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Speaker 2: Hello are you Great New Zealanders? And welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Mattin Tyler Afternoons on z B podcast. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the name of the thing. Huge show today, Tyler Massive.

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Speaker 2: We went deep into the American election for the first time.

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Speaker 3: We certainly did spicy waters to be traversing, but.

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Speaker 2: It was a good chat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, reasonably balanced, but there was a bit of spice

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Speaker 3: in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a bit of spice there. And then we

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Speaker 2: went into the mongrel with Liam Lawson, the Great New Zealander.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's taking the gloves off a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, giving the bird at three hundred and fifty kilometers

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Speaker 2: an hour.

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Speaker 3: We like that.

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Speaker 2: Do you need mongrel to succeed? Then we went into

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Speaker 2: the hot tissue, the hot issue that every key we

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Speaker 2: are talking about right now, fake lawns.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if I'm converted. I mean, there

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Speaker 3: was some good pictures there about the benefits of fake lawn,

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Speaker 3: synthetic lawn, artificial derth.

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Speaker 2: Good pictures. Good pictures are sometimes real grass and sometimes

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Speaker 2: they're dropping face lawns. Like they are in the domain

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Speaker 2: when you're playing Last Man Stands Cricket. But of course,

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Speaker 2: because it's a Friday, we also announced the Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week and that will

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Speaker 2: shock you to your core when you get to that

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Speaker 2: in a couple of hours.

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Speaker 3: Controversial.

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Speaker 2: Also the topical tune so very very happy with the

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Speaker 2: show was one of the best we've ever done. And

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Speaker 2: that's a month. Have we been doing this for a month?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: Month?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Shall we celebrate with a beer as

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Speaker 3: we always do on a Friday, Say, let's go down

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Speaker 3: to the pub and a.

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Speaker 2: Shot it together.

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Speaker 7: Who your new home for insightful and entertaining talk?

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on news Talk

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Speaker 1: Sebby good Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: You happy Friday. You're listening to Matt and Tyler with

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Speaker 3: you until four pm. What's going on, Matt, I've.

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Speaker 2: Just got a problem. It's trying to stop a leak

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Speaker 2: in multiple places at the moment because I've just got

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Speaker 2: myself an Apple Watch. I've got my phone here, and

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Speaker 2: i got my laptop here, and they're all communicating with

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Speaker 2: me and making noises, and it's very unproficient all to

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Speaker 2: have noise come on during a broadcast. Yeah, how old

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 3: You sound like my dad? How do I switch this

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Speaker 3: thing off? Why is it beeping at me?

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Speaker 2: No, dude, get out, I'm the most I am so

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Speaker 2: technologically advanced you are. I just don't know how to

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Speaker 2: turn down my watch. Okay, I'm not an old man

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Speaker 2: that doesn't know how to use things.

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Speaker 8: How do you get?

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Speaker 2: How do you? But having said that, nine two nine two,

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Speaker 2: how do you make your Apple watch stop beeping when

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Speaker 2: you're trying to do a radio show? I just pressed

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Speaker 2: that and now it's recording this and sending a text

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Speaker 2: message to my partner. I didn't mean to do that.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic all the way right onto the show today because

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Speaker 3: it's Friday. That means at the end of the show

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Speaker 3: each Friday we have topical tune.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I was going to write the eddmin

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Speaker 2: Best of five calls on eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've stuffed it up again? Okay, you no? So

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Speaker 3: originally we had first of three, but we're changing it

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Speaker 3: now to the first of five.

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Speaker 2: I'm dealing with my Apple watch here, I haven't got

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Speaker 2: time for the topical tune.

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Speaker 3: Right, So here are the rules. We each peck a

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Speaker 3: song related to a topic of the week. The more tenuous,

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Speaker 3: the better, I say. And I think I've got to

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Speaker 3: votes via phone calls only, we don't take dicks, takes

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Speaker 2: You know you've got it wrong. It's the first of three,

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Speaker 2: best of five.

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Speaker 3: You said you want to figure it out before we

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Speaker 2: We both play a song based on a topic and

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Speaker 2: people vote on our weight one hundred eighty ten eighty right.

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Speaker 3: That is after three thirty, and it's going to be

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Speaker 3: three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It's the New Zealand of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Every week we announce the Matt and Tyler ZBI afternoons

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Speaker 2: New Zealand of the Week. Who will it be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, I know I always say this, but more

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Speaker 3: Who is going to Yeah, that is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: And also we want to have a chat about fake grass.

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Speaker 3: It is a rising in popularity in New Zealand. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people go for the fake grass option.

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Speaker 2: And I understand why you find it offensive.

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Speaker 3: I find it very, very strange. There's nothing to me

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Speaker 3: like the feel of real grass on berefoot, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean this look, it looks nice. But how long

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Speaker 3: does it look nice for? Maximum a year? And in

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Speaker 3: particularly you've got a pet, then it starts to stink

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a bit different now. It's more of

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Speaker 2: If you spend money on really quality fake grass, it

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Speaker 2: works pretty much like real grass, except for always looks green.

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Speaker 2: There's no weeds in it, there's no thistles, and you

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Speaker 2: don't have to mow it. It looks amazing. I was

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Speaker 2: around at a friend's house who's had this whole lawn

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Speaker 2: done fake and I was complimenting him over a beer. Boy,

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Speaker 2: he says, he says, Meddy, that's not a real lawn.

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Speaker 3: You can't have strong lawn, game of its faith. It

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Speaker 3: But anyway, that's the chat after three o'clock as well

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock. And this is going to be a

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Speaker 3: good discussion. This is on the back of Liam Lawson,

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Speaker 3: so he has reiterated his hardline approach to wanting to

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Speaker 3: weekend's Mexican Grand Prix. But he said, I quote, I

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Speaker 3: am not here to make friends. That's a bit of

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Speaker 3: a turnaround for Liam, who has long projected himself as

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it, and we're very proud of him

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Speaker 3: So he is an amazing talent. But do you need

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Speaker 3: to have a little bit of mongrel, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of I don't care about my competitors. I am not

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you need a bit of mongrel and you can

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Speaker 2: you can be robust. You can have robust conversations. I mean,

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Speaker 2: flipping people off at three hundred kilometers an hour is

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Speaker 2: probably not your average office workers go to reaction. But

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Speaker 2: I think you need a bit of mongrel. I think

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Speaker 3: A little bit of mongrel. That's going to be a

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Speaker 3: good chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 10: But right now we do want to.

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Speaker 2: This is our question. It's coming to the pointy end

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Speaker 2: of the election in America. Do we care too much

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Speaker 2: about American politics in New Zealand. I know I do.

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Speaker 2: I follow it closely, but I'm not proud of myself.

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Speaker 2: I think it's junk food. It's addictive. I can watch

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Speaker 2: about the US presidential election. But I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that person. I never heard of

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Speaker 2: American presidential election. Are we consuming thousands of hours of

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Speaker 3: What is the appeal? Because it's everywhere at the moment

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Speaker 2: But every journalist that's managed to put a case together

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Speaker 2: we certainly back here can't influence it in any way,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's exciting, though, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It is a spectacle? I put akin to sport. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people say politics is sports. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: there is an entertainment value to it, and no doubt

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Speaker 3: about it. If you were into this sort of thing,

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Speaker 3: and we are that this is entertaining, particularly when one

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Speaker 3: does bring a showmanship element to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not denying that at all, but I'm saying it's

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Speaker 2: junk food the whole of it. It's so exciting, both

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Speaker 2: It's just that it's the winning the day. It's the

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Speaker 2: ever never ending cycle. The twenty four hour news cycles

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Speaker 2: come down to about thirty seconds. I mean, he got

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Speaker 2: that there was an assassination attempt. That feels like it

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Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. That's how fast things are moving through.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's good for us to be too focused on the

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Speaker 2: American election.

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Speaker 3: Did we care this much about this than we did

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Speaker 3: to the last four years. I'm trying to cast my

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Speaker 3: mind back. I mean, that was a heck of a

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Speaker 3: long time ago. Considering what's happened in those four years,

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Speaker 3: I think we did. This was probably more of a

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Speaker 3: slow burn, right, it's ramping up now in New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: media and headlines, and people are talking about it out

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Speaker 3: there in the newsroom and on the street as well.

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Speaker 3: Friends I chat to, it comes up in conversation, why

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Speaker 3: are we so invested in the UIs eliction?

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Speaker 8: Tyler?

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Speaker 2: How much did you care about the christ Church City

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Speaker 2: council elections? The local body elections? How much did you

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Speaker 2: care about those? Those are the ones that really affect

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Speaker 2: your life day to day and you didn't care about

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Speaker 3: Take it away, Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: Extremely a Cato.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: Where we are talking about the US election. It's five

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is so invested in this election. People are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if it is a good, Dallas to follow

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Speaker 2: So do I Dallas. And also, of course your name

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Speaker 12: Have you got Trumps arrangement syndrome? I think we all

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Speaker 12: What won't we won't get the result on Wednesday? You

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean last one it took what he long?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I seriously feel dirty if because I get

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Speaker 1: Mold of the big names are on the Mike Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 14: Boris Johnson. I had the best time with him yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty five past one, Blair, how are you good?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys? How you doing very good.

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Speaker 9: It's a Friday, so you know you can't complain. Now

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, the city count the Christiet City

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Speaker 2: But I get this is not really what I want.

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Speaker 2: To take a more philosophical approach to this. Blair, and

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Speaker 2: might be not as exciting, it's the same as broccoli

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Speaker 2: It doesn't help me be a better talk about post

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Speaker 9: But yes, I mean I'm quite a consumer of it.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, It's just all I was going to

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Speaker 2: When do you do you watch? Do you get your

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Speaker 9: I get a lot of it from YouTube?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I find that's where I find myself losing

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Speaker 3: We love it.

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Speaker 2: And then then I then I finally like pull myself,

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean you should. You've got to land a multitask, mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd keeel myself off the couch like Homer Simpson.

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Speaker 2: I don't even notice I've been sweating there. I didn't

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Speaker 2: Come and play scrabble. Well, you would never say.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Rayleen. It's twenty seven to term.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the US election and are we to

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Speaker 3: invest it? Why is it so much of a big

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Speaker 3: thing in New Zealand and the is it bigger here

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Speaker 3: than it is in the likes of Germany or France

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Speaker 3: or the UK in terms of how we talk about it,

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Speaker 3: what we see online.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't think this is this is my

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Speaker 2: fault because I haven't really explained myself free well. I

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Speaker 2: think people misunderstanding my point. My point is I'm saying

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Speaker 2: it doesn't help us, and it doesn't make me feel good,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like it's a waste of time, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm eating junk food when I follow

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Speaker 2: the American election and people are saying, well, bad things

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Speaker 2: could happen from both sides depending on what your political

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Speaker 2: views are. But can I do something incredibly pretentious? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a pass pretentious. This probably might be

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Speaker 2: a word beginning with W more than pretentious. But I

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Speaker 2: was going to read what I because I want to

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Speaker 2: accentuate my point here, and so I want to read

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Speaker 2: something from my book, A Lifeless Punishing okay, okay, ye

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Speaker 2: worry gets confused with preparation. Will worrying make you feel

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Speaker 2: like you're preparing for the future, You might not be.

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Speaker 2: Preparation is this human superpower that created civilization. Worrying is

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Speaker 2: mostly just a spinning of mental wills. We've succeeded as

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Speaker 2: a species because of our ability to resist the immediate

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Speaker 2: award in favor of working, designing, saving, and building. You

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Speaker 2: can sit inside worrying about the state of your house,

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Speaker 2: or you can make a plan to paint it, which

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Speaker 2: is what I'm currently doing. It's a big job, especially

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Speaker 2: the preparation, but now that I'm doing it, I'm much

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Speaker 2: less worried about future leaks. You can spend time worrying

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Speaker 2: that someone younger or seemingly better than you might get

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Speaker 2: your job, or you could do your job really well.

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Speaker 2: So my point in that in the chapter and Worry

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Speaker 2: is that worry isn't doing anything. YEA worrying sitting on

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Speaker 2: the couch watching YouTube clips about the American election, whichever

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Speaker 2: way you tend and being stressed out about what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen in the future is not doing anything at

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Speaker 2: all except for damaging you. It's not something you're working

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Speaker 2: on or something you're building to. We don't even get

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Speaker 2: to vote in that election, so we don't have any

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Speaker 2: say in at all, so worrying about it I don't

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Speaker 2: personally think is a productive way to spend your life.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching it purely like sport, and you enjoy

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Speaker 2: it under that level, and you're just enjoying the spectacle

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Speaker 2: and the ups and downs, but you're not stressing out

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Speaker 2: and worrying about it, then go for your life. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to choose people's entertainment. I'll watch a horror

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Speaker 2: movie and get stressed out about it.

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Speaker 3: Nicely see it. You've also reminded me I need to

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Speaker 3: paint my house.

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Speaker 2: Ray mind you need to buy my book today.

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Speaker 4: Matt get A Taylor, how are you going?

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Speaker 19: You're good?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Matt?

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Speaker 20: I completely agree with you. I don't eat takeaways very often,

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Speaker 20: but when I do, I want the KFC double down

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Speaker 20: I one of the most unhealthy things. Yes, now I

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Speaker 20: am intrigued and I love the US politics. I feel

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Speaker 20: so sorry for my wife though. Last weekend I made

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Speaker 20: a sit through the Trump rally and the JD. Varnes

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Speaker 20: podcast with CEO von and the Trump Podcast worth Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 20: We had a weekend, the whole weekend of just watching

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Speaker 20: Trump stuff. My wife has got almost no interest in this,

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Speaker 20: but she'll, you know, she'll go along with it for

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Speaker 20: a little while with me. But here two days last weekend,

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Speaker 20: I've now got to give her probably a rest until

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Speaker 20: after the elections.

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Speaker 17: And it's kind of.

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Speaker 20: Hard to say why it's so interesting, but for me

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Speaker 20: it's because it's because it's such a polarriving thing. People

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Speaker 20: have very strong opinions either way on both Trump and Harris,

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Speaker 20: and I am just loving watching it all play out.

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Speaker 20: I think the real obvious thing for American voters, and

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Speaker 20: I think this is just speaking truth, is everyone knows

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Speaker 20: their track record of Trump. They can see how Trump

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Speaker 20: was when he was four years in president, and you

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Speaker 20: can you can draw your conclusions from that about whether

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Speaker 20: the world was more or less stable, what his position

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Speaker 20: was on things, how he reacted to crisis and chaos.

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Speaker 20: You've also got Harris, who's been who's the incumbent, basically

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Speaker 20: who's been in government with Biden's the last four years,

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Speaker 20: so you can also see how the Democrats and the

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Speaker 20: Democratic Party have reacted to situations, what they have or

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Speaker 20: maybe have not done globally. So it's a very you know,

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Speaker 20: it's very a very clear map I think for Americans

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Speaker 20: who are voting about based on how the person they supported,

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Speaker 20: those what has been while I've been in power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Ray, my question for you, So you waterboard

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Speaker 2: your water boarded your wife for the want of a

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Speaker 2: bit of a word worth all that American politics over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. And look, I did a bit of it

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Speaker 2: the same, along with so much sport. But do you

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Speaker 2: think obviously it doesn't sound like she enjoyed it that much,

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Speaker 2: but do you think that was a good usage of

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Speaker 2: your time? Do you think it made you feel better

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Speaker 2: about the world? Do you think it was a productive

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Speaker 2: thing for you to do?

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Speaker 20: Ray, No, it was it was really unproductive. That I

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Speaker 20: enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: And like I mean, if you if you loved it

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Speaker 2: and you enjoyed it, then that is no, that is

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Speaker 2: no problem at all. I'm never going to question well,

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Speaker 2: within reason, I'm going to question so people enjoying some stuff.

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Speaker 20: But and whether whether my wife loved it or enjoyed it, well,

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Speaker 20: that's like that's that wasn't the question you asked me.

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Speaker 3: She's not a convert obviously to us politics. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: you'll keep trying, Ray.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I will.

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Speaker 20: I will and say that's like I just love it.

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Speaker 20: I love watching a playout. Like I'm going to an

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Speaker 20: event next Wednesday with the Chamber of Commerce from America

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Speaker 20: at a pub in town, so I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 20: to that.

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Speaker 3: I might be out there one that's the Empire just

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Speaker 3: down downstairs.

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Speaker 20: I'll be there, Will there, you've been there.

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Speaker 2: You come come along. We'll ever be here, all right.

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Speaker 20: I haven't mean, I haven't mean I haven't met me.

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Speaker 2: I see like a really if you see a really

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Speaker 2: good looking guy about six foot two buff, that's me.

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Speaker 3: We're actually on air at that time, but Matt will

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Speaker 3: be down there in some capacity, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But Ray was very close to where we are, so

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Speaker 2: I'll be nipping down.

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Speaker 3: In bats all right, right too, So mate, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much. It is twenty to two. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to you, the.

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Speaker 1: US that affect you, and a bit of fun along

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Speaker 1: the way Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons you for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: You talk very good afternoon, Stan.

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Speaker 22: How are you on good thanks, Tyler. I think this

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Speaker 22: election is hugely consequential for the world, no doubt, for

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Speaker 22: America and for the world, no doubt. I think it

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Speaker 22: was Eisenhower who said that one of the biggest things

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Speaker 22: to fear for America was the industrial military complex. Trump's

596
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Speaker 22: outside of the establishment. He's not a politician, as you

597
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Speaker 22: can see from some of the loose things he says

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Speaker 22: with his mouth. But quite quite honestly, I think he's

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Speaker 22: fast preparative to the current regime. That's some power now.

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Speaker 3: But aside from that stand and that look, there will

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Speaker 3: be a lot of differing views on the particular candidates

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Speaker 3: running this time. But for you, as as a New

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Speaker 3: Zealand citizen, you do you enjoy watching or do you

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Speaker 3: are you genuinely invested because you think it is hugely

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Speaker 3: important to us and the rest of the world.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, the latter, the latter, I mean, I feel the

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Speaker 22: suge consequence. You can just see the disaster and what's

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Speaker 22: happening in Roughia, Ukraine, that's a totally disaster.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that you can have Sorry to interrupt

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Speaker 2: you this Stan, but do you think you can have

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Speaker 2: an impact on that or do you think it's not important.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you just want to be across it

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Speaker 2: because you think it's important, even though it's not really

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Speaker 2: something that we can have any impact on here in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: Honestly, we don't vote. Actually, the security of the relic

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Speaker 22: system for overseas voters so likes that you could actually

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Speaker 22: vote it's a New Zealand citizen.

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Speaker 3: Well again, Stan, we're not going to take it to

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Speaker 3: those sort of allegations. We're just got to stick to

621
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Speaker 3: the point here. But you think it is hugely important,

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Speaker 3: but just check this at you. So the Australian election, right,

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Speaker 3: and we follow that to some extent, but not to

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Speaker 3: the same extent that we're following the US election. We're

625
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Speaker 3: not running a running, rolling coverage.

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Speaker 2: A week before.

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Speaker 3: You'd argue to New Zealand, not to the world, but

628
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Speaker 3: to New Zealand, that would be a more important election

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Speaker 3: than the US election.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, but the Studia doesn't have a world and pair

631
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Speaker 22: worldwide and pair. You know, America America is keeping China

632
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Speaker 22: out of Taiwan. I mean, America, like it or not,

633
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Speaker 22: is still pretty much the world policeman. Not that they

634
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Speaker 22: always get things right, but quite honestly, They're a restraining

635
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Speaker 22: force on some of the crazy regimes around around the world.

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Speaker 22: North Korea. I mean, remember when Trump went to North

637
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Speaker 22: Korea against all advice and spoke to a little rocket

638
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Speaker 22: man when he was firing rockets over Japan. And after

639
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Speaker 22: Trump went, you know, with firing rocket stops now Stan.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt that it has significant for the world,

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Speaker 2: and there's no doubt it's literally and exciting and important.

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Speaker 2: But do you wish like me? Kind of? I mean,

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00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:16,133
Speaker 2: and I'm heavily invested in the election, so I'm not

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00:31:16,213 --> 00:31:19,653
Speaker 2: judging anyone for being that way. I just wish I

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00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 2: was the type of person that could be as invested

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Speaker 2: in local bolo. And that sounds ridiculous, sounds ridiculous to

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Speaker 2: even say it because the difference is so large, But

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Speaker 2: I wish stand that I could be the kind of

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00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,453
Speaker 2: person that knew all the counselors I was voting for,

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Speaker 2: knew everything that affected my neighborhood and my community, and

651
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Speaker 2: yet my focus is on something that's happening ten five

652
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Speaker 2: hundred kilometers away. Do you wish? So you go, no,

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Speaker 2: you go stand.

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Speaker 22: I mean, I've got a reasonably good handle on I mean,

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Speaker 22: I lived in the Walton leagues, and I've got a

656
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Speaker 22: pretty good handle on local politics as well. I guess

657
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Speaker 22: I'm reasonly aware of what's happened with locally and nations.

658
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Speaker 22: I guess there's a lot of people who see the

659
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Speaker 22: prs of the American election and all the blazing rights

660
00:32:11,013 --> 00:32:14,933
Speaker 22: in the media. That's that's all around us. What you

661
00:32:14,973 --> 00:32:18,853
Speaker 22: don't often see with local local politics. But I am

662
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:22,813
Speaker 22: kind of quite aware of what's happening locally, like in

663
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Speaker 22: the Wellington region as well. But I think the consequences

664
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Speaker 22: of getting it wrong in America is hugely more consequential

665
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Speaker 22: than if we get the wrong local politicians.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for you for your call

667
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Speaker 2: the stand, and I admire you for being across your

668
00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:49,093
Speaker 2: local body elections. I'm going to try my best. I'm

669
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Speaker 2: actually going to try and focus on it. And it

670
00:32:52,093 --> 00:32:54,373
Speaker 2: is like eating gruel when there's.

671
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Speaker 3: It is boring, but arguably to feature your life broccoli,

672
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Speaker 3: BROCCOLI's growl.

673
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:04,253
Speaker 2: But my partner's really trying to make me broccoli.

674
00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:06,253
Speaker 3: And you feel so much better when you do the

675
00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:06,653
Speaker 3: right thing.

676
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Speaker 2: And someone has made a good point here, guys. There

677
00:33:08,773 --> 00:33:12,213
Speaker 2: are a number of us living in New Zealand that

678
00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:14,733
Speaker 2: vote in the US or Australian elections, And that's true,

679
00:33:14,813 --> 00:33:17,733
Speaker 2: and people that do vote in the US elections, then

680
00:33:17,773 --> 00:33:20,733
Speaker 2: they do have an effect. They do have an opportunity

681
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Speaker 2: to make a difference that I certainly don't.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Rods, how are you?

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Speaker 23: I'm good, Matt and Tyler. Yeah, First and foremost, I

684
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Speaker 23: must apologize. I don't know what came over me, but

685
00:33:31,453 --> 00:33:33,213
Speaker 23: I said a text the other day saying.

686
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Speaker 4: Oh, this is bloody boring, and.

687
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Speaker 23: Then I realized what I do that for, because it's

688
00:33:38,253 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 23: been bloody good.

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Speaker 17: Oh, you guys are great.

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Speaker 3: You're always welcome here, Rod, don't. I mean, we get

691
00:33:43,213 --> 00:33:44,453
Speaker 3: a lot of around the day, mate.

