very well, thank you. How are you feeling?

1089
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: You must be disappointed.

1090
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it's a bit of a kick in the gut, say,

1091
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 12: but you know you got to turn up to the

1092
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 12: office in the morning, so what can you do?

1093
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: Were you happy to tank the long term plan? Was

1094
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: that the aim to tank the long term plan in

1095
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: order to stop the sale of the airport chairs.

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 12: No, And in fact there was a vote that I

1097
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 12: took with some pretty great reluctance because there is actually

1098
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 12: some solid stuff in the rest of the plan. It's

1099
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 12: just unfortunately predicated on one ginormous transaction which I feel

1100
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 12: to be really, really wrong.

1101
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: What's wrong with it?

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00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, it's throwing away one of the

1103
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 12: very few revenue streams we actually have a council that

1104
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 12: isn't just your rates for example. You know, local government

1105
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 12: is pretty constrained and ways to actually get money to

1106
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 12: do stuff, and the airport is one of the very

1107
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 12: few angles we have to do that. But even more

1108
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 12: than that, on a general principle, we shouldn't be selling

1109
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 12: public assets, particularly ones that are natural monopolies in the

1110
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 12: sense that there's only one airport and it also provides

1111
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 12: a pretty good return.

1112
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: Now it's notable that you were in the Green Party

1113
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: and the Green Party agrees with your position, which is

1114
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: not to sell the airport shares. The mayor is in

1115
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: the Green Party and did the opposite. Is the Green

1116
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: Party angry at hurt?

1117
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 12: Well, I think the first thing, as we're saying, is

1118
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 12: we're in a slightly different position because there's what's called

1119
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 12: a big G and a little G. So I've gone

1120
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 12: through a formal endorsement process and currently hold a Green

1121
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 12: endorsement as part of my role as counselor, whereas the

1122
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 12: mayor is not in that position. So we're subject to

1123
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 12: slightly different there so yeah, I would say it's yeah,

1124
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 12: that's right. So there's there's quite there's quite an active

1125
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 12: discussion amongst us Green ears at the moment as to

1126
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 12: what the situation is.

1127
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: Is that active discussion including a possibility of blocking all

1128
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: of the counselors who are aligned with the Green Party

1129
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: who voted for the airports shares sale from ever standing

1130
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: on a Green Party ticket again.

1131
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 12: I mean, I got you know, I go to work

1132
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 12: with these people in my colleague, so I won't speculate on.

1133
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: To speculate, just tell us what's happening.

1134
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 12: Well, I'm not aware of anything like that.

1135
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: I'll come on, Nico. Don't you read the papers. It

1136
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: was in the paper two days ago, if not yesterday,

1137
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: saying that the Green Party was talking about possibly blocking

1138
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: standing on the ticket again.

1139
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 12: I actually, I genuinely have not seen that. But what

1140
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 12: I will say is that's a process we take at

1141
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 12: election time every year. We don't tend to mess with

1142
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 12: people in the middle of terms. So I'm not aware

1143
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 12: of anything like that. Haven't seen the paper today. I've

1144
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 12: in meetings, so yeah, yeah.

1145
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 3: Okay, what about Jordie Rodgers and Lori Foon, both of

1146
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: whom are greenees as well who voted for it. Are

1147
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: I going to be in trouble?

1148
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 12: So Jordy voted with me on the thirtieth of May meeting.

1149
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 12: He's against the sale of the airport. Lo Fun felt differently.

1150
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 12: She has her own reasons and she's entitled to exercise them. Ultimately,

1151
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 12: it's up sorry members a.

1152
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: Do you think it's time to call in the commissioners

1153
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: or a Crown observer.

1154
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 12: I'll say two things on that, so I guess the

1155
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 12: first thing is that it's a pretty high bar. You

1156
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 12: basically have to be non functional as a council for

1157
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 12: the government to take that step. I think it's also

1158
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 12: worth saying that the Minister has not really made any

1159
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 12: noises about that until he was prompted by quite keen interviewers.

1160
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 12: The other thing I would say is, you know, if

1161
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 12: you get rid of your democratic accountability, you're still left

1162
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 12: with basically the exact same people running the council, except

1163
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 12: you just plunk in some unlinked bureaucrats to run the show.

1164
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 12: I don't think that's good for n any one. I

1165
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 12: think you basically need democratic accountability of some kind, and

1166
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 12: I think most people around the table would agree that

1167
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 12: our job is to keep an eye on how the

1168
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 12: council is run and make sure everything's you know, doing

1169
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 12: well and to the account to the public.

1170
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: Who are these keen interviews you're talking about?

1171
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 12: I can't remember it was. I think the mail was on. No,

1172
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 12: I thought some of them was on. H oh, I

1173
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 12: remember Cole stop.

1174
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: At Nico, he was on this show. If give me

1175
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: the credit for God's sake, jeez, not reading the papers,

1176
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: not listening to the news, to the radio. I don't

1177
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: know what to do with you. Nico. Thank you. I

1178
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: really appreciate time as always, mate. That's Nico. We near

1179
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: a Wellington City councilor so. I was phishing? A was

1180
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: chocolate fishing, wasn't I?

1181
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty exceptional marketing

1182
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Speaker 1: for every property.

1183
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: Huddle with me right now, Mike Munroe, former chief of

1184
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: staff to just send our dern and Fillow Riley of

1185
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: Iron do you Partner's former boss of business New Zealand?

1186
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: Hell?

1187
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 3: Are you too?

1188
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 25: There?

1189
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: You go very well? Thank you now, Mike. I was

1190
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: surprised that Goal has got convicted, were you?

1191
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 19: No?

1192
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 17: I wasn't surprised. No, I wasn't surprised.

1193
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: I thought that.

1194
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 17: I thought in the end, the course and the judge

1195
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 17: handled it very well, and I thought they struck you know,

1196
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 17: that they struck it right in terms of the conviction

1197
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 17: and the fine and the penalty. Uh, he goes here

1198
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 17: in mind that he did paid guilty, that she took

1199
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 17: responsibility immediately for her actions. You know, it was quite

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Speaker 17: it was quite a significant theft of good women. So

1201
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 17: so I think I don't think many people would have

1202
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 17: expected her to escape, you know, a conviction on this occasion.

1203
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: Bill, How do you feel about her blaming the pressure

1204
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: of the job for what she did.

1205
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 25: Lots of people blame the pressure of the job for

1206
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 25: what they do, and they blame their upbringing and they

1207
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 25: and sometimes those things are entirely appropriate to blame or

1208
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 25: to pay attention to. And in her case, sounds like

1209
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 25: she was facing some pretty ugly threat some some nasty

1210
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 25: stuff that was going on. But at the end of

1211
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 25: the day, her offending was was pretty significant over three occasions,

1212
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 25: and you know, I think I think justice was done today.

1213
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 25: If the judge had said, well, because of all these

1214
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 25: other things, we're not going to discharge with that conviction,

1215
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 25: I think the public would have said, how does the

1216
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 25: justice system work? Again, a young Mari woman, you know

1217
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 25: versus goal is you know, so I think the judge

1218
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 25: had to balance all of that, and I think I

1219
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 25: think the judgment possession a fair one of the circumstances.

1220
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 25: And I think most of much of the bubble well

1221
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 25: fair enough. It looks like MPs are treated like everyone else.

1222
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 25: I think they were sensible.

