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Speaker 1: It's no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. Heather Duplicy

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Speaker 1: Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate

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Speaker 1: doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three News togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Been morning and welcome coming up today? How good will

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Speaker 2: that RMA reveal be this afternoon? Will get you the details?

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Speaker 2: How worried should we be about the seven Chinese warships

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Speaker 2: shadowing our naval vessel or are we actually the ones

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Speaker 2: causing trouble just by being there? Good news for value

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Speaker 2: add and will good news for the hurricanes at least

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Speaker 2: at least as far as cash goes. And Jimmy Barnes

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Speaker 2: is in for a chat.

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Speaker 3: After a Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Right, if you've been following this debate about whether our

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Speaker 2: summer holidays in New Zealand are too long, you'll have

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Speaker 2: noticed that Toss Brumley, who's the guy who kicked off

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Speaker 2: the debate with his column, has said nothing publicly since

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Speaker 2: his column. Now I'm told the reason for that is

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Speaker 2: because of the heat that he's getting, and the same

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Speaker 2: thing happened with an earlier LinkedIn post that he did

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Speaker 2: on the same subject. He copped heat, which I think

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Speaker 2: is quite bizarre, given that this is not life or death.

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Speaker 2: This is not about politics, it's not the treaty, it's

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Speaker 2: not COVID. It's just to chat about summer holidays. But

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Speaker 2: apparently some of us, and perhaps lots of us, feel

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Speaker 2: really strongly that we deserve those summer holidays enough at

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Speaker 2: least to bludgeon him with our opinion. Now, Simon Bridges

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Speaker 2: backs him on this. He reckons the view is that

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Speaker 2: we're on holiday until March, and international business people see

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Speaker 2: us as lifestylers who are more interested in work life

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Speaker 2: balance than in growing the economy. The Prime Minister, Christopher

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Speaker 2: Luxon kind of falls on his side too. He's going

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Speaker 2: to work through to Christmas. Even then he's going to

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Speaker 2: take a couple of weeks, get back on the fourth

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Speaker 2: or the fifth of January. But I'm going to take

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Speaker 2: the opposite view on this. If you want that summer break,

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Speaker 2: if you can take that summer break, you should take it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike Hoskins copping it a wee bit. I

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Speaker 2: see in some of the news coverage. Mike deserves every

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Speaker 2: single day of the seven weeks that he's taking. I

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Speaker 2: bet you there was a day when he worked every

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Speaker 2: hour that God gave him. But he doesn't have to anymore.

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Speaker 2: He is now the best in the business. He's made

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Speaker 2: his money, he's earned the right to take the break

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Speaker 2: if he wants to take the break. And I think

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Speaker 2: the same is true for every SMEO owner out there.

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Speaker 2: If you need the money, if you're hustling for for

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Speaker 2: business work, open your shop, get on the tools. But

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Speaker 2: if you don't need the money, if you've got enough

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Speaker 2: of it, take your summer. I mean, you count how

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Speaker 2: many summers you have on this planet. It's actually not

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Speaker 2: a lot at all. So work while you're young, bust

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Speaker 2: your butt to make your way. But once you have it,

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Speaker 2: enjoy what you've earned.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Zelenski is in Downing Street meeting with Starmer and Macron

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Speaker 2: and Mertz to talk peace.

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Speaker 4: Is scoring enough in our means? Whereas Sasid of issues

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Speaker 4: regarding to be false what we have.

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Speaker 2: Between us and a ship now, as you would expect

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Speaker 2: the saying all of the right things, well.

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Speaker 5: You start here to support you if the conflict, and

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Speaker 5: support you in the negotiations.

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Speaker 6: I'm make sure this is adjusted lasting supplement.

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Speaker 2: Now the UK is looking to use AI to develop

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Speaker 2: autonomous vessels to protect the undersea cables and the pipelines

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Speaker 2: from Russia.

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Speaker 4: Puts you all.

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Speaker 7: Virtually all data and virtually all our energy flows either above.

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Speaker 4: Or under the sea.

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Speaker 2: To Football News, Joey Batton, the footballer has been given

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Speaker 2: a six month suspended sentence for sending grossly offensive electronic

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Speaker 2: communication with the intent of causing distress or anxiety.

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Speaker 8: All of these posts were obviously grossly offensive and it's

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Speaker 8: plain that each of your victims experienced very substantial distress

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Speaker 8: and anxiety as a direct consequence of your actions.

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Speaker 2: It's kicked off again with Thailand and Cambodia. Thailand has

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Speaker 2: launched air strikes on Cambodia on the border.

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Speaker 7: The Cambodian side open fire in many additional areas. At dawn,

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Speaker 7: Thailand has retaliated according to our response gesture, focusing on

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Speaker 7: the military targets that launched the attacks on Thailand.

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Speaker 2: No surprise that hasn't gone down well with Cambodia.

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Speaker 9: But Cambodia calls on the international community to strongly condemn

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Speaker 9: the violation of the Joint Declaration of the Cambodia Thailand

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Speaker 9: Peace Agreement. And Thailand's repeated illegal actions.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Kylie Minova is heading towards the UK Christmas

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Speaker 2: number one with her new song Xmas.

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Speaker 4: It could be Christmas number one.

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Speaker 10: I don't they're saying, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: What would that mean?

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Speaker 11: It would be It would be amazing, absolutely yeah, but

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Speaker 11: turn out us to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Really tell you what that would mean. I mean a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. Have you seen how much Mariah Carey

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Speaker 2: makes off her one? And that is news of the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety seconds. Now this morning, I think maybe

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Speaker 2: last couple of hours or so, news has broken that

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Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Netflix deal has just got a lot more

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Speaker 2: interesting because Paramount has now made a hostile takeover bit

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Speaker 2: to cut out Netflix. Now you remember Paramount was the

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Speaker 2: then that got declined, and then the Netflix came in,

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Speaker 2: and now the Paramount's going for it again. Made a

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Speaker 2: direct offer as shareholders of thirty dollars per year for

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Speaker 2: the entire company and that includes the TV networks. Things

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Speaker 2: said its proposal was a superior alternative, delivers more cash

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Speaker 2: up front to shareholders, great a prospect of approval by regulators,

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Speaker 2: as some have predicted, Trump might prefer this one. He's

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Speaker 2: already flagged there could be a problem with Netflix's purchase,

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Speaker 2: just given how enormous that company would be. Paramount reckons

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Speaker 2: It's deal values the company at about one hundred and eight

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Speaker 2: billion US dollars, but Netflix is only at about eighty

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Speaker 2: three billion, So true competition on the way that twelve

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Speaker 2: past six.

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Speaker 2: Here the New Zealand heads off over Christmas in a

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Speaker 2: way that no other country does. As a person who

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Speaker 2: callaher sure in partners to us. Morning Andrew, Very good morning,

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Speaker 2: Heather Right. What do you make of the am Z

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Speaker 2: card spending for November?

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Speaker 4: I love this. This is one of my favorite pieces

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Speaker 4: of data. Headed this AMZ card spending. It's a pot

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Speaker 4: report this on a three month seasonally adjusted average, but

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Speaker 4: spending up three point nine percent on this time last year,

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Speaker 4: which is okay. But the key takeaway if you're going

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Speaker 4: if you look at it through a cyclical lens, the

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Speaker 4: durable spending is up eight percent. Now that tells you

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Speaker 4: something is happening. All categories, almost all categories are showing

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Speaker 4: It has stabilized, but times have been particularly tough for

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Speaker 4: apparel retailers. They do aim zid, doing what they call

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Speaker 4: it before with Mike Heather, what the heck is going

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Speaker 4: on here? It's still storming high. We're absolutely loving spending

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Speaker 4: be in Heather. Second hand stores still feature up ten

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Speaker 4: twenty percent. Still a strong lift in live theater and

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Speaker 4: the year. It's good news. Farmer confidence is still elevated,

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Speaker 4: But fifty percent of New Zealand farmers are expecting the

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Speaker 4: pleased to see how the investments intentions are looking. Good.

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Speaker 4: Investment intent across all farmers now as high as it's

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Speaker 4: historically still very high. Happy days. But we'd all like

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Speaker 4: not go into a slump, wouldn't we.

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Speaker 2: Too, right, I can give me the numbers, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much, Andrew, Andrew callaher Sean Partners.

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Speaker 2: I actually have a theory, you know how, Andrew was

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Speaker 2: And he's loving it. Over there are people like him.

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Speaker 2: Can also rehome dogs and cats that frowned upon with

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Speaker 2: good news for wool and of course we're using taxpayer

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Speaker 2: keep you company rather. Wool Source has signed its first

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Speaker 2: deal's going to supply eight tons to a Japanese personal

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Speaker 2: Organization of News London with us Morning, Andrew, will heather

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Speaker 2: here you a I'm well, thanks mate. What's an innovative

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Speaker 15: A wall particle products?

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Speaker 5: Look, we were charged with the sect, I said, for

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Speaker 5: got some really good traditional products, but can you go

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Speaker 5: seven year research program deconstructing strong wall down to that

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Speaker 5: Particles are a precursor to their absolute holy grails, which

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Speaker 2: So are these guys in Japan sticking it in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, these are going into personal cares. We've done a

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Speaker 2: Do you know, Andrew, what this deal is worth with

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Speaker 5: This is the start, I mean, this is the reality

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Speaker 15: That's why we're doing this work.

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Speaker 5: You know, we have a lot of talk around land

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Speaker 2: Andrew Morrison's Chair of All Research Organization of New Zealand. Now,

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 11: arrived from the US what was the late last week

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Speaker 11: came as a real shock. I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 11: really difficult to overestimate quite what a shock this has been.

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Speaker 4: This is to.

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Speaker 11: Suddenly have this significant reversal of US foreign policy towards

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Speaker 11: what were once it's European allies. And had been since

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Speaker 11: nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult.

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Speaker 11: I remember back in was a February when Vice President

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Speaker 11: Advance came to Munich and at a conference there he

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Speaker 11: criticized Europe, said that it was suppressing political opponents. There

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Speaker 11: was censorship in the press. A lot of people said, well,

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Speaker 11: that's just term, it's not really you know, doesn't speak

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Speaker 11: for the whole of the US administration.

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Speaker 16: Well, this new.

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Speaker 11: Policy document, which which really does outline foreign policy thinking

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Speaker 11: and the Americans' priorities, this is confirmed that it's been

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Speaker 11: a real shake for Europe to read this. They've always

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Speaker 11: been thinking hither that they could somehow get Trump to

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Speaker 11: come back on side, appeal to him that it's better

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Speaker 11: to have Europe as an ally to have it as

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Speaker 11: a trading partner. But this that it became so clear

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Speaker 11: when Europe was accused of neglect of Western values, of

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Speaker 11: a loss of natural identity, that it was facing economic stagnation.

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Speaker 11: This is really woken people up. And in fact, I

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Speaker 11: think perhaps one of the biggest voices that we've heard

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Speaker 11: what's change has come from the Italian Prime Minister. She

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Speaker 11: had been championed sort of the Trump whisperer or she

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Speaker 11: has now said that Europe must develop what she called

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Speaker 11: an autonomous security defense. So it is to stand up

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Speaker 11: and achieve independence from the US.