692
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Speaker 2: If we are boring, if we are getting boring, we

693
00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:48,813
Speaker 2: do want you to keep us honest.

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Speaker 23: Tyler is the sort of he's now now he's in

695
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Speaker 23: there with.

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Speaker 7: The z B crew, he's the renegade.

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Speaker 23: I can see it falling into that good cop, bad

698
00:34:01,813 --> 00:34:02,453
Speaker 23: cop sort of.

699
00:34:04,373 --> 00:34:09,013
Speaker 22: But anyway, regarding the interest, you.

700
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Speaker 23: Know, with American politics and what's going to happen, I

701
00:34:12,053 --> 00:34:15,613
Speaker 23: don't think you'd feel any shame or badness about it.

702
00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:17,933
Speaker 23: I mean, it's the first time in history, really that

703
00:34:18,013 --> 00:34:21,212
Speaker 23: we can solve this stuff so closely, and I think

704
00:34:21,253 --> 00:34:23,732
Speaker 23: we take it for granted a lot of the time now,

705
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:28,133
Speaker 23: you know, with the communication around the world, and I

706
00:34:28,253 --> 00:34:32,293
Speaker 23: just think simply a simple answer is whatever happens in

707
00:34:32,333 --> 00:34:34,813
Speaker 23: the United States is going to affect the rest of

708
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Speaker 23: the globe. And that's how it is, whether you like

709
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Speaker 23: it or not.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, I've got a question for you. The other night,

711
00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:44,413
Speaker 2: I spent three hours watching YouTube clips in the American

712
00:34:44,453 --> 00:34:47,413
Speaker 2: election when my kids are upstairs. Wouldn't it have been

713
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Speaker 2: better if I'd peeled myself off that couch, got my

714
00:34:50,493 --> 00:34:53,413
Speaker 2: kids and said, let's go walk the dog, Let's play

715
00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:56,133
Speaker 2: a board game, let's play guitar, Let's spend some time

716
00:34:56,173 --> 00:34:58,093
Speaker 2: together with my family that are there. That's what I

717
00:34:58,133 --> 00:35:00,413
Speaker 2: should be doing as a parent, and sorting out what's

718
00:35:00,453 --> 00:35:03,413
Speaker 2: closest to me, and that's where my energy should be focused.

719
00:35:03,533 --> 00:35:06,253
Speaker 2: And after that my community around me, and then after

720
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:09,732
Speaker 2: that local body elections, then New Zealand as and that

721
00:35:09,973 --> 00:35:13,853
Speaker 2: my focus on the American elections is should be down

722
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:15,413
Speaker 2: the list of the things that I spent my time

723
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:18,212
Speaker 2: worrying about. I wish I was that person. I want

724
00:35:18,213 --> 00:35:18,973
Speaker 2: to be that person.

725
00:35:19,093 --> 00:35:21,013
Speaker 3: Right, this is free therapy for Matt.

726
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Speaker 23: I think I think Mad needs to realize that.

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Speaker 24: I think he's brought up a bloody good point which

728
00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:30,772
Speaker 24: you could use for you know, slice of the show

729
00:35:30,853 --> 00:35:34,413
Speaker 24: sometime in the future. Is this, you know, lack of

730
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Speaker 24: interest in local body stuff. And I've only just taken

731
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Speaker 24: you know, an interest in the last two years, and

732
00:35:41,613 --> 00:35:47,733
Speaker 24: I've forced myself really because it's really thats and it's.

733
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Speaker 23: Something that I think we really need to connect with.

734
00:35:50,493 --> 00:35:54,213
Speaker 23: Maybe there's not the drama or the you know, the

735
00:35:54,293 --> 00:35:58,533
Speaker 23: apocalyptic sort of angle to it.

736
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we vote people in the then right,

737
00:36:01,973 --> 00:36:04,613
Speaker 2: we vote people in into local body politics and we go,

738
00:36:04,653 --> 00:36:07,853
Speaker 2: why is this muppet doing that? I've never heard of him.

739
00:36:09,813 --> 00:36:11,573
Speaker 2: And then you check the numbers of people that voted

740
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Speaker 2: for them, you go that, well, that's the problem because

741
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:15,613
Speaker 2: I've never heard of them. And I didn't focus on

742
00:36:15,653 --> 00:36:17,613
Speaker 2: what was happening around me because I was looking at

743
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:19,853
Speaker 2: the shiny object on the other side of the world.

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Speaker 23: Well, I reckon, it's a big issue these days, especially

745
00:36:23,453 --> 00:36:25,533
Speaker 23: these days, you know, when you look at the difference.

746
00:36:25,933 --> 00:36:29,533
Speaker 23: So I reckon it's worthwhile some afternoon just seeing what

747
00:36:29,573 --> 00:36:32,453
Speaker 23: other people saying. Dan bringing up the bloody awareness of

748
00:36:33,493 --> 00:36:39,133
Speaker 23: the importance of it. Yeah, look, ratio, guys, I've turned.

749
00:36:40,053 --> 00:36:44,133
Speaker 23: I've finally realized it's damn good. But watch your for that.

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Speaker 3: Matt, you're a wise man. Rod, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to you, cool mate.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call love to hear from you. It is nine

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Speaker 3: minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

756
00:36:59,373 --> 00:37:02,373
Speaker 1: Matath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 3: NEWSTALKSB News TALKSB seven minutes to two A Josh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, the right, that's right with the customer.

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Speaker 25: Hey, guys, yeah, no, this whole I'm quite philosophical about

760
00:37:18,813 --> 00:37:21,613
Speaker 25: what's going on over there. And you know it's it's

761
00:37:21,613 --> 00:37:23,613
Speaker 25: funny because we hear everyone say, well, I'm going to

762
00:37:23,733 --> 00:37:28,053
Speaker 25: do this, and someone else is I'm going to do that. Realistically,

763
00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:29,973
Speaker 25: I mean, what's going to change?

764
00:37:30,053 --> 00:37:30,252
Speaker 6: Right?

765
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Speaker 25: Like we vote? We vote changed, don't we and you

766
00:37:33,893 --> 00:37:38,173
Speaker 25: know you he's not going to like, as an example,

767
00:37:38,773 --> 00:37:43,013
Speaker 25: draining the swamp. It's a concept that one could achieve

768
00:37:43,213 --> 00:37:46,253
Speaker 25: if you'd hung around for twenty years first before you

769
00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,933
Speaker 25: become president. But if you don't know the landscape. How

770
00:37:49,973 --> 00:37:51,013
Speaker 25: can you drain a swamp?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but going back to in this fair point, Josh,

772
00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:57,013
Speaker 3: but going back to the idea that this is a

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00:37:57,053 --> 00:38:00,053
Speaker 3: spectacle and it might be akin to sport. If you're

774
00:38:00,053 --> 00:38:03,853
Speaker 3: into politics, then this is the World Series of Politics,

775
00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:06,893
Speaker 3: right if you admit that you enjoy it from an

776
00:38:07,013 --> 00:38:08,933
Speaker 3: entertainment aspect, is there any thing wrong with it?

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Speaker 25: I mean, I'm a little bit more serious, Like, I'm

778
00:38:14,213 --> 00:38:15,893
Speaker 25: not an idiot who's going to sit in front of

779
00:38:15,973 --> 00:38:18,973
Speaker 25: CNN and maybec or Fox for three hours. I just

780
00:38:19,013 --> 00:38:25,293
Speaker 25: can't put up with that sort of psychological barrage of gaslighting.

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00:38:25,453 --> 00:38:27,693
Speaker 25: You know, it's just gaslighting. It's like I should be

782
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:30,013
Speaker 25: in fair therefore I need to vote for this person.

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00:38:31,213 --> 00:38:33,093
Speaker 25: It's just a ridiculous going on. But what I have

784
00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:36,213
Speaker 25: looked at is, did you guys see the Jordan Peterson

785
00:38:36,293 --> 00:38:39,253
Speaker 25: podcast the psychoanalysis of Donald Trump?

786
00:38:39,373 --> 00:38:42,212
Speaker 2: No, no, no, check that out.

787
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Speaker 25: At first I thought I was optimistic. I said, oh, yes,

788
00:38:45,493 --> 00:38:48,773
Speaker 25: this will be good, and then I thought, well, the

789
00:38:48,853 --> 00:38:51,813
Speaker 25: problem is is Jordan does have a political bias towards

790
00:38:51,813 --> 00:38:56,333
Speaker 25: Trump anyway, So it's like, how genuine is that psychoanalysis

791
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:59,333
Speaker 25: going to be? It's actually pretty good. It's actually pretty good.

792
00:38:59,373 --> 00:39:03,053
Speaker 25: But as he progressed through the podcast, ends up talking

793
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:07,533
Speaker 25: about a fantasy dream team, Republican dream team, and I

794
00:39:07,533 --> 00:39:10,333
Speaker 25: was like, oh my, you just scooed the whole thing

795
00:39:10,413 --> 00:39:13,373
Speaker 25: by just focusing on your own bias.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 3: He's an interesting foul a. Jordan Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck finding anyone without a bias to listen

799
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:21,093
Speaker 2: to a comment on Someone has made a really good

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00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:23,172
Speaker 2: point on nine two ninety two, and I was talking

801
00:39:23,173 --> 00:39:25,813
Speaker 2: about I'm sitting there on the couch watching YouTube about

802
00:39:25,813 --> 00:39:29,133
Speaker 2: the American politics, where meanwhile my kids are upstairs, and

803
00:39:29,173 --> 00:39:30,893
Speaker 2: I should be being a dad and hanging out with

804
00:39:30,933 --> 00:39:33,813
Speaker 2: my kids and walking the dog, etc. And doing something wholesome.

805
00:39:33,813 --> 00:39:37,653
Speaker 2: Someone said, Matt Spark. It was Matt, watch the election

806
00:39:37,773 --> 00:39:39,693
Speaker 2: next week after work with your kids and make it

807
00:39:39,733 --> 00:39:42,413
Speaker 2: fun and engage and get some popcorn going. They'll be

808
00:39:42,453 --> 00:39:45,133
Speaker 2: watching history play it and play out in real time.

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00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:48,733
Speaker 2: I could be a great parent and a political junkie

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00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:49,853
Speaker 2: at the same.

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Speaker 3: Time point and it means a genius.

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00:39:51,853 --> 00:39:53,933
Speaker 2: And then maybe I could have a little bit of

813
00:39:54,493 --> 00:39:57,253
Speaker 2: local body politics. I could read some council notes on

814
00:39:57,293 --> 00:39:59,573
Speaker 2: the side as well, and then I'll be the well rounded,

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00:39:59,573 --> 00:40:01,053
Speaker 2: perfect human being that I want to be.

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Speaker 3: Haha, good luck getting your kids to watch Parliament TV.

817
00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,293
Speaker 3: I mean now Bory. But anyway, good jet. We're going

818
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Speaker 3: to change it up very shortly. We want to talk

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00:40:09,253 --> 00:40:12,053
Speaker 3: about Liam Lawson and him getting a little bit of

820
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Speaker 3: mongrel in him as a nice guy. Is that what

821
00:40:14,613 --> 00:40:16,853
Speaker 3: you need to get a hit at the elite level?

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00:40:16,853 --> 00:40:18,933
Speaker 3: That's coming up very shortly. Oh, eight, one hundred and

823
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:20,692
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two

824
00:40:20,773 --> 00:40:23,093
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number. You're listening to Matt

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Speaker 3: and Tyler. Very good afternoon to.

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Speaker 7: You talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Zibby, welcome back into the show. Six pass too great

830
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Speaker 3: to have your company. Really enjoyed that last hour. But

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Speaker 3: we've got another topic on the table and this will

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Speaker 3: be a doozy as well, considering the number of texts

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Speaker 3: we've already got. Do you need a little bit of mongrel?

834
00:40:49,053 --> 00:40:51,172
Speaker 3: Need to be a little bit aggressive, a little bit

835
00:40:51,173 --> 00:40:53,933
Speaker 3: of a bad guy to get a hit at the

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Speaker 3: elite level, whether it's in sport, business life. This is

837
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Speaker 3: on the back of Liam Lawson, and he is the

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00:40:59,973 --> 00:41:03,573
Speaker 3: ultimate nice guy, and I think genuinely he is. See wow,

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Speaker 3: he's a young guy who is achieving great things.

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Speaker 2: Hugely proud of him. But I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: the ALTI A nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Well that is the image that he portrays. He's a

843
00:41:11,653 --> 00:41:14,493
Speaker 3: good looking kid. He's been nice and he got a

844
00:41:14,493 --> 00:41:16,333
Speaker 3: bit of a taling off after he flipped the bird

845
00:41:16,933 --> 00:41:20,893
Speaker 3: to Sergio Perez at the Mexico Grand Prix.

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00:41:20,933 --> 00:41:23,693
Speaker 2: That's one of my life goals to be safely flip

847
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Speaker 2: the bird at someone at three hundred and fifty kilometers

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Speaker 2: an hour.

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Speaker 3: Not many people get to do that. Well, you could

850
00:41:30,053 --> 00:41:31,613
Speaker 3: jump on an airplane and do it, but it doesn't

851
00:41:31,653 --> 00:41:35,133
Speaker 3: have the same effect. That doesn't that's true. But he

852
00:41:35,333 --> 00:41:38,933
Speaker 3: so he's due to race this weekend and he came

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00:41:38,973 --> 00:41:41,933
Speaker 3: out and he did somewhat apologize for flipping the bird

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00:41:41,973 --> 00:41:45,053
Speaker 3: to Sergio, but he went on to say that I

855
00:41:45,173 --> 00:41:47,613
Speaker 3: am just focused on having the best possible race each

856
00:41:47,693 --> 00:41:50,453
Speaker 3: time I get in the card direct quote. Honestly, that's

857
00:41:50,493 --> 00:41:52,973
Speaker 3: all I'm trying to do at the moment. Maybe I'm aggressive,

858
00:41:53,173 --> 00:41:55,893
Speaker 3: but I'm here for one reason. Obviously. My goal is

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00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:58,212
Speaker 3: to not go out and make enemies of everybody. I'm

860
00:41:58,213 --> 00:42:00,413
Speaker 3: not trying to cause any issues or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I am not here to

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Speaker 3: make friends. I am here to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want to talk about that, We want

864
00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:11,573
Speaker 2: to talk about being well, we want to talk about mongrel.

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Speaker 2: If you want to succeed in everything, you can't always

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Speaker 2: be trying to make friends or can.

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Speaker 3: You Well a competitive world and everything's got to be

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00:42:21,893 --> 00:42:24,853
Speaker 3: everything's competitive. I suppose if you have an ambition and

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Speaker 3: you want to get to the top of whatever field

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Speaker 3: you're in, whether it's sports, business, whatever, can you have

871
00:42:31,173 --> 00:42:36,133
Speaker 3: a little bit of mongrel and still get on with

872
00:42:36,173 --> 00:42:36,893
Speaker 3: people around you?

873
00:42:37,333 --> 00:42:39,213
Speaker 2: I would put it the other way. Can you succeed

874
00:42:39,253 --> 00:42:42,093
Speaker 2: without a little bit of mongrel? I think everyone needs

875
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:43,973
Speaker 2: a little bit of mongrel if they're going to succeed.

876
00:42:44,133 --> 00:42:45,773
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say in every aspect of your life you

877
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,133
Speaker 2: want to be competiti if you don't want to compete

878
00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 2: with your kids. I don't think you want to compete

879
00:42:50,813 --> 00:42:52,733
Speaker 2: with your kids. Well, you know you can in a

880
00:42:52,773 --> 00:42:53,732
Speaker 2: running race, that's sure.

881
00:42:53,933 --> 00:42:54,133
Speaker 26: Yeah.

882
00:42:54,213 --> 00:42:57,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, you give them one backyard cricket, you've got to

883
00:42:57,253 --> 00:42:57,613
Speaker 2: send it.

884
00:42:57,693 --> 00:42:59,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, smack that first six.

885
00:42:59,333 --> 00:43:01,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to you got to come off the

886
00:43:01,053 --> 00:43:03,933
Speaker 2: back fence at pace. Yeah and drop it in short

887
00:43:03,973 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 2: on your kids. Absolutely, one hundred percent. But I think

888
00:43:07,213 --> 00:43:11,253
Speaker 2: mongrels are really important and he's just saying the absolute truth.

889
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:13,253
Speaker 2: I mean the idea that you're a nice guy in

890
00:43:13,293 --> 00:43:17,173
Speaker 2: sport completely you have to do everything you can to

891
00:43:17,293 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 2: win within the rules of the game and sometimes in

892
00:43:20,933 --> 00:43:24,573
Speaker 2: the It might be controversial to say, but everyone's favorite

893
00:43:24,773 --> 00:43:29,013
Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby player, Richie mccaugh nice guy. But he

894
00:43:29,093 --> 00:43:33,812
Speaker 2: did everything within the rules and arguably in the gray

895
00:43:33,853 --> 00:43:38,133
Speaker 2: areas to win. He definitely had mongy and that's one

896
00:43:38,133 --> 00:43:39,853
Speaker 2: of the great things about rugby is you get to

897
00:43:39,893 --> 00:43:43,453
Speaker 2: show your moong rule by knocking people on their backs.

898
00:43:43,493 --> 00:43:45,093
Speaker 2: That's one of the great things about that sport.

899
00:43:45,213 --> 00:43:49,933
Speaker 3: But to Richie McCaw, we New Zealanders thought he was

900
00:43:49,933 --> 00:43:51,733
Speaker 3: a nice guy and he is a nice guy. But

901
00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:55,453
Speaker 3: England didn't think it was a nice guy. Australia didn't

902
00:43:55,453 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 3: think he was a nice guy. South Africa they might

903
00:43:58,093 --> 00:43:59,933
Speaker 3: have been a little bit more friendly to the style

904
00:43:59,973 --> 00:44:01,573
Speaker 3: of I think they respect him.

905
00:44:01,493 --> 00:44:04,173
Speaker 2: They respect him. I think they respect him as a

906
00:44:04,213 --> 00:44:07,212
Speaker 2: person and as a player and I think there's very

907
00:44:07,213 --> 00:44:08,893
Speaker 2: few of those people that he played again that wouldn't

908
00:44:08,893 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 2: want to have a beer with them after a game.

909
00:44:11,613 --> 00:44:15,652
Speaker 2: And you know, when they all retire, there's no one

910
00:44:15,773 --> 00:44:19,253
Speaker 2: better buddies than international players that really went hard at

911
00:44:19,253 --> 00:44:23,252
Speaker 2: each other when they were playing. But I'd say that's

912
00:44:23,293 --> 00:44:26,293
Speaker 2: even even in business, right because right now we've got

913
00:44:26,333 --> 00:44:28,212
Speaker 2: this thing where you're not supposed to really fire up

914
00:44:28,853 --> 00:44:32,893
Speaker 2: and yell at people, but I think you can. I

915
00:44:32,893 --> 00:44:35,253
Speaker 2: think it's all right to fire up and sometimes get

916
00:44:35,253 --> 00:44:36,933
Speaker 2: a bit heated, and that doesn't mean you're not a

917
00:44:37,013 --> 00:44:40,773
Speaker 2: nice guy, but you've got it. You're fighting your corner. Yeah,

918
00:44:40,893 --> 00:44:43,373
Speaker 2: I think I think mongrels are really really important thing.

919
00:44:43,493 --> 00:44:45,453
Speaker 3: Did you respect that and bosses that you've had, because

920
00:44:45,453 --> 00:44:48,013
Speaker 3: you've been in this game or the media game for

921
00:44:48,013 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 3: a long time and you've had great success in the

922
00:44:49,893 --> 00:44:52,252
Speaker 3: media game. Thanks mate, did you but in those early

923
00:44:52,333 --> 00:44:55,133
Speaker 3: days when you had bosses who were they had that

924
00:44:55,253 --> 00:44:58,772
Speaker 3: aggressive streak in them and clearly they were successful, but

925
00:44:59,013 --> 00:45:01,453
Speaker 3: people around them might not have liked them. Did you

926
00:45:01,773 --> 00:45:04,333
Speaker 3: respect how they went about that?

927
00:45:04,413 --> 00:45:07,853
Speaker 2: If they need song as someone's fear, if you do

928
00:45:07,933 --> 00:45:10,613
Speaker 2: something and you've done something wrong and someone fires up

929
00:45:10,613 --> 00:45:12,652
Speaker 2: at you a little bit within reason, then of course

930
00:45:12,693 --> 00:45:15,253
Speaker 2: that's okay. But if someone's just firing up all over

931
00:45:15,293 --> 00:45:17,613
Speaker 2: the shop because they're not having a good day and

932
00:45:17,653 --> 00:45:20,933
Speaker 2: it's random, then it's got to be focused. You've got

933
00:45:20,973 --> 00:45:23,133
Speaker 2: to be swimming in the same direction. And if you

934
00:45:23,213 --> 00:45:26,013
Speaker 2: let someone down, then you can expect to get a

935
00:45:26,053 --> 00:45:27,613
Speaker 2: little bit of a Southerly for it, can't.

936
00:45:27,413 --> 00:45:31,333
Speaker 3: You nicely said, I'll take it to the extreme Michael

937
00:45:31,373 --> 00:45:32,893
Speaker 3: Jordan and a lot of people would have seen that

938
00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:34,973
Speaker 3: documentary of The Last Dance, no doubt about it. Michael

939
00:45:35,053 --> 00:45:40,812
Speaker 3: Jordan was an ahole to his teammates.

940
00:45:37,853 --> 00:45:41,173
Speaker 2: And fantastic documentary and there's that moment actually, and I

941
00:45:41,173 --> 00:45:43,253
Speaker 2: can't remember the exact words, but they asked him, do

942
00:45:43,293 --> 00:45:46,413
Speaker 2: you think you were an ambition and your demands of

943
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:49,413
Speaker 2: your teammates meant that you ended up not really being

944
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:51,373
Speaker 2: the friends with them that you could have been. Because

945
00:45:51,373 --> 00:45:53,373
Speaker 2: he needed to fire himself up in a certain way,

946
00:45:53,853 --> 00:45:55,733
Speaker 2: and at that moment in the documentary, he sort of

947
00:45:55,733 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 2: tears up a little bit, doesn't he, And he gets

948
00:45:57,973 --> 00:46:01,692
Speaker 2: the cameras to be turned off because he's thinking, at

949
00:46:01,733 --> 00:46:04,933
Speaker 2: that point, I did miss out on friendships because I

950
00:46:05,013 --> 00:46:08,853
Speaker 2: was so focused on what I felt was important. I

951
00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:10,293
Speaker 2: mean that might be at the far end of it

952
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:13,693
Speaker 2: Grand Dalton, but you cannot argue with Michael Jordan's results.

953
00:46:13,773 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a winner. Grant Dalton very similar and again

954
00:46:16,933 --> 00:46:19,652
Speaker 3: he's one. Again he is a winner, but he is

955
00:46:19,693 --> 00:46:23,893
Speaker 3: despised by doing what he feels he needs to do

956
00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:26,933
Speaker 3: to win, I think much. I think it's.

