1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,013 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B. 2 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:16,213 Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,813 --> 00:00:19,532 Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and 4 00:00:19,573 --> 00:00:31,213 Speaker 2: Tyler Zibi Afternoons podcast for the thirteenth of November four's 5 00:00:31,253 --> 00:00:34,013 Speaker 2: Why is the Best Folks? Great show. Today, we talked 6 00:00:34,013 --> 00:00:36,693 Speaker 2: about the gang Patch ban and we got a pretty 7 00:00:36,693 --> 00:00:39,893 Speaker 2: emotional call from Louise which changed my opinion on it. 8 00:00:39,933 --> 00:00:41,893 Speaker 2: So let's look out for that. And then we got 9 00:00:41,933 --> 00:00:46,053 Speaker 2: stuck into didn't we Tyler in the second hour, something 10 00:00:46,373 --> 00:00:48,373 Speaker 2: really really interesting. 11 00:00:48,452 --> 00:00:51,293 Speaker 3: It certainly was kids in sport, the cost of kids 12 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:53,213 Speaker 3: in sport. And you paid a lot for one of 13 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:54,493 Speaker 3: your boys for cricket. 14 00:00:54,293 --> 00:00:57,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. In rowing. Yeah, but as sport 15 00:00:57,293 --> 00:00:59,853 Speaker 2: becoming elitist in New Zealand, it's quite expensive for kids 16 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:02,013 Speaker 2: to be involved at the moment. It's amazing how I 17 00:01:02,053 --> 00:01:04,773 Speaker 2: can forget what we've talked about. It was literally an 18 00:01:04,853 --> 00:01:05,493 Speaker 2: hour and a half ago. 19 00:01:05,573 --> 00:01:08,133 Speaker 3: Well, and we had some parents that would pay upwards 20 00:01:08,133 --> 00:01:10,933 Speaker 3: of one hundred thousand k for their kids and that 21 00:01:11,013 --> 00:01:12,773 Speaker 3: chosen sport. You have to listen to find out what 22 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,253 Speaker 3: the sport is. Yeah, you'll never guess. 23 00:01:14,292 --> 00:01:17,012 Speaker 2: And you'll find out what the cheapest sport is well. 24 00:01:17,133 --> 00:01:19,053 Speaker 2: And in the final hour we were talking about all 25 00:01:19,053 --> 00:01:22,453 Speaker 2: the concerts. We talked to Johnny Tugod about the shee 26 00:01:22,493 --> 00:01:25,452 Speaker 2: Hard breakup and their final tour of New Zealand, and 27 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:29,813 Speaker 2: we talk about the Coldplay concert and just the best 28 00:01:29,853 --> 00:01:31,973 Speaker 2: concerts people have ever seen. And we talked to someone 29 00:01:32,093 --> 00:01:35,093 Speaker 2: that saw Elvis Presley law so good, Yeah, awesome is that? 30 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,093 Speaker 2: And a lot of people talking about Ed Zippelin at 31 00:01:38,133 --> 00:01:41,053 Speaker 2: Wiston Springs. So it's a bloody good show, one of 32 00:01:41,053 --> 00:01:43,932 Speaker 2: our best ever. Cavin listen, give it a taste of key. 33 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:45,613 Speaker 4: We you're on. 34 00:01:45,733 --> 00:01:50,013 Speaker 1: New Home for Insightful and Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie and 35 00:01:50,093 --> 00:01:53,373 Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebbie. 36 00:01:54,133 --> 00:01:57,053 Speaker 3: Well, hello, how you doing well? I hope if you're 37 00:01:57,093 --> 00:01:59,613 Speaker 3: listening in the country. Thank you very much for your company. 38 00:01:59,653 --> 00:02:01,453 Speaker 3: As always, get a Mets. 39 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:04,293 Speaker 2: Get a Tyler. Good everyone. So a few weeks ago 40 00:02:04,373 --> 00:02:07,213 Speaker 2: on the show, I was talking about some stomach issues 41 00:02:07,253 --> 00:02:09,373 Speaker 2: I had and then the text machine blew up on 42 00:02:09,453 --> 00:02:12,493 Speaker 2: nine two, nine two and calls through on eight hundred 43 00:02:12,493 --> 00:02:14,253 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty telling me to go and get 44 00:02:14,293 --> 00:02:14,972 Speaker 2: it checked out. 45 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:15,373 Speaker 3: Yep. 46 00:02:15,733 --> 00:02:17,893 Speaker 2: And it took me ages to get a doct's appointment, 47 00:02:17,893 --> 00:02:20,093 Speaker 2: but got to check out today. So people will be 48 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:22,333 Speaker 2: pleased to hear that I had the most intimate of 49 00:02:22,773 --> 00:02:26,373 Speaker 2: inspection this morning and giving the blood tests and so I. 50 00:02:26,293 --> 00:02:28,373 Speaker 3: Did what well done, well done. 51 00:02:28,613 --> 00:02:30,333 Speaker 2: All men should do when some of us don't do, 52 00:02:30,453 --> 00:02:31,893 Speaker 2: is when we have a problem, actually go and see 53 00:02:31,893 --> 00:02:33,733 Speaker 2: the doctor and get it checked out, and don't be 54 00:02:34,972 --> 00:02:36,973 Speaker 2: don't be silly about it, like like we often are 55 00:02:37,013 --> 00:02:39,613 Speaker 2: where we we we don't find the time or we 56 00:02:39,613 --> 00:02:40,973 Speaker 2: don't want to be a problem and we don't go 57 00:02:40,972 --> 00:02:43,252 Speaker 2: and do it. So I am forgetting a good telling 58 00:02:43,252 --> 00:02:45,493 Speaker 2: off from here the deeply see Ellen, he was one 59 00:02:45,493 --> 00:02:45,733 Speaker 2: of them. 60 00:02:45,773 --> 00:02:45,893 Speaker 5: Yea. 61 00:02:46,053 --> 00:02:47,213 Speaker 2: She personally came and told me. 62 00:02:47,493 --> 00:02:48,172 Speaker 3: How did you down? 63 00:02:48,213 --> 00:02:50,613 Speaker 2: Actually she said, you book a doctor, and you book 64 00:02:50,613 --> 00:02:53,173 Speaker 2: it now, And so I did, and I've been in 65 00:02:53,213 --> 00:02:56,252 Speaker 2: there and look news. It was confronting. It was I've 66 00:02:56,293 --> 00:02:58,532 Speaker 2: got to say, for you know, anyone that knows what 67 00:02:58,613 --> 00:03:00,532 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, it we're going to talk around the issue. 68 00:03:00,532 --> 00:03:03,373 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's a it's an interesting way to 69 00:03:03,373 --> 00:03:03,933 Speaker 2: start the day. 70 00:03:03,972 --> 00:03:06,133 Speaker 3: The relationship with your doctor moved up a notch. 71 00:03:07,133 --> 00:03:08,852 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we know. Each other very well. 72 00:03:08,893 --> 00:03:11,453 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, yet Nah knows me better than then I 73 00:03:11,493 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 3: know her. Yeah, great music and great message right onto 74 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:16,692 Speaker 3: the show today after three o'clock. 75 00:03:17,173 --> 00:03:20,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So she had a breaking up. They're 76 00:03:20,093 --> 00:03:23,813 Speaker 2: going on the road for one last time. And look, 77 00:03:23,972 --> 00:03:26,252 Speaker 2: they've been described as one of New Zealand's best live bands. 78 00:03:26,293 --> 00:03:28,773 Speaker 2: I've seen them live dozens of times. I might have 79 00:03:28,773 --> 00:03:31,373 Speaker 2: seen them live more than any other band I've seen live. Yeah, 80 00:03:31,613 --> 00:03:34,613 Speaker 2: phenomenal live band, so many hits. They have been a 81 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:36,213 Speaker 2: big part of the New Zealand music scene for a 82 00:03:36,293 --> 00:03:38,093 Speaker 2: very long time. But they're calling it quit. So we're 83 00:03:38,093 --> 00:03:40,013 Speaker 2: going to have Johnny too Good on the show for 84 00:03:40,013 --> 00:03:42,333 Speaker 2: a little bit of a chat about that. But we 85 00:03:42,373 --> 00:03:45,093 Speaker 2: also want to talk about live shows in general. We 86 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:47,573 Speaker 2: have cold Play playing three shows two one hundred and 87 00:03:47,613 --> 00:03:52,053 Speaker 2: fifty thousand people in New Zealand this weekend at Eden Park, 88 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:54,533 Speaker 2: So we want to talk about the best live band 89 00:03:54,613 --> 00:03:57,813 Speaker 2: you've ever seen in New Zealand, best key with you 90 00:03:57,813 --> 00:04:00,533 Speaker 2: are international band, the best concert you've ever been to. 91 00:04:01,173 --> 00:04:03,093 Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about this a lot. You put 92 00:04:03,093 --> 00:04:07,893 Speaker 2: me on the spot just before Tyler, and it's almost 93 00:04:08,053 --> 00:04:10,333 Speaker 2: a very hard question to answer. 94 00:04:10,533 --> 00:04:12,693 Speaker 3: It is for you because you've gone to a heck 95 00:04:12,733 --> 00:04:14,653 Speaker 3: of a lot of concerts and some of the biggest 96 00:04:14,693 --> 00:04:18,613 Speaker 3: acts we've ever had on this planet. I haven't been 97 00:04:18,613 --> 00:04:22,173 Speaker 3: to that level of concerts, but I've got someone in Mines. 98 00:04:22,253 --> 00:04:24,653 Speaker 3: They played in Auckland about fifteen years ago. I'll mention 99 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:27,133 Speaker 3: that after three o'clock though, Yeah, ok, yeah. 100 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:28,933 Speaker 2: All right, okay, well let's talk about that. We'd love 101 00:04:28,973 --> 00:04:30,453 Speaker 2: to hear people's thoughts on that. 102 00:04:30,573 --> 00:04:34,773 Speaker 3: Also sport, Yeah, after two o'clock. So, Nelson's largest swim 103 00:04:34,773 --> 00:04:38,853 Speaker 3: club is facing an uncertain future as the astronomical price 104 00:04:38,853 --> 00:04:42,053 Speaker 3: of hiring lanes at the city's public pools puts pressure 105 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:44,933 Speaker 3: on swimmers. And these are children, bear in mind. So 106 00:04:44,973 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 3: the lane higher at Riverside climb to forty dollars per 107 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:52,933 Speaker 3: lane per hour. That's meant almost twenty kids have dropped 108 00:04:52,933 --> 00:04:55,373 Speaker 3: out of the club because the parents say it's just 109 00:04:55,453 --> 00:04:59,053 Speaker 3: too expensive. So that's just one scenario. But there's a 110 00:04:59,053 --> 00:05:01,893 Speaker 3: line that this particular swim coach said in this story, 111 00:05:02,413 --> 00:05:05,173 Speaker 3: it's just really sad to me that kids sport is 112 00:05:05,213 --> 00:05:06,413 Speaker 3: now becoming elitist. 113 00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:11,773 Speaker 2: Wow, Elita swimming, Yeah, I mean, I know, my kids 114 00:05:11,773 --> 00:05:14,693 Speaker 2: played cricket and that is an expensive sport. I bet 115 00:05:14,853 --> 00:05:16,413 Speaker 2: by the time they get all the gear, once they've 116 00:05:16,413 --> 00:05:19,413 Speaker 2: got the helmets and the bat and the pads and 117 00:05:19,453 --> 00:05:22,973 Speaker 2: the box and all of it, it is quite expensive. 118 00:05:22,973 --> 00:05:26,053 Speaker 2: And the kit bag, I guess, you know, I'm wondering, 119 00:05:26,253 --> 00:05:28,773 Speaker 2: and maybe we went too far or maybe we didn't 120 00:05:28,813 --> 00:05:30,933 Speaker 2: have to, but it felt like we had to get 121 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:33,293 Speaker 2: all that stuff for the kids. But I remember when 122 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:35,133 Speaker 2: I first started playing cricket, when I played a creet 123 00:05:35,173 --> 00:05:36,653 Speaker 2: high school. I was just grabbing everything out of the 124 00:05:36,693 --> 00:05:40,013 Speaker 2: kit bag, sticky old pads, the box at the guy 125 00:05:40,093 --> 00:05:43,453 Speaker 2: that had just gone out handed to do you do it? 126 00:05:43,933 --> 00:05:47,173 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it is. It's some sports, I mean, 127 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:49,893 Speaker 2: different sports more expensive. I'd like to know how much 128 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:51,573 Speaker 2: it is for a kid to play rugby these days, 129 00:05:52,133 --> 00:05:55,973 Speaker 2: with subs and such and boots and all that kind 130 00:05:55,973 --> 00:05:57,533 Speaker 2: of stuff. Depends how many kids you've got as well. 131 00:05:57,573 --> 00:06:02,293 Speaker 2: That'll multiply what costs. But it's the best thing you 132 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:04,173 Speaker 2: can get kids to do in terms of teaching them 133 00:06:04,213 --> 00:06:08,133 Speaker 2: team work and getting them out and healthy and getting 134 00:06:08,133 --> 00:06:10,213 Speaker 2: them their rooms, getting them off social media, all those 135 00:06:10,293 --> 00:06:13,053 Speaker 2: kind of things. Yeah, that sport is very very important. 136 00:06:13,093 --> 00:06:15,693 Speaker 2: So it's be a pity if some kid was showing 137 00:06:15,693 --> 00:06:17,933 Speaker 2: an interest in swimming and then they just couldn't afford 138 00:06:17,933 --> 00:06:19,493 Speaker 2: to do it. It seems like something that we should be 139 00:06:19,533 --> 00:06:21,093 Speaker 2: doing everything we can to get kids into. 140 00:06:21,373 --> 00:06:23,933 Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's going to be a good discussion after talk clock, 141 00:06:23,973 --> 00:06:26,213 Speaker 3: but right now we want to talk about the banning 142 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:27,213 Speaker 3: of gang patches. 143 00:06:27,493 --> 00:06:27,693 Speaker 6: Yeah. 144 00:06:27,893 --> 00:06:32,773 Speaker 2: So it's a week away from the gang patch ban 145 00:06:33,413 --> 00:06:36,493 Speaker 2: and there's two schools of thought on it. One of 146 00:06:36,533 --> 00:06:38,733 Speaker 2: them is that it won't do anything at all that 147 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:41,013 Speaker 2: gangs that Yet people will say, well, I like to 148 00:06:41,013 --> 00:06:43,053 Speaker 2: see who my gang members are, and if they're going 149 00:06:43,093 --> 00:06:45,613 Speaker 2: to walk around and patches with patches on and represent 150 00:06:45,653 --> 00:06:47,013 Speaker 2: who they are, then we know who they are and 151 00:06:47,053 --> 00:06:50,413 Speaker 2: we can deal with that, and that way making difference. 152 00:06:50,413 --> 00:06:52,733 Speaker 2: But I think it definitely will make some difference. And 153 00:06:52,733 --> 00:06:54,653 Speaker 2: I like to hear people's opinions on eight hundred and 154 00:06:54,693 --> 00:06:56,413 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty whether they think it will make a 155 00:06:56,413 --> 00:06:59,893 Speaker 2: distant difference. But this may sound like a trite angle 156 00:06:59,893 --> 00:07:02,333 Speaker 2: on it, but I reckon there's something about wearing the 157 00:07:02,373 --> 00:07:04,893 Speaker 2: same thing and going out in public. It happens with 158 00:07:04,933 --> 00:07:07,053 Speaker 2: sports fans. When I go to watch the Warriors, it 159 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:10,253 Speaker 2: feels cool that I wear my Warriors kit. It emboldens 160 00:07:10,293 --> 00:07:12,813 Speaker 2: you and it makes you love the team more. Same 161 00:07:12,813 --> 00:07:15,133 Speaker 2: with gang patches. I reckon you know, as I'm saying, 162 00:07:15,133 --> 00:07:17,453 Speaker 2: I'm trivializing it because it's a different thing, but it 163 00:07:17,493 --> 00:07:19,493 Speaker 2: makes it more And this will sound wrong, but it 164 00:07:19,533 --> 00:07:21,893 Speaker 2: makes it more fun to be in a gang. It 165 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:26,293 Speaker 2: advertises their brand, and others will say that that. You know, 166 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:29,013 Speaker 2: it will do nothing to weaken gangs, but in the 167 00:07:29,053 --> 00:07:32,493 Speaker 2: same way that banning wearing sports kit would weaken people's 168 00:07:32,493 --> 00:07:35,173 Speaker 2: allegiances to the team. You know, that's why we spend 169 00:07:35,213 --> 00:07:37,853 Speaker 2: billions of dollars. So I think it will make a difference. 170 00:07:37,893 --> 00:07:40,253 Speaker 2: It'll be one of those differences that is hard to quantify. 171 00:07:40,373 --> 00:07:42,733 Speaker 2: But they wear them now, and they wear them now 172 00:07:42,773 --> 00:07:46,573 Speaker 2: for a reason. The gangs love wearing them and taking 173 00:07:46,613 --> 00:07:49,613 Speaker 2: them away will have an effect on them, So I know, 174 00:07:49,693 --> 00:07:53,053 Speaker 2: I believe. I believe on that very basic level, it'll 175 00:07:53,253 --> 00:07:57,093 Speaker 2: it will affect the morale of the ban of the gang. 176 00:07:57,333 --> 00:08:00,493 Speaker 3: Well, well, funny you mentioned that because a quote when 177 00:08:00,533 --> 00:08:04,733 Speaker 3: this legislation was first tilted by the National Acts Coalition 178 00:08:04,853 --> 00:08:09,773 Speaker 3: and New Zealand first of course, Detective Superintendents Detective Greg 179 00:08:09,813 --> 00:08:12,813 Speaker 3: Williams said at the time that patches were really a 180 00:08:12,853 --> 00:08:14,693 Speaker 3: license to print money. That's why a lot of these 181 00:08:14,693 --> 00:08:16,413 Speaker 3: people want to get in there and get the patch, 182 00:08:16,453 --> 00:08:18,493 Speaker 3: because once they have the patch, then the gang is 183 00:08:18,533 --> 00:08:21,293 Speaker 3: controlling the area in which they control and they're also 184 00:08:21,373 --> 00:08:24,173 Speaker 3: part of a club. It is fun for these gang 185 00:08:24,213 --> 00:08:26,333 Speaker 3: members to get their patch, which is bang on what 186 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:26,853 Speaker 3: you're saying. 187 00:08:26,973 --> 00:08:30,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't do it for nothing. I mean 188 00:08:30,093 --> 00:08:32,653 Speaker 2: it's a very popular thing. It's across most of the 189 00:08:32,653 --> 00:08:34,732 Speaker 2: gangs in New Zealand, So why do they do it? 190 00:08:34,773 --> 00:08:36,973 Speaker 2: So if you're taking a way something that they want 191 00:08:37,013 --> 00:08:41,213 Speaker 2: to do, and they do obviously for a reason, then 192 00:08:41,252 --> 00:08:43,852 Speaker 2: you are hitting them in some regard. And I think 193 00:08:43,892 --> 00:08:47,813 Speaker 2: it's a deeper issue around around policing, and I think 194 00:08:47,852 --> 00:08:50,053 Speaker 2: there's going to be some other benefits there in terms 195 00:08:50,093 --> 00:08:51,772 Speaker 2: of policing, but we can go into that later on. 196 00:08:51,852 --> 00:08:53,693 Speaker 2: But oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty, what do you 197 00:08:53,732 --> 00:08:57,213 Speaker 2: think as the gang patch ban going to do anything? 198 00:08:57,333 --> 00:08:59,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, honesty, call this is and I know him in 199 00:08:59,773 --> 00:09:01,492 Speaker 3: a bubble and I'll get a lot of abuse here 200 00:09:01,492 --> 00:09:05,373 Speaker 3: and I'm all for it. But for most people in 201 00:09:05,372 --> 00:09:08,732 Speaker 3: New Zealand, do gangs interrupt your life? I get the 202 00:09:08,852 --> 00:09:11,252 Speaker 3: argument about drugs and the damage and the crime and 203 00:09:11,293 --> 00:09:13,773 Speaker 3: their community. But on your day to day do you 204 00:09:13,852 --> 00:09:17,253 Speaker 3: feel safer than a year ago when it comes to 205 00:09:17,293 --> 00:09:20,372 Speaker 3: gangs an honesty call, I do. I feel pretty safe. 206 00:09:20,372 --> 00:09:22,892 Speaker 3: I don't run into gangs that often on a weekly 207 00:09:23,012 --> 00:09:26,173 Speaker 3: or even yearly basis. So will this make a difference. 208 00:09:26,173 --> 00:09:28,132 Speaker 3: I hope it does. I really hope it does. But 209 00:09:28,173 --> 00:09:30,133 Speaker 3: I feel pretty safe at the moment. And if this 210 00:09:30,213 --> 00:09:31,773 Speaker 3: is about how you feel. 211 00:09:32,173 --> 00:09:34,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you feel, tired, sorry to cut you 212 00:09:34,173 --> 00:09:37,533 Speaker 2: off the app basket. If it's some people don't feel safe. 213 00:09:37,933 --> 00:09:40,333 Speaker 2: So some communities are very different. Like I could say 214 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:43,373 Speaker 2: I don't interact with gangs much, but I live in 215 00:09:43,492 --> 00:09:45,613 Speaker 2: Central Auckland, and I get out of my house and 216 00:09:45,653 --> 00:09:48,573 Speaker 2: I drive my car into this office and then I 217 00:09:48,612 --> 00:09:50,252 Speaker 2: take the lift up and I get into the studio. 218 00:09:50,653 --> 00:09:53,213 Speaker 2: So I'm not in a rural community that's absolutely that's 219 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:57,532 Speaker 2: riddled by gangs, and people and are intimidated by gangs, 220 00:09:57,852 --> 00:09:59,973 Speaker 2: and gangs are offered up as an option for young 221 00:10:00,012 --> 00:10:03,453 Speaker 2: people that don't have too many other options. So just 222 00:10:03,492 --> 00:10:05,892 Speaker 2: because I don't feel intimidated by gangs, I can't look 223 00:10:05,933 --> 00:10:08,813 Speaker 2: out and see that some people are we need to 224 00:10:08,813 --> 00:10:10,252 Speaker 2: do about do something about that. 225 00:10:10,413 --> 00:10:13,492 Speaker 3: Yeah, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've been 226 00:10:13,533 --> 00:10:18,213 Speaker 3: intimidated by gangs, if your life or family has had 227 00:10:18,252 --> 00:10:20,333 Speaker 3: impacts from gang behavior, I love to hear from you 228 00:10:20,413 --> 00:10:20,693 Speaker 3: as well. 229 00:10:20,732 --> 00:10:20,892 Speaker 7: I w e. 230 00:10:20,933 --> 00:10:22,453 Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 231 00:10:22,573 --> 00:10:24,933 Speaker 3: Nine to ninety two is the text number. It is 232 00:10:25,053 --> 00:10:26,533 Speaker 3: quarter past one. 233 00:10:27,492 --> 00:10:30,973 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 234 00:10:31,213 --> 00:10:35,173 Speaker 1: everything in between. That Ethen Tyler Adams Afternoons You for 235 00:10:35,252 --> 00:10:37,453 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four used Talks DEDB. 236 00:10:37,413 --> 00:10:41,133 Speaker 3: News Talks THEREB. We're talking about the incoming gang patch 237 00:10:41,252 --> 00:10:44,533 Speaker 3: band that will be enforced from next week. Quick text here, 238 00:10:45,053 --> 00:10:48,333 Speaker 3: Tyler to gangs interrupts your life. If your kid is 239 00:10:48,372 --> 00:10:50,813 Speaker 3: on P, then they will stop being so bloody woke 240 00:10:50,892 --> 00:10:53,533 Speaker 3: from herman. Get your point, herman, But I know I 241 00:10:53,573 --> 00:10:55,693 Speaker 3: don't have kids on P and I'm not on P. 242 00:10:56,372 --> 00:11:00,053 Speaker 3: So clearly, look if that's if that's had an impact 243 00:11:00,132 --> 00:11:02,133 Speaker 3: on your life and your child is on meth and fetamine, 244 00:11:02,173 --> 00:11:02,813 Speaker 3: love to hear from you. 245 00:11:03,012 --> 00:11:04,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't have to be your kid for 246 00:11:04,372 --> 00:11:06,973 Speaker 2: you to be affected by someone on myth and fetamine 247 00:11:06,973 --> 00:11:09,893 Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, like so rates go up. And look, 248 00:11:09,892 --> 00:11:13,813 Speaker 2: you haven't been living in Auckland very long, but you 249 00:11:14,093 --> 00:11:16,053 Speaker 2: wander up and down k Road, you will interact with 250 00:11:16,053 --> 00:11:17,253 Speaker 2: people on myth and feta. 251 00:11:17,012 --> 00:11:18,533 Speaker 3: Mein I've seen it. I have seen it. 252 00:11:18,612 --> 00:11:21,973 Speaker 2: Yes, And where does the myth infetamine come from a 253 00:11:21,973 --> 00:11:22,933 Speaker 2: lot of cases gangs? 254 00:11:23,093 --> 00:11:25,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose. Just to my point is a year 255 00:11:25,892 --> 00:11:29,492 Speaker 3: ago we heard nothing but gangs destroying all parts of 256 00:11:29,533 --> 00:11:31,733 Speaker 3: New Zealand life. It was in the headlines all the time. 257 00:11:32,053 --> 00:11:34,813 Speaker 3: Over the past couple of months. Not quite as much 258 00:11:34,933 --> 00:11:37,773 Speaker 3: gang activity that I'm seeing in the news, and I 259 00:11:37,852 --> 00:11:41,732 Speaker 3: know that's not the real life for everybody. But what 260 00:11:41,773 --> 00:11:44,173 Speaker 3: I'm saying is it was a massive problem a year ago. 261 00:11:44,293 --> 00:11:46,573 Speaker 3: To me, it doesn't feel like so much of a problem. 262 00:11:46,573 --> 00:11:48,333 Speaker 3: But I'm happy to be proven wrong. If you have 263 00:11:48,453 --> 00:11:52,253 Speaker 3: had interactions with gangs very recently or still ongoing, you 264 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:54,493 Speaker 3: live next door to gangs, love to hear from you, 265 00:11:54,533 --> 00:11:56,253 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty, what is it like? 266 00:11:56,413 --> 00:11:57,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean you could also say, look, I 267 00:11:58,012 --> 00:11:59,733 Speaker 2: haven't had a lot of interaction, my house hasn't been 268 00:11:59,732 --> 00:12:04,052 Speaker 2: burgled lately, but houses are still being burgled. So you 269 00:12:04,612 --> 00:12:08,772 Speaker 2: and you put into policies that lower the amount of 270 00:12:08,773 --> 00:12:10,693 Speaker 2: house burglaries, even if you live in a suburb that 271 00:12:10,732 --> 00:12:12,573 Speaker 2: isn't getting the house burgled a lot. Yeah, you know, 272 00:12:12,612 --> 00:12:14,173 Speaker 2: you look at the whole picture of the nation. 273 00:12:14,453 --> 00:12:17,612 Speaker 3: Yep, good call, Jay, how are you hey? 274 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:23,852 Speaker 8: Guys? Now, interesting anecdotes here, But you drew a good 275 00:12:24,293 --> 00:12:27,853 Speaker 8: parallel and analogy that they were sport. You are right, 276 00:12:27,933 --> 00:12:30,652 Speaker 8: it will have the fact I'm doing moral But do 277 00:12:30,693 --> 00:12:34,093 Speaker 8: you do you remember or not when Michael Laws tried 278 00:12:34,093 --> 00:12:34,892 Speaker 8: to some longanui? 279 00:12:35,413 --> 00:12:35,653 Speaker 9: Yeah? 280 00:12:36,612 --> 00:12:38,412 Speaker 8: Right now, what was the big problem with that in 281 00:12:38,453 --> 00:12:38,892 Speaker 8: the end month? 282 00:12:39,732 --> 00:12:42,492 Speaker 3: Refresh my memory. I know there was some fish hooks there, 283 00:12:42,533 --> 00:12:43,732 Speaker 3: but just refresh our memories. 284 00:12:44,333 --> 00:12:47,372 Speaker 8: The biggest one, brother, And that's actually a very good analogy. 285 00:12:47,413 --> 00:12:49,653 Speaker 8: I've never actually thought about it. That is what you said, brother. 286 00:12:49,732 --> 00:12:54,093 Speaker 8: But here's the thing. A visible gangster is an avoidable one. Now, 287 00:12:54,093 --> 00:12:56,492 Speaker 8: what was happening to get these young bucks going around paying? 288 00:12:56,533 --> 00:12:59,012 Speaker 8: Gangs are all shipping and no, what's that meaning? I'm 289 00:12:59,053 --> 00:13:01,772 Speaker 8: a head under What do you say when they get 290 00:13:01,773 --> 00:13:04,573 Speaker 8: a hide? What I mean, at least so visible they 291 00:13:04,612 --> 00:13:05,292 Speaker 8: are avoidable. 292 00:13:05,333 --> 00:13:05,533 Speaker 10: Mate. 293 00:13:06,852 --> 00:13:11,852 Speaker 3: It's a good point. So with the targeting gang patches specifically, 294 00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:14,013 Speaker 3: you don't think it will make much differ of a difference. 295 00:13:14,012 --> 00:13:16,292 Speaker 3: In fact, it'll make it harder to find these guys. 296 00:13:16,813 --> 00:13:19,013 Speaker 8: Well, that's right, there's that too. And also you are 297 00:13:19,093 --> 00:13:20,973 Speaker 8: right about the sports for as you say, you wear 298 00:13:20,973 --> 00:13:22,573 Speaker 8: a Warrior shirt. I mean I love the Black Cats. 299 00:13:22,573 --> 00:13:26,933 Speaker 8: I love wearing that shit. Yeah, you know, and bega, 300 00:13:27,173 --> 00:13:30,093 Speaker 8: it didn't work when Michael Wallas tried it all happened. 301 00:13:30,213 --> 00:13:32,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, thanks so much for you for your call there. 