Speaker 1: It's the flavor podcast network.
Speaker 2: Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 3: This one's for the Brown brothers and sisters who want
Speaker 3: to be one with themselves, their culture, their identity, their roots.
Speaker 2: This is Island Roots, Auckland Ways.
Speaker 3: Judy Baby, Hello, everyone, welcome back to another episode of
Speaker 3: Island Roots, Orkland Ways.
Speaker 2: How are you todays?
Speaker 4: Very well? We have been very well. I'm actually a
Speaker 4: little bit yeah.
Speaker 5: I am going to call in sick tomorrow and we're
Speaker 5: just having a conversation off the mic. Now. We wanted
Speaker 5: to do this very short into and out, so let
Speaker 5: me get to the chase. Use it.
Speaker 4: Damn sick days.
Speaker 2: Use your sick days. If you have a sick day,
Speaker 2: just use it. It's all good.
Speaker 3: Someone who I feel like doesn't really ever take a
Speaker 3: day off though, as our guest this week, which is
Speaker 3: Charlie for me, the.
Speaker 5: Bro is on twenty four truly bro. Sometimes this guy
Speaker 5: will be sleeping at two eight.
Speaker 2: Wild crazy to me.
Speaker 3: I guess it's different when you're appearing. I don't know,
Speaker 3: do you have a different pool of energy to pull from?
Speaker 4: Girl? I don't. I don't want to even I can't
Speaker 4: even comprehend that ship.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he's our chat with Charlie.
Speaker 5: Now, welcome back to Alan routs Auckland Ways, the Legionum
Speaker 5: the man himself.
Speaker 4: That's Charlie for man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie guys, I've always wanted to be in
Speaker 1: the show because want to talk about coming. We talk
Speaker 1: about the show all the time every morning, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do we talk about this but I'm never invited.
Speaker 1: I'm finally here Bright, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 5: Listen, Man, why don't you want other boys but me?
Speaker 2: Charlie's thinking, what's the hype about the show? Why are
Speaker 2: we talking about this so much?
Speaker 1: You know why? Because that's an award winning show. This
Speaker 1: on period period.
Speaker 4: Be specific podcast, what do you know about any who?
Speaker 3: Every episode, Charlie, we start with what we love about Home. Essentially,
Speaker 3: we're just going to talk about everything that we love
Speaker 3: about home. It could be something small, like a favorite
Speaker 3: meal that you used to have growing up, or it
Speaker 3: could be something from the current place that you live
Speaker 3: in and money do it period. But we'll let meds
Speaker 3: start first so you can get a feel for how
Speaker 3: it rolls.
Speaker 5: I love when my neighbors are ont home. Speaking of neighbors,
Speaker 5: we were talking about neighbors.
Speaker 4: So I've got a.
Speaker 5: Sheer driveway, three houses with a third house, so we're
Speaker 5: at the end. And I help my neighbor's car last
Speaker 5: week because it's crazy something. First the first house or
Speaker 5: the driveway, they're all good because.
Speaker 4: If you have a garage, you park the cars and.
Speaker 5: The garage second house. For some reason, they want to
Speaker 5: show off their cars. So they've got a double garage
Speaker 5: camp for two cars, and they park their two cars
Speaker 5: directly outside of the garage.
Speaker 1: Doore, You're right, that's that's showing off.
Speaker 5: And because we are a sheer driveway, if they're parking
Speaker 5: like that, we have the narrower space to get in
Speaker 5: and out.
Speaker 4: And so I help my neighbor's car coming out the
Speaker 4: other day.
Speaker 1: Good job.
Speaker 4: And because I'm a nice person, I said, you know what.
Speaker 5: I'm going to pay for your trick ass CA. So
Speaker 5: I lift a note and then they confronted me that night,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, here we go confronted. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and they were like knock knock, hello, hello, and me
Speaker 5: and my flapmate were out on the deck. Come out, Oh,
Speaker 5: so is this your four wheel drive here? And I'm like,
Speaker 5: yes it is. And he's like, oh, did you do this?
Speaker 5: And I was like yes, But as I see it
Speaker 5: in the note, I'm willing to pay for whatever peers
Speaker 5: need to be done being the license pent.
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. Love the neighbors.
Speaker 5: I don't know them, but I don't want to see
Speaker 5: your Honda. What's the show off about a Honda bra.
Speaker 1: A Honda all this time? Off what you're saying, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: they've got a Ferrari hold a parking Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's just what a ranger of MS. I do not
Speaker 5: want to see there. Nobody want to see that spoiler.
Speaker 5: That's somebody.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you agreed to pay for the damage,
Speaker 3: because then I feel like they're gonna put out their
Speaker 3: receipt and be like oh yeah and then this yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might start pulling a quick one.