1223
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, Mike. Actually, because the judges come under

1224
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: a lot of criticism for you know, for good reason.

1225
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: It's actually a pleasing surprise to see a judge handown

1226
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: a sentence that you actually want to see handed down.

1227
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 17: Right. Yeah, I think that fight and really what Jil

1228
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 17: said that you know, the public outcry working quite significant.

1229
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 17: It means allowed to go free today. But I think

1230
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 17: you do have to look look at her back round

1231
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 17: and her life and Dora was herself is seen and pass.

1232
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 17: Her life was shaped by one of the most repressive

1233
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 17: regimes in the world. She arrived here as a nine

1234
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 17: year old. If you achieved them around, she was a

1235
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 17: child of silence, said basically, and she sort of turned

1236
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 17: her life around and became an international human rights lawyer

1237
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 17: and an EMP. But but there's no doubt. He's in

1238
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 17: a lot of stress in her life, and she had

1239
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 17: a medical diagnosis to show that she had this previously

1240
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 17: unrecognized trauma. And we've got a remember two that she's

1241
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 17: living with ancleporesis diagnosis, which would have had it like

1242
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 17: a speech in a few years ago. So there's a

1243
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 17: lot going on in the life as.

1244
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: Yep. The fair point on the ms actually come back

1245
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: to you guys, and just to take it's quarter to two.

1246
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty exceptional marketing

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1248
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: Back to the huddle Forller Raleigh and Mike Monroe. Phil,

1249
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: why do you think that the trust in police is falling?

1250
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 25: Ye, it's interesting matter, I should say. Looking at the numbers,

1251
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 25: it looks it's still pretty high. It's not as though

1252
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 25: that people don't trust the police. But Gie, it's dropping

1253
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 25: quite quickly, as we said, And I actually think that's

1254
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 25: because the felt experience of people. In other words, I

1255
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 25: see someone doing some bad stuff and they seem to

1256
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 25: get away with it. It's usually at quite petty crime level.

1257
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 25: It might be people, you know, running a red light

1258
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 25: not caring about it. It might be someone kicking someone on

1259
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 25: the street, so relatively low level stuff and they're not

1260
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 25: seeing the police react. And I think it's that sort

1261
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 25: of visible street policing, neighborhood policing that people don't see.

1262
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 25: I think that's that's what's getting and that's what's getting

1263
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 25: in the way. I think that's what's contributing to lessening trust.

1264
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 25: So I think the right strategy by the police is

1265
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 25: now being carried out where they are focusing on some

1266
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 25: of those things, more visible policing, if you like.

1267
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally agree. I mean should it should be helped

1268
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot, like I imagine by having the beat police

1269
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: and coming back, which was announced I think this week

1270
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: or last week. But they're going to need more cops, really,

1271
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: aren't they.

1272
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, and we can't have a big policeman outside

1273
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 17: every all spoil, every gully, every dairy, every jewelry stort

1274
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 17: around the country side. Look, I think the thing here

1275
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 17: is that we get to see the diet through our

1276
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 17: television screens. I'll be depressing pictures about what's happening out there.

1277
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 17: We saw that forty de night of that poor guy

1278
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 17: attacked with a hand on juries from a hawkmand I

1279
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 17: mean these things really distress people, and they're coming at

1280
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 17: us all the time, you know, through these ram rage

1281
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 17: and violent robberies. And I think the cops are sort

1282
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 17: of getting the backlash of that. People are saying, well,

1283
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 17: look like the cops do something about it. There's only

1284
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 17: so many policemen and while putting some more back on

1285
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 17: the beat, there's a good idea. We simply cannot put

1286
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 17: them everywhere to stop the crimes that people are really

1287
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 17: concerned about.

1288
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: No, that's fair, but more will always help one day.

1289
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: Hey and listen, both of you are Wellingtonian. So Phil,

1290
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: are you relieved at Wellington City Council passing the long

1291
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: term plan or were you secretly wishing that actually you

1292
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: might get some commissioners.

1293
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Speaker 25: Were Show's a bit of twistion in between it that maybe,

1294
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 25: you know, commission the Green councilor who you just had

1295
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 25: on before we came on was an illustration of the problem.

1296
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 25: With the greatest respect. So he says that he follows

1297
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 25: all the Green Party's recommendations and stuff. In other words,

1298
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 25: he's not really listening to my view, he's not really

1299
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 25: listening to people who might have a view. He's just

1300
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 25: taking some instructions from somewhere and voting accordingly, and that's

1301
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 25: part of the problem. I think when you get politics

1302
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 25: involved in local government, what I'd hope is that people

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Speaker 25: are elected by people here in Wellington, they'd be actually

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Speaker 25: reflecting the views of the people that they represent. And

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Speaker 25: I just think this is the start of the ten

1306
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 25: I think there's going to be further sort of into

1307
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 25: niceeing warfare. And I think, you know, Tory foind out,

1308
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 25: good for her for standing up and selling those shares.

1309
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 25: I think it was the right thing to do. But

1310
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Speaker 25: you know, it's just you're going to see this warfare

1311
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Speaker 25: carry on now. And I have no faith that the

1312
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 25: City of willing To will be any bit of governed

1313
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 25: in a year's time that it is now.

1314
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: Do you have that faith? Mike?

1315
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, I.

1316
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Speaker 17: Think that you know, I in city, like cities country,

1317
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 17: are under enormous pressure because of our company infrastructure and

1318
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 17: enormous problems, and the cities have to find the money

1319
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 17: in an other ways other than just bumping up rights

1320
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 17: of the year by watering sums. So I think that

1321
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 17: was probably the right call in the end. That's all

1322
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 17: the council Cheerholding has worked about two hundred and eighty

1323
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 17: million ares, I understand might be a bit more than that.

1324
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 17: And the money is going to go into a perpetual

1325
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 17: investment fund. And that's a good idea because you know,

1326
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 17: the investment costing and enormous over the decades ahead. So look,

1327
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 17: I think that maybe the right call. I wouldn't take

1328
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Speaker 17: this call about all these musterings about a commission of

1329
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 17: being brought in very seriously. I don't think they and

1330
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 17: Brown wants to do that. I think it what's the

1331
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 17: councilor to get on and you know, with the important

1332
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 17: business of building the feet Yeah.

1333
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Speaker 3: Too right, Hey Mike, well I've got you have you heard?

1334
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: Have you heard musterings though within the Labor party that

1335
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: they want to punish the Labor counselors who voted through

1336
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: the long term plan or for the airport airport share sales.

1337
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 17: I didn't haven't punished, but I know that there's you know,

1338
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 17: there's different views in the labor camp about this. Yeah,

1339
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 17: well within the left camp generally, because with a green

1340
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 17: meal of course, is you know, spearheading for sale. No, look,

1341
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 17: I don't think so. I think that people want to

1342
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 17: see the councils of get on with rebuilding the social

1343
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 17: infrastructure of our cities. They want to get on with

1344
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 17: the business of fixing up our three waters infrastructure, which

1345
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 17: has taken about one time and ear before right now,

1346
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 17: and I think they'll look back on this decision this

1347
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 17: week has been a stephened direction.

1348
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was the right call in the end. Actually, guys,

1349
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: thank you very much. Mike Monroelo Ralier huddle this evening,

1350
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: seven away from.