957
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:30,613
Speaker 2: Slightly different in sport because you have to do whatever

958
00:46:30,653 --> 00:46:34,453
Speaker 2: you can to win for not just yourself but your

959
00:46:34,493 --> 00:46:38,613
Speaker 2: team and for your country or your supporters. But in

960
00:46:38,773 --> 00:46:42,773
Speaker 2: any kind of working environment, I think to a certain extent,

961
00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:46,812
Speaker 2: it's a very complex one because you are there kind

962
00:46:46,813 --> 00:46:49,293
Speaker 2: of to make friends, because a workplace is better and

963
00:46:49,293 --> 00:46:51,493
Speaker 2: that's a great place to socialize, and so many people

964
00:46:51,573 --> 00:46:55,893
Speaker 2: meet their partners at work, work, and and it's a

965
00:46:55,893 --> 00:46:58,613
Speaker 2: whole nother life that's outside. I mean, a great workplace,

966
00:46:58,933 --> 00:47:02,373
Speaker 2: you very work, really hard. Everyone's giving one hundred percent.

967
00:47:03,573 --> 00:47:06,652
Speaker 2: People are aggressive where they need to be, but they

968
00:47:06,733 --> 00:47:09,253
Speaker 2: end up being great friends and going out for a

969
00:47:09,253 --> 00:47:13,293
Speaker 2: beer on a Friday night afterwards. Absolutely, you have to

970
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:16,652
Speaker 2: have mongrel otherwise you're going to get stamped upon, You're

971
00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:19,373
Speaker 2: going to get you're going to get walked upon. You're

972
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:20,533
Speaker 2: going to be walked.

973
00:47:20,253 --> 00:47:23,252
Speaker 3: Over just quickly before we get to the calls. Let's

974
00:47:23,293 --> 00:47:28,213
Speaker 3: take it to say film Marlon Brando, right, h incredible actor,

975
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:32,013
Speaker 3: had some big problems in his life, but he was

976
00:47:32,053 --> 00:47:34,732
Speaker 3: despised on the film set, but he got the job

977
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:38,212
Speaker 3: done and he won Oscars celebrated as he.

978
00:47:38,213 --> 00:47:40,333
Speaker 2: Kind of got the job done accidentally sometimes like an

979
00:47:40,333 --> 00:47:43,213
Speaker 2: Apocalypse now when he turned up about one hundred kg's

980
00:47:43,253 --> 00:47:45,653
Speaker 2: overweight and they had to change the whole the whole

981
00:47:45,693 --> 00:47:47,933
Speaker 2: script to deal with the fact he hadn't done his

982
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:50,613
Speaker 2: job properly and cut down the size of his role.

983
00:47:50,613 --> 00:47:52,293
Speaker 2: But it actually ended up being brilliant. But I think

984
00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:55,093
Speaker 2: that was slightly dumb luck that situation there. France at

985
00:47:55,133 --> 00:47:57,693
Speaker 2: Ford Cobbler did a real quite a clever save on

986
00:47:57,733 --> 00:48:02,053
Speaker 2: that one. But that's kind of letting people down. I mean,

987
00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,013
Speaker 2: if you're working hard and you're doing the right thing,

988
00:48:04,053 --> 00:48:07,732
Speaker 2: and you're swimming in the same direction with people and

989
00:48:07,813 --> 00:48:11,652
Speaker 2: someone someone lets you down, then a little bit. I

990
00:48:11,653 --> 00:48:13,573
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything wrong with firing up a little bit.

991
00:48:13,733 --> 00:48:16,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get into this. So eight hundred

992
00:48:16,133 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It

993
00:48:17,933 --> 00:48:21,133
Speaker 3: is fourteen pass two.

994
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:25,252
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Torth Tyler Adams Afternoon Call.

995
00:48:25,413 --> 00:48:28,253
Speaker 1: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk said.

996
00:48:28,053 --> 00:48:30,013
Speaker 3: Be seventeen pass two.

997
00:48:30,293 --> 00:48:33,013
Speaker 2: Just sort of another great example of mongrel that's just

998
00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:36,613
Speaker 2: happened recently, the Near Tea winning the Constellation Cup. Yep,

999
00:48:37,373 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 2: when key we mungled up, that's when we started beating

1000
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:42,053
Speaker 2: the Aussies.

1001
00:48:42,173 --> 00:48:43,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, David, what's your take on this one?

1002
00:48:44,973 --> 00:48:50,252
Speaker 17: Oh, guys, I just started laughing at the useful word

1003
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:53,453
Speaker 17: a bit of mongrel. We have the mongol mob, don't we.

1004
00:48:53,853 --> 00:48:56,053
Speaker 2: That's probably too much mongrel there, there's there's way too much.

1005
00:48:56,453 --> 00:48:59,493
Speaker 3: You say that success though, I need to look for

1006
00:48:59,533 --> 00:49:00,333
Speaker 3: a different word.

1007
00:49:01,053 --> 00:49:02,573
Speaker 2: What what's a different word for it?

1008
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 17: But really that really is my point that I believe

1009
00:49:08,053 --> 00:49:11,333
Speaker 17: that at a mongol is essential. It's not just okay,

1010
00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:14,853
Speaker 17: it's essential because a few and evolutionary terms. Look back

1011
00:49:15,373 --> 00:49:18,893
Speaker 17: a few hundred thousand years when we were in the

1012
00:49:19,013 --> 00:49:21,613
Speaker 17: end of souls, right living in cave sending us our

1013
00:49:21,653 --> 00:49:26,212
Speaker 17: wife who was the you know he's going to producer now,

1014
00:49:26,573 --> 00:49:29,813
Speaker 17: is if a tiger came in, if he didn't have

1015
00:49:29,853 --> 00:49:33,652
Speaker 17: a bit of mongrel, the whole would be wiped out.

1016
00:49:34,293 --> 00:49:36,893
Speaker 2: It's a good point. The guy that negotiated with the

1017
00:49:37,093 --> 00:49:39,973
Speaker 2: sabertooth tiger did not last very long. The guy that

1018
00:49:40,053 --> 00:49:42,493
Speaker 2: was a nice guy to the fanged beast did not

1019
00:49:42,613 --> 00:49:43,133
Speaker 2: last long.

1020
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:43,413
Speaker 27: Yeah.

1021
00:49:44,573 --> 00:49:47,333
Speaker 17: And I just thinking back, just very quickly that at

1022
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:50,933
Speaker 17: the A side a few years ago. This is the

1023
00:49:51,013 --> 00:49:53,973
Speaker 17: true story. At a roundabout and Blenham, I got cut

1024
00:49:53,973 --> 00:49:56,333
Speaker 17: off by a guy on a motorbike and I flipped

1025
00:49:56,373 --> 00:50:00,772
Speaker 17: the bird of him. A few seconds later realized that, yeah,

1026
00:50:00,813 --> 00:50:04,533
Speaker 17: this was to go on his helmet, right, wrong guy.

1027
00:50:04,653 --> 00:50:07,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean that's a bit more extreme than flipping.

1028
00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:11,813
Speaker 2: To flipped someone off in Los Angeles and the person

1029
00:50:11,813 --> 00:50:13,933
Speaker 2: turned up and pulled a gun on him, and he's

1030
00:50:13,933 --> 00:50:16,252
Speaker 2: moved back to New Zealand and since then he's never

1031
00:50:16,293 --> 00:50:21,933
Speaker 2: flipped anyone off ever. Again, cheaper studio, wasn't wasn't packing Talma?

1032
00:50:22,013 --> 00:50:22,733
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

1033
00:50:23,853 --> 00:50:24,053
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1034
00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:24,453
Speaker 9: Good things?

1035
00:50:24,453 --> 00:50:28,213
Speaker 21: Fuller's Yeah, I think I may you want to speak

1036
00:50:28,213 --> 00:50:31,813
Speaker 21: about Liam Lawson, but I think every competitive environment is

1037
00:50:32,093 --> 00:50:37,493
Speaker 21: very different. Obviously, you've got a mixture of rules, laws,

1038
00:50:38,333 --> 00:50:43,333
Speaker 21: social mores about what's successible and not acceptable, and obviously

1039
00:50:43,373 --> 00:50:46,853
Speaker 21: it depends on whether you're working as part of a

1040
00:50:46,933 --> 00:50:50,573
Speaker 21: team or whether you're a set of different individual competing

1041
00:50:50,613 --> 00:50:54,853
Speaker 21: for a goal. But yeah, I think that all determines

1042
00:50:54,893 --> 00:50:58,373
Speaker 21: about what's suitable in which situation. But when it comes

1043
00:50:58,413 --> 00:51:02,053
Speaker 21: to Liam Lawson, yeah, look, I don't think you did

1044
00:51:02,653 --> 00:51:06,213
Speaker 21: anything wrong. It probably shouldn't have flipped finger, But I

1045
00:51:06,253 --> 00:51:10,813
Speaker 21: think to add a bit context for the situation, he

1046
00:51:10,893 --> 00:51:12,933
Speaker 21: already had a whole bunch of people out there wanting

1047
00:51:12,973 --> 00:51:17,732
Speaker 21: him to fail. Daniel Riccardo very large fan base, very

1048
00:51:17,733 --> 00:51:18,613
Speaker 21: feral fan.

1049
00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:21,093
Speaker 2: Base, and they were in Mexico any time.

1050
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:25,973
Speaker 21: Yeah. Yeah, so he's not so den Ricardo being the

1051
00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:30,253
Speaker 21: Australian but Chico bred as a Mexican. He's obviously competing

1052
00:51:30,293 --> 00:51:33,973
Speaker 21: for his seat at Red Bull, so obviously a whole

1053
00:51:33,973 --> 00:51:38,573
Speaker 21: lot of that Latin speaking audience weren't that keen on

1054
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:42,333
Speaker 21: him anyway. But I think for Liam, I think the

1055
00:51:42,413 --> 00:51:46,252
Speaker 21: main thing he's probably learned is from our last guy

1056
00:51:46,293 --> 00:51:49,933
Speaker 21: they had to go Formula one, Brendan Hartley. Brendan came

1057
00:51:50,013 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 21: in really good driver, he had his chance. He finally

1058
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:56,773
Speaker 21: got a car that was going to be competitive with

1059
00:51:56,933 --> 00:52:00,652
Speaker 21: his direct rival Pierre Gasley. I think it was at

1060
00:52:00,653 --> 00:52:05,573
Speaker 21: the time, and Red Bull Brendan had the fast car

1061
00:52:06,013 --> 00:52:11,293
Speaker 21: red Bull rang and said than on the conference to Ghastlie,

1062
00:52:11,333 --> 00:52:14,853
Speaker 21: he's got the faster car, let him pass. Gasly directly

1063
00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:19,973
Speaker 21: refuse that order to let heart be pass. Hartley never

1064
00:52:20,013 --> 00:52:22,013
Speaker 21: got passed. He didn't finish up on the points, and

1065
00:52:22,053 --> 00:52:23,813
Speaker 21: I think that was either his last or sicking to

1066
00:52:23,853 --> 00:52:27,772
Speaker 21: last drive. Even though Gazzly was doing the wrong thing,

1067
00:52:29,093 --> 00:52:32,573
Speaker 21: he ultimately showed he was the driver with the more mongrels.

1068
00:52:32,613 --> 00:52:34,613
Speaker 21: And that's why that's why it's still driving in Formula

1069
00:52:34,653 --> 00:52:35,133
Speaker 21: one today.

1070
00:52:35,373 --> 00:52:38,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, a way you could show mongrel

1071
00:52:38,373 --> 00:52:42,573
Speaker 2: as if someone steps on you and is unfair to you,

1072
00:52:42,973 --> 00:52:46,533
Speaker 2: portrays you that they know there will be consequences.

1073
00:52:46,773 --> 00:52:49,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's standing up for yourself, right, Tomma. That's

1074
00:52:49,973 --> 00:52:52,053
Speaker 3: that's different, whether that's in the sporting world or life

1075
00:52:52,093 --> 00:52:52,573
Speaker 3: in general.

1076
00:52:54,013 --> 00:52:57,893
Speaker 21: Yeah, so what's Formula one? Like Checko Pareza has come

1077
00:52:57,893 --> 00:53:00,093
Speaker 21: out and a lot of fans of Ricardo and Pereza

1078
00:53:00,173 --> 00:53:02,652
Speaker 21: come out saying odd, you know, it's about humbleness, it's

1079
00:53:02,693 --> 00:53:05,693
Speaker 21: about learning your place, it's about respecting these guys that

1080
00:53:05,773 --> 00:53:07,933
Speaker 21: have been there and done that before. That's not what

1081
00:53:08,013 --> 00:53:11,493
Speaker 21: forming about. It's been about results.

1082
00:53:11,693 --> 00:53:14,493
Speaker 2: It's about him keeping his seat, and it's about his chance.

1083
00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:17,692
Speaker 2: And the other thing I'd say about that is, can

1084
00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:20,573
Speaker 2: you imagine the amount of adrenaline that's going through your system?

1085
00:53:20,613 --> 00:53:23,093
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very easy for me to not flip

1086
00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:25,933
Speaker 2: someone off driving at fifty kilometers an hour to work,

1087
00:53:25,973 --> 00:53:29,772
Speaker 2: although I should be driving at thirty from the speed

1088
00:53:29,813 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 2: limits in Auckland around them at the moment.

1089
00:53:31,373 --> 00:53:32,053
Speaker 3: But safe.

1090
00:53:32,253 --> 00:53:35,493
Speaker 2: But no, I will always drive it fifty. I'm going

1091
00:53:35,573 --> 00:53:37,573
Speaker 2: never drive at thirty. There's the most ridiculous thing that's

1092
00:53:37,573 --> 00:53:40,493
Speaker 2: ever happened that. Don't get me started around.

1093
00:53:40,493 --> 00:53:41,133
Speaker 3: That's for another day.

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00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:45,693
Speaker 2: I'll show Mongrel there just no but to finish my

1095
00:53:45,733 --> 00:53:48,333
Speaker 2: point tiler point. The amount of adrenaline that's going through

1096
00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:50,933
Speaker 2: your system when you're driving at those kind of speeds.

1097
00:53:51,053 --> 00:53:52,453
Speaker 2: I mean they say that when you're on a plane.

1098
00:53:52,453 --> 00:53:55,493
Speaker 2: People always ask why on international flights or when you

1099
00:53:55,533 --> 00:53:58,013
Speaker 2: watch a movie you'll cry when you wouldn't normally cry.

1100
00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:01,093
Speaker 2: It's because somewhere in your mind the amigdler, you know,

1101
00:54:01,093 --> 00:54:03,493
Speaker 2: the migdala, the primitive parts of your brain. They know

1102
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:06,013
Speaker 2: that you're traveling eight hundred and fifty kilometers an hour,

1103
00:54:06,213 --> 00:54:10,333
Speaker 2: so you've got a heightened sense, every things heightened. Yeah,

1104
00:54:10,693 --> 00:54:12,652
Speaker 2: even though you may feel like you can't parts of

1105
00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:14,692
Speaker 2: your body, you're going. You're going eight fifty. So you'll

1106
00:54:14,693 --> 00:54:16,773
Speaker 2: cry in a movie when you normally wouldn't, and then

1107
00:54:16,813 --> 00:54:19,172
Speaker 2: you tell someone your land. I just watched the Best Movie.

1108
00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:20,933
Speaker 2: It was very affecting. You watch it on the ground

1109
00:54:20,973 --> 00:54:23,652
Speaker 2: and you couch and it's really, really, really lame. So

1110
00:54:23,693 --> 00:54:27,573
Speaker 2: the amount of adrenaline that Lawson's dealing with at that time,

1111
00:54:28,013 --> 00:54:31,172
Speaker 2: I do. I am not surprised that he flipped someone off. Yeah,

1112
00:54:31,213 --> 00:54:34,773
Speaker 2: because the emotions, and you know, you succeed if you

1113
00:54:34,773 --> 00:54:37,013
Speaker 2: can keep those emotions and check to the point where

1114
00:54:37,013 --> 00:54:38,613
Speaker 2: you can focus on what you're doing. Of course.

1115
00:54:38,773 --> 00:54:40,933
Speaker 3: Yeah. But when I look at the and again, I'm

1116
00:54:40,933 --> 00:54:43,013
Speaker 3: going to bring back to Michael Jordan because I can't

1117
00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:45,413
Speaker 3: agree with his philosophy, even though he was a winner.

1118
00:54:45,453 --> 00:54:48,613
Speaker 3: To me, relationships are the key to life that nobody

1119
00:54:48,653 --> 00:54:51,973
Speaker 3: gets anywhere in life without people around them. There's no

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00:54:52,093 --> 00:54:53,693
Speaker 3: such thing to me as a self made man. It

1121
00:54:53,773 --> 00:54:55,652
Speaker 3: just does not exist. You need people around you to

1122
00:54:55,693 --> 00:54:57,613
Speaker 3: help you, so you have to be a team player,

1123
00:54:57,613 --> 00:54:59,732
Speaker 3: and how you get on with people that help you

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00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:02,933
Speaker 3: is essential. He had players in his team that was

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00:55:03,053 --> 00:55:05,893
Speaker 3: helping him get those championships, win the game, but he

1126
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:07,773
Speaker 3: did not care about those people, and those people despise

1127
00:55:07,813 --> 00:55:08,333
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:10,933
Speaker 3: I just can't understand that philosophy.

1130
00:55:11,013 --> 00:55:14,053
Speaker 2: Well, as the saying goes, if you put one human

1131
00:55:14,133 --> 00:55:17,172
Speaker 2: in the jungle, they'll get eaten really quickly. You put

1132
00:55:17,293 --> 00:55:20,813
Speaker 2: fifteen in there, and they're the apex predator. We are

1133
00:55:20,853 --> 00:55:23,973
Speaker 2: designed to work together, but we do need leaders, and

1134
00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:25,813
Speaker 2: we do need to stick up for ourselves in the

1135
00:55:25,813 --> 00:55:28,893
Speaker 2: social group, and we need to do what's best to

1136
00:55:28,973 --> 00:55:31,373
Speaker 2: it for us at the same time as doing what's

1137
00:55:31,413 --> 00:55:33,213
Speaker 2: best for us around and that takes a bit of mongrel.

1138
00:55:33,493 --> 00:55:35,213
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1139
00:55:35,253 --> 00:55:37,453
Speaker 3: call love to hear from you. It is twenty four past.

1140
00:55:37,253 --> 00:55:45,212
Speaker 1: Two Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1141
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1142
00:55:47,613 --> 00:55:50,293
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. We're talking about having a little

1143
00:55:50,293 --> 00:55:52,813
Speaker 3: bit of mongrel. Are we still going to use that word? Yeah,

1144
00:55:52,813 --> 00:55:54,853
Speaker 3: we'll use that word, a little bit of mongrel to

1145
00:55:54,893 --> 00:55:56,453
Speaker 3: get ahead in life. This is on the back of

1146
00:55:56,493 --> 00:55:59,013
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson, and I think Liam is a bit more

1147
00:55:59,093 --> 00:56:01,253
Speaker 3: nuanced than this, but he's taken the gloves off a

1148
00:56:01,293 --> 00:56:03,653
Speaker 3: little bit. He has been the ultimate nice guy and

1149
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:06,213
Speaker 3: wanted to present that image, and I think genuinely he is,

1150
00:56:06,573 --> 00:56:08,293
Speaker 3: and we're very proud of him. But he got a

1151
00:56:08,453 --> 00:56:10,733
Speaker 3: lot of stick for flicking the bird at Sugio Perez.

1152
00:56:10,773 --> 00:56:12,853
Speaker 3: He's now come out and said he's not there to

1153
00:56:12,853 --> 00:56:13,973
Speaker 3: make friends exactly.

1154
00:56:14,173 --> 00:56:15,493
Speaker 2: He's got to do what he's got to do to

1155
00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:18,252
Speaker 2: keep his seat and one of the most competitive things

1156
00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:20,653
Speaker 2: you can possibly do in the world. It's got a

1157
00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:22,692
Speaker 2: great text here on nine two ninety two. Gents, one

1158
00:56:22,693 --> 00:56:25,573
Speaker 2: word mana. Mana is word you're looking for. Maybe it's

1159
00:56:25,573 --> 00:56:29,133
Speaker 2: not mangre or it's marna, you know, prestige, authority, control, power,

1160
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:31,693
Speaker 2: influenced status, charisma.

1161
00:56:31,933 --> 00:56:34,212
Speaker 3: That is a good word for it. Actually, that encapitulates

1162
00:56:34,253 --> 00:56:34,773
Speaker 3: a lot of.

1163
00:56:34,773 --> 00:56:37,733
Speaker 2: Although would you say flipping someone off at three hundred

1164
00:56:38,733 --> 00:56:44,013
Speaker 2: and fifty kilometers an hour is mana? I think just yeah.

1165
00:56:44,053 --> 00:56:46,172
Speaker 3: But mana is quite confidence, isn't it.

1166
00:56:46,293 --> 00:56:48,013
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because you can be a really really strong and

1167
00:56:48,053 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 2: powerful leader or you know, a troop or soldier on

1168
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:57,933
Speaker 2: a cause and you're not necessarily being aggressive in the

1169
00:56:57,973 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 2: same way, but you might just lay down the perfect

1170
00:57:01,053 --> 00:57:05,613
Speaker 2: you know, Maximus Discimus Meridius speech. Yeah, you know, you

1171
00:57:05,693 --> 00:57:08,093
Speaker 2: might just lay down an incredible speech that has such

1172
00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:12,173
Speaker 2: great mana that everyone follows behind you. Let's and you

1173
00:57:12,213 --> 00:57:14,893
Speaker 2: get there and then and then you make that sale.

1174
00:57:15,093 --> 00:57:15,293
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1175
00:57:15,293 --> 00:57:21,973
Speaker 3: A couple of ideas for replacement among all chutzpa, chutzpa, Gusto.

1176
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:26,133
Speaker 3: I like Gusto, but a gusto, mate, Yeah, I haven't.

1177
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:28,533
Speaker 2: I have not heard the word gusto for a very

1178
00:57:28,573 --> 00:57:30,453
Speaker 2: long time. I think that's the word my dad used

1179
00:57:30,453 --> 00:57:33,213
Speaker 2: to I think my dad used toy Gusto and struth

1180
00:57:33,253 --> 00:57:33,533
Speaker 2: a lot.

1181
00:57:35,053 --> 00:57:37,293
Speaker 3: I want to bring back stru Yeah, bring that back.

1182
00:57:37,293 --> 00:57:42,733
Speaker 28: Get a Neil, Hey, guys, Yeah, A couple more words

1183
00:57:42,733 --> 00:57:44,453
Speaker 28: I guess come to mind.

1184
00:57:44,453 --> 00:57:44,693
Speaker 20: For me.

1185
00:57:44,773 --> 00:57:49,573
Speaker 28: It's self confidence and arrogant. I've got three names, but

1186
00:57:49,613 --> 00:57:53,173
Speaker 28: you've already spoken about Michael Jordan's the other two that

1187
00:57:53,333 --> 00:57:57,013
Speaker 28: comes to mind for me Runnie O. Sullivan and Kelly Slater. Ye,

1188
00:57:58,813 --> 00:58:01,253
Speaker 28: with the arrogance and the self confidence. And he'd go

1189
00:58:01,333 --> 00:58:03,973
Speaker 28: out there and just he'd wipe the table with these

1190
00:58:03,973 --> 00:58:05,853
Speaker 28: players and he'd speak about it, says, no, they's nothing

1191
00:58:05,893 --> 00:58:06,093
Speaker 28: to me.