Speaker 5: I did take a photo, okay, and you know I
Speaker 5: hit the car because I was on my way to
Speaker 5: bf T and so I was, for my first time
Speaker 5: saying bf T have a drink every time every time
Speaker 5: we say bf T. So I'm trying to get to
Speaker 5: my six forty five class. Think the car, car alarm
Speaker 5: goes off, lights are flashing, and I'm like, am I
Speaker 5: gonna run away from this.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I got out, took a photo and I waited for
Speaker 5: them to come out because the car alum was loudest.
Speaker 5: Then come out, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna miss my class.
Speaker 1: You know what, But you're a good citizen. If that
Speaker 1: was me and I had to choose between putting a
Speaker 1: note out on a car or get to my bf
Speaker 1: T class, you know where I'm going.
Speaker 4: He's going to give this PX sire, He's going to
Speaker 4: get that gold.
Speaker 1: Middle already through the roof from the streets.
Speaker 4: Anyway. That's what I love about home when my neighbors
Speaker 4: aren't home, I love it for you.
Speaker 3: What I love about home this week is actually three
Speaker 3: houses down song Charlie song the Dream, which is one
Speaker 3: of my most favorite songs of all time. There's something
Speaker 3: I wish I could drive so I could put that
Speaker 3: song on and like be in my car, have like
Speaker 3: a reflective moment about my dreams and my goals and
Speaker 3: life the visions I have. But I love that song, Charlie,
Speaker 3: such a good song.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I'll tell you guys about that song
Speaker 1: later on. But something that I love about home two
Speaker 1: weeks ago and this is my family home we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of going to my parents' house.
Speaker 1: It was a Sunday night, and you know, this little
Speaker 1: memory came back that we were all sitting in the lounge,
Speaker 1: Me and my siblings and our kids were all just
Speaker 1: playing in the lounge and jumping up and down on
Speaker 1: the on the chairs and things like that. And I
Speaker 1: go to my sister, bro we would have got the
Speaker 1: biggest hiding. We were jumping on the on the couches
Speaker 1: and things like that in the lounge. But there was
Speaker 1: no such thing as playing bull rush in the lounge, man,
Speaker 1: you know. And then my mom was moving up Sweet
Speaker 1: Rice Okay, so this was our this was our go
Speaker 1: to every Sundays, eight thirty pm. That will be sweet
Speaker 1: Rice come out on a plate and we're watching like
Speaker 1: a show you know what I mean, on TV with
Speaker 1: its sister act or whatever the show was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was playing Rachel and thing.
Speaker 1: You know. So then we'll have our sweet Rice and
Speaker 1: then you'll get one of us that will get up
Speaker 1: and try and act out you know, from the movie
Speaker 1: and things like that. And it brought back those sweet memories,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. While my parents are still alive.
Speaker 1: Our children get to come to my parents house and
Speaker 1: they all play and my siblings are all there, So
Speaker 1: that's for me. It is a blessing. And I love
Speaker 1: that about my home that we could always take the
Speaker 1: children there and the kids there when we don't have
Speaker 1: a babysit. You know, I saw this whole carry on
Speaker 1: and the sweet rice just makes it just that so
Speaker 1: much more better.
Speaker 2: That's so special life, the circle of life.
Speaker 5: Your parents must be so happy when the grandkids are
Speaker 5: all over at the house.
Speaker 1: They love it because you know, my parents stay at
Speaker 1: home by themselves, so it's it is pretty quiet at
Speaker 1: their house. So you're getting mom and day calling hey,
Speaker 1: bring the kids over and are you sure? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: bring the magazines. Quiet, Y's just me and your mom.
Speaker 1: We go to take the kids over there. Man, I
Speaker 1: swear only about forty five minutes. Hey, we are used
Speaker 1: you to come pick up your kids. Hang on, you've
Speaker 1: been calling me?
Speaker 5: Then where are you the mina switch up?
Speaker 4: Well, we love that, Charlie. We want to talk about.
Speaker 5: Your role on Flavor Breakfast Stacas Zorah and Charlie, you
Speaker 5: are the Charlie and there, how have you been settling
Speaker 5: ins al radio.
Speaker 4: How have you been finding it?
Speaker 1: You know what as I'm still trying to find my feet.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those things. I love this
Speaker 1: job because I'm learning something new every day and it's
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes in my previous jobs, I'd wake up
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, bro, what am I doing? You know,
Speaker 1: your your drive to work every morning, but you have
Speaker 1: your wives and your pro But here, like I feel
Speaker 1: that this is more of I don't see it as
Speaker 1: a job, you know, it's I have fun here. So
Speaker 1: I say this to my wife. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what to call this if it's if it's a job,
Speaker 1: or we're just coming in and just say spin some
Speaker 1: yngs and put some life into people. So like trying
Speaker 1: to find my way around here, navigating Yeah, the space.
Speaker 1: It's it's quite interesting, and it's challenging for myself because
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this off air. I can
Speaker 1: sit here and just spin a yarn all day long,
Speaker 1: you know, and for hours and hours and hours. But
Speaker 1: radio is completely different. It's it's more structured. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know these little nicknames. You know, I'm still.