1351
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: Six on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and

1352
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,959
Speaker 1: in your car on your drive home. Heather Dupless Alan

1353
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for Business

1354
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: News Talk AZ be here.

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Speaker 3: There aren't the Green councilors who voted to sell the airport.

1356
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: She has already punished because they're a remain members of

1357
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 3: the Green Party, which is yeah, well you're being surrounded

1358
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: with all the idiots in the Green Party at the

1359
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: moment as a punishment in and of itself, I would

1360
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: agree with that. There is a little bit of news

1361
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: for the farmers today which I think is kind of

1362
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: a step in the right direction. The government has announced

1363
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: the people who are going to be doing the review

1364
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 3: into the methane target. Right now, if you've been Following this,

1365
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: this has been a subject of some contention. The methane

1366
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: target is I think said to be like I think,

1367
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Speaker 3: I think it's legislated that they have to reduce methane

1368
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: somewhere between twenty four to forty seven percent in the

1369
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Speaker 3: next twenty six years or something like that. In Federated

1370
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 3: Farmers has commissioned some some research I think it was

1371
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: out of Oxford which suggested that is like miles too high,

1372
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: like way way way too high, and so they've called

1373
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: into question whether that is actually fair. So the government

1374
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: had said, yep, we're going to we're going to take

1375
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: another look at it. That was contentious in and of itself.

1376
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: They have appointed, though, a couple of people to it

1377
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: who have some real credibility. So one of them is

1378
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: a former climate change commissioner who's also a farmer, Nikola Shadbolt,

1379
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 3: and another one is the climate change academic David Frame,

1380
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: who I think maybe from Victoria University of Wellington, I

1381
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't remember which university's from. But regardless,

1382
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: he has also got credibility. This is his level of expertise.

1383
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: It's basically a climate change academics. So how can you

1384
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: argue with these people. So anyway, we're going to talk

1385
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: to Federated Farmers. They will be with us after half

1386
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: past six and just give us their take on that

1387
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: just a little then. Yet from within Wellington City Council,

1388
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: apparently Tim Brown, now Tim Brown is a counselor who

1389
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: voted for the airport shares and for the long term plan.

1390
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: Apparently he turned up today with jars of Cranberry source

1391
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: to give to the seven counselors who voted against the

1392
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 3: long term plan because they are like Turkey's voting for Christmas,

1393
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: which you'd have to say is an excellent sense of

1394
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: humor and somewhat would have broken the ice. Well done, Tom,

1395
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: well done, because it frankly got a little heated in there.

1396
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: So anyway, well down to bring the tone right down.

1397
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Speaker 3: The aax Z B.

1398
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: Keeping track of where.

1399
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Speaker 1: The money is flowing with the Business Hour with Hender Duplicy,

1400
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: Ellen and my Hr on newstalks at b.

1401
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 10: Right.

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01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, Federated Farmers

1403
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 3: is going to talk us through whether they like the

1404
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 3: cut of the panel who's looking into the methane target.

1405
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: Liam Dan on the downgrade by the International Group of

1406
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 3: what they're expecting from our GDP this year. And Jamie

1407
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: mackay on the fact that the Danes are doing to

1408
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 3: their farmers what we have chosen not to do, which

1409
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: is climate tax eight past six. Now the price of

1410
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: your car registration is going to go up by fifty bucks.

1411
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: Fuel taxes will rise by twelve cents a liter in

1412
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven and then twenty two cents in twenty

1413
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: twenty nine, and new Roads of National Significance will probably

1414
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: be told the government has confirmed the final Policy Statement

1415
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: on land transport for the next ten years. The price

1416
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 3: rises will help pay for new Roads of National Significance

1417
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: Pothole Prevention fund. And Dylan Thompson is the AA's road

1418
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: safety spokesperson who's with us now hat.

1419
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: Dylan evening, Heather, not a lot of this is new.

1420
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: If anything at all. But are you happy it's locked in?

1421
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. We've known this was coming. But the

1422
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 5: two things that really stand out for the AA and

1423
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: that we're happy about over the next three years, this

1424
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 5: GPS is going to allow more money to be spent

1425
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 5: on road maintenance than we've seen before, significantly more, and

1426
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 5: also a really strong focus around police enforcement out on

1427
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 5: the roads looking to increase that, particularly around alcohol and drugs.

1428
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: We need both of those things. Better maintenance of our

1429
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 5: roads and better enforcement, particularly around impair driving, to make

1430
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 5: to make travel for all New Zealanders safer, better, more reliable.

1431
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: So we're really pleased to see those.

1432
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Samon Brown's copping a bit of heat for

1433
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: that actually today because that pothole money has been taken

1434
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: out of the cycling the cycling budget. Is that fair

1435
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: for him to do that?

1436
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 5: There is transport all is for so many debates around

1437
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 5: you know, there's a limited pot of money and there's

1438
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 5: lots of projects. So from the AA's perspective, you know,

1439
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 5: we need to be having investment in public transport. We

1440
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 5: need to be having investment in cycling, walking, all those

1441
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: other modes. But for us, the first port of call

1442
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 5: for the money that is collected from road users needs

1443
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 5: to be maintaining the current network, and we haven't been

1444
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 5: doing enough of that. So we need to be actually

1445
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 5: increasing that investment because what we've seen over a number

1446
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 5: of years is the roading network deteriorate and get worse

1447
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 5: and more potholes and more damage, and we've got to

1448
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 5: increase the investment to stop that, stop that happening and

1449
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: turn that trend around.

1450
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's been announced today is actually spill beer

1451
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: compared to some of the stuff that the Infrastructure Minister,

1452
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: Chris Bishop is talking about doing in terms of funding

1453
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 3: the roads. Do you want him to go as far

1454
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: as he's talking about, you know, things like value capture

1455
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 3: and PPPs and stuff like that.

1456
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 5: Well, the detail of how those things can work are

1457
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 5: going to be the crucial factors, you know, as we

1458
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 5: talk about it as a country. But we certainly think

1459
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 5: we need to be looking at other ways of trying

1460
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 5: to find funding for the transport and big infrastructure projects

1461
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 5: that New Zealanders want. So, you know, we need to

1462
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 5: be looking at these things. We need to be open

1463
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 5: to new options. But we also are going to have

1464
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 5: to wait to see a bit more detail about how

1465
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 5: a lot of those things would work before we can

1466
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 5: really take a position on whether we think that that's

1467
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 5: the right approach. But we need to be open to

1468
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 5: looking at new ideas, good stuff.

1469
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: Dylant always happy to talk to you and appreciate your time.

1470
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 3: That's Dylan Thompson of the AA, the road safety spokesperson there.

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 3: I think it's generally accepted that Rishie Sunak won that

1472
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 3: BBC debate overnight, which will be maybe a little helpful

1473
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 3: to him, given he's losing the election. I mean, just

1474
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: how helpful. I'm not sure so, given Gray Inde Brady,

1475
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: actually it's Thursday. It's not a Friday, Jews, I feel

1476
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: like it's Friday, don't you. Enda Brady is going to

1477
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: be with us before the end of the program. He'll

1478
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: give us his take on it. I suspect because Enda

1479
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: doesn't love the Toy's second, the Tories. Do you have

1480
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: you picked that up? Enda is sick of the Tories.

1481
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 3: He's not. I bet you he doesn't even give the

1482
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: debate to Rishie tonight, even though everybody else is. But anyway,

1483
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 3: let's just see if my prediction comes true or not.