1192
00:58:07,533 --> 00:58:10,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very true. But he got results. I mean well,

1193
00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:13,573
Speaker 3: we know who he is and he was very successful.

1194
00:58:14,333 --> 00:58:17,493
Speaker 28: Yeah, of course, Kelly Slater totally focused, you know, seven

1195
00:58:17,493 --> 00:58:20,533
Speaker 28: times world champion. And in interviews with him as well,

1196
00:58:20,573 --> 00:58:24,453
Speaker 28: the same thing came, you know, very self confident, bordering

1197
00:58:24,453 --> 00:58:27,813
Speaker 28: on arrogant because that was focus on winning those world championships.

1198
00:58:28,053 --> 00:58:31,693
Speaker 2: What was Ronnie O'Sullivan the snooker player?

1199
00:58:31,773 --> 00:58:35,293
Speaker 28: Yeah, mate, yeah, hey, can.

1200
00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:37,653
Speaker 2: You remember something because this has been eating me up inside.

1201
00:58:37,693 --> 00:58:39,093
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I used to watch a

1202
00:58:39,133 --> 00:58:40,893
Speaker 2: snooker player because the snooky used to be on the

1203
00:58:40,893 --> 00:58:43,053
Speaker 2: TV and my dad loved it. He played with a snooker.

1204
00:58:43,213 --> 00:58:45,413
Speaker 2: But who was the guy that had the massive glasses

1205
00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:48,773
Speaker 2: that were they were like upside upside down glasses and

1206
00:58:48,813 --> 00:58:50,333
Speaker 2: they sort of took up his whole face.

1207
00:58:51,093 --> 00:58:53,493
Speaker 28: Yeah, that was the irishman who'd be And of course

1208
00:58:53,533 --> 00:58:54,613
Speaker 28: the name is going to escape.

1209
00:58:55,693 --> 00:58:56,493
Speaker 2: It's been escaping me.

1210
00:58:57,253 --> 00:58:57,933
Speaker 3: Dennis Taylor.

1211
00:58:58,853 --> 00:59:01,773
Speaker 2: Dennis Taylor, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1212
00:59:01,813 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 13: But on the most of the.

1213
00:59:04,133 --> 00:59:06,653
Speaker 3: Kelly Slater is a good one because Kelly to a

1214
00:59:06,653 --> 00:59:08,693
Speaker 3: lot of people. If you see Kelly's later and a

1215
00:59:08,693 --> 00:59:10,213
Speaker 3: lot of people would know what he looks like, even

1216
00:59:10,213 --> 00:59:12,013
Speaker 3: if they don't know he's a world class surfer. Probably

1217
00:59:12,053 --> 00:59:14,733
Speaker 3: the best surfer of all time. But he would come

1218
00:59:14,773 --> 00:59:17,373
Speaker 3: across and interviews as a very laid back guy, very

1219
00:59:17,453 --> 00:59:20,133
Speaker 3: nice guy, friendly to those around him, but hid that

1220
00:59:20,893 --> 00:59:24,453
Speaker 3: ultra competitiveness. No, we're not hit it. Clearly everyone could

1221
00:59:24,453 --> 00:59:27,653
Speaker 3: tell when he got on the water he was uber competitive,

1222
00:59:28,053 --> 00:59:31,653
Speaker 3: but he didn't make that part of his personality when

1223
00:59:31,653 --> 00:59:32,733
Speaker 3: he was doing interviews, did he.

1224
00:59:33,693 --> 00:59:36,613
Speaker 28: No, he's well, you know, the line is beware of

1225
00:59:37,413 --> 00:59:40,493
Speaker 28: wolf and sheep's clothing. So yeah, yeah, I've got a

1226
00:59:40,573 --> 00:59:42,253
Speaker 28: question when he jumped in the water.

1227
00:59:42,933 --> 00:59:45,173
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Neil, I've got a question for you in terms

1228
00:59:45,173 --> 00:59:48,053
Speaker 2: of mongrel. Did did Richard Low have too much mongrel?

1229
00:59:48,693 --> 00:59:49,373
Speaker 2: Former all back?

1230
00:59:51,133 --> 00:59:52,693
Speaker 28: Yeah, he was just a clown.

1231
00:59:55,373 --> 00:59:58,773
Speaker 2: Score a try. The elbow arrives about three minutes after.

1232
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:04,173
Speaker 28: The mists clouded over, and I think Paul will appeart

1233
01:00:04,213 --> 01:00:05,933
Speaker 28: for that. And if you remember that, what happened with

1234
01:00:05,973 --> 01:00:07,773
Speaker 28: Paul was that that.

1235
01:00:08,573 --> 01:00:11,893
Speaker 2: The elbow elbow after the try, like about thirty seconds

1236
01:00:11,933 --> 01:00:15,733
Speaker 2: after the try. Yeah, yeah, so I guess that's the thing, read, mister,

1237
01:00:15,853 --> 01:00:18,453
Speaker 2: is the thing. There's a difference between mongrel and letting

1238
01:00:18,493 --> 01:00:20,933
Speaker 2: red miss take over, because when you let the anger

1239
01:00:21,013 --> 01:00:24,413
Speaker 2: take over, then you make terrible decisions. Yeah, so there

1240
01:00:24,453 --> 01:00:25,333
Speaker 2: is a bit of a difference.

1241
01:00:26,693 --> 01:00:28,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, got on your kneel, but on the you know,

1242
01:00:28,413 --> 01:00:30,573
Speaker 3: on the confidence thing, and when you're someone like Liam

1243
01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:33,893
Speaker 3: or you're you're someone who's running a very successful business,

1244
01:00:34,533 --> 01:00:36,333
Speaker 3: there comes a point where you've got to back yourself

1245
01:00:36,333 --> 01:00:38,013
Speaker 3: and a lot of people would call that arrogance, but

1246
01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:40,533
Speaker 3: you you know, you come to the point and everyone

1247
01:00:40,533 --> 01:00:42,413
Speaker 3: who's successful in business, I think at one point in

1248
01:00:42,413 --> 01:00:43,173
Speaker 3: time would have done that.

1249
01:00:43,213 --> 01:00:45,413
Speaker 2: They said what Liam Lawson said, Well, we're not here

1250
01:00:45,453 --> 01:00:47,493
Speaker 2: to make friends. We're here to get the job done.

1251
01:00:47,573 --> 01:00:49,973
Speaker 3: And go further than that. I don't care what you say.

1252
01:00:50,093 --> 01:00:51,893
Speaker 3: We're doing what I want to do. And if you

1253
01:00:51,893 --> 01:00:53,173
Speaker 3: don't like that, there's the door.

1254
01:00:53,333 --> 01:00:55,533
Speaker 2: But what about people like Steve Jobs, for example? I

1255
01:00:55,613 --> 01:00:59,493
Speaker 2: read that fantastic or a biography on his very successful,

1256
01:01:00,013 --> 01:01:03,613
Speaker 2: very flawed individual and let's be honest, a bit of

1257
01:01:03,653 --> 01:01:06,813
Speaker 2: a dick, but very successful.

1258
01:01:06,373 --> 01:01:08,173
Speaker 3: Says the man with three Apple products.

1259
01:01:09,213 --> 01:01:10,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's a very good point.

1260
01:01:10,893 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty, ten eighty. It is twenty nine

1261
01:01:13,733 --> 01:01:14,333
Speaker 3: to three.

1262
01:01:17,213 --> 01:01:20,573
Speaker 18: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1263
01:01:20,613 --> 01:01:23,813
Speaker 18: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Public Service Union's

1264
01:01:23,853 --> 01:01:26,533
Speaker 18: warning of big cuts looming for the Office of Mardi

1265
01:01:26,613 --> 01:01:30,973
Speaker 18: Crown Relations. Forty percent of staff at Arafeti are set

1266
01:01:31,013 --> 01:01:34,293
Speaker 18: to lose their jobs, with forty four rolls being merged

1267
01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:38,773
Speaker 18: into Tipunair Corkerre and forty two being cut altogether. According

1268
01:01:38,773 --> 01:01:42,573
Speaker 18: to the PSA, two people are in hospital, one with

1269
01:01:42,693 --> 01:01:46,173
Speaker 18: critical injuries after an alleged assault with a weapon in

1270
01:01:46,253 --> 01:01:50,533
Speaker 18: Auckland's Puppetoy Toy. A further three million dollars has been

1271
01:01:50,573 --> 01:01:53,693
Speaker 18: spent on dozens of public homes in the Ruta Duur,

1272
01:01:54,013 --> 01:01:56,973
Speaker 18: which may not be built. The government is ordered kaying

1273
01:01:57,213 --> 01:02:01,253
Speaker 18: order holt three hundred and seventy one projects nationwide, with

1274
01:02:01,333 --> 01:02:05,733
Speaker 18: three hundred millions spent on them so far. Philip Pulkinghorn

1275
01:02:05,733 --> 01:02:08,213
Speaker 18: has left the High Court in Auckland again, this time

1276
01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:11,653
Speaker 18: the conviction. The retired eye surgeon's been sentenced to one

1277
01:02:11,733 --> 01:02:16,373
Speaker 18: hundred and fifty hours community work after admitting a meth charge.

1278
01:02:16,413 --> 01:02:19,773
Speaker 18: A fire on Auckland's Mount Wellington domain is now out.

1279
01:02:20,013 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 18: Fire Cruise responded shortly after midday. Why Bowden Barrett is

1280
01:02:24,613 --> 01:02:26,973
Speaker 18: starting for the All Blacks and what it means for

1281
01:02:27,053 --> 01:02:30,573
Speaker 18: Damien Mackenzie read Greg or Paul's full column at inzand

1282
01:02:30,613 --> 01:02:33,533
Speaker 18: Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1283
01:02:33,533 --> 01:02:35,693
Speaker 3: Thank you, ray Lean. It is twenty five to three.

1284
01:02:35,773 --> 01:02:37,893
Speaker 2: We're talking about mongrels. Somehow we also ended up talking

1285
01:02:37,893 --> 01:02:41,293
Speaker 2: about Dennis Taylor, the North Northern Irish professional snooker player

1286
01:02:41,573 --> 01:02:44,373
Speaker 2: who won the World Snooker Champion at nineteen eighty five.

1287
01:02:44,373 --> 01:02:46,693
Speaker 2: People that remember him, I remember him from TV when

1288
01:02:46,693 --> 01:02:49,133
Speaker 2: I was a kid, but massive glasses that went halfway

1289
01:02:49,173 --> 01:02:53,293
Speaker 2: up as forehead. This text of nine two ninety two said, Hi, guys,

1290
01:02:53,333 --> 01:02:56,573
Speaker 2: I once played Dennis Taylor and we went for dinner. Afterwards.

1291
01:02:56,573 --> 01:02:58,653
Speaker 2: I played a few shots in his glasses. The guy

1292
01:02:58,813 --> 01:03:00,373
Speaker 2: was seriously shortsighted.

1293
01:03:01,493 --> 01:03:04,773
Speaker 3: That's why I love talkbaut fantastic Luke. How are you

1294
01:03:06,773 --> 01:03:10,253
Speaker 3: get a Luke? I might have lost loc Wali come.

1295
01:03:10,093 --> 01:03:12,093
Speaker 2: Back and looked a bit more mongrel on the phone.

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01:03:12,173 --> 01:03:14,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you'll come back to Luke get a Johnny.

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01:03:15,293 --> 01:03:21,013
Speaker 26: Oh yes, I'm quite interested in this because I go

1298
01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:25,533
Speaker 26: to quite a few meetings with that agency ording a Tamadiki,

1299
01:03:26,413 --> 01:03:29,213
Speaker 26: and quite often I have to bring up the mongrels

1300
01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:33,213
Speaker 26: to hold fast and stand up for my rights. It's

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01:03:33,253 --> 01:03:35,653
Speaker 26: to do with rhetoric that people run a narrative, and

1302
01:03:36,013 --> 01:03:41,013
Speaker 26: sometimes people get stuck on continuing narratives to win their cases.

1303
01:03:41,813 --> 01:03:44,293
Speaker 26: So it's important to be able to hold grounds and

1304
01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:48,733
Speaker 26: hold fast without actually giving your power away or flipping

1305
01:03:48,773 --> 01:03:51,573
Speaker 26: the bird or throwing the chain across the room, which

1306
01:03:51,653 --> 01:03:55,773
Speaker 26: is unfortunately what they're expecting and hoping often so that

1307
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:58,373
Speaker 26: they can just have a gotcha moment and say, hey,

1308
01:03:58,853 --> 01:04:02,053
Speaker 26: you know, see that guy is a problem.

1309
01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:05,893
Speaker 29: So buying into narratives and dynamics is what often leads

1310
01:04:05,893 --> 01:04:08,333
Speaker 29: to these these issues. Whether you're in a sports team,

1311
01:04:08,733 --> 01:04:13,293
Speaker 29: you're in social work, or whether you're John McEnroe in

1312
01:04:13,373 --> 01:04:15,333
Speaker 29: the crowds are giving you the finger.

1313
01:04:17,693 --> 01:04:21,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because when anger takes over from mongrel, then

1314
01:04:21,693 --> 01:04:24,573
Speaker 2: that's when problems. You don't make great decisions when you're angry.

1315
01:04:24,773 --> 01:04:27,373
Speaker 2: Just to punish you with some more philosophy, as Marcus

1316
01:04:27,373 --> 01:04:30,813
Speaker 2: Aurelia said in Meditations, how much more damaged anger does

1317
01:04:30,853 --> 01:04:34,453
Speaker 2: than the things that cause it. So when Mongrel goes

1318
01:04:34,493 --> 01:04:36,973
Speaker 2: over to anger and the red mist comes down, that's

1319
01:04:36,973 --> 01:04:38,893
Speaker 2: when you make bad decisions and things get worse.

1320
01:04:38,933 --> 01:04:41,893
Speaker 3: Well, what about that that very great movie Dodgeball Patches

1321
01:04:41,933 --> 01:04:42,733
Speaker 3: o'hula han.

1322
01:04:43,293 --> 01:04:45,973
Speaker 2: The final gat you gotta get angry.

1323
01:04:46,173 --> 01:04:48,013
Speaker 3: And they came through. But no, it's a few point

1324
01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:50,653
Speaker 3: you made, Johnny, that there's a difference there between seeing

1325
01:04:50,653 --> 01:04:53,933
Speaker 3: that red mist and having that focus and competitive nature

1326
01:04:54,333 --> 01:04:56,733
Speaker 3: and zeroing in. I mean, your brain almost becomes a

1327
01:04:56,733 --> 01:04:59,773
Speaker 3: calculator for someone like Liam Lawson, right, is that he's

1328
01:04:59,773 --> 01:05:01,853
Speaker 3: not angry. He is super focused.

1329
01:05:01,973 --> 01:05:03,333
Speaker 2: He was angry when he'd foot the bird though, I

1330
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:04,093
Speaker 2: would say.

1331
01:05:04,893 --> 01:05:07,733
Speaker 29: Yeah, and we've also got our DNA to answer to

1332
01:05:07,813 --> 01:05:12,733
Speaker 29: as well, because our parents' behavior and idiosyncrasies also passed

1333
01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:13,333
Speaker 29: on to us.

1334
01:05:14,413 --> 01:05:15,933
Speaker 12: It's it's it's just.

1335
01:05:15,853 --> 01:05:18,253
Speaker 29: A fact the life that we have to compensate for

1336
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:21,693
Speaker 29: our own our own problems and try and make up for.

1337
01:05:22,733 --> 01:05:23,333
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1338
01:05:23,573 --> 01:05:24,813
Speaker 2: Good, cool, Johnny, thanks for that.

1339
01:05:24,893 --> 01:05:27,133
Speaker 3: Yep, nice one. Luke Well, I think we got your

1340
01:05:27,133 --> 01:05:28,013
Speaker 3: back mate.

1341
01:05:28,213 --> 01:05:29,173
Speaker 13: Yeah, can you hear me?

1342
01:05:29,253 --> 01:05:30,813
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1343
01:05:31,053 --> 01:05:34,813
Speaker 13: Yeah, Tyler, Matt, Hey, Matt, thanks so much for bringing

1344
01:05:34,853 --> 01:05:42,093
Speaker 13: in Vestibule over for on Hold Fridays. I'm really appreciative. Yeah,

1345
01:05:42,253 --> 01:05:46,493
Speaker 13: that call, it just said exactly what I was thinking, Like,

1346
01:05:46,973 --> 01:05:49,573
Speaker 13: you've got to be like monge or so to use

1347
01:05:49,573 --> 01:05:51,493
Speaker 13: the term, if you if you're doing it to yourself

1348
01:05:52,093 --> 01:05:54,333
Speaker 13: that's fine, and if you do that enough, you'll set

1349
01:05:54,333 --> 01:05:57,413
Speaker 13: a great example for people to follow you and you

1350
01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,053
Speaker 13: won't let that that red miss come over. So if

1351
01:06:00,053 --> 01:06:02,093
Speaker 13: you if you're hard on yourself, if you've got temperance

1352
01:06:02,533 --> 01:06:06,973
Speaker 13: to train, like Richie mccare, you train hard. He knew

1353
01:06:07,013 --> 01:06:09,733
Speaker 13: the rule so well, but he pushed himself. He was

1354
01:06:09,813 --> 01:06:12,813
Speaker 13: mungrel on himself to get to that stage. Yeah, and

1355
01:06:12,973 --> 01:06:15,373
Speaker 13: we looked up to him, but he didn't go around

1356
01:06:15,373 --> 01:06:19,173
Speaker 13: flipping the bow or dropping the elbow after a tri score.

1357
01:06:19,213 --> 01:06:20,973
Speaker 13: And that's why we go so much respect.

1358
01:06:20,973 --> 01:06:22,973
Speaker 2: I think, well, that's there's a text through on nine

1359
01:06:23,013 --> 01:06:25,853
Speaker 2: two nine two here. So does Lisa Carrington, Dame Lisa Carrington,

1360
01:06:26,053 --> 01:06:28,933
Speaker 2: Great New Zealander. I love her. Does she have mongol

1361
01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:33,173
Speaker 2: or is she just quietly confident? Because when you see

1362
01:06:33,213 --> 01:06:37,933
Speaker 2: her racing that concentration, her head is straighter than everyone else's.

1363
01:06:38,213 --> 01:06:40,933
Speaker 2: Every movement, it's per perfect. You'd never see a sports

1364
01:06:41,013 --> 01:06:44,013
Speaker 2: person with more focus than Dame Lisa Carrington.

1365
01:06:43,653 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 13: In the boat and she's only being a mongol to herself,

1366
01:06:47,573 --> 01:06:50,333
Speaker 13: really pushing that, pushing yourself and that's that's where you

1367
01:06:50,373 --> 01:06:53,133
Speaker 13: get to respect them. And people followed it eventually yeah.

1368
01:06:53,813 --> 01:06:56,573
Speaker 2: Might flip someone off with a paddle though, because you're you.

1369
01:06:56,573 --> 01:06:57,653
Speaker 13: Know that's never gonna work.

1370
01:06:58,293 --> 01:07:00,373
Speaker 3: She would have time to though. I mean, she's winning

1371
01:07:00,373 --> 01:07:02,573
Speaker 3: by that that margin that she could pull up with

1372
01:07:02,613 --> 01:07:04,333
Speaker 3: ten seconds of spear and start flipping the bird. But

1373
01:07:04,373 --> 01:07:05,413
Speaker 3: she's not that sort of person.

1374
01:07:06,213 --> 01:07:08,813
Speaker 13: She's got enough time to stand up in her break

1375
01:07:08,813 --> 01:07:12,213
Speaker 13: a pell and haven't start doings.

1376
01:07:11,573 --> 01:07:13,333
Speaker 3: Make it come to you and have a ginger biscuit.

1377
01:07:13,413 --> 01:07:16,533
Speaker 3: I mean, she's that good. Luke, you're a good man.

1378
01:07:16,693 --> 01:07:19,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Oh e one hundred and eighty

1379
01:07:19,133 --> 01:07:22,213
Speaker 3: ten eighty quick texts akaday, Guys, I'm listening to you

1380
01:07:22,813 --> 01:07:25,693
Speaker 3: on iHeart so sorry if I'm repeating, but I think

1381
01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:28,533
Speaker 3: when it comes to being a winner, an elite athlete

1382
01:07:28,733 --> 01:07:32,173
Speaker 3: or a successful businessman, you need that mongrel in you,

1383
01:07:32,293 --> 01:07:35,173
Speaker 3: the mental ability to fight through all the ball that

1384
01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:37,973
Speaker 3: goes with the negative. Liam has held himself together so

1385
01:07:38,133 --> 01:07:40,933
Speaker 3: well in all these years leading up to this moment,

1386
01:07:41,133 --> 01:07:44,173
Speaker 3: leaving home at an early age to face the big leagues.

1387
01:07:44,253 --> 01:07:47,053
Speaker 3: He has got it. Yeah good text.

1388
01:07:47,453 --> 01:07:51,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think we're really focusing on the

1389
01:07:51,093 --> 01:07:54,933
Speaker 2: other part of, you know, of his statement, which was

1390
01:07:54,973 --> 01:07:56,373
Speaker 2: that I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to

1391
01:07:56,413 --> 01:07:59,573
Speaker 2: do a job, because I think going forward he'll probably

1392
01:07:59,893 --> 01:08:02,533
Speaker 2: flip less people off because that was probably letting his

1393
01:08:02,573 --> 01:08:04,933
Speaker 2: emotions take over. As cool as I thought it was

1394
01:08:04,933 --> 01:08:07,053
Speaker 2: because it was three hundred and fifty kilometers an hour. Yeah,

1395
01:08:07,093 --> 01:08:08,573
Speaker 2: I thought that was a cool thing to do. Though

1396
01:08:08,653 --> 01:08:11,853
Speaker 2: I'm against road rage out on the streets, but I

1397
01:08:11,853 --> 01:08:13,053
Speaker 2: thought it was a cool thing to do. But in

1398
01:08:13,133 --> 01:08:19,053
Speaker 2: terms of mongrel, that's not really mongrel unless you're using

1399
01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:21,893
Speaker 2: it to get inside someone's head. That's probably letting the

1400
01:08:21,893 --> 01:08:24,652
Speaker 2: red mistake over a little bit. Yeah, and going forward,

1401
01:08:24,692 --> 01:08:27,253
Speaker 2: I imagine he would be saying to himself, no, keep

1402
01:08:27,293 --> 01:08:29,932
Speaker 2: concentrating on just what I've got to do. And that's

1403
01:08:29,933 --> 01:08:31,532
Speaker 2: really what he means about that, I'm not here to

1404
01:08:31,532 --> 01:08:32,012
Speaker 2: make friends.

1405
01:08:32,013 --> 01:08:34,333
Speaker 3: Well, the flip side of that would be Nick Kurrios, Right,

1406
01:08:34,772 --> 01:08:38,652
Speaker 3: that's good tennis player arguably. I mean that the one

1407
01:08:38,732 --> 01:08:41,532
Speaker 3: with the most potential that hasn't won anythink of none.

1408
01:08:41,412 --> 01:08:42,053
Speaker 2: Arguably or not.