Speaker 6: What's a break?
Speaker 1: What's this? What's you know? So it's when I'm looking
Speaker 1: at our our at our breakfast sheet in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, well, okay, what's this?
Speaker 4: What's this?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still asking myself these questions. And I've
Speaker 1: been in this role for about like eight months now.
Speaker 1: That's pretty fascinting, man. Or yeah, six six to eight months,
Speaker 1: I think it is. But you know, I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to be in this, in this in this realm where
Speaker 1: you know, in radio. Because on our Instagram, I usually
Speaker 1: had the segment on Fridays, you know how we have
Speaker 1: but like here we have every Fridays we have Friday Fields. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we pack our favorite song. So I had like Friday.
Speaker 1: It wasn't called Friday Fields. I've got what it was called.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll go on my Instagram and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, hey, welcome back here, blah blah blah. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So this is our song for
Speaker 1: the Friday Man to pick your guys up. So I
Speaker 1: used to have my little segments and people usually get
Speaker 1: if you have a song, man throw it in the dms,
Speaker 1: requist it, and it was like that, and they used
Speaker 1: to go off every Fridays. So then I was like Hey,
Speaker 1: this could be a thing, and never in a million
Speaker 1: years that I think that will turn into something like
Speaker 1: sitting here at Flavor Radio and being a radio host.
Speaker 5: People will know you as the lead singer of Three
Speaker 5: Houses Down, which was born twenty years ago two thousand
Speaker 5: and four.
Speaker 2: I was four.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: So take us through those beginning days of Three Houses Down.
Speaker 5: How did you decide whats your bros? That you wanted
Speaker 5: to start this up?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So how it started? We were always singing in choirs.
Speaker 1: My grandfather's a choir master. My dad as a choir master,
Speaker 1: and he wanted us to take a different route in
Speaker 1: terms of music. And there was a tellingquist night that
Speaker 1: happened and it was a church one, and my dad
Speaker 1: put our names through and we entered. But we were
Speaker 1: just gonna go do a cappella like Bois and Me star,
Speaker 1: you know. And my dad was like, no, that's boring, man.
Speaker 1: You guys do that all the time, quartet styles, you know,
Speaker 1: with church and fire size and things like that. Why
Speaker 1: don't you got to start a band? We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: what imaginary instruments?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: We had no instruments nothing. I didn't even know how
Speaker 1: to play an instrument. And that's why I could like
Speaker 1: relate to that movie because it's it's maybe a tonguein thing.
Speaker 1: So then my dad, you know, being my dad, he
Speaker 1: walked three houses up and this house had like all
Speaker 1: the instruments. They had drums, keyboard, everything, and they come
Speaker 1: from like a Presbyterian background, so they all know how
Speaker 1: to play instruments and they are gun musos. So my
Speaker 1: dad went over there and he's to the tongue and
Speaker 1: guy and he's like, man, my kids are are looking
Speaker 1: at entering this telling quist night and we're wondering whether
Speaker 1: you know your kids can help them out. And then
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, sure, you're beening them up. So we
Speaker 1: went up and we played the songs to these guys.
Speaker 1: International played the song this is a song we want
Speaker 1: to learn, can you guys play? It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: started listening. Okay, sweet, this is how like gun of
Speaker 1: musics these guys are. They picked it up within like
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen minutes every night. Yeah exactly. We ran three
Speaker 1: songs with these guys, and I was like, holy heck,
Speaker 1: this is it. Yeah, bro, I want to do this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So then and then as
Speaker 1: time went on, we into this, telling Chris Night we
Speaker 1: want it, and then the father of the children were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys should just start a band.
Speaker 1: And I was like, m yes and no, because you know,
Speaker 1: I was still playing sports at this time, and in
Speaker 1: my mind I wanted to be an All Black or
Speaker 1: played in the Warriors, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: music was in the back burners really, and then we're
Speaker 1: doing the music thing on the side and still playing sports.
Speaker 1: And then it got to a point where because he's
Speaker 1: a Presbyterian pastor, and he said to us, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: the music that you guys are playing is it's the
Speaker 1: Devil's music reggae. You know, like, you guys are talking
Speaker 1: about drugs and I'm not really you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about loving all that. But he's like, look, I have
Speaker 1: a different vision for my children. Maybe you guys need
Speaker 1: to go off and do you guys own things and
Speaker 1: a nice way.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: So then we went three houses down back to my parents'
Speaker 1: house and I was like, bro, what are we going
Speaker 1: to do? Like, you know, we're sort of half committed
Speaker 1: to this and I want to go you know, I
Speaker 1: want to take it to a certain place, but you know,
Speaker 1: and my dad felt sorry for us. We couldn't afford
Speaker 1: any instruments or band equipment at this time. A week
Speaker 1: from the time we were dismissed from three houses up,
Speaker 1: my dad was then made redundant from his job. So
Speaker 1: he worked there for about thirty plus years. So this
Speaker 1: was back in the super annuation days. And like every
Speaker 1: cent that my dad was paid out from his thirty
Speaker 1: plus years or service, like, rather than putting it into
Speaker 1: a into a mortgage and all the bills and so forth,
Speaker 1: he pumped it all into band equipment. Wow. I swear
Speaker 1: like every cent like this almost caused a divorce between
Speaker 1: my mom exactly, you know, taking it, you know, take
Speaker 1: it up to to my mom or to his wife
Speaker 1: to discuss as there was just straight night. We're pumping
Speaker 1: this into the kids. So that was an investment into
Speaker 1: into us, you know, and the music. So we're sitting
Speaker 1: we're sitting out in the lounge and we've seen this
Speaker 1: big truck with us into our driveway. We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's what's happening here?