1484
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: Genesis Energy, speaking at predictions, is warning you need to

1485
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: brace yourself in electricity generation is going to go up

1486
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 3: and cost, which means he doesn't take a rocket scientist

1487
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: to figure that out. A you'll be paying more in

1488
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: your power bills. The reason being gas supply. Now, how

1489
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: much have we talked about the gas supply on this program.

1490
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: The gas supply is dropping. It's dropping at an alarming

1491
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: late and specifically for them, it's dropping. At the Coupe

1492
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: gas field, they did a drilling program to try to

1493
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: get a bit more gas out and it didn't work.

1494
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: It was a failed project and so as a result,

1495
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: and so basically they couldn't get any more out, They

1496
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: couldn't find any more pockets, couldn't maintain it to get

1497
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 3: some more out of there. And the the supply in

1498
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: the Kupe gas field is dwindling and as a result

1499
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: they think we're going to have higher generation costs, so

1500
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 3: you have to burn more coal and that's much more expensive.

1501
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 3: To brace yourself for that. Twelve past six.

1502
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1503
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Allen with the Business Hour thanks to

1504
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: my HR, the HR platform for SME on us talks

1505
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: edb everything from SMEs to the big corporates. The Business

1506
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather duplic Ellen and my HR, the HR

1507
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: platform for SME used talksb Right.

1508
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: It's quarter past six now an international research group has

1509
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: downgraded our economic outlook. BMI is a division of Fitch Solutions,

1510
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: which also includes Fitch Ratings, but they all insist the

1511
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: completely independent of each other and there's nothing to worry about.

1512
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: Here's the problem. BMI is predicting GDP will grow by

1513
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 3: just one percent this year. That's down from from one

1514
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: point two percent, which it was previously thinking. Liam dan

1515
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 3: is The Herald's Business editor at large ALM. You know, okay,

1516
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: so they're basing this by the sounds of things on

1517
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 3: the first cour Yes.

1518
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 27: Yeah, they and looking out at some of the risks

1519
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 27: and things coming coming at us. They're looking at consumer spending.

1520
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 27: They look at some pretty detailed secondary type data, the

1521
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 27: Product Producers Index and the PMI and that kind of

1522
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 27: stuff for what's happening with manufacturing. I mean, you know,

1523
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 27: it's not wildly out of line with some of the

1524
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 27: gloomy outlooks from from the banks and so forth right now,

1525
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 27: but it just shows you that that the trend is

1526
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 27: still not good. So they're seeing it deteriorating, you know,

1527
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 27: and I should add there's there's always that upside. They

1528
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 27: still see interest rate cuts this year. In fact, they

1529
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 27: still see two of them.

1530
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: I think they're probably really when how do we fit

1531
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: two in?

1532
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 27: I guess I think there's an October as well.

1533
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so they must be Octoba November.

1534
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 27: I think that's pushing it. But of course what that

1535
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 27: means is that they're in the camp, and the sort

1536
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 27: of is two camps. There's the camp that's worried that

1537
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 27: this non tradable inflation is just going to be sticky

1538
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 27: and stay there forever. There's the other one that goes,

1539
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 27: oh no, no, New Zealand's going off for if the

1540
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 27: economies falling.

1541
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 3: Which one do you fall into?

1542
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 9: Well?

1543
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: I fall into that we're going off a cliff and

1544
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: we're going to have to do something.

1545
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 27: It's weird that that's the more optimistic one. But I think,

1546
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 27: like you've been in the let's pull the band aid

1547
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 27: off quick camp for a while, and I think I

1548
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 27: think things are, you know, slowing pretty fast. And I

1549
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 27: mean it's possible that non tradeable inflation, the service sector

1550
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 27: stuff and insurance and rental just you know, keeps sticking

1551
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 27: there for longer. But actually, you know, if the economy

1552
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 27: really starts tanking, yeah, it could also just come off

1553
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 27: a lot faster than what the Reserve Bank is talking about.

1554
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 27: They have to talk to if they have to, you know,

1555
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 27: until they see the whites of its eyes or whatever,

1556
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 27: you know. But a lot of a lot of the

1557
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 27: big international players are sticking with these earlier cut forecasts

1558
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 27: and you know, pretty downbeat about the prospects for the

1559
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 27: next year ahead for us.

1560
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: Is this going to affect what fits ratings? Does it shouldn't?

1561
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 27: I mean, they will read it, they'll read it, They'll

1562
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 27: I'll read all the economic stuff, But the stuff coming

1563
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 27: from the guys down the corridor, I guess they would

1564
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 27: be weird if they didn't pay attention to that. Yes,

1565
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 27: it also reads fairly similarly to the kind of commentary

1566
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 27: that we had all that that it was a business

1567
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 27: test story. Actually I wrote about where deleiper Fonseeka talked

1568
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 27: to the Fitch ratings guy and he said similar things

1569
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 27: to this. And there's the warning there that hey, you know,

1570
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 27: if China, China's economy doesn't bounce back, or if it

1571
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 27: slows a bit more, then the numbers could look even

1572
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 27: worse for us, because you know, we're still so.

1573
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 10: Reliant on that.

1574
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Hey, have you like this is so weird?

1575
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to do this, yere, but I thought

1576
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: of you when this came out. Have you seen the

1577
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: surf park that's going to be built in Auckland.

1578
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1579
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: Are you going to go.

1580
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 27: Well, it's a long time since I got up any

1581
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 27: sort of speed on a surfboard, but these waves are perfect.

1582
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 3: Right, there's yes, I thought you were more of a

1583
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 3: surf well.

1584
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 27: I did used to leave Live and breathe a long

1585
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 27: time ago. I'm know Scott Robertson, you know he's out

1586
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 27: there dreaming up you know how to.

1587
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: Well listen would be Would this be your return to surfing?

1588
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 27: It could be because the thing that got me with surfing,

1589
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 27: right is that if you're not doing it all the time,

1590
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 27: the bit where you get out the back and paddle

1591
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 27: through all the way hard work, the hard bit. Yeah,

1592
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 27: that's the bit that sort of put me off because.

1593
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 3: Would you pay ninety bucks for an hour?

1594
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 27: Oh look, I've been and done the skiing up in

1595
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 27: north of Auckland. You know it's it's worth a go,

1596
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 27: isn't it.

1597
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1598
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 27: Yeah, I probably would give a guard and I might

1599
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 27: shout the kids, you know that they're sort of more

1600
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 27: likely to get up fast on a bum.

1601
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: I might shout the kids. What a generous father, Liam,

1602
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, really appreciated. That's Liam Dand The

1603
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 3: Herald's Business editor at largest nineteen past six.

1604
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1605
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR,

1606
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME US talks.

1607
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 18: They'd be right.

1608
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay is supposed to be with us at the moment.

1609
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: But Jamie is on a plane, Laura, is he on

1610
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 3: an e New Zealand plane? Probably? Yeah, Well that's not

1611
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: very good. We can't because we're oh, but she thinks

1612
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: that he might only fly Jetstark as he's tight as possible.

