1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Mark Mitchell's with us along with Ginny Anderson. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, Mike. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 3: Morning, Jenny, Good morning Mike, and happy anniversary. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's very kind. Have you been 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: listening for the whole twenty five years and loving every minute? Ginny? 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the full twenty five years, 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: but I have been listening for a while. 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Good on you, Mark. How much heat are you taking 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: on the socials? As they say over not giving the 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: America's Cup people the money? 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Not as bad as what I thought it might have been. 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: But the reality of it is. I mean, of course, 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, we want to have the America's Cup. Hey, 14 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: it's such a big part of who we are as 15 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: a country. But the reality of it was is that 16 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: the government seventy five million dollars of tax bars money 17 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: at the moment is needed in health, in education. It 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: was just too much. 19 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Did it go to cabinet? Did it get seriously considered? 20 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Did you fight your corner? Did any of that happen 21 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: or no? 22 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I got absolutely got seriously considered. It went 23 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: to you know, the major Events team and MB of 24 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: course the Minister of Finance has got oversight on there 25 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: to kill it, and well there's there were big discussions 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: head around it. Let me assure you of that, and 27 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: looking at every angle in terms of course we'd love 28 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: to have the America's Cup here. At the end of 29 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: the day, everyone knows that we're fiscally r under the pump. 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: Seventy five million dollars of taxpars money is a lot 31 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: of money, and there's other areas of that we want 32 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: to prioritize at the moment. 33 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: Can you come like that, but can I just say that, 34 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: but there was enough money for it, which keecks in 35 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: I think today or yesterday the two point nine billion 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: dollars of text breaks to lean lads. There was money 37 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: in the budget for. 38 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: That though, well that's that is just complete nonsense. And 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: by the way, when labor was in lasting government, you 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: prioritize money for other ereas as well, and not the 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: America's Cup. And as much as we'd love to host 42 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: the America's Cup as much as much. 43 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: As we'd love, just pointing out mine and there's. 44 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Nothing stopping and there's nothing stopping if there's other funding 45 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: available for it still be hosted in New Zealand. But 46 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: at the moment this goverment. 47 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: See, I mean, you can go down the track as 48 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: long as you want. I mean, I personally argue parents 49 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: should make school and we should save one hundred and 50 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: something million dollars on that, and therefore we can fund 51 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the America's Cup. But can you, honestly, ginny hand on heart, 52 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: given the fiscal circumstances of the day, say you would 53 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: have done anything different. 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't seen those negotiations. We probably would have 55 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: given it one more punt to see if we can stick, 56 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: because those spill over the benefits we saw last time 57 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: were significant for small businesses, for the local economy. When 58 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: you bring that many people into the country and have 59 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: that much attention on New Zealand, that the money that 60 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: comes into the country has repeat benefits for the local economy. 61 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: And that's a great thing. And right now people are 62 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: crying out for their extra hope and a bit of 63 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: extra money for local tourism that comes in through that stuff. 64 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: So my view is that if there was an opportunity 65 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: to have another crack in another round of one apgotiations, 66 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: we would have had a. 67 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Crack an three years, seventy five twenty five a year. 68 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: It's two million a month. Did you look at it 69 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: that way? I mean you spend more on photo copying 70 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: than that. 71 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: No, we just looked at it in the sense that, well, 72 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: of course there was you know, the Minister of Finance 73 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: and NBA major events that went through did the analysis 74 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: and looked at what it was going to be the 75 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: cost of the text power, and well. 76 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: It's seventy five over three years. There's two million dollars 77 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: a month. I've done the numbers for you. You didn't even 78 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: need to ring well, NB, you could ring me. 79 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: Well. I think that the reality of it is that 80 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: is that most key we would support having the America's 81 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: cup yere. There is a threshold in terms of what 82 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: key we think we should be investing as a country. 