Speaker 4: We go out.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you guys at the right house?
Speaker 1: And the guy goes, yeah, we're dropping off equipment. Band equipments, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't remember getting anything like that, you know. My
Speaker 1: dad not long after pull up, was like, yah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: drop put it all off. He was like what are
Speaker 1: you doing. He's like, you guys are going to start
Speaker 1: a band. I was like, oh, boys, it's on. You
Speaker 1: gotta remember there was no YouTube nothing, so we didn't
Speaker 1: know how to set up a PA gear. So this
Speaker 1: was freaking and we're like, where are we gonna put
Speaker 1: all this equipment. We didn't even have a band house
Speaker 1: or a garage or anything. So my dad goes, don't
Speaker 1: worrying about that. We went to my mom's work. They
Speaker 1: just imported this factory, this big machine my mom was
Speaker 1: making plastic back in the days from Italy, and it
Speaker 1: came in with all this four by two like like
Speaker 1: nice timber everything. So my dad said, every day after school,
Speaker 1: what we're going to do is we're going to go
Speaker 1: and strip that timber and we're going to use that
Speaker 1: to build the band room. Oh my god, yeah yeah
Speaker 1: straight up. So my brother was doing construction, like, you know,
Speaker 1: showed after school, so he knew he had a fair
Speaker 1: idea on how to build things. So we ended up
Speaker 1: building the band room learned how to set up a PA.
Speaker 1: But then it was like it took us two years
Speaker 1: to sort of you know, get our get our a
Speaker 1: enterg learned songs and did a whole lot of work,
Speaker 1: broke a whole lot of money in the garage before
Speaker 1: we actually went out. So you know, two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: you know, the name three Houses Down was established, and
Speaker 1: our very first gig was in two thousand and four
Speaker 1: and Tully it was like we made Hollywood our first
Speaker 1: ever gig. I remember, like as if it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: We go to set up and this was in Maut
Speaker 1: Wellington on the corner of Mount Wellington Highway in Panama.
Speaker 1: Rodi used to be a pub called the Duke of
Speaker 1: Wellington back in the day before it was all cream
Speaker 1: Cafe and all these.
Speaker 5: Right there opposite the Windys.
Speaker 1: That used to be a pub called the Duke of Wellington,
Speaker 1: right And that was our very first ever gig in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. This is when we said to
Speaker 1: each other in the garage, but I think we're ready,
Speaker 1: We're ready to do this. We went door knocking around
Speaker 1: all these pubs in South Auckland and nobody gave us
Speaker 1: a shot because one they didn't know who we were.
Speaker 1: We're way too young. I was only like fifteen at
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, So then we went to Windy's and
Speaker 1: me and my brother sat there. We had fries between
Speaker 1: shared between four people. The struggle was real, man, and
Speaker 1: we looked across the road. We're like, but we haven't
Speaker 1: tried this pub. So then we went over there and
Speaker 1: the funny thing was the guy the duty manager at
Speaker 1: the pub at Duke of Wellington at this time was
Speaker 1: my brother's old rugby league manager. So yeah, we had
Speaker 1: it in and we said to him, look, this is
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're wanting to get a gig in
Speaker 1: like you know, just even if it's forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: We don't want any money, et cetera, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: he goes, you know what, Saturday, you boys, seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: I'll give you guys a slot on Saturday. We set up,
Speaker 1: had a sound check, went home. Six o'clock. We left
Speaker 1: all to go to Jacob Wellington. As we pulled up
Speaker 1: into the driveway, We've seen all these bikes, like motorcycles.
Speaker 1: We're like, holy heck, this is a motorcycle show. Wow. Oh,
Speaker 1: brothers just gets better and better it was packed pack.
Speaker 1: So we were like high fiving each other in the
Speaker 1: van like yeah we got this, yeh. We hop out
Speaker 1: of the van, were walking. Bro, it was a sea
Speaker 1: of black powers.
Speaker 4: So it was like because of.
Speaker 1: So so it was like a like an event they
Speaker 1: had over there and were walking and we're like, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, oh my.