302 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:34,653 Speaker 2: I mean there is another angle to it as well 303 00:13:34,732 --> 00:13:38,093 Speaker 2: that whilst you know, people say, well that the gangs 304 00:13:38,093 --> 00:13:40,693 Speaker 2: will just flaunt it and and you know, what are 305 00:13:40,693 --> 00:13:42,372 Speaker 2: the police, how are they going to do? But but 306 00:13:42,492 --> 00:13:45,012 Speaker 2: also there's there's there's ways that police work where so 307 00:13:45,173 --> 00:13:48,373 Speaker 2: if they and this is a quote from a policeman saying, 308 00:13:48,413 --> 00:13:50,653 Speaker 2: you know that you know you have someone that's breaching 309 00:13:50,653 --> 00:13:54,813 Speaker 2: a few times and then you then you go you 310 00:13:54,852 --> 00:13:57,893 Speaker 2: have evidence of patch band breaches would enable police to 311 00:13:57,933 --> 00:14:00,693 Speaker 2: obtain warrants and have even greater greater powers to disrupt 312 00:14:00,732 --> 00:14:03,412 Speaker 2: the illegal activity. That's when you'll find all the cash 313 00:14:03,413 --> 00:14:05,773 Speaker 2: and their drugs, and you turn up at two in 314 00:14:05,813 --> 00:14:07,693 Speaker 2: the morning and wake them up in their kids and 315 00:14:07,732 --> 00:14:10,653 Speaker 2: find messing uns in their house, right, So this is 316 00:14:10,693 --> 00:14:13,573 Speaker 2: the policeman that's speaking off the record saying that you 317 00:14:13,612 --> 00:14:18,732 Speaker 2: know that you may be hitting the patch as the 318 00:14:19,493 --> 00:14:22,413 Speaker 2: breach and harrassing on that, but then as the breaches 319 00:14:22,493 --> 00:14:25,813 Speaker 2: continue it opens up. There their other activities to you 320 00:14:25,853 --> 00:14:26,493 Speaker 2: to investigate. 321 00:14:26,653 --> 00:14:28,412 Speaker 3: Very good point oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten 322 00:14:28,453 --> 00:14:30,013 Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine two 323 00:14:30,133 --> 00:14:32,813 Speaker 3: is the text number. How are you feeling about the 324 00:14:32,293 --> 00:14:36,533 Speaker 3: implementation of the gang patch band coming in next week? 325 00:14:36,613 --> 00:14:42,653 Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. It is twenty two past one. 326 00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:44,733 Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking. 327 00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:47,693 Speaker 11: Breakfast survivors of abuse and care. Cooper Legal is representing 328 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:51,253 Speaker 11: more than sixteen hundred affected client. Senior Associate Lydia Ostahoff 329 00:14:51,533 --> 00:14:53,173 Speaker 11: is with us, the people you represent. 330 00:14:53,373 --> 00:14:54,813 Speaker 2: What's the feeling so far? 331 00:14:55,013 --> 00:14:57,733 Speaker 12: We've come a long way, But an apology means nothing 332 00:14:57,973 --> 00:15:00,173 Speaker 12: if it doesn't come with a commitment to change. 333 00:15:00,373 --> 00:15:03,532 Speaker 11: This is a massive thing. Given an apology is easier 334 00:15:03,573 --> 00:15:06,253 Speaker 11: to deliver. Is it unrealistic to expect here's a check 335 00:15:06,293 --> 00:15:07,733 Speaker 11: and here's how we're going to do it. I mean, 336 00:15:07,773 --> 00:15:09,213 Speaker 11: this takes time and you want to do it right, 337 00:15:09,253 --> 00:15:09,573 Speaker 11: don't you? 338 00:15:09,693 --> 00:15:11,653 Speaker 12: Yes, and I think what we've got to realize is 339 00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:14,533 Speaker 12: the final report which tabled in Parliament in July for 340 00:15:14,613 --> 00:15:17,013 Speaker 12: the government, and that's a successive government have had the 341 00:15:17,093 --> 00:15:20,493 Speaker 12: Interim Readers Report since December twenty twenty one. 342 00:15:20,693 --> 00:15:23,453 Speaker 11: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with 343 00:15:23,533 --> 00:15:26,573 Speaker 11: Baby's Real Estate News Talk ZBS. 344 00:15:26,053 --> 00:15:27,093 Speaker 3: Twenty five past one. 345 00:15:27,133 --> 00:15:29,532 Speaker 2: We're talking about the gang patch ban that's coming into 346 00:15:29,573 --> 00:15:32,412 Speaker 2: effect and a week will it do anything. I'm saying 347 00:15:32,413 --> 00:15:34,133 Speaker 2: that it's like a sports team. If you support a 348 00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,573 Speaker 2: sports team, you feel better and more emboldened and more 349 00:15:36,613 --> 00:15:39,013 Speaker 2: involved if you've got the cat on and someone has 350 00:15:39,053 --> 00:15:40,853 Speaker 2: texted through on nine two nine two being thank you 351 00:15:40,893 --> 00:15:44,053 Speaker 2: for your text, which agrees with me. Trust me. Gang 352 00:15:44,213 --> 00:15:46,573 Speaker 2: members feel a whole lot tougher with their patch on 353 00:15:46,853 --> 00:15:48,693 Speaker 2: take it off, and they act like puppies. Seen it 354 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:51,093 Speaker 2: in the sharing gangs. No patch in the shed. They 355 00:15:51,133 --> 00:15:53,053 Speaker 2: act aal tough when the patches on take it off 356 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,973 Speaker 2: and it's yes sir, no sir. So there you go. 357 00:15:55,973 --> 00:15:58,373 Speaker 3: Good text. Thank you very much. Craig. How are you 358 00:15:58,373 --> 00:15:59,053 Speaker 3: this afternoon? 359 00:15:59,813 --> 00:16:04,532 Speaker 9: Yeah, good, guys. I think less laws that'd be dangerous 360 00:16:04,573 --> 00:16:07,813 Speaker 9: for all of us, you know, lad and Smith. You 361 00:16:07,893 --> 00:16:13,973 Speaker 9: said it saying yourself constantly say inspiance. Now they Tailer 362 00:16:14,053 --> 00:16:16,293 Speaker 9: mentioned the year or so back, all we heard in 363 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:19,293 Speaker 9: the radio and the news was gang, this gang, that gang. 364 00:16:19,333 --> 00:16:19,413 Speaker 6: That. 365 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:23,613 Speaker 9: I think they did a fantastic market employee to get 366 00:16:23,653 --> 00:16:26,013 Speaker 9: the support to get this law through, and I can 367 00:16:26,053 --> 00:16:29,773 Speaker 9: see it being used against that they had to change 368 00:16:29,813 --> 00:16:34,333 Speaker 9: the Bill of Rights for this law, and that that 369 00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:38,573 Speaker 9: bill of rights protect all of us, and what they've 370 00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:41,893 Speaker 9: changed in it, I can see down there from years 371 00:16:41,933 --> 00:16:47,373 Speaker 9: from now, you won't be able to wear anti political clothing. 372 00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:51,373 Speaker 9: You won't possibly be able to wear clothing that identifies 373 00:16:51,413 --> 00:16:54,973 Speaker 9: your religion, the salveage army uniform or something like that. 374 00:16:55,693 --> 00:16:59,493 Speaker 9: It's that the government has used the gangs, that it's 375 00:16:59,533 --> 00:17:02,013 Speaker 9: been a hot topic for the last few years, to 376 00:17:02,093 --> 00:17:06,013 Speaker 9: put in a law that can be used against all 377 00:17:06,093 --> 00:17:09,173 Speaker 9: of us down the line. And I think it's bloody dangerous. 378 00:17:09,373 --> 00:17:13,293 Speaker 2: I see it's saying Craig, because it is a suppression 379 00:17:13,293 --> 00:17:17,453 Speaker 2: of free speech. And when it's a suppression of the 380 00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:22,133 Speaker 2: gang's rights to free speech, we kind of agree with it. 381 00:17:22,253 --> 00:17:24,973 Speaker 2: But then that is because that's our current view on it. 382 00:17:25,013 --> 00:17:28,173 Speaker 2: But yeah, when you start making little changes to things 383 00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:30,532 Speaker 2: like the Bills of Rights. A different government comes in 384 00:17:30,573 --> 00:17:34,573 Speaker 2: with different views and then they have a president to 385 00:17:35,413 --> 00:17:37,533 Speaker 2: crack down on that is That's pretty much what you're saying, 386 00:17:37,573 --> 00:17:39,453 Speaker 2: isn't it absolutely? 387 00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:41,613 Speaker 9: You know, you look at there's hate speech sools. Now 388 00:17:41,693 --> 00:17:46,853 Speaker 9: if what you say isn't suitable to the government of 389 00:17:46,893 --> 00:17:49,413 Speaker 9: the day, you're likely to get charged for hate speech, 390 00:17:49,493 --> 00:17:52,293 Speaker 9: you know. And I've got a couple of mates that 391 00:17:52,333 --> 00:17:56,333 Speaker 9: are in a motorcycle club in New Zealand, I think 392 00:17:56,373 --> 00:18:00,773 Speaker 9: probably the first one worldwide, and they are the most 393 00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:04,173 Speaker 9: hard working people I know. And I know there's guys 394 00:18:04,173 --> 00:18:07,572 Speaker 9: in there that do some bad stuff, but they're you know, 395 00:18:07,813 --> 00:18:11,773 Speaker 9: if of people think that they're all eating caviar and 396 00:18:12,613 --> 00:18:15,213 Speaker 9: I fill at stake every night, it's a load of crap. 397 00:18:16,773 --> 00:18:19,973 Speaker 9: And I just think it's a dangerous president that's been 398 00:18:20,173 --> 00:18:23,532 Speaker 9: set that one day will be used against you and 399 00:18:23,613 --> 00:18:28,453 Speaker 9: me and everything because it's Yeah, I think it's dangerous. 400 00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:29,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that. 401 00:18:29,653 --> 00:18:29,853 Speaker 10: You know. 402 00:18:29,973 --> 00:18:34,413 Speaker 2: I'm a huge supporter of free speech, and I'm very 403 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:38,013 Speaker 2: suspicious of anything that takes free speech with people's ability 404 00:18:38,133 --> 00:18:42,293 Speaker 2: to express themselves. But Craig, if we took that off 405 00:18:42,653 --> 00:18:46,053 Speaker 2: off the off, the you know that put that point 406 00:18:46,053 --> 00:18:49,052 Speaker 2: to a side. Do you think that the gang patch 407 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:53,093 Speaker 2: ban will be effective in the goals that the government 408 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:56,532 Speaker 2: want to be effective in that it will be a 409 00:18:56,653 --> 00:18:58,413 Speaker 2: useful tool against the gangs. 410 00:18:59,093 --> 00:19:03,253 Speaker 9: Well, I can't see it's being useful because if there 411 00:19:03,253 --> 00:19:07,973 Speaker 9: are the people within those environments aren't going to stop 412 00:19:07,973 --> 00:19:10,373 Speaker 9: there from all activity, the ones that partake in that. 413 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:17,173 Speaker 9: I mean only the media tells ads that were intimidated 414 00:19:17,213 --> 00:19:20,533 Speaker 9: by gangs. You go to Pool Void Pub on any 415 00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:26,293 Speaker 9: given nice Sunday afternoon and you've got people and patches 416 00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:30,533 Speaker 9: of You've got people with their car clubs, you've got 417 00:19:30,693 --> 00:19:35,093 Speaker 9: just Joe Blow all together. No one's intimidated. 418 00:19:35,813 --> 00:19:38,413 Speaker 2: That's funny you say that, because maybe I'm a wors 419 00:19:38,453 --> 00:19:40,933 Speaker 2: but I've been at the Pool Point Bub and I 420 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:43,973 Speaker 2: have felt a little bit of intimidated by and not 421 00:19:43,973 --> 00:19:46,013 Speaker 2: not we're not just talking about and this is a 422 00:19:46,093 --> 00:19:50,893 Speaker 2: judgment making, but a bunch of gang members turned up 423 00:19:50,933 --> 00:19:53,572 Speaker 2: with patches on. And maybe it is that I've been 424 00:19:53,613 --> 00:19:56,853 Speaker 2: hyped up to feel intimidated, but I definitely did feel intimidated. 425 00:19:57,133 --> 00:19:59,413 Speaker 2: And maybe that's me being a whop, but I did 426 00:19:59,413 --> 00:20:03,333 Speaker 2: feel intimidated by a certain gang that turned up on 427 00:20:03,373 --> 00:20:05,093 Speaker 2: a bunch of bikes. But I love the. 428 00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:09,773 Speaker 9: That's a shame, but I just yeah, I don't agree 429 00:20:09,813 --> 00:20:11,893 Speaker 9: with that because I just see where it's going. 430 00:20:12,773 --> 00:20:15,493 Speaker 3: Okay, No, fair enough to Craig, thank you very much. 431 00:20:15,533 --> 00:20:17,453 Speaker 2: And it's a good point. And we've we've got to 432 00:20:17,493 --> 00:20:20,813 Speaker 2: mess with the Bill of Rights very very very carefully, 433 00:20:20,853 --> 00:20:23,733 Speaker 2: because yeah, as you say, at one point it's on 434 00:20:23,773 --> 00:20:26,733 Speaker 2: your side and then at another point it's not on 435 00:20:26,773 --> 00:20:28,893 Speaker 2: your side, and that's why the Bill of Rights exists. 436 00:20:29,053 --> 00:20:32,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, but just on their point, This whole legislation came 437 00:20:32,853 --> 00:20:34,733 Speaker 3: about because that was the mood of the nation, right, 438 00:20:34,773 --> 00:20:37,253 Speaker 3: the pendulum was swinging, that we were riddled with crime 439 00:20:37,573 --> 00:20:39,493 Speaker 3: and the police need to get tougher, and that was 440 00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:41,813 Speaker 3: the mood of the nation. Hence why we've got National 441 00:20:41,933 --> 00:20:44,933 Speaker 3: Acts and New Zealand first up there. They promised this legislation. 442 00:20:45,293 --> 00:20:47,373 Speaker 3: But if the mood of the nation changes, then this 443 00:20:47,453 --> 00:20:49,613 Speaker 3: is an easy legislation to row back on, isn't it. 444 00:20:50,013 --> 00:20:52,373 Speaker 3: If people decide, as Craig says, it's gone too far 445 00:20:52,693 --> 00:20:54,653 Speaker 3: and the wrong people are being targeted and the mood 446 00:20:54,653 --> 00:20:58,093 Speaker 3: of the nation changes, well then a new government might 447 00:20:58,213 --> 00:21:00,453 Speaker 3: just go along with that. Mood of the nation. 448 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:02,573 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so you say that you're not tyler, you 449 00:21:02,613 --> 00:21:05,613 Speaker 2: say that you're not specifically intimidated, and you don't experience 450 00:21:05,693 --> 00:21:07,573 Speaker 2: gangs and it's not a problem for you, right. 451 00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:09,653 Speaker 3: Not on a day to day basis, no. 452 00:21:09,893 --> 00:21:11,933 Speaker 2: But knowing that there are gangs out there, how do 453 00:21:11,973 --> 00:21:12,973 Speaker 2: you feel about the gangs? 454 00:21:13,133 --> 00:21:13,813 Speaker 3: I don't like them. 455 00:21:13,893 --> 00:21:15,973 Speaker 2: You don't like them, no, right, And do you think 456 00:21:15,973 --> 00:21:18,093 Speaker 2: that they're a problem in New Zealand society? Yeah? 457 00:21:18,093 --> 00:21:19,133 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay. 458 00:21:19,253 --> 00:21:21,853 Speaker 2: So do you think that the police need to do 459 00:21:21,893 --> 00:21:22,493 Speaker 2: something about it? 460 00:21:22,733 --> 00:21:23,133 Speaker 9: Yeah? 461 00:21:23,213 --> 00:21:26,573 Speaker 2: Okay. And so from the police's perspective and from the 462 00:21:26,573 --> 00:21:30,733 Speaker 2: government's perspective, this is a tool to do something about it. 463 00:21:30,893 --> 00:21:31,173 Speaker 10: Yeah. 464 00:21:31,213 --> 00:21:33,293 Speaker 3: And if they can get into these gang houses and 465 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:35,173 Speaker 3: they've got that opportunity to do that, I think it's 466 00:21:35,173 --> 00:21:37,413 Speaker 3: a good thing. Primarily around the drug trade. That's what 467 00:21:37,453 --> 00:21:39,733 Speaker 3: I hate most about it. And look, I'll say it 468 00:21:39,773 --> 00:21:42,532 Speaker 3: on the show that I had a cousin who was 469 00:21:42,733 --> 00:21:45,813 Speaker 3: on the periphery of the gangs, and my auntie has 470 00:21:45,813 --> 00:21:48,373 Speaker 3: had a lot to do on sort of the outskirts 471 00:21:48,413 --> 00:21:50,693 Speaker 3: of gang life, and she's pretty strong that she doesn't 472 00:21:50,693 --> 00:21:53,133 Speaker 3: like gang she doesn't like how they operate she doesn't 473 00:21:53,173 --> 00:21:55,093 Speaker 3: like what happens in the community. But not all of 474 00:21:55,133 --> 00:21:57,413 Speaker 3: them are bad people, but how they operate. 475 00:21:57,773 --> 00:22:01,333 Speaker 2: But what do you think gangs? How do you think 476 00:22:01,373 --> 00:22:02,373 Speaker 2: gangs make money? 477 00:22:02,533 --> 00:22:02,733 Speaker 9: Yeah? 478 00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:06,093 Speaker 2: From drugs, from exact crime, right, yeah, from crime? Yeah yeah. 479 00:22:06,293 --> 00:22:10,333 Speaker 2: So yeah. So I don't know whether this is whether 480 00:22:10,453 --> 00:22:13,053 Speaker 2: this is an effective way to hit gangs or not 481 00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:15,213 Speaker 2: that that's really the question. But I think we all 482 00:22:15,253 --> 00:22:18,933 Speaker 2: agree that gangs aren't a great pathway for someone in life, 483 00:22:18,973 --> 00:22:22,293 Speaker 2: a young person going forward. We prefer that they didn't 484 00:22:23,173 --> 00:22:26,213 Speaker 2: choose the life of gangs, right yeah. And we would 485 00:22:26,253 --> 00:22:28,973 Speaker 2: prefer that there was less meth mphetamine out there, wouldn't 486 00:22:29,013 --> 00:22:34,453 Speaker 2: we So what is the solution? According according to the government, 487 00:22:34,933 --> 00:22:37,933 Speaker 2: and according to this police officer that I'm reading this 488 00:22:40,013 --> 00:22:44,293 Speaker 2: anonymous statement from, it is an effective tool the gang patch. 489 00:22:45,853 --> 00:22:47,813 Speaker 2: It's another way to target them and it's another way 490 00:22:47,893 --> 00:22:50,173 Speaker 2: to make them feel less bold in the community. 491 00:22:50,253 --> 00:22:52,093 Speaker 3: Where As you're talking about the sports analogy, and it's 492 00:22:52,093 --> 00:22:54,573 Speaker 3: a great analogy. It is, and I think you know, 493 00:22:54,693 --> 00:22:56,413 Speaker 3: and a lot of people push back at this, and 494 00:22:56,453 --> 00:22:58,733 Speaker 3: fair enough that this idea. We've got to stop people 495 00:22:58,773 --> 00:23:01,373 Speaker 3: joining the gangs in the first place. It's wally thinking, 496 00:23:01,453 --> 00:23:03,293 Speaker 3: and it hasn't done enough. And we've got to stop 497 00:23:03,373 --> 00:23:06,493 Speaker 3: treating the gangs with kiddie gloves, and I will get 498 00:23:06,493 --> 00:23:08,333 Speaker 3: a lot of those teats coming through, but that is 499 00:23:08,533 --> 00:23:10,613 Speaker 3: part of the solution. Clearly, that is a part of it. 500 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:12,653 Speaker 3: And by I think I take your point about the 501 00:23:12,653 --> 00:23:16,733 Speaker 3: sports analogy. I think maybe that is another tool to 502 00:23:16,933 --> 00:23:20,653 Speaker 3: hopefully stop these young guys coming through and saying, hey, 503 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:22,733 Speaker 3: I want that patch. I want to be part of 504 00:23:22,733 --> 00:23:23,213 Speaker 3: that gang. 505 00:23:23,253 --> 00:23:23,373 Speaker 8: Man. 506 00:23:23,453 --> 00:23:26,693 Speaker 2: They think it, they think it looks cool, and there 507 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:30,253 Speaker 2: are some pretty cool designs. Yeah, gang patches are very 508 00:23:30,293 --> 00:23:33,053 Speaker 2: well designed. They have great designers. 509 00:23:32,853 --> 00:23:34,413 Speaker 3: They too, so no doubt about that. 510 00:23:34,533 --> 00:23:37,573 Speaker 2: And and people with them because they feel cool. So 511 00:23:38,013 --> 00:23:40,933 Speaker 2: hitting that whether you talk about the Bill of Rights 512 00:23:42,013 --> 00:23:45,293 Speaker 2: or or that, and that's that. Craig race is a 513 00:23:45,293 --> 00:23:49,773 Speaker 2: really important issue there, which which I'm torn on, But 514 00:23:50,173 --> 00:23:53,253 Speaker 2: there is no doubt in my mind that the patches 515 00:23:53,373 --> 00:23:55,493 Speaker 2: are there for a reason and a worn for a reason, 516 00:23:55,933 --> 00:23:58,933 Speaker 2: and it makes people feel good about being the van 517 00:23:59,293 --> 00:24:00,653 Speaker 2: in the gang, and it emboldens them. 518 00:24:00,693 --> 00:24:02,893 Speaker 3: No good discussion. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is 519 00:24:02,893 --> 00:24:05,853 Speaker 3: the number to call. It is twenty seven to two. 520 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:11,773 Speaker 13: U's Talk headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble 521 00:24:11,813 --> 00:24:16,052 Speaker 13: with a blue bubble. The flag forestooned hikoy protesting the treaty. 522 00:24:16,093 --> 00:24:20,093 Speaker 13: Principal's Bill has arrived at Auckland's Bastion Point. 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Back to 539 00:25:20,213 --> 00:25:21,413 Speaker 13: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 540 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:23,373 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Rayleen. It's twenty three to two. 541 00:25:23,453 --> 00:25:26,173 Speaker 2: We're talking about the gang patch ban that's coming to 542 00:25:26,253 --> 00:25:28,653 Speaker 2: effect in a week. Do you think it'll be effective? 543 00:25:28,773 --> 00:25:31,213 Speaker 2: Do you think it's the right thing to do? Robin, 544 00:25:31,293 --> 00:25:32,853 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. You want to push back a 545 00:25:32,853 --> 00:25:36,773 Speaker 2: little bit on Craig who was concerned about suppression of 546 00:25:37,253 --> 00:25:39,293 Speaker 2: free speech in the tweaks to the Bill of Rights 547 00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:43,533 Speaker 2: that had to be enacted to get this bill over 548 00:25:43,533 --> 00:25:44,173 Speaker 2: the line. 549 00:25:45,293 --> 00:25:48,052 Speaker 14: Yes, well, he mentioned that, you know, we already have 550 00:25:48,093 --> 00:25:50,493 Speaker 14: hate speech but as far as I understand, I do 551 00:25:50,573 --> 00:25:53,053 Speaker 14: support the Free Speech Union, and we don't yet know 552 00:25:53,173 --> 00:25:55,173 Speaker 14: those hate speech laws, and I think the longer we 553 00:25:55,213 --> 00:25:57,733 Speaker 14: can push back against those, the better, to be quote Honus. 554 00:25:57,813 --> 00:25:59,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, Robin, I actually actually he did say that, and 555 00:25:59,853 --> 00:26:01,933 Speaker 2: I was about I didn't get around to putting out 556 00:26:01,933 --> 00:26:04,773 Speaker 2: that we don't currently have hate speech laws. 557 00:26:05,013 --> 00:26:05,373 Speaker 13: Yeah. 558 00:26:05,453 --> 00:26:07,333 Speaker 14: I don't know what they have tweaked in the Bill 559 00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:09,653 Speaker 14: of Rights to actually get the through, but one of 560 00:26:09,653 --> 00:26:11,413 Speaker 14: the things that happened to me was because I live 561 00:26:11,453 --> 00:26:13,733 Speaker 14: in an area of Hamilton where there were a lot 562 00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:16,133 Speaker 14: of people at war game patches. There's not nearly as 563 00:26:16,173 --> 00:26:18,053 Speaker 14: many now. In fact, I raally see one when I 564 00:26:18,133 --> 00:26:20,293 Speaker 14: drove around. But I had a bit of a fallout 565 00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:22,493 Speaker 14: with a bloke one day and he was showing me 566 00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:24,133 Speaker 14: his patch on the back and telling me he was 567 00:26:24,133 --> 00:26:26,693 Speaker 14: in the Mungrom and then he ripped up his jacket 568 00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:28,693 Speaker 14: and showed me that he had tattooed on his back 569 00:26:28,773 --> 00:26:31,733 Speaker 14: as well. So if it gives them courage, I'm not 570 00:26:31,773 --> 00:26:34,533 Speaker 14: sure if the actual literal patch does or not. But 571 00:26:34,573 --> 00:26:36,933 Speaker 14: one of my concerns is what do they actually do 572 00:26:37,053 --> 00:26:40,213 Speaker 14: to get those patches? They are a bit different. That 573 00:26:40,293 --> 00:26:42,613 Speaker 14: guy was saying, oh, you know, eventually it will become that, 574 00:26:43,013 --> 00:26:48,293 Speaker 14: you know, anything that anti government or religious symbol or 575 00:26:48,293 --> 00:26:51,453 Speaker 14: something like that, they'll do that. But I think part 576 00:26:51,493 --> 00:26:53,253 Speaker 14: of the problem is actually what they do to get 577 00:26:53,253 --> 00:26:55,773 Speaker 14: the patches. I'm not sure what they do these days, 578 00:26:55,773 --> 00:26:58,053 Speaker 14: but I remember way back a policeman was telling me 579 00:26:58,093 --> 00:27:00,373 Speaker 14: what they actually did to get them, and you know, 580 00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:03,053 Speaker 14: they're sort of quite inhuman type things that they do, 581 00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:06,573 Speaker 14: and that also is part of the problem. I think. 582 00:27:06,853 --> 00:27:11,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you think that the bands will be effective? 583 00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:17,373 Speaker 14: Robin, Yeah, I'm not sure really because I think it 584 00:27:17,413 --> 00:27:19,893 Speaker 14: could cause an awful lot of resentment and how that 585 00:27:19,933 --> 00:27:22,453 Speaker 14: will backfire on the police to be quite honest. But 586 00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,293 Speaker 14: it is interesting around this area. As I said, we 587 00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:28,613 Speaker 14: had to ever see a patch now when we first 588 00:27:28,653 --> 00:27:31,053 Speaker 14: moved to this therea We deliberately moved to this area. 589 00:27:30,893 --> 00:27:32,093 Speaker 8: Because we want to work in it. 590 00:27:33,533 --> 00:27:35,333 Speaker 14: You know, you'd see a lot of them around with it. 591 00:27:35,493 --> 00:27:36,453 Speaker 11: So Robert, do. 592 00:27:36,453 --> 00:27:38,333 Speaker 2: You do you mind? Do you mind sharing what area 593 00:27:38,373 --> 00:27:41,533 Speaker 2: that is? Generally basically you don't have to obviously, Yeah, 594 00:27:41,653 --> 00:27:42,453 Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable. 595 00:27:42,453 --> 00:27:47,812 Speaker 14: It was the Norton Crawls Shaw area of Hamilton, Okay, yep, yeah, 596 00:27:47,893 --> 00:27:50,453 Speaker 14: And you know, as I said, it was not you 597 00:27:50,493 --> 00:27:53,133 Speaker 14: know at all, and you know to go down the 598 00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:57,573 Speaker 14: street and see them and that kind of thing, and yeah, 599 00:27:58,053 --> 00:27:59,893 Speaker 14: but you know, as I said, I can't remember when 600 00:27:59,893 --> 00:28:01,253 Speaker 14: I at last saw one around here. 601 00:28:01,533 --> 00:28:01,773 Speaker 15: Yeah. 602 00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:05,893 Speaker 2: In terms of the you know how much confrontation for 603 00:28:05,933 --> 00:28:07,853 Speaker 2: the police as well, they're going to have seventy seven 604 00:28:07,973 --> 00:28:11,253 Speaker 2: dead gang disruption offices supported by another twenty five rolls 605 00:28:11,493 --> 00:28:14,333 Speaker 2: in the National gang units. These for people take the 606 00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:17,293 Speaker 2: lead in establishing how the police would enforce the patch bands. 607 00:28:17,373 --> 00:28:20,933 Speaker 2: So they are deploying resources in this area. 608 00:28:20,893 --> 00:28:24,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean across the ditch, New South Wales. They 609 00:28:24,053 --> 00:28:27,213 Speaker 3: would claim they have similar legislation that they put in 610 00:28:27,213 --> 00:28:29,533 Speaker 3: some time ago. They would claim that it's made a difference. 611 00:28:29,613 --> 00:28:32,373 Speaker 3: But also they had Strike Force Raptor as well, which 612 00:28:32,413 --> 00:28:35,533 Speaker 3: was a dedicated criminal task force to tackle the gangs. 