1613
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 3: I am married to a member of that family, and

1614
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: I know that that's the thing that runs in the

1615
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: family anyway. So before we totally just trash in New

1616
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 3: Zealand's reputation, just pause, say it's likely to be in

1617
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 3: New Zealand, but it could also be anybody else that

1618
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 3: has caused him to be later than expected and therefore

1619
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: not on the plane we will talk to, well, not

1620
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: off the plane yet, even though it's supposed to be

1621
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 3: off about ten minutes ago. We're gonna have a chat

1622
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: to him later on in the program and get all

1623
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: of the detail. But in the meantime, six twenty two,

1624
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: we've subbed in a different thing altogether, which we were

1625
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: going to talk about anyway, got to look at the

1626
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: panel that's tasked with reviewing our methane targets. Former Climate

1627
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 3: Change Commissioner and farmer Nicholas shadbolts On she'll be the chair,

1628
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: and also climate change academic professor David frame On as well. Now,

1629
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: the current legislated methane reduction targets are twenty four to

1630
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 3: forty percent, which needs to be the reduction by twenty fifty.

1631
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: Wayne Langford, president of Federated Farmers, is with us right now.

1632
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 28: Hey, Wayne, Hey, everything get it?

1633
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for helping us out and stepping in

1634
01:16:58,840 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 3: for Jamie McKay.

1635
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 28: I'm always covering for Jamie mccach.

1636
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, it's not the first time listener.

1637
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 3: You happy with the panel that's been appointed.

1638
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 28: We're just more happy of the fact that the targets

1639
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 28: are getting reviewed and the panels in place right there.

1640
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 28: You know, we've asked for a long time for there

1641
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 28: to be some experts not only in methane but also

1642
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 28: in agricrotural systems, and from the look of the panel,

1643
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 28: that's what they've come.

1644
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 17: Up with here.

1645
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: What are you expecting them to find? Where would you

1646
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: be happier for the methane target to sit.

1647
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 28: So from some work that we've done you mentioned earlier,

1648
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 28: there's a knox Of report that you know, the exit

1649
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 28: that had completed. It suggested that the methane targets should

1650
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 28: be a lot lower. Now, I'm not a scientist, I'm

1651
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 28: a dairy farmerside. I'm not really going to predict where

1652
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 28: it's going to be, but but I do have the

1653
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 28: you know, I do have some evidence to say I

1654
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 28: think it will be a lot a lot lower the monitors,

1655
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 28: and this is the time to.

1656
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 17: Have a look at it.

1657
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 3: What would you do, though, Wayne, if these guys come

1658
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: back and go, now, do you know what, actually forty

1659
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 3: seven percent is bang on where it needs to be?

1660
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 28: If that's what they come back and day, and that's

1661
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 28: where we're heading, and then we've got to accept that

1662
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 28: and we've got to do what we can to get there.

1663
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 28: But right now we don't think that's quite where it's

1664
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 28: going to end up. And so that's why we're encouraging

1665
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 28: this review.

1666
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: Are you worried that this is becoming such a political

1667
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: football what's going on with climate emissions, especially in the

1668
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: agriculture sector, that it's going to be dealt with by

1669
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: this government, only to be overturned by a future labor

1670
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 3: government and just back and forth like that.

1671
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 28: Well, what I actually see happening is the market's starting

1672
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 28: to outpace where we're regulations looking anyway. So don't get

1673
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 28: me wrong. If we're going to talk about twenty four

1674
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 28: to forty seven percent, that's way out there, and that's

1675
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 28: extremely hard agriculture to achieve. But with the current defination

1676
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 28: of travel, with some terror putting in their own targets,

1677
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 28: you know, some of the red meat companies doing the same,

1678
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 28: we're actually moving relatively quickly as it is, and so

1679
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 28: I don't see it being much for a football I

1680
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 28: certainly hope it is not going to be, because I'd

1681
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 28: like to think that the exeitor is going to get

1682
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 28: there anyway without too much enforcement.

1683
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 12: From the government.

1684
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: Right, So you are you kind of pinning your hopes

1685
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: on the fact that this thing might be sorted and

1686
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: everything settled and no need for change because you're already

1687
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: heading targets and everybody is happy with the way that

1688
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing is trending before you get a change

1689
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: of government.

1690
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 28: Well, that's certainly how i'd like it to be. But

1691
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 28: I do put the care of it in there that

1692
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 28: if we're going to see these significant reductions, if you're

1693
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 28: talking twenty four to forty seven percent, we can't do

1694
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 28: that without tools, right, and those tools aren't at the

1695
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 28: farmer's hands at the moment. They'll take years, two years

1696
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 28: to develop and I'll take some time to put in place,

1697
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 28: and so if we're talking about that, we're going to

1698
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 28: need some time.

1699
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 17: Right.

1700
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 28: Farming is a seasonal game. It's not something that you

1701
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 28: can kind of just flick on on and off. It's

1702
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 28: not like that that it's to take a few seasons

1703
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 28: to bring these things in and it can work out

1704
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 28: whether or not they're working.

1705
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 3: Wayne, did you see what they're doing over in Denmark

1706
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: with the carbon tax on agriculture. I took a look

1707
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 3: at that and wondered if it will ever ever be

1708
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely see the light of day, because they've

1709
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 3: tried this in your before in other parts of Europe

1710
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: and it's never worked.

1711
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: What do you think.

1712
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 28: Yeah, I've had a quick look at that today and

1713
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 28: my concern is that they're potentially hitting. But then the

1714
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 28: same way that Zion has over the last few years,

1715
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 28: where they've planted pine trees and places that they shouldn't,

1716
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 28: and they're literally going to destroy some of their royal communities.

1717
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 28: I mean they should be looking at us and learning

1718
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 28: from that and be thinking, hey, we don't want to

1719
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 28: end up like what we have in some of our

1720
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 28: New Zealand communities.

1721
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 3: Wayne, thank you very much appreciated, mate. Enjoy your long weekend.

1722
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 3: That's Wayne Langford, President of Federated Farmers. I. Okay, so Azariah,

1723
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 3: who's one of our colleagues, is so keen. She's text

1724
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 3: me and emailed like text me on the work text

1725
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 3: machine and then emailed me on my personal email account,

1726
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: not my personal one, my work one. She knows I'm

1727
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 3: not looking at the personal one at the moment and

1728
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: looking at the work one to tell me she's got

1729
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 3: a gold lanyard. She is so stoked with herself. Unfortunately,

1730
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 3: bad news for myself. It turns out that Laura just

1731
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 3: told me that the reason I have a gold lanyard

1732
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: and she doesn't is not because I some sort of

1733
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: a champion who so I didn't even know why I

1734
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 3: got it. I'm not a champion. I just turned up

1735
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: on election night. So literally it was handed out to

1736
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: everybody who worked on election night, not like we had

1737
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 3: a choice. We weren't like, oh, can you work on

1738
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: it was O. The boss came in and was like,

1739
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: and you're working on election night? And Laura missed out

1740
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: because she worked on the day after and therefore didn't qualify.

1741
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: And that isn't fair because she also I gave up

1742
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 3: my Saturday, she gave up her Sunday. What's the difference? So, actually, Laura,

1743
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: it means much less to me. Now I'm not gonna

1744
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: lie and thank you for thank you for putting that

1745
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 3: in perspective. So I got over it very very quickly.

1746
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of texts not believing that nutritionists.

1747
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: By the way, earlier in the program about the multi

1748
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 3: vitamins Heather bs the more vitamins and minerals the better,

1749
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 3: obviously within reason. Heather bs vitamin D every winter. Seems

1750
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: like common sense though, because vitamins are cheaper than our food.