1409
01:08:42,652 --> 01:08:42,892
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1410
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:45,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is a bad boy that hasn't really

1411
01:08:45,412 --> 01:08:47,732
Speaker 3: achieved much in the world of you know, not at

1412
01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:50,812
Speaker 3: the elite level. Let them we red mis get to him. Oh,

1413
01:08:50,812 --> 01:08:52,972
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1414
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:55,452
Speaker 2: This is a great text. Michael Jones, the nicest guy

1415
01:08:55,492 --> 01:08:56,973
Speaker 2: off the field, a man of faith who gave to

1416
01:08:57,013 --> 01:09:00,333
Speaker 2: others on the field through his tackling. Yeah, the best

1417
01:09:00,532 --> 01:09:03,333
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Ice Man, A lot of mone are there?

1418
01:09:03,372 --> 01:09:06,333
Speaker 3: Oh here YEA nine two ninety two is the text number.

1419
01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:07,772
Speaker 3: It is eighteen minutes three.

1420
01:09:09,452 --> 01:09:13,133
Speaker 1: Matt Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on Matt

1421
01:09:14,013 --> 01:09:16,052
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons us talk.

1422
01:09:15,893 --> 01:09:19,412
Speaker 3: Said, be very good afternoon. It is sixteen minutes to three.

1423
01:09:19,812 --> 01:09:22,892
Speaker 2: We're talking about mongrel. We're talking about mongrel and sport

1424
01:09:22,933 --> 01:09:24,932
Speaker 2: and in the workplace until you need it. We've got

1425
01:09:24,933 --> 01:09:27,253
Speaker 2: a text on nineteen nineteen that says you are conflating

1426
01:09:27,333 --> 01:09:31,892
Speaker 2: good character with arrogance, and maybe we are because mongrel,

1427
01:09:32,013 --> 01:09:36,692
Speaker 2: if it's random and it's churlish or it's vengeful, is

1428
01:09:36,812 --> 01:09:41,852
Speaker 2: not really what we're talking about. It's about focus, man.

1429
01:09:41,893 --> 01:09:44,933
Speaker 2: It's probably a pretty good word for it. And I

1430
01:09:44,933 --> 01:09:49,053
Speaker 2: would say that Liam Lawson was Yeah, as I was

1431
01:09:49,053 --> 01:09:50,932
Speaker 2: saying before, he was he wasn't living up to what

1432
01:09:50,933 --> 01:09:53,692
Speaker 2: he'd want to be with the flipping people off. As

1433
01:09:53,772 --> 01:09:56,532
Speaker 2: much as I thought it was cool, you know, yeah.

1434
01:09:56,213 --> 01:09:56,532
Speaker 9: So.

1435
01:09:59,333 --> 01:10:05,333
Speaker 2: Is a purpose and resolve and dedication and you know,

1436
01:10:05,372 --> 01:10:08,973
Speaker 2: sticking up for yourself and the people around you, you know,

1437
01:10:09,532 --> 01:10:12,133
Speaker 2: holding your holding your corner, that kind of thing.

1438
01:10:12,253 --> 01:10:12,452
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1439
01:10:12,933 --> 01:10:15,732
Speaker 3: But the whether you call it arrogance or you call it,

1440
01:10:15,812 --> 01:10:19,692
Speaker 3: you know, a Macavelian streak, none of us think that

1441
01:10:19,692 --> 01:10:22,492
Speaker 3: that's good character. That's that's the complete opposite of good character.

1442
01:10:22,853 --> 01:10:28,213
Speaker 3: But that if people are so inclined to turn on

1443
01:10:28,293 --> 01:10:30,412
Speaker 3: people close to them, to be a bit Macaveelian, a

1444
01:10:30,412 --> 01:10:33,053
Speaker 3: bit manipulative, they can get ahead, but it's not a

1445
01:10:33,053 --> 01:10:33,772
Speaker 3: good way to get.

1446
01:10:33,732 --> 01:10:35,932
Speaker 2: I've seen that in companies that have worked for where

1447
01:10:35,973 --> 01:10:39,452
Speaker 2: people have been saying things to your face and being successful,

1448
01:10:40,093 --> 01:10:45,012
Speaker 2: but operating games in the background, running strategies working against you,

1449
01:10:45,053 --> 01:10:48,612
Speaker 2: not towards the same cause. Because you can get ahead

1450
01:10:48,652 --> 01:10:50,013
Speaker 2: and you can get in front of someone as long

1451
01:10:50,013 --> 01:10:51,972
Speaker 2: as you're better than them and you work harder than

1452
01:10:52,013 --> 01:10:54,892
Speaker 2: them and you're straight up, that's great. But we don't

1453
01:10:54,973 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 2: like this the caniver. No, we don't like the sneak.

1454
01:10:58,333 --> 01:11:00,133
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the name of the lion

1455
01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:06,452
Speaker 2: and the lion king Scar, Scar do the old Scar Chris.

1456
01:11:06,093 --> 01:11:06,892
Speaker 3: How are you mates?

1457
01:11:09,372 --> 01:11:11,812
Speaker 5: I was just thinking about sportsmans that could be like that.

1458
01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:17,652
Speaker 5: And my two ones I thought of was that would

1459
01:11:19,532 --> 01:11:27,093
Speaker 5: the lethal on that would be Michael Schumacher yep. And

1460
01:11:27,253 --> 01:11:28,572
Speaker 5: Stephen Henry.

1461
01:11:29,253 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well Schumacher, I mean, I might have been

1462
01:11:32,372 --> 01:11:35,213
Speaker 3: a little bit young. Clearly, you know when I when

1463
01:11:35,213 --> 01:11:37,372
Speaker 3: he was doing his thing, he was the greatest, if

1464
01:11:37,412 --> 01:11:40,572
Speaker 3: one driver of all time. And people might argue with that,

1465
01:11:40,652 --> 01:11:42,692
Speaker 3: and it's a very sad end to what's happened to

1466
01:11:42,692 --> 01:11:46,452
Speaker 3: Michael Schumacher. But at the time, my you know, looking

1467
01:11:46,452 --> 01:11:48,452
Speaker 3: back and again I was I was, I was young then,

1468
01:11:48,532 --> 01:11:52,933
Speaker 3: but I remember that he was a polite German. That

1469
01:11:53,093 --> 01:11:55,612
Speaker 3: was kind of my my impression of Michael Schumacher. But

1470
01:11:55,692 --> 01:11:59,253
Speaker 3: clearly he had that mangrel in him, and perhaps he

1471
01:11:59,372 --> 01:12:01,532
Speaker 3: is kind of you know, Liam Lawson is perhaps a

1472
01:12:01,572 --> 01:12:04,133
Speaker 3: little bit like Michael Schumacher. Nice guy, but when he's

1473
01:12:04,173 --> 01:12:07,772
Speaker 3: in that car, he changes into go mode.

1474
01:12:08,732 --> 01:12:10,852
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win, I'm going to win.

1475
01:12:11,213 --> 01:12:12,732
Speaker 4: Scuffia yeah.

1476
01:12:12,853 --> 01:12:15,092
Speaker 2: Off the field, I read an interview with Stephen Henry

1477
01:12:15,093 --> 01:12:18,173
Speaker 2: though the snooker players, a snooker player, and he said

1478
01:12:18,173 --> 01:12:20,732
Speaker 2: that people used to get under his skin. People could

1479
01:12:20,772 --> 01:12:22,772
Speaker 2: say stuff to him and they could, they could take

1480
01:12:22,812 --> 01:12:25,732
Speaker 2: him off off off his game a little bit.

1481
01:12:27,732 --> 01:12:32,572
Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, I agree, kind of.

1482
01:12:33,053 --> 01:12:36,693
Speaker 5: He was a litha in his time. He was lethal,

1483
01:12:36,812 --> 01:12:37,572
Speaker 5: the best of the best.

1484
01:12:37,933 --> 01:12:40,652
Speaker 3: Lethal. I love that word lethal when it comes to snoker.

1485
01:12:40,853 --> 01:12:43,093
Speaker 2: Lethal on the snooker table. I mean, that's that's I mean,

1486
01:12:43,133 --> 01:12:45,852
Speaker 2: the margins and snooker are phenomenal. You have to keep

1487
01:12:45,893 --> 01:12:49,852
Speaker 2: your call in that game because we're talking millimeters of

1488
01:12:49,933 --> 01:12:53,412
Speaker 2: millimeters making differences. And yeah, I mean in terms of

1489
01:12:53,933 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 2: levels of school skill and a sport snooker and levels

1490
01:12:57,333 --> 01:13:00,213
Speaker 2: of intelligence required to play that game. Yeah, I mean

1491
01:13:00,253 --> 01:13:02,133
Speaker 2: it's hard to compare any other sport to that.

1492
01:13:02,293 --> 01:13:04,213
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to score myself up on snooker.

1493
01:13:04,333 --> 01:13:09,092
Speaker 30: Jimmy boy, how are you, Matey Maddie Chyler. Some guys

1494
01:13:09,933 --> 01:13:15,092
Speaker 30: look Lisa Carrington, she'll bring it out that mongrel when

1495
01:13:15,133 --> 01:13:19,173
Speaker 30: she's ready, and it's like a lot and wee Liam Law,

1496
01:13:19,333 --> 01:13:21,213
Speaker 30: some lovely kid.

1497
01:13:21,293 --> 01:13:21,532
Speaker 18: Mate.

1498
01:13:21,572 --> 01:13:24,652
Speaker 30: He'll do what things when he need to do it.

1499
01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:28,932
Speaker 30: You know, you've got a mongrel like bloody Keith Murdoch, mate,

1500
01:13:28,973 --> 01:13:34,372
Speaker 30: he was born a mongrel. Hit had Richard Lower Breakfast mate.

1501
01:13:34,173 --> 01:13:36,012
Speaker 7: That guy, remember him?

1502
01:13:36,333 --> 01:13:39,093
Speaker 30: And then you got the likes of Mike Tyson. You know,

1503
01:13:39,572 --> 01:13:42,412
Speaker 30: there's a time and a place to use that kind

1504
01:13:42,492 --> 01:13:46,133
Speaker 30: of and it can be bad, you know. I mean

1505
01:13:46,412 --> 01:13:49,452
Speaker 30: I heard you talk about Jones and he was such

1506
01:13:49,572 --> 01:13:53,253
Speaker 30: the most loveliest rugby guy you could ever meet. Met

1507
01:13:53,333 --> 01:13:57,772
Speaker 30: him once or twice, the most handsome, lovely guy. And

1508
01:13:57,893 --> 01:14:01,012
Speaker 30: yet but I wouldn't melt in his mouth. But when

1509
01:14:01,013 --> 01:14:03,812
Speaker 30: he's there to do a job, you're there to do it,

1510
01:14:04,093 --> 01:14:04,333
Speaker 30: you know.

1511
01:14:04,973 --> 01:14:07,692
Speaker 2: To me talking about Michael Jones, I had a friend

1512
01:14:07,732 --> 01:14:10,492
Speaker 2: that's he was walking down K Road and he saw

1513
01:14:10,492 --> 01:14:12,812
Speaker 2: a fight and he saw someone being beaten up on

1514
01:14:12,893 --> 01:14:16,133
Speaker 2: K Road and then he saw someone running towards the

1515
01:14:16,173 --> 01:14:18,852
Speaker 2: fight to sort it out. And he recognized who it

1516
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:21,652
Speaker 2: was from the way he run where he ran because

1517
01:14:21,652 --> 01:14:23,772
Speaker 2: he'd watched him play so much, And it was Michael Jones.

1518
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:25,933
Speaker 2: Had gotten out of his car and run across the

1519
01:14:26,013 --> 01:14:29,492
Speaker 2: road and put his hands between the two of them

1520
01:14:29,572 --> 01:14:31,412
Speaker 2: and he broke up a fight, and he was I've

1521
01:14:31,452 --> 01:14:34,253
Speaker 2: just seen the most amazing thing. Michael Jones has just

1522
01:14:34,253 --> 01:14:37,052
Speaker 2: come and sorted out a problem. Yeah that had nothing

1523
01:14:37,093 --> 01:14:38,692
Speaker 2: to do with him. That's what a great man he.

1524
01:14:38,692 --> 01:14:42,012
Speaker 3: Was, and the sweetest way possible. But just on Mike Tyson. Jimmy,

1525
01:14:42,013 --> 01:14:43,253
Speaker 3: I mean, I get to.

1526
01:14:43,853 --> 01:14:46,492
Speaker 2: Too much Mongreland and Mike Tyson has I've listened to

1527
01:14:46,532 --> 01:14:48,372
Speaker 2: a lot of interviews with him, and he can't even

1528
01:14:48,772 --> 01:14:51,253
Speaker 2: imagine the guy that he was at that point because

1529
01:14:51,293 --> 01:14:55,013
Speaker 2: he was basically treated like a dog to make him

1530
01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:59,173
Speaker 2: rabbit exactly and turn him into a killing machine. And

1531
01:14:59,213 --> 01:15:01,372
Speaker 2: that obviously, you know, he ended up in prison and

1532
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:03,253
Speaker 2: he had had a lot of problems, and now you

1533
01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:06,053
Speaker 2: know he's preparing for this fight that's coming up, and

1534
01:15:06,093 --> 01:15:08,053
Speaker 2: that Mongrel's coming back a little bit. You see him

1535
01:15:08,053 --> 01:15:10,692
Speaker 2: and press conferences and talking. He's starting to talk like

1536
01:15:10,732 --> 01:15:11,333
Speaker 2: he did before.

1537
01:15:12,572 --> 01:15:14,812
Speaker 3: I feel some pigeons that he calmed down a little bit.

1538
01:15:14,853 --> 01:15:17,812
Speaker 2: We found a lot of weed and some you know,

1539
01:15:17,893 --> 01:15:22,972
Speaker 2: some cactus. But yeah, it's almost like the demons coming

1540
01:15:23,013 --> 01:15:24,532
Speaker 2: back into him a little bit, which is kind of

1541
01:15:25,013 --> 01:15:27,093
Speaker 2: a little bit terrifying to see.

1542
01:15:27,253 --> 01:15:30,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy, thank you very much. Mates. It is nine

1543
01:15:30,372 --> 01:15:32,492
Speaker 3: minutes to three back for sure that you're listening to

1544
01:15:32,532 --> 01:15:33,933
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler.

1545
01:15:35,333 --> 01:15:37,772
Speaker 7: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1546
01:15:37,812 --> 01:15:38,372
Speaker 7: along the way.

1547
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:42,173
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons You for twenty twenty

1548
01:15:42,213 --> 01:15:45,773
Speaker 1: four you talk ZB News TALKSB.

1549
01:15:45,893 --> 01:15:48,732
Speaker 3: We're going to finish with James get James Hi.

1550
01:15:48,893 --> 01:15:53,973
Speaker 6: Yeah, talking about mongol sports back in the days when

1551
01:15:54,013 --> 01:15:57,013
Speaker 6: I'll watching probably when I have my eyes side, I

1552
01:15:57,053 --> 01:16:01,213
Speaker 6: mean VA supercars, it was definitely a lot of amongom occasionally.

1553
01:16:01,372 --> 01:16:04,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely a specific driver you can think of.

1554
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:08,772
Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of incidents where drives got him

1555
01:16:08,772 --> 01:16:13,213
Speaker 6: to punch up with each other. Yeah, And the one

1556
01:16:13,253 --> 01:16:17,372
Speaker 6: I most remember is I think it was Tony Perkins.

1557
01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:21,372
Speaker 6: He got into an incident with one guy one race

1558
01:16:21,973 --> 01:16:24,652
Speaker 6: and they ended up going into the wall. And when

1559
01:16:24,652 --> 01:16:27,413
Speaker 6: the guy came round again and the next time round,

1560
01:16:27,572 --> 01:16:31,852
Speaker 6: Perkins boys his helmet the guys he.

1561
01:16:31,853 --> 01:16:35,972
Speaker 3: Went to us exactly. Yeah, that's that's some Yeah.

1562
01:16:36,133 --> 01:16:39,092
Speaker 2: We've got Darcy Wattergraph here. He knows all about mongrel

1563
01:16:39,133 --> 01:16:41,173
Speaker 2: and sport. But I think as people have been texting through,

1564
01:16:41,213 --> 01:16:43,452
Speaker 2: you might be looking at grit or mana or X factor,

1565
01:16:43,532 --> 01:16:46,612
Speaker 2: determination focus, maybe a better words and mongrel. What do

1566
01:16:46,652 --> 01:16:49,893
Speaker 2: you think in sport, Darcy? Is it is mongrel. The

1567
01:16:49,973 --> 01:16:51,092
Speaker 2: key is a.

1568
01:16:50,853 --> 01:16:53,172
Speaker 3: Fine line between mongrel and out.

1569
01:16:53,013 --> 01:16:55,253
Speaker 19: Mount violence, and no one wants that. If you can

1570
01:16:55,372 --> 01:16:58,852
Speaker 19: stand on that line, if you can tippy toe on

1571
01:16:58,933 --> 01:17:02,213
Speaker 19: that line. So people are very aware that you would

1572
01:17:02,213 --> 01:17:05,173
Speaker 19: almost do anything. If you are aware that you will

1573
01:17:05,173 --> 01:17:08,612
Speaker 19: push the boundaries, They're going to keep very focused on you,

1574
01:17:08,692 --> 01:17:10,852
Speaker 19: aren't they. So I think that's where the mongol comes

1575
01:17:10,853 --> 01:17:14,652
Speaker 19: into it, because if you start degrading yourself by putting

1576
01:17:14,652 --> 01:17:16,933
Speaker 19: a boot in and putting the slipperund doing what they

1577
01:17:17,013 --> 01:17:18,732
Speaker 19: used to do in rugby union back in the day,

1578
01:17:18,732 --> 01:17:20,612
Speaker 19: in rugby league, well it's tim camera, it's not's going

1579
01:17:20,652 --> 01:17:23,093
Speaker 19: to happen. But when we were talking motorsport before, it's

1580
01:17:23,133 --> 01:17:25,652
Speaker 19: the same thing. Liam Lawson came out and I've been

1581
01:17:25,652 --> 01:17:27,412
Speaker 19: talking about this the last couple of days. It's lovely

1582
01:17:27,492 --> 01:17:30,612
Speaker 19: to hear him say this. He's getting all sorts of

1583
01:17:30,612 --> 01:17:32,892
Speaker 19: grief for one hundred and twenty eight million Mexicans don't

1584
01:17:32,893 --> 01:17:36,013
Speaker 19: particularly like. The whole population of.

1585
01:17:35,933 --> 01:17:37,412
Speaker 3: Spain think he's horrible as well.

1586
01:17:37,572 --> 01:17:39,093
Speaker 19: But as he pointed out, because I'm not here to

1587
01:17:39,133 --> 01:17:41,293
Speaker 19: make friends, I don't want to make enemies, but I'm

1588
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:42,132
Speaker 19: not here to make friends.

1589
01:17:42,213 --> 01:17:44,532
Speaker 3: I'm here to win, and that's it.

1590
01:17:44,612 --> 01:17:47,572
Speaker 19: And some of the best riders, the best drivers in history,

1591
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:52,093
Speaker 19: have been swined. They will do anything to win. Michael Schumacher,

1592
01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:55,013
Speaker 19: one of my favorite. Don't read auto bigaries or biographies

1593
01:17:55,013 --> 01:17:59,013
Speaker 19: on Schoemacher. He'll be so depressed. And you had the

1594
01:17:59,173 --> 01:18:03,892
Speaker 19: Senner and Prist fights, Mate, they were absolutely ruthless, because

1595
01:18:04,253 --> 01:18:07,372
Speaker 19: that's what separates the winners from everybody else.

1596
01:18:07,412 --> 01:18:11,892
Speaker 2: We'll speaking of winners, the all Blacks, the the English.

1597
01:18:12,053 --> 01:18:17,973
Speaker 2: Who has more mongrel? That's a good question.

1598
01:18:17,812 --> 01:18:20,812
Speaker 19: Because old Marla's not playing, is he? So there's there's

1599
01:18:20,853 --> 01:18:24,093
Speaker 19: no there's no mongrel bear. I don't think mongrel even

1600
01:18:24,133 --> 01:18:26,213
Speaker 19: comes into it and rugby these days, there there are

1601
01:18:26,253 --> 01:18:29,372
Speaker 19: some process on the all black side that have got

1602
01:18:29,412 --> 01:18:32,852
Speaker 19: the ability maybe to get a bit tuwey for one

1603
01:18:32,893 --> 01:18:35,133
Speaker 19: of a better phrase. But I think when it comes

1604
01:18:35,173 --> 01:18:39,293
Speaker 19: if you equating the mongrel with out and out strength

1605
01:18:39,372 --> 01:18:41,692
Speaker 19: and drive, I think you've got to look at some

1606
01:18:41,772 --> 01:18:43,732
Speaker 19: of the all blacks there and what they can. But

1607
01:18:44,093 --> 01:18:45,772
Speaker 19: I'm an all black fan. I'm not going to turn

1608
01:18:45,812 --> 01:18:46,412
Speaker 19: around and go.

1609
01:18:46,812 --> 01:18:48,692
Speaker 2: John England get in there and get them.

1610
01:18:48,692 --> 01:18:49,532
Speaker 3: But yeah's a.

1611
01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:51,012
Speaker 19: Fine line, Guy's a fine line.

1612
01:18:51,053 --> 01:18:53,692
Speaker 3: And we're broadcasting live on news Talks there b Darce

1613
01:18:53,732 --> 01:18:54,892
Speaker 3: Elliot Smith with the call.

1614
01:18:55,293 --> 01:18:57,452
Speaker 19: Our Voice of Rugby. I remember when he rolled into

1615
01:18:57,492 --> 01:18:59,253
Speaker 19: the studio back in the days.

1616
01:18:58,973 --> 01:18:59,852
Speaker 3: At Radio Sport.

1617
01:18:59,933 --> 01:19:04,572
Speaker 2: Young fella at a gannery. He's got good.

1618
01:19:04,532 --> 01:19:09,333
Speaker 3: Chat, Darcy, Thank you very much mate. Minutes to three

1619
01:19:09,612 --> 01:19:12,852
Speaker 3: after three o'clock it's New Zealander of the Week. Time

1620
01:19:12,933 --> 01:19:13,412
Speaker 3: we'll catch a.

1621
01:19:13,452 --> 01:19:17,693
Speaker 7: Suit talking with you all afternoon.

1622
01:19:17,933 --> 01:19:21,772
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty

1623
01:19:21,812 --> 01:19:23,372
Speaker 1: four News Talk Zaibbi.

1624
01:19:24,293 --> 01:19:28,772
Speaker 3: Happy Friday afternoon, three o'clock, almost at the end of

1625
01:19:28,812 --> 01:19:31,732
Speaker 3: the working week for most. Hopefully that you thank you

1626
01:19:31,812 --> 01:19:33,652
Speaker 3: very much for your company has always met in Tyler

1627
01:19:33,692 --> 01:19:36,692
Speaker 3: with you. Very shortly and about half an hour's time,

1628
01:19:36,692 --> 01:19:38,973
Speaker 3: we are going to do topical tunes and hopefully you

1629
01:19:38,973 --> 01:19:41,892
Speaker 3: know the drill why now where? That's where me and Matt,

1630
01:19:41,933 --> 01:19:43,973
Speaker 3: or Matt and I each pick a song of our

1631
01:19:44,053 --> 01:19:46,692
Speaker 3: choosing related to what we think is the theme of

1632
01:19:46,732 --> 01:19:47,732
Speaker 3: the week news wise.