Speaker 1: I do not want to die, like that was a
Speaker 1: fifteen year old kid.
Speaker 4: One off note, it's all done.
Speaker 1: So then we get on and we're like, hikay, we're
Speaker 1: three houses down and bro, like you know, the crowd
Speaker 1: was just dead and looking at us like, bro, are
Speaker 1: you guys going to play anything? You know, guys, we
Speaker 1: played right four hour and bro, the party was lit,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys. So then we get and this
Speaker 1: is me saying like going to like a whole group
Speaker 1: of black palts, Hey, thank you guys. This will be
Speaker 1: our last one for the night. And then you get
Speaker 1: one guy from the back. No, this is where I
Speaker 1: and then I looked to the bar. My brother's manager
Speaker 1: at the time was like, you know, giving us a
Speaker 1: signal carry on, carry on, bro, I said to my
Speaker 1: brother been. So you know what we did. We ended
Speaker 1: up playing songs back to front, and like we ended
Speaker 1: up playing for four hours, man, twelve songs, four hours.
Speaker 1: But it just went to show that they knew that
Speaker 1: this was our first gig and they welcomed us with
Speaker 1: open arms, you know, after a couple of songs in
Speaker 1: and it was probably like the best experience because you know,
Speaker 1: for me, like to have that type of experience off
Speaker 1: the bat, like adult first gig. Bro, you can never
Speaker 1: go back from that, hey, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: you're playing to black pearls and hope and hopes that
Speaker 1: your next crowd is going to be like just.
Speaker 3: Your Wow, that's incredible. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3: When I was fifteen, I had zero backbone, so I've
Speaker 3: been like shaking in my books.
Speaker 1: I was like holy for the But they ended up
Speaker 1: being you know, ended up being one of the best
Speaker 1: gigs too. Yeah, maybe because it was our first one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's not what people think, you know, with
Speaker 1: all these Patch members. For these people were having a
Speaker 1: good time. They were respectful, family, family, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it was it was really good. And
Speaker 1: then at the end of the night, like bro, they
Speaker 1: helped us pack down. It was really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, someone whose dad was in the Black
Speaker 5: Power And I remember my mate was telling me, Oh,
Speaker 5: you know, when I was a baby, we used to
Speaker 5: have all these ice cream containers, and so they would
Speaker 5: stack they would stack all these ice cream containers around
Speaker 5: the garage, and I would always be curious as to
Speaker 5: whether or not I should open them. He was like
Speaker 5: four or five at the time. It opens one of
Speaker 5: the containers and there's a bunch of trucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we love Yeah, Charlie, I'm assuming that those
Speaker 3: Team twelve songs were not songs that you had written,
Speaker 3: but a lot of the three Houses Down songs that
Speaker 3: you do have, and the discography written by yourself or
Speaker 3: your family.
Speaker 2: At what point were you like, I want to start
Speaker 2: writing songs.
Speaker 3: I think I I'm reading to write some lyrics.
Speaker 1: You know what, when I was, when I was young,
Speaker 1: I still love writing, Like maybe my my English is
Speaker 1: not the best, but I just used to love writing,
Speaker 1: like Haiku's poems and things like that, which was funny,
Speaker 1: like in primary and a lot of my my my
Speaker 1: teacher is then for this is year? What year would
Speaker 1: that be? Six years?
Speaker 4: Six?
Speaker 1: Missus Griffiths, She said to me, but you're going to
Speaker 1: be a great poet one day Charlie, you know, so
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't think anything of it because,
Speaker 1: you know, asked as a as a Pacific islander, we
Speaker 1: didn't embrace anything like that at their time. So I
Speaker 1: just thought, I don't do that because you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: playing supports, everyone's playing rugby or rugby league. That was
Speaker 1: like the stigma behind the whole thing is like that
Speaker 1: I don't want to be their guy. But like at
Speaker 1: a young age, I knew that, you know, writing was
Speaker 1: where my strength was. And I used to write leaders
Speaker 1: to Okay, I used to writ leaders to girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it voiced them in lyrics, but then you know, confusing.
Speaker 1: It was a bit of my stuff as well, and
Speaker 1: and it really captured a lot of you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of you know girls back then. The attention, yeah, attention,
Speaker 1: but you know, nothing happened, but they just thought, man,
Speaker 1: this boy is so sweet, like just through the writing.
Speaker 1: But then it was like I used to write songs
Speaker 1: when I was like in college, when I was at
Speaker 1: Saint Paul's, I was already writing music. But then again
Speaker 1: I just didn't know how to put everything together. It
Speaker 1: wasn't until I finished school and I was at work.
Speaker 1: One day, I was listening to a bit of you
Speaker 1: before they in the car and I had there was
Speaker 1: no like, there was no iPhones or anything to write
Speaker 1: on your notes. I had a one B five book
Speaker 1: that was in there, but inside the one B fire
Speaker 1: book was like all these big go notes and yeah,
Speaker 1: I just started writing, like you know, the inspiration came
Speaker 1: through listening to some U before then or that. I
Speaker 1: just started writing. And then it wasn't until after work.