1751
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 3: At the moment, lolls Heather I swear by Baraka EDI's

1752
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: the only good one, and it just carries on like that.

1753
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 3: It's like she wouldn't even listen to her headlines. Next

1754
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: and then Jamie mcam I go.

1755
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1756
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR,

1757
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme US.

1758
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: Talk said, b book stuff work in, is your truck great?

1759
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: Is your put through my DITX fan? There's a way?

1760
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you're last. Thanks what other council news.

1761
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 29: Auckland has also just adopted its own long term plan,

1762
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 29: although you will know without any of the speculation and

1763
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 29: for car that Wellington achieved the same thing with so

1764
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 29: well done Auckland for being grown ups in this situation.

1765
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: I suppose got some numbers for you actually on on

1766
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 3: Super Rugby and how well it did. This is from

1767
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 3: Sky Sport. By the end of the Super Rugby competition,

1768
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: nearly two point one million kiwis had tuned in to

1769
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: watch the Super Rugby over the course of the season.

1770
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 3: This is on Sky Sport and also Sky Open, which

1771
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 3: of course is the old Prime Prime channel. That is

1772
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: an increase on last year's tournament of twelve percent. Now,

1773
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what you put that down to. I mean,

1774
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 3: maybe you put that down to the fact that they've

1775
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: made some changes to the Super Rugby game and the

1776
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: tournament has like it's been more interesting to watch apparently,

1777
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 3: I don't know because remember I didn't watch anything until

1778
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: I got well, I watched a little bit at the start,

1779
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 3: and then I watched the final and nothing in between.

1780
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 3: But I'm told by others that the game was more

1781
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 3: free flowing, and also maybe it's a reflection of the

1782
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: fact that the Crusaders were out right very early on

1783
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 3: and being not a contender at all, so we got

1784
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: much more interesting interested in it. So two point one

1785
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: million is watching it on linear TV right, then there's

1786
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 3: another basically two hundred and fifty thousand people who were

1787
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: then streaming it on Skysport now in Skygo. How good

1788
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 3: is it? You can add those two numbers together. What's

1789
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 3: that two point three five million? That's not bad at all.

1790
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 3: The most watched game, absolutely no surprise to you, Blues

1791
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: versus Chiefs Final, which just happened on Saturday. Six hundred

1792
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: and forty four thousand people watched it on the TV,

1793
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: and then another one hundred and thirteen thousand people watched

1794
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: it on the streaming, and actually not far behind it

1795
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 3: was the Hurricanes versus Chiefs. What that tells you is

1796
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: if you know that it's going to be a good

1797
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: match and it's evenly matched, then you're going to tune in.

1798
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 3: So for that reason, I think we have to change

1799
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 3: up the playoffs and maybe lend some of our players

1800
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: to the Australians to help them out. Twenty two away

1801
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 3: from seven A.

1802
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: Rural report on the Heather duper c Ellan Drive with

1803
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,879
Speaker 1: Ann's Kofoods, New Zealand's famous beef and Lamb.

1804
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay, host of the Country's Off the Plane.

1805
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 23: Now, o Jamie, I'll gooda Heather. I'm sorry about the

1806
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 23: background noise and at Wellington Airport on the way to Tauranga.

1807
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 23: And I know that Wayne lang At the president of

1808
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 23: Federated Farmers till the Gap admirably, he's a man to

1809
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 23: be admired. It's a very good video on him on

1810
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 23: the Herald website today on mental health, his battles and

1811
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 23: also you know what he's done around that Meet the

1812
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 23: Need food charity along with Shivorn O'Malley is absolutely wonderful.

1813
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 23: He's a good front man for farmers.

1814
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: So how late were you and who were you flying with?

1815
01:24:59,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 25: Now?

1816
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 23: Look, I'm on time to be perfectly honest, Heather, but

1817
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 23: I was just running a fine gauntlet to do.

1818
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 24: This cross.

1819
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 25: So I'm here now.

1820
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 23: And I'm raring to go.

1821
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: So we should apologize to Air New Zealand for all

1822
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 3: of the things that we said about them, and therefore

1823
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 3: we do apologize to them. What do you make of

1824
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: this thing that they're doing in Denmark. I looked at

1825
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 3: it and I thought, I said this. D Wayne as

1826
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 3: well looked at it. I thought, Okay, it's noble intentions.

1827
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: You want to put the climate tax on. It's never

1828
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: going to happen because it hasn't happened here, hasn't happened

1829
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 3: anywhere else.

1830
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 23: What do you think, Well, it's probably easy to put

1831
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 23: a climate tax on in a place like Denmark than

1832
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 23: New Zealand because I don't think there is their major

1833
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 23: export there, even though they do milk a few cows.

1834
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 23: They're going to be the first country to propose the

1835
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 23: introduction of a carbon or methane tax. Whether they do,

1836
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 23: it's yet another thing. So they're going to tax farmers

1837
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 23: at seventy dollars per ton by twenty thirty, it goes

1838
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 23: up to one hundred and seventy by twenty thirty five.

1839
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 23: I think it's roughly and Wayne would know the numbers

1840
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 23: better than me. One hundred dollars or one hundred euros

1841
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 23: per cow. But you know European farmers here that nothing

1842
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 23: they enjoy more than a good protest. They're unlikely to

1843
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 23: take this one lying down. And despite despite the cost

1844
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 23: of this this apparently big tax deductions, meaning the real

1845
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 23: cost will be considerably less for Danish farmers. And you know,

1846
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 23: but the danger for us here in New Zealand as

1847
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 23: if they are seen to be doing the right thing

1848
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 23: by the climate and the planet, they're likely to seize

1849
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 23: the opportunity and make life a bit more difficult for

1850
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 23: New Zealand agricultural exports into the EU. So watch the

1851
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 23: space on that one.

1852
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Do you like the look of the sum panel that's

1853
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 3: been appointed to do the methane review.

1854
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 23: Well, I don't know that many of them to be.

1855
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 23: Nicola Shadwald is a professor at Massi University. I think

1856
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 23: she's a Fonterra or was a Fonterra director. Professor Dave

1857
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 23: Frame is a well regarded climate science to seven though

1858
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 23: he stood me up for an interview either. I won't

1859
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 23: hold that against Professor Dave. The rest the rest I

1860
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 23: don't really know. But Wayne Langford's bang on. He said, look,

1861
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 23: you know the current methane duck targets are incredibly devised,

1862
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 23: the highly political, very questionable science underpinning them, and you

1863
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 23: know those numbers. Forty twenty fifty was going to destroy

1864
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 23: livestock farming in this country and even ten percent by

1865
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 23: twenty thirty was going to see sheep and beef production

1866
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 23: down by twenty percent. So look, I'm glad they're doing

1867
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 23: something about it. We'll judge them on their merits.

1868
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 3: When are we actually going to get it? I mean

1869
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 3: we've talked a lot about what they're going to do

1870
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 3: with the live exports, this government, but when are we

1871
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: actually going to get a decision? Finally, Well, I.