83 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: Seventy five million dollars at the moment for us as 84 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: a lot of money. We do have to prioritize. We 85 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: do have to make tough decisions, something that labor didn't 86 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: do when they're in government. Is why we're in the 87 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: situation we're in now. 88 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean it is what it is. Obviously, Ginny, 89 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: look big picture here. When you looked at the Mallori 90 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: party yesterday and the privilegus committee. When you look at 91 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Tamotha Paul time several, when you look at the bloke 92 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: who's been texting out weird stuff, honestly, hand on heart 93 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: in an adult way, explain to me how you run 94 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: a country with that lot? 95 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: Well, which shue you? 96 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: You've putted anyone different? Anyone else? 97 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: Are you wanting like five words to someone? 98 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying this is 99 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: going to be a major, major issue for you guys 100 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: next to you, because these guys are weirdos, and you're 101 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: going to have to explain to New Zealand that don't 102 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: worry about it. We're in control here and we'll will 103 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: bring them into line, so vote for us. 104 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: Well, hipkins are supporting them as well. 105 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, it's not true true, So you. 106 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Didn't he Merriment's all okay? 107 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, each of those issues, each of those issues are 108 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: separate ones. The one because you. 109 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Pile them up into a great, big, heaping pile of 110 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: weirdness and you and you you know it's not your fault, 111 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: but it is your problem. You've got to explain it. 112 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: Well, that's why we continue to be a strong, organized 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: opposition that holds this government to account on issues that 114 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: don't make sense to say when they say we don't 115 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: have enough money. 116 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I get all of that. And so you will go out. 117 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: And that's what you want. If we make sure we're 118 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: at fight ship, we. 119 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: May you and fantastic and so you're going to the 120 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: I get that. But in an environment you're going to 121 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: need the of not the Maori Party, and they are nuts. 122 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: So can I find it up? So I'm I glad 123 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: to talk now? Is it now? 124 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: I talk? 125 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 126 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: Really interested just chicking. We stick to what we know 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: and do well, which is holding this government to account 128 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: and making sure that we are out there every day 129 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: talking to New Zealanders and making it clear that it's 130 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: not okay. Right now Keywis are doing it incredibly tough. 131 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: They don't have enough money for food or rent or mortgages, 132 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: and you have a government giving two point nine billion 133 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: dollars away to landlords this month, or the minimum wage 134 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: increases by thirty five cents, not even enough to meat inflation. 135 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: They're the real problems. 136 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: So basically, so basically you've had the Green Party come 137 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: out with a full frontal attack or on our police 138 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: suit by. 139 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 3: The way, And I've been very clear on this program 140 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: about that Mark right when it broke, I was just 141 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: one to be asked whether we would I think that 142 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: Mark said, so what do you say, Jenny when tamothasys 143 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: we're going to defund the police and my exec No, Timoth, 144 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: We're not going to defund the police. 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: I know you, I know you're very sensitive about this, 146 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: but just let me finish. So basically, you had the 147 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: Greens come out and to take our police. 148 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: Are you going to restate what Mark just are years ago? 149 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: To restate what Mike this is? Because I think that's 150 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: what you're going to do. Mike, Like when you get 151 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: a funny joke, you just like to keep telling it 152 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: again and again. Can I for this or knock yourself out? 153 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: So basically, you had the Greens come out and to 154 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: take the police. You had Hipkins as the leader of 155 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: the Labor Party come out and condemn those comments. Then 156 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: he gets on a call to Marrow but Davidson, the 157 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: leader of the Green Party, and he beats out of 158 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: it and says, oh, no, I think the Greens have 159 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 2: raised legitimate issues. This is these are the two parties 160 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: I want Key Wes to think about this very carefully. 161 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 2: Labor and Greens voted against every single public safety piece 162 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: of legislation that we brought to the House this tom. 163 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: Let me change it up slow for you, Jinny. The 164 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: married Party in their contempt the Privileges Committee, are you 165 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: comfortable with the way they're behaving? She there, hare gone, 166 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: they've disappeared. What's happened there? 167 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: No, I'm here? Not, I'm here. 168 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Jenny's gone, She's disappeared, gone, She's sorry. So you're back? 169 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Did you go? Did you go get some advice from 170 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: the spin doctors? Jenny? What was happening there? 171 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: No? I did not. I don't know what happened. That 172 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: made a funny noise? 