613 00:28:35,853 --> 00:28:39,413 Speaker 3: So judging on their reporting of it, certainly reduce the 614 00:28:39,493 --> 00:28:42,213 Speaker 3: numbers of gang members that you see in the community. 615 00:28:42,373 --> 00:28:45,253 Speaker 3: But again there's concern and as you mentioned before, this 616 00:28:45,293 --> 00:28:48,053 Speaker 3: one is hard to measure the metrics on it. Concern 617 00:28:48,133 --> 00:28:49,493 Speaker 3: that they went underground. 618 00:28:49,493 --> 00:28:53,373 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and also my thoughts that it's like a 619 00:28:53,493 --> 00:28:57,013 Speaker 2: supporting a sports team. You feel great and you feel emboldened, 620 00:28:57,013 --> 00:28:58,213 Speaker 2: and I do when I go to the Warriors and 621 00:28:58,253 --> 00:29:01,173 Speaker 2: we're my full Warriors cat, I feel great because I'm 622 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:05,493 Speaker 2: part of something. So that's uncontifiable removing that what difference 623 00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:07,853 Speaker 2: that makes the gangs. But you have to know, and 624 00:29:07,933 --> 00:29:12,453 Speaker 2: you have to have real metrics of if there's less 625 00:29:12,493 --> 00:29:15,533 Speaker 2: gang members, if they're doing less crime or not, And 626 00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:16,733 Speaker 2: those numbers are harder to get. 627 00:29:16,893 --> 00:29:19,573 Speaker 3: But public perception matters as well, right, so even as 628 00:29:19,733 --> 00:29:21,893 Speaker 3: Robin said, she hasn't seen a patch for a wee while, 629 00:29:22,213 --> 00:29:24,973 Speaker 3: if that carries on under this legislation, that is probably 630 00:29:25,053 --> 00:29:27,653 Speaker 3: a good thing. That if the public perception is that 631 00:29:27,773 --> 00:29:29,773 Speaker 3: I don't see gang members as much as I used to, 632 00:29:29,973 --> 00:29:32,133 Speaker 3: then they're not interrupting my life as much as they 633 00:29:32,213 --> 00:29:34,653 Speaker 3: used to. Clearly the government will paint that as one. 634 00:29:35,213 --> 00:29:37,453 Speaker 2: So there's just as much crime going on, but you 635 00:29:37,693 --> 00:29:42,493 Speaker 2: don't feel it because it's not directly influencing or affecting you. Yeah, 636 00:29:42,533 --> 00:29:44,733 Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. I can see a 637 00:29:44,733 --> 00:29:45,533 Speaker 2: logic flaw in that. 638 00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:48,173 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 639 00:29:48,293 --> 00:29:50,933 Speaker 3: It is nineteen to two back in a moment it's done. 640 00:29:51,013 --> 00:29:54,933 Speaker 1: You take on talkbag Matt even Taylor Adams afternoons. Have 641 00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:58,253 Speaker 1: your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk. 642 00:29:58,173 --> 00:30:02,053 Speaker 3: Z'b news talk Z'd be very good afternoon to you. 643 00:30:02,053 --> 00:30:05,293 Speaker 3: We're talking about the gang patch ban legislation coming into 644 00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:06,333 Speaker 3: force next week. 645 00:30:06,653 --> 00:30:08,053 Speaker 2: Hello, and you come your thoughts on this? 646 00:30:08,533 --> 00:30:13,133 Speaker 16: H oh yeah, yeah. The all I'd just like to 647 00:30:13,173 --> 00:30:16,333 Speaker 16: say that we should always be putting there like kind 648 00:30:16,333 --> 00:30:18,933 Speaker 16: of those peatures and all its fitting the peatures to 649 00:30:18,973 --> 00:30:21,653 Speaker 16: do with gains and that's put them down. I put 650 00:30:21,693 --> 00:30:24,573 Speaker 16: them away because I don't know why we even were 651 00:30:24,613 --> 00:30:28,773 Speaker 16: even you're mentioning it was rugby teams and club teams 652 00:30:28,773 --> 00:30:30,453 Speaker 16: and all that. I know what you mean when they 653 00:30:30,493 --> 00:30:33,853 Speaker 16: say you're proud to use it. But we can be 654 00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:36,773 Speaker 16: telling our young kids this year, our boys, would you 655 00:30:36,813 --> 00:30:38,893 Speaker 16: would you edg your son? Would you let your son 656 00:30:38,973 --> 00:30:39,453 Speaker 16: wear once? 657 00:30:40,693 --> 00:30:44,893 Speaker 2: I would be mortified and it would be a worst 658 00:30:45,013 --> 00:30:49,093 Speaker 2: case scenario in my life if one of my sons 659 00:30:49,213 --> 00:30:51,693 Speaker 2: ended up in a gang. I can't I can't even 660 00:30:52,533 --> 00:30:54,733 Speaker 2: fathom how much that would worry me. 661 00:30:55,853 --> 00:30:57,773 Speaker 16: Ex actually so. But what I mean is we just 662 00:30:57,813 --> 00:31:01,293 Speaker 16: got to school that fit there our young people because 663 00:31:01,653 --> 00:31:04,093 Speaker 16: they see it as glory and they're at school really 664 00:31:04,173 --> 00:31:06,973 Speaker 16: you know, when they're the young mind. And that's why 665 00:31:07,013 --> 00:31:09,813 Speaker 16: it's so easy for the games to push drugs for 666 00:31:09,933 --> 00:31:12,453 Speaker 16: our school because they're putting it on the unmeaning the species, 667 00:31:12,493 --> 00:31:15,053 Speaker 16: saying you know, you'll get a bike or a cow 668 00:31:15,213 --> 00:31:17,573 Speaker 16: or anything like that, and you get plenty of money 669 00:31:17,613 --> 00:31:20,293 Speaker 16: and you'll be proud, you know, be proud to do it. 670 00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:23,613 Speaker 16: But we've got to remember that the drug is throwing 671 00:31:23,653 --> 00:31:27,973 Speaker 16: our kids for a fire. Yeah, it's just showing, you know, authorities. 672 00:31:28,133 --> 00:31:29,133 Speaker 17: We got to remember that. 673 00:31:29,253 --> 00:31:32,373 Speaker 16: So we've got to really be harding spoilts for our 674 00:31:32,453 --> 00:31:37,213 Speaker 16: kids that the BETS is staying for fine, mainly crimes, 675 00:31:37,413 --> 00:31:39,933 Speaker 16: right yeah, and we know what they're staying for, so 676 00:31:39,973 --> 00:31:42,733 Speaker 16: we've got to really push it. We can't just get 677 00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:45,133 Speaker 16: it soft on it just because it's right. I know, 678 00:31:45,173 --> 00:31:47,853 Speaker 16: it's you're right, Yeah, we still we can't be soft 679 00:31:47,853 --> 00:31:48,333 Speaker 16: on it mate. 680 00:31:48,453 --> 00:31:50,693 Speaker 3: Well you know, and and most people would agree with that, 681 00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:52,653 Speaker 3: and you can bet as banning the patch, Is that 682 00:31:52,853 --> 00:31:55,533 Speaker 3: going to make us stick a difference in tackling this problem. 683 00:31:56,973 --> 00:31:59,653 Speaker 16: Uh No, it's just not glorifying to day. We can't 684 00:31:59,693 --> 00:32:02,813 Speaker 16: glorify I know, we you know, I just don't glorify it, 685 00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:05,693 Speaker 16: don't they It's not the same as other patches. I 686 00:32:05,733 --> 00:32:08,093 Speaker 16: would rather see my son have a s A is 687 00:32:08,493 --> 00:32:11,573 Speaker 16: bed drawn up from the army or something of that. 688 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,373 Speaker 16: Do you know what I mean? We can't be mentioned that. 689 00:32:14,453 --> 00:32:16,093 Speaker 16: I can't be mentioned it was good bad? 690 00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:19,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting TEXTI on nineteen ninety two. Wonn't they just 691 00:32:19,853 --> 00:32:22,293 Speaker 2: wear the gang colors instead? Red shoes, black and red 692 00:32:22,293 --> 00:32:25,853 Speaker 2: clothes as an example? And yeah, gang patches are actually 693 00:32:25,933 --> 00:32:29,733 Speaker 2: quite a unique New Zealand thing and Australian thing. Gangs 694 00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:34,053 Speaker 2: don't around the world were gang patches. And look, if 695 00:32:34,093 --> 00:32:35,973 Speaker 2: you go to Los Angeles and the Cryps and the Bloods, 696 00:32:36,253 --> 00:32:40,133 Speaker 2: they represent what side they are on by the colors 697 00:32:40,173 --> 00:32:40,653 Speaker 2: that they wear. 698 00:32:40,773 --> 00:32:41,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very true. 699 00:32:41,853 --> 00:32:43,653 Speaker 2: Blue for the Crips and red for the Bloods. 700 00:32:43,733 --> 00:32:45,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can, thank you very much. Always good to 701 00:32:45,893 --> 00:32:46,893 Speaker 3: chant Louise, how. 702 00:32:46,813 --> 00:32:47,333 Speaker 2: Are you. 703 00:32:48,813 --> 00:32:49,053 Speaker 18: Good? 704 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:52,573 Speaker 19: Thank you? Just on the colors thing that that does 705 00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:57,493 Speaker 19: happen here or certainly does an Auckland anyway, and I 706 00:32:57,533 --> 00:33:03,413 Speaker 19: think is an identifying thing. I guess my thoughts on 707 00:33:03,453 --> 00:33:07,773 Speaker 19: the patch situation. I've come from it from a completely 708 00:33:07,773 --> 00:33:13,813 Speaker 19: different So I provide rehabilitation in the community and I 709 00:33:13,973 --> 00:33:17,253 Speaker 19: kind of rely on those patches to know what's going 710 00:33:17,293 --> 00:33:20,853 Speaker 19: on into the houses that I'm going into to see people, 711 00:33:20,853 --> 00:33:24,533 Speaker 19: because I don't get a heads up until I turn up, 712 00:33:24,693 --> 00:33:27,613 Speaker 19: so if all of that disappears in One of the 713 00:33:27,653 --> 00:33:31,253 Speaker 19: things Mark Mitchell said was they would also band patches 714 00:33:31,293 --> 00:33:36,973 Speaker 19: within people's own homes. From a safety perspective, I kind 715 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:40,773 Speaker 19: of need to read the room literally and the street 716 00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:46,093 Speaker 19: to know my safety, what colors I'm safe to wear 717 00:33:46,133 --> 00:33:52,173 Speaker 19: when I go and see a particular client just an 718 00:33:52,373 --> 00:33:56,893 Speaker 19: unforeseen consequence of that banner. It's actually. 719 00:33:58,213 --> 00:33:58,733 Speaker 16: Safety. 720 00:34:00,253 --> 00:34:03,413 Speaker 19: We might not like it, but at least you know 721 00:34:03,453 --> 00:34:04,333 Speaker 19: what you're dealing with. 722 00:34:04,853 --> 00:34:07,693 Speaker 2: That's really interesting, Jess. And so when you go into 723 00:34:07,733 --> 00:34:10,212 Speaker 2: a house and you're trying to help and then you 724 00:34:10,453 --> 00:34:14,093 Speaker 2: see gang insignia and you know that this is a 725 00:34:14,133 --> 00:34:18,093 Speaker 2: house that's that is affiliated with gangs or gangs are about, 726 00:34:18,573 --> 00:34:22,253 Speaker 2: how does that change how you interact with that particular situation. 727 00:34:23,373 --> 00:34:27,733 Speaker 19: So I probably take two people. I wouldn't go on 728 00:34:27,773 --> 00:34:28,172 Speaker 19: my own. 729 00:34:28,413 --> 00:34:29,293 Speaker 15: I've taken that the. 730 00:34:30,853 --> 00:34:34,213 Speaker 19: Therapist with me and we'd go out together, but I 731 00:34:34,213 --> 00:34:37,853 Speaker 19: wouldn't know there. Yeah, I didn't if I didn't see 732 00:34:37,853 --> 00:34:38,453 Speaker 19: the signs. 733 00:34:38,973 --> 00:34:42,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that sorry you continued yess rehab. 734 00:34:42,093 --> 00:34:42,253 Speaker 10: But. 735 00:34:43,693 --> 00:34:44,853 Speaker 19: I give a bit of support. 736 00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:48,893 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that the and it's third reading, the 737 00:34:48,973 --> 00:34:52,373 Speaker 2: changes meant that someone who has two convictions for displaying 738 00:34:52,373 --> 00:34:54,773 Speaker 2: a gang patch could be jailed if they are found 739 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,652 Speaker 2: with gang insignia in their private home or anything with 740 00:34:57,733 --> 00:34:58,693 Speaker 2: gang markings on it. 741 00:34:59,373 --> 00:35:03,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, Luis, just on the wider discussion around gangs and 742 00:35:03,613 --> 00:35:07,173 Speaker 3: their impact on the community, what's your view on that? Clearly, 743 00:35:07,293 --> 00:35:09,013 Speaker 3: I mean, you made your point for very clear about 744 00:35:09,013 --> 00:35:12,693 Speaker 3: the patches that that is a part of keeping yourself safe. 745 00:35:12,733 --> 00:35:15,213 Speaker 3: But gangs in their impact, how do you view that 746 00:35:15,293 --> 00:35:16,733 Speaker 3: as someone that goes into these times. 747 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:22,333 Speaker 19: Oh, it's shocking, and I totally agree with Nwkin saying, 748 00:35:23,533 --> 00:35:26,133 Speaker 19: you know, we shouldn't be glorifying this. This isn't something 749 00:35:26,173 --> 00:35:29,493 Speaker 19: for young particularly young men, to aspire to. But it's 750 00:35:29,573 --> 00:35:32,733 Speaker 19: also young woman who use it as protection, you know, 751 00:35:32,853 --> 00:35:36,252 Speaker 19: so they will affiliate because they feel protected. But the 752 00:35:36,253 --> 00:35:39,933 Speaker 19: amount of violence that I work with that's related to 753 00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:44,973 Speaker 19: gangs and myth is unprecedented. I've never come across it 754 00:35:45,053 --> 00:35:49,013 Speaker 19: in my thirty years of doing this work. It's horrific. 755 00:35:50,053 --> 00:35:53,413 Speaker 2: So, Luise, you know meth became a problem in New zealand' 756 00:35:53,973 --> 00:35:57,053 Speaker 2: you know a you know, decade and a half, two 757 00:35:57,093 --> 00:36:00,933 Speaker 2: decades ago. So how materially has that changed, Because it's 758 00:36:00,933 --> 00:36:04,053 Speaker 2: a little bit different in my eyes with gangs selling 759 00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:07,253 Speaker 2: marijuana than it is gang selling myths. How much have 760 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,933 Speaker 2: you seen that change? 761 00:36:09,493 --> 00:36:16,293 Speaker 19: Oh? I can't begin to tell you how. Yeah, the 762 00:36:16,333 --> 00:36:23,013 Speaker 19: majority of my case floid would be violence related to kidnappings, 763 00:36:23,293 --> 00:36:30,613 Speaker 19: all meth related hideous incidents. It sounds like I'm confabulating, 764 00:36:30,933 --> 00:36:32,813 Speaker 19: but I'm not. I wish I was, but I'm not. 765 00:36:33,453 --> 00:36:33,652 Speaker 20: Yeah. 766 00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,573 Speaker 2: Well, I know people that have come from really good 767 00:36:35,613 --> 00:36:39,773 Speaker 2: backgrounds and that have had every opportunity and chance in 768 00:36:39,933 --> 00:36:43,933 Speaker 2: life who have become addicted to meth. And the depth 769 00:36:44,013 --> 00:36:46,533 Speaker 2: that they've sunk to and the terrible things that they've done. 770 00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:51,453 Speaker 2: It's a scourged It's unbelievable. You can have a person 771 00:36:51,573 --> 00:36:56,453 Speaker 2: who becomes a completely and utterly different human being. You 772 00:36:56,493 --> 00:36:58,773 Speaker 2: can have someone that will change from a good person 773 00:36:58,853 --> 00:37:03,173 Speaker 2: that cares about people to someone that is behaving in 774 00:37:03,373 --> 00:37:07,213 Speaker 2: an evil manner that would have disgusted themselves. It probably 775 00:37:07,213 --> 00:37:10,973 Speaker 2: discussed them Now to discuss themselves leaves into more more myth, 776 00:37:12,373 --> 00:37:16,373 Speaker 2: myth and fear. To me is it's depressing and shocking 777 00:37:16,493 --> 00:37:19,813 Speaker 2: and just yeah, I like, I feel for you having 778 00:37:19,813 --> 00:37:21,533 Speaker 2: to deal with in that in that world. It must be, 779 00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:24,453 Speaker 2: it must be, it must be so difficulty. 780 00:37:25,453 --> 00:37:28,493 Speaker 3: Final question for you, Louise, what is the solution in 781 00:37:28,533 --> 00:37:30,133 Speaker 3: your eyes? I mean, what do we need to do 782 00:37:30,213 --> 00:37:33,933 Speaker 3: as a society to deal with what you witness on 783 00:37:33,973 --> 00:37:34,893 Speaker 3: a weekly basis? 784 00:37:37,373 --> 00:37:41,493 Speaker 19: Gosh, I don't I don't have any answers to that. 785 00:37:41,773 --> 00:37:42,613 Speaker 15: I really don't. 786 00:37:42,733 --> 00:37:46,933 Speaker 19: I think myth is as we just said, you know, 787 00:37:47,653 --> 00:37:56,133 Speaker 19: get rid of there and my casely reduced. It's I 788 00:37:56,133 --> 00:37:59,172 Speaker 19: think that's you know, it's actually dealing with what they 789 00:37:59,853 --> 00:38:03,652 Speaker 19: the crimes they're committing, rather than the patch. Than the 790 00:38:03,693 --> 00:38:06,573 Speaker 19: patch is just I don't know, society issue in my 791 00:38:06,933 --> 00:38:07,613 Speaker 19: in my mind. 792 00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:10,253 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call, Louise, thank 793 00:38:10,293 --> 00:38:10,853 Speaker 2: you for sharing that. 794 00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:11,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, great call. 795 00:38:12,093 --> 00:38:13,893 Speaker 2: So I one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you 796 00:38:13,973 --> 00:38:19,613 Speaker 2: think the patch, the gang patch ban will will do anything? Yeah, 797 00:38:19,813 --> 00:38:21,172 Speaker 2: boy boy mes. 798 00:38:20,933 --> 00:38:23,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, seven to two back in a. 799 00:38:23,013 --> 00:38:30,253 Speaker 1: Month, Matteath, Tyler Adams teaking your calls on Math and 800 00:38:30,293 --> 00:38:32,613 Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons. 801 00:38:32,013 --> 00:38:35,493 Speaker 3: News Talks B, News Talks B. It's five to two. 802 00:38:36,173 --> 00:38:36,413 Speaker 20: Yeah. 803 00:38:36,453 --> 00:38:40,013 Speaker 2: So we're talking about the gang patch ban. And this 804 00:38:40,053 --> 00:38:43,292 Speaker 2: is why I'm really enjoying my move to talk back 805 00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:45,893 Speaker 2: because you have a strong opinion and then you get 806 00:38:45,973 --> 00:38:49,172 Speaker 2: questioned by callers as you go through. And my gut 807 00:38:49,173 --> 00:38:53,253 Speaker 2: feeling is still that the the banning of gang patches 808 00:38:53,293 --> 00:38:55,732 Speaker 2: will have an effect on gangs because they wear them 809 00:38:55,773 --> 00:38:57,813 Speaker 2: because it makes them feel cool and it makes them 810 00:38:57,813 --> 00:39:01,093 Speaker 2: feel emboldened. But then you've got Craig coming in with 811 00:39:01,173 --> 00:39:03,213 Speaker 2: the Bill of Rights and Free Speech, which I'm a 812 00:39:03,293 --> 00:39:05,693 Speaker 2: huge spider of And you've got Louise who's in the 813 00:39:05,733 --> 00:39:07,773 Speaker 2: cold face and she wants to know that people are 814 00:39:07,773 --> 00:39:10,133 Speaker 2: gangs before she has to go into houses to try 815 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:14,813 Speaker 2: and help. So there's so many gray areas, But I 816 00:39:14,893 --> 00:39:16,813 Speaker 2: think one thing that we can all agree on is 817 00:39:17,053 --> 00:39:19,893 Speaker 2: we have got to come to find a solution to 818 00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:24,053 Speaker 2: myth and myth and fetamine abuse and the damage that 819 00:39:24,093 --> 00:39:27,573 Speaker 2: it does in our country is so depressing and so 820 00:39:27,773 --> 00:39:32,813 Speaker 2: invasive and so bad that and the gangs are involved 821 00:39:32,813 --> 00:39:35,373 Speaker 2: in that. So we have to come up with a solution. 822 00:39:35,533 --> 00:39:37,413 Speaker 2: No one's come up with a solution that's worked yet, 823 00:39:37,693 --> 00:39:39,293 Speaker 2: but we need to come up with a solution for 824 00:39:39,613 --> 00:39:41,293 Speaker 2: meth and fhetamine in this country. 825 00:39:41,613 --> 00:39:44,093 Speaker 3: Nicely said, yeah, absolutely insidious. 826 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:44,333 Speaker 21: Right. 827 00:39:44,373 --> 00:39:46,973 Speaker 3: That is where we'll leave a good discussion, deep discussion. 828 00:39:46,973 --> 00:39:49,652 Speaker 3: We're going to change it up after two o'clock. We 829 00:39:49,693 --> 00:39:52,453 Speaker 3: want to talk about the cost of kids sport. Concerned 830 00:39:52,453 --> 00:39:55,213 Speaker 3: from a Nelson swim coach that it is becoming elitist 831 00:39:55,733 --> 00:39:58,373 Speaker 3: in terms of the amount of money parents have to 832 00:39:58,373 --> 00:40:00,893 Speaker 3: pay to get their kids into various sports. Oh, eight 833 00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:02,973 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to cool 834 00:40:03,013 --> 00:40:04,613 Speaker 3: love to hear from you on this one. Nine two 835 00:40:04,693 --> 00:40:07,733 Speaker 3: nine two is the text number. News, Sport and weather 836 00:40:07,853 --> 00:40:10,093 Speaker 3: on its way. Great to have your company. As always, 837 00:40:10,093 --> 00:40:11,013 Speaker 3: we'll see on the other. 838 00:40:10,893 --> 00:40:18,213 Speaker 1: Side talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Tyler 839 00:40:18,253 --> 00:40:22,653 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News Talk SIB. 840 00:40:23,413 --> 00:40:26,013 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. It is seven 841 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,653 Speaker 3: pass two, very very good to have your company. 842 00:40:28,893 --> 00:40:29,093 Speaker 10: Right. 843 00:40:29,173 --> 00:40:32,013 Speaker 3: A story that's caught our interest this morning and it's 844 00:40:32,053 --> 00:40:34,853 Speaker 3: to do with the cost of kids sport. Nelson's largest 845 00:40:34,853 --> 00:40:38,413 Speaker 3: swim club is facing an uncertain future as the astronomical 846 00:40:38,453 --> 00:40:41,413 Speaker 3: price of hiring lanes at the city's public pools puts 847 00:40:41,453 --> 00:40:44,453 Speaker 3: pressures on swimmers and their parents. So during winter, the 848 00:40:44,493 --> 00:40:48,693 Speaker 3: Nelson's South Swim Club moves from its summer home to 849 00:40:48,893 --> 00:40:52,812 Speaker 3: Riverside Pool, which is a council operated indoor swimming pool. 850 00:40:53,373 --> 00:40:57,093 Speaker 3: The lane higher has climbed to forty dollars per lane 851 00:40:57,173 --> 00:41:01,133 Speaker 3: per hour this year, so coach Glenn Finlace is the 852 00:41:01,173 --> 00:41:03,773 Speaker 3: cost as an obstacle and has already resulted in about 853 00:41:03,773 --> 00:41:06,293 Speaker 3: twenty kids dropping out of the club. He says it's 854 00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,973 Speaker 3: a big barrier to enter and it's increasing hard to 855 00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:12,373 Speaker 3: rank retained He went on to say that swimming, as 856 00:41:12,373 --> 00:41:14,692 Speaker 3: we know, is a healthy exercise for children and had 857 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:18,453 Speaker 3: mental health, self confidence, and social benefits. It's just really 858 00:41:18,493 --> 00:41:22,013 Speaker 3: sad to me, he says, it's not prioritized because the children. 859 00:41:22,253 --> 00:41:24,853 Speaker 3: The cost is generally falling back on families to pay, 860 00:41:24,893 --> 00:41:27,293 Speaker 3: and kid sport is becoming elitist. 861 00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:31,732 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting perspective because sport has always been 862 00:41:31,813 --> 00:41:36,213 Speaker 2: seen as the great leveler in our society, where people 863 00:41:36,253 --> 00:41:42,013 Speaker 2: from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can really show themselves and move 864 00:41:42,133 --> 00:41:44,573 Speaker 2: up in a way against everyone else. Because you know, 865 00:41:44,773 --> 00:41:48,213 Speaker 2: just money doesn't mean ability. But that's a problem when 866 00:41:48,413 --> 00:41:52,613 Speaker 2: your ability to participate in sport is out of your 867 00:41:52,653 --> 00:41:55,373 Speaker 2: means because of the cost. So I'd be interested on 868 00:41:55,373 --> 00:41:57,413 Speaker 2: our an one hundred and eighty ten eighty to hear 869 00:41:57,453 --> 00:42:00,293 Speaker 2: from people who haven't been able to put their kids 870 00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:03,333 Speaker 2: into sport, or have had to make great sacrifices to 871 00:42:03,853 --> 00:42:07,213 Speaker 2: get their kids into sport because of the cost. Yeah, 872 00:42:07,373 --> 00:42:11,133 Speaker 2: or have just been surprised by it. Now on a 873 00:42:11,133 --> 00:42:14,652 Speaker 2: personal level, I'm a huge cricket fan, so my son 874 00:42:14,693 --> 00:42:18,133 Speaker 2: played cricket and I was pretty amazed at the cost 875 00:42:18,173 --> 00:42:20,213 Speaker 2: of all the gear that I had to get him 876 00:42:20,213 --> 00:42:22,732 Speaker 2: to play cricket. Cricket is a really expensive sport. Doesn't 877 00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:25,692 Speaker 2: start up expensive when they're little and they're playing key 878 00:42:25,693 --> 00:42:27,973 Speaker 2: with cricket that doesn't cost very much at all. You 879 00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:31,093 Speaker 2: get yourself a bit of a yellow plastic bat and 880 00:42:31,213 --> 00:42:35,933 Speaker 2: some of those incredibles and you're good to go. But 881 00:42:36,173 --> 00:42:39,013 Speaker 2: once if they move up and they show any any 882 00:42:39,133 --> 00:42:42,253 Speaker 2: skill in it, there's not the thing anymore. And maybe 883 00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:46,493 Speaker 2: I was at the wrong cricket club or I'm not sure, 884 00:42:46,533 --> 00:42:51,293 Speaker 2: but the club didn't really supply the gear for the cats. 885 00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:52,933 Speaker 3: It was up to you as dead as a parent 886 00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:54,212 Speaker 3: to supply that gear. 887 00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:56,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I was coaching my son's cricket 888 00:42:56,933 --> 00:43:00,172 Speaker 2: team for a while, but just going through roughly, this 889 00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:02,933 Speaker 2: is how much it costs to cut my son out 890 00:43:02,933 --> 00:43:05,333 Speaker 2: as he got better onto hard ball cricket YEP. One 891 00:43:05,413 --> 00:43:06,853 Speaker 2: hundred and five dollars for the bat, one hundred and 892 00:43:06,853 --> 00:43:08,853 Speaker 2: twenty nine dollars for the thigh pad, hundred and eighty 893 00:43:08,853 --> 00:43:10,413 Speaker 2: dollars for the boots, ninety dollars for the gloves, one 894 00:43:10,453 --> 00:43:12,333 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty dollars for the pads, one hundred and 895 00:43:12,373 --> 00:43:15,253 Speaker 2: twenty dollars for the helmet, ten dollars for the box 896 00:43:15,533 --> 00:43:19,652 Speaker 2: you skimp on that, and a ninety dollars bag, so 897 00:43:19,693 --> 00:43:21,573 Speaker 2: that all came to eight hundred and twenty four dollars. 