Speaker 1: One day I was sitting in traffic and I was
Speaker 1: just humming along and I got the one befire book
Speaker 1: and I just started putting the lyrics and the melody together.
Speaker 1: And then one night, you know, I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: when it came to we did the song called dandy Man,
Speaker 1: and the lyrics was actually given to us by a
Speaker 1: guy named Wooded me Pudity rest in Peace, And I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, let me try it with his lyrics first
Speaker 1: and see if my melodies can fit in the lyrics,
Speaker 1: and then I can probably apply that to my own stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then when I did that, I was like, holy heck, bro,
Speaker 1: this is like I had a talent that I didn't
Speaker 1: know about. You know what I'm saying, and I unlocked
Speaker 1: that talent because I was just sick of singing other
Speaker 1: people's songs. And yeah, one thing led to another. I
Speaker 1: just started writing, putting melodies, writing putting melodies together, and
Speaker 1: I just started writing for other people and including general
Speaker 1: fire as well. And then that just went to another
Speaker 1: level and little man forgot about me.
Speaker 4: And now he's famous one.
Speaker 1: I mean, or that came to like came to light
Speaker 1: from a very young age, you know, writing. So I
Speaker 1: still write right up to now, like it's just and
Speaker 1: I don't use it. I don't use my iPhone. I
Speaker 1: think I like to just write old pens paper and
Speaker 1: see it that way, like how you did the first time,
Speaker 1: like the first time, and that works for me. I've
Speaker 1: tried writing on my iPhone with the notes, but it's
Speaker 1: it just doesn't hit as I don't know, do you
Speaker 1: guys get what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly what.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to hold feel, you know. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: just got to keep it to that old school because
Speaker 1: that's the only way I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when I was writing my master's dissertation,
Speaker 3: I felt like I've basically hand wrote the whole dissertation
Speaker 3: before I typed it up because I felt like I
Speaker 3: could just flow so much better when I was handwriting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you're just like typing it on your
Speaker 3: phone or on the laptop, I feel like you limit
Speaker 3: yourself to what you're thinking of. It's almost harder to
Speaker 3: like think a bit more creatively and beyond what.
Speaker 1: You're You're right, I think that's it. I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't really put the words together. But it's the flow.
Speaker 1: And you know, at these more feel into writing as
Speaker 1: opposed to typing all your stuff.
Speaker 3: And yeah, do you have a favorite song.
Speaker 2: That you've ever written.
Speaker 1: I I wrote a song for my wife and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it was one of those songs I write the
Speaker 1: song maybe, but then like the space of ten minutes, Wow,
Speaker 1: you know we're going through we're going through a little
Speaker 1: rough patch in relationship band And I think those are
Speaker 1: the magical moments when it comes to writing or just
Speaker 1: anything in general, when you're going through a hard time.
Speaker 1: And while I was going through this hard time, bro,
Speaker 1: like these words are just coming to my head, I
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA, I didn't know I even knew that
Speaker 1: coming to my head, Like and are you sure that
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know. So, like the song is called She's.
Speaker 4: My Woman and I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like so fast, and I put the
Speaker 1: song together quite quick, and I was just going to
Speaker 1: do it as an acoustic star. And then I actually
Speaker 1: prayed the played the song to spawn Breeze's manager to
Speaker 1: see at this time his name was Rob Alot to
Speaker 1: see what his thoughts to him, and he was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I can hear spawn Breezy on
Speaker 1: this song. And I was like really, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I get you cool then, brother, Well if
Speaker 1: you feel that, you know, he's he's going to do
Speaker 1: the song justice thing and by all means send it
Speaker 1: to him. So he sings a song to spawn Breezy,
Speaker 1: and spawn Breezey seems it back and I'm like, oh, dear, okay,
Speaker 1: this guy has just gone and take the song to
Speaker 1: another level man, Like, you know, it almost feels like
Speaker 1: it's a Spawn Breezy featuring Charlie. So yeah, and and
Speaker 1: that's probably to the day was still one of my
Speaker 1: favorite songs because when I played it back to she
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is this is amazing, you know,
Speaker 1: and it just brings us back to that whole when
Speaker 1: words fail, music speaks.
Speaker 5: Can I just say, by the way, your wife is stuning,
Speaker 5: I love seeing me.
Speaker 1: But you know what, man, I'm sick of people saying, Bro, Charlie, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're punching. Okay. Yeah, I'm very lucky, you know, to
Speaker 1: have a strong faith woman like she's strong in her faith.
Speaker 1: You know, she's a great mother, great wife. She does
Speaker 1: pretty much everything for us, you know. And I'm very
Speaker 1: lucky to to be your husband. Play this episode.
Speaker 4: You love being a dad? Yeah, you have three sons.