1872
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 23: See that the government and talking about Federated Farmers. Of course,

1873
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 23: former Federated Farmer's President these days, act MP and Associate

1874
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 23: ad Minister Andrew Hoggard is saying the government's progressing its

1875
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 23: commitment to reinstate live cattle exports by sea. Remember at

1876
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 23: this stage it's only live cattle, it's certainly not sheep

1877
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:59,440
Speaker 23: there and consultation is set to start in September. Reinstating

1878
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 23: the life livestock exports will by sea will require an

1879
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 23: amendment to the Animal Welfare Act of nineteen ninety nine.

1880
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 23: But remember, Heather, it's tough times. It's five hundred billion

1881
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 23: dollar industry per annum. That might even buy a few

1882
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 23: cook straight fairies.

1883
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: Jamie Watson toting, why are you need it there?

1884
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 23: Well, it was a long planned trap and it's been

1885
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 23: bookended by a couple of farming events either side of it.

1886
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 23: But I didn't realize I was going to Nomely the

1887
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 23: South Island Airy event and christ Church that I've been

1888
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 23: at this week and men the Primary Industry Summit and

1889
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 23: Awards in Wellington on Tuesday. But got a sun up

1890
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 23: there with a commercial cleaning business, Heather super Clean for

1891
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 23: all your cleaning needs, and I'm going up. I'm coming

1892
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 23: up to visit them now. Just before I go, one

1893
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 23: more shameless plug the Rabobank Good Deeds promotion. This is

1894
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 23: legit because they're a good customer. If you've got a

1895
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 23: rural community project, you want them to bought to your

1896
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 23: local footy club or paint you all go to Rabobank

1897
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 23: dot co dot in thet enter the competition. We've got

1898
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 23: five grand and a day's labor from the teams at

1899
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 23: Rabobank and the country, which is just me.

1900
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 3: I love it, Jamie thank you very much. Look after

1901
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 3: yourself mate, that's Jamie mccha and enjoy your long weekend

1902
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: Host of the Country. Hey for Wellington, this is a

1903
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: reasonably good bit of news. Reading Cinema is considering selling

1904
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: all of its property in Wellington. It appears that they've

1905
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: got the pip with Wellington because Wellington pulled the council. Eventually,

1906
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 3: we're basically bullied, right, the public bullied the Council into

1907
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 3: pulling out of that ridiculous deal where they were going

1908
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 3: to give thirty thirty two million dollars essentially to Reading Cinema.

1909
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: So Reading Cinema could renovate its cinema complex on Courtney Place,

1910
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 3: which has basically sat there empty and closed up for

1911
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: the last five years, and it would be at a

1912
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 3: loss to the Council, therefore being born by their eight

1913
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 3: pay which was ridiculous. So as a result, Reading Cinema,

1914
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 3: which is, as you know, an international company, the chief

1915
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 3: executive told the share holders last month in a state

1916
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 3: in a bunch of comments that have just gone up online,

1917
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 3: after months of negotiating and believing that we've substantially finished

1918
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: it in all material respects. Negotiations were purportedly terminated by

1919
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: Wellington City Council on a unilateral basis without warning. This

1920
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 3: action followed a leak of the anticipated deal terms whoever

1921
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 3: the leaker was well done, and a flooding of adverse

1922
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: press asserting that the deal was too favorable to reading.

1923
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 3: Following this, the company is reassessing its options with respect

1924
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 3: to all of our real estate holdings in Wellington, which

1925
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 3: I think is fantastic news, because nobody wants these lot

1926
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: who are like nobody wants landlords like this. Landlords who

1927
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 3: just leave a building empty for how long? Years and

1928
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: years five years plus, surely do nothing to it, have

1929
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: no regard to what it's doing to the city around it.

1930
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 3: If that's the kind of landlord you are, I look

1931
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: forward to you selling it and buggering off sixteen away

1932
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 3: from seven, crunching the numbers.

1933
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: And getting the results. It's Heather Dupice Ellen with the

1934
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 1: Business Hours. Thanks to my HR, the HR platform for

1935
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: SME on news talks.

1936
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,520
Speaker 3: You take correspondent into Brady's with us Hello, Inda.

1937
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 26: Hey, Heather, one week to go? How are you sizzling

1938
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 26: for it?

1939
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: Because I cannot believe what's coming out of your country.

1940
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 3: So yesterday you had a labor candidate beating against themselves,

1941
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Speaker 3: betting that they would lose. And now you've got a

1942
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Speaker 3: senior Tory betting that they would lose. What's going on.

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Speaker 26: And not just the bet a small bet sixteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 26: This guy, Sir Philip Davies is his name. He's running

1945
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Speaker 26: for Shipley in West Yorkshire in a cost of living

1946
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Speaker 26: crisis where the main talking point is how are families

1947
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Speaker 26: going to afford to live better, to have money left

1948
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Speaker 26: at the end of the month. And this guy, Sir

1949
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Speaker 26: Philip Davies, he's put a sixteen thousand dollar bet on himself,

1950
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Speaker 26: not to win, to lose, to lose the election. Now

1951
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Speaker 26: he's been approached by reporters. He basically turned on the

1952
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Speaker 26: reporters and he said, well, what business of yours is it?

1953
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Speaker 26: If what I do? He admitted placing the bet and

1954
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Speaker 26: has no remorse, no contrition, And the really funny thing

1955
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Speaker 26: is he probably is going to lose, so the bet

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Speaker 26: will pay out. He's now all over the front pages.

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Speaker 26: His wife is a Conservative member of Parliament. She is

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Speaker 26: the Minister for Common Sense.

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Speaker 17: I look this up.

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Speaker 26: Esther McVey is her name. She sits in cabinet she

1961
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Speaker 26: is the Minister for common sense in inverted comments. That

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Speaker 26: was how they appointed her. You can just imagine the

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Speaker 26: common sensical discussions they have around the dinner table and

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Speaker 26: that house. God help.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's something slight. It feels unethical about being

1966
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Speaker 3: able to beat against yourself because surely then it is

1967
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Speaker 3: in his own interests to just throw it and win

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Speaker 3: the bet.

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Speaker 26: Exactly. I mean, this is why rugby players and soccer

1970
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Speaker 26: players and cricket players are not allowed to place bets

1971
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Speaker 26: on matches that they are involved in that they can influence.

1972
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Speaker 26: So I mean, look, the feeling you get is I

1973
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 26: spoke to senior people in the Conservative Party. I speak

1974
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 26: to them all the time, all parties. You know what

1975
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 26: it's like being a journal you hear everything. And I

1976
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 26: was told the other day it's like the end of

1977
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Speaker 26: the Roman Empire. That was how they described this week.

1978
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Speaker 26: That you know, it's all over, and you know some

1979
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 26: people will be drinking wine until they've almost others are

1980
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Speaker 26: deciding to put bets on themselves to lose.

1981
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Speaker 3: Now, Inda, are you going to give the debate to Rashie.

1982
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Speaker 26: Look, I would say he was quite combative, and his

1983
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 26: critics would argue that had he shown this kind of

1984
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 26: fight two years ago, the country might be in a

1985
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Speaker 26: better state and he might have more chance of winning.

1986
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Speaker 26: So I think his advisers have said to him, look,

1987
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Speaker 26: you have nothing left to lose. It's the last round

1988
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Speaker 26: of a twelve match boxing event. Go out there and

1989
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Speaker 26: land a punch. And he couldn't do it. I mean,

1990
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Speaker 26: Starmer just repeatedly pointing out who's been in charge for

1991
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 26: the last fourteen years. Soon next shouting that labor are

1992
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 26: going to put up taxes. Starmer replying by saying that

1993
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Speaker 26: taxes are at the highest level they've ever been and

1994
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Speaker 26: whose fault is that? So I thought Sooner let himself

1995
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Speaker 26: down with his manner, his tone and just constantly interrupting Starmer.