898 00:43:21,613 --> 00:43:26,613 Speaker 2: And I am fortunate, out of pure luck to end 899 00:43:26,693 --> 00:43:29,133 Speaker 2: up in a broadcasting job where I can afford to 900 00:43:29,133 --> 00:43:33,493 Speaker 2: spend that much money on my kids cricket gear. But 901 00:43:33,693 --> 00:43:36,373 Speaker 2: there is peer pressure from kids as well to have 902 00:43:37,493 --> 00:43:40,133 Speaker 2: the good gear, and it's not nice to be the 903 00:43:40,173 --> 00:43:42,013 Speaker 2: kid that turns up. And look, when I was a kid, 904 00:43:42,253 --> 00:43:44,813 Speaker 2: my dad stayed at university till quite late in life. 905 00:43:45,053 --> 00:43:47,413 Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, I couldn't play football 906 00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:49,813 Speaker 2: one season because we couldn't afford the boots. And it 907 00:43:49,853 --> 00:43:54,013 Speaker 2: wasn't until my cousin gave me his football boots that 908 00:43:54,053 --> 00:43:55,772 Speaker 2: I could join the team. I was trying to play 909 00:43:55,773 --> 00:43:58,533 Speaker 2: and beer feet and the coach wouldn't let me, and 910 00:43:59,493 --> 00:44:03,133 Speaker 2: and barter bullets. But you know, and luck we ended 911 00:44:03,213 --> 00:44:05,373 Speaker 2: up being fine as a family. But at that point 912 00:44:05,373 --> 00:44:09,733 Speaker 2: we went well off. And I know back in the 913 00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:13,253 Speaker 2: day as well, you know, shoes and boots and all 914 00:44:13,293 --> 00:44:15,173 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff were a lot more more expensive 915 00:44:15,173 --> 00:44:18,493 Speaker 2: in the eighties. Yeah, but it would be a real 916 00:44:19,013 --> 00:44:21,973 Speaker 2: pity if kids couldn't participate in the sport that they're 917 00:44:21,973 --> 00:44:24,253 Speaker 2: good at because they couldn't their parents couldn't afford to 918 00:44:24,253 --> 00:44:24,413 Speaker 2: do it. 919 00:44:24,533 --> 00:44:26,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well was that old line that used to 920 00:44:26,493 --> 00:44:28,773 Speaker 3: be touted kids in sports day out of court, and 921 00:44:28,813 --> 00:44:30,732 Speaker 3: it was a nice line, but it had a lot 922 00:44:30,893 --> 00:44:31,933 Speaker 3: of meaning behind it. 923 00:44:32,013 --> 00:44:32,373 Speaker 2: Right there. 924 00:44:32,413 --> 00:44:35,893 Speaker 3: You get kids involved in these social clubs and sporting 925 00:44:35,933 --> 00:44:37,573 Speaker 3: clubs and it is good for them. And as this 926 00:44:37,693 --> 00:44:42,293 Speaker 3: coach said, mental health, your physical health, you know your 927 00:44:42,333 --> 00:44:46,013 Speaker 3: place in society, self confidence, the social benefits are numerous. 928 00:44:46,453 --> 00:44:48,773 Speaker 3: And the fact that it is costing in this case 929 00:44:48,853 --> 00:44:52,213 Speaker 3: forty bucks per laye per hour, that's a big cost. 930 00:44:52,253 --> 00:44:54,293 Speaker 3: They have to pass that on to the parents. And 931 00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:55,973 Speaker 3: I shouldn't laugh when you said you wanted to play 932 00:44:55,973 --> 00:44:58,773 Speaker 3: football when you're in bear feats, because that is the 933 00:44:58,853 --> 00:45:00,253 Speaker 3: case for a lot of kids out there at the 934 00:45:00,253 --> 00:45:02,893 Speaker 3: moment right if their parents can't afford these boots, which 935 00:45:02,933 --> 00:45:06,413 Speaker 3: what at a bare minimum would be maybe eighty bucks, 936 00:45:06,933 --> 00:45:08,973 Speaker 3: and then you've got to pay the sub then you've 937 00:45:08,973 --> 00:45:11,133 Speaker 3: got to sometimes you've got to try and fundraise to 938 00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:13,773 Speaker 3: get them around the country. Love to hear from you, Oh, 939 00:45:13,773 --> 00:45:16,333 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is kids sport becoming 940 00:45:16,373 --> 00:45:17,253 Speaker 3: a bit elitist. 941 00:45:17,613 --> 00:45:21,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, and have you been surprised by how much you've 942 00:45:21,133 --> 00:45:23,133 Speaker 2: had to spend on your kids sports? And as that 943 00:45:24,093 --> 00:45:26,973 Speaker 2: or is the sky wrong and that there's plenty of 944 00:45:27,173 --> 00:45:29,253 Speaker 2: support out there and if your kid wants to play 945 00:45:29,293 --> 00:45:31,693 Speaker 2: sport then then people are stepping up to provide the 946 00:45:31,693 --> 00:45:33,533 Speaker 2: gift for them. One hundred eighteen eighty. 947 00:45:33,653 --> 00:45:36,773 Speaker 3: It is twelve past two. 948 00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:39,813 Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams 949 00:45:39,853 --> 00:45:43,453 Speaker 1: Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk. 950 00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:47,093 Speaker 3: ZEDV News Talks. Be very very good afternoon to you. 951 00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:49,533 Speaker 3: We're talking about the cost to get your kids into 952 00:45:49,693 --> 00:45:52,212 Speaker 3: sport and a cost of living situation as we've had 953 00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:55,253 Speaker 3: for the last twelve months, it is becoming increasingly harder 954 00:45:55,573 --> 00:45:57,373 Speaker 3: for parents to do that. This is on the back 955 00:45:57,413 --> 00:46:00,893 Speaker 3: of a swim coach and Nelson who said that they 956 00:46:00,933 --> 00:46:03,253 Speaker 3: are losing kids left, right and center from the club 957 00:46:03,453 --> 00:46:06,333 Speaker 3: on the back of what they call astronomical pricing of 958 00:46:06,413 --> 00:46:08,693 Speaker 3: hiring the poll that they need over winter. 959 00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:11,133 Speaker 2: You would think that swimming would be a cheap sport. 960 00:46:11,213 --> 00:46:13,813 Speaker 2: You just need speedo and some goggles and you go. 961 00:46:14,173 --> 00:46:17,853 Speaker 2: But the lad well you're faster shav your legs and 962 00:46:17,853 --> 00:46:20,613 Speaker 2: you go faster than a speeder. Yeah, but I'll be 963 00:46:20,653 --> 00:46:24,053 Speaker 2: interested to know how much it costs to play rugby 964 00:46:24,053 --> 00:46:27,252 Speaker 2: these days. And obviously, as I said, before primary school age, 965 00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:30,733 Speaker 2: it's a lot cheaper, and as they get better at 966 00:46:30,733 --> 00:46:32,853 Speaker 2: a sport, it becomes more expensive. And when you get 967 00:46:32,853 --> 00:46:37,133 Speaker 2: to high school there is gear provided, but it's not 968 00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:41,093 Speaker 2: necessarily the best gear, and as you end up as 969 00:46:41,093 --> 00:46:45,093 Speaker 2: a parent really having to buy your kids better gear 970 00:46:45,133 --> 00:46:47,772 Speaker 2: than they've been provided by school. Although, to be fair, 971 00:46:47,813 --> 00:46:50,413 Speaker 2: my son and his last year of school, I was 972 00:46:50,453 --> 00:46:55,413 Speaker 2: really amazed. The head of physical education at his school 973 00:46:55,493 --> 00:46:58,293 Speaker 2: is an amazing person and managed to organize the money 974 00:46:58,293 --> 00:47:01,933 Speaker 2: through fundraising to get him some really really spectacular gear 975 00:47:02,013 --> 00:47:04,213 Speaker 2: not for him but for the team in general that 976 00:47:04,253 --> 00:47:06,893 Speaker 2: he was playing. And people do so much in the 977 00:47:06,933 --> 00:47:09,573 Speaker 2: community to help kids into sport because we all know 978 00:47:09,653 --> 00:47:11,613 Speaker 2: how good sport is for kids. 979 00:47:11,693 --> 00:47:11,973 Speaker 9: Yeah. 980 00:47:12,013 --> 00:47:13,613 Speaker 2: I mean, if you can have your kids sitting at 981 00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:19,173 Speaker 2: home playing video games or sitting on social media slamming 982 00:47:19,253 --> 00:47:21,853 Speaker 2: junk food, or you can have them really really excited 983 00:47:21,893 --> 00:47:24,172 Speaker 2: about sport, then I think it's a no brainer. What's 984 00:47:24,213 --> 00:47:24,692 Speaker 2: better for them. 985 00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:26,453 Speaker 3: Definitely, if you're one of those people give us a 986 00:47:26,453 --> 00:47:28,173 Speaker 3: buzz oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If 987 00:47:28,213 --> 00:47:29,933 Speaker 3: you're part of a sports club, love to hear from 988 00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:31,733 Speaker 3: you you as well, How hard is it for some 989 00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:35,413 Speaker 3: parents to keep their kids at the club? Get aden here? 990 00:47:35,453 --> 00:47:38,853 Speaker 3: You are the going you could. So you've spent quite 991 00:47:38,893 --> 00:47:41,293 Speaker 3: a bit of money for your two young boys to 992 00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:42,692 Speaker 3: play football this year. 993 00:47:43,813 --> 00:47:44,973 Speaker 22: Made it's astronomical. 994 00:47:45,373 --> 00:47:46,813 Speaker 5: I mean I think we're sort of, yeah, four or 995 00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:50,172 Speaker 5: five hundred bucks in fees and subs, and then you've 996 00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:53,053 Speaker 5: got one hundred bucks each for cats and a hundred. 997 00:47:52,853 --> 00:47:55,373 Speaker 22: Bucks each for boats. And then on top of that, 998 00:47:55,453 --> 00:47:57,692 Speaker 22: you have to pay for private training because being part 999 00:47:57,693 --> 00:48:00,813 Speaker 22: of the club doesn't actually provide you any training. So 1000 00:48:00,853 --> 00:48:03,733 Speaker 22: you've got to facilitate that yourself as a parent, or 1001 00:48:03,813 --> 00:48:06,293 Speaker 22: share it around the parent group or whatever this whatever 1002 00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:06,613 Speaker 22: the case. 1003 00:48:06,653 --> 00:48:09,253 Speaker 5: Ov But one person has to be manager, one person 1004 00:48:09,253 --> 00:48:11,093 Speaker 5: has to coordinate, one person as a coach. 1005 00:48:11,693 --> 00:48:13,093 Speaker 23: On top of all that, you're going to take keeps 1006 00:48:13,173 --> 00:48:16,013 Speaker 23: time off to potentially make it happen. Yeah, yeah, I 1007 00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:17,172 Speaker 23: mean that's good, that's great. 1008 00:48:17,253 --> 00:48:20,213 Speaker 22: It's great for them to get involved. You know, spend 1009 00:48:20,213 --> 00:48:22,813 Speaker 22: any money I had to make that happen. But Jesus 1010 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:23,373 Speaker 22: not cheap. 1011 00:48:23,573 --> 00:48:26,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and then just on a very 1012 00:48:26,293 --> 00:48:31,013 Speaker 2: basic level transport because you know, and my kids played 1013 00:48:31,013 --> 00:48:34,053 Speaker 2: sport in Auckland and it always seemed to be always 1014 00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:37,453 Speaker 2: seemed to be playing in East Auckland, or they always 1015 00:48:37,453 --> 00:48:40,373 Speaker 2: seem to be playing the furthest away you could possibly imagine. Yeah, 1016 00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:43,253 Speaker 2: you know, forty five minute, hour and a half drives 1017 00:48:43,253 --> 00:48:44,173 Speaker 2: to get to the games. 1018 00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:45,172 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if we. 1019 00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:47,453 Speaker 5: Look at more help, you're talking about before the days 1020 00:48:47,453 --> 00:48:49,772 Speaker 5: of having a share of box are gone and long 1021 00:48:49,813 --> 00:48:50,813 Speaker 5: behind us, which is good. 1022 00:48:51,973 --> 00:48:52,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good thing. 1023 00:48:53,173 --> 00:48:57,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You just spit on it, wipe 1024 00:48:57,893 --> 00:48:58,733 Speaker 2: a sock on it and go. 1025 00:48:59,093 --> 00:49:00,053 Speaker 4: You boil. 1026 00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:05,893 Speaker 23: It as well, the soaking wet heads and they come off. 1027 00:49:07,853 --> 00:49:11,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're wearing pads. I remember when I played cricket. 1028 00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:14,253 Speaker 2: You're wearing pads. You're running like a duck, you're falling 1029 00:49:14,293 --> 00:49:18,573 Speaker 2: over in runs, they're flopping around the back. Yeah. 1030 00:49:18,653 --> 00:49:21,253 Speaker 3: Yeah. So for you as a parent, Dan, you know, 1031 00:49:21,293 --> 00:49:23,732 Speaker 3: there's there was a call by New Zealand Amateur Sport 1032 00:49:23,773 --> 00:49:28,293 Speaker 3: Association for a universal student sports subs subsidy paid by 1033 00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:30,413 Speaker 3: the government to enable all students to be part of 1034 00:49:30,413 --> 00:49:32,573 Speaker 3: a school team. Do you think that would be value 1035 00:49:32,613 --> 00:49:33,053 Speaker 3: for money. 1036 00:49:34,373 --> 00:49:36,973 Speaker 24: I definitely think it would in certain parts of the city, 1037 00:49:37,293 --> 00:49:40,013 Speaker 24: in the country obviously, and a lot of the inner 1038 00:49:40,013 --> 00:49:43,693 Speaker 24: city suburbs. Parents can't afford to fund that sort of 1039 00:49:43,693 --> 00:49:46,293 Speaker 24: stuff themself, and yeah, definitely got on them, you know 1040 00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:48,413 Speaker 24: what I mean. But it's certainly not cheap. 1041 00:49:48,733 --> 00:49:52,093 Speaker 5: No, yeah, absolutely, if there's some help for people one 1042 00:49:52,173 --> 00:49:53,773 Speaker 5: hundred percent behind it. 1043 00:49:53,893 --> 00:49:54,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, nice one. 1044 00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:57,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's things as well, like my kids got into rowing, 1045 00:49:57,973 --> 00:50:01,053 Speaker 2: and that is an incredibly expensive sport, as you can imagine, 1046 00:50:01,093 --> 00:50:04,253 Speaker 2: but there was a system set up in the subs 1047 00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:07,853 Speaker 2: where people that could afford to play pay more did. 1048 00:50:08,453 --> 00:50:11,613 Speaker 2: And then there was secret spots that were in there 1049 00:50:11,653 --> 00:50:14,453 Speaker 2: for people that were interested and it could show talent, 1050 00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:17,253 Speaker 2: but they could be part of it and their fees 1051 00:50:17,493 --> 00:50:20,173 Speaker 2: were covered by the other parents paying more. So parents 1052 00:50:20,213 --> 00:50:22,893 Speaker 2: do a lot. Yeah, And you know, and as you mentioned, 1053 00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:26,773 Speaker 2: coaches and organizers and that huge amount of effort that's 1054 00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:28,693 Speaker 2: been put in is just a beautiful thing. You know, 1055 00:50:28,733 --> 00:50:31,172 Speaker 2: the fact that people will take their time and you know, 1056 00:50:32,013 --> 00:50:34,973 Speaker 2: teachers at schools that will take time above and beyond 1057 00:50:35,093 --> 00:50:37,693 Speaker 2: what they already do to teach kids, and then parents 1058 00:50:37,733 --> 00:50:41,893 Speaker 2: that will coach kids. All that stuff is phenomenal and 1059 00:50:41,933 --> 00:50:44,373 Speaker 2: it is an economic input, even though you can't put 1060 00:50:44,693 --> 00:50:46,973 Speaker 2: a financial figure on it, because you know, if you're 1061 00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:48,973 Speaker 2: coaching a team, you're having to leave work at you know, 1062 00:50:49,013 --> 00:50:52,173 Speaker 2: at three point thirty to coach that team. You have 1063 00:50:52,213 --> 00:50:53,373 Speaker 2: to make a sacrifice for it. 1064 00:50:53,413 --> 00:50:56,133 Speaker 3: Those volunteers. Great New Zealander is absolutely just on the 1065 00:50:56,333 --> 00:51:00,373 Speaker 3: uniforms man, Yeah, because a lot gets made of school uniforms, right, 1066 00:51:00,413 --> 00:51:02,173 Speaker 3: and the price for school uniforms it's a bit of 1067 00:51:02,213 --> 00:51:04,933 Speaker 3: a rought and they shouldn't be that expensive. Is that 1068 00:51:05,093 --> 00:51:09,172 Speaker 3: a little bit at play with sports uniforms that they 1069 00:51:09,213 --> 00:51:11,733 Speaker 3: don't probably don't need to be as expensive as they 1070 00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:13,013 Speaker 3: are for parents. 1071 00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:17,293 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure about that. 1072 00:51:18,653 --> 00:51:20,933 Speaker 2: You know, when my kids played for clubs, it's a 1073 00:51:20,973 --> 00:51:23,213 Speaker 2: bit different. When you go you play for clubs and 1074 00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:24,413 Speaker 2: you play for high school, you're going to have to 1075 00:51:24,413 --> 00:51:28,613 Speaker 2: buy their sports uniforms. Yeah, I mean there's definitely a cost. 1076 00:51:28,653 --> 00:51:30,533 Speaker 2: Someone might be able to help me on that. I 1077 00:51:30,613 --> 00:51:35,053 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty how much are sports uniforms 1078 00:51:35,173 --> 00:51:37,292 Speaker 2: costing at each level when they're playing at club level 1079 00:51:37,293 --> 00:51:40,453 Speaker 2: and then they go to high school Because that's another 1080 00:51:40,493 --> 00:51:44,053 Speaker 2: thing as well. And if someone's texting through you know, 1081 00:51:44,093 --> 00:51:46,973 Speaker 2: you can get boots on Marketplace and such and get 1082 00:51:46,973 --> 00:51:49,933 Speaker 2: them cheaper. And definitely you can look around and find 1083 00:51:50,013 --> 00:51:53,813 Speaker 2: your uniform secondhand. There's a wash of kids that have 1084 00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:56,253 Speaker 2: pulled out or kids that have grown older, but it's 1085 00:51:56,333 --> 00:52:00,973 Speaker 2: different expense and if you've got two, three, four kids. 1086 00:52:01,173 --> 00:52:03,533 Speaker 3: It really rocks up there, definitely does I eight hundred 1087 00:52:03,653 --> 00:52:05,212 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1088 00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:05,493 Speaker 10: Dan. 1089 00:52:05,533 --> 00:52:07,212 Speaker 3: You're a good man, thanks for giving us a buzz. 1090 00:52:07,253 --> 00:52:08,652 Speaker 3: It's twenty one pass too. 1091 00:52:13,813 --> 00:52:17,493 Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tayler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty 1092 00:52:17,773 --> 00:52:19,133 Speaker 1: eighty on Youth Talk ZV. 1093 00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:22,413 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it's twenty three past two and we're talking 1094 00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:25,213 Speaker 3: about the cost of kids sport being astronomical for a 1095 00:52:25,213 --> 00:52:26,933 Speaker 3: lot of parents. Love to hear your thoughts on eight 1096 00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:27,973 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1097 00:52:28,133 --> 00:52:33,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been positive that sport in New Zealand, in 1098 00:52:33,173 --> 00:52:36,772 Speaker 2: some sports, is becoming only for the elite. This text 1099 00:52:36,773 --> 00:52:38,613 Speaker 2: aro on nine two nine two at our Cricket Club, 1100 00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:42,093 Speaker 2: the home of the nine I Express You and Chatfield, brilliant, 1101 00:52:42,333 --> 00:52:44,373 Speaker 2: Charlie Chatfield. We still have to drink out of our 1102 00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:46,772 Speaker 2: us sweaty box of the player who scored the ton 1103 00:52:46,813 --> 00:52:50,253 Speaker 2: that day gets passed around. Great for team building in camaraderie. 1104 00:52:50,253 --> 00:52:53,333 Speaker 2: That's sort of off topic that one, but I'm not 1105 00:52:53,373 --> 00:52:55,652 Speaker 2: sure of the health ramifications of that. 1106 00:52:55,733 --> 00:52:57,812 Speaker 3: Does the player who got the ton have to drink 1107 00:52:57,813 --> 00:53:00,813 Speaker 3: out of the swoty box? I suppose not, Peter, how 1108 00:53:00,813 --> 00:53:01,212 Speaker 3: are you? 1109 00:53:02,253 --> 00:53:02,453 Speaker 8: Hey? 1110 00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:08,693 Speaker 10: You guys, my daughter is a water poloed closes like 1111 00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:13,333 Speaker 10: the swimming pool. The seas huge each tournament, and they're 1112 00:53:13,373 --> 00:53:16,613 Speaker 10: saying to me about four per year is about a 1113 00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:22,093 Speaker 10: thousand bucks. WHOA, yeah, we're we're The cost is also 1114 00:53:22,253 --> 00:53:27,692 Speaker 10: hard for the parent taking time off. Yeh, loser, you leave, 1115 00:53:28,293 --> 00:53:30,933 Speaker 10: it's just gone, you know, especially if you're driving up 1116 00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:33,493 Speaker 10: in your car pulled to make it cheap, or sometimes 1117 00:53:33,493 --> 00:53:35,733 Speaker 10: it's stible to fly it. You know, you don't have 1118 00:53:35,773 --> 00:53:37,573 Speaker 10: to leave on a Friday, so you're taking the work 1119 00:53:37,693 --> 00:53:40,053 Speaker 10: day off work on Friday and then taking a day 1120 00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:43,813 Speaker 10: off work on Mondays to attend the tourtments. And it's 1121 00:53:43,973 --> 00:53:46,293 Speaker 10: you know, you do what you can as a as 1122 00:53:46,333 --> 00:53:47,253 Speaker 10: a parent, but. 1123 00:53:47,773 --> 00:53:49,973 Speaker 16: Holy cow, it's it's not cheap. 1124 00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:53,453 Speaker 10: It's uniform wise. You know, you have to buy a 1125 00:53:53,493 --> 00:53:56,453 Speaker 10: special special tag what is about one hundred and thirty 1126 00:53:56,493 --> 00:53:59,493 Speaker 10: five bucks, you know, and buy that off the club 1127 00:53:59,853 --> 00:54:02,253 Speaker 10: and you know, swimming camps and all that, and like 1128 00:54:02,293 --> 00:54:05,453 Speaker 10: you said, full time and yeah, it just ends up quick. 1129 00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,493 Speaker 10: But I was under saying that when I was in 1130 00:54:09,013 --> 00:54:12,772 Speaker 10: American football here in London, I bought all my own 1131 00:54:12,853 --> 00:54:16,252 Speaker 10: gear as a club. The club did supply their own, 1132 00:54:16,293 --> 00:54:18,653 Speaker 10: but that was close to a thousand dollars. 1133 00:54:19,013 --> 00:54:19,133 Speaker 25: MM. 1134 00:54:20,413 --> 00:54:24,692 Speaker 10: It really hasn't changed that much too much over the years. 1135 00:54:24,693 --> 00:54:24,853 Speaker 5: You know. 1136 00:54:24,973 --> 00:54:27,173 Speaker 10: If you want your own stuff and you want a 1137 00:54:27,213 --> 00:54:30,773 Speaker 10: particular brand or model or like you said, the better 1138 00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:33,733 Speaker 10: of the helmet, says the club. 1139 00:54:33,653 --> 00:54:34,652 Speaker 17: You're going to pay for that. 1140 00:54:34,893 --> 00:54:38,573 Speaker 10: And I do think there should be a cap at 1141 00:54:38,613 --> 00:54:42,493 Speaker 10: some stages. Some surize that, especially if you're a solo parent, 1142 00:54:42,533 --> 00:54:45,933 Speaker 10: because you want your kid to be involved in anything 1143 00:54:45,933 --> 00:54:49,252 Speaker 10: and everything they can, right, and it's you know, keeps 1144 00:54:49,293 --> 00:54:52,893 Speaker 10: them off the phones and yad the card work. 1145 00:54:52,973 --> 00:54:54,533 Speaker 15: But you do it. 1146 00:54:54,693 --> 00:54:56,013 Speaker 10: You just find a way to do it. 1147 00:54:56,053 --> 00:55:00,613 Speaker 2: And yeah, Peter, and it's interesting you say that your 1148 00:55:00,653 --> 00:55:02,933 Speaker 2: daughter plays water polo. Did she come up through flippaball? 1149 00:55:04,653 --> 00:55:09,973 Speaker 10: Flippaball so the school flippaball was quite good. Everyone, you're 1150 00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:12,573 Speaker 10: going to have to worry about uniform and and now 1151 00:55:12,693 --> 00:55:17,493 Speaker 10: she's only just finished playing clubs this year and thankfully going, 1152 00:55:17,653 --> 00:55:24,013 Speaker 10: thank goodness all that. Seriously, yeah, you're going I can't 1153 00:55:24,053 --> 00:55:26,933 Speaker 10: afford to sing you on these trips, and quite a 1154 00:55:26,973 --> 00:55:29,293 Speaker 10: few trips. Is like, honey, you're going up on your own. 1155 00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:32,373 Speaker 10: I can't come up this time, and well I just 1156 00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:35,333 Speaker 10: got no leave of work. And you know I was 1157 00:55:35,413 --> 00:55:39,013 Speaker 10: like okay then, and that's just how it was. But 1158 00:55:39,813 --> 00:55:42,893 Speaker 10: you know, she got four years of club from the 1159 00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:47,893 Speaker 10: age of twelve through the last year. And then you're 1160 00:55:47,893 --> 00:55:54,813 Speaker 10: throwing an Australian Development tour in there, and yeah, money. 1161 00:55:54,453 --> 00:55:57,013 Speaker 2: Well, Peter, you're clearly a great dad the time and 1162 00:55:57,373 --> 00:55:59,333 Speaker 2: if it and financial sport you put in there. And 1163 00:55:59,333 --> 00:56:02,053 Speaker 2: it's interesting you bring up water polo because people go, oh, 1164 00:56:02,053 --> 00:56:03,733 Speaker 2: why don't you play the cheaper sport, But you just 1165 00:56:03,733 --> 00:56:05,613 Speaker 2: want your kid to get into the sport that they're 1166 00:56:05,613 --> 00:56:09,732 Speaker 2: into and their body type or the implement or what 1167 00:56:09,773 --> 00:56:13,253 Speaker 2: they can excel at you. You can't choose that, and 1168 00:56:13,253 --> 00:56:15,533 Speaker 2: then they'll come across the sport that they find and 1169 00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:17,533 Speaker 2: maybe it's water polo that's a bit more expensive than 1170 00:56:17,653 --> 00:56:19,493 Speaker 2: another sport. But as a parent you're like, I'm just 1171 00:56:19,493 --> 00:56:22,173 Speaker 2: glad they're into sport. I had two sons, one was 1172 00:56:22,253 --> 00:56:25,173 Speaker 2: very supportive and one wasn't. But then the one that 1173 00:56:25,293 --> 00:56:29,773 Speaker 2: wasn't found flippaball and that was that was so great. 1174 00:56:30,093 --> 00:56:32,333 Speaker 2: I didn't have a choice what sport they found. 1175 00:56:32,533 --> 00:56:34,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest. 1176 00:56:34,333 --> 00:56:37,773 Speaker 10: Problem in Wellington that there is is having a pool 1177 00:56:37,813 --> 00:56:41,453 Speaker 10: available that's deep enough, right, so all they like my 1178 00:56:41,573 --> 00:56:45,453 Speaker 10: daughter last year, her trainings were at eight two at night. 1179 00:56:45,893 --> 00:56:47,293 Speaker 10: You know, they go for an hour and a. 1180 00:56:47,253 --> 00:56:49,493 Speaker 15: Half two hours, so that was the. 1181 00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:54,333 Speaker 10: Only time to get full time and in a deep 1182 00:56:54,373 --> 00:56:57,853 Speaker 10: pool when you know once nine eyes do next year, 1183 00:56:58,453 --> 00:57:02,053 Speaker 10: well who have pulled the other for deep water is 1184 00:57:02,053 --> 00:57:05,333 Speaker 10: closing down for mentionment for eight nine months. So where 1185 00:57:05,533 --> 00:57:08,613 Speaker 10: we haven't achieved anything where we're found. 1186 00:57:08,773 --> 00:57:14,813 Speaker 17: Auckland schools in their clubs they're using school swimming pools, 1187 00:57:15,533 --> 00:57:18,453 Speaker 17: you know, and it probably is cheap of them, but 1188 00:57:18,933 --> 00:57:19,773 Speaker 17: she was down here. 1189 00:57:19,813 --> 00:57:21,893 Speaker 23: It's it's pretty hard. 1190 00:57:21,893 --> 00:57:25,373 Speaker 3: But every sports a sayment well, just on that point, Peter, 1191 00:57:25,453 --> 00:57:27,493 Speaker 3: And this is what kicked off this topic was this 1192 00:57:27,613 --> 00:57:30,253 Speaker 3: Nelson swim coach who was flabbergasted at the cost for 1193 00:57:30,293 --> 00:57:33,413 Speaker 3: the council run swimming pool. And I suppose you know 1194 00:57:33,453 --> 00:57:35,733 Speaker 3: that makes me extra annoyed that it's a council pool. 1195 00:57:36,173 --> 00:57:39,253 Speaker 3: Council should be about providing for the community and kids. 1196 00:57:39,293 --> 00:57:42,173 Speaker 3: Sport is a massive part of the community. Of course, 1197 00:57:42,293 --> 00:57:45,013 Speaker 3: charge you know for members and rate payers a little bit, 1198 00:57:45,093 --> 00:57:47,573 Speaker 3: but for kids, just make it free or heavily discounted. 1199 00:57:47,613 --> 00:57:51,373 Speaker 10: Surely, well, what's the club if they joined the club. 1200 00:57:51,813 --> 00:57:54,613 Speaker 10: The club kind of is the pool. Whereas so we're 1201 00:57:54,613 --> 00:57:58,293 Speaker 10: going to discount it rate I would assume for total 1202 00:57:58,373 --> 00:58:01,973 Speaker 10: pool closure, right if there's a tournament on that pool's 1203 00:58:02,013 --> 00:58:08,453 Speaker 10: closed all day Saturday, all day Sundays from learn to swim. 1204 00:58:10,173 --> 00:58:10,453 Speaker 17: Sport. 