1633
01:19:48,133 --> 01:19:50,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting thirsty. Hey, can I just say something just

1634
01:19:50,532 --> 01:19:51,333
Speaker 2: a little bit off topic?

1635
01:19:51,412 --> 01:19:51,772
Speaker 9: He geez.

1636
01:19:51,893 --> 01:19:52,533
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1637
01:19:52,692 --> 01:19:54,652
Speaker 2: Is there any moment in your life that makes you

1638
01:19:54,692 --> 01:19:58,053
Speaker 2: more proud than when your kid is going to their

1639
01:19:58,053 --> 01:20:01,412
Speaker 2: school ball in the final year of their school There's

1640
01:20:01,452 --> 01:20:03,652
Speaker 2: something about that moment. I've never been there before. You're

1641
01:20:03,692 --> 01:20:05,412
Speaker 2: a proud dad now, I'm a proud dad. I was

1642
01:20:05,412 --> 01:20:07,173
Speaker 2: just talking to my son. I'm on the phone before

1643
01:20:07,213 --> 01:20:10,692
Speaker 2: about heading off towards all. You know those pictures, the

1644
01:20:10,772 --> 01:20:12,652
Speaker 2: glass of bubbles, you know, stand on.

1645
01:20:12,692 --> 01:20:15,493
Speaker 3: The first event, the verse black tigh event.

1646
01:20:15,333 --> 01:20:19,412
Speaker 2: Me having the bubbles or the pictures are taken with

1647
01:20:19,452 --> 01:20:23,293
Speaker 2: your with your kids all dressed up nicely and behaving

1648
01:20:23,372 --> 01:20:24,052
Speaker 2: like adults.

1649
01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:26,612
Speaker 3: Hopefully has he got a limo limo taking him to

1650
01:20:26,652 --> 01:20:30,333
Speaker 3: the ball? Maybe not that American tacky Yeah.

1651
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:32,772
Speaker 2: Going on the limo? No, no getting dropped off in

1652
01:20:32,812 --> 01:20:33,692
Speaker 2: the imagine.

1653
01:20:33,772 --> 01:20:36,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. Now, very shortly we're going to have

1654
01:20:37,013 --> 01:20:40,492
Speaker 3: a chat about fake grass. It's rising in popularity in

1655
01:20:40,492 --> 01:20:42,372
Speaker 3: New Zealand. And this is off the back of a

1656
01:20:42,452 --> 01:20:46,053
Speaker 3: post I saw on Reddit about fake grass popularity in

1657
01:20:46,053 --> 01:20:49,412
Speaker 3: New Zealand, and I'll read some of it here said

1658
01:20:49,452 --> 01:20:53,172
Speaker 3: why is fake grass so popular here in New Zealand?

1659
01:20:53,492 --> 01:20:57,692
Speaker 3: The stuff leeches micro plastics and looks ugly, last about

1660
01:20:57,692 --> 01:20:59,812
Speaker 3: a year, then starts to fall apart and get moldy.

1661
01:21:00,013 --> 01:21:03,452
Speaker 3: I don't get it. And the comments underneath tend to

1662
01:21:03,492 --> 01:21:06,733
Speaker 3: agree with this poster fake grass. They can't understand the popularity,

1663
01:21:07,013 --> 01:21:10,372
Speaker 3: and I agree, I don't understand why so many people

1664
01:21:10,372 --> 01:21:12,012
Speaker 3: are going for fake grass over real grass.

1665
01:21:12,093 --> 01:21:15,052
Speaker 2: Well, it depends what fake grass you get are getting.

1666
01:21:15,093 --> 01:21:17,812
Speaker 2: If you're getting budget fake grass that you just pull

1667
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:22,293
Speaker 2: off a roll at a at a hardware store, that's

1668
01:21:22,333 --> 01:21:25,612
Speaker 2: one thing. But if you're getting a professional grass installer

1669
01:21:25,692 --> 01:21:29,133
Speaker 2: to come in and install, install it grass and stall that,

1670
01:21:29,372 --> 01:21:31,772
Speaker 2: then you can get fantastic fake grass that you'd be

1671
01:21:31,812 --> 01:21:33,732
Speaker 2: hard pressed to tell the difference. The only way you're

1672
01:21:33,772 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 2: going to tell the difference is that it looks so

1673
01:21:35,372 --> 01:21:41,412
Speaker 2: beautifully green and free from thistles and weas. I don't

1674
01:21:41,452 --> 01:21:44,732
Speaker 2: run fake grass because I find mowing the lawns meditative

1675
01:21:45,293 --> 01:21:49,173
Speaker 2: and it makes me feel powerful to do at.

1676
01:21:49,133 --> 01:21:51,612
Speaker 3: Least feel like a man mowing the grass.

1677
01:21:51,213 --> 01:21:54,133
Speaker 2: To do at least one thing handy that I can

1678
01:21:54,173 --> 01:21:57,133
Speaker 2: easily pull off. But I've been around friends houses with

1679
01:21:57,173 --> 01:22:00,852
Speaker 2: fake grass and it looks phenomenal and lasts and lasts

1680
01:22:00,853 --> 01:22:01,573
Speaker 2: and lasts.

1681
01:22:02,253 --> 01:22:02,492
Speaker 26: Look.

1682
01:22:02,572 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 3: I get that the technology has come a long way

1683
01:22:05,213 --> 01:22:10,372
Speaker 3: in terms of synthetic grass. I still just can't understand

1684
01:22:10,452 --> 01:22:14,292
Speaker 3: the idea of having plastic grass because it is plastic, right, Well.

1685
01:22:14,173 --> 01:22:16,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's there's different types of what it's

1686
01:22:16,452 --> 01:22:18,572
Speaker 2: made out of, you know, let's not get into the

1687
01:22:18,572 --> 01:22:20,093
Speaker 2: weeds of it.

1688
01:22:19,652 --> 01:22:24,652
Speaker 3: Because yeah, but if you care about what your lawn

1689
01:22:24,652 --> 01:22:28,812
Speaker 3: looks like, then surely having real is the ultimate.

1690
01:22:28,973 --> 01:22:29,173
Speaker 31: You know.

1691
01:22:29,253 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 3: That's I see these guys on Facebook and their lawns

1692
01:22:31,853 --> 01:22:36,293
Speaker 3: look immaculate because they spend thousands of dollars making sure

1693
01:22:36,293 --> 01:22:38,852
Speaker 3: that they've got the right nutrients that they mowor the

1694
01:22:38,933 --> 01:22:40,572
Speaker 3: right length that they get the lines in.

1695
01:22:40,532 --> 01:22:43,173
Speaker 2: Therel I decided to make the greatest lawn of all time.

1696
01:22:43,853 --> 01:22:47,612
Speaker 2: I made it a goal, and I dug the lawn up,

1697
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:50,372
Speaker 2: and then I killed everything, and then I dug it

1698
01:22:50,452 --> 01:22:53,452
Speaker 2: up again and killed everything so you don't have anything

1699
01:22:53,492 --> 01:22:56,212
Speaker 2: going through, so even under the ground, there's no possible

1700
01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:58,892
Speaker 2: weeds that come through. And then I laid the grass

1701
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:00,892
Speaker 2: down and I grew the most beautiful lawn to the

1702
01:23:00,893 --> 01:23:03,253
Speaker 2: point where the person that mows our lawns ops have

1703
01:23:03,333 --> 01:23:06,892
Speaker 2: just revealed something. I like the idea that I make

1704
01:23:06,973 --> 01:23:08,612
Speaker 2: my lawns. But at this point, the person that was

1705
01:23:08,973 --> 01:23:11,372
Speaker 2: bowing the lawns said, that is the best goddamn lawn

1706
01:23:11,412 --> 01:23:15,932
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, changes goddamn lawn I've ever seen. But

1707
01:23:16,013 --> 01:23:20,213
Speaker 2: then the weeds started coming through, and within a year,

1708
01:23:20,333 --> 01:23:24,732
Speaker 2: my best lawn in the entire world was horrific. It

1709
01:23:24,772 --> 01:23:27,333
Speaker 2: was a It was one of the most just disappointing

1710
01:23:27,333 --> 01:23:30,133
Speaker 2: things in the world. How that amazing lawn that I'd

1711
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:33,333
Speaker 2: spent so much time plowing over and turning into this

1712
01:23:33,452 --> 01:23:36,612
Speaker 2: amazing thing. You know, I deployed some serious chemicals onto

1713
01:23:36,612 --> 01:23:37,612
Speaker 2: that lawn to kill everything.

1714
01:23:37,812 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 3: Bit you didn't and it looked good because it was real.

1715
01:23:40,412 --> 01:23:43,333
Speaker 2: But then nature will find a way, and then the

1716
01:23:43,372 --> 01:23:47,453
Speaker 2: thistles come through, and the and the weirdest, the weirdest

1717
01:23:47,492 --> 01:23:50,372
Speaker 2: possible kinds of plants you wouldn't even know what they

1718
01:23:50,412 --> 01:23:53,053
Speaker 2: were start coming through. So I can totally see the

1719
01:23:53,093 --> 01:23:55,413
Speaker 2: attraction to a fake lawn.

1720
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:57,732
Speaker 3: Right if you've got a fake lawn, synthetic grass, love

1721
01:23:57,732 --> 01:23:59,532
Speaker 3: to hear from from you, oh eight hundred and eighty

1722
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:02,213
Speaker 3: teen eighty, try and convince me why it is such

1723
01:24:02,213 --> 01:24:04,053
Speaker 3: a good idea, because I don't get it.

1724
01:24:04,692 --> 01:24:09,253
Speaker 2: And just quick question, when is the Matt and Tyler

1725
01:24:09,293 --> 01:24:11,893
Speaker 2: Afternoons New Zealander of the Week being announced?

1726
01:24:11,933 --> 01:24:15,532
Speaker 3: Wow, funny you mentioned that because it is eleven past three.

1727
01:24:16,093 --> 01:24:23,893
Speaker 2: News Talk said, be every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons,

1728
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:26,572
Speaker 2: we name the new Zealander of the week, an honor

1729
01:24:26,612 --> 01:24:28,852
Speaker 2: that we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who

1730
01:24:28,893 --> 01:24:31,572
Speaker 2: has had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful

1731
01:24:31,652 --> 01:24:35,213
Speaker 2: nation over the past seven days. As always, there'll be

1732
01:24:35,213 --> 01:24:38,812
Speaker 2: three nominees, but only one winner. And remember, like the

1733
01:24:38,853 --> 01:24:41,293
Speaker 2: Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealander of

1734
01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:44,692
Speaker 2: the Week isn't always an agent of good. So without

1735
01:24:44,692 --> 01:24:47,733
Speaker 2: further messing around, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons

1736
01:24:47,772 --> 01:24:52,612
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week are Nominee one also receives

1737
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:56,133
Speaker 2: the Pointless Social Media own Goal Award. She compared King

1738
01:24:56,213 --> 01:24:58,892
Speaker 2: Charles Pants to Lady Parts with a social media repost,

1739
01:24:58,973 --> 01:25:00,892
Speaker 2: and all she got was two likes and a whole

1740
01:25:00,893 --> 01:25:05,173
Speaker 2: heap of trouble. Laborist MP Jenny Anderson, delete the apps

1741
01:25:05,213 --> 01:25:07,293
Speaker 2: from your phone. You have been nominated for New Zealander

1742
01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:07,732
Speaker 2: of the Week.

1743
01:25:08,572 --> 01:25:10,133
Speaker 3: How I Jenny pack it up?

1744
01:25:11,093 --> 01:25:14,213
Speaker 2: Nomine two also gets the Irony Award. He mentioned that

1745
01:25:14,293 --> 01:25:16,572
Speaker 2: sometimes people who are down seek comfort in a drink

1746
01:25:16,732 --> 01:25:19,333
Speaker 2: and everyone freaked out and is still putting the boot

1747
01:25:19,372 --> 01:25:21,973
Speaker 2: in on his very own gun boot day forgetting a

1748
01:25:22,093 --> 01:25:25,213
Speaker 2: charity kicking. When you're using kicks for charity, Mike King,

1749
01:25:25,452 --> 01:25:30,532
Speaker 2: you are nominated for New Zealander of the Week, but

1750
01:25:30,572 --> 01:25:32,972
Speaker 2: there can be only one Matton Tyler Afternoons New Zealand

1751
01:25:32,973 --> 01:25:35,852
Speaker 2: of the Week, and the winner also receives the six

1752
01:25:35,973 --> 01:25:39,173
Speaker 2: sixty Don't Forget your Roots Award. You can take the

1753
01:25:39,293 --> 01:25:41,572
Speaker 2: driver out of New Zealand, but you can't take flipping

1754
01:25:41,572 --> 01:25:44,333
Speaker 2: off other drivers out of the Kiwi. For staying true

1755
01:25:44,372 --> 01:25:47,452
Speaker 2: to your hastings and pookakoy roots and rightfully showing a

1756
01:25:47,612 --> 01:25:51,333
Speaker 2: three hundred kilometer an our middle finger to an unreasonable driver,

1757
01:25:52,213 --> 01:25:56,333
Speaker 2: you Lim Lawson, Ah the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New

1758
01:25:56,412 --> 01:26:03,612
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week away, Ali Morrison. Congratulations with liamb

1759
01:26:03,973 --> 01:26:04,892
Speaker 2: you are the best of us.

1760
01:26:05,893 --> 01:26:09,972
Speaker 32: Give him a taste kereweed. God bless and God speed.

1761
01:26:19,213 --> 01:26:20,892
Speaker 32: You're gonna take the key this weekend.

1762
01:26:21,053 --> 01:26:30,372
Speaker 3: Boy, very good afternoon to you. We're talking about the

1763
01:26:30,492 --> 01:26:34,093
Speaker 3: rise and popularity of synthetic grass fake grass. It has

1764
01:26:34,173 --> 01:26:36,293
Speaker 3: become a big thing in New Zealand and Matt you

1765
01:26:36,333 --> 01:26:40,133
Speaker 3: mentioned before the technology has improved quite drastically in terms

1766
01:26:40,173 --> 01:26:43,492
Speaker 3: of the old plastic turf that we remember. I still

1767
01:26:43,532 --> 01:26:46,652
Speaker 3: don't get it. I still don't understand why it's so popular,

1768
01:26:46,692 --> 01:26:48,852
Speaker 3: Why so many people are going for the synthetic grass

1769
01:26:48,893 --> 01:26:51,372
Speaker 3: over real change my mind.

1770
01:26:51,772 --> 01:26:54,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, someone just said, look, surely there's something more important.

1771
01:26:56,013 --> 01:26:59,053
Speaker 3: Who's that's that? That's a that's a fake grass guy,

1772
01:26:59,692 --> 01:27:02,852
Speaker 3: And I've got your quote ready.

1773
01:27:04,253 --> 01:27:06,173
Speaker 2: Poor Matt to Winness ringing me during my show. It's

1774
01:27:06,213 --> 01:27:08,772
Speaker 2: the number professional broadcast would have had had some of

1775
01:27:08,772 --> 01:27:11,213
Speaker 2: his devices off. I thought I did. But anyway, someone said,

1776
01:27:11,213 --> 01:27:13,532
Speaker 2: surely there's something more important and interesting in the world

1777
01:27:13,532 --> 01:27:14,772
Speaker 2: to talk about than fake grass.

1778
01:27:14,812 --> 01:27:15,052
Speaker 24: Wrong.

1779
01:27:15,133 --> 01:27:17,293
Speaker 2: It's the most important topic in the entire world. Nothing

1780
01:27:17,293 --> 01:27:20,532
Speaker 2: comes close right now in New Zealand than fake grass.

1781
01:27:20,572 --> 01:27:25,052
Speaker 3: Exactly, Warren, Are you someone who has purchased some fake grass,

1782
01:27:25,093 --> 01:27:28,013
Speaker 3: some synthetic grass?

1783
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:30,772
Speaker 31: Yeah, well that was the first thing, Tyler. I was

1784
01:27:30,812 --> 01:27:33,612
Speaker 31: just going to correct you on calling it fake grass.

1785
01:27:33,772 --> 01:27:35,732
Speaker 31: Is a bit of an anomaly, really, Yeah, we're talking

1786
01:27:35,732 --> 01:27:39,732
Speaker 31: about synthetic turf and not so much purchase, but we've

1787
01:27:39,732 --> 01:27:42,453
Speaker 31: installed plenty of it. So we've been in the construction,

1788
01:27:43,133 --> 01:27:47,572
Speaker 31: landscape and ground screw alternative foundation game for a long time.

1789
01:27:48,093 --> 01:27:51,692
Speaker 31: And I can put you a lawn down with real grass.

1790
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:54,173
Speaker 31: I can put you a lawn down with synthetic turf.

1791
01:27:54,532 --> 01:27:57,372
Speaker 31: It's all about the circumstances in the right place, and

1792
01:27:57,452 --> 01:28:00,452
Speaker 31: there are plenty of places that you will never ever

1793
01:28:00,612 --> 01:28:04,612
Speaker 31: grow normal grass. It'll be full of weeds, moss, moisture,

1794
01:28:04,732 --> 01:28:07,772
Speaker 31: crap for Africa, mate, And that's when you need some

1795
01:28:07,812 --> 01:28:10,532
Speaker 31: good quali the synthetic turfs. And so there's plenty of

1796
01:28:10,572 --> 01:28:14,653
Speaker 31: rubbish on the market. We've only ever purchased and installed

1797
01:28:14,692 --> 01:28:18,973
Speaker 31: good quality brand and it will last well longer than

1798
01:28:19,013 --> 01:28:19,532
Speaker 31: your lawnmow.

1799
01:28:19,652 --> 01:28:20,213
Speaker 9: Well, that's for.

1800
01:28:20,093 --> 01:28:23,533
Speaker 2: Sure, Warren. Is there a hybrid option.

1801
01:28:25,492 --> 01:28:31,293
Speaker 31: A hybrid option of the grass fake and no particularly yeah, no, no,

1802
01:28:31,412 --> 01:28:33,812
Speaker 31: not particularly. You can have some in your front lawn

1803
01:28:33,853 --> 01:28:37,612
Speaker 31: and different in your back. But honestly, synthetic turfs like

1804
01:28:38,093 --> 01:28:41,652
Speaker 31: there is such a high quality variety. We only use

1805
01:28:41,732 --> 01:28:44,572
Speaker 31: the Tigers brand because we've never had troubles with it.

1806
01:28:45,213 --> 01:28:48,372
Speaker 31: You can you can get stuff there that that you

1807
01:28:48,492 --> 01:28:50,933
Speaker 31: can have like little dead looking bits in it that

1808
01:28:51,013 --> 01:28:53,973
Speaker 31: can be luscious green. You can have a bucketload of

1809
01:28:54,013 --> 01:28:56,772
Speaker 31: different colors. We put you an orange or a blue

1810
01:28:56,772 --> 01:29:02,012
Speaker 31: one and if you wanted to So, yeah's it sounds

1811
01:29:02,053 --> 01:29:03,892
Speaker 31: to me like you've kind of never been outside a

1812
01:29:03,893 --> 01:29:04,612
Speaker 31: lot tyler the.

1813
01:29:04,532 --> 01:29:05,572
Speaker 2: Way you're talking about it.

1814
01:29:05,652 --> 01:29:12,492
Speaker 31: So's a very good quality products that are absolutely fantastic.

1815
01:29:12,612 --> 01:29:15,892
Speaker 3: Okay, quick couple of questions for your Warren. So say

1816
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:18,093
Speaker 3: I've got ten square meters in my lawn at the

1817
01:29:18,093 --> 01:29:21,133
Speaker 3: moment that i want some synthetic grass on. I've got

1818
01:29:21,612 --> 01:29:24,452
Speaker 3: a dog who's got a very weak bladder loves to

1819
01:29:25,053 --> 01:29:28,932
Speaker 3: urinates on this, this synthetic lawn. What product is going

1820
01:29:28,973 --> 01:29:30,932
Speaker 3: to put up with that sort of abuse for more

1821
01:29:30,973 --> 01:29:31,412
Speaker 3: than a year.

1822
01:29:33,013 --> 01:29:36,692
Speaker 31: Yeah, again, good quality synthetic turf. Now what you'll notice

1823
01:29:36,772 --> 01:29:38,892
Speaker 31: if your dog is actually real and it does do

1824
01:29:39,013 --> 01:29:41,492
Speaker 31: that to you, you'll actually notice that we are heap

1825
01:29:41,532 --> 01:29:43,532
Speaker 31: of dead patches on your grass lawn that you've got

1826
01:29:43,572 --> 01:29:46,932
Speaker 31: to keep manufacturing and bringing back to life. Yep, and

1827
01:29:47,013 --> 01:29:50,972
Speaker 31: so yep, clearly. Yeah, I mean we live in Auckland.

1828
01:29:51,013 --> 01:29:52,892
Speaker 31: We get enough rain and so you never get too

1829
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:55,093
Speaker 31: much of a smell problem hanging around. But it does

1830
01:29:55,173 --> 01:29:57,812
Speaker 31: not deteriorate or kill your synthetic turf.

1831
01:29:58,053 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 4: Warre.

1832
01:29:58,253 --> 01:30:01,333
Speaker 2: I've got a question here from Anna. She says, guys,

1833
01:30:01,412 --> 01:30:04,213
Speaker 2: apologies for the dumb question. What about when you dog

1834
01:30:04,492 --> 01:30:06,532
Speaker 2: wheeze on the lawn or worse?

1835
01:30:08,412 --> 01:30:11,892
Speaker 31: Yeah, well, again, no problems. I mean, because you're picking

1836
01:30:11,933 --> 01:30:13,852
Speaker 31: up your doggie doos no matter where you go, or

1837
01:30:13,893 --> 01:30:17,173
Speaker 31: you should be. So you do it out there, kick

1838
01:30:17,213 --> 01:30:20,652
Speaker 31: a bit of water on it with a hose at all. Great,

1839
01:30:20,732 --> 01:30:23,173
Speaker 31: so everything drains through. It's not like it sits there

1840
01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:27,372
Speaker 31: and pools or anything. So fantastic product in our world.

1841
01:30:27,492 --> 01:30:29,852
Speaker 31: And again we just assess where it needs to go,

1842
01:30:30,412 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 31: whether you're better with the real grass. If you know

1843
01:30:33,293 --> 01:30:36,572
Speaker 31: where space make, we'll put you a rye grass lawn

1844
01:30:36,692 --> 01:30:39,572
Speaker 31: in or some tall fescue and you look after it.

1845
01:30:39,532 --> 01:30:40,093
Speaker 7: And it's great.

1846
01:30:40,333 --> 01:30:42,852
Speaker 31: You've got places that you need synthetic to earth. It's

1847
01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:45,012
Speaker 31: the best thing because you'll never grow grass there properly

1848
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:47,173
Speaker 31: and no maintenance, easy care.

1849
01:30:47,532 --> 01:30:50,532
Speaker 3: What style is the big seller worm? What's what's the

1850
01:30:50,532 --> 01:30:52,012
Speaker 3: one that people go for the most?