Speaker 1: I have my three boys, Rob Poline, not anymore. That's
Speaker 1: that's what to be honest.
Speaker 4: Are we going to get a girl? Girl?
Speaker 1: Listen, Once I get a girl, it's over.
Speaker 4: It's over. It's over.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm going to say. You boys, go
Speaker 1: to your mom, me and my daughter. I just want
Speaker 1: a daughter. Then that's I'm hanging the boots. We're done.
Speaker 1: But like you know, saying, he's not quite really it
Speaker 1: because she's in a whole, you know, in this healthy
Speaker 1: like at the moment. So she's she's doing that and
Speaker 1: I wanted to do a thing, you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to all of a sudden, she's lost all
Speaker 1: this weight then hey, you need to have a baby,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I wanted to enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: wanted to enjoy it in the meantime until you know,
Speaker 1: until she's really then hopefully hopefully you know, got all
Speaker 1: the aunties. You guys need to do it at this time.
Speaker 1: You got to wait until it's full moon or I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like that talent how to do Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Then then answer yeah cool.
Speaker 4: Cool, until then you have you still have a little one.
Speaker 4: No he's so little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's four, and you know he's not so
Speaker 1: much our little baby. Now this guy thinks he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's four turning two any one. This ye, he's at
Speaker 1: a point like you know what I love about my
Speaker 1: son not is that he reminds us on the on
Speaker 1: the daily. You know, he doesn't speak, it's hard from
Speaker 1: the string of sentence, but you know, like through his
Speaker 1: actions like he's like daddy, Jesus, Jesus, and he's putting
Speaker 1: his hands like the praying emoji. So then I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, this guy is telling us that
Speaker 1: we need to pray, you know, like he says, okay,
Speaker 1: we need to do this. Sometimes you know, as parents,
Speaker 1: we teach our children, but we often learn from them
Speaker 1: as well, you know, and my children teach me that
Speaker 1: all the time. Like sometimes my kids swishing. My older boy,
Speaker 1: he's like, dad, man, you need to stop doing that
Speaker 1: on the radio. It's quite cringe. You hold to chick
Speaker 1: you check. If I tell them make me anything, they
Speaker 1: will chick it first. And if it's something that doesn't
Speaker 1: sit right, well, they're broadcasting standards the right with them,
Speaker 1: then they're not going to reshare it. They give me
Speaker 1: the scene and then I'll be like, you guys didn't
Speaker 1: share that. They're like, because it's cringe, but you need
Speaker 1: to stop going on there and doing this, doing that,
Speaker 1: doing this because my son's they used to feature heart
Speaker 1: out on my Instagram exactly, but now they're just like, bro,
Speaker 1: they bro live in the moment, moment. Put your phone down.
Speaker 1: I put the phone down, like, bro, don't you dare
Speaker 1: talk to you like.
Speaker 4: That? Man. I remember those days. Yeah, your sons would
Speaker 4: feature on the social media and then it was like
Speaker 4: the videos. Charlie's like yeah, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: I'm not well. They didn't like that.
Speaker 2: I remember, Charlie.
Speaker 3: I used to follow you back in the farm Malosi, so.
Speaker 1: That where it came out like my brothers are doing
Speaker 1: there are better and and I just remember seeing the rock.
Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't really say my loss. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like to farm Losy, Like I'm like, bro, Rock,
Speaker 1: what did you say?
Speaker 4: Farm Looser?
Speaker 1: Just stop that. Yes, it was just like Farmerlosi.
Speaker 5: You could to bring it back, you could have. I
Speaker 5: feel like you've been busy in your radio era. You've
Speaker 5: got to come back into your social media.
Speaker 1: No, man. You know the thing is, man, when when
Speaker 1: you don't post much, people chicken hey, I didn't see post.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, bro, I'm just looking hey. You know.
Speaker 1: And if I if I was like if I'm posting
Speaker 1: out something, I'm working out, then I played like a
Speaker 1: Slow James song, people like hey, Bro, I'm just wondering
Speaker 1: are you okay? Like is he all right? I'll just
Speaker 1: chicken to see if you're okay? Or if you haven't
Speaker 1: posted in a while, Bro, it's been a while, are
Speaker 1: you okay? Just chicken in bro. You know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: happiest people are the ones that you want to chicken on.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to play some.
Speaker 1: Like come on man.
Speaker 4: Well, speaking on working out, bf T.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bf T covert yet I need you both as
Speaker 3: soon as they're bf T King superstars, give me the
Speaker 3: four one one?
Speaker 2: Why do I need to?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. There's a new king in
Speaker 1: the house. Now you are the king. And you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I see you on the airport.
Speaker 4: I see social media team. They picked up.
Speaker 1: Struggling and they came right in your face. I know.
Speaker 1: But bf T what for me personally? There is no
Speaker 1: such thing as clicks, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: like like, because I've been at bf T for a
Speaker 1: year now and I practically know the vast majority of
Speaker 1: the members. You know, I don't do these clicks or
Speaker 1: the members at bf T don't do clicks where now
Speaker 1: we stay together, we don't go talk to the newbie.