1205 00:58:11,293 --> 00:58:16,053 Speaker 10: So I understand the cost of that, but yeah, some 1206 00:58:16,293 --> 00:58:18,653 Speaker 10: lip there must be. It has to be eliminate somewhere 1207 00:58:19,893 --> 00:58:22,813 Speaker 10: you go enough enough or sorry you plucked it once. 1208 00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:25,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, well thanks you called Peter. You obviously a great dad. 1209 00:58:25,973 --> 00:58:27,973 Speaker 2: Now at the other side of it as a parent, 1210 00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:29,773 Speaker 2: and this appearent going through this with a kid that 1211 00:58:29,813 --> 00:58:32,253 Speaker 2: played cricket, I was huge cricket pan he played cricket. 1212 00:58:32,253 --> 00:58:34,093 Speaker 2: He was good, yep, and he got into a bunch 1213 00:58:34,133 --> 00:58:36,093 Speaker 2: of teams, ended up playing more and more cricket. I 1214 00:58:36,173 --> 00:58:39,733 Speaker 2: spent so many hours on the sideline, coached his team, 1215 00:58:40,493 --> 00:58:44,093 Speaker 2: drove him, drove him everywhere, really cut about it, spent 1216 00:58:44,213 --> 00:58:46,333 Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, was really involved. One day 1217 00:58:46,373 --> 00:58:48,253 Speaker 2: he's like, I don't want to play cricket anymore, and 1218 00:58:49,573 --> 00:58:52,573 Speaker 2: its and whilst it was the good thing to do, 1219 00:58:52,813 --> 00:58:55,653 Speaker 2: at the same time, you thought, I have spent so 1220 00:58:56,653 --> 00:59:00,253 Speaker 2: much time on your cricket and all of a sudden 1221 00:59:00,933 --> 00:59:05,133 Speaker 2: is you can't think of anything worse that that. I'll 1222 00:59:05,133 --> 00:59:06,773 Speaker 2: tell you what I I went into a little bit 1223 00:59:06,773 --> 00:59:07,653 Speaker 2: of a funk about. 1224 00:59:07,853 --> 00:59:08,973 Speaker 3: Bit of agree period. 1225 00:59:09,293 --> 00:59:11,453 Speaker 2: There was a bit of a grieving period actually, to 1226 00:59:11,533 --> 00:59:13,453 Speaker 2: be fair, and this is I don't want to be 1227 00:59:13,493 --> 00:59:15,253 Speaker 2: one of those parents. And you know I didn't let 1228 00:59:15,293 --> 00:59:17,173 Speaker 2: this on Tim, so I know he's not listening, so 1229 00:59:17,213 --> 00:59:20,413 Speaker 2: it's fine. But when he started raise the question with 1230 00:59:20,453 --> 00:59:22,253 Speaker 2: me he didn't want to do cricket anymore. I was 1231 00:59:22,813 --> 00:59:23,893 Speaker 2: so gutted. 1232 00:59:24,253 --> 00:59:26,013 Speaker 3: Was part of you living through him. He was clearly 1233 00:59:26,053 --> 00:59:28,773 Speaker 3: a good cricketer and you think. 1234 00:59:28,253 --> 00:59:31,093 Speaker 2: He was so much better at cricket than I ever was. 1235 00:59:31,173 --> 00:59:33,733 Speaker 2: And I was proud because he was a fast bowler 1236 00:59:33,733 --> 00:59:35,893 Speaker 2: and I always wanted to be a fast bowler. All 1237 00:59:35,893 --> 00:59:37,653 Speaker 2: that stuff, But you put that time in but you 1238 00:59:37,773 --> 00:59:39,453 Speaker 2: got to Yeah, you've got to do it, and it 1239 00:59:39,493 --> 00:59:42,013 Speaker 2: cannot be about you. And that's why I think a 1240 00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:44,453 Speaker 2: lot of parents spend so much money on it, even 1241 00:59:44,453 --> 00:59:46,773 Speaker 2: money that they can't afford, because you know, the sport 1242 00:59:46,853 --> 00:59:49,613 Speaker 2: is so good for them, and you know, of all 1243 00:59:49,653 --> 00:59:51,533 Speaker 2: the things you're going to do that that is for 1244 00:59:51,613 --> 00:59:55,613 Speaker 2: your kids, that is one of the most helpful and 1245 00:59:57,213 --> 01:00:02,133 Speaker 2: sort of wholesome helpful in a number of ways, from 1246 01:00:02,173 --> 01:00:05,333 Speaker 2: becoming a team player to being athletic, all those kind 1247 01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:08,173 Speaker 2: of things for health. So but yeah, when you've put 1248 01:00:08,173 --> 01:00:10,893 Speaker 2: all that effort and then one day they go, nah. 1249 01:00:11,213 --> 01:00:13,213 Speaker 3: There were moments for you was a dead that way. 1250 01:00:13,253 --> 01:00:16,293 Speaker 3: I mean, it would have been prashing pro dead moment moments. 1251 01:00:16,293 --> 01:00:19,333 Speaker 2: Crickets are pretty punishing sport to watch, Yeah, I mean, 1252 01:00:19,413 --> 01:00:20,933 Speaker 2: especially when they get better and they're playing more and 1253 01:00:20,973 --> 01:00:22,693 Speaker 2: more games and you're sitting on the sideline and then 1254 01:00:22,733 --> 01:00:24,813 Speaker 2: you're just terrified when they're batting for them and then 1255 01:00:24,813 --> 01:00:27,493 Speaker 2: they go into an emotional funk when they don't do 1256 01:00:27,573 --> 01:00:30,253 Speaker 2: so well and you're trying to be supportive and and 1257 01:00:30,373 --> 01:00:32,733 Speaker 2: you know, you you you live it, but also you 1258 01:00:32,813 --> 01:00:34,453 Speaker 2: go there was a lot of times when I was 1259 01:00:34,533 --> 01:00:37,333 Speaker 2: really really bored on that side watching as well. 1260 01:00:37,893 --> 01:00:41,053 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear from you. 1261 01:00:41,173 --> 01:00:44,613 Speaker 3: It is twenty nine to three headlines coming up. 1262 01:00:46,573 --> 01:00:50,173 Speaker 13: You talk, sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's 1263 01:00:50,213 --> 01:00:53,333 Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. Thousands are joining the 1264 01:00:53,373 --> 01:00:57,893 Speaker 13: hekoy from Cape Rianga to Parliament protesting the Treaty Principal's Bill, 1265 01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:01,093 Speaker 13: which has arrived at Auckland's bastion point. It should reach 1266 01:01:01,133 --> 01:01:05,493 Speaker 13: Waikato and Huddy this afternoon. Human remains have been found 1267 01:01:05,533 --> 01:01:09,773 Speaker 13: at a rural location InKo in Waikato, with specialists working 1268 01:01:09,773 --> 01:01:14,853 Speaker 13: to identify who they were and what happened. 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As part of November Supporting Men's Mental Health, 1278 01:01:52,893 --> 01:01:57,173 Speaker 13: revealed the top sixty Auckland restaurants for twenty twenty four. 1279 01:01:57,373 --> 01:02:00,173 Speaker 13: You can see the full list at Viva Premium. Back 1280 01:02:00,213 --> 01:02:01,653 Speaker 13: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 1281 01:02:01,653 --> 01:02:03,853 Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen. It's twenty five to three and we're 1282 01:02:03,853 --> 01:02:05,733 Speaker 3: talking about the cost of kids sports. 1283 01:02:05,973 --> 01:02:08,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on a back of a swimming coach that 1284 01:02:09,053 --> 01:02:12,373 Speaker 2: said a lot of his players, a lot of his 1285 01:02:12,453 --> 01:02:14,613 Speaker 2: players as swimmers, a lot of the people he's coaching 1286 01:02:14,733 --> 01:02:16,373 Speaker 2: kids he's coaching if had to pull out due to. 1287 01:02:16,293 --> 01:02:19,373 Speaker 3: The costs, Yeah, forty bucks per hour per lane. It's 1288 01:02:19,413 --> 01:02:21,373 Speaker 3: too much for a lot of pearance, he says. But 1289 01:02:21,413 --> 01:02:24,133 Speaker 3: it's not just swimming. Right across the board, you mentioned cricket. 1290 01:02:24,173 --> 01:02:26,493 Speaker 3: The cost to get your one of your sons into 1291 01:02:26,493 --> 01:02:28,693 Speaker 3: cricket was about eight hundred bucks a year this. 1292 01:02:28,813 --> 01:02:30,933 Speaker 2: Texas here on nineteen nine, two seas. I've got two 1293 01:02:30,973 --> 01:02:34,653 Speaker 2: farm boys into motocross and mountain biking. I've got fifty 1294 01:02:34,773 --> 01:02:37,373 Speaker 2: k with the machine and equipment in the shed. I'll 1295 01:02:37,373 --> 01:02:40,453 Speaker 2: take swimming a cricket any day, years Nick, Yeah, you 1296 01:02:40,533 --> 01:02:42,653 Speaker 2: got to be careful the sport that your kids fall 1297 01:02:42,693 --> 01:02:45,053 Speaker 2: in love with. One of mine fell in love with 1298 01:02:45,133 --> 01:02:49,053 Speaker 2: rowing after cricket, and that certainly certainly took a whack 1299 01:02:49,133 --> 01:02:50,133 Speaker 2: in the wall at that one. 1300 01:02:50,213 --> 01:02:52,853 Speaker 3: The old man. We went into snowsports, skiing, and then 1301 01:02:52,893 --> 01:02:54,613 Speaker 3: we wanted to get into snowboarding. It was on the 1302 01:02:54,613 --> 01:02:57,693 Speaker 3: old man and when snowboarding became cool, and said, Dad, 1303 01:02:57,733 --> 01:03:00,453 Speaker 3: I want to get into snowboarding. Day he said, nah, nah, nah, 1304 01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:03,293 Speaker 3: you're sticking with skis. You don't like skis, well buy 1305 01:03:03,333 --> 01:03:04,493 Speaker 3: your own, fair enough. 1306 01:03:06,013 --> 01:03:07,893 Speaker 2: I had a friend whose son was getting really good 1307 01:03:07,933 --> 01:03:09,333 Speaker 2: at cricket and he was having to spend a lot 1308 01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:11,253 Speaker 2: of money and spend a lot of time and the 1309 01:03:11,293 --> 01:03:13,453 Speaker 2: weekends going and watch and he was thinking about trying 1310 01:03:13,453 --> 01:03:14,853 Speaker 2: to convince this say he wasn't as good as he 1311 01:03:14,893 --> 01:03:16,653 Speaker 2: thought he was quit. 1312 01:03:18,013 --> 01:03:18,213 Speaker 26: Net. 1313 01:03:18,293 --> 01:03:21,653 Speaker 23: How you I'm fantastic, glad, tell are you guys? 1314 01:03:21,733 --> 01:03:23,933 Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good. So you got three kids all into 1315 01:03:23,973 --> 01:03:24,413 Speaker 3: their sport? 1316 01:03:26,093 --> 01:03:28,733 Speaker 16: Actually five boys. I've got three currently living at home 1317 01:03:28,773 --> 01:03:31,613 Speaker 16: with me, the two oldest they've moved out. However, I 1318 01:03:31,653 --> 01:03:34,213 Speaker 16: do believe that it's important to put your kids into sport. 1319 01:03:34,253 --> 01:03:35,653 Speaker 16: They make lifeli friends. 1320 01:03:35,933 --> 01:03:36,173 Speaker 17: You know. 1321 01:03:36,293 --> 01:03:39,453 Speaker 16: The cost is not really an issue. I don't come 1322 01:03:39,453 --> 01:03:44,853 Speaker 16: from a big socio economic background. However, I think every 1323 01:03:44,853 --> 01:03:47,053 Speaker 16: cent you pour into your kids in this regarden to 1324 01:03:47,133 --> 01:03:51,533 Speaker 16: sports is worth every penny. My kids play rugby in 1325 01:03:51,573 --> 01:03:55,853 Speaker 16: the winter and softball in the summer, so we try 1326 01:03:55,893 --> 01:03:58,573 Speaker 16: to keep them active. It's keeping them active that I 1327 01:03:58,613 --> 01:04:00,613 Speaker 16: think is the most important thing that yees. 1328 01:04:02,373 --> 01:04:05,053 Speaker 2: Five kids is a lot. Even though you say that 1329 01:04:05,253 --> 01:04:08,373 Speaker 2: you know that the cost as bearable, even though you 1330 01:04:08,413 --> 01:04:12,573 Speaker 2: don't have a whole heap of money, five five five 1331 01:04:12,733 --> 01:04:14,573 Speaker 2: is a lot, no matter what what way you look 1332 01:04:14,613 --> 01:04:18,333 Speaker 2: at in terms of time and and financial input. 1333 01:04:19,373 --> 01:04:22,213 Speaker 16: Well, well, what is this. Either spend the money on 1334 01:04:22,253 --> 01:04:24,333 Speaker 16: my kids and go down to the firepay the cigarettes. 1335 01:04:24,373 --> 01:04:27,253 Speaker 16: I don't smoke cigarettes, or boss, you know what I mean. 1336 01:04:27,493 --> 01:04:31,053 Speaker 16: I think there's money, there's more valuable spent on them 1337 01:04:31,093 --> 01:04:33,413 Speaker 16: and there we go. Yeah, they're on myself because I'll 1338 01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:35,093 Speaker 16: probably just waste it, to be honestly. 1339 01:04:35,133 --> 01:04:37,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. So what do you reckon just a ball. 1340 01:04:38,253 --> 01:04:41,173 Speaker 16: On the other side of that, too, is they play 1341 01:04:41,253 --> 01:04:44,133 Speaker 16: rip sports, So again I've got to pay again. I mean, 1342 01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:48,413 Speaker 16: they'll never get these experiences through any other avenue in life. Yeah, 1343 01:04:49,213 --> 01:04:52,133 Speaker 16: we turn up the sports grounds now and it's it 1344 01:04:52,213 --> 01:04:54,413 Speaker 16: takes ten fifteen minutes to get to where we're going 1345 01:04:54,493 --> 01:04:56,053 Speaker 16: it just because all the hellos you've got to do. 1346 01:04:57,493 --> 01:04:57,973 Speaker 2: That's great. 1347 01:04:58,293 --> 01:05:01,653 Speaker 16: Yeh, does somebody else you have your bet off taking 1348 01:05:01,653 --> 01:05:03,693 Speaker 16: a tape record and just record a message here, we've 1349 01:05:03,693 --> 01:05:05,773 Speaker 16: got to beat it. You know, we're done. 1350 01:05:06,933 --> 01:05:08,933 Speaker 2: And the other thing for pearents like you invest the 1351 01:05:08,973 --> 01:05:10,253 Speaker 2: money and your kids and you're doing it for your 1352 01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:12,733 Speaker 2: kids as well. But for me, when my kids gone 1353 01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:14,453 Speaker 2: to sport, I meet a lot of parents on the 1354 01:05:14,493 --> 01:05:18,253 Speaker 2: sidelines and a lot of parents coaching that have become 1355 01:05:18,613 --> 01:05:21,333 Speaker 2: you know, one of my very best mates was I 1356 01:05:21,373 --> 01:05:24,013 Speaker 2: was randomly, randomly put with him when we just decided 1357 01:05:24,013 --> 01:05:26,253 Speaker 2: to coach a cricket team and we're very very good 1358 01:05:26,253 --> 01:05:28,853 Speaker 2: friends of the day to this day. So the investment 1359 01:05:28,893 --> 01:05:32,493 Speaker 2: you put in kids sports, whilst obstensibly are you doing 1360 01:05:32,533 --> 01:05:34,893 Speaker 2: it just for your kids, it is a great way 1361 01:05:34,893 --> 01:05:37,213 Speaker 2: to meet people that you wouldn't normally meet outside of 1362 01:05:37,253 --> 01:05:41,133 Speaker 2: your social circles, outside of you know, your your work circles. 1363 01:05:41,373 --> 01:05:43,853 Speaker 2: You meet all different types of people and that's one 1364 01:05:43,853 --> 01:05:46,813 Speaker 2: of the really really great things for sport, both kids 1365 01:05:46,813 --> 01:05:47,413 Speaker 2: and parents. 1366 01:05:47,413 --> 01:05:51,173 Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, well noick, if one of your boys becomes 1367 01:05:51,213 --> 01:05:52,893 Speaker 3: an all black. He can sort you out later on. 1368 01:05:52,973 --> 01:05:56,813 Speaker 16: Eh, well, I'll see acrossing my fingers and hopefully it 1369 01:05:56,813 --> 01:05:58,693 Speaker 16: doesn't go all in vain and they give it up 1370 01:05:58,733 --> 01:05:59,213 Speaker 16: next year. 1371 01:06:00,453 --> 01:06:03,413 Speaker 2: Well that that is always here you go next SR. 1372 01:06:04,693 --> 01:06:08,813 Speaker 16: So for me, if the kids enjoy it, you know, 1373 01:06:09,933 --> 01:06:12,813 Speaker 16: it's about making them happier, sitting setting them up for 1374 01:06:12,893 --> 01:06:16,333 Speaker 16: like they get. Yeah, they get other lessons in life 1375 01:06:16,373 --> 01:06:18,813 Speaker 16: that I can't necessarily teach them my homewight team work. 1376 01:06:18,893 --> 01:06:21,253 Speaker 16: I can't necessarily teach them the team work because the 1377 01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:22,933 Speaker 16: last thing they want to do is report each other 1378 01:06:22,973 --> 01:06:26,973 Speaker 16: with their brothers. Yeah, they rather do get out than 1379 01:06:27,013 --> 01:06:31,613 Speaker 16: help each other out. They step on the sports field, 1380 01:06:31,653 --> 01:06:33,973 Speaker 16: they've they've got to get along, they've got to hear 1381 01:06:34,053 --> 01:06:37,493 Speaker 16: other opinions. They've got they have to listen. 1382 01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:43,213 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, well, I mean in sportsmanship is just 1383 01:06:43,253 --> 01:06:45,333 Speaker 2: a huge thing, and it's a lesson that you learn 1384 01:06:45,373 --> 01:06:47,973 Speaker 2: out on the park that you might not learn anywhere else. 1385 01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:51,253 Speaker 2: And I remember one time I was I was, I 1386 01:06:51,293 --> 01:06:54,533 Speaker 2: was playing sport and I blamed another player, and the 1387 01:06:54,733 --> 01:06:56,493 Speaker 2: southerly I got from my dad and the car on 1388 01:06:56,493 --> 01:07:00,293 Speaker 2: the way home for my behavior was a really really 1389 01:07:00,373 --> 01:07:05,013 Speaker 2: important lesson in life around not blaming other people and 1390 01:07:05,293 --> 01:07:09,373 Speaker 2: taking you know, accountability for what you do yourself first 1391 01:07:09,813 --> 01:07:13,013 Speaker 2: before you start pointing the finger. Those lessons in sport 1392 01:07:13,053 --> 01:07:13,893 Speaker 2: are lessons for life. 1393 01:07:14,013 --> 01:07:14,253 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1394 01:07:14,253 --> 01:07:16,413 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 1395 01:07:16,493 --> 01:07:18,293 Speaker 3: number to cool. Love to hear from you on this one, 1396 01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:19,813 Speaker 3: and it is nineteen to three. 1397 01:07:21,733 --> 01:07:25,013 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends 1398 01:07:25,053 --> 01:07:29,093 Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons 1399 01:07:29,133 --> 01:07:32,213 Speaker 1: you for twenty twenty four News Talk zed B News 1400 01:07:32,293 --> 01:07:32,973 Speaker 1: Talk zed B. 1401 01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:36,213 Speaker 3: We are talking about the cost of getting kids into sports. 1402 01:07:36,613 --> 01:07:39,293 Speaker 3: Takes tire, Hi, guys, my son was showing real promise 1403 01:07:39,333 --> 01:07:44,053 Speaker 3: and go karting crime wool two years nearly bankrupted, bankrupted 1404 01:07:44,093 --> 01:07:48,653 Speaker 3: the family. I bought the six point five thousand dollars 1405 01:07:48,693 --> 01:07:51,173 Speaker 3: go kart and the chain came off. The first practice 1406 01:07:51,173 --> 01:07:54,053 Speaker 3: session cost over a grand to replace the bits and 1407 01:07:54,133 --> 01:07:56,453 Speaker 3: the chain smashes that flew off. I'm glad the boys 1408 01:07:56,493 --> 01:07:58,573 Speaker 3: stuck to football. Now from Greg, what. 1409 01:07:58,533 --> 01:08:00,373 Speaker 2: Do you think I'll be interested in people's opinions on 1410 01:08:00,373 --> 01:08:02,733 Speaker 2: this eight hundred and eighteen eighty What is the cheapest 1411 01:08:02,773 --> 01:08:05,413 Speaker 2: sport that you can push your kids into? Someone was 1412 01:08:05,413 --> 01:08:09,533 Speaker 2: saying taekwondo is pretty cheap running. I don't know. 1413 01:08:09,693 --> 01:08:11,933 Speaker 3: Running shoes, Yeah, as you get. 1414 01:08:11,853 --> 01:08:13,573 Speaker 2: Better at running, you need the ones that are that's 1415 01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:16,492 Speaker 2: that are molded to your feet, unless you do the 1416 01:08:16,532 --> 01:08:18,333 Speaker 2: Lulla bud and send them out on their bare feet. 1417 01:08:18,973 --> 01:08:20,452 Speaker 3: Allison, how are you this afternoon? 1418 01:08:21,452 --> 01:08:22,093 Speaker 13: Oh hi? 1419 01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:24,772 Speaker 20: I just wanted to talk to you about what we 1420 01:08:24,893 --> 01:08:28,933 Speaker 20: got our children too, and it doesn't fall under the 1421 01:08:29,013 --> 01:08:33,492 Speaker 20: cheapest category unfortunately. When we've got we've got a son 1422 01:08:33,532 --> 01:08:37,333 Speaker 20: and a daughter and they were nearly five and seven 1423 01:08:37,933 --> 01:08:42,293 Speaker 20: and we got started into boreroom dancing and they stuff 1424 01:08:42,333 --> 01:08:45,213 Speaker 20: started with middle classes and then they went through their 1425 01:08:45,253 --> 01:08:47,972 Speaker 20: medals and then they got obviously they got quite good, 1426 01:08:48,253 --> 01:08:51,093 Speaker 20: and then they got partners and then they danced ballroom, 1427 01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:55,092 Speaker 20: New Vogue and Latin. So we needed all the gear, 1428 01:08:55,253 --> 01:08:58,973 Speaker 20: all the shoes, and they had partners. Sixty dollars for 1429 01:08:59,053 --> 01:09:01,732 Speaker 20: an hour's lesson, which I used to share with the 1430 01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:06,772 Speaker 20: other with because the kids had partners, so the parents, 1431 01:09:06,772 --> 01:09:09,372 Speaker 20: the partner's parents would pay hard. We would pay half, 1432 01:09:09,772 --> 01:09:13,253 Speaker 20: but they would be having a New Vogue, a Latin 1433 01:09:13,492 --> 01:09:15,572 Speaker 20: and a baarroom. They'd be having that three or four 1434 01:09:15,572 --> 01:09:19,452 Speaker 20: times a week. Then you've been paying for the practices 1435 01:09:20,053 --> 01:09:22,333 Speaker 20: and then all the outfits and they did that for 1436 01:09:22,572 --> 01:09:24,612 Speaker 20: ten years. We would have spent well over one hundred 1437 01:09:24,652 --> 01:09:29,133 Speaker 20: thousand dollars, but there was an incredible I know, just 1438 01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:31,372 Speaker 20: sort of we sat down and added it all up 1439 01:09:31,412 --> 01:09:33,213 Speaker 20: once and we used to fundraise to do all the 1440 01:09:33,253 --> 01:09:38,213 Speaker 20: traveling as well. But they became they actually became New 1441 01:09:38,293 --> 01:09:43,532 Speaker 20: Zealand National Ballroom champions through there. Our son, our son 1442 01:09:43,772 --> 01:09:47,933 Speaker 20: was in all the grades junior, juvenile, youth, adult. But 1443 01:09:48,053 --> 01:09:51,452 Speaker 20: it was a fabulous and they going through those teenage years, 1444 01:09:51,812 --> 01:09:55,132 Speaker 20: they were so busy dancing that they just went to school. 1445 01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:58,852 Speaker 20: They were and danced and trained and you didn't have 1446 01:09:58,893 --> 01:10:02,372 Speaker 20: any time for any mischief going on. So it was 1447 01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:05,413 Speaker 20: money well invested. I reckon that certainly. 1448 01:10:06,093 --> 01:10:09,452 Speaker 17: I'm a marcher. I do marching brilliant. 1449 01:10:10,093 --> 01:10:13,492 Speaker 20: Yeah, so we which is to me, although we do 1450 01:10:13,572 --> 01:10:17,213 Speaker 20: a lot of fundraising, which is we still have to 1451 01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:21,052 Speaker 20: fundraise even for the master's grade, but really it's just nothing. 1452 01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:25,452 Speaker 20: It's as cheap as chips really, so compared to those 1453 01:10:25,532 --> 01:10:27,253 Speaker 20: dancing days. 1454 01:10:26,812 --> 01:10:28,532 Speaker 3: You're great, Allison. 1455 01:10:28,612 --> 01:10:31,333 Speaker 2: Going back to marching, because marching used to be massive 1456 01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:34,372 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Has it still got a big following marchings. 1457 01:10:34,372 --> 01:10:36,412 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of people involved. 1458 01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:40,333 Speaker 20: Well, when I used to march as a midget, so 1459 01:10:40,372 --> 01:10:42,333 Speaker 20: I was back in those days when it was just 1460 01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:45,253 Speaker 20: hundreds of teams. You would get there at seven o'clock 1461 01:10:45,253 --> 01:10:47,652 Speaker 20: in the morning and you would just be there all day. 1462 01:10:48,013 --> 01:10:53,253 Speaker 20: And so the Canterbury is quite a very you know, 1463 01:10:53,293 --> 01:10:57,132 Speaker 20: it's a big area in the marching. But it's definitely 1464 01:10:57,213 --> 01:10:59,612 Speaker 20: nothing like it used to be in those back in 1465 01:10:59,652 --> 01:11:00,093 Speaker 20: that era. 1466 01:11:00,253 --> 01:11:02,573 Speaker 10: But it's still very competitive. 1467 01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:06,293 Speaker 20: We still train, We train and train our hundreds of 1468 01:11:06,293 --> 01:11:08,452 Speaker 20: hours for a three minute routine. 1469 01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:10,293 Speaker 27: But yeah, it's good. 1470 01:11:10,333 --> 01:11:12,732 Speaker 20: It's rare, it is really good, but it's and that's 1471 01:11:12,732 --> 01:11:15,772 Speaker 20: that's a relatively cheap, cheap sport. Parents just have to 1472 01:11:15,812 --> 01:11:18,612 Speaker 20: be be prepared to do fundraising. 1473 01:11:18,053 --> 01:11:21,532 Speaker 3: So they have they had a big one and travel away. 1474 01:11:21,732 --> 01:11:24,333 Speaker 3: They had a big one in Amberley quite recently, didn't they, Alison, 1475 01:11:24,853 --> 01:11:26,492 Speaker 3: what do they call that? When you get the whole 1476 01:11:26,532 --> 01:11:28,293 Speaker 3: all the marches together, there is a name for it, 1477 01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:29,452 Speaker 3: an official name for it. 1478 01:11:32,093 --> 01:11:35,253 Speaker 20: So there is a leisure which is sort of more 1479 01:11:35,293 --> 01:11:38,333 Speaker 20: of the older woman, which is huge actually throughout New Zealand. 1480 01:11:38,372 --> 01:11:41,532 Speaker 20: That is a really they are not competitive where we 1481 01:11:41,772 --> 01:11:45,012 Speaker 20: have where the competitive grade. But we have our We've 1482 01:11:45,013 --> 01:11:47,933 Speaker 20: got South Islands coming up in December, and then the 1483 01:11:47,973 --> 01:11:50,173 Speaker 20: New Zealand Nationals will be held in Number Cargo this 1484 01:11:50,253 --> 01:11:50,932 Speaker 20: year in March. 1485 01:11:51,853 --> 01:11:52,493 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1486 01:11:53,293 --> 01:11:54,452 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it, and thank you so 1487 01:11:54,532 --> 01:11:57,253 Speaker 2: much for you call Allison there. Marching it's it's a 1488 01:11:57,333 --> 01:12:00,093 Speaker 2: very cool sport. It's it's a it's a great spectacle. 1489 01:12:00,692 --> 01:12:02,412 Speaker 2: I was just think about the other thing about fundraising, 1490 01:12:02,412 --> 01:12:04,572 Speaker 2: as Allison brings up, is the thing with your kids 1491 01:12:05,053 --> 01:12:07,852 Speaker 2: are given a Raffle booklet and they don't tell you 1492 01:12:07,893 --> 01:12:10,772 Speaker 2: about it, and then suddenly on the last day you're 1493 01:12:10,812 --> 01:12:13,212 Speaker 2: on the on the line to buy all the tickets 1494 01:12:13,772 --> 01:12:15,812 Speaker 2: because you find it at the bottom of their bag 1495 01:12:15,893 --> 01:12:19,013 Speaker 2: that's got half a rotten apple mixed in it, so 1496 01:12:19,053 --> 01:12:19,852 Speaker 2: you can't return it. 1497 01:12:19,973 --> 01:12:22,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel sorry for the when I see 1498 01:12:22,452 --> 01:12:24,492 Speaker 3: that email from the parents in the workplace and say, hey, 1499 01:12:24,532 --> 01:12:26,532 Speaker 3: I've got all these Raffle tickets to shift, or do 1500 01:12:26,532 --> 01:12:28,372 Speaker 3: you want to buy a pie because my kid needs 1501 01:12:28,412 --> 01:12:30,652 Speaker 3: to go overseas And I buy as many pies as 1502 01:12:30,652 --> 01:12:32,892 Speaker 3: I can, but always feel sorry because they're hard yacker, 1503 01:12:33,053 --> 01:12:36,532 Speaker 3: hard yeacker. Sharon. How are you good? 1504 01:12:36,612 --> 01:12:37,093 Speaker 18: How are you? 1505 01:12:37,173 --> 01:12:37,412 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1506 01:12:37,452 --> 01:12:41,812 Speaker 18: Good, excellent. This is a really cool conversation you're having 1507 01:12:42,013 --> 01:12:45,892 Speaker 18: about barriers to participation in the sport and. 1508 01:12:45,853 --> 01:12:47,852 Speaker 3: You're involved in it, are you, Sharon in terms of 1509 01:12:47,933 --> 01:12:49,932 Speaker 3: trying to make it as easy as possible for kids 1510 01:12:49,933 --> 01:12:50,612 Speaker 3: to get into sport? 