1851
01:30:53,492 --> 01:30:58,213
Speaker 31: Yeah, it's interesting, Actually there's a It's the one that

1852
01:30:58,293 --> 01:31:02,372
Speaker 31: looks kind of the most sort of luscious green. It's

1853
01:31:02,412 --> 01:31:05,452
Speaker 31: not my favorite, to be honest. I like the one

1854
01:31:05,452 --> 01:31:07,852
Speaker 31: that looks a little more sort of total authentic. There's

1855
01:31:07,853 --> 01:31:09,732
Speaker 31: a few little brown bits in it, and it looks

1856
01:31:09,772 --> 01:31:12,812
Speaker 31: more like a genuine lawn. And from honestly, from ten

1857
01:31:12,853 --> 01:31:15,732
Speaker 31: meters away, you couldn't tell it from real grass, real

1858
01:31:15,812 --> 01:31:19,213
Speaker 31: manicured grass. But a lot of people like there's the

1859
01:31:19,293 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 31: one called end that the Tiger dev brand has got

1860
01:31:21,933 --> 01:31:25,092
Speaker 31: one called Envy, and it's just a super luscious green

1861
01:31:25,372 --> 01:31:28,693
Speaker 31: and people most people tend to like that.

1862
01:31:28,692 --> 01:31:31,692
Speaker 25: That just that that absolute.

1863
01:31:31,213 --> 01:31:35,052
Speaker 31: Picture green look. I kind of liked the two little

1864
01:31:35,093 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 31: brown spicks a little bit more.

1865
01:31:36,253 --> 01:31:37,772
Speaker 25: But there's a variety of stuff.

1866
01:31:38,213 --> 01:31:40,933
Speaker 3: But what about the smell of fresh cut grass. You know,

1867
01:31:41,053 --> 01:31:43,892
Speaker 3: the feel of grass in your hands and on your feet,

1868
01:31:44,173 --> 01:31:46,452
Speaker 3: the grass stains with the kids in the backyard cricket.

1869
01:31:46,452 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 3: You can't get that stuff was synthetic.

1870
01:31:50,053 --> 01:31:52,652
Speaker 31: No, And that's again what I'm saying, the right right

1871
01:31:52,692 --> 01:31:55,492
Speaker 31: product for the right situation. If you would prefer to

1872
01:31:55,532 --> 01:31:57,053
Speaker 31: go to the beach on the weekend and knock it

1873
01:31:57,173 --> 01:31:59,853
Speaker 31: out and mow your lawn and drag the grass inside

1874
01:31:59,973 --> 01:32:02,812
Speaker 31: and had that smell everywhere, then you'll put a synthetic

1875
01:32:02,812 --> 01:32:06,213
Speaker 31: tear flowing down. I'm a grass fan. I love it.

1876
01:32:06,372 --> 01:32:10,412
Speaker 31: I love mowing, and I love lay a pristine and

1877
01:32:10,532 --> 01:32:14,852
Speaker 31: sewing and watch and grow a real grass lawn. But

1878
01:32:14,973 --> 01:32:19,412
Speaker 31: there's places that that it's just completely inappropriate or it's

1879
01:32:19,532 --> 01:32:22,012
Speaker 31: just a personal choice because people don't want to hassle.

1880
01:32:22,333 --> 01:32:24,052
Speaker 31: I mean, you can get your property into the place

1881
01:32:24,053 --> 01:32:26,213
Speaker 31: where you don't own the lawn mower and you don't

1882
01:32:26,253 --> 01:32:28,372
Speaker 31: pay a lawnmower person to come and do your lawn.

1883
01:32:29,093 --> 01:32:31,572
Speaker 31: That's definitely a spray and walk away deal.

1884
01:32:31,772 --> 01:32:36,013
Speaker 2: So now, Warren, I, because you're an expert on this,

1885
01:32:36,213 --> 01:32:38,492
Speaker 2: So I was saying, before I dug up my lawn,

1886
01:32:38,572 --> 01:32:41,452
Speaker 2: I did everything with it, turned it over and then

1887
01:32:41,572 --> 01:32:44,892
Speaker 2: killed everything, and then left it, then turned it over again,

1888
01:32:45,013 --> 01:32:47,812
Speaker 2: and then followed the exact instructions and planted the lawn.

1889
01:32:47,853 --> 01:32:49,892
Speaker 2: And it was the most amazing thing ever, and even

1890
01:32:49,893 --> 01:32:52,252
Speaker 2: got that stuff that was supposed to kill the weeds

1891
01:32:52,293 --> 01:32:54,972
Speaker 2: but not the grass. But before I even knew it, it

1892
01:32:55,013 --> 01:32:57,412
Speaker 2: was the most ugly lawn I'd ever seen in my life.

1893
01:32:57,412 --> 01:32:59,333
Speaker 2: And it was worse than when I started. What did

1894
01:32:59,372 --> 01:33:00,293
Speaker 2: I do wrong there, Warren?

1895
01:33:01,893 --> 01:33:03,932
Speaker 31: You didn't put down an two floor and there.

1896
01:33:06,412 --> 01:33:09,252
Speaker 3: You're a good man warrant. Sorry, you came serious.

1897
01:33:09,412 --> 01:33:10,972
Speaker 31: And this is what I would do, Like if I

1898
01:33:11,013 --> 01:33:13,092
Speaker 31: was putting my own grass down, which I've done plenty

1899
01:33:13,173 --> 01:33:16,213
Speaker 31: on plenty of our properties over the years, I will

1900
01:33:16,253 --> 01:33:20,372
Speaker 31: literally spray out an area for twelve months because you

1901
01:33:20,452 --> 01:33:24,772
Speaker 31: get different grasses and different weeds that seed at different seasons,

1902
01:33:24,812 --> 01:33:28,053
Speaker 31: you'll get summer grasses, winter grasses, flat grasses. So you've

1903
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:31,092
Speaker 31: got to go through a whole twelve months of spraying

1904
01:33:31,093 --> 01:33:34,492
Speaker 31: that out to try and do your best. And then

1905
01:33:35,532 --> 01:33:37,532
Speaker 31: you will put a really tall fence up so that

1906
01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:40,253
Speaker 31: no birds ever flew over your lawn and crapped on it.

1907
01:33:40,572 --> 01:33:42,692
Speaker 31: And you would put a wall up to stop any

1908
01:33:42,732 --> 01:33:44,492
Speaker 31: seeds blowing in from the neighbor's place.

1909
01:33:45,213 --> 01:33:47,972
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and you're saying, Tyler, you know the synthetic nature,

1910
01:33:47,973 --> 01:33:49,612
Speaker 2: it's not natural. But when I was trying to grow

1911
01:33:49,612 --> 01:33:51,772
Speaker 2: a great lawn on the amount of chemicals I deployed

1912
01:33:51,812 --> 01:33:54,053
Speaker 2: to try and make it a great lawn, surely we're

1913
01:33:54,093 --> 01:33:55,092
Speaker 2: not good for the environment.

1914
01:33:55,412 --> 01:33:58,372
Speaker 3: I'm getting closer to understanding the popularity. Go one hundred

1915
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:01,093
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. Thank you very much, Warren, very

1916
01:34:01,133 --> 01:34:03,892
Speaker 3: good salesperson. Warren nineteen nine ten is the text number.

1917
01:34:03,893 --> 01:34:12,412
Speaker 3: It's twenty four past three.

1918
01:34:09,652 --> 01:34:15,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call on youth Talk ZB.

1919
01:34:15,253 --> 01:34:17,852
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty six past three. We're talking about fake

1920
01:34:17,893 --> 01:34:21,812
Speaker 3: grass or synthetic grass. Mike, are you a fan or no?

1921
01:34:23,772 --> 01:34:26,852
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm a total fan. We've got two properties and

1922
01:34:26,893 --> 01:34:33,333
Speaker 11: we've got synthetic grass and both of them. One of

1923
01:34:33,333 --> 01:34:38,693
Speaker 11: our properties is a bench place, and the quality of

1924
01:34:38,732 --> 01:34:42,412
Speaker 11: the soil and betside places is normally pretty low. We

1925
01:34:42,452 --> 01:34:44,932
Speaker 11: looked down, but he did he did what you guys

1926
01:34:44,973 --> 01:34:48,772
Speaker 11: did you know? He was preparing his lawn and moment

1927
01:34:48,853 --> 01:34:53,413
Speaker 11: and all the sort of chemicals are to it and forever.

1928
01:34:54,253 --> 01:34:57,652
Speaker 11: It looked terrible all the time. And we're got to

1929
01:34:57,692 --> 01:34:59,972
Speaker 11: that and no, we're not doing that. Let's get some

1930
01:35:00,492 --> 01:35:03,053
Speaker 11: synthetic to if we went to this company, never know,

1931
01:35:04,452 --> 01:35:07,213
Speaker 11: they had a whole selection of different products that and

1932
01:35:07,532 --> 01:35:11,892
Speaker 11: we've got this sort of with a sort of fleck

1933
01:35:11,933 --> 01:35:14,572
Speaker 11: of brown in it. It looks exactly sort of like

1934
01:35:14,612 --> 01:35:19,492
Speaker 11: the grass in the area. But instead's great for the dogs.

1935
01:35:19,532 --> 01:35:22,333
Speaker 11: I mean one was talking about the dogs were on it.

1936
01:35:22,652 --> 01:35:25,372
Speaker 11: You never see anything that they do all this stuff.

1937
01:35:25,893 --> 01:35:26,893
Speaker 11: Never have a problem with that.

1938
01:35:27,772 --> 01:35:28,492
Speaker 12: We just like it.

1939
01:35:28,492 --> 01:35:30,492
Speaker 11: And you know, I want to go to the beach

1940
01:35:30,692 --> 01:35:34,492
Speaker 11: and go fishing or go swimming, or I don't want

1941
01:35:34,532 --> 01:35:36,973
Speaker 11: to be mown my lawns. It's perfect for it.

1942
01:35:37,093 --> 01:35:39,213
Speaker 2: How big are you lawns, Mike? How big are your

1943
01:35:39,213 --> 01:35:41,293
Speaker 2: synthetic lawns.

1944
01:35:42,893 --> 01:35:45,053
Speaker 11: At the beach. They're pretty big. I've also got a

1945
01:35:45,093 --> 01:35:48,333
Speaker 11: little town house in Auckland and we actually have a

1946
01:35:48,333 --> 01:35:50,972
Speaker 11: pretty small area and we'll put turf in there as well.

1947
01:35:51,173 --> 01:35:53,412
Speaker 11: Since they get turf in there and you know, then

1948
01:35:53,452 --> 01:35:56,213
Speaker 11: we don't have to worry about, you know, getting motor

1949
01:35:56,213 --> 01:35:59,412
Speaker 11: mars and I having to you know, most people on

1950
01:35:59,572 --> 01:36:04,173
Speaker 11: orkand that have got ten twenty square meters of land.

1951
01:36:04,293 --> 01:36:06,253
Speaker 11: I mean, who wants to have a lawn mower for that?

1952
01:36:07,692 --> 01:36:09,092
Speaker 2: And was it expensive?

1953
01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:13,932
Speaker 11: And use it for ten seconds and it's all done?

1954
01:36:14,093 --> 01:36:14,333
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1955
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:16,612
Speaker 2: Exactly was it expensive?

1956
01:36:16,652 --> 01:36:16,732
Speaker 9: Mi?

1957
01:36:19,372 --> 01:36:23,213
Speaker 11: Look, it wasn't. I would say it wasn't cheap. But

1958
01:36:23,412 --> 01:36:26,013
Speaker 11: if I think about the amount of time I'm absolutely

1959
01:36:26,053 --> 01:36:28,492
Speaker 11: hopeless in the garden. So if I think about the

1960
01:36:28,532 --> 01:36:31,532
Speaker 11: amount of time that I would have spent turning into

1961
01:36:31,572 --> 01:36:33,852
Speaker 11: a lawn, trying to get it to look perfect and

1962
01:36:34,372 --> 01:36:38,572
Speaker 11: trying to maintain it in perfect position, I think, you know,

1963
01:36:39,093 --> 01:36:43,612
Speaker 11: synthetic turf is as a bargain really on that basis so.

1964
01:36:43,732 --> 01:36:46,372
Speaker 3: Genuine question, Mike. Is our property down in christ it's

1965
01:36:46,372 --> 01:36:48,253
Speaker 3: fairly close to the beach and as you say, the soil,

1966
01:36:48,253 --> 01:36:49,772
Speaker 3: it was quite hard to get a good lawn there,

1967
01:36:49,812 --> 01:36:51,892
Speaker 3: so I kind of gave up. It was an okay lawn,

1968
01:36:51,933 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 3: but it didn't look that slightly. But it's about I

1969
01:36:54,853 --> 01:36:57,692
Speaker 3: mean taking the house out of the equation. We're talking

1970
01:36:57,732 --> 01:37:00,333
Speaker 3: about three hundred and fifty square meters. That to me

1971
01:37:00,412 --> 01:37:02,932
Speaker 3: seems very expensive to put down artificial lawn.

1972
01:37:04,652 --> 01:37:08,772
Speaker 11: Well again, we would have done probably hard after that,

1973
01:37:10,253 --> 01:37:13,892
Speaker 11: probably close to that. Once it's down, you never have

1974
01:37:14,013 --> 01:37:17,133
Speaker 11: to really look after it again, right, so, you know,

1975
01:37:17,253 --> 01:37:21,293
Speaker 11: and it looks you know, we've got quality synthetic grass.

1976
01:37:21,333 --> 01:37:25,013
Speaker 11: It's not rubbishy stuff. There's some rubbishy stuff out there,

1977
01:37:24,612 --> 01:37:27,612
Speaker 11: you know, the local tennis courts, and now it's they've

1978
01:37:27,692 --> 01:37:31,772
Speaker 11: put the cheapest of the cheap stuff. And I see,

1979
01:37:31,772 --> 01:37:34,093
Speaker 11: you know, it's taken about five years and it needs

1980
01:37:34,133 --> 01:37:37,492
Speaker 11: to be totally replaced. Our place we've had five years.

1981
01:37:37,572 --> 01:37:40,892
Speaker 11: It still looks like what it looks like women's stall.

1982
01:37:41,053 --> 01:37:42,093
Speaker 11: It looks beautiful.

1983
01:37:42,333 --> 01:37:46,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks very much. No, you made a good call. Yeah,

1984
01:37:46,333 --> 01:37:47,892
Speaker 3: thank you. We're going to get to the headlines. It

1985
01:37:47,933 --> 01:37:51,412
Speaker 3: is twenty nine past three.

1986
01:37:53,013 --> 01:37:56,213
Speaker 7: You talk, there'd be headlines with blue bubble tax is.

1987
01:37:56,293 --> 01:37:59,333
Speaker 18: It's no trouble with the blue bubble. The Public Service

1988
01:37:59,372 --> 01:38:03,253
Speaker 18: Association's accusing the government of ignoring evidence and cuts to

1989
01:38:03,333 --> 01:38:06,812
Speaker 18: the Mardi Crown Relations Office. It says forty percent of

1990
01:38:06,893 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 18: roles are being slashed, which it says amounts to a

1991
01:38:10,612 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 18: breach of tatility Alwai Tangi obligations. The Ministry of Health

1992
01:38:15,692 --> 01:38:19,812
Speaker 18: has worn the order to general emergency preparedness is at risk.

1993
01:38:20,253 --> 01:38:23,132
Speaker 18: While some improvements have been made since the COVID pandemic

1994
01:38:23,173 --> 01:38:27,493
Speaker 18: of twenty twenty, staff and budget pressures have hindered implementing

1995
01:38:27,532 --> 01:38:31,732
Speaker 18: all recommendations. A lawyer says court back logs could be

1996
01:38:31,812 --> 01:38:35,732
Speaker 18: cleared off, more people could access justice remotely. Courts Minister

1997
01:38:35,812 --> 01:38:39,373
Speaker 18: Nicole McKee has opened public submissions to change in courtroom

1998
01:38:39,452 --> 01:38:43,772
Speaker 18: rules to let people participate from home. Two people are

1999
01:38:43,812 --> 01:38:47,732
Speaker 18: in hospital, one with critical injuries, after an alleged assault

2000
01:38:47,853 --> 01:38:51,692
Speaker 18: with a weapon at a commercial address in Auckland's Papatueitoy. Today,

2001
01:38:52,692 --> 01:38:57,133
Speaker 18: Dunedin's weekend fashion show raising money for suicide awareness will

2002
01:38:57,173 --> 01:39:00,772
Speaker 18: proceed with an improved liquor license. The events to support

2003
01:39:00,772 --> 01:39:05,652
Speaker 18: the Life Matters Suicide Prevention Trust carb loading before the

2004
01:39:05,652 --> 01:39:09,492
Speaker 18: Auckland Marathon. Well, here is what their experts suggest. You

2005
01:39:09,532 --> 01:39:12,612
Speaker 18: can find out at inzen Heral Premium. Back now to

2006
01:39:12,692 --> 01:39:14,052
Speaker 18: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2007
01:39:14,053 --> 01:39:16,573
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylen. And we're talking about artificial

2008
01:39:16,652 --> 01:39:20,013
Speaker 3: turf or lawns. Can I Deborah, how are you?

2009
01:39:20,293 --> 01:39:20,492
Speaker 27: Yeah?

2010
01:39:20,532 --> 01:39:20,732
Speaker 4: Good?

2011
01:39:20,732 --> 01:39:22,532
Speaker 3: Are you a fan of the artificial turf?

2012
01:39:23,492 --> 01:39:26,253
Speaker 33: I am now. I got a little puppy seven years

2013
01:39:26,293 --> 01:39:30,373
Speaker 33: ago and came art sell a tray with the artificial

2014
01:39:30,412 --> 01:39:32,973
Speaker 33: turf on top, and I taught my little dog o

2015
01:39:33,213 --> 01:39:34,013
Speaker 33: to We were on.

2016
01:39:34,013 --> 01:39:36,732
Speaker 28: The grass and poodle on the grass.

2017
01:39:36,213 --> 01:39:38,852
Speaker 33: And we never have any accidents anywhere. And you can

2018
01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:40,132
Speaker 33: wash it out, it's perfect.

2019
01:39:40,372 --> 01:39:42,333
Speaker 2: Oh, so you can pack that lawn up and wash

2020
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:43,852
Speaker 2: it out, or your hoes get down.

2021
01:39:43,692 --> 01:39:44,133
Speaker 24: Where it is.

2022
01:39:44,893 --> 01:39:46,812
Speaker 33: Hey, you can pack it up and hope it out.

2023
01:39:47,213 --> 01:39:49,253
Speaker 2: As a dog fan and a dog lover, Deborah, can

2024
01:39:49,293 --> 01:39:51,732
Speaker 2: I ask you what type of dog you got there?

2025
01:39:52,652 --> 01:39:53,732
Speaker 28: I've got a whisty pose.

2026
01:39:53,812 --> 01:39:56,093
Speaker 33: So she's a cross between a West Thailand terrier and

2027
01:39:56,133 --> 01:39:56,892
Speaker 33: a sweet poodle.

2028
01:39:57,053 --> 01:39:57,892
Speaker 3: Oh lovely.

2029
01:39:58,293 --> 01:40:01,492
Speaker 33: Got the terrier naughtiness and the poodle intelligence and know

2030
01:40:01,492 --> 01:40:02,253
Speaker 33: how to get away with it.

2031
01:40:02,652 --> 01:40:07,412
Speaker 28: Name copezz.

2032
01:40:07,812 --> 01:40:08,652
Speaker 2: Dog Bears.

2033
01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:08,932
Speaker 34: You're good.

2034
01:40:09,532 --> 01:40:10,572
Speaker 2: The top is listening.

2035
01:40:11,452 --> 01:40:12,372
Speaker 33: Yeah, she's listening.

2036
01:40:13,732 --> 01:40:15,852
Speaker 3: Official lawn having a world of its time.

2037
01:40:16,572 --> 01:40:18,452
Speaker 2: Good doggy Topaz, you're a good dog.

2038
01:40:18,612 --> 01:40:20,852
Speaker 33: Yeah, you've got them on a couple of places and

2039
01:40:20,973 --> 01:40:22,372
Speaker 33: like I here at the back, or if I take

2040
01:40:22,412 --> 01:40:24,253
Speaker 33: her away to a stranger's house, take it with me

2041
01:40:24,772 --> 01:40:27,452
Speaker 33: and have no worries. It's just going to peel or

2042
01:40:27,452 --> 01:40:29,612
Speaker 33: poodle on someone's on someone's carpet.

2043
01:40:29,692 --> 01:40:31,692
Speaker 2: So hang on. This is a portable this is a

2044
01:40:31,692 --> 01:40:35,852
Speaker 2: portable patch of lawn. You're taking it wherever you go. Yeah, yeah, oh,

2045
01:40:35,893 --> 01:40:38,612
Speaker 2: well you've got a situation very well.

2046
01:40:40,372 --> 01:40:42,333
Speaker 33: Yeah, it's got like a little drainage train then a

2047
01:40:42,412 --> 01:40:42,972
Speaker 33: capture try.

2048
01:40:43,812 --> 01:40:45,972
Speaker 2: But you're running a wider real lawn.

2049
01:40:45,812 --> 01:40:46,053
Speaker 1: Are you.

2050
01:40:47,732 --> 01:40:50,412
Speaker 33: Ah, yeah, we are. We are real lawn wider.

2051
01:40:50,532 --> 01:40:56,292
Speaker 2: But yeah, but Topez isn't interested, not interested in soiling

2052
01:40:56,333 --> 01:40:57,532
Speaker 2: the real lawn.

2053
01:40:58,572 --> 01:41:01,052
Speaker 33: No, she'd just go on the on the artificial grass

2054
01:41:01,093 --> 01:41:02,013
Speaker 33: and loves it.

2055
01:41:02,213 --> 01:41:03,493
Speaker 2: Loves it artificial.

2056
01:41:04,612 --> 01:41:07,093
Speaker 33: Yeah, loves it artificial and you can wash it out

2057
01:41:07,133 --> 01:41:09,133
Speaker 33: so there's no smelly ey.

2058
01:41:09,213 --> 01:41:11,932
Speaker 3: Technology is getting good in Topez as a well trained dog,

2059
01:41:12,412 --> 01:41:15,452
Speaker 3: lovely to check. Thank you very much. Hey you hamish.

2060
01:41:15,853 --> 01:41:19,532
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I just had to turn my lawna off good.

2061
01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:22,492
Speaker 2: Man real lawn. So you're mowing an artificial lawn or

2062
01:41:22,492 --> 01:41:23,052
Speaker 2: a real lawn.

2063
01:41:24,013 --> 01:41:27,013
Speaker 4: Well, I'm a lawn contractor. I've been my lawns all day.

2064
01:41:27,253 --> 01:41:30,612
Speaker 4: Oh yes, So I don't want you guys pushing the

2065
01:41:30,692 --> 01:41:33,412
Speaker 4: artifice get out of business.

2066
01:41:33,492 --> 01:41:34,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, good man, but.

2067
01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:39,173
Speaker 4: No, I look after my lawn at home. It's apart

2068
01:41:39,173 --> 01:41:41,213
Speaker 4: from the dog and the wife, and my lawn's my baby.

2069
01:41:43,412 --> 01:41:46,452
Speaker 4: So you know, it's an ongoing it's an ongoing process.