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Speaker 2: Well as well should I I would imagine trouble with

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is now too many people want to come

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Speaker 2: and look at the thing.

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Speaker 11: I know, you know, a year ago exactly it opened.

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Speaker 11: Since it opened, it's had eleven million visitors. Now that's

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Speaker 11: way more than they got at the Eiffel Tower or

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Speaker 11: at the Louver. If you think back to before that

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Speaker 11: fire exactly five years ago, there were about eight to

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Speaker 11: nine million people coming through a year. So they've had

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Speaker 11: this huge number of people come in, you know, and

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Speaker 11: even the bits that you pay for. So there's two

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Speaker 11: towers at the front. They were just reopened in September.

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Speaker 11: They've already seen seventy five thousand visitors, so you're huge

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Speaker 11: numbers of people going in. A lot of criticism that

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Speaker 11: they are not managing the crowds. When you go in,

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Speaker 11: it really is crowded. They slow down the flow of

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Speaker 11: visitors during mass, but it's still not enough. But if

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Speaker 11: you're thinking of racing over heather, if you might want

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Speaker 11: to wait a bit, not just because of the crowds,

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Speaker 11: but there's still a lot of work to be done.

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Speaker 11: It's not really going to be finished until about twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty eight. But if you want to dip into your pocket,

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Speaker 11: Notre Dame still needs about two hundred and eighty million

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Speaker 11: New Zealand dollars to get the work finished.

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Speaker 2: She she is expensive, isn't she?

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Speaker 16: Now?

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Speaker 2: How are the French going to handle not being able

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Speaker 2: to have a fag while while they have an a ski?

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Speaker 11: And this caught everyone by surprise really.

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Speaker 2: It was part of a law which.

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Speaker 11: Was introduced back in May this year which extended the

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Speaker 11: ban on smoking to include outdoor spaces and that was beaches, parks,

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Speaker 11: who outside schools and bus stops and no one really

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Speaker 11: took much notice of. It also included ski slopes and

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Speaker 11: from now on it's going to be a ban on

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Speaker 11: smoking on ski lifts, when you're queuing for a ski

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Speaker 11: lift and when you're on piece. So it's an extension

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Speaker 11: really of that band which France brought them back in

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Speaker 11: two thousand and seven, which is banned on smoking in

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Speaker 11: restaurants and in bars. It's going to be tough, you

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Speaker 11: know for some people who are up there on the

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Speaker 11: slopes and just want to stand at the top and

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Speaker 11: as you say, have a fag. But the publicity they're

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Speaker 11: putting out about it, Heather is let the view take

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Speaker 11: your breath away as it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that, hey, thanks very much, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: look after yourself. Catherine Field, France correspondent. Yeah, listen, I

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Speaker 2: feel like I should mention this only because I speak

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Speaker 2: to Helen Clark from time to time. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not like, I don't consider myself to be a friend

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Speaker 2: of Helen Clarks or anything like that, but very occasionally

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Speaker 2: there's something that she wants to get into the news

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Speaker 2: or you know, an editorial she wants to send through

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Speaker 2: to the Herald or whatever or you know newstalk ZB

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Speaker 2: and I'll be the happy recipient of the things she's

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Speaker 2: got to say. And also she shares a birthday with

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Speaker 2: my son, so you know, every once a year she

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Speaker 2: will get a picture she doesn't actually necessarily want of

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Speaker 2: a three year old four year old next year anyway.

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Speaker 2: So I talked to her from time to time, and

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Speaker 2: when I do have a chat to I always ask

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Speaker 2: after her father. So it was with very sad heart

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Speaker 2: that I heard yesterday that her father had died at

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Speaker 2: the weekend one hundred and three is an absolutely brilliant innings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, lord, you know, yeah, I mean it's a

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Speaker 2: toss up whether you actually want to live that long,

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest about it. But if you had the choice,

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Speaker 2: you'd want to at least like if you could, you'd

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Speaker 2: want the choice, wouldn't you? Anyway? I know that, you know,

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Speaker 2: having been Prime minister. Not everybody's going to be a

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Speaker 2: fan of Helen. Some people are going to be fans

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Speaker 2: some people and I'm personally I'm a fan of what

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Speaker 2: Helen did, some of the stuff that she did. But

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Speaker 2: what I will say is you cannot dispute the fact

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Speaker 2: that she was a fantastic daughter. And may we all

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Speaker 2: have children like Helen Clark, because every time I caught

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Speaker 2: up with her, it would be I'm just with dad

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Speaker 2: at the moment, I'm off to why he beach to

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Speaker 2: cook dad some food. I'm helping dad out, And that

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Speaker 2: is really at the end of the day, is that

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Speaker 2: not the most important stuff is family? So thoughts to

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Speaker 2: Helen Clark and her family at the moment. Nine Away

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Speaker 2: from seven Heather Duplicy.

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Speaker 1: Ellen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, retirement, communities,

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Speaker 1: news dogs, head.

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Speaker 2: Be We've got trapped by this thing. Hey, Jimmy Barnes

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Speaker 2: is going to be with us after eight o'clock. That

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Speaker 2: man is do you know what he's doing. He caught

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Speaker 2: the news because it's been out for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But he's going to redo the iconic album for the

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Speaker 2: working class man, play the whole thing from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: So we have a chat him about that. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: because you think about how long ago he did that.

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Speaker 2: It takes certain something to have a voice that still

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Speaker 2: manages to hit all those notes. But he's got it

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Speaker 2: six away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right for everyone complaining right now about the price of beef,

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Speaker 2: and you are right to complain. Some of your favorite

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Speaker 2: snacks have officially topped steak on the list of products

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Speaker 2: to hit your wallets the hardest. Most of this has

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Speaker 2: got to do with the price of coco, which is

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Speaker 2: just out the gate. The shortage has led to record

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Speaker 2: price hikes. The UK Office of National Statistics says chocolate

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Speaker 2: has on average gone up by fifteen percent this year.

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Speaker 2: Now you look at that numbering fifteen percent? Who cares? Well,

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Speaker 2: what about this number? A ton of coco usually trades

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Speaker 2: at between about five thousand and maybe, let's say eight

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Speaker 2: and a half thousand New Zealand dollars. It's currently twenty

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Speaker 2: two thousand New Zealand dollars for a ton. You only

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Speaker 2: have to look at a block of Wittikers being eight

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Speaker 2: dollars fifty in countdown to see the hat maltesers of

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Speaker 2: what we're looking at today. On average, a packet of

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Speaker 2: white malteses costs you nine dollars twenty four. That puts

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Speaker 2: it out of price per kilo of seventy three dollars

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Speaker 2: thirty one sirloin steak seventy two dollars thirty six on average,

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Speaker 2: so more expensive than the steak. Starting to affect the

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Speaker 2: flavor of some of your favorites as well. Nesleigh has

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Speaker 2: been forced to reduce the amount of cocoa and their kitcats,

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Speaker 2: so if you're tasting more waifer than cocoa, you're not

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Speaker 2: imagining it. And Rod told the show a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago that the Makevity's biscuits had to rebrand from

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Speaker 2: being chocolate biscuits to chocolate flavored biscuits, because frankly, if

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Speaker 2: you don't have enough cocoa, you're just not chocolate anymore,

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Speaker 2: are you. So there you go. Now you're going to

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Speaker 2: get it out. I'm I've ruined it for you, haven't

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Speaker 2: I RMA. Now this is the big day for the RMA.

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Speaker 2: I said earlier when I was talking to Andrew. Probably

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Speaker 2: you know if you're feeling like, oh, RMA, yeah, fair enough,

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Speaker 2: because we've had a couple of false start right, we

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Speaker 2: had David Parker's thing, then I got unwound. But this

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Speaker 2: is the thing. If you're expecting the coalition government to

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Speaker 2: be in power after the next election, which you should

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Speaker 2: be because they will be most likely, then this is

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Speaker 2: the one that's actually gonna happen. So the aim is

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Speaker 2: to simplify it massively, will get the details on. It's

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Speaker 2: all got to do with zones and plans or run

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Speaker 2: you through those numbers. Been a bit of drama about

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Speaker 2: this naval vessel. It's been shadowed by the Chinese warships.

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Speaker 2: Just a question for you, are we the ones doing

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Speaker 2: the provoking if we're the ones floating through the old

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Speaker 2: Taiwan straight Because if they come down here with their vessels,

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Speaker 2: we get pre worked up about it. So maybe that

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Speaker 2: you can't get worked up about New Zealand. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if we might be the ones that

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Speaker 2: blame here. So we'll have a chat to Robert Patman

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Speaker 2: about that. Turns out I was happy to find out

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Speaker 2: if one drivers for all of their money and good

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Speaker 2: looks and you know, fame party like everyone else. What

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Speaker 2: did they sing along to Tlando Norris's celebration party after

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Speaker 2: he won the F one championship, Caroline, just like we

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Speaker 2: all do.

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Speaker 1: News is Next, Tough on power, sharp on insight, Heather Duper,

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Speaker 1: see Allen on the mic, asking breakfast. Were the defender,

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Speaker 1: embrace the impossible, news togs, there'd be.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. We're going to get the first

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Speaker 2: details of the IRMA overhaul this afternoon around about one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: The aim is to simplify the system, massively cutting the

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Speaker 2: number of consents by up to half. Regional councils have

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Speaker 2: of course, already been given the choppers part of this reform.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Alan Pollard is the CEO of the Civil Contractors n

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Speaker 2: Z and with us Morning Allen. Now, the word is

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Speaker 2: that we have about twelve hundred different zones in the

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Speaker 2: country and they're going to be cut down to fewer

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Speaker 2: than twenty. Is that right.

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Speaker 17: I don't know the final detail, but whatever we can

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Speaker 17: do to streamline the process will be welcome for our industry.

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Speaker 2: How much of a heads up have you been given?

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Speaker 3: A not very little.

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Speaker 17: What we do know is that, yeah, the ministers determined

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Speaker 17: to simplify the ACT. If I can add some context

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Speaker 17: to it, you know, for the last two years, our

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Speaker 17: industry has faced some pretty tough time for the low

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Speaker 17: project volumes, and yet there's two hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 17: billion dollars sitting on a project pipeline, and there's are

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Speaker 17: projects how communities need how Our aim is that these

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Speaker 17: projects need to come to market as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 17: and we need to remove the barriers to stopping that happening.

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Speaker 17: And the RIMA is one of the major barriers that

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Speaker 17: we face.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you were to list the barriers and

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Speaker 2: all the things that go into making a project really

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Speaker 2: hard to get off the ground, where would this sit.

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Speaker 17: It's just right up at the top. The ACT is

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Speaker 17: incredibly complicated, it's vague, it's open to interpretation that creates

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Speaker 17: significant cost to the projects and frankly, it does little

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Speaker 17: to protect the environment or to enable efficient development.

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Speaker 2: What is it about the Act that is causing the trouble?

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Speaker 2: Is it the time that it takes to get the consent?

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Speaker 2: Is the possibility that there's a decline? What is it?