1511 01:12:51,772 --> 01:12:54,893 Speaker 18: We are, yes. So we're part of a well, we 1512 01:12:55,013 --> 01:12:58,093 Speaker 18: run a charitable trust out a Northe called Resport and 1513 01:12:58,253 --> 01:13:01,972 Speaker 18: we're all about repurposing sports gear so that we can 1514 01:13:02,013 --> 01:13:06,333 Speaker 18: give people a chance and we're all about reducing the 1515 01:13:06,372 --> 01:13:07,692 Speaker 18: barriers to participations. 1516 01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:10,812 Speaker 2: Good on you. And how long have you been involved 1517 01:13:10,812 --> 01:13:10,973 Speaker 2: in this? 1518 01:13:12,732 --> 01:13:13,653 Speaker 18: Eighteen months? 1519 01:13:13,853 --> 01:13:15,572 Speaker 10: Yeah, right, so we fairly knew. 1520 01:13:15,412 --> 01:13:20,532 Speaker 18: But yeah, it's very popular. We we've collected just over 1521 01:13:21,333 --> 01:13:24,732 Speaker 18: five thousand items in eighteen months and we've distributed back 1522 01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:27,253 Speaker 18: into the community just over three thousands. 1523 01:13:27,293 --> 01:13:27,732 Speaker 2: So good. 1524 01:13:28,532 --> 01:13:31,813 Speaker 18: Yeah, so it Keith also keeps the gear out of landfill. 1525 01:13:32,053 --> 01:13:35,972 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a fantastic initiative. And how will people interact 1526 01:13:36,013 --> 01:13:37,852 Speaker 2: with you? How do people reach out to you to 1527 01:13:37,612 --> 01:13:38,572 Speaker 2: get the gear off? 1528 01:13:38,612 --> 01:13:42,093 Speaker 18: You just go to the website. It's resport dot co 1529 01:13:42,213 --> 01:13:42,732 Speaker 18: dot m Z. 1530 01:13:44,492 --> 01:13:44,692 Speaker 15: Yeah. 1531 01:13:44,812 --> 01:13:47,932 Speaker 2: I mean that's an absolutely brilliant thing for you to do, Sharon, 1532 01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:50,612 Speaker 2: So thank you for that. On behalf of. 1533 01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:56,372 Speaker 3: Society, Resport fantastic charitable trust. So just go to the 1534 01:13:56,412 --> 01:13:58,652 Speaker 3: website Resport. If you google it you'll find it. 1535 01:13:59,293 --> 01:14:02,092 Speaker 2: I just want to say I called Zola Blad, Zola 1536 01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:06,412 Speaker 2: Bud Lolabud aquolities. That was the famous South African runner 1537 01:14:06,412 --> 01:14:09,133 Speaker 2: wh used to run and barfee right to clarify, that's 1538 01:14:09,372 --> 01:14:10,333 Speaker 2: got to get those things right. 1539 01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:12,372 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh and one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is 1540 01:14:12,372 --> 01:14:13,652 Speaker 3: the number to call. It is ten to. 1541 01:14:13,692 --> 01:14:17,812 Speaker 1: Three the issues that affect you and a bit of 1542 01:14:17,812 --> 01:14:21,412 Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons 1543 01:14:21,452 --> 01:14:22,692 Speaker 1: you for twenty twenty four. 1544 01:14:22,812 --> 01:14:23,772 Speaker 2: You've talked zed B. 1545 01:14:25,652 --> 01:14:28,652 Speaker 3: News Talk zed B Morris. How much do you spend 1546 01:14:28,692 --> 01:14:29,852 Speaker 3: on your kids to get into sport? 1547 01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:35,452 Speaker 27: Oh, we'll start with the cheapest one. The little boy. 1548 01:14:35,492 --> 01:14:36,253 Speaker 27: He's in the rugby. 1549 01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:37,333 Speaker 28: Yeah, right to Legia. 1550 01:14:37,492 --> 01:14:38,173 Speaker 3: Okay, nice. 1551 01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:40,172 Speaker 27: He's on the word of making the sacred for the fifteen. 1552 01:14:40,213 --> 01:14:43,013 Speaker 9: He's only fourteen, so that's a level jack all. 1553 01:14:43,173 --> 01:14:44,892 Speaker 27: He costs a pair of boots and he played used 1554 01:14:44,893 --> 01:14:46,452 Speaker 27: to play clicking on summer to get the hand me 1555 01:14:46,492 --> 01:14:47,492 Speaker 27: down from his older brother. 1556 01:14:47,572 --> 01:14:47,772 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1557 01:14:47,812 --> 01:14:50,092 Speaker 3: What position, Morris, sorry, jump in there? What position? 1558 01:14:52,372 --> 01:14:52,612 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1559 01:14:53,372 --> 01:14:59,212 Speaker 27: Much more to clothing than the sport tenere eighteen kilos. 1560 01:14:59,612 --> 01:15:02,612 Speaker 27: Oh boy, yeah, but no sad on him. Just big 1561 01:15:02,612 --> 01:15:03,812 Speaker 27: and the shoulder bigger in the league. 1562 01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:06,692 Speaker 2: Well we need that, We need bigg We need big 1563 01:15:06,692 --> 01:15:09,652 Speaker 2: to mighty Williams type players out there, don't we, So 1564 01:15:09,692 --> 01:15:12,293 Speaker 2: we can we can combat the bomb squad going forward, 1565 01:15:13,133 --> 01:15:13,412 Speaker 2: all right. 1566 01:15:13,572 --> 01:15:15,133 Speaker 27: So he's the cheapest right and the other thing we're 1567 01:15:15,133 --> 01:15:16,892 Speaker 27: going to do with other good of foot, Yeah, make 1568 01:15:16,933 --> 01:15:18,173 Speaker 27: the un up and down and he's on the farm. 1569 01:15:18,213 --> 01:15:18,492 Speaker 9: That's that. 1570 01:15:18,612 --> 01:15:20,892 Speaker 27: So he's a bargain, just a llegiol. Be a bit 1571 01:15:20,933 --> 01:15:22,932 Speaker 27: more to get more from right now. The next one 1572 01:15:22,973 --> 01:15:26,372 Speaker 27: that he plays cricket. When he started he was absolutely 1573 01:15:26,412 --> 01:15:29,732 Speaker 27: rubbish so but he was desperate to be a play 1574 01:15:29,772 --> 01:15:31,932 Speaker 27: for his Zellam was his dream. So he's head coaching, 1575 01:15:31,973 --> 01:15:34,333 Speaker 27: you know, four days a week and now he's sort 1576 01:15:34,333 --> 01:15:36,732 Speaker 27: of Last year he coached he kept in the North 1577 01:15:36,732 --> 01:15:39,133 Speaker 27: Harbor under seventeens, you know, in the Aukland competition and 1578 01:15:39,173 --> 01:15:41,052 Speaker 27: all that. So he's gone on really good. He's already 1579 01:15:41,053 --> 01:15:43,652 Speaker 27: played Premier club cricket at fifteen. He's you know, but 1580 01:15:43,772 --> 01:15:46,492 Speaker 27: he gets sixty bucks an hour fishon four times a 1581 01:15:46,492 --> 01:15:49,213 Speaker 27: week and then about four hundred k's before he got 1582 01:15:49,213 --> 01:15:51,213 Speaker 27: his license with driving around a week for the training 1583 01:15:51,293 --> 01:15:53,333 Speaker 27: and we can get all the tournaments and all the 1584 01:15:53,333 --> 01:15:56,492 Speaker 27: add ons. So he was round about twenty twenty five 1585 01:15:56,492 --> 01:15:57,253 Speaker 27: thousand a year. 1586 01:15:57,492 --> 01:15:59,372 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, yeah, even year. 1587 01:15:59,572 --> 01:16:02,172 Speaker 27: The last three years. But he's a very good cricketer. 1588 01:16:02,412 --> 01:16:05,132 Speaker 27: Like I said, he made the premiere competition in Auckland. 1589 01:16:05,452 --> 01:16:07,812 Speaker 27: You know, as a fifteen sixteen year old, you know, 1590 01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:10,452 Speaker 27: first to live and doesn't like that because it's not 1591 01:16:10,492 --> 01:16:13,213 Speaker 27: good enough grade. He's on the ridge of Walkland. So 1592 01:16:14,333 --> 01:16:17,293 Speaker 27: but he's not the nearest one. Oh no, no, little 1593 01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:21,852 Speaker 27: a little most pcice wants to get a pony. That 1594 01:16:22,013 --> 01:16:24,612 Speaker 27: was the first pony, was the worst pony. That was 1595 01:16:24,652 --> 01:16:27,612 Speaker 27: only three grand. But then every time you go to 1596 01:16:27,652 --> 01:16:29,612 Speaker 27: an event on a Saturday, it's one hundred and fifty 1597 01:16:29,652 --> 01:16:31,972 Speaker 27: bucks on I said, down on a Sunday, plus all 1598 01:16:31,973 --> 01:16:34,692 Speaker 27: the coping that plussives and you got to feed the ponies. 1599 01:16:34,732 --> 01:16:37,253 Speaker 27: Now we've got three ponies, so the feedbill is about 1600 01:16:37,293 --> 01:16:39,772 Speaker 27: two hundred and fifty three hound of a week. Right, 1601 01:16:40,133 --> 01:16:42,532 Speaker 27: that's all the things, and it's six thick end of 1602 01:16:42,572 --> 01:16:46,092 Speaker 27: sixty thousand dollars. And it gets worse, it gets worse, 1603 01:16:46,452 --> 01:16:50,652 Speaker 27: because she's really ricky good because here on committed, got 1604 01:16:50,692 --> 01:16:52,932 Speaker 27: sick of but I'll be happy. And then the petrel 1605 01:16:53,293 --> 01:16:55,452 Speaker 27: one week with her, we did four hundred and sixty 1606 01:16:55,492 --> 01:16:57,253 Speaker 27: kilometers and running around him everything. 1607 01:16:57,093 --> 01:17:00,372 Speaker 3: Fours and you got the horse trailer as well. I 1608 01:17:00,452 --> 01:17:02,572 Speaker 3: take it more. She had to buy that. 1609 01:17:02,572 --> 01:17:05,652 Speaker 27: That was twenty five grande. The first pony was three 1610 01:17:05,772 --> 01:17:09,293 Speaker 27: That was the bargain, and the first horse folk was 1611 01:17:08,893 --> 01:17:11,812 Speaker 27: was was three and a half grand They were bargains, right, 1612 01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:14,333 Speaker 27: and then she become very very good and you started 1613 01:17:14,372 --> 01:17:16,572 Speaker 27: winning stuff in your garden there next you know, it's 1614 01:17:16,572 --> 01:17:19,213 Speaker 27: bloody near full time. She goes to school, she gets home, 1615 01:17:19,293 --> 01:17:20,892 Speaker 27: she rides for two hours in the morning before she 1616 01:17:20,933 --> 01:17:23,213 Speaker 27: goes to school, and then she rides a couple of 1617 01:17:23,253 --> 01:17:25,612 Speaker 27: hours when she gets home at night. Totally committed. So 1618 01:17:25,732 --> 01:17:26,612 Speaker 27: you can't say no. 1619 01:17:27,412 --> 01:17:30,053 Speaker 17: Yeah, well, it's just ridiculous costs. 1620 01:17:30,173 --> 01:17:31,852 Speaker 27: And then the better they become and the more they 1621 01:17:31,853 --> 01:17:34,652 Speaker 27: put into it, but then it gets worse because you're 1622 01:17:34,652 --> 01:17:36,892 Speaker 27: competing against people who have got a hundred thousands of ponies. 1623 01:17:37,213 --> 01:17:38,933 Speaker 27: Need some of these parents, one of them. I'm not 1624 01:17:38,973 --> 01:17:40,812 Speaker 27: going to mention names or anything. They've got a six 1625 01:17:40,893 --> 01:17:43,572 Speaker 27: hundred thousand dollars truck. The kid's got about four hundred 1626 01:17:43,612 --> 01:17:45,772 Speaker 27: thousand dollars worth of ponies. 1627 01:17:46,853 --> 01:17:48,652 Speaker 3: Wow, get more. 1628 01:17:49,053 --> 01:17:51,692 Speaker 27: And they clearly don't work on minimum wage. But that's 1629 01:17:51,692 --> 01:17:54,173 Speaker 27: not the point. You know, we're finding that, you know, 1630 01:17:54,412 --> 01:17:56,253 Speaker 27: we can run a lot of those costs off, but 1631 01:17:56,293 --> 01:17:58,053 Speaker 27: the fact is that you still it still cost you 1632 01:17:58,173 --> 01:18:00,173 Speaker 27: the food, it cost you every single thing you put 1633 01:18:00,173 --> 01:18:02,132 Speaker 27: into it, and then the mileage you get them around, 1634 01:18:02,412 --> 01:18:05,253 Speaker 27: then the little the little blazes and order. But there's 1635 01:18:05,253 --> 01:18:06,852 Speaker 27: one hundred and fifty here, two hundred. 1636 01:18:07,053 --> 01:18:11,293 Speaker 3: I need another eighty. 1637 01:18:10,013 --> 01:18:12,133 Speaker 2: Too, Morris. I hope it's money well spent. You sound 1638 01:18:12,133 --> 01:18:14,213 Speaker 2: like a proud dad, so so good on you, and 1639 01:18:14,213 --> 01:18:15,532 Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling. What a great chat 1640 01:18:15,572 --> 01:18:16,173 Speaker 2: it's been this out. 1641 01:18:16,293 --> 01:18:18,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for your techs and phone 1642 01:18:18,412 --> 01:18:19,692 Speaker 3: calls after three o'clock. 1643 01:18:20,093 --> 01:18:24,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so interesting and sad news. She Hard are 1644 01:18:24,812 --> 01:18:27,692 Speaker 2: breaking up after many many years. Got one last tour 1645 01:18:27,732 --> 01:18:28,933 Speaker 2: on the road, so we want to talk about the 1646 01:18:28,933 --> 01:18:31,212 Speaker 2: best concert you've ever seen in New Zealand and Coldplay 1647 01:18:31,253 --> 01:18:31,732 Speaker 2: up as well. 1648 01:18:31,973 --> 01:18:33,652 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a 1649 01:18:33,732 --> 01:18:40,053 Speaker 3: number to call. We'll see you on the other side. 1650 01:18:41,253 --> 01:18:44,532 Speaker 1: Your new home for Insightful and there it's a teening talk. 1651 01:18:44,652 --> 01:18:49,573 Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby. 1652 01:18:49,933 --> 01:18:52,932 Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show seven past three. Right over 1653 01:18:53,013 --> 01:18:55,293 Speaker 3: the next fifty minutes, we want to talk about concerts. 1654 01:18:55,572 --> 01:18:58,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So she had a breaking up and 1655 01:18:58,213 --> 01:19:00,692 Speaker 2: going on the road for one last time. They've been 1656 01:19:00,692 --> 01:19:03,093 Speaker 2: described as one of New Zealand's best live bands. I've 1657 01:19:03,093 --> 01:19:04,932 Speaker 2: seen them probably more than any other band, and they 1658 01:19:04,973 --> 01:19:09,572 Speaker 2: are always an incredibly good time. Absolutely, they know how 1659 01:19:09,612 --> 01:19:11,372 Speaker 2: to rack up an audience. Johnny two Good is one 1660 01:19:11,412 --> 01:19:13,732 Speaker 2: of the greatest front men in this country has ever had. 1661 01:19:13,933 --> 01:19:16,492 Speaker 2: We've also had Coldplay throwing three playing three shows to 1662 01:19:16,572 --> 01:19:18,532 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand people in New Zealand this 1663 01:19:18,572 --> 01:19:21,133 Speaker 2: weekend at Eden Park. So we want to talk about 1664 01:19:21,133 --> 01:19:24,012 Speaker 2: the best live band you have ever seen, the best 1665 01:19:24,133 --> 01:19:27,772 Speaker 2: Kiwi or international band you have ever seen live because 1666 01:19:27,812 --> 01:19:32,932 Speaker 2: those live constance you see life changing, Yeah, absolutely life changing. 1667 01:19:32,973 --> 01:19:34,732 Speaker 2: And there's some that just stand out. There's some you 1668 01:19:34,812 --> 01:19:37,372 Speaker 2: go along and then you just can't wait till it's over. 1669 01:19:37,532 --> 01:19:37,732 Speaker 8: Yep. 1670 01:19:38,013 --> 01:19:41,213 Speaker 2: And especially if it's a legacy band that plays a 1671 01:19:41,253 --> 01:19:43,173 Speaker 2: lot of new stuff that can get to you. But 1672 01:19:43,492 --> 01:19:44,652 Speaker 2: that's one of the great things. I went to see 1673 01:19:44,652 --> 01:19:47,933 Speaker 2: Billy Joel recently and he started off the tour o 1674 01:19:48,253 --> 01:19:50,492 Speaker 2: the show by saying, Hey, I've got some good news 1675 01:19:50,492 --> 01:19:54,213 Speaker 2: and bad news. You know. The bad news is that 1676 01:19:54,253 --> 01:19:56,333 Speaker 2: I haven't written a song since ninety ninety one. And 1677 01:19:56,372 --> 01:19:58,253 Speaker 2: the good news is that you're going to know all 1678 01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:01,213 Speaker 2: the songs as basically like that. Yea, I think he 1679 01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:02,652 Speaker 2: said that. The good news is I haven't written a 1680 01:20:02,652 --> 01:20:04,333 Speaker 2: new song since ninety ninety one, so you're going to 1681 01:20:04,372 --> 01:20:09,572 Speaker 2: know everything. But yeah, best show you have ever seen 1682 01:20:09,652 --> 01:20:11,973 Speaker 2: of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm going to 1683 01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:14,213 Speaker 2: talk about this and yeah, on the She Had thing, 1684 01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:15,733 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Johnny toogod. 1685 01:20:15,452 --> 01:20:18,213 Speaker 3: Well absolutely speaking as you just mentioned. Sad news for 1686 01:20:18,293 --> 01:20:20,412 Speaker 3: a lot of fans out there. Band She Had Have 1687 01:20:20,452 --> 01:20:23,452 Speaker 3: announced they are disbanding after nearly forty years are The 1688 01:20:23,452 --> 01:20:26,932 Speaker 3: band's website crashed this morning Jude to Demand following their 1689 01:20:26,973 --> 01:20:30,253 Speaker 3: announcement that is the band will play one final set 1690 01:20:30,293 --> 01:20:33,732 Speaker 3: of shows before finishing up in Wellington in March twenty 1691 01:20:33,853 --> 01:20:37,372 Speaker 3: twenty five. On the line is John two Good, lead 1692 01:20:37,412 --> 01:20:39,812 Speaker 3: singer of She Had Good A John. 1693 01:20:39,812 --> 01:20:41,053 Speaker 7: Good a guys, there are you going? 1694 01:20:41,772 --> 01:20:45,532 Speaker 2: Very good mate? So why are you guys calling it quits? 1695 01:20:46,173 --> 01:20:50,852 Speaker 7: Well, for a few reasons, but mainly we've been talking 1696 01:20:50,853 --> 01:20:53,093 Speaker 7: about this for about a couple of years and it's 1697 01:20:53,093 --> 01:20:56,892 Speaker 7: just like, for so long we've had this as the 1698 01:20:56,973 --> 01:21:00,972 Speaker 7: center of our lives and she Had. When you're taking 1699 01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:02,972 Speaker 7: it seriously, you need to be doing it one hundred 1700 01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:06,892 Speaker 7: percent of the time all the time. So circumstances have changed. 1701 01:21:07,173 --> 01:21:11,293 Speaker 7: We've got kids, We've all got other things outside of 1702 01:21:11,293 --> 01:21:15,052 Speaker 7: she Had that we love doing. And you know, when 1703 01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:17,053 Speaker 7: we get together, we'll always make sure that you know, 1704 01:21:17,093 --> 01:21:20,892 Speaker 7: we bullets the stage and it's great and I think 1705 01:21:20,933 --> 01:21:23,732 Speaker 7: the last two she Had records are probably my favorite, 1706 01:21:23,732 --> 01:21:28,173 Speaker 7: but like five years in between each other, and we 1707 01:21:28,293 --> 01:21:30,612 Speaker 7: used to do a record every two years. You know. 1708 01:21:30,812 --> 01:21:33,772 Speaker 7: When we were everything was all about she Had. But 1709 01:21:34,253 --> 01:21:36,412 Speaker 7: we just thought, rather than go out with a whimp, 1710 01:21:36,732 --> 01:21:40,173 Speaker 7: we'll go out on a high point. And that was 1711 01:21:40,213 --> 01:21:42,452 Speaker 7: basically the sort of decision we came to over a 1712 01:21:42,492 --> 01:21:44,572 Speaker 7: couple of years of conversations. 1713 01:21:44,652 --> 01:21:48,213 Speaker 3: And we are You mentioned some moments there, John, but 1714 01:21:48,293 --> 01:21:50,852 Speaker 3: what are some of your greatest memories looking back on 1715 01:21:50,893 --> 01:21:51,812 Speaker 3: that incredible journey? 1716 01:21:52,772 --> 01:21:56,333 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, there's so many. I mean it's thirty 1717 01:21:56,412 --> 01:22:00,293 Speaker 7: six years, so I mean there's a lot of you know, 1718 01:22:00,372 --> 01:22:03,012 Speaker 7: there's a lot of albums, you know, you know, good 1719 01:22:03,053 --> 01:22:06,372 Speaker 7: and bad and average and being great, and then you 1720 01:22:06,372 --> 01:22:09,253 Speaker 7: know moments where it all comes into focus. I don't know. 1721 01:22:09,333 --> 01:22:12,012 Speaker 7: I mean when you think about when I think about 1722 01:22:12,053 --> 01:22:14,612 Speaker 7: live shows, the Big Day Out was always great for us. 1723 01:22:14,652 --> 01:22:17,372 Speaker 7: I loved the Big Out. I mean, being able to 1724 01:22:17,452 --> 01:22:19,812 Speaker 7: play in front of that many people, go and see 1725 01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:22,892 Speaker 7: all the bands you're in love with, then hang out 1726 01:22:22,933 --> 01:22:26,692 Speaker 7: with Joe's strummer from the Clash back age, and you know, 1727 01:22:26,772 --> 01:22:30,293 Speaker 7: it's just like those moments are so dear to me, 1728 01:22:30,572 --> 01:22:32,892 Speaker 7: you know, I mean, and then outside of that, you know, 1729 01:22:33,013 --> 01:22:35,173 Speaker 7: touring with Black Sabbath. I was a Black Sabbath stand 1730 01:22:35,253 --> 01:22:37,492 Speaker 7: from when I was a kid. And then to have 1731 01:22:37,893 --> 01:22:40,293 Speaker 7: you know, playing one of my songs then look over 1732 01:22:40,333 --> 01:22:43,812 Speaker 7: and see Toney Iomi and Geezer Butler standing side of stage, 1733 01:22:44,333 --> 01:22:47,253 Speaker 7: It's like those things are just unreal to me. You know, 1734 01:22:47,333 --> 01:22:51,892 Speaker 7: they're just so many amazing moments and I feel really blessed, 1735 01:22:51,893 --> 01:22:54,973 Speaker 7: nothing really unfortunate been how to do that? 1736 01:22:55,173 --> 01:22:56,973 Speaker 2: You know, we're talking to Johnny too Good from she 1737 01:22:57,053 --> 01:23:00,013 Speaker 2: had now speaking of you know, being a kid and 1738 01:23:00,612 --> 01:23:02,572 Speaker 2: what you imagine when you look back now and think 1739 01:23:02,572 --> 01:23:05,452 Speaker 2: about the little Metler who formed a band who went 1740 01:23:05,492 --> 01:23:07,372 Speaker 2: on to write songs that everyone in the country knows 1741 01:23:07,372 --> 01:23:09,933 Speaker 2: the words too Home Again and Run Pacifier. Does it 1742 01:23:09,973 --> 01:23:12,213 Speaker 2: ever strike you the impact? Do you just think and 1743 01:23:12,572 --> 01:23:15,052 Speaker 2: reflect on it, the impact you've had on the country, 1744 01:23:15,093 --> 01:23:16,492 Speaker 2: and how does that make you feel? 1745 01:23:17,333 --> 01:23:20,133 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm all. I mean, I come from Zeon, 1746 01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:24,612 Speaker 7: so I've got a real My parents are both working 1747 01:23:24,652 --> 01:23:28,852 Speaker 7: class Londoners, so I've got a real workman sort of 1748 01:23:28,893 --> 01:23:31,173 Speaker 7: ethic towards it, I mean, and all of us have. 1749 01:23:31,372 --> 01:23:34,492 Speaker 7: It's like it's a it's a job, you know, and 1750 01:23:34,532 --> 01:23:38,933 Speaker 7: it's it's an amazing job. It's it's so great that 1751 01:23:39,013 --> 01:23:41,692 Speaker 7: I wake up, you know, every day and go cool 1752 01:23:41,812 --> 01:23:43,612 Speaker 7: actually get much to make music to pay their rent, 1753 01:23:43,652 --> 01:23:47,892 Speaker 7: which is great. But we never really spend much time 1754 01:23:47,973 --> 01:23:50,973 Speaker 7: looking back. It's always about what can we do to 1755 01:23:51,093 --> 01:23:53,692 Speaker 7: improve the life show, what can we do to make 1756 01:23:54,452 --> 01:23:58,612 Speaker 7: the record sound as big as we do live. It's 1757 01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:02,133 Speaker 7: always it's going on that journey, you know. So yeah, 1758 01:24:02,452 --> 01:24:05,052 Speaker 7: I always I'm always in a moment and I'm always 1759 01:24:05,093 --> 01:24:08,652 Speaker 7: looking at what's next. You know, so that whole beacy 1760 01:24:08,652 --> 01:24:12,452 Speaker 7: thinks it's sort of external from my experience of the band. 1761 01:24:12,572 --> 01:24:17,333 Speaker 7: You know. I'm always really with people that come up 1762 01:24:17,372 --> 01:24:19,612 Speaker 7: and say, hey, you know, I was at the Whaling 1763 01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:21,732 Speaker 7: Bongo when I was at university and you guys blew 1764 01:24:21,772 --> 01:24:25,412 Speaker 7: my mind. And that's great because I'm like, you know, 1765 01:24:25,612 --> 01:24:29,213 Speaker 7: that's I really appreciate it when people do come up 1766 01:24:29,253 --> 01:24:31,973 Speaker 7: and say that sort of stuff. But it's for me. 1767 01:24:32,372 --> 01:24:36,693 Speaker 7: I'm just thinking about how can I articulate my experience 1768 01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:39,572 Speaker 7: of the world better in a song. I'm on that journey, 1769 01:24:39,572 --> 01:24:42,333 Speaker 7: you know, so I don't really think too much about 1770 01:24:42,333 --> 01:24:46,333 Speaker 7: the legacy of the band or or looking back, you know. 1771 01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:48,852 Speaker 7: And in fact, to the point where when we were 1772 01:24:49,053 --> 01:24:50,812 Speaker 7: when we got the call that we were being inducted 1773 01:24:50,853 --> 01:24:52,412 Speaker 7: into the New Zealand Lock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1774 01:24:53,492 --> 01:24:56,173 Speaker 7: I was flatted, but I was also a little bit like, well, 1775 01:24:56,412 --> 01:24:57,972 Speaker 7: I'm in the middle of right of the next record? 1776 01:24:59,692 --> 01:25:00,492 Speaker 7: Am I that old? 1777 01:25:00,572 --> 01:25:00,732 Speaker 27: You know? 1778 01:25:01,812 --> 01:25:05,012 Speaker 2: You know, have you thought, Johnny about the last show 1779 01:25:05,093 --> 01:25:06,932 Speaker 2: you play, what your emotions are going to be when 1780 01:25:06,973 --> 01:25:08,572 Speaker 2: you throw your hand in the air like you on 1781 01:25:08,612 --> 01:25:11,293 Speaker 2: stage and say thank you and goodbye. When you say 1782 01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:12,053 Speaker 2: that for the last time. 1783 01:25:12,093 --> 01:25:12,333 Speaker 20: Have you. 1784 01:25:12,372 --> 01:25:14,372 Speaker 2: Have you contemplated that that moment. 1785 01:25:15,293 --> 01:25:19,532 Speaker 7: I haven't got that far yet. I've basically basically gone, okay, right, 1786 01:25:19,652 --> 01:25:22,013 Speaker 7: what is the work load? How are we going to 1787 01:25:22,013 --> 01:25:27,173 Speaker 7: make these shows memorable and epic and how much work 1788 01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:30,532 Speaker 7: is that going to require. I'm just looking at making 1789 01:25:30,732 --> 01:25:33,932 Speaker 7: sure that each show is amazing. So so I'm sure 1790 01:25:33,973 --> 01:25:37,293 Speaker 7: it's going to be emotional, but I'm leaving that till 1791 01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:37,732 Speaker 7: the moment. 1792 01:25:37,772 --> 01:25:40,572 Speaker 2: You know, well, I'm looking forward to that moment myself. 1793 01:25:40,612 --> 01:25:42,612 Speaker 2: It'll be sad, but I mentioned it'll be awesome, like 1794 01:25:43,133 --> 01:25:46,052 Speaker 2: every she Had show I've ever seen has been. Speaking 1795 01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:48,812 Speaker 2: of live shows, put you on the spot here, what 1796 01:25:49,013 --> 01:25:51,852 Speaker 2: is the best show you have ever played? And what 1797 01:25:51,933 --> 01:25:53,293 Speaker 2: is the best show you have ever seen? 1798 01:25:54,173 --> 01:25:56,973 Speaker 7: It's the best show we'd have played. It's got to 1799 01:25:56,973 --> 01:26:01,492 Speaker 7: be the supporting ACDC with some spring ye I think 1800 01:26:01,612 --> 01:26:06,452 Speaker 7: sixty yes. I mean it was like literally a town 1801 01:26:06,572 --> 01:26:09,492 Speaker 7: of rock fans, so we were in our happy place. 1802 01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:14,093 Speaker 7: I was so nervous walking out beforehand that my eyeballs 1803 01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:16,133 Speaker 7: were shaking inside my skull a year. 1804 01:26:16,412 --> 01:26:17,372 Speaker 9: As soon as I was on. 1805 01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,452 Speaker 7: The stage, it was like I felt like I was 1806 01:26:19,452 --> 01:26:21,053 Speaker 7: in the center of the universe and it was like 1807 01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:24,372 Speaker 7: the best feeling of all the time. Got played a 1808 01:26:24,372 --> 01:26:26,772 Speaker 7: great show, then you know, towel down afterwards, got rid 1809 01:26:26,812 --> 01:26:28,972 Speaker 7: of the sweat, and then when watched my favorite live 1810 01:26:29,053 --> 01:26:31,973 Speaker 7: band play ACDC. So that was pretty ep at night 1811 01:26:32,013 --> 01:26:32,253 Speaker 7: for me. 1812 01:26:32,492 --> 01:26:32,692 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1813 01:26:33,173 --> 01:26:36,293 Speaker 7: And as far as seeing bands, man, I haven't seen 1814 01:26:36,372 --> 01:26:39,612 Speaker 7: so many great bands. I've been really lucky. I think 1815 01:26:39,732 --> 01:26:42,932 Speaker 7: it would probably be through Ghazi at the Uni Hall, 1816 01:26:43,133 --> 01:26:47,452 Speaker 7: in the Union Hall at the University in Wellington. Just 1817 01:26:48,253 --> 01:26:51,372 Speaker 7: the fact that they had three park hands, which is 1818 01:26:52,732 --> 01:26:55,612 Speaker 7: not a light show at all, and yet it didn't matter. 