2070
01:41:46,532 --> 01:41:48,892
Speaker 4: You can't just sort of leave a lawn and walk

2071
01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:51,692
Speaker 4: away from it and expect it to stay stay healthy.

2072
01:41:51,732 --> 01:41:57,053
Speaker 2: Matt, Hey, I've got a question for you, Hamish. What's

2073
01:41:57,053 --> 01:41:58,932
Speaker 2: the name of your business and are you looking for

2074
01:41:58,933 --> 01:41:59,772
Speaker 2: for more clients?

2075
01:42:01,772 --> 01:42:05,732
Speaker 4: So I own a gym's mowing franchise and lower hut

2076
01:42:06,692 --> 01:42:08,133
Speaker 4: and always looking for clients.

2077
01:42:08,412 --> 01:42:10,253
Speaker 2: Okay, So is there a particular number people can ring

2078
01:42:10,293 --> 01:42:10,812
Speaker 2: for you.

2079
01:42:14,333 --> 01:42:14,652
Speaker 4: To?

2080
01:42:14,652 --> 01:42:14,892
Speaker 29: One?

2081
01:42:15,013 --> 01:42:18,293
Speaker 4: Triple nine eight, one zero straight to me?

2082
01:42:18,812 --> 01:42:21,452
Speaker 3: Very good and real lawn all the way. So your

2083
01:42:21,532 --> 01:42:23,453
Speaker 3: lawn at home, Hamish, must be amazing.

2084
01:42:25,133 --> 01:42:28,772
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's been straggling a little bit through winter,

2085
01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:31,013
Speaker 4: so I'm just getting ready for a bit of a

2086
01:42:31,053 --> 01:42:34,372
Speaker 4: renovation on it in the next week or two.

2087
01:42:34,732 --> 01:42:36,452
Speaker 2: Can you be bothered mowing your lawn when you get

2088
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:38,012
Speaker 2: home from mowing other people's lawns?

2089
01:42:40,452 --> 01:42:40,732
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2090
01:42:40,853 --> 01:42:45,772
Speaker 4: I do it because I I've got feelings for my lawn.

2091
01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:50,812
Speaker 4: You know, I've invested money into it, so it's part.

2092
01:42:50,612 --> 01:42:51,132
Speaker 3: Of the family.

2093
01:42:51,412 --> 01:42:53,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in a relationship with your lawn.

2094
01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:55,293
Speaker 3: What's the number one lawn tip? Do you get a

2095
01:42:55,333 --> 01:42:56,372
Speaker 3: bit of air rating in there?

2096
01:42:57,853 --> 01:43:01,213
Speaker 4: I do on my lawn for an aerating that a garifying.

2097
01:43:01,572 --> 01:43:01,772
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2098
01:43:02,933 --> 01:43:06,372
Speaker 4: Probably the biggest thing people do wrong is cut too short.

2099
01:43:07,652 --> 01:43:10,572
Speaker 4: They want it cut once a month, and can you

2100
01:43:10,612 --> 01:43:11,333
Speaker 4: cut it short?

2101
01:43:12,372 --> 01:43:14,772
Speaker 2: What's what's your favorite type of lawn?

2102
01:43:16,853 --> 01:43:20,532
Speaker 3: I love a good right myself, right Yeah, yeah, nice

2103
01:43:20,532 --> 01:43:21,732
Speaker 3: color and that good tone.

2104
01:43:22,492 --> 01:43:26,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, but just just with the artificial stuff, I would

2105
01:43:26,293 --> 01:43:30,412
Speaker 4: say from what I've seen, I'd do some gardening, gets

2106
01:43:30,492 --> 01:43:34,293
Speaker 4: some property development. From what I've seen with the artificial stuff,

2107
01:43:34,572 --> 01:43:38,372
Speaker 4: it does get weeds, so it's not again, it's not

2108
01:43:38,492 --> 01:43:40,732
Speaker 4: just walk away from it. They do need looked after,

2109
01:43:41,452 --> 01:43:44,732
Speaker 4: and they get hot because it's plastic, right, so they

2110
01:43:44,853 --> 01:43:50,012
Speaker 4: get you can't lie on like you would a real lawn.

2111
01:43:50,093 --> 01:43:50,253
Speaker 23: Right.

2112
01:43:50,732 --> 01:43:52,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do your thoughts on ccou you.

2113
01:43:55,532 --> 01:43:58,012
Speaker 4: If you buy the beach, it's great, but if you've

2114
01:43:58,692 --> 01:44:00,652
Speaker 4: if you've got a footpath or anything else like the

2115
01:44:00,692 --> 01:44:04,892
Speaker 4: house or you rug, then it could cause you some problems.

2116
01:44:05,933 --> 01:44:08,092
Speaker 3: And you know your grass aamers give them a buzz,

2117
01:44:08,933 --> 01:44:13,572
Speaker 3: Josh mate, Hello, Hello, Now you want to talk about

2118
01:44:13,652 --> 01:44:17,532
Speaker 3: artificial lawn or real lawn? Yeah, good man. What do

2119
01:44:17,572 --> 01:44:18,692
Speaker 3: you like about real lawns?

2120
01:44:19,812 --> 01:44:22,972
Speaker 27: The cool partners that you get plant actual stuff instead

2121
01:44:23,013 --> 01:44:27,093
Speaker 27: of senstive grass is just for decorations, yep. And real

2122
01:44:27,133 --> 01:44:30,173
Speaker 27: grass you get to let your You can let your

2123
01:44:30,173 --> 01:44:32,492
Speaker 27: dogs yep, yep.

2124
01:44:32,532 --> 01:44:35,452
Speaker 3: They can't eat it, just like my.

2125
01:44:35,492 --> 01:44:37,652
Speaker 27: Dog used to eat grass and then pist it out.

2126
01:44:38,572 --> 01:44:40,333
Speaker 3: Dogs love a bit of good grass.

2127
01:44:41,173 --> 01:44:41,412
Speaker 27: Yep.

2128
01:44:41,612 --> 01:44:41,892
Speaker 6: Certain.

2129
01:44:42,652 --> 01:44:49,452
Speaker 2: What's what's the name of your dog, Josh, Andy, Indie.

2130
01:44:47,412 --> 01:44:48,173
Speaker 20: And do.

2131
01:44:49,692 --> 01:44:50,892
Speaker 3: And what kind of dog is Indie?

2132
01:44:51,933 --> 01:44:53,972
Speaker 27: It is a black labrador?

2133
01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:57,412
Speaker 3: Black labrador. Yeah, our labs love grass. They just love

2134
01:44:57,452 --> 01:44:58,572
Speaker 3: to eat full stop, don't they.

2135
01:44:58,732 --> 01:45:00,492
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones, that was the name of the dog. That

2136
01:45:00,532 --> 01:45:02,932
Speaker 2: wasn't Indiana Jones's real name. Do you know that? No?

2137
01:45:02,933 --> 01:45:03,293
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

2138
01:45:03,333 --> 01:45:05,092
Speaker 2: It came out in the third Indiana Jones movie.

2139
01:45:05,213 --> 01:45:07,052
Speaker 3: And Josh, do you play a bit of backyard cricket

2140
01:45:07,053 --> 01:45:08,253
Speaker 3: in the on the on the real lawn?

2141
01:45:10,013 --> 01:45:12,812
Speaker 27: I wish I don't own a crooked set, all right.

2142
01:45:14,333 --> 01:45:15,092
Speaker 2: I do play.

2143
01:45:14,893 --> 01:45:17,333
Speaker 27: Basketball down at the park and there is real grass

2144
01:45:17,372 --> 01:45:18,892
Speaker 27: at that place too or not?

2145
01:45:20,492 --> 01:45:22,852
Speaker 3: Good man, Josh, thank you very much. Right, good chat.

2146
01:45:23,013 --> 01:45:26,132
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm convinced completely on the artificial grass.

2147
01:45:26,253 --> 01:45:28,372
Speaker 3: Warren was very good, I've got to say, and and

2148
01:45:28,412 --> 01:45:30,133
Speaker 3: a few others promoting it.

2149
01:45:30,133 --> 01:45:33,492
Speaker 2: It depends where you are, Tyler, depends on the circumstances,

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Speaker 2: depends what your needs are, your goals in life are,

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01:45:36,372 --> 01:45:40,213
Speaker 2: how much time you've got, what's important to you? Yeah, yeah,

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01:45:40,253 --> 01:45:42,852
Speaker 2: I think there's I think we can we've got where

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01:45:43,812 --> 01:45:46,012
Speaker 2: we can allow people to have the lawns that work

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01:45:46,093 --> 01:45:47,452
Speaker 2: best for them without judging.

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01:45:47,572 --> 01:45:51,052
Speaker 3: Very diplomatically said right, it is time for topical tune,

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01:45:51,093 --> 01:45:53,253
Speaker 3: so you know the drill, and if you don't, me

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01:45:53,532 --> 01:45:56,253
Speaker 3: and Matt or Matt and I each pick a song

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01:45:56,412 --> 01:45:59,052
Speaker 3: that we tied to what we believe was the theme

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01:45:59,093 --> 01:46:01,732
Speaker 3: of the week or the story of the week. So

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01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:05,372
Speaker 3: it is first to three votes, that is, who takes

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Speaker 3: it out? You took it out last week. I think

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01:46:07,133 --> 01:46:08,452
Speaker 3: it was a down trap, wasn't it.

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01:46:08,452 --> 01:46:09,812
Speaker 2: It was a down last week? So I think it's

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01:46:10,133 --> 01:46:12,732
Speaker 2: two to one, two to one at the moment to

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Speaker 2: me at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the winner from last week goes first for

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01:46:16,612 --> 01:46:18,892
Speaker 3: their pitch, so okay, take it away.

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01:46:19,652 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 2: All right, there, here's my topical tune. You may not

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01:46:26,053 --> 01:46:29,892
Speaker 2: have noticed that the American president elections are on Carmela

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01:46:29,973 --> 01:46:31,732
Speaker 2: versus Trump. I was hoping to hold off on the

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01:46:31,772 --> 01:46:34,253
Speaker 2: song to announce it, but it started. America is the

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01:46:34,253 --> 01:46:37,492
Speaker 2: most powerful nation in the world economically and militarily, arguably

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01:46:37,532 --> 01:46:39,412
Speaker 2: culturally with the amount of focus we have on them,

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Speaker 2: so we have to We have two people that are

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01:46:42,772 --> 01:46:46,093
Speaker 2: trying to rule the world. Hence my topical tune. And

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01:46:46,133 --> 01:46:48,652
Speaker 2: what a tune it is. And it's been spoiled, but

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01:46:48,692 --> 01:46:54,452
Speaker 2: here it is Tears. Everyone wants, everybody wants to rule

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01:46:54,492 --> 01:46:55,333
Speaker 2: the world. What a song?

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01:46:56,133 --> 01:46:58,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, but slow for a Friday, isn't it?

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01:46:58,253 --> 01:47:00,612
Speaker 2: No? This is the driving This is a song that

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01:47:00,772 --> 01:47:02,812
Speaker 2: was designed by Tears for fears. They went back and

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01:47:02,853 --> 01:47:05,293
Speaker 2: record another song because it was perfect for radio. With

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01:47:05,372 --> 01:47:13,172
Speaker 2: that driving Don is here it again. It's the ultimate

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01:47:13,293 --> 01:47:16,732
Speaker 2: vehicle listening song. And it's so topical because the American

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01:47:16,732 --> 01:47:17,412
Speaker 2: elections are on that.

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Speaker 3: You go, all right, So that's Matt's choice, my choice today.

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01:47:20,532 --> 01:47:22,492
Speaker 3: Just before we play there just a small pitch, not

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01:47:22,532 --> 01:47:24,733
Speaker 3: a massive pitch though, but one of the big stories

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01:47:25,053 --> 01:47:27,892
Speaker 3: this week was more than eighty thousand students miss more

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01:47:27,933 --> 01:47:30,692
Speaker 3: than three weeks of school in term two this year.

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01:47:30,732 --> 01:47:33,053
Speaker 3: In the day that a lot of people hate in

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01:47:33,093 --> 01:47:38,613
Speaker 3: the week is Monday. So here's my pick today.

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01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:44,812
Speaker 2: It's a great tun Tyler Boomtown Rats. I mean it's

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01:47:44,853 --> 01:47:46,213
Speaker 2: good when it gets the chorus. It's a bit.

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01:47:48,013 --> 01:47:51,652
Speaker 35: This is around a bit at the start, but the

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Speaker 35: d down.

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01:47:53,612 --> 01:47:56,053
Speaker 3: Ah, Come on, people, you know what you need to do.

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01:47:56,133 --> 01:48:03,452
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty eighty. Yeah, yeah, keep playing, Andrew,

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01:48:03,572 --> 01:48:06,053
Speaker 3: keep playing it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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01:48:06,133 --> 01:48:09,053
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Nine the text. Even though

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01:48:09,053 --> 01:48:10,892
Speaker 3: we don't take texts, we still like to see them.

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01:48:11,372 --> 01:48:13,612
Speaker 3: This one Tyler. I few are lose to this song.

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01:48:13,652 --> 01:48:17,053
Speaker 3: Then you were dead to me from us give us

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01:48:17,053 --> 01:48:19,412
Speaker 3: a buds first of three takes it out. It is

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01:48:19,452 --> 01:48:20,532
Speaker 3: eighteen minutes to four.

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01:48:22,333 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty

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01:48:25,732 --> 01:48:29,412
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News

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01:48:29,492 --> 01:48:30,173
Speaker 1: Talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Whoo here where we go? My favorite part of the week,

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01:48:33,572 --> 01:48:37,093
Speaker 2: Tom very You're very thirsty was dog situation with the

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01:48:37,093 --> 01:48:37,612
Speaker 2: topical tune.

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01:48:37,612 --> 01:48:38,852
Speaker 3: Because and we get competitive with this.

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01:48:39,053 --> 01:48:41,572
Speaker 2: I do and there's a beer for award, who wins?

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01:48:41,692 --> 01:48:42,452
Speaker 3: You're real nervous?

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01:48:42,933 --> 01:48:45,532
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my song, best of three calls on eight

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01:48:45,612 --> 01:48:48,812
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. The American elections are on.

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01:48:49,452 --> 01:48:51,732
Speaker 2: Someone's trying to rule the world. So here we go

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01:48:53,333 --> 01:48:57,372
Speaker 2: tears for fear that fears everyone wants. Everybody wants to

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01:48:57,412 --> 01:48:57,892
Speaker 2: rule the world.

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01:48:57,973 --> 01:49:01,492
Speaker 3: Right, very good, Une, very good. And the big story

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01:49:01,532 --> 01:49:04,453
Speaker 3: this week I think was about truancy. Still a big problem.

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01:49:04,572 --> 01:49:07,773
Speaker 3: But nobody likes Monday. So here's my tune.

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01:49:12,893 --> 01:49:17,933
Speaker 2: Oka on the relevance to the topic and also the

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01:49:18,013 --> 01:49:18,892
Speaker 2: quality of the change.

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01:49:19,013 --> 01:49:23,333
Speaker 3: First of three takes that med you Happy Friday.

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01:49:24,053 --> 01:49:25,572
Speaker 25: E Friday.

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01:49:26,372 --> 01:49:26,932
Speaker 9: You're the man.

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01:49:27,093 --> 01:49:28,892
Speaker 31: You're losing tips off the own man.

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01:49:29,492 --> 01:49:30,133
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go.

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01:49:30,933 --> 01:49:34,892
Speaker 2: It's gonna go to Meddy May, thank you May Meddy

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01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:36,053
Speaker 2: or Meddy. That's one to me.

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01:49:36,412 --> 01:49:41,173
Speaker 3: Just three, let's go to Kevin. How you doing, I'm

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01:49:41,173 --> 01:49:41,892
Speaker 3: doing very well.

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01:49:41,893 --> 01:49:42,572
Speaker 7: How are you guys?

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01:49:42,652 --> 01:49:43,053
Speaker 3: You good?

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01:49:43,093 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 36: God?

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01:49:43,333 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 3: What do you got well?

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01:49:45,173 --> 01:49:47,572
Speaker 37: For the Matt and Tyler Afternoon Club, I've got to

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01:49:47,612 --> 01:49:52,333
Speaker 37: go with I've got to go with Tyler. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 37: just the you know, you do realize that's actually a story.

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01:49:55,812 --> 01:49:58,732
Speaker 37: The soul songs actually a story about a shooting in

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01:49:58,772 --> 01:50:00,253
Speaker 37: a school in America, don't you?

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01:50:00,532 --> 01:50:02,612
Speaker 2: I have heard that it doesn't for that topic at all?

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01:50:02,732 --> 01:50:04,253
Speaker 2: Does just does a song for the.

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01:50:04,173 --> 01:50:08,173
Speaker 3: Topic, Thank you very much.

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01:50:08,412 --> 01:50:10,692
Speaker 2: One apiece, sit in the topical tune.

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01:50:10,853 --> 01:50:14,772
Speaker 3: All right, let's go Greg, How you doing his names?

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01:50:15,692 --> 01:50:16,333
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

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01:50:16,652 --> 01:50:16,932
Speaker 9: Matt?

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Speaker 33: Matte mate?

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01:50:19,772 --> 01:50:25,213
Speaker 4: To get away from things that you have no influence over?

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01:50:25,372 --> 01:50:28,293
Speaker 4: Unfortunately none of us like Monday.

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01:50:28,452 --> 01:50:30,012
Speaker 6: So Tylie you're the man.

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01:50:30,173 --> 01:50:35,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, beauty, i'steah right. Two to me one to Matt's

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Speaker 3: O eight one hundred and eighty and eighty. If you

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01:50:37,692 --> 01:50:41,972
Speaker 3: can't get through, keep trying, get a mic. Okay, phellows

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01:50:43,452 --> 01:50:49,133
Speaker 3: Happy Friday. What are you thinking, mag man?

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01:50:49,293 --> 01:50:51,732
Speaker 28: I think Joe Biden still wants to rule the world.

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01:50:54,692 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. So you're picking man with Maddy? A

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01:50:58,093 --> 01:51:02,052
Speaker 3: nice one, all two apiece? All right, it all comes

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01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:03,132
Speaker 3: down to the next caller.

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01:51:04,133 --> 01:51:05,932
Speaker 2: I don't know if Joe Biden is ruling anything at

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01:51:05,933 --> 01:51:06,253
Speaker 2: the moment.

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01:51:08,532 --> 01:51:11,852
Speaker 3: James, Mate, it all comes down to you, buddy. No

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01:51:11,893 --> 01:51:13,412
Speaker 3: apprecia wakes you a lot.

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01:51:13,412 --> 01:51:17,773
Speaker 6: Appreciate It's gonna be everybody's everybody.

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01:51:17,372 --> 01:51:24,053
Speaker 3: Wants James, thank you so much, like you, James, I

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01:51:24,093 --> 01:51:24,892
Speaker 3: still do You're all right?

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01:51:25,933 --> 01:51:29,412
Speaker 35: Way to finish the week with an absolute banger, that

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01:51:29,853 --> 01:51:35,452
Speaker 35: driving baseline unreal, designed to be listening to while you well,

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01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:36,173
Speaker 35: you're in your car.

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01:51:36,253 --> 01:51:37,852
Speaker 3: All right, well done, take it away.

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01:51:37,893 --> 01:51:41,213
Speaker 2: It's so topical, it's a listen so good congratulations me.

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01:51:49,973 --> 01:51:50,452
Speaker 7: Well.

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01:52:02,812 --> 01:52:29,173
Speaker 8: We will, man, it's.

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01:52:29,053 --> 01:52:39,372
Speaker 16: My sign, it's my only help me to the sun,

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01:52:41,412 --> 01:52:43,013
Speaker 16: help me make the.

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01:52:44,612 --> 01:52:50,533
Speaker 34: Reading last.

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01:53:03,253 --> 01:53:16,052
Speaker 36: Start so godly a spade so soundly?

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01:53:16,173 --> 01:54:34,293
Speaker 34: Too bad was the sad.

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01:54:47,173 --> 01:54:49,973
Speaker 29: Jo that.

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01:54:52,533 --> 01:54:54,173
Speaker 34: Fad body.

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01:55:26,812 --> 01:55:32,533
Speaker 2: ShW wow from songs from the Big Cheer Everybody Wants

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01:55:32,613 --> 01:55:34,493
Speaker 2: to Rule the World Tears for.

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01:55:34,733 --> 01:55:37,973
Speaker 3: Fears losers here, So well done, mate, well done. I

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01:55:38,013 --> 01:55:40,253
Speaker 3: mean it does annoy me that you're up, but well done. Yeah,

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01:55:40,413 --> 01:55:42,493
Speaker 3: good tune and on a really good movie. Actually, just

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01:55:42,533 --> 01:55:45,653
Speaker 3: before that, we Afectoid Ready Player, one great great movie.

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01:55:45,973 --> 01:55:46,133
Speaker 22: Yeah.

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01:55:46,133 --> 01:55:48,053
Speaker 2: I watched a documentary on the song just the other day.

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01:55:48,293 --> 01:55:50,213
Speaker 2: And Tears for Fears hadn't had a hit in the States,

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01:55:50,213 --> 01:55:53,772
Speaker 2: and the record company really wanted them to, so they

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01:55:54,213 --> 01:55:56,173
Speaker 2: and they wanted a song that could be played in

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01:55:56,293 --> 01:56:00,012
Speaker 2: drive time radio, so they wrote that song from that basis.

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01:56:00,053 --> 01:56:01,852
Speaker 2: They just had the line everybody wants to rule the world,

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01:56:01,893 --> 01:56:04,093
Speaker 2: and they work the lyrics back from that and they

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01:56:04,213 --> 01:56:08,613
Speaker 2: just came up with the dun't just purely for radio.

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01:56:08,733 --> 01:56:10,933
Speaker 2: So that's how that's how calculated they were with that

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01:56:11,053 --> 01:56:14,173
Speaker 2: song that they came up with an absolute banger And

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01:56:14,333 --> 01:56:16,493
Speaker 2: thank you for your votes on one hundred and eighty

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01:56:16,493 --> 01:56:18,533
Speaker 2: ten eighty. What a great win and just what a

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01:56:18,573 --> 01:56:20,533
Speaker 2: great way for me to win. To end the week,

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01:56:20,573 --> 01:56:21,453
Speaker 2: I'm feeling amazing.

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01:56:21,573 --> 01:56:24,533
Speaker 3: Well, all done mate, We'll do it all again next Friday.

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01:56:24,733 --> 01:56:27,092
Speaker 3: It is seven minutes to four Back in the moth.

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01:56:28,413 --> 01:56:31,733
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You

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Speaker 3: on News Talk ZB four Am Sunday. Elliott Smith with

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Speaker 3: the call looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: That the cure, the new album's out today, fantastic, This

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Speaker 2: is a fragile thing. Yeah, have a great weekend everyone.

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01:56:56,013 --> 01:56:58,213
Speaker 3: We will see you again next week. Have a great

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01:56:58,293 --> 01:57:00,373
Speaker 3: rest of your weekend.

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01:57:00,053 --> 01:57:02,573
Speaker 2: And give them a taste of kiwi from me.

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Speaker 10: You can do.

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Speaker 3: To chang us aid

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