1996
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Speaker 26: But look, the gap has not narrowed in the polls.

1997
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Speaker 26: It's twenty six clear percentage point. H So these poles

1998
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Speaker 26: are correct. You know, if these poles are correct, Starmer

1999
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Speaker 26: is riding into Downing Street next Friday morning on the

2000
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 26: crest of a tidal way.

2001
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, performance like that will not do Rashie any good.

2002
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Speaker 3: Is them just too far to go?

2003
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Speaker 22: Now?

2004
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Speaker 3: Tell me what you make of Gareth Gareth Southgate.

2005
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Speaker 26: I think he's extremely boring and he's got the England

2006
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 26: soccer team playing extremely boring football, so they've really limped through. Okay,

2007
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Speaker 26: they topped their group, which was a really average group

2008
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 26: to begin with. But a draw with den Mark and nil,

2009
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 26: they'll draw against Slovenia, which has a tiny population. I

2010
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 26: think there's actually more people live in Birmingham in England

2011
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Speaker 26: than in the whole of Slovenia. And the national sport

2012
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 26: is skiing and they still manage to get a draw

2013
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Speaker 26: with England. So Southgate's on ten million dollars a year.

2014
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Speaker 26: I just cannot fathom who thought that was a good idea.

2015
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 26: The guy who manages Georgia who beat Portugal last night

2016
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 26: quite two nil. The guy who manages Georgia's on three

2017
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Speaker 26: hundred and forty thousand dollars a year. Most people would

2018
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 26: say that's an amazing salary for coaching a soccer team.

2019
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 26: Southgate's on ten mil and this is what's turning up.

2020
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Speaker 26: But look, England plays Slovakia this weekend, slightly bigger country

2021
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 26: with a bigger population. Let's see if they can win.

2022
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 3: Man, how do you feel, yes or no? Will I win?

2023
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 26: I think England will beats Slovakia. I think if the

2024
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 26: players take the shackles off and go and do what

2025
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 26: they've done all season and not listen to the manager,

2026
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 26: but say, look, I'm in Ireland at the moment, Heather

2027
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 26: in all honesty, and people are just rolling around laughing.

2028
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 3: At them, fair enough and they'll be enjoying it as well.

2029
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 3: In the look after Yourself, thank you so much, Into

2030
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Brady UK correspondent, hither reading is welcome to go make

2031
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 3: a nice but well lit park in the city with

2032
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 3: a police base in the corner. I'd avoid the pack, Chris.

2033
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 3: I'll avoid the park in the middle of Wellington City

2034
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 3: because if you just go down the road a little

2035
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 3: bit you'll find Pigeon Pack. You know, Arrow Park is

2036
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 3: Daro Park now, isn't it. So yeah, maybe just a

2037
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 3: nice new building with something functional like maybe a cop shop.

2038
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm down with that. A's away from seven, whether it's.

2039
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 2: Macro, MicroB or just plain economics.

2040
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen

2041
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: and my HR the HR platform for susp well here.

2042
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 3: That you guys get chocolate, fish and lanyards at work.

2043
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 3: My work offerss those little five centimeter boxes of raisins

2044
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 3: as a bribe, Joel, what are you guys two years old?

2045
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: I use them on the Toddler.

2046
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 10: I would so go for the raisins. If Jason and

2047
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 10: Stanley walked in here was like, hens, can you work

2048
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 10: another hour? Here's a box of Raisins, I'll be.

2049
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 23: All over it.

2050
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 3: What if he was like box of raisins or gold lanyard.

2051
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 10: I would I would absolutely take the raisins over the lanyard.

2052
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 10: Not a landyear guy me. Sorry fair, you'd think I

2053
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 10: would be, but they just don't work with me.

2054
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 3: To be fair, at seven o'clock at night, I would

2055
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 3: take a box of raisins as well, because just for

2056
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 3: that little energy bump, it'd be quite good.

2057
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 10: Away hungry for raisins.

2058
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 3: Now now I'm hungry. Now now I'm hungry. Oh thanks Joel.

2059
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 3: Now you've started the thing. Hey, you know how Travis

2060
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Kelcey got to meet I thought was his brother there,

2061
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. He got to meet Prince William and

2062
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: you know it l at the at backstage at the

2063
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift concert. Well, he and his brother Jason have

2064
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 3: got this podcast and they've raved about Prince William.

2065
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 30: There was royalty at the show. Got to meet Prince William.

2066
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 30: How about that, your Royal highness.

2067
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 11: Last episode, I think I was quoted as saying, royalty dude.

2068
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 30: He was the coolest mother.

2069
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,440
Speaker 2: He was so cool. He's a good Obviously we're backstage medium.

2070
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 11: They specified because we weren't at like an official royal event,

2071
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 11: we didn't need to bow or curtsy. But I did

2072
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 11: still address him as your Royal highness.

2073
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 22: Yeah.

2074
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 11: No, I've never felt emasculated, and I did. That was

2075
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 11: the closest I've never been.

2076
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 30: I've never seen you give that someone that much from respect.

2077
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 30: You put your beer like ten feet away from you.

2078
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 11: I didn't have it in my teeth when I met him.

2079
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 11: I got to say Prince William was fantastic meeting him,

2080
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 11: But the highlight was Princess Charlotte. She was so adorable.

2081
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 11: I don't know, maybe because I have three girls now.

2082
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 11: She had fire to her. She was asking questions.

2083
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 30: Thank you, your highness.

2084
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: It was awesome meeting you and Charlotte and George.

2085
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 3: I have no idea which one is which, but I

2086
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,879
Speaker 3: think they were both there and they both adored the royals.

2087
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 10: So there you go, and let me entertain you by

2088
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 10: Robbie Williams to play us out tonight. It was just

2089
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 10: I'm still but cut up about poor or Robbie going

2090
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 10: for a walk in the park and no one recognizing him.

2091
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 10: I think the issue might have been the big sunglasses

2092
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 10: he had on, because with the sunglasses on, he's just

2093
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 10: a really good looking middle aged time.

2094
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: I thought about this and I thought his problem is

2095
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: he was he thought wearing a pink suit and diamante

2096
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 3: glasses in London was going to draw attention to himself.

2097
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: And it's London. Had he done that in Auckland, I

2098
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 3: think everybody would have stared. But you know, that's just

2099
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 3: a bit weird there, aren't they.

2100
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 10: I'm sure. I'm sure as soon as I got a

2101
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 10: look of his beautiful eyes, like then I'd be like, oh, hey,

2102
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 10: that's definitely Robbie Williams. It's not just looks like him, yes.

2103
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: Like it was like Superman's mask and it was like

2104
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 3: super Superman's outfit just like made nobody recognize him.

2105
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, he wears glasses, and all of a sudden I

2106
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 10: was like, Oh, this really tough guy who works as

2107
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 10: a reporter.

2108
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 3: The opposite of that. Hey, enjoy your long weekend. Drive

2109
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 3: safely out there and we'll see you Again. On Monday,

2110
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 3: he stalk ZB.

2111
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