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Speaker 17: I think it's all of those things, because it's very complicated,

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Speaker 17: but also it's open to interpretation that's quite vague. So

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Speaker 17: you could have the Act interpret in one way in

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Speaker 17: one region and completely different than another.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can have the Act interpreted differently in the

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Speaker 2: same region, can't you. I mean I've run into that

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Speaker 2: where you have two people sitting next to each other

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Speaker 2: totally different ideas.

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Speaker 17: What you certainly can you have to say lawyers and

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Speaker 17: planners could spend their whole lives trying to interpret the Act.

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Speaker 2: So would you say, Alan that one of the most

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Speaker 2: important things in what we see today is actually some

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Speaker 2: certainty and very clear guidelines, not even guidelines, just very

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Speaker 2: clear as to what this is saying, rather than leaving

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Speaker 2: it open to people making up their own minds.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, there needs to be clarity and certainty. If I

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Speaker 17: could give you an example, you know, part of our

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Speaker 17: sustainable construction practices. We prefer to reuse construction and demolition

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Speaker 17: ways from one site on another site. But if there's

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Speaker 17: the minutest part of contaminant in the soil and that's

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Speaker 17: defined by the local council officers, we have to send

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Speaker 17: that to landfall. It's costing two point four billion dollars

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Speaker 17: additional costs a year to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just crazy, Allen, thanks very much, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: This Alan pol Out and besta like at one o'clock

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Speaker 2: CEO of Civil Contractors in Z ten past seven. Ever,

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Speaker 2: so New Zealand Defense Force has confirmed one of its

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Speaker 2: navy ships in East Asia was recently shadowed by seven

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Speaker 2: Chinese warships. It was last month when the n Z

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Speaker 2: s Alti at All was conducting surveillance operations. This was

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Speaker 2: related to North Korea's nuclear program. Robert Patman is an

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Speaker 2: international relations expert and with US morning.

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Speaker 18: Robert, Good morning, Hell.

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Speaker 2: How serious do you think this is?

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Speaker 18: I wouldn't say it's very serious, but I think the

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Speaker 18: fact that the Z s Auta was shadowed by seven

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Speaker 18: New Zealand warships at different times indicates that the Chinese

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Speaker 18: are not relenting in their claim that the Taiwan Strait

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Speaker 18: is not an international warway but waterway. Actually they claim

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Speaker 18: sovereignty over it, So there's no there's no sign there

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Speaker 18: backing down, And I don't think that's really surprising given

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Speaker 18: the current international situation.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Is it possible that actually US

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Speaker 2: being there at all is a provocation to them? I mean,

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Speaker 2: we feel pretty aggrieved when they come all the way

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Speaker 2: down here.

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, I suppose they could interpret it this way.

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Speaker 18: But I think what we have to take into account

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Speaker 18: is that China has as its economic and military capabilities

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Speaker 18: grown over the years. It's the second superpower of the

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Speaker 18: United States. What used to be acceptable to China is

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Speaker 18: no longer acceptable. He's had a long standing claim over Taiwan,

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Speaker 18: and I think this sort of growing consciousness of military

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Speaker 18: might means that China is less tolerant, less accepting of

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Speaker 18: but it sees as infringements on its sovereign claim. But

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Speaker 18: to be fair, you know, most countries in the world

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Speaker 18: do see the Taiwan Straight as an international waterway, and

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Speaker 18: we also as a country have very good relations with Taiwan.

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Speaker 18: We don't have diplomatic relations with them, but we certainly

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Speaker 18: have a free trade agreement with Taiwan and it host

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Speaker 18: people to people relations, so I think news. I mean,

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Speaker 18: let's be quite clear, why was New Zealand there going

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Speaker 18: through the Taiwan Straight Because it was on a mission

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Speaker 18: to enforce UN sanctions against North Korea, so it wasn't

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Speaker 18: aimed at China. The ship sailed from the South China

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Speaker 18: Sea to the North Asian Region via the Taiwan Straight

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Speaker 18: and we now learned that actually occurred over a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Robert, thanks very much runningus. We appreciate it. As Robert

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Speaker 2: Patman international relations expert. Actually, there's an interesting survey out

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Speaker 2: regarding our views of China and stuff. I'll run you

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Speaker 2: through that when I get a chance.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duper Clerk, there's a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Is two percent in the preferred prime minister polling a

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Speaker 2: good thing? Now? I'm asking you this because Chris Bishop

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Speaker 2: has popped up. So we had the one News Varian

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Speaker 2: poll last night. This was the first poll since word

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Speaker 2: got out there. Chris Bishop of trying to get the

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Speaker 2: numbers role Chris Luckxon obviously failed. So the preferred prime

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Speaker 2: minister ranking goes like this. Luxon's on the top of

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Speaker 2: twenty three, then Hipkins on twenty one, Winston on nine,

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Speaker 2: David Seymour on five, Chris Bishop on two, and Chloe

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Speaker 2: Chloe There's just no chance, is there anyway? Chloe on one? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop popping up on number two is you know,

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Speaker 2: on two percent, not number two, but two percent makes it.

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Speaker 2: This is significant because this makes him the first National

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Speaker 2: Party MP apart from the Prime Minister, to register in

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Speaker 2: the preferred prime Minister poll since the election in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. So I guess why I'm asking is because

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Speaker 2: he should take some heart, like he could look at

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Speaker 2: that and go, hey, I'm in there, I'm in the

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Speaker 2: I'm the only one who's in there. But then on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, it is two percent. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a long shot to twenty three percent, sitting just one

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Speaker 2: above Chloe and Chloe's and it never got a chance, right,

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Speaker 2: So however you look at it, I suppose fourteen past

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Speaker 2: seven the.

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Speaker 2: At b Morning, Heather, the major elephant in the room

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the rama is the fingers and

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Speaker 2: the pie that the e we have and you will

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Speaker 2: shy away from it our sun did a subdivision of

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Speaker 2: matamatter had to pay the local ee fifteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: just to come and walk over it, and so called

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Speaker 2: bless it. Cheers Chris Well. Actually, Chris good point. You

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Speaker 2: raise and maybe some people will have a look at

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Speaker 2: it when it's unveiled today and just see what's going

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Speaker 2: on in there and if we have a repeat of

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Speaker 2: the same stuff. So stand by one o'clock seventeen past seven.

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Speaker 2: Now do you remember the well being fund that the

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Speaker 2: Ardurn Hipkins government gave Principles where they have six thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars to spend on sometimes I don't know, training courses

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Speaker 2: at the Hilton and Fiji. Turns out that's still causing

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Speaker 2: some trouble according to the Audited gen Rules Office. Jane

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Speaker 2: Rogers is the secret manager for Schools at the office.

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Speaker 2: Hi Jane, Hi, So what's going on with the spending.

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Speaker 19: We just this year our auditors did identify more concerns

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Speaker 19: about sensitive expenditure than in the normal years, and most

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Speaker 19: of those concerns did relate to how schools spent the

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Speaker 19: funding for the professional coaching and well being provided to Principles.

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Speaker 19: In twenty twenty three and twenty four. About third of

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Speaker 19: those concerns related to travel, including schools paying for personal

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Speaker 19: travel for staff and sometimes companions. Some of that was

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Speaker 19: travel that was actually incorporated into a business trip. And

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Speaker 19: one of the expectations for spending public money is that

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Speaker 19: it has a just a viable business purpose.

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Speaker 18: So we wouldn't.

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Speaker 19: Normally expect a school or any public organization to pay

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Speaker 19: for personal travel of their staff.

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Speaker 2: So is this, Jane, is the school spending that is

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Speaker 2: on top of that six thousand dollar fund or is

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Speaker 2: it within the six thousand dollar fund?

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Speaker 19: Mainly it's it is the six thousand dollars, but Principles

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Speaker 19: were allowed to use additional funding for professional development, so

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Speaker 19: it didn't they didn't have to just spend the six

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Speaker 19: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right, So are you telling me that the six thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars that was sold to us as being for development

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Speaker 2: was actually being spent on personal stuff?

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Speaker 19: I mean in some cases yes, are we talking about

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Speaker 19: Well we well, we we identified I think, which is

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Speaker 19: in our report one hundred and seventy eight where we

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Speaker 19: actually drew attention to it in the in the management

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Speaker 19: letter or the audit report of the school. So that's

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Speaker 19: where we had some concern over the spending. Obviously, some

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Speaker 19: of that was relatively small amounts, so it could be

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Speaker 19: GM memberships that sort of thing. Quite small amounts are

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Speaker 19: the ones that we actually referred to our audit reports

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Speaker 19: were those which were more significant, and a lot of

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Speaker 19: those were around overseas travels a lot to it.

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Speaker 2: Jane, do you think this is going to get tidied

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Speaker 2: up or is this going to be an ongoing problem?

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Speaker 19: Well, the funding was only provided for twenty twenty three

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Speaker 19: and twenty twenty four. Obviously they've just redone the collective agreements,

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Speaker 19: and I don't know whether obviously that spending is being

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Speaker 19: being you know, really I can't think.

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Speaker 6: Of the word rolled over.

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Speaker 19: Let's say rolled over, say yeah, so, so, I mean

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Speaker 19: we would expect that there would be I guess maybe

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Speaker 19: better guidance. The Ministry did provide guidance for this last

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Speaker 19: lot of fundy, but if they were to do it again,

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Speaker 19: I think we would maybe expect sort of better guidance

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Speaker 19: and more rules around what the schools can actually spend it.

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Speaker 2: On fair point listen, Jane, thanks very much appreciated. That's

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Speaker 2: Shane Rodgers, Sector manager for Schools at the Office of

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Speaker 2: the Order to General It is actually a very good

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Speaker 2: question to ask, because that thing just got signed last week,

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Speaker 2: or the principles, I don't know. Actually it's a good

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Speaker 2: question to ask what the dealers with the principles, whether

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Speaker 2: they got the six thousand dollars again, and add there's

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Speaker 2: twenty four hundred schools, right, so one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: eight of them. Is what it's like seven eight percent

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Where this I mean, it's not

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Speaker 2: earth shattering, but it's probably big enough to explain why

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Speaker 2: we all knew that this fund was being gamed by

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Speaker 2: some principles. Right twenty past seven, the.

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Speaker 2: Evy, Jimmy Barnes is going to be with us after

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. Just talk us through how he's going after

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Speaker 2: all of his health scares, and if you're not across that,

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Speaker 2: I'll run you through what he's been through. Shortly seven

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Speaker 2: twenty three, So tomorrow's the big day, isn't it? And

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Speaker 2: it is I think not an overstatement to say that

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Speaker 2: the eyes of the world, well at least politicians around

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Speaker 2: the world, are going to be on Australia and whether

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Speaker 2: the social media ban will actually work, and that is

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Speaker 2: still a live question, isn't it. We less than twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours from the thing taking effect, and none of

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Speaker 2: us can totally say for sure that we know it's

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Speaker 2: going to work. For two reasons. One, it's the Internet,

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Speaker 2: so there's always a work around out there, and to

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Speaker 2: involved kids, and if there's a workaround, kids will find

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Speaker 2: the work around. I'm gonna call it for you now.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to work if your definition of working

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Speaker 2: is that one hundred percent of children under sixteen get

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Speaker 2: kicked off and stay off until they're sixteen. But I

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Speaker 2: think it is possible that it is going to work

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Speaker 2: if your definition is a little bit more flexible, which

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Speaker 2: is that most kids get kicked off and stay off

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Speaker 2: because their parents force them to do it. And I

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Speaker 2: think that is the key thing here, Like it always

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Speaker 2: is parents getting involved talking about whether it works or not. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I think kind of misses the point here, which is

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Speaker 2: that this gives parents something that they haven't had yet,

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Speaker 2: which is permission to keep their kids off social media.

