1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: This is the business ow, this is the news talks. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: He'd be and I welcome to the program. Our senior 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: analyst from Milford Asset Management, Stephanie Bachelor. Good evening. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Hey there. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Now, you'd think that even in bad times, people would 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: still be eating chips and there'd still be money in chips, 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: but apparently there isn't. With one of the world's largest 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: frozen French fry producers, Lamb Western, in some trouble today. 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: So tell us about that stuff. 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So Lamb Western, which is the largest 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: French fried producer in the US, they've had a bit 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: of a rocky year. Shares were already down about thirty 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: percent this year before they reported financial results, and there 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: are a lot of investors thinking, you know, this is 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: starting to look pretty attractive and shares are looking pretty cheap. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: But it's a great lesson in that the cheap can 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: always become cheaper. So shares actually felt further twenty eight 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: percent on the day of the result, which was the 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: biggest one they move in the history of the company. 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: And so shares are now down almost fifty percent this year. 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: The chips are down, they are they are What were 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: the key issues in the result that would call it 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: a severe price reaction. 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, there are a few things going on. They've been 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: losing market share because they did a bit of a 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: software transition and they also had a voluntary product withdrawal. 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: But the main issue is soft restaurant traffic. So people 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: are feeling the pinch from the cost of living crisis, 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: and with restaurants and fast food companies having raised prices 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: so much of the last couple of years, it's now 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: just too expensive to eat out, so people are choosing 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: to eat at home instead, and that obviously means a 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: lot fewer French fries are being bought. At the same time, 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: lamb Wiston has been building new production plants, which isn't 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: great if the demand isn't there, and now they're actually 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: having to cut prices to try to win back some 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: of that market share that they've lost. 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Are other producers of French fries or chips also seeing 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the same thing? 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mentioned land Western is the largest one 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: in the US. They've got about forty percent market share, 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: and there are two other large players with about fifty 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: percent share between them. Pretty cozy sort of oligopoly. And 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: what lam Western is saying is pretty representative of the 45 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: overall industry. But they've said they've seen negative restaurant traffic 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: trends before, but they've never seen them this prolonged, and 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: the trends are actually still continuing to decline even over 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: the last months, so it doesn't look like there are 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: any green shoots. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: And everyone's getting hurt. We reported earlier about the report 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: from McDonald's, which is that's aligning with what LAMB western 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: is saying. 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: Really yeah, So McDonald's one of LAMB Weston's largest customers, 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: and the result was also pretty weak. They actually had 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: their first global sales decline since twenty twenty, and they 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: said the consumer's becoming increasingly pressured. They're really looking for value, 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: particularly in those lower income households, and following a lot 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: of those price increases, McDonald's just no longer seen as 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: a value option, so they're trying to combat this. They've 60 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: launched a five dollar meal deal in late June, and 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: management seemed pretty upbeat about the early traction from this, 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: but they did also kind of hint that there's going 63 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: to need to be more value going forward. And despite 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: the negative result of McDonald's shares were actually up about 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: four percent, which shows just how negative investors were going 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: into the results. So it was weak, but it wasn't 67 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: as terrible as they expected. So you know, sometimes the 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: share price reaction can be quite hard to pick quarter 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: to quarter. 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Stephanie, Senior analyst from Milford's Asset 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Management Sefany Bachelor, if you go have some chips for dinner. 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks the'd be from four pm weekdays, 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio