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Speaker 1: Murray Old's Ozzie corresponds to us now hems afternoon, Heather,

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Speaker 1: what's kay Rud actually said?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: Well, he did say Donald Trump's nuts and he's a

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Speaker 2: threat to the West quote unquote, he's probably a bit

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Speaker 2: storm now, so too, Elbow. There's a couple of tweets

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Speaker 2: that apparently have been deleted from the alban Easy account

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Speaker 2: that was according to his office. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Albo said, but certainly Kevin Rubb was out there. This

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Speaker 2: guy's nuts. Okay, keV, thanks for that. But in any event,

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Speaker 2: they now the Australian government, a bit like the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand government, is looking at the whole issue of tariff's

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Speaker 2: hoping against hope that he's going to wind back some

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Speaker 2: of that rhetoric because it's I mean, no one wins there.

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Speaker 2: You are you're going to do is make goods twenty

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Speaker 2: percent dearer for every American consumer and much a serious

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Speaker 2: hole and Kiwi and Australian export values. But in any event,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of concern here about the fifty to

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Speaker 2: sixty percent tariff on choese exports. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: the United States is the third biggest trading partner for Australia,

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Speaker 2: and Australia is going to have to get a special

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Speaker 2: deal on trade because if he whacks a sixty percent

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Speaker 2: tariff on Chinese imports to the US, China won't be

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Speaker 2: making as much and if that's the case, that China

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Speaker 2: might not need the stuff that Australia is selling to

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Speaker 2: China defense wise, well orcus the deal they hope will

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Speaker 2: still be kept by Donald Trump. But are we really

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Speaker 2: going to be able to afford to buy American nuclear subs?

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Speaker 2: Will the price go up? But American stubbed submarines begin

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Speaker 2: rotating around Australian ports. There's a whole bunch of youth,

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Speaker 2: brand new questions to be answered, and it's very early

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Speaker 2: days yet the next four years are going to be

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Speaker 2: very interesting.

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Speaker 1: On the bright side, Mauz, you guys are going to

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Speaker 1: get off this really easily because you've got a fantastic

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Speaker 1: ambassadors to Washington and Trump lisn't so you're well placed.

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Speaker 1: You're well placed. Listen, So tell me about the social

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Speaker 1: media banner's kicking in for the sixteen year old?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Yeah? Well, it's got more holes in Swiss

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Speaker 2: cheese at this point. I mean, yes, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be banning under sixteen from social media if the federal

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Speaker 2: government laws get through parliament, But then they're going to

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Speaker 2: be I mean, how they're going to be enforced. The

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Speaker 2: government's going to make social media companies have the responsible

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Speaker 2: for enforcing the ban. But just how that's going to work?

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Speaker 2: No one sure there's no penalty on children accessing the

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Speaker 2: net the parents as well if the laws are flouted,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, what's the point. And there are many

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Speaker 2: other questions as well. How's the band going to be imposed?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what technology is going to be used? Hasn't

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Speaker 2: been invented yet? And what about the penalties with the

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Speaker 2: companies If the kids are on there looking at all

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Speaker 2: sorts of stuff they shouldn't. There's a big meeting tomorrow

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Speaker 2: alban Easy convening a meeting of the federal and state

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Speaker 2: governments to thrash this out. But the experts are warning

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Speaker 2: the kids nowadays, and you know this as well as

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Speaker 2: I do. They're so tech savvy. Anything silly old suits

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Speaker 2: like Elbow and Dutton put up the kids are going

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Speaker 2: to work out in three minutes flat. Yea.

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Speaker 1: And this is the important thing, mass is you have

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Speaker 1: to ping the social media provider. Then you have to

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Speaker 1: make them the ones that are responsible for keeping the

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Speaker 1: sixteen year olds off. So they're really incentivized to do

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Speaker 1: it because the kids will try to get on.

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Speaker 2: Well, the kids will get on, that's the point. And

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Speaker 2: so how are you going to actually punish the social

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Speaker 2: media providers?

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Speaker 1: I don't care, Just punish them. He's got deep pockets.

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Speaker 2: Who cares well, Well, I guess that. I guess that's true.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Don't you come here to this show making an argument

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Speaker 1: for what Mark Zuckerberg woe is me?

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Speaker 2: Please? Was last trillion dollars too? Right?

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Speaker 1: Hey listen, So I see you guys are actually recording

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Speaker 1: the number of Keywis that are coming into Australia.

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Speaker 2: Well right now, at the end of September, there were

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and twenty five thousand New Zealanders over here,

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Speaker 2: so that's a lot. That's three quarters of a million people.

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Speaker 2: And on the back of the COVID pandemic, of course,

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Speaker 2: the borders now open again and migration numbers, despite the

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Speaker 2: best eforts of the government, greation numbers are up. There

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Speaker 2: were five hundred and sixty one thousand net migrants to

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Speaker 2: Australia after COVID and two point eight million temporary visa

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Speaker 2: holders at the end of the last quarter student visas well,

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Speaker 2: nearly seven hundred thousand of those graduate visas. You're throwing

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Speaker 2: another two hundred and fifty. So all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: you've got a million student and graduate visas here as well.

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Speaker 2: And as I say, three quarters of a million Kiwis.

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Speaker 2: The kiwis have got a special relationship. Of course, the

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Speaker 2: government is trying to wind back student numbers, but the

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Speaker 2: universities are squealing like stuck pigs because of course all

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Speaker 2: the foreign students pay three and four times as much

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Speaker 2: for their tuition as Australian kids, and so the university

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Speaker 2: had like aightms with these kids. They just to punch

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Speaker 2: them at the door on the way in and punch

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Speaker 2: them out when they finish their degrees.

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Speaker 1: Mozz, thank you very much, appreciate it. Look at yourself.

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