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Speaker 2: Because what parents have been finding is it's very hard

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Speaker 2: to keep fourteen year old Susie off social media. Off

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Speaker 2: the facy, off the Insta of TikTok, Off the snapchat,

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Speaker 2: because all Susie's friends are on it, and if Susie's

870
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: not on it, then she becomes the weird kid. And

871
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: nobody wants their kid to be the weird kid, right,

872
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: So you're relenting. You let Susie on it. This has

873
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: the potential to flip all of that pressure around. Now

874
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: everyone's off. Now the kid that's on it, Little Johnny's

875
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: on it. Susie comes home, she's old. Johnny's on TikTok?

876
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: Can I go on TikTok?

877
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 16: You go?

878
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: No, Johnny's a naughty kid from a family that has

879
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: no rules, no boundaries, no discipline. Susie, You've got boundaries

880
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: and discipline your parents care about. You know, you stay off.

881
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: It gives permission for the parents to be able to

882
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: do that kind of thing. And if you're a parent,

883
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, peer pressure is massive, isn't it, especially in

884
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: the teenage years. The Aussie government's doing its bit by

885
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: bringing us to this point. The tech companies are being

886
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: dragged into doing their bit, and ultimately this will live

887
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: or die in Australia based on whether Australian parents do

888
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: their bit and actually step up to the plate and

889
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: parent properly.

890
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: Here here the duplicy Ellen.

891
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: There is a big development in rugby. This is that

892
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes fifty percent of the ownership of the Hurricanes. Basically,

893
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Wellington Rugby's let it go. It's sold. It's fifty percent share.

894
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: It's gone to the private guys. This is because they're

895
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: running out of money. I mean, there are some fundamental,

896
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: like really big fundamental questions here about what's going on

897
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: with sport, netball, cricket, rugby that they just cannot make

898
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: any money. It's the pay packets, by the way, it's

899
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: how much we pay the rugby players. Anyway, we're going

900
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: to speak to one of the guys who's from the

901
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: private consortium stepping up to buy this. He's going to

902
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: be us straight after the news. Now, got to run

903
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: you through the Golden Globes based on this is if

904
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: I still think the Golden Globes are okay in terms

905
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: of the nooms, Like the oscars, you look at it,

906
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: you go, what is this weird stuff that you've been watching?

907
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: And then you watch it and you go, why did

908
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: I waste my time? The Golden Globes I think still

909
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 2: give you a fair idea of what's good to watch.

910
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: And if you trust them, then what you want to

911
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: go out and watch is one Battle after another. Well,

912
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: when I say go out, you just stream it, now,

913
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: can't you? One Battle after another? The White Lotus and

914
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: Adolescence if you haven't already watched it, and then wild

915
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: card Marty Supreme. So in the movies, one battle after

916
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: another's got the most norms. It's this is the one

917
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: with Leo DiCaprio in it. It's got nine knobs. Then

918
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: you've got sentimental value that's got eight knobs, and Sinners

919
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: which is like a vampire thriller that's got seven. In

920
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: the TV department, White Lotus has got six norms, Adolescence

921
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: has got five. Only murders in the building and Severns

922
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: are doing pretty well as well with four nominations each.

923
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: But Marty Supreme is the one that I reckon if

924
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: you need to keep an eye out for. It's in

925
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: for the Best Motion Picture Musical Comedy, in for Best

926
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: Performance by a Male Actor. That's for Timothy Shallamay you know,

927
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: lead lead boy. What do they call themselves the rat

928
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: rats or something like? Do you know what I'm talking

929
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: about there's like a like a thing where people started

930
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: finding ratty looking men in Hollywood quite sexy. And he's

931
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: he's one of the lead proponents of the ratty face.

932
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: Also in four Abbecation. Yeah, it's quite a thing. Best

933
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 2: Screenplay Motion Picture. So go and see Marty Supreme because

934
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: the Telegraph, I think, called it the best film of

935
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: the year. Don't bother with Wicked for Good and snub

936
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: News is next.

937
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic Heather duple c Allen on the Mic

938
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently

939
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three, News togs dead b hither.

940
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand why these principles are not facing reprimand

941
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: or even charges they've misappropriated public funds. Well, I mean,

942
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: good question, Although who do you charge? Do you charge

943
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: the school boards who said yep to the funding or

944
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: do you charge the principles who went on the trip

945
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: to Fiji or where wherever they may have gone. You know,

946
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I was just talking about problems with sports. Well here's

947
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: another one for you. This has just emerged today that

948
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: chief executive at New Zealand Cricket, Scott Weeningk has gone

949
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: on leave. It's understood he went on leave five o'clock

950
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: on Friday, and that is because if you've been following

951
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: what's going on there with the T twenty and how

952
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: that's been like and the disagreements about the teach proposed

953
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: T twenty thing for New Zealand and then his position

954
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: on that and him being undermined by the board and

955
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. He's gone on leave and now he's

956
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: going to go into mediation with Cricket Board apparently over

957
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: his future. They have denied that there is an I

958
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: always enjoy a case of the pr people just you know,

959
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: embarrassing themselves with stories or you go whatever doesn't pass

960
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: the sniff test. So Richard Book, who is the manager

961
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: of public Affairs at the New Zealand Cricket and he

962
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: does deserve to be name checked for this. He's denied

963
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: that there's an employment process going on with Scott Weiningk.

964
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: He says he's taken some time off to be with

965
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: his family at the start of the school holidays. When

966
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: you roll out the family, you know it's dodgy. Also,

967
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: he's coming back to work on the nineteenth of December whatever,

968
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: that's the day all of us are leaving. I don't

969
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: buy this at all. Twenty two away from mate, sure.

970
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: So we have a significant development in the ownership of rugby.

971
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: The Wellington RFU Rugby Football Union has sold its fifty

972
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: percent stake in the Hurricanes to private owners, basically as

973
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: a result of running out of money. The buyers are

974
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: New Zealand'sport Investment Limited. Malcolm Gillies is part of it

975
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: and he's with us now. H I'm Malcolm, Malcolm are

976
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: you there? Hold on, we have a problem. We've got

977
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: a problem with the phone line again. I'm going to

978
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: fix it while we're waiting for Malcolm to get back on.

979
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 2: Do you want me to make you feel a little

980
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: bit cross? Get ready for it. Yeah, it's a trigger warning.

981
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Get ready for it. This is how much money you're

982
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 2: paying Radio New z and staff. In twenty twenty three

983
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: they employed one hundred and seven people who earned over

984
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. The next year, twenty twenty four,

985
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: that number increased to one hundred and forty five people,

986
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: and now it's one hundred and seventy eight people. So

987
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: in the space of two years, the number of people

988
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: who earn over one hundred thousand dollars has gone up

989
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: by seventy people from one o seven to one seven eight.

990
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: There's a reason for it, and I'm going to get

991
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: back to it shortly, but I've just got Malcolm back

992
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: on the line with us. Malcolm, Hello, good a, how

993
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: are you. I'm very well, Thank you mate, thanks for

994
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: talking to us. I understand you're in Fiji, is that right?

995
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 13: Yeah?

996
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: Oh you're a good lovely weather. Yeah, thank you for

997
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: doing it. Now. Did you go to the Hurricanes or

998
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Wellington Football and offer this deal or did they come

999
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: to you?

1000
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 20: Well, we deal started with Wilmington Rugby. They came to

1001
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 20: us and said that they were thinking of so in

1002
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 20: this years and so we took it from there.

1003
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think it's a good investment given what's

1004
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: going on with rugby.

1005
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 20: I think it's a challenging one.

1006
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: I think it's got a great future.

1007
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 20: There's a lot of untapped potential, but there's certainly a

1008
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 20: lot of things to do. So I think if you

1009
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 20: just do it the same way as it's been done,

1010
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 20: then this can be very difficult. But we did it

1011
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 20: for a lot of reasons. My partner, John Bellen, and Peter,

1012
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 20: we both all of us decided that well, we've got

1013
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 20: a passion for rugby and we certainly got a passion

1014
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 20: for Wellington rugby. So it wasn't all necessarily about making money.

1015
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 20: Was about trying to help help the union sort itself

1016
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 20: out and at the same time obviously help the Hurricanes.

1017
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they need to make money. I mean, it

1018
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: does need to make money to continue, doesn't it.

1019
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 20: Yes, it does. It's got to pay its way, and

1020
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 20: we're reasonably happy that we can with our business skills

1021
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 20: that we can do that.

1022
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: So what are you going to change? Would you change

1023
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: where you host the games? Get out of sky Stadium?

1024
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 20: Look, that's always an option. But then once again, if

1025
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 20: you know, the easiest thing is to blame sky Stadium.

1026
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 20: It's too big, it's this, and it's that. The reality

1027
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 20: is the Hurricanes also have a responsibility to re engage

1028
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 20: with their fans. I mean, we had an average crowd

1029
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 20: size of seven thousand, and I think, you know, realistically,

1030
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 20: we've got to look at ourselves. How do we get

1031
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 20: that When we had the PACIFICA game, we had nearly

1032
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 20: twenty thousand. So the reality is that we've got a

1033
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 20: lot of work to do. We've got to re engage

1034
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 20: with our fans, their past players and our communities. We've

1035
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 20: got to get people in behind us again and we've

1036
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 20: got to have a product that they want to go

1037
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 20: and watch.

1038
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: Turn up so big. Why the fans turn up for that, Malcolm,

1039
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: apart from obviously being really ardent fans, Is it not

1040
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: because it's a rare thing on the calendar. It's an event.

1041
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 20: No, you've got to make You've got to make an

1042
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 20: event out of the day. And you know, we don't

1043
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 20: have a lot of money to spend massive things on marketing,

1044
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 20: but there's a lot of things we could do to

1045
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 20: re engage to make them. We can set up club

1046
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 20: combatitions where they wear their jerseys.

1047
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 21: We can do a lot of things.

1048
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: Are you committing You've got five fixtures that you have

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: to play next year apparently at Skystadium. Are you definitely

1050
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: going to play all five of them there?

1051
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: Well?

1052
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 20: This year we've got one in christ Church and we've

1053
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 20: got one in Napier. It depends, It depends what we

1054
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 20: can do. We also think we have a responsibility to

1055
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 20: take the game out into the regions as well. This

1056
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 20: year we've got one in Napier, and I think, you know,

1057
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 20: we've got six pus right stretching right up to gisbone,

1058
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 20: So I think it's important that we get at least

1059
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 20: one of those games each year out into the PUS.

1060
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 20: So if we've got five home games next year, we'll

1061
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 20: just have to look at how we're going. I mean,

1062
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 20: the fact of the matter is it might not be.