1819 01:26:55,853 --> 01:26:58,732 Speaker 7: It's like the passion those guys in the sweat that 1820 01:26:58,772 --> 01:27:02,213 Speaker 7: those guys put out. It just totally changed my life, 1821 01:27:02,253 --> 01:27:04,492 Speaker 7: you know. Like, so that's probably what I say. 1822 01:27:04,893 --> 01:27:07,133 Speaker 2: Oh well, thanks so much, Tohnny too good. You're a 1823 01:27:07,133 --> 01:27:09,652 Speaker 2: great New Zealander. You've so much joy to the country. 1824 01:27:09,812 --> 01:27:12,452 Speaker 2: Thank you. You will be missed, but you will never 1825 01:27:12,492 --> 01:27:13,052 Speaker 2: be forgotten. 1826 01:27:13,133 --> 01:27:13,333 Speaker 27: Yeah. 1827 01:27:13,412 --> 01:27:15,333 Speaker 3: Go well for the final tour, John and thanks for 1828 01:27:15,372 --> 01:27:16,052 Speaker 3: having a chat. 1829 01:27:15,893 --> 01:27:17,732 Speaker 7: With us, Thanks for having me. 1830 01:27:18,053 --> 01:27:21,772 Speaker 3: So just the details for the final tour for she Had, 1831 01:27:21,812 --> 01:27:23,612 Speaker 3: If you go to she had dot com, you can 1832 01:27:23,732 --> 01:27:26,932 Speaker 3: get all the details all throughout summer and you can 1833 01:27:26,973 --> 01:27:28,932 Speaker 3: find tickets there. It's going to be a hell of 1834 01:27:28,933 --> 01:27:33,133 Speaker 3: the final tour get amongst. Right after the break, we're 1835 01:27:33,133 --> 01:27:35,532 Speaker 3: gonna have a chat about the best concert that you've 1836 01:27:35,532 --> 01:27:37,973 Speaker 3: been to of all time? Yeah, have you had to 1837 01:27:37,973 --> 01:27:39,492 Speaker 3: think about what you're gonna put at number one? 1838 01:27:39,652 --> 01:27:42,372 Speaker 2: I have, actually, and look, this has been. As Johnny 1839 01:27:42,412 --> 01:27:46,092 Speaker 2: Toogood said, that's a very very difficult question to answer. 1840 01:27:46,133 --> 01:27:47,812 Speaker 2: I've been to been to a lot of shows, a 1841 01:27:47,853 --> 01:27:49,972 Speaker 2: lot of Goat shows, a lot of other shows. But 1842 01:27:49,973 --> 01:27:52,492 Speaker 2: but I've decided on the one I'm going to say 1843 01:27:52,532 --> 01:27:54,253 Speaker 2: it is because of the effect it had on me. 1844 01:27:54,452 --> 01:27:58,372 Speaker 3: What it's the sixteen past three news talks, there'd be 1845 01:27:58,492 --> 01:28:01,213 Speaker 3: nineteen past three. What is the greatest concert that you've 1846 01:28:01,213 --> 01:28:02,372 Speaker 3: been to? Are you're going to say it now? Are 1847 01:28:02,412 --> 01:28:04,133 Speaker 3: you going to wait to the end of the hour? 1848 01:28:04,333 --> 01:28:06,253 Speaker 2: No, I'm going to say mine now. It was when 1849 01:28:06,253 --> 01:28:08,053 Speaker 2: I went to see The Cure as a young man 1850 01:28:08,173 --> 01:28:11,652 Speaker 2: and at Wellington Town Hall, and that was the most 1851 01:28:11,692 --> 01:28:15,213 Speaker 2: phenomenal concert. I believe it was the Wish tour and 1852 01:28:15,893 --> 01:28:17,892 Speaker 2: I was right up the front and the mosh pert 1853 01:28:17,933 --> 01:28:20,693 Speaker 2: it got so hot at one point I lost consciousness 1854 01:28:20,732 --> 01:28:23,133 Speaker 2: and when I came back round again, I was throwing 1855 01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:26,732 Speaker 2: up on some poor ladies back some poor girls back 1856 01:28:26,893 --> 01:28:29,372 Speaker 2: and trying to apologize. But then I was suddenly meters 1857 01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:32,293 Speaker 2: and meters away. But apart from that down buzz, it 1858 01:28:32,372 --> 01:28:33,852 Speaker 2: was an incredible show. 1859 01:28:34,013 --> 01:28:36,412 Speaker 3: It sounds it right. How are you mate? 1860 01:28:37,372 --> 01:28:39,213 Speaker 10: I'm good then, you guys, it's good to hear you 1861 01:28:39,372 --> 01:28:40,093 Speaker 10: this afternoon. 1862 01:28:40,173 --> 01:28:41,173 Speaker 8: Every day, it's great. 1863 01:28:41,253 --> 01:28:41,812 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. 1864 01:28:42,213 --> 01:28:45,093 Speaker 21: Look I tell you yeah, yeah, yeah, look, I'll tell 1865 01:28:45,133 --> 01:28:55,052 Speaker 21: you what. I'm a country shipkicker sand basically, but you know, grateful, dead, remnant. 1866 01:28:55,372 --> 01:28:59,053 Speaker 21: But the two concerts that I've seen that were seamlessly 1867 01:28:59,213 --> 01:29:02,333 Speaker 21: perfect was Massive Attack the first. 1868 01:29:02,133 --> 01:29:07,092 Speaker 29: Time they came out here with the measling concept Logan Campbell, 1869 01:29:07,412 --> 01:29:10,253 Speaker 29: and it was just there's nothing wrong with it. And 1870 01:29:10,333 --> 01:29:15,572 Speaker 29: I also saw that San Francisco dand the residents who 1871 01:29:15,612 --> 01:29:17,852 Speaker 29: are pretty weird, but I saw them at the power 1872 01:29:17,853 --> 01:29:23,892 Speaker 29: station and that was a seamlessly perfect concept. Rough edges 1873 01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:26,412 Speaker 29: nothing and they always stand out, you know. 1874 01:29:26,772 --> 01:29:29,173 Speaker 15: So I just sort of let you know about that. 1875 01:29:29,692 --> 01:29:31,892 Speaker 3: Good call. Yeah, love, Massive Attack, Thank you. 1876 01:29:31,853 --> 01:29:34,173 Speaker 2: So much for your cal Rod, appreciate it. The residence. 1877 01:29:34,532 --> 01:29:37,652 Speaker 2: For some reason, I'm picturing a massive eyeball with it 1878 01:29:37,692 --> 01:29:38,732 Speaker 2: with a top hat on it. 1879 01:29:38,772 --> 01:29:40,932 Speaker 3: But I'm not sure why bang on. I just looked 1880 01:29:40,973 --> 01:29:43,293 Speaker 3: them up and that's exactly it. The old eyeball with 1881 01:29:43,333 --> 01:29:43,852 Speaker 3: the top hat. 1882 01:29:44,333 --> 01:29:46,253 Speaker 2: Okay, right, that's all I know about the residence. 1883 01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:49,253 Speaker 3: Craig, How are you good? 1884 01:29:49,412 --> 01:29:52,293 Speaker 30: How's your show going today? Quite good, isn't it? It 1885 01:29:52,293 --> 01:29:53,692 Speaker 30: would be nice to hear a little bit more of 1886 01:29:53,732 --> 01:29:55,772 Speaker 30: Tyler and not so much from Mat. I mean, otherwise 1887 01:29:55,772 --> 01:29:57,532 Speaker 30: he's going to run a material for his next book. 1888 01:29:58,612 --> 01:30:01,132 Speaker 3: He's got the yarns, Craig, He's got great stories. 1889 01:30:01,333 --> 01:30:01,532 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1890 01:30:01,572 --> 01:30:04,012 Speaker 31: Yeah, It's like I listened to quite often, and sometimes 1891 01:30:04,053 --> 01:30:05,893 Speaker 31: you hear you Tyler just about to say something and 1892 01:30:05,973 --> 01:30:06,812 Speaker 31: overtaken by Matt. 1893 01:30:06,853 --> 01:30:09,613 Speaker 30: It's like which like the anyway. 1894 01:30:09,372 --> 01:30:13,732 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, okay, it's not the Matt review. 1895 01:30:13,973 --> 01:30:15,293 Speaker 2: It's your favorite concert. 1896 01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:16,692 Speaker 27: Oh no. 1897 01:30:16,732 --> 01:30:18,692 Speaker 30: They take more than now for that. 1898 01:30:18,973 --> 01:30:20,812 Speaker 31: As far as the concerts go, I've been quite lucky 1899 01:30:20,812 --> 01:30:23,013 Speaker 31: over the years working for Sound high companies over the year, 1900 01:30:23,013 --> 01:30:25,812 Speaker 31: so I've got to go behind the scenes and be 1901 01:30:25,973 --> 01:30:29,532 Speaker 31: on the other side of the stage. Got to meet 1902 01:30:29,572 --> 01:30:31,972 Speaker 31: some really good roadies over the years and got their numbers. 1903 01:30:32,053 --> 01:30:33,893 Speaker 30: I still keep in contact with. But I managed you 1904 01:30:34,053 --> 01:30:36,532 Speaker 30: see like you two pearl Jim the first time around 1905 01:30:36,652 --> 01:30:40,732 Speaker 30: you to ac DC and all those bands, and it's 1906 01:30:40,772 --> 01:30:42,892 Speaker 30: a different story when you're behind the scenes and you're 1907 01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:45,253 Speaker 30: talking to the artists and not on stage and before 1908 01:30:45,293 --> 01:30:47,372 Speaker 30: they come on, and you get to hear some interesting 1909 01:30:47,412 --> 01:30:49,772 Speaker 30: stories about them over the years and all that. But 1910 01:30:49,812 --> 01:30:52,333 Speaker 30: I think my favorite band will have to be Sound Garden. 1911 01:30:52,732 --> 01:30:57,812 Speaker 30: That guy had an incredible voice and yeah, said what 1912 01:30:58,253 --> 01:31:01,772 Speaker 30: happened all that? But yeah, it was was that concert? 1913 01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:02,892 Speaker 2: Where was that concert? 1914 01:31:02,973 --> 01:31:06,492 Speaker 30: Great years ago now over in Australia. I think it 1915 01:31:06,532 --> 01:31:11,293 Speaker 30: was Sydney, going back for years now, but man, there's 1916 01:31:11,293 --> 01:31:13,412 Speaker 30: some of the high notes that guy wreck. You're sitting 1917 01:31:13,452 --> 01:31:15,253 Speaker 30: on the silent sitting on the side of the stage 1918 01:31:15,293 --> 01:31:18,652 Speaker 30: on the with all the other soundticks and all that. Yeah, 1919 01:31:18,692 --> 01:31:20,253 Speaker 30: and you hit those high notes and you're like you 1920 01:31:20,412 --> 01:31:22,013 Speaker 30: just your hear's in your back and neck would just 1921 01:31:22,053 --> 01:31:22,932 Speaker 30: go up, like wow. 1922 01:31:23,412 --> 01:31:25,932 Speaker 2: I mean an incredible band, but also yeah, his voice 1923 01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:30,653 Speaker 2: could cut through. The band could be incredibly loud, incredibly distorted, Yeah, phenomenal, 1924 01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:33,572 Speaker 2: but his voice so powerful that it would cut through 1925 01:31:33,652 --> 01:31:35,333 Speaker 2: in a sound game concert. It was almost fifty to 1926 01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:38,412 Speaker 2: fifty with the music and the vocals were incredible. Musician. 1927 01:31:38,412 --> 01:31:40,293 Speaker 3: He was when he did that cover of Billy Jean 1928 01:31:40,372 --> 01:31:43,333 Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. That was a haunting version, but man, it 1929 01:31:43,412 --> 01:31:45,692 Speaker 3: was good. Craig, thank you very much. Oh eight hundred 1930 01:31:45,692 --> 01:31:47,372 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is number to call the best 1931 01:31:47,372 --> 01:31:49,532 Speaker 3: concert that you've been too love to hear from you. 1932 01:31:49,692 --> 01:31:51,933 Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text. Number eight is 1933 01:31:51,933 --> 01:31:53,133 Speaker 3: twenty two plus frow Just. 1934 01:31:53,093 --> 01:31:55,972 Speaker 2: So we hear from Tyler. To make our last caller happy, 1935 01:31:56,213 --> 01:31:58,652 Speaker 2: We'll put you on the spot and ask what your 1936 01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:00,253 Speaker 2: favorite concert you've ever seen. 1937 01:32:00,333 --> 01:32:02,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Okay, Craig, I love you, mate, but 1938 01:32:02,253 --> 01:32:04,173 Speaker 3: you're wrong. Matt's got some great yarns and I want 1939 01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:06,173 Speaker 3: to hear the yarns. And I talk enough on this show. 1940 01:32:06,213 --> 01:32:07,892 Speaker 3: You don't want you. You talk too much more, Matt 1941 01:32:07,973 --> 01:32:10,652 Speaker 3: less time I say one hundred eighty ten eighty is 1942 01:32:10,652 --> 01:32:12,813 Speaker 3: the number to two twenty three past. 1943 01:32:12,492 --> 01:32:20,772 Speaker 1: Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred 1944 01:32:20,893 --> 01:32:22,812 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk said be. 1945 01:32:23,253 --> 01:32:25,293 Speaker 2: So she had an announced that they're breaking up and 1946 01:32:25,293 --> 01:32:27,452 Speaker 2: they're going on their final tour, and we've got Coldplay 1947 01:32:27,452 --> 01:32:29,333 Speaker 2: in the country, and I believe with one hundred and 1948 01:32:29,372 --> 01:32:31,772 Speaker 2: fifty thousand tickets sold over three concerts is going to 1949 01:32:31,812 --> 01:32:34,253 Speaker 2: be the biggest tour ever to New Zealand. So we're 1950 01:32:34,293 --> 01:32:37,012 Speaker 2: asking what is the best concert you have ever seen? 1951 01:32:37,213 --> 01:32:38,732 Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1952 01:32:38,692 --> 01:32:40,572 Speaker 3: And you asked for mine before had a good thing 1953 01:32:40,652 --> 01:32:42,812 Speaker 3: about it. I haven't been to as many concerts as you, 1954 01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:44,892 Speaker 3: but Red Hot Chili Peppers when they came to New 1955 01:32:44,973 --> 01:32:48,452 Speaker 3: Zealand two thousand and seven Vector Arena, and that was 1956 01:32:48,532 --> 01:32:50,532 Speaker 3: next level for me as a young student. It would 1957 01:32:50,532 --> 01:32:53,053 Speaker 3: have been about twenty one, weighed about fifty kel. I 1958 01:32:53,093 --> 01:32:55,932 Speaker 3: was a skinny weekend in that moshpet, and that moshpit 1959 01:32:56,053 --> 01:32:58,732 Speaker 3: went hard. I mean, Anthony Keaters say what you're all about? 1960 01:32:58,732 --> 01:33:01,293 Speaker 3: The guy, great frontman, and all of them flee. He 1961 01:33:01,412 --> 01:33:03,852 Speaker 3: was getting into it, racking up the crowd. Not too 1962 01:33:03,853 --> 01:33:06,013 Speaker 3: many stories being told. But when the crowd started to 1963 01:33:06,053 --> 01:33:08,093 Speaker 3: die down and the energy got low, the ban just 1964 01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:09,852 Speaker 3: rah right up. 1965 01:33:09,973 --> 01:33:12,452 Speaker 2: They do a great thing where the band rock out 1966 01:33:12,452 --> 01:33:15,013 Speaker 2: when Anthony's off stage and they just jam for like 1967 01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:16,852 Speaker 2: two or three minutes. He comes on to another hurt, 1968 01:33:16,933 --> 01:33:19,213 Speaker 2: he goes off. They jam out there. Yeah, they're a 1969 01:33:19,253 --> 01:33:21,732 Speaker 2: really good live man. I'm sick of hearing them because 1970 01:33:21,732 --> 01:33:24,093 Speaker 2: I was on Radiohadeche for about four thousand years and 1971 01:33:24,093 --> 01:33:27,532 Speaker 2: we played them every thirty seconds. But great live man Rose, 1972 01:33:27,572 --> 01:33:28,053 Speaker 2: how are you? 1973 01:33:29,372 --> 01:33:32,932 Speaker 25: Greetings lovely people, I am great on this beautiful day. 1974 01:33:32,933 --> 01:33:35,013 Speaker 8: And Gisborne, thank you, no, bless you? 1975 01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:36,652 Speaker 2: How are you very good? 1976 01:33:36,692 --> 01:33:38,892 Speaker 3: We're interested to hear what your favorite concert was? 1977 01:33:39,732 --> 01:33:41,892 Speaker 25: Okay, lo I you still live in Wellington and we 1978 01:33:41,933 --> 01:33:44,253 Speaker 25: went to all the concerts, but the one that I 1979 01:33:44,492 --> 01:33:48,213 Speaker 25: absolutely adored was Simon and Garfu Man. 1980 01:33:48,213 --> 01:33:49,492 Speaker 2: I would love to have seen them. 1981 01:33:50,452 --> 01:33:53,812 Speaker 25: Oh they were just crystal clear, beautiful, just the two 1982 01:33:53,893 --> 01:33:56,492 Speaker 25: of them. Yeah, and it was a beautiful blue sky 1983 01:33:56,652 --> 01:33:58,613 Speaker 25: and oh my god, they were amazing. 1984 01:33:59,133 --> 01:34:01,532 Speaker 2: The harmonies Rose, the harmonies. 1985 01:34:01,333 --> 01:34:04,933 Speaker 25: I know, they were just crystal clear. It was fabulous. 1986 01:34:05,372 --> 01:34:07,053 Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen and I'm not 1987 01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:09,293 Speaker 2: sure if they'll ever play again. They sort of they 1988 01:34:09,412 --> 01:34:11,213 Speaker 2: sort of had some arguments, those guys who now and 1989 01:34:11,213 --> 01:34:13,732 Speaker 2: they come back together. But I would have I would 1990 01:34:13,772 --> 01:34:15,532 Speaker 2: love to have I would love to see those guys. 1991 01:34:15,652 --> 01:34:18,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your favorite song? Simon and garf Uncle. 1992 01:34:19,093 --> 01:34:23,572 Speaker 25: Oh, Cricky, oh gosh, all of them. 1993 01:34:25,333 --> 01:34:27,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it was. 1994 01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:31,412 Speaker 25: An open concert and they started early and so it 1995 01:34:31,492 --> 01:34:34,133 Speaker 25: was sort of still daylight when they actually started and 1996 01:34:34,173 --> 01:34:35,253 Speaker 25: it was kids friendly. 1997 01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:40,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a good Simon and Garth uncle love it. Chris, 1998 01:34:40,372 --> 01:34:42,372 Speaker 3: how you doing? What was your favorite concert? 1999 01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:47,093 Speaker 32: I've got two second places. 2000 01:34:46,933 --> 01:34:52,333 Speaker 2: Okay, which is Midnight Oil. 2001 01:34:53,612 --> 01:34:56,293 Speaker 32: And Chris Cornell doing a solo one. 2002 01:34:56,412 --> 01:34:57,293 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. 2003 01:34:57,372 --> 01:35:01,812 Speaker 32: Yeah, but I agree with that last person, Rehtli was 2004 01:35:01,812 --> 01:35:02,333 Speaker 32: a good. 2005 01:35:02,173 --> 01:35:04,133 Speaker 3: Concert, last person, Chris. 2006 01:35:06,652 --> 01:35:08,213 Speaker 7: But my top. 2007 01:35:07,973 --> 01:35:11,133 Speaker 32: One, which my wife I didn't actually mention, but my 2008 01:35:11,213 --> 01:35:15,572 Speaker 32: wife just said it, which because we went together, was 2009 01:35:15,612 --> 01:35:17,092 Speaker 32: the Stereophonics. 2010 01:35:17,973 --> 01:35:19,492 Speaker 2: Was that at the power station in Auckland? 2011 01:35:20,532 --> 01:35:21,372 Speaker 32: Nah, Wellington? 2012 01:35:21,492 --> 01:35:24,692 Speaker 2: Oh, Wellington. Yeah, I've heard a few people say that that. 2013 01:35:24,772 --> 01:35:25,972 Speaker 2: I know a few people that went to the concert 2014 01:35:26,013 --> 01:35:28,652 Speaker 2: in Auckland and said it was phenomenal. That guy's got 2015 01:35:28,652 --> 01:35:30,452 Speaker 2: great pipes, great Welsh pipes. 2016 01:35:30,492 --> 01:35:30,652 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2017 01:35:30,652 --> 01:35:32,612 Speaker 32: I mean I was just saying to my wife that 2018 01:35:33,893 --> 01:35:36,333 Speaker 32: it's the only time because we were really close to 2019 01:35:36,372 --> 01:35:39,692 Speaker 32: the stage, and it's the only time I've seen someone 2020 01:35:39,772 --> 01:35:41,093 Speaker 32: singing with X. 2021 01:35:41,213 --> 01:35:41,933 Speaker 15: You vibrates. 2022 01:35:45,933 --> 01:35:49,373 Speaker 3: Great description, Chris, Thank you very much. Right say, headlines 2023 01:35:49,372 --> 01:35:50,812 Speaker 3: coming up, but I went one hundred and eighty ten 2024 01:35:50,893 --> 01:35:53,932 Speaker 3: eighty is the number two? Cool love to hear about 2025 01:35:53,933 --> 01:35:57,333 Speaker 3: your favorite concert? Plenty of texts coming through on nine 2026 01:35:57,372 --> 01:35:59,013 Speaker 3: two nine two. We'll get to some of those very 2027 01:35:59,013 --> 01:36:01,093 Speaker 3: shortly as well. It's twenty nine past three. 2028 01:36:04,213 --> 01:36:07,692 Speaker 13: You talk there'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's 2029 01:36:07,772 --> 01:36:10,892 Speaker 13: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's promising a 2030 01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:14,333 Speaker 13: more tailored approach to helping people in emergency housing with 2031 01:36:14,452 --> 01:36:18,492 Speaker 13: complex needs into permanent homes. It's launching a two year 2032 01:36:18,532 --> 01:36:23,133 Speaker 13: trial with Wellington City Mission and to emerge Alturoa in Waikatu. 2033 01:36:24,093 --> 01:36:28,173 Speaker 13: The hikoy opposing the Treaty Principal's Bill has crossed Auckland today, 2034 01:36:28,213 --> 01:36:32,732 Speaker 13: with marches gathering at Bastion Point. Its final destination is Parliament. 2035 01:36:33,093 --> 01:36:36,573 Speaker 13: It will continue south into Waikatu and Huntley this afternoon. 2036 01:36:37,612 --> 01:36:41,492 Speaker 13: The Media and Communications Minister says the Fair Digital News 2037 01:36:41,612 --> 01:36:45,852 Speaker 13: Bargaining Bill, legislation that would force tech giants to pay 2038 01:36:45,893 --> 01:36:49,372 Speaker 13: for news content, isn't ready for its scheduled second reading 2039 01:36:49,412 --> 01:36:53,333 Speaker 13: in Parliament today. No new date has been set. The 2040 01:36:53,333 --> 01:36:56,213 Speaker 13: Ministry for Primary Industries as warning the risk of bird 2041 01:36:56,253 --> 01:36:59,412 Speaker 13: flu is high, with a new strain spreading in wild 2042 01:36:59,532 --> 01:37:03,012 Speaker 13: birds worldwide. Over the past four years. It's been found 2043 01:37:03,013 --> 01:37:06,213 Speaker 13: in Falkland Islands, penguins, as well as in the Antarctic 2044 01:37:06,293 --> 01:37:10,852 Speaker 13: region main freights. It's challenging trading conditions as half year 2045 01:37:10,933 --> 01:37:14,172 Speaker 13: profits dip. Find out more at ZiT here all premium. 2046 01:37:14,253 --> 01:37:16,012 Speaker 13: Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams. 2047 01:37:16,013 --> 01:37:18,812 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Roylean. It's twenty eight to four oh. 2048 01:37:18,652 --> 01:37:21,692 Speaker 2: One hundred eighteen eighty. Yeah, your favorite band you've ever 2049 01:37:21,692 --> 01:37:23,812 Speaker 2: seen in New Zealand. It's constant you ever seen Cold 2050 01:37:23,812 --> 01:37:25,852 Speaker 2: Player in the country. They are a huge band. The 2051 01:37:25,893 --> 01:37:29,652 Speaker 2: excitement is brewing in across Auckland tonight for that excitement 2052 01:37:29,652 --> 01:37:31,492 Speaker 2: brewing for me as well as I'm going we have 2053 01:37:31,853 --> 01:37:34,732 Speaker 2: in Parksio Nick Sautner on the line. Nick, one hundred 2054 01:37:34,772 --> 01:37:37,333 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand punters over three concerts. Does this make 2055 01:37:37,333 --> 01:37:38,812 Speaker 2: it the biggest tour ever to New Zealand? 2056 01:37:39,612 --> 01:37:41,492 Speaker 26: This will be the biggest tour of New Zealand And 2057 01:37:41,572 --> 01:37:44,213 Speaker 26: thanking so much for your time. The biggest rock band 2058 01:37:44,612 --> 01:37:48,253 Speaker 26: on the planet show number one seven three tonight and 2059 01:37:48,612 --> 01:37:51,852 Speaker 26: as you can imagine, we are pumped. I'm sure if 2060 01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:55,012 Speaker 26: you ask the question tomorrow people will be saying Cold Played. 2061 01:37:55,133 --> 01:37:57,133 Speaker 26: Edenpark will be ever. 2062 01:37:57,532 --> 01:38:00,852 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I've heard that stat that that Coldplayer the 2063 01:38:00,853 --> 01:38:02,932 Speaker 2: biggest rock band in the world. At the moment, people 2064 01:38:02,973 --> 01:38:04,612 Speaker 2: try and push back on that, but if you actually 2065 01:38:04,612 --> 01:38:07,812 Speaker 2: start looking into it, it actually it actually stacks up. 2066 01:38:08,412 --> 01:38:10,452 Speaker 2: What can people expect for the gig tonight? What of 2067 01:38:10,492 --> 01:38:11,293 Speaker 2: the band got planned? 2068 01:38:12,412 --> 01:38:14,852 Speaker 26: It is an amazing show. It's fortunate enough prior to 2069 01:38:14,933 --> 01:38:18,293 Speaker 26: signing the artist we went over and saw it in 2070 01:38:18,372 --> 01:38:22,732 Speaker 26: Perth and the tours started in March twenty twenty two. 2071 01:38:23,853 --> 01:38:26,892 Speaker 26: Our gates open at five o'clock externally. I've just been 2072 01:38:26,973 --> 01:38:31,173 Speaker 26: walking externally at Eden Park. There are people purchasing merchandise. 2073 01:38:31,253 --> 01:38:34,492 Speaker 26: They're killing to get on the GA floor. I just 2074 01:38:34,612 --> 01:38:38,213 Speaker 26: encouraging people to get here early. There's three support artists 2075 01:38:38,253 --> 01:38:40,972 Speaker 26: starting from five point thirty, a huge amount of food 2076 01:38:41,013 --> 01:38:44,652 Speaker 26: and beverage on offer. We're just looking forward to another 2077 01:38:44,732 --> 01:38:47,013 Speaker 26: memorable moment at our National Stadium. 2078 01:38:47,093 --> 01:38:49,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic, So Nick, you'll get to watch this concert 2079 01:38:49,732 --> 01:38:52,092 Speaker 3: three times right tonight, Friday and Saturday. 2080 01:38:52,933 --> 01:38:55,692 Speaker 26: Well, given the sky Full of Stars was my wedding 2081 01:38:55,812 --> 01:38:59,652 Speaker 26: dance and my four year old loves Beautiful, My six 2082 01:38:59,732 --> 01:39:02,612 Speaker 26: year old love Skyful of Stars. They've already created their 2083 01:39:02,652 --> 01:39:06,133 Speaker 26: outfits to come long later in the week. But I 2084 01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:09,293 Speaker 26: talk about we've got a big responsibility here. We've got 2085 01:39:09,293 --> 01:39:12,173 Speaker 26: three thousand staff working. We want people to come have 2086 01:39:12,253 --> 01:39:16,052 Speaker 26: a safe and enjoyable experience and walk away with memories 2087 01:39:16,053 --> 01:39:19,133 Speaker 26: that they'll never forget. So yes, I am working tonight, 2088 01:39:19,173 --> 01:39:21,052 Speaker 26: but I can assure you there'll be a time when 2089 01:39:21,333 --> 01:39:24,052 Speaker 26: I just reflect and I'm so proud of the team 2090 01:39:24,412 --> 01:39:26,412 Speaker 26: and what they've been able to achieve. When you look 2091 01:39:26,412 --> 01:39:29,253 Speaker 26: at the artists that Eden Park has had since obtaining 2092 01:39:29,253 --> 01:39:33,253 Speaker 26: our Consequences and let's bring on more rock at Eden Park. 2093 01:39:33,412 --> 01:39:35,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your neck and I imagine there'll be 2094 01:39:35,213 --> 01:39:36,572 Speaker 2: a lump and throat and a few tears at some 2095 01:39:36,612 --> 01:39:40,052 Speaker 2: point from the CEO of EDN Bark over the next 2096 01:39:40,253 --> 01:39:43,572 Speaker 2: few days. Thank you so much. So hundred and eighty 2097 01:39:43,612 --> 01:39:45,572 Speaker 2: ten eighty the best concert you've ever seen? 2098 01:39:46,492 --> 01:39:49,213 Speaker 3: Mike, what do you reckon? A? 2099 01:39:49,532 --> 01:39:54,133 Speaker 33: Greetings, guys, was great to hear job that interview. 2100 01:39:53,772 --> 01:39:55,692 Speaker 2: With John Yeah, are you too good? 2101 01:39:57,173 --> 01:40:00,652 Speaker 33: I'm a Wellington High School old boy as well, but 2102 01:40:00,772 --> 01:40:02,972 Speaker 33: a bit older than he was when he went there. 2103 01:40:03,812 --> 01:40:11,133 Speaker 33: And in nineteen seven two we all hopped on a 2104 01:40:11,173 --> 01:40:15,293 Speaker 33: train at Warrington Station and went to see led Zeppyron 2105 01:40:15,652 --> 01:40:17,253 Speaker 33: at Western Springs. 2106 01:40:17,492 --> 01:40:20,733 Speaker 2: That is an legendary show. I've seen lots of photos 2107 01:40:21,133 --> 01:40:25,612 Speaker 2: from that show. It looked increadible and you know, no 2108 01:40:25,652 --> 01:40:27,372 Speaker 2: one was ever going to get to see that that 2109 01:40:27,692 --> 01:40:32,772 Speaker 2: band again, obviously because not all the members are around anymore. 2110 01:40:32,812 --> 01:40:35,612 Speaker 2: But can you describe the show? What was the atmosphere like? 2111 01:40:35,652 --> 01:40:37,572 Speaker 2: Because back then you didn't have the big screens, you 2112 01:40:37,572 --> 01:40:38,852 Speaker 2: didn't have the big. 2113 01:40:38,692 --> 01:40:43,852 Speaker 33: Big screens. It was it was packed out and of 2114 01:40:43,893 --> 01:40:47,772 Speaker 33: course kind of the whole train was full of led 2115 01:40:47,853 --> 01:40:50,333 Speaker 33: zeppyron bands. You can imagine what that was like. 2116 01:40:50,612 --> 01:40:52,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, party. 