Speaker 1: You know. Now at bf T, it's almost like a
Speaker 1: race to see who greets the newbie and you know,
Speaker 1: taking them in and showing them the ropes. And that's
Speaker 1: what I love about it. And I know this for
Speaker 1: a fact that it's that's that's most bf ts are
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe it's I don't know whether they're taught
Speaker 1: to be like that, but it's it's just like that,
Speaker 1: and that's the nature of it. And man, I could
Speaker 1: sit here all day long and talk about it. But then,
Speaker 1: like the saying goes, you can only lead a horse
Speaker 1: to the to the water man.
Speaker 5: They didn't been coming through the sayings today, But.
Speaker 1: I been, I've been. I've been wanting to be on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 5: So I can save you waiting, so join.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know.
Speaker 1: What we got. We've got high rocks. And since you
Speaker 1: just stay down the road for me, I'm picking you up.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: See, I want to pick you up. My listen it
Speaker 1: just come and do one class and then if you
Speaker 1: if you enjoy it, then you enjoy it. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's it's not you one's cup of tea,
Speaker 1: but like for me and Mes, that's our cup of tea,
Speaker 1: it's our coffee. It's out everything that's burn.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did my sixth class this morning, shred.
Speaker 4: It was hard. I've learned so much. Yeah, you should
Speaker 4: join beef.
Speaker 1: T I'm taking it. Honestly, I'm picking up.
Speaker 4: Okay, there we that one.
Speaker 1: I'm picking and I don't care. And if I come
Speaker 1: to your house and you're like not today, I'm like,
Speaker 1: remember that seven year old near the car and the
Speaker 1: car now.
Speaker 5: Move.
Speaker 2: I love that. How are we feeling about moving into
Speaker 2: our game? Marine?
Speaker 3: Okay, well can you introduce it because I'm still near.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what we're going to do, Charlie said, We're
Speaker 5: going to play around of in the ring, which is
Speaker 5: what you play on Flavor Breakfast. So it's going to
Speaker 5: be a battle of residents, Charlie.
Speaker 1: The Friday Final.
Speaker 4: The pressure is getting worse. So I've got three songs here.
Speaker 5: I will play out the instrumentals and your names are
Speaker 5: your buzzers?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, sitting up?
Speaker 3: Okay, is it the name and this of the song
Speaker 3: and like the artist or do we sing?
Speaker 4: I want the song name and the artist name.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I've got three songs here, playing three rounds.
Speaker 3: And it's fixing the the cameras.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go with our first instrumental. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm ready?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa?
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, okay. And your first instrumental, Monica.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
Speaker 2: it again?
Speaker 1: Can I steal it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lissa, Monica, Angel of Mine.
Speaker 1: Show me. I just gave you another.
Speaker 4: And I was listening right now on the booth Am
Speaker 4: I doing it right.
Speaker 1: This is good.
Speaker 5: Okay, she's giving the thumbs up. Okay, alossa one, Charlie,
Speaker 5: nel let's go to our second instrumental.
Speaker 1: Charlie, Yeah, spawn Breezy, don't let go.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm telling that god whoa whoa drink up song
Speaker 4: for that age.
Speaker 1: He was just here, he was just here.
Speaker 5: One yeah, never been to sivil one. Who you're gonna
Speaker 5: take me to? Sing one to?
Speaker 1: Don't worry, I'm taking you guys there. Okay, okay, one, no,
Speaker 1: one more song.
Speaker 4: This is the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2: Melissa Whitney Houston. I don't know the name of the song.
Speaker 4: Charlie, do you know this song?
Speaker 6: I know, Houston, when you walk down the door.
Speaker 4: Here we have mistake. Who's right here?
Speaker 6: I talk a piece of my heart?
Speaker 2: He's lovelydes he's talking about. Then what is the name
Speaker 2: of this song?
Speaker 4: Okay? Is the name?
Speaker 1: Fling?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Love?
Speaker 2: Then saving all my life for you.
Speaker 4: Up sat.
Speaker 6: Love, save my load?
Speaker 5: Congratulations and listening he was so bad.
Speaker 2: Hey, I just run myself a free trip to be a.
Speaker 1: Put it up.
Speaker 4: Okay, Charlie brought me here. Thank you for coming onto the.
Speaker 1: Podcast that made me switch.
Speaker 4: That was the first part of your straight A.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, we're having me. Honestly, it was. It
Speaker 1: was good. I love it.
Speaker 2: I feel so good that I want in the ring.
Speaker 2: Can I just say.
Speaker 4: You didn't and it took me.
Speaker 3: It took us a really long time to get there.
Speaker 3: When you hear some song, but who kires that is crazy?
Speaker 5: AnyWho will catch you next week, catch us on the
Speaker 5: Sociows in the meantime, Bye bye,