1063
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 20: You know, we've got to make sure we can pay

1064
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 20: what it costs to play at the stadium, and that's

1065
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 20: my job.

1066
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: If the woman's team doesn't make money, do you have

1067
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: to continue with it?

1068
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 20: We probably will have one of the best women's teams

1069
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 20: looking at the roster or with the coaching roster at

1070
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 20: the stage that we've ever had, So we're not contemplating

1071
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 20: that losing money.

1072
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 5: I mean, the.

1073
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 20: Women's team is supported well to start with. Why the

1074
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 20: NJ are you anyway, So it's really up to us

1075
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 20: just to to you know, to play a reasonable game

1076
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 20: of rugby, and it's a growing attraction the woman's game

1077
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 20: all across the world.

1078
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: I feel kind of sorry for you, Malcolm, because I

1079
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: think you're pushing it up here with this because part

1080
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 2: of your problem and you can only fix so many things.

1081
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: Part of The problem is rugby is boring, isn't it.

1082
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Speaker 2: Like you look at what is going on in the field.

1083
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: It's so fast on rugby league, it's so fast now

1084
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: on the football you can really enjoy it. Rugby they're

1085
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: getting together and slowing down the ball the whole time.

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00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: You can't fix that.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, firstly, I don't want you to feel sorry

1088
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 20: for me, you know, really, I totally agree, and I

1089
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Speaker 20: think anyone with half a brain can look to see.

1090
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 20: But that's a bigger thing than what.

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Speaker 3: I can fix.

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Speaker 20: I still believe people that are passionate about rugby will

1093
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 20: give the people that have the opportunity to change the

1094
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 20: rules the time to do it. I mean, rugby's been

1095
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 20: a part of our culture. It's a part of who

1096
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 20: we are in New Zealand, as is league. But yes,

1097
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 20: definitely league is a better spectacle right now. You need

1098
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 20: to be honest. We all know that. But I think

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00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 20: surely we're not the only ones that can see that,

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Speaker 20: and the people that have the power to change that

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Speaker 20: given time, I think we'll do that. They'll address it.

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: The time Malcolm, they take so long. Listen, good luck

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Speaker 2: with it and thanks for stepping and mate this and

1104
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: talking to us from Fiji. Malcolm Gillies hurricane chair. Right

1105
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: here we go, here's get ready for it. Here's your

1106
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand figures. So it's gone up right now.

1107
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: Why did the staff numbers go up so massively? That

1108
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: would be because Grant Robertson and then through huge amount

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00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: of money at Radio New Zealand in about twenty twenty

1110
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: three twenty twenty four. So now I'm going to run

1111
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: you through how much it's costing you and I'll do

1112
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: that in a minute quarter two the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio now ad

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

1115
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: That be right here we go. So this, by the way,

1116
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: has come out of the annual report, the Radio New

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00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: Zealand Annual Reports. So they go all the funding and

1118
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: checktion and they were like, guys, it's all on. We've

1119
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: got heaps of cash. Ye have a pay rise, have

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Speaker 2: pay rise, have praise. And now half of them are earning.

1121
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, it literally is half of them.

1122
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: It's forty nine percent of them who are on six figures.

1123
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: Imagine being in the fifty one percent that isn't earning

1124
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. I mean that sucks. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Salary bill has gone from thirty two million in twenty

1126
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: twenty three to thirty seven million the following year to

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00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: forty two million dollars this year. It's gone up by

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Speaker 2: a third in the space of two years because they

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: got the cash right. But problem now is they got

1130
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: the cash and then Goldie came and Paul Goldsmith and went,

1131
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: that's too much Bunney and he took a bunch of

1132
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: money away and guess what. Now they're in the red

1133
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: because they're paying their staff too much, aren't they say?

1134
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: Are they going to fix that? Treasury doesn't like it.

1135
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: It's recommended to the government that it Wallace recommended, actually yeah,

1136
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: to the government that ministers that an assessment from the

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand chair is requested on how Arnz it

1138
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: is responding to expectations and assurance that management is being

1139
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: held to account. So if you're a manager at ore

1140
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: n Z, shellon out the taxpayer dough like there's no tomorrow,

1141
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: you're about to find out about that. Now. Try to

1142
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: get into my Christmas party today And yeah, I've left

1143
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: the I left it too late, so I don't know

1144
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll do. I'll do something. I'll get into

1145
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I really want to go.

1146
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: It's between one and four in the afternoon. What kind

1147
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: of a Christmas party is that? Anyway? This has come

1148
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: up again this year, comes up every year. The question

1149
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: is at the end of the Lavish Kiwi Office Christmas Party.

1150
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm raising this with you this hardy annual,

1151
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: the reason I'm raising it with you this year is

1152
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: because finally somebody has said the thing that needs to

1153
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: be said, and that's deb Repeed Debra Peede, who is

1154
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: the pr Queen in Auckland and has done it for

1155
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 2: forty five years so has seen her share her fair

1156
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: share of wild Christmas party, especially in public relations reckons.

1157
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: There's two reasons the Lavish Christmas Party is over. Number

1158
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: One the social media, right, because if you're going to

1159
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: go there and then you're going to snog your boss

1160
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: in the corner, I'm just gonna come past, I'm gonna

1161
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: film you and stick it up on Instagram, aren't I

1162
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: And then then you're gonna get fired. So that's part

1163
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: of the reason you're not getting boozed and doing that.

1164
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: But the second reason, thank god, somebody said it. The

1165
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: second reason is women. Women are increasingly occupying leadership positions,

1166
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: she said, and we've become more empowered in the workplace,

1167
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 2: so we don't put up with bad behavior. Now, isn't

1168
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: that the truth? Think, I know this is confronting. Think

1169
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: about it for a second. Think about it. No one

1170
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: is more boring than a mum, and especially a mum

1171
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: of really small kids. Like we just don't have any

1172
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: tolerance for excessive drinking, excessive loud noise, rudeness, like absolutely

1173
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: no interest in sexy stuff. Right, you've got try grab

1174
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: in my butt. I'm just gonna punch you in the face.

1175
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in it at the moment. So this

1176
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: is necessary. It's a biological reality because we've got to

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Speaker 2: keep the little kids alive. So we've got to be

1178
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: as boring as possible. But even if but just because

1179
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: it's a necessity doesn't mean that it's not true. Your

1180
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: wife is killing your party and your lady boss is

1181
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: killing your party, and I can't do anything other than

1182
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: say I'm really sorry, but such is life. Nine Away

1183
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: from eight.

1184
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: Heather Dupussy Allen on the mic, asking Breakfast We're the

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Speaker 1: Defender and news tog dead b.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the women of the worst behaved office dues in

1187
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: my experience, and I'm a woman ever with the young

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: ones before they have children, and then they have children,

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Speaker 2: and then it all stops, doesn't it. Well, not for

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Speaker 2: all of them. Stix away from eight Now. Debate has

1191
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: fired up over whether our long summer break is too long.

1192
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: It's been kicked off, but they had opinion piece written

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: by the businessman Toss Grumley who reckons taking weeks off

1194
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: over summer hurts our productivity and cue everyone weighing in

1195
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: with their opinion, from the Prime Minister to Simon Bridges.

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Speaker 2: The Auckland boss. Christoph Schumacher is a professor of innovation

1197
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: and economics at Massi University and is with us on this.

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Speaker 3: High Christoph, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon as summer breaks too long?

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00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 21: Well, our summer break is long compared to the rest

1201
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 21: of the world, and you see them scores quite highly

1202
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 21: on the work life balance. But I think the question

1203
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 21: is not is it too long? The question should be

1204
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 21: can we afford it?

1205
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Well? I mean you wouldn't be doing it if you

1206
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: couldn't afford it, would.

1207
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Speaker 21: You ll look in the last ten years our productivity

1208
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 21: growth rate has gone from one point two percent, which

1209
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 21: is right the OCD average, to zero point two percent,

1210
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 21: and we now are ranked sixty third out of sixty

1211
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 21: seven countries. So our productivity is rather low. So the

1212
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 21: question becomes, then can we afford this rather long summer break?

1213
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 21: And the answer the crystal no.

1214
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: The answer is no. You're totally right. But saying to

1215
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: me like, okay, So saying to the small business owner

1216
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: who's running a construction business, Hey, he's worked all hard,

1217
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: it will year really really hard. He wants to take

1218
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: the summer off, saying to him he needs to keep

1219
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: working through the summer for the country's productivity. Is not

1220
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: going to make him work through the summer, is it.

1221
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 21: No, Look, people do deserve their breaks, and the all

1222
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 21: of the states right now where we do need a

1223
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 21: break to become fresh and come back to work. In

1224
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 21: the question justice, can we structure it better? Can we

1225
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 21: organize it better so that not everything shuts down, but

1226
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 21: we scale thing. Some people stay here to keep business

1227
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 21: going as usual, some people take off and re rotate.

1228
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 21: This possibly over the years, always the possibility of working remotely.

1229
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 21: Maybe we start using that more during the summer break

1230
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 21: as well. I think It just needs to be a

1231
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 21: smarter way. Nobody denies that people need a break and

1232
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 21: deserve a break because Kiwis are hard workers. We work

1233
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 21: long hours. We just sometimes don't structure as well as

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 21: we could.

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Speaker 2: A very good point. Thank you, Christopher. Appreciate Christoph Schumacher,

1236
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: a professor of Innovation and Economics of Massive University. If

1237
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: we're going to do that, we're if we're going to

1238
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: stagger it our bags the summer, you can take the

1239
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 2: winter off.

1240
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Speaker 10: Are we hard workers? I thought we had a pot

1241
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 10: productivity crisis.

1242
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I only worked three hours a day.

1243
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: Did you see that text before? I just come in

1244
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: at six? Do do? Mike shagerhan brilliant?

1245
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 10: I mean if you add up my contribution to the show,

1246
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 10: it's about sixteen minutes. Yeah at tops tops Yeah, no wonder,

1247
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 10: I don't have any lead.

1248
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: You press buttons and sometimes you just forget as well,

1249
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: So probably only fifteen minutes. Hey, Jimmy Barnes is going

1250
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: to be that next He had heart surgery back on

1251
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: stage like within months is remarkable. Talk through that after

1252
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: eight o'clock news talks.

1253
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Speaker 16: He'd be.

1254
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Speaker 3: Credible compelling the Breakfast show. You can't Bess.

1255
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper c Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast

1256
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life, Your Way, News, togs Head.

1257
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: B Yeah you Love It. Seven past eight. The Working

1258
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 2: class Man is back. Jimmy Barnes. He's bringing his most

1259
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: famous songs to our shores in the first half of

1260
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: next year, most successful artist in Australian chart history, and

1261
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: his long love New Zealand because we showed his band

1262
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: colchis a love right from the very beginning. But this

1263
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: time it's a solo tour he's going to be doing.

1264
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: He's backed up by his Cold Chisel bandmate Ian Moss,

1265
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: who's also going to be performing solo. It's called All

1266
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: the Working class Man Tour and it's going to mark

1267
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: the fortieth anniversary of the song's release and the album's

1268
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: release in Jimmy Barnes is with us.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Jimmy, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Hell are you well?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well. How are you though? Because you've had

1273
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: the health stuff.