173 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: So Mary party, let me ask you, the married party 174 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: in their contempt of the privileges, are you comfortable with 175 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: that or not? 176 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: Well, Penny went to the Privileges Committee. 177 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: And hey, when behaved himself and said sorry and did 178 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the right thing. 179 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: Though he did make the point though that he stood 180 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: by doing the hucker. And I think this is a 181 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: tricky new area for Parliament. It's when is the hucker okay? 182 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: And when is it not? 183 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's the Privileges Committee. 184 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Is okay, it is indeed. 185 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking though, is let's take you labor seriously and 186 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: let's take national seriously. And you've got these fringe weirdos 187 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: on the side just becoming their nose at history, heritage, professionalism, 188 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever you want. Does that sit comfortably with you or not? 189 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: Well, it's a new territory we're navigating, so it's one 190 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: that is tricky, and it's the one with the Speaker 191 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: has a clear role in terms of determining what happens next. 192 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, it is new area. We believe Labor we 193 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: want to be part of the Privileges Committee and part 194 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: of that. But Penny did note when he went through 195 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: that process that he stood by doing the hooker as well. 196 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: So that's an issue for the multi party to navigate. 197 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: But it will be an interesting time for Parliament how 198 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: we respond and how this works its way. 199 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: Do you recommend it? 200 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, it's really important that 201 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: we have standards in our parliament. I see school groups 202 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: coming through all the time. Yep. We should have strong 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: debates and there's no doubt about that. In a bit 204 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: of rough and tumble, but standards are important. Behavior is important, 205 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: and I think standards have slipped oddly lots. We had 206 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: a Green Party member in the House the other day 207 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: with the leather jacket on, trying to look like FONDSA rally. 208 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: We've got the Married Party that get out of their seats, 209 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: come forward and start doing a hark with obviously with 210 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: the obviously intent of trying to intimidate other members of 211 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: the House. You've got a Green Party member that came 212 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: over and was abusive towards a you know, another National 213 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: Party member. I just the standards matter, and actually we 214 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: meant to be leaders and we should be providing, we 215 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: should be sitting the standard exactly. And so you know 216 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: that's my thoughts on well known. 217 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: A quick question for you, Ginny, as regards last week's 218 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: discussion on things. You're not going to cancel for the 219 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: sake of canceling if broadly speaking, what Peters comes up 220 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: with with the fairies is fine, you won't do anything 221 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: about it. It is what it is, yeah or no. 222 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: New Zealand needs rail enabled fairies and it's a real 223 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: I think it's a real lost to New Zealand. We've 224 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: had to pay three hundred billion so far for the 225 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: break fees, like. 226 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: We're allowed to pay anything for the break free. 227 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: So and if we get here the keepnet paper that 228 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: was made available note step that was seen. It was leaked, 229 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: I think actually, but it was seen. Three hundred million 230 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: was put in the full break fees. 231 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's everything, that's last year of infrastructure and 232 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: the whole lot. If we get hundaid to make those 233 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: ships right there off, it'll be a non event. 234 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: Well that that's yet to be determined. But we've got 235 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: exactly what we had in place before, but it's smaller 236 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: and it's taken another two years on top of what 237 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: we were waiting but costing. 238 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Jenny, if they get what they get, you're not going 239 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: to do anything about It is what it is. 240 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: And we've said got them that that's the high way. 241 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: We want that through the Cook straight. It's critical for 242 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: New Zealands infrastructure and we will support. 243 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: There's this massive cost blowouts that the Textperker couldn't afford under. 244 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Labor and blowouts under you as well. 245 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: No, it's not true. It's going to it's going to be. 246 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be far more economic for the text Perent. 247 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: It's going to deliver a work class. 248 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: We have seen no prices mic on. 249 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: It will be so well, they're going to be less 250 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: than four billion, aren't they. And I think Peters has 251 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: said that, and he said, quote unquote, it will save 252 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: us billions. So if it saves us billions, it'll be cheaper, won't. 253 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: It will take a look when we see those all right. 254 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: Nice to see you, guys, Jindy Anderson Mark Mitchell for 255 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: another week. 256 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 257 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 258 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.