1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Now, there's a bit of news round when it comes 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: to infrastructure. Last quarter's Infrastructure Commission update shows an increase 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: of sixty point four billion dollars since the previous quarter. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: The total value of projects now set at two hundred 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and four billion dollars. That's a lot of money, that's 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of projects, but how many have broken ground? Meanwhile, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the government's announced an overhaul of the Public Works Act, 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: which will aim to speed up infrastructure processes. Infrastructure New 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Zealand Policy Director Michelle McCormick is with me. Now, Hello, Michelle, 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: good morning injury. So how many have broken ground? Do 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: you know? 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: We've got fifteen hundred in underway under contract, so that's 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: forty eight point six billion dollars, which is quite significant. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, we've still got a wee way to go. 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: So there's still you know, out of a total of 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: seven thousand, six hundred projects in the pipeline, just over 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: half actually have funding committed, So there's a bit of 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: work to do before we actually get all those into construction, 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: and I mean all so just because they're in the 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: pipeline also means that, you know, there's a lot of 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: work to do in terms of getting consenting as well 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: as the funding aligned. So what is good news though, 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: is that we've got a lot more organizations contributing to 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: the pipeline information. So that's not only the government, local government, 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: but also the private sector. So the value of having 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: the pipeline and it's been visible both right across New 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Zealand to know what work force we need, but also 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: internationally too to see what opportunities there are now. 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: I know that the construction industry has complained about the 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: fact that the government canceled a lot of the projects 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: and their bid to actually cut government spending. So have 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: we canceled a lot? 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, things did stop, that is very true, and things 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: are taking a while to get going. As I said, 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: just because it's in the pipeline doesn't mean there's shovels 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: in the ground, so all their pre work. You can 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: take several years actually to get consents to acquire properties. 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: So maintaining workforce here has definitely been challenging over the 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: last couple of years. There haven't been that level of 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: activity to keep people active and we have seen people 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: go after or. 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Unfortunately exactly of course, if we don't give them work, 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: they go and find it and they find it overseas. 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: I talked in my intro about the overhaul of the 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Public Works Act that's going to allow agencies like NZTA 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: to enter into acquisition agreements with landowners and enable collaboration 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: between agencies. You've got to buy the land before you 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: can start building on this. Is this making a difference 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: or will it make it? Hope? 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely should help speed things up. So we're 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: looking at legislation being introduced the middle of the year, 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: but what has been signaled is really promising. It will 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: cut some of the red tape at the moment MDTA 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: has to go through the Minister to get those final 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: approvals once you know they are in negotiations. But also 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: when we've got some complicated development space where you know 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: you might have one agency during the roading, others providing telecommunication. 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: You know, each of them had to go through their 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: own process and now we can actually see that griped 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: together and acquired for one purpose. So that just makes 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: total sense. 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Well, bring it on, Michelle, We love the work. Michelle McCormack, 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: the Policy Director Infrastructure in New Zealand. 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