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01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 6: Oh I'm quiting fit. I mean I've had one hundred

1275
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 6: thousand dollars one hundred thousand mile service, you know. I mean, yeah,

1276
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 6: I'm really healthy. I'm good. I'm swimming a kilometer of

1277
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 6: most days now and working out every day, and I'm

1278
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 6: so I'm ready to rock.

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, But do you know what do you know why

1280
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm asking this Because you had the heart surgery and

1281
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: the in fiction around about the same time that my

1282
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: husband had exactly the same experience, and you're playing it down.

1283
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what you went through was massive.

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 6: It was very painful, and I nearly died. I was

1285
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: close to death. The staff I got staff infection in

1286
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 6: my heart and it was really the operation I had

1287
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 6: went for about seven hours. It was sort of the

1288
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 6: surgeon here, Paul Jans, who's probably one of the best

1289
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: in the world, said it was like it was more

1290
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 6: dangerous than a transplant. So so, you know, a major work.

1291
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 6: But I just figure, you know, I was in I

1292
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 6: was in great hands, and you know I left and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I said, I've got all new parts and

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 6: all the stuff, so I should be going for another

1295
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 6: twenty years.

1296
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Speaker 2: What made it more dangerous than a transplant.

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Speaker 6: Because there was with the transplant they take it all out.

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 6: These were internal workings. They had to add valve eortic

1299
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 6: valve replacement I had, They had to repair the mitro

1300
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 6: valve go under their back and repair the mitro valve.

1301
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: They had to take out where the valves are seated

1302
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 6: because the virus had eaten into it. So they transplant

1303
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 6: all this flesh there and then I think there's fourteen

1304
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 6: centimeters of aorta had been eaten away by this bug.

1305
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 6: And literally, if they hadn't done that, I could been

1306
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 6: you know, I could have been singing in bulged and

1307
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 6: popped it and died on spot. You know. It was

1308
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 6: like it was very just it was long, intense and

1309
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 6: you needed you know, it's a team of surgeons as

1310
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: you put you know because your husband done it, but

1311
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 6: there's not the the physical pain of having your chest,

1312
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: you know, priced open is incredibly us the second time

1313
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 6: I've had it, So I a two thousand and seven

1314
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 6: as well.

1315
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they cut through, don't they They do

1316
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: the whole.

1317
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 6: And literally when I when I had done two thousand

1318
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 6: and seven, I as I was going into the hospital,

1319
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 6: being cheeky as I was, I had a digital camera.

1320
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 6: I gave it to the nurse. I said take a

1321
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 6: few snaps, you know, and I was thinking they're going

1322
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 6: to get the machines and all that sort of stuff.

1323
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 6: About three days after I got intensive care, I saw

1324
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 6: my camera and I managed to reach for it and

1325
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 6: they're taking photographs inside my chest and it's this like

1326
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 6: they're just it's like a carjack as like medieval.

1327
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: But you know what, people, I think don't appreciate about

1328
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: what you've been through, almost dying from an infection. All

1329
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: of the trauma of the surgery is that it takes

1330
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: years to really fully recover from it. But you were

1331
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: back on stage with them what like three or four

1332
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: six months.

1333
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 6: It started rehearsal seven weeks after surgery with cultures and

1334
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 6: went on the cultures or two. I just had to

1335
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 6: to be really careful. I was really you know, I

1336
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 6: had great physios. I did ever And the doctor said,

1337
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 6: when when you're doing physio, you've got to do exactly

1338
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 6: what they say. You can't do too much, you can't

1339
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 6: do do too little. So for the first you know,

1340
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: free months, I did exactly what they said. Every day.

1341
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 6: I had a physio with me on the road, so

1342
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 6: he would check every day and check had that and

1343
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 6: had the hit at the same time. So uh, it's

1344
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 6: you know, And and once I got strong enough to

1345
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 6: say you can go a bit harder, I push myself.

1346
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 6: And besides that, I was you know, Jane, and my

1347
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 6: wife's the best nurse in the world. She was, she's

1348
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 6: been through this me before, and she she was feeding me.

1349
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 6: And every morning I get up and have the juices

1350
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 6: from growing in an organic garden, you know. Uh, I

1351
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 6: had a fresh vegetables, fresh everything grown, fruit from our

1352
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 6: own trees, all organic, and so I was I was

1353
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 6: just getting everything was pumped, everything was goodness, It was love.

1354
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: It was gonna be pumped into me. And everything was

1355
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 6: cooked with love. And I think that you know that

1356
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 6: that thing about you know, it's like like singing. If

1357
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 6: you sing with love, people hear it. If you cook

1358
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 6: with love, people can taste it and people can feel it,

1359
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 6: and the goodness is there. And so I was surrounded

1360
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 6: by by really great people and great love. There's a

1361
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 6: lot of care and you know, just so many well

1362
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 6: wishes from so many punters out there who are just

1363
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 6: you know, wushing me the best along the way sort of.

1364
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: They didn't want me to fall apart, so you know,

1365
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 6: and luckily the other thing is luckily when it happened.

1366
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 6: You know, leading up to that, I've gone through five years.

1367
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 6: Prior to that, I've done through a lot of changes

1368
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 6: in my life, and I'd got really healthy. I was

1369
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 6: swimming you know, miles every day and through and all

1370
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. So the doctor said, if I

1371
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 6: hadn't been as healthy as I was when I went in,

1372
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 6: I might not have made it.

1373
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: So you think it hasn't changed your perspective on life?

1374
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 16: Oh?

1375
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, And every moment's precious and every you know,

1376
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 6: and you know, and you really you can't take things

1377
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 6: for granted. You do have to make an effort. You

1378
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 6: do have to. You know, it's important. You know, I

1379
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 6: want to be around to see my grandkids grow. I

1380
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 6: want to be around and you know, and you know,

1381
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 6: I want to you know, look at the sunset with

1382
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 6: my with my wife. You know, I'm want to hold

1383
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: her hand and you know, and feel that warmth. And

1384
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 6: to do that you have to you have to take

1385
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 6: the right steps.

1386
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy, listen, hang on, Lea Tech, I want to

1387
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: talk to you about you too. Do that next, Jimmy

1388
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: Barnes Right now, twelve past eight, the.

1389
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I D Coward

1390
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: by News Talk Zippy.

1391
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: Right, It's quarter passed back with Jimmy Barnes. Now, Jimmy,

1392
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: tell me what made you decide to do a tour

1393
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: of this album forty years on? What brought this song

1394
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: for you?

1395
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 6: Well? It was it was such a record, was so

1396
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 6: pivotal in my life and in my career. This song's

1397
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 6: on this record changed my life forever. I remember making

1398
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 6: it forty years ago. In nineteen eighty five, I was

1399
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 6: I'd come out the back of Cold Chissel at the

1400
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 6: end of December eighty three, when colchis were finished, I thought,

1401
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know how I'm going to follow

1402
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 6: this band, such a great rock and roll band, you know,

1403
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 6: I was. I wasn't a songwriter, you know. I just

1404
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 6: started writing songs. I've had Don Walker, who's the best

1405
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 6: songwriter in the world, I think, writing songs for colch Hazell.

1406
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 6: So I was terrified about, you know, And I left

1407
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 6: Cold Chizel February eighty four. I went up with I've

1408
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 6: got a rock and roll little band or just guitars,

1409
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 6: no keyboards anthing. It was real simple, and I went

1410
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 6: and played all these little clubs all the way up

1411
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 6: queens like North Queensland and back, and over the period

1412
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 6: of a month I sort of phoned my feet as

1413
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 6: just as you know, it wasn't wasn't pretty, and it

1414
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 6: wasn't sort of flash. It was just raw and it

1415
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 6: had emotion. And so I made a record and I

1416
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 6: put that out and I thought, you know, this will

1417
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 6: just sort of bridge the gap between the people won't

1418
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 6: to compare me to coaches. And that record went to

1419
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 6: number one and was Body Swerve, and I was so

1420
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 6: that was really lucky, and it sort of gave me

1421
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 6: a bit of breathing room. But in what it did

1422
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 6: was it allowed me to sit back and go, this

1423
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 6: next record I make is the one that's either going

1424
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 6: to make or break me. So I've got to make

1425
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 6: something great here. So I went to America to write

1426
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 6: a lot of songs and to do a lot of

1427
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 6: work for this record. I was working with Bob clear Mountain,

1428
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 6: who's a record producer who's one of the best in

1429
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 6: the world. I redid all the songs from Body Swerve

1430
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 6: and and packed them up for this, and then I

1431
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 6: needed a bunch of other songs, and so I wrote

1432
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 6: and wrote with people. Uh, you know, I've made a

1433
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 6: lot of friends over the years. Mick Fleetwood, you know,

1434
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 6: was a dear friend of mine and I love making.

1435
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 6: He's one of the sweetest guys in the world, but

1436
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 6: also one of the great drumas. You know, So Mick

1437
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 6: Mick was Mick was around and Mix said I want

1438
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 6: to get involved, and he was introducing me to players

1439
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 6: Billy Burnett, who was the nephew of Dorsey Burnett of

1440
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 6: the Rock and Roll Trio, which is one of the

1441
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 6: great rockabilly bands in the world, who I loved. So

1442
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 6: Billy became friends of mine, and we were there and uh,

1443
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 6: you know, we uh we uh we were still of

1444
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 6: good in the studio and recorded a few tracks. I

1445
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 6: started writing some songs I wrote with a guy called

1446
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 6: Chas Sanford. Chas was was a huge writer at the time,

1447
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 6: and he'd written you know, Talked to Me for Steve

1448
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 6: v Nix and Missing You for John Waite. He'd been

1449
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 6: writing songs for Don Henley and and he gave me

1450
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 6: a song called a Diaty be with You Tonight. And

1451
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 6: I remember getting that song and thinking, this is a

1452
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 6: really good song. This is a big step in the

1453
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 6: right direction from my record so starting to gain a

1454
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 6: bit of confidence. A week later, I was in the

1455
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: record company in Geffrid Records, with the A and R guy,

1456
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 6: and he said I had been contacted by Steve van

1457
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 6: Zandt and Steve van Zant was the guitar player from

1458
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 6: Bruce's band, Bruce Bringsteen's band, and that was a huge

1459
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 6: fan of Stevie van and he said to stevee who

1460
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 6: loves your voice and wants to write a song for you.

1461
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 6: So him and Steve Jordan, who is now the druma

1462
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 6: from the Rolling Stones, I got together and sent me

1463
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 6: a demo of a song they wrote together. And it's

1464
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 6: like Steve van Zandt playing an acoustic guitar and singing

1465
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 6: into a dictaphone with Steve Jordan playing drums on the

1466
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 6: back of his couch, and it sounded just amazing. And

1467
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 6: so that was right the night away. So I had

1468
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 6: these two songs under my belt and I knew it

1469
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 6: was going to be good. I wrote a song called

1470
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 6: Without Your Love. It's a love song for Jane, my wife,

1471
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 6: and I went and recorded it with with Mick Fleetwood

1472
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 6: and a whole bunch of really great players. And then

1473
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 6: the last sort of big piece of the puzzle came

1474
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 6: when I met with a guy called Jonathan came and

1475
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 6: so Jonathan was was he'd been in a band called

1476
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 6: The Babies, who I really liked, and and and he

1477
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 6: was in Journey. And I did know a lot about Journey,

1478
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 6: but I knew they were massive in America, but they

1479
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 6: never they never translated to Australia, so we didn't know

1480
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 6: him much here. But anyway, Jonathan came in and we

1481
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 6: were talking and he was asking he obviously hadn't been

1482
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 6: in Australia New Zealand. He was asking about what it

1483
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 6: was like to tour down down this part of the world.