2117 01:40:53,412 --> 01:40:57,213 Speaker 33: Phenomenal, you know. And I think it was the first 2118 01:40:57,213 --> 01:41:00,133 Speaker 33: time they made to step because Stairway to Heaven had 2119 01:41:00,173 --> 01:41:03,333 Speaker 33: just come out, and I think it might have been 2120 01:41:03,452 --> 01:41:05,732 Speaker 33: I could be wrong, the first time they'd done it live. 2121 01:41:05,893 --> 01:41:10,412 Speaker 33: But like you know, one of those you'll never ever forget. 2122 01:41:10,492 --> 01:41:13,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, historically, Yeah, can you imagine living in a world 2123 01:41:14,093 --> 01:41:17,492 Speaker 2: pre Stairway to Heaven. One of the things I really 2124 01:41:17,532 --> 01:41:19,213 Speaker 2: look forward to with my kids was showing them that, 2125 01:41:19,893 --> 01:41:21,932 Speaker 2: you know, a New Hope, the first Star Wars movie 2126 01:41:21,973 --> 01:41:24,293 Speaker 2: and playing them songs like Stairway to Heaven and Beam 2127 01:41:24,372 --> 01:41:28,293 Speaker 2: and Rhapsody, and it's yeah, you can't imagine a world 2128 01:41:28,333 --> 01:41:30,972 Speaker 2: that existed before Steirway to heaven, it's so burnt into 2129 01:41:30,973 --> 01:41:31,613 Speaker 2: our consciousness. 2130 01:41:31,612 --> 01:41:33,732 Speaker 3: So you think about the bands now and which one 2131 01:41:33,893 --> 01:41:37,173 Speaker 3: of the bands that are playing today worldwide it would 2132 01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:39,173 Speaker 3: be seen in that respect. You know, it was a 2133 01:41:39,173 --> 01:41:42,212 Speaker 3: different era, wasn't it that they were historic concerts? 2134 01:41:42,532 --> 01:41:42,892 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2135 01:41:42,973 --> 01:41:45,293 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's hard hard to say, isn't it 2136 01:41:45,293 --> 01:41:48,812 Speaker 2: the ones that that last, that that that length of time? 2137 01:41:49,053 --> 01:41:51,692 Speaker 2: You know, you need you need thirty forty years for 2138 01:41:51,732 --> 01:41:54,692 Speaker 2: the bands that have that burn themselves into the concience forever. 2139 01:41:54,692 --> 01:41:56,452 Speaker 2: Which ones they are going to be? It's hard to say. 2140 01:41:56,572 --> 01:41:58,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve, you're at that concert as well. 2141 01:41:59,452 --> 01:42:01,893 Speaker 23: Yes, mate, Yeah, you just took it away from. 2142 01:42:01,973 --> 01:42:03,692 Speaker 3: Well, no, that's all right, because you're at a different 2143 01:42:03,692 --> 01:42:06,053 Speaker 3: part of the audience, no doubt. How was it for you? 2144 01:42:06,933 --> 01:42:07,173 Speaker 16: I was. 2145 01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:09,452 Speaker 23: I was strundon center on the stage right, I was 2146 01:42:10,173 --> 01:42:14,973 Speaker 23: right beside the damn speakers. Robert planned almostood on my 2147 01:42:15,053 --> 01:42:15,612 Speaker 23: damn fingers. 2148 01:42:15,772 --> 01:42:16,732 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 2149 01:42:17,053 --> 01:42:17,932 Speaker 23: Did you did you love? 2150 01:42:18,732 --> 01:42:20,732 Speaker 2: Did you have a sense at the time how historic 2151 01:42:20,853 --> 01:42:24,173 Speaker 2: that concert was and how significantly Zeppelin were going to 2152 01:42:24,213 --> 01:42:25,532 Speaker 2: be as a band going forward? 2153 01:42:27,612 --> 01:42:30,253 Speaker 23: I had an inkling, you know, I was only a 2154 01:42:30,253 --> 01:42:34,932 Speaker 23: young feller, like nineteen. I think about by Craiky. It 2155 01:42:34,973 --> 01:42:37,692 Speaker 23: was something special, mate, and I've followed Robert ever since. 2156 01:42:38,053 --> 01:42:40,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, how big were they at the time, Steve? I 2157 01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:43,293 Speaker 3: imagine they were pretty massive worldwide. But were they had 2158 01:42:43,333 --> 01:42:45,132 Speaker 3: they kind of taken over the world at that point? 2159 01:42:46,452 --> 01:42:49,213 Speaker 23: Oh, in my opinion, knew they had their own airplane. 2160 01:42:48,772 --> 01:42:52,692 Speaker 3: For Yeah, it's a good sign. 2161 01:42:52,333 --> 01:42:55,972 Speaker 23: But dippin Partla and you know, written sign, written down sign. 2162 01:42:56,173 --> 01:42:58,372 Speaker 23: It's just something that we didn't see, we never hear 2163 01:42:58,412 --> 01:43:02,372 Speaker 23: who knew about you know, Yeah, yeah, there's something special. 2164 01:43:02,372 --> 01:43:04,372 Speaker 23: It really was, and I'm so glad I was part 2165 01:43:04,372 --> 01:43:07,732 Speaker 23: of it. And Cashmere and you know, a whole lot 2166 01:43:07,732 --> 01:43:10,093 Speaker 23: of love and Rocius by the way. 2167 01:43:10,412 --> 01:43:13,092 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my favorite tivies a show called Freaks 2168 01:43:13,093 --> 01:43:15,412 Speaker 2: and Geeks. And in the first episode someone said, I 2169 01:43:15,452 --> 01:43:18,333 Speaker 2: saw God. I saw God last night and he was 2170 01:43:18,333 --> 01:43:20,533 Speaker 2: playing drums for led Zeppelin. 2171 01:43:22,492 --> 01:43:24,572 Speaker 3: Great line, Cherry, how are you? 2172 01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:26,173 Speaker 17: I'm good? 2173 01:43:26,253 --> 01:43:28,532 Speaker 3: Thank you. 2174 01:43:30,133 --> 01:43:33,093 Speaker 6: I didn't hear you say it was bands and New 2175 01:43:33,173 --> 01:43:36,452 Speaker 6: Zealand it doesn't have to be. No, Well, I saw 2176 01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:40,813 Speaker 6: Elvis Priestley and Madison Wisconsin and you you say, wow, 2177 01:43:43,372 --> 01:43:46,732 Speaker 6: it was just before he died. I can't say that 2178 01:43:46,893 --> 01:43:51,933 Speaker 6: it was a wonderful conference as far as his performance, 2179 01:43:52,173 --> 01:43:55,133 Speaker 6: because he couldn't sustain you. 2180 01:43:55,093 --> 01:43:58,732 Speaker 34: Know, those long notes that his early songs were. He 2181 01:43:58,812 --> 01:44:03,173 Speaker 34: had a backup crew that took swinging, and he spent 2182 01:44:03,293 --> 01:44:07,692 Speaker 34: most of the time wiping his brow with silk starves 2183 01:44:07,732 --> 01:44:12,933 Speaker 34: and heaving them into the audience. It was, you know, 2184 01:44:13,013 --> 01:44:17,253 Speaker 34: I'm an elder stand from way back, and it was 2185 01:44:17,572 --> 01:44:21,293 Speaker 34: just wonderful being able to see him on stage. 2186 01:44:21,652 --> 01:44:23,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you weren't seeing him at the peak, 2187 01:44:23,532 --> 01:44:25,932 Speaker 2: just to be in the same area, the same room 2188 01:44:26,013 --> 01:44:29,612 Speaker 2: as Elvis Presley as phenomenal and something that you can 2189 01:44:29,732 --> 01:44:30,972 Speaker 2: hold on to forever. 2190 01:44:31,532 --> 01:44:31,852 Speaker 15: Yeah. 2191 01:44:31,893 --> 01:44:34,173 Speaker 3: Did you get one of those cars, Jerry? 2192 01:44:35,053 --> 01:44:39,133 Speaker 34: No, I was too far back. And it was quite 2193 01:44:39,133 --> 01:44:44,172 Speaker 34: a story getting there because the tickets were being sold 2194 01:44:45,452 --> 01:44:49,253 Speaker 34: on the black market for hundreds of dollars, and I thought, 2195 01:44:49,692 --> 01:44:52,812 Speaker 34: I was, you know, on a strict teeweed buncket. I 2196 01:44:52,853 --> 01:44:55,492 Speaker 34: thought I'll never be able to afford it. But I 2197 01:44:55,492 --> 01:44:59,052 Speaker 34: went out to the venue and picked on a sort 2198 01:44:59,093 --> 01:45:02,492 Speaker 34: of shy looking young guy who had one ticket and 2199 01:45:03,293 --> 01:45:08,732 Speaker 34: when I after the support act had started twenty it's 2200 01:45:08,772 --> 01:45:11,732 Speaker 34: into the support had and I managed to buy it 2201 01:45:11,853 --> 01:45:15,492 Speaker 34: to twenty dollars, which was least in the face price 2202 01:45:15,572 --> 01:45:15,812 Speaker 34: of it. 2203 01:45:16,013 --> 01:45:20,492 Speaker 2: So wow, I that is that is so amazing to 2204 01:45:20,532 --> 01:45:23,652 Speaker 2: have seen Elvis Presley. I mean, that is I can't 2205 01:45:23,692 --> 01:45:26,812 Speaker 2: even imagine how incredible that would be. Yeah, I mean 2206 01:45:27,333 --> 01:45:29,293 Speaker 2: one of the most famous people that's ever existed in 2207 01:45:29,293 --> 01:45:30,972 Speaker 2: one of the most genius artists of all time. 2208 01:45:31,013 --> 01:45:33,612 Speaker 3: That's incredible if you could see one band or artist, 2209 01:45:33,692 --> 01:45:34,692 Speaker 3: alive or dead. 2210 01:45:35,732 --> 01:45:38,892 Speaker 2: I am so gutted that I never saw David Bowie. 2211 01:45:39,053 --> 01:45:41,492 Speaker 2: Like me too, I'm I'm a huge fan and I 2212 01:45:41,532 --> 01:45:43,772 Speaker 2: don't know how it happened that I didn't see him 2213 01:45:43,812 --> 01:45:49,213 Speaker 2: when he played in Wellington. Just terrible circumstances and where 2214 01:45:49,253 --> 01:45:51,692 Speaker 2: I was and just couldn't do it. And the fact 2215 01:45:51,732 --> 01:45:54,772 Speaker 2: I'll never see David Bowie is just absolutely gutting for me. 2216 01:45:55,452 --> 01:45:57,532 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call. 2217 01:45:57,572 --> 01:45:59,333 Speaker 3: It is nineteen to four. 2218 01:46:01,293 --> 01:46:06,172 Speaker 1: Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred even 2219 01:46:06,333 --> 01:46:11,492 Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons. 2220 01:46:09,572 --> 01:46:12,813 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, beised concert you've ever been to, Matthew. 2221 01:46:14,452 --> 01:46:15,052 Speaker 17: Hi, there. 2222 01:46:16,372 --> 01:46:22,492 Speaker 15: So my one was in Wellington at the sky Stadium 2223 01:46:22,492 --> 01:46:24,812 Speaker 15: but it used to be called Westpac Stadium back then. 2224 01:46:24,933 --> 01:46:25,772 Speaker 9: The Cake Turn. 2225 01:46:26,532 --> 01:46:29,772 Speaker 35: And in Easter two thousand and eight, they had an 2226 01:46:29,772 --> 01:46:33,812 Speaker 35: event there, a two day rock event called Rock to Wellington. Yes, 2227 01:46:35,572 --> 01:46:37,772 Speaker 35: and basically it was over two nights. So you had 2228 01:46:38,213 --> 01:46:41,933 Speaker 35: Alice Cooper and Kiss on night one, and then on 2229 01:46:42,013 --> 01:46:47,052 Speaker 35: night two you had Poison White Snake and then Ozzie Osbourne. 2230 01:46:48,053 --> 01:46:50,132 Speaker 3: What a lineup? What a lineup? 2231 01:46:50,812 --> 01:46:53,532 Speaker 35: Yeah, so you had all of that come over here. 2232 01:46:53,572 --> 01:46:55,732 Speaker 35: And the cool thing is we're a workshop did a 2233 01:46:55,772 --> 01:46:58,772 Speaker 35: lot of the set and they so they had like 2234 01:46:58,812 --> 01:47:03,053 Speaker 35: a giant guitar and like skulls and demonic stuff, and 2235 01:47:03,053 --> 01:47:04,293 Speaker 35: then they actually built. 2236 01:47:04,013 --> 01:47:08,133 Speaker 15: A giant moving dragon on the opposite end of the 2237 01:47:08,732 --> 01:47:11,253 Speaker 15: to the stage that shot like green lasers out of 2238 01:47:11,253 --> 01:47:13,972 Speaker 15: its eyes and had smoke coming out of its out 2239 01:47:13,973 --> 01:47:17,812 Speaker 15: of its mouth. Wow, while they're all while they're all playing. 2240 01:47:18,053 --> 01:47:20,293 Speaker 15: So that was that was a honorable mention and I 2241 01:47:20,293 --> 01:47:23,852 Speaker 15: thought I should meet And that was if you type 2242 01:47:23,893 --> 01:47:26,293 Speaker 15: and rock to wellington'll you'll find it on there. 2243 01:47:26,452 --> 01:47:27,412 Speaker 3: And how did Ozzie go. 2244 01:47:28,973 --> 01:47:29,093 Speaker 9: That? 2245 01:47:29,213 --> 01:47:31,132 Speaker 10: Yeah, Ozzie still had a really good voice. 2246 01:47:31,173 --> 01:47:36,812 Speaker 35: Then yeah, yeah, this is he started to dip probably 2247 01:47:36,893 --> 01:47:39,053 Speaker 35: like you know, twenty thirteen on, you know, and he 2248 01:47:39,133 --> 01:47:40,293 Speaker 35: got back with Black Sabbath. 2249 01:47:41,253 --> 01:47:42,893 Speaker 15: But actually in two thousand and eight. He had a 2250 01:47:42,973 --> 01:47:46,612 Speaker 15: lot of energy and he was singing really well, and 2251 01:47:46,692 --> 01:47:48,492 Speaker 15: I was as vocals sounded good. 2252 01:47:48,853 --> 01:47:49,253 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2253 01:47:50,173 --> 01:47:52,692 Speaker 2: I saw Black Sabbath when they were touring New Zealand 2254 01:47:53,093 --> 01:47:55,053 Speaker 2: a few years ago. I'm not sure exactly sure when 2255 01:47:55,093 --> 01:47:57,452 Speaker 2: it was. It might have been fourteen, thirteen years ago, 2256 01:47:57,532 --> 01:47:59,692 Speaker 2: something like that. And I saw Ozzy Osborne in the 2257 01:47:59,692 --> 01:48:02,133 Speaker 2: interviews and he was basically asleep and not making any sense, 2258 01:48:02,173 --> 01:48:04,092 Speaker 2: and then when he came out on stage for the show, 2259 01:48:04,652 --> 01:48:06,652 Speaker 2: he was suspiciously energized. 2260 01:48:06,732 --> 01:48:08,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just goes into that mode. 2261 01:48:08,652 --> 01:48:11,692 Speaker 2: He was running around and he was in decent voice, 2262 01:48:11,893 --> 01:48:14,213 Speaker 2: and I was thinking, is the medication involved in this? 2263 01:48:15,133 --> 01:48:17,812 Speaker 2: But it was a great show, huge black seventh in me. 2264 01:48:18,053 --> 01:48:21,492 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Matthew, Hey you, Lisa, Hey, are 2265 01:48:21,532 --> 01:48:23,293 Speaker 3: you good? What was your favorite concert? 2266 01:48:25,253 --> 01:48:27,652 Speaker 36: I've been to a lot of really good Probably the 2267 01:48:27,692 --> 01:48:28,612 Speaker 36: best one was. 2268 01:48:28,612 --> 01:48:32,092 Speaker 2: Toby teased, Oh yep, the country artist. 2269 01:48:33,173 --> 01:48:33,412 Speaker 29: Yes. 2270 01:48:33,933 --> 01:48:34,173 Speaker 33: Yeah. 2271 01:48:34,253 --> 01:48:37,612 Speaker 36: I was in Nashville and I saw a poster saying 2272 01:48:37,812 --> 01:48:39,893 Speaker 36: he was doing a show which hadn't done one in 2273 01:48:40,013 --> 01:48:43,133 Speaker 36: Nashville for years apparently. So I raced down to the 2274 01:48:43,173 --> 01:48:46,293 Speaker 36: stadium to find out about the tickets. I said, how 2275 01:48:46,372 --> 01:48:48,173 Speaker 36: much of the ticket and they got oh, they started 2276 01:48:48,253 --> 01:48:51,772 Speaker 36: twenty five dollars. Okay, then how much is the most 2277 01:48:51,812 --> 01:48:54,893 Speaker 36: expensive ticket you've got? And she goes, oh, the expensive 2278 01:48:54,933 --> 01:48:58,572 Speaker 36: ones are ninety nine dollars. Yeah, I'll take that. 2279 01:49:01,053 --> 01:49:05,293 Speaker 37: And I was like at the stage, if he'd have 2280 01:49:05,333 --> 01:49:07,612 Speaker 37: stepped one foot off the stage, he'd have landed on 2281 01:49:07,692 --> 01:49:11,452 Speaker 37: me drink. The only place I could put it was 2282 01:49:11,532 --> 01:49:12,853 Speaker 37: on the stage. 2283 01:49:13,692 --> 01:49:14,452 Speaker 3: That's too good. 2284 01:49:14,572 --> 01:49:16,812 Speaker 16: And I just don't believe this was real. 2285 01:49:17,572 --> 01:49:20,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's specially significant when you're looking back to 2286 01:49:20,492 --> 01:49:23,053 Speaker 2: artists that have passed away, like Toby Keith. Isn't it 2287 01:49:23,053 --> 01:49:24,812 Speaker 2: that you saw it was still around? 2288 01:49:25,013 --> 01:49:25,933 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2289 01:49:25,973 --> 01:49:26,253 Speaker 5: I know. 2290 01:49:26,492 --> 01:49:29,492 Speaker 26: I was just like, thank goodness I saw the poster. 2291 01:49:30,053 --> 01:49:34,092 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lisa, great, great story. I mean, seeing anyone in Nashville, 2292 01:49:34,093 --> 01:49:36,373 Speaker 3: particularly country artists, would be an awesome experience. 2293 01:49:36,652 --> 01:49:39,132 Speaker 2: I just realized when I see the Cure in Wellington 2294 01:49:39,213 --> 01:49:40,812 Speaker 2: was the best concert I've ever seen. I just remember, 2295 01:49:40,973 --> 01:49:43,253 Speaker 2: speaking of artists, that part of what passed away. When 2296 01:49:43,293 --> 01:49:45,452 Speaker 2: I saw Prince Life that was also one of the 2297 01:49:45,492 --> 01:49:47,852 Speaker 2: greatest concerts I've seen. I might change mine. 2298 01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:51,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, very jealous. Chris, how are you mate? 2299 01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:54,732 Speaker 38: Had a couple on the Dunet and Rugby head in 2300 01:49:54,812 --> 01:49:58,173 Speaker 38: last year of high school ninety four because we venue 2301 01:49:58,213 --> 01:50:01,493 Speaker 38: down in Crawford Street called Chammis, which was pretty notorious. 2302 01:50:01,532 --> 01:50:03,572 Speaker 2: I remember it well. There's a lot of concerts there. 2303 01:50:04,492 --> 01:50:07,572 Speaker 38: It's a beautiful venue, sorts of sweat and lots of woodstock. 2304 01:50:08,692 --> 01:50:10,013 Speaker 19: Look at just to. 2305 01:50:10,412 --> 01:50:13,852 Speaker 38: Look back on ninety four we saw supergroof which obviously 2306 01:50:14,053 --> 01:50:16,932 Speaker 38: we're doing the charts and just a massive experience as 2307 01:50:16,933 --> 01:50:20,173 Speaker 38: a high school sixth former repeat. You know, we'd gone 2308 01:50:20,253 --> 01:50:22,732 Speaker 38: long and you know, hold the city, put the leather 2309 01:50:22,853 --> 01:50:25,212 Speaker 38: jacket on and then trying to look a sitting dynamic. 2310 01:50:25,293 --> 01:50:25,572 Speaker 7: It was. 2311 01:50:26,013 --> 01:50:28,372 Speaker 38: It was brilliant. And years later I'm down living in 2312 01:50:28,412 --> 01:50:30,612 Speaker 38: Blenham and they've done the wine and food up here 2313 01:50:30,652 --> 01:50:33,532 Speaker 38: two seventeen to eighteen, so so here the coming full 2314 01:50:33,612 --> 01:50:35,732 Speaker 38: circle and doing a bit of a gig next year 2315 01:50:35,812 --> 01:50:39,333 Speaker 38: is was wonderful. And the other one that sort of 2316 01:50:39,333 --> 01:50:41,372 Speaker 38: comes to mind is I've done some summer camps in 2317 01:50:41,412 --> 01:50:45,012 Speaker 38: the States. In the last summer was outside of Boston 2318 01:50:45,133 --> 01:50:47,732 Speaker 38: and it was a radio sort of concert gig there 2319 01:50:47,772 --> 01:50:51,652 Speaker 38: that included deaf leopards as a tie one diabetic mate 2320 01:50:51,652 --> 01:50:52,732 Speaker 38: to here, pour some sugar on me. 2321 01:50:52,812 --> 01:50:53,013 Speaker 10: It was. 2322 01:50:53,293 --> 01:50:53,852 Speaker 38: It was a good time. 2323 01:50:55,412 --> 01:50:57,812 Speaker 2: Hey, do you remember the support act from from that 2324 01:50:57,853 --> 01:50:59,333 Speaker 2: show at Sammy's Known ninety four? 2325 01:51:01,013 --> 01:51:03,132 Speaker 3: Nah, I'll be guessing I do because. 2326 01:51:02,893 --> 01:51:05,852 Speaker 2: It was my teenage band cand Eternity. 2327 01:51:05,893 --> 01:51:06,093 Speaker 20: I was. 2328 01:51:06,652 --> 01:51:11,572 Speaker 2: I supported them at that show at sam Far Understanding. Yeah, yeah, 2329 01:51:11,612 --> 01:51:13,972 Speaker 2: so it's great to know that we did. It's great 2330 01:51:14,013 --> 01:51:15,213 Speaker 2: to know that we made no impression. 2331 01:51:17,412 --> 01:51:18,572 Speaker 23: Did you get a plug in the ODT? 2332 01:51:19,572 --> 01:51:19,852 Speaker 3: We did? 2333 01:51:19,853 --> 01:51:22,213 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, yeah, we've got our picture in the ODT. 2334 01:51:22,692 --> 01:51:24,412 Speaker 2: Pretty excited about that and had a great night out 2335 01:51:24,412 --> 01:51:26,333 Speaker 2: with Super Grove. They were big stars back then. Yeah, 2336 01:51:26,333 --> 01:51:27,812 Speaker 2: I bet, and I had the tramp on stage. 2337 01:51:27,893 --> 01:51:29,452 Speaker 3: Was that your first big gigh? 2338 01:51:29,973 --> 01:51:34,932 Speaker 2: No, we supported Fugazi as well Sammy's as well. 2339 01:51:35,133 --> 01:51:37,253 Speaker 3: You've lived a life, man, Andy. How are you? 2340 01:51:38,692 --> 01:51:40,412 Speaker 28: Hey, guys, you're going good. 2341 01:51:40,572 --> 01:51:42,213 Speaker 3: What's your favorite concert that you've been to? 2342 01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:45,213 Speaker 28: Yeah, I think you mentioned. I think, well, there's two 2343 01:51:45,293 --> 01:51:47,933 Speaker 28: first three with Dovid Bowi in eighty three. That was 2344 01:51:47,973 --> 01:51:49,812 Speaker 28: the one of the best concerts I've ever met. And 2345 01:51:49,853 --> 01:51:52,452 Speaker 28: I think maybe maybe wrong on this, but I think 2346 01:51:52,452 --> 01:51:55,692 Speaker 28: it was the biggest biggest concert Walkland's ever had. I 2347 01:51:55,692 --> 01:51:58,173 Speaker 28: think it was seventy odd seventy five thousand people at 2348 01:51:58,213 --> 01:51:58,972 Speaker 28: Wichter Springs. 2349 01:51:58,973 --> 01:52:00,892 Speaker 9: That was just a ten wow. 2350 01:52:01,053 --> 01:52:04,812 Speaker 28: And the problem back in those days is no cell phones, right, 2351 01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:07,173 Speaker 28: So I actually I weaent for with about five mates. 2352 01:52:07,253 --> 01:52:09,772 Speaker 28: I lost them, so I didn't end up seeing him 2353 01:52:09,772 --> 01:52:11,173 Speaker 28: for rest for the rest of the concert. So I 2354 01:52:11,253 --> 01:52:13,732 Speaker 28: basically sat there on my own watching with David Dowie 2355 01:52:14,133 --> 01:52:15,612 Speaker 28: for about two or three hours where it was, and 2356 01:52:15,692 --> 01:52:17,772 Speaker 28: then found the back at the house later. So it 2357 01:52:17,893 --> 01:52:21,732 Speaker 28: was an amazing, amazing concert. But yeah, seventy five thousand 2358 01:52:21,732 --> 01:52:22,772 Speaker 28: people were just huge. 2359 01:52:24,692 --> 01:52:27,772 Speaker 2: Was that was that the Glass Spider Tour or was 2360 01:52:27,772 --> 01:52:30,652 Speaker 2: that the Glass was later? Yeah? 2361 01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:32,053 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was later than this was. 2362 01:52:32,652 --> 01:52:34,452 Speaker 28: I just I can't remember the name of the concert 2363 01:52:35,053 --> 01:52:37,173 Speaker 28: the tour, but Serious. 2364 01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:41,372 Speaker 2: Moonlight, Yeah right, yeah, Serious Moonlight. I'm so jealous. I 2365 01:52:41,732 --> 01:52:43,812 Speaker 2: would so love to have seen David Bwie life. I 2366 01:52:43,812 --> 01:52:45,532 Speaker 2: can't believe it never happened for me, and of course 2367 01:52:45,532 --> 01:52:46,293 Speaker 2: it will never happen now. 2368 01:52:46,333 --> 01:52:48,572 Speaker 28: Yeah, that was that was pretty good. 2369 01:52:49,013 --> 01:52:51,213 Speaker 10: What was on the Michael Jackson wasn't too bad? 2370 01:52:51,612 --> 01:52:54,812 Speaker 3: You've seen Michael Jixon as well? Far out Just sorry 2371 01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:56,812 Speaker 3: beg to Bowie. What was on the seatlist at that time? 2372 01:52:56,973 --> 01:52:59,733 Speaker 3: I mean what rebel rebel life on Mars. 2373 01:52:59,532 --> 01:53:03,333 Speaker 2: Well you just said you would have had the dance album. 2374 01:53:03,452 --> 01:53:05,732 Speaker 28: Yeah, the Legs Darts album was was key one, but 2375 01:53:05,772 --> 01:53:07,932 Speaker 28: he played all his originals because he hadn't been over 2376 01:53:07,973 --> 01:53:10,892 Speaker 28: since I think the early seventy. So it was like 2377 01:53:11,013 --> 01:53:14,372 Speaker 28: all these great bands, they always play their top songs anyway, Yeah, 2378 01:53:14,412 --> 01:53:17,492 Speaker 28: and then they play their their album they're promoting basically 2379 01:53:17,532 --> 01:53:19,772 Speaker 28: to it. So yeah, it was that was a pretty 2380 01:53:19,772 --> 01:53:20,692 Speaker 28: good concept back then. 2381 01:53:20,853 --> 01:53:23,133 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call. Andy. Jealous of that. 2382 01:53:23,333 --> 01:53:25,293 Speaker 2: I've got to say, so many texts coming through for 2383 01:53:25,333 --> 01:53:28,173 Speaker 2: the Eagles, and this text I would love to talk 2384 01:53:28,173 --> 01:53:29,812 Speaker 2: to them, but we don't have time. Best concert ever. 2385 01:53:29,933 --> 01:53:32,173 Speaker 2: This person saw the Beatles at the town hall in 2386 01:53:32,213 --> 01:53:33,372 Speaker 2: Auckland in the nineteen sixty four. 2387 01:53:33,412 --> 01:53:34,213 Speaker 3: Oh I get out. 2388 01:53:34,293 --> 01:53:36,293 Speaker 2: So I've had someone that's seen Elvis Presley and someone 2389 01:53:36,333 --> 01:53:39,052 Speaker 2: that's seen the Beatles contact us today. I mean, that's phenomenal. 2390 01:53:39,053 --> 01:53:42,452 Speaker 2: People that's seen led Zeppelin. Jealous of all those people. 2391 01:53:42,692 --> 01:53:45,973 Speaker 3: That's fantastic, great chat right coming up, we're going to 2392 01:53:46,053 --> 01:53:49,133 Speaker 3: wrap it all up. It is nine minutes to four. 2393 01:53:49,173 --> 01:53:51,333 Speaker 3: You're listening to Matt and Tyner. Very very good afternoon 2394 01:53:51,372 --> 01:53:51,532 Speaker 3: to you. 2395 01:53:53,372 --> 01:53:56,772 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 2396 01:53:57,093 --> 01:54:00,812 Speaker 1: everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You 2397 01:54:00,973 --> 01:54:03,612 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used Talks, said bs B. 2398 01:54:04,412 --> 01:54:06,892 Speaker 3: It is six to four. As we know, Coldplay their 2399 01:54:06,893 --> 01:54:10,452 Speaker 3: first concert at Eden Park tonight, fifty thousand tonight, another 2400 01:54:10,452 --> 01:54:13,173 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand on Friday and Saturday night. 2401 01:54:13,532 --> 01:54:15,692 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and me are going along together, aren't we, Tyler. 2402 01:54:15,772 --> 01:54:18,452 Speaker 2: So we're excited. So we have the official Matt and 2403 01:54:18,492 --> 01:54:23,213 Speaker 2: Tyler Zibi Afternoons Top five Coldplay Songs of all Time 2404 01:54:23,492 --> 01:54:29,773 Speaker 2: at number five Paradise twenty eleven, the Marsa Loto album 2405 01:54:30,253 --> 01:54:33,653 Speaker 2: Une Rat Tune, Hands in the Air and number four 2406 01:54:34,493 --> 01:54:37,052 Speaker 2: from the two thousand and three A Rush of Blood 2407 01:54:37,053 --> 01:54:37,733 Speaker 2: to the head. 2408 01:54:37,533 --> 01:54:42,293 Speaker 3: Clocks listens to that piano. 2409 01:54:42,053 --> 01:54:46,093 Speaker 2: Oh Yes, and from two thousand and five from the 2410 01:54:46,213 --> 01:54:54,373 Speaker 2: X and Y album Speed of Sound at number two 2411 01:54:54,613 --> 01:54:59,972 Speaker 2: from two thousand and five the same album Fix You Deers, 2412 01:55:00,453 --> 01:55:03,533 Speaker 2: this song we'll be sing along to this one, and 2413 01:55:03,653 --> 01:55:07,173 Speaker 2: our number one Coldplay song of all time. Have a 2414 01:55:07,213 --> 01:55:10,052 Speaker 2: great time tonight if you go along. Viva le Vida 2415 01:55:10,613 --> 01:55:11,852 Speaker 2: from two thousand and eight. 2416 01:55:11,973 --> 01:55:15,213 Speaker 3: Absolute true. I'm getting Goosey's. 2417 01:55:16,453 --> 01:55:18,932 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening on my way tomorrow speaking 2418 01:55:18,973 --> 01:55:21,613 Speaker 2: at the Air Force's Good Time. 2419 01:55:21,693 --> 01:55:23,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be a great event, so enjoy that. 2420 01:55:24,133 --> 01:55:25,892 Speaker 2: But it'll be a great show with Tyler and have 2421 01:55:26,013 --> 01:55:28,053 Speaker 2: a good time with You're going to cople or not. 2422 01:55:28,413 --> 01:55:34,453 Speaker 3: Give them my taste the keyway, sweep the streets. 2423 01:55:34,493 --> 01:55:58,173 Speaker 4: I too, I too, fel the enemy says, listens the 2424 01:55:58,333 --> 01:56:10,772 Speaker 4: crowd Lord the Old King's dad. London stood it and 2425 01:56:10,893 --> 01:56:12,053 Speaker 4: I stared my. 2426 01:56:13,613 --> 01:56:13,852 Speaker 7: Star. 2427 01:56:16,933 --> 01:56:19,493 Speaker 1: For more from Used Talk st B, listen live on 2428 01:56:19,653 --> 01:56:22,573 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2429 01:56:22,653 --> 01:56:25,213 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.