1484
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 6: And I was explaining how the audience is a pretty

1485
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 6: pretty tough you know, if you don't like it, it's like,

1486
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 6: you know, they'll throw things back. Yeah, and if they

1487
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 6: like you, they love you. And I said, you know,

1488
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 6: the soul of the youth people that came out and

1489
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 6: the Saturday and I kicked their bloody. He was up

1490
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 6: and then you know, Monday morning, the back of work

1491
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 6: and they're looking after their family so they get their

1492
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 6: care and he mustay he took it all in. I

1493
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 6: could see him, and he went away, and a week

1494
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 6: later he sent me a song working Classmen, and I

1495
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 6: remember hearing the demo and thinking, I think this song's

1496
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 6: going to define my career literally, and uh so I

1497
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 6: finished recording those songs. By the time I'd finished recording both,

1498
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 6: you know, all those songs, I knew I had a

1499
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 6: really good record. I felt. I felt I had a

1500
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 6: really good record on my on my hands, and it

1501
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,480
Speaker 6: was just now it was how to get it across

1502
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 6: to people. I came back to Australia and Michael Godinski,

1503
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 6: my dear friend and my partner and crime who you

1504
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 6: know who I loved daily. Michael and I sat and

1505
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 6: we had so many songs I had to be a

1506
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 6: double record and he going, we're talking at the time,

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Speaker 6: and I remember a double record in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 6: I think it might have been forty five dollars or

1509
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 6: something like that was expensive, and that's too expensive. You know,

1510
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 6: people are struggling, you know. It was like it's like

1511
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 6: the times are now, you know, people were making hard

1512
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 6: times back to buy records, and so we did everything

1513
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 6: we could. We pulled favors from the art department, so

1514
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 6: we did all this and we managed to get the

1515
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 6: record and we and we we got we got them

1516
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 6: so they could put it out at nineteen ninety nine,

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 6: so it was under twenty dollars and to get a

1518
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 6: double album under twenty dollars, and I said, well we should,

1519
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 6: we should make a point of this and just say

1520
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 6: this is for the working class people. So we called

1521
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 6: it for the Working Class Man. And I think the

1522
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 6: fact that we came from the the it wasn't a gimmick,

1523
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 6: It wasn't sort of trying to you know, trying to

1524
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 6: play people, was trying to make things worth while for

1525
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 6: them and thinking thinking about the situation of the public.

1526
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 6: They all sort of jumped on it and ended up

1527
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 6: just going crazy. It was, you know, sold six hundred

1528
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: thousand copies and it was a record that was sort

1529
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 6: of that literally changed my life.

1530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking for to seeing it. Love Jimmy, listen,

1531
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: look after yourself.

1532
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 6: Yes, I will likes to talk to you.

1533
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeap, brilliant to talk to you. Jimmy Barnes. He'll be

1534
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: bringing the fortieth anniversary of For the Working Classman the

1535
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: Album to New Zealand and will be doing it in

1536
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: the first half of next years. To keep an eye

1537
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: out for that.

1538
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Speaker 1: Eight twenty one, Heather dup c ellen on the my

1539
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: Casking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Talks.

1540
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Speaker 2: There'd be Kerry, who's the operations manager at Central It

1541
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: and Business Supplies, as a Resonate Hearing Aids subscriber himself,

1542
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: and after speaking with Allan from Resonate about how hearing

1543
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 2: aids hearing effects confidence, communication, and even cognitive function, something

1544
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: click because he realized one of his young team members, Jacob,

1545
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: had been quietly struggling with his hearing for years. Could

1546
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 2: work are really great attitude, but in a noisy workplace,

1547
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: he wasn't hearing well and that makes everything harder. So

1548
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: Kerry reached out to Resonate again, this time to see

1549
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: what could be done for Jacob, and that's when he

1550
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: heard about Resonate sponsorship program and so Central ITM made

1551
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: the call they would sponsor Jacob's hearing and cover the

1552
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: ninety dollars monthly subscription for his hearing aids so that

1553
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: he could get top of the rage. Hearing Aids ongoing

1554
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 2: care and the change has been immediate. Jacob's part of

1555
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: conversations again, He's more confident with the customers. He's contributing

1556
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: a heap more. Whole team can feel it. And this

1557
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: is what it looks like when an employer invests in

1558
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: their people. So if you have someone on your team

1559
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: who might be struggling, or if you're noticing changes yourself,

1560
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: talk to Resonate call eight hundred Resonate or visit resonatehealth

1561
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: dot co dot nz.

1562
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: Forgever do to Ce Allen Right.

1563
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: Got the meetings Zelenski meeting at number ten Downing Street,

1564
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 2: which has been happening overnight our time. We're going to

1565
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: have a chat very very shortly to Rod Little, UK correspondent.

1566
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: Just see what his take on that is for you, Heather,

1567
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing Jimmy play and christ Church.

1568
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: It's the twentieth wedding anniversary with the VIP tickets to

1569
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: watch this legion play for the fifth time. Life doesn't

1570
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: get much better. Good on your shame. He's played was

1571
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: the seventeen April in christ Church, nineteen April in a Sunday.

1572
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: It is always hard to start a week with a concert,

1573
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 2: but you know, you know, you only live once, so

1574
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: I think we might get the girls along time go

1575
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: for a concert club. We've got an unexpected problem with

1576
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: the younger generation getting all the diagnosis. You know how

1577
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: the younger generation loves knowing that they've got the ADHD

1578
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: and the anxiety and the depression and stuff like that.

1579
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: Unexpected problem with this is that they are now expecting

1580
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: to retire early because they cannot imagine having to work

1581
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: with all of these you know, encumbrances, these burdens until

1582
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: last sixty five. So this is research out of the

1583
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: UK that shows thirty five percent of employees aged between

1584
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: sixteen and twenty four reckon they're going to have to

1585
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: stop working for health reasons early. And it's the highest

1586
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: of any highest share of any generational group, right, which

1587
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: be no surprise to you whatsoever. Now this is potentially

1588
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: I would just like to point out to you problematic

1589
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: for Western economies, because if it's happening in the UK,

1590
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: it's happening here, it's happening in America, it's happening in

1591
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: Australia and everywhere. Because trouble is, we need these little

1592
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: guys to keep paying for our you know, working to

1593
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: pay for our pensions. So sort it out, mum and dad,

1594
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: because they are our workers of the future. Police fix

1595
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: it for us. Got a little next news too.

1596
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 16: Zitbeat.

1597
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic,

1598
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with the defender embraced the impossible news.

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: Togsad b hither you are the most shameless generational traitor ever.

1600
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: You run down our generation just for engagement bait from

1601
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: the boomers.

1602
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 4: Ghoul.

1603
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm look, I'm flattered that you think that I am

1604
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: Generation Z, but I will remind you Generation Z is

1605
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: currently aged between what's sixteen and twenty four? So I

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: missed that by m I mean like maybe.

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Speaker 10: Twenty just slightly, just you dismissed it, just a.

1608
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: Casual twenty years but a look, never mind, and anyway,

1609
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: look for being a traitor, I am a traitor to

1610
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: the millennials as well, which I am part of because

1611
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, if the shoe fits listen on the trade deal,

1612
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 2: can I just ruin you through? This is really awesome.

1613
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: Got the strongest hint yet that afraid trade deal between

1614
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: ourselves and India might actually be signed next year because

1615
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: the Trade Minister Tom McClay was speaking at a business

1616
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: council thing the Indian New Zealand Business Council event Friday

1617
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: evening in Auckland and said he thinks it's going to

1618
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: be signed next year. This is lining up with what

1619
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: business desk is hearing from a whole bunch of sources

1620
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: that it looks like next year and what that means

1621
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: is that Luxon goes to India maybe in January. I

1622
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: think it's January next year rather than January twenty seven,

1623
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: and Mody makes a trip over here. So that is

1624
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: very very big news. Twenty two away from.

1625
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 12: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1626
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 12: mind for New Zealand business.

1627
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Speaker 2: Rod Little, UK correspondent is with us right now.

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Speaker 3: Hi there, rod Hi, I had a good talk.

1629
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, mate. Listen, how do you

1630
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: think that meeting went for Zelenski at number ten?

1631
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 15: Well that was a number ten about as well for

1632
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 15: Zelensky as it could go. But he is, as Donald

1633
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 15: Trump keeps telling him, has no cards. The only cards

1634
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 15: he has are Europe basically, and Europe is still firmly

1635
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 15: behind Ukraine, but it doesn't have the muscle to back

1636
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 15: that up. So this was a meeting with Sakir Starmarrimanuel Macrol,

1637
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 15: Friedrich Metz and Vladimir Vladimir is Zelensky and Vlaelenski says

1638
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 15: Ukraine can't manage without European and American support. And these

1639
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 15: were builders kind of crisis talks. Given the Trump has

1640
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 15: been snippy again about Zelensky and said that Puden seems

1641
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 15: to us to have accepted the deal, which he hasn't done,

1642
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 15: of course, which is the other problem. But what Starmer said,

1643
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 15: and what I think you're going to hear from the

1644
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 15: French and Germans is somewhere a little short of no,

1645
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 15: Zelensky mustn't keep up any land. I think you're not

1646
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 15: going to hear that. Starma was effusive in his praise

1647
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 15: of Donald Trump for attempting to find a peaceful settlement,

1648
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 15: but said that Ukraine shouldn't be left behind, must be supported,

1649
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 15: and that Putin mustn't be allowed to win, but came

1650
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 15: a long way short of giving the kind of unequivocal

1651
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 15: backing which undoubtedly Zelensky wants.

1652
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: What do you think, rod is the most likely outcome

1653
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: here is that Zelensky gives up all the land that

1654
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: Pusan wants, or does he just give up a.

1655
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: Portion of it?

1656
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 15: I think probably the majority of it. I think kind

1657
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 15: of Crimea is a foregone conclusion, isn't it. And there

1658
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 15: is a very very strong argument to say that in

1659
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 15: any case Crimea should be part of Russia, given its

1660
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 15: ethnic population, given the long historic alliance between Crimea and Moscow.

1661
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 15: The one sticky area, the one area where perhaps Selensky

1662
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 15: can get something back, is on don Bass, where again

1663
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 15: there's a very large Russian speaking population. But he does

1664
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 15: have more moral and kind of philosophical and moral claim

1665
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 15: over the area. But how it will all end, God

1666
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 15: only knows. All of it will depend on the end

1667
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 15: on Vladimir Putin, which is not the best of all

1668
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 15: possible options, is it.

1669
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Now I see the Scottish news

1670
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 2: at the center of the strange gender round seems to

1671
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: have won a little bit of a victorysity.

1672
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 15: She has, indeed, and I broke open the champagne a

1673
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 15: short while ago. There's just me here, but I thought

1674
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 15: i'd toast her in kind of private. Yeah. I mean

1675
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 15: everything has changed in this country as a consequence of

1676
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 15: the Supreme Court decision of April the sixteenth this year,

1677
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 15: which made it quite clear that in legal purposes woman

1678
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 15: meant a biological female, and that has changed everything. There

1679
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 15: are still plenty of people who resisted, including those from

1680
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:06,480
Speaker 15: the NHS service in Fife in Scotland, which relentlessly persecuted

1681
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 15: this poor woman Sandy Peggy, a nurse who objected to

1682
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 15: having a bloke changing in her changing room. You know,

1683
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 15: she said, I don't want to do this, and they

1684
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 15: persecuted her and persecuted her, and now they've been done

1685
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 15: for it, and there will be some settlement, as in

1686
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 15: the Scottish legal system, will go later to a settlement

1687
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 15: which will give her some money. But that's not the point.

1688
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 15: It's a moral issue. But we had last week the

1689
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 15: Girl Guides Association and the Women's Institute, both of whom

1690
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 15: still cleave to the delusion that a transgendered woman is

1691
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 15: actually a real woman. They're still cleaning to that, but

1692
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 15: accepting the law and saying that henceforth only women, biological

1693
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 15: women will be allowed into the Guides and the Women's Institute.

1694
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 15: So that Supreme Court decision has been game changer. And

1695
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 15: here's my guest, because I don't believe that the law

1696
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 15: is always pristine and dolliest and beyond a political bias.

1697
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 15: I don't think the Supreme Court decision would have come

1698
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 15: to that decision. The Supreme Court would have come to

1699
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 15: that decision four years ago. You know, I think there's

1700
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 15: been a whole seed change on the issue here and

1701
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 15: that's part of it.

1702
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I quite agree with you.

1703
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 12: Rod.

1704
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: Always lovely to chat, to enjoy those bubbles. That's Rod Little,

1705
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: UK correspondent on the subject of the UK be something

1706
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: of a win for Prince Harry as well because he's

1707
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: won a battle to get a full security risk assessment

1708
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 2: done by the UK government. Now this has been long standing,

1709
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: ongoing and it seemed to have died of death in public,

1710
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: but on the quiet he's still been going at it.

1711
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 2: And basically how if you don't remember how it started,

1712
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: was because when he fled with MiGs, it with what

1713
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: sourface he left the Royals, they basically they got snippy

1714
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,440
Speaker 2: with them and they cut him off for his security,

1715
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: which was a wild thing to do actually, because whether

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Speaker 2: you like him or not, the guy is at risk, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's given the highest risk category, probably because

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Speaker 2: he runs his mouth off and does stupid things like

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Speaker 2: runs off with Megan Markle and and the other people

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Speaker 2: in the category at the time were like to raise

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Speaker 2: a may the Prime Minister, then the Queen who is

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Speaker 2: the monarch at the time. So you know, if he's

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Speaker 2: up there with those two, he's really at a fair

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Speaker 2: bit of risk anyway, he's been quite fighting it on

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Speaker 2: the quiet. Still, It's been reported that he was told

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Speaker 2: on Friday that the Royal and the VIP Executive Committee

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Speaker 2: which they call RAVAK, which is the Home Office committee

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Speaker 2: responsible for decisions like this, this has changed. Tech has

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Speaker 2: instructed its risk management board to reassess his threat level

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Speaker 2: for the first time in nearly six years. The good

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Speaker 2: news for him, of course, is if they ressess, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: this could be part of him making up with Charles

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Speaker 2: with dad. If they reassess it, if they say yep,

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Speaker 2: you need security, may open the door to him bringing

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Speaker 2: the family over to come and see because I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if Granddad's met the grandkids, but they might

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Speaker 2: open that door and there might be a bit of

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Speaker 2: a reconciliation. So fingers crossed for him, because that was

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Speaker 2: a bit of a crime against him.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks that Be.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has just he's just in the middle of

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Speaker 2: hosting an economic focus roundtable at the where the White

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01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: House and just basically telling us everything that they've decided.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things is that he is committed

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Speaker 2: to tackling affordability, even though of course Donald Trump doesn't

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Speaker 2: think there is an affordability crisis.

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Speaker 14: Affordability, but you can call it affordability or anything you want.

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Speaker 14: But the Democrats caused the affordability problem, and we're the

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Speaker 14: ones that are fixing it. So it's a very simple statement.

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Speaker 14: They caused it, we're fixing it. And they have a

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Speaker 14: tendency to just say this election is based on affordability,

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Speaker 14: and nobody questions him, you know, nobody says, well, what

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Speaker 14: do you mean by that, But they just say the word.

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Speaker 14: They never said anything else because they caused the problem.

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Speaker 14: But we're fixing the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, the tariffs are brought in a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of money to the American economy, and as a result,

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Speaker 2: he can now pay farmers all the money he's got.

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Speaker 14: We're taking in billions, were really get in trillions of

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Speaker 14: dollars if you think about it, Scott, because the real numbers,

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Speaker 14: you know, when you think of all the money being

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Speaker 14: poured into the country for new auto plants and all

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Speaker 14: of the other things.

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Speaker 16: AI.

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Speaker 14: So what we're doing is we're taking a relatively small portion.

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Speaker 22: Of that and we're going to be giving and providing

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Speaker 22: it to the farmers in economic assistance. And we love

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Speaker 22: our farmers, and as you know, the farmers like me

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Speaker 22: because you know, based on voting trends. You could coote

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Speaker 22: voting trends or anything else, but they're great people.

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Speaker 4: They are the backbone of our country.

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Speaker 14: So we're going to use that money to provide twelve

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Speaker 14: billion dollars in economic assistance to American farmers. Twelve billion

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Speaker 14: is a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the twelve billion is obviously needed because the

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Speaker 2: tariffs are just working so well amazing. Now, The Economist

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Speaker 2: has revealed its list of the best performing countries across

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Speaker 2: the rich world. I'm sorry to tell I'm going to

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Speaker 2: run you through this really quickly. I'm sorry to tell

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Speaker 2: you we're in the bottom six. So it is not

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Speaker 2: a surprise. Look whatever, it's going to get better next year.

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Speaker 2: This is just this is We've already been through this.

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Speaker 2: It's onwards and upwards from here. So thirty six in

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Speaker 2: the in the list in total, we're number thirty one,

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Speaker 2: so it goes US, Lithuania, Austria, Estonia, Finland, Slovakia. Australia

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Speaker 2: is middle of the pack at eighteen. Top of the

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Speaker 2: pack with number one Portugal, then Ireland, then Israel. Then

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Speaker 2: in fourth place shared are Columbia and Spain, and then

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Speaker 2: sixth place shared Czech Republican Greece. Now how the economist

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Speaker 2: does this. They've done it for about I think it's

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Speaker 2: about five years now. They measure five different indicators inflation, inflation, breadth, GDP, jobs,

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Speaker 2: stock market performance through the aggregate of it, and then

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Speaker 2: they rank the countries. What's let us down is jobs

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Speaker 2: because there's been a one point three percent rise in unemployment,

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Speaker 2: our GDP being rubbish, and then a very small increase

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Speaker 2: in share prices. They say it's about three percent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: compare that to for example, Israel that's at fifty three

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Speaker 2: percent increase in their share prices. Good for us though,

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Speaker 2: inflation which has come right back, so that helped us

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. Right at the top, Portugil, what's

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Speaker 2: going right for them is combined strong growth at GDP

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Speaker 2: growth that's about two point four percent, low inflation, buoyant

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Speaker 2: stock market they're going up at twenty one percent. Tourism

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Speaker 2: has boomed, Plenty of rich foreigners are moving to the

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Speaker 2: country as well to take advantage of low taxes and

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Speaker 2: the GDP. That number I gave you is above average

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Speaker 2: for the European area. The Czech Republican Columbia also post

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Speaker 2: decent increases in both output and employment, pushing them into

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Speaker 2: the top third of the ranking. So I am picking

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Speaker 2: that this has been our horrible year. So I'm picking

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Speaker 2: next year you're going to be going up that list.

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Speaker 2: I'll look forward to it. Nine away from nine Heather.

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Speaker 1: Do Pussy Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with Alvida Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News tog sad b Hi.

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Speaker 2: Here the Tori Fano presenting a petition to the Green

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Speaker 2: Party about politicians behavior has got to be the funniest

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Speaker 2: news of the year. Richard, thank you, actually, Richard, thank

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Speaker 2: you for drawing that to my attention, because this was

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Speaker 2: completely outside my orbit of what's going on in my life.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, at eleven o'clock today there will be a

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Speaker 2: handover of a petition calling on the ministers in Chris

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Speaker 2: low Well, basically calling on Chris Luxen to take control

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Speaker 2: of his government and take responsibility and stop the ministers

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Speaker 2: from I don't know, breaching ministerial I don't know standards.

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Speaker 2: What is it. It's a problem with apparently disinformation, harassing

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01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: other people in sewing division for political gain and apparently

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01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: David Seymour and Winnipee are the worst at it, which

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: is like lola la la lol, because how about you

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: pay your HOSPR your restaurant bill before you start telling

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Speaker 2: other people, and maybe don't tell FIBs about having to

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01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 2: sell your car for paying your mortgage. And when you

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Speaker 2: finished doing that, then we can talk about this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Five away from nine.

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Speaker 13: Trending now the warehouse, the real house of fragrances.

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Speaker 2: So Dave Portnoy has found himself in a little bit

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Speaker 2: of trouble. Raiders v. Broncos. Yesterday the Broncos well won

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seventeen, but right at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game, the Raiders kicked a field goal, which meant

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Speaker 2: that the overall points scored was outside the betting margin.

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Speaker 2: It also meant that Portnoy lost two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars and he immediately took to Twitter or x

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Speaker 2: or whatever to let everyone know.

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Speaker 14: That's the worst feed of all time and will you

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Speaker 14: have to investigate the Raiders, and that investigates the Raiders,

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Speaker 14: what are they doing?

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Speaker 6: That's the worst beet.

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Speaker 16: Of all time?

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Speaker 2: That is cheating.

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Speaker 6: Pete Carroll should be in prison.

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Speaker 11: Prison for Pete Carroll, the reps, everybody, this is prison.

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Speaker 3: This is prison.

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Speaker 8: They fightd the ball by the way, they ran up

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Speaker 8: and spiked it.

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Speaker 12: As a templar prison Pete Carroll murder Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, that last bit didn't go down very well,

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Speaker 2: did it, Because this is the same guy who's been

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Speaker 2: on Fox the last few months talking about threats against

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01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Jews and how no one should be threatening them. So

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Speaker 2: he's apologized and he said he and his company are

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Speaker 2: anti murder, which is I mean, you know, like.

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Speaker 10: You gotta not all companies are anti murder, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I think that I would be fair. I think I

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Speaker 2: would react much the same way if I lost two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Heather December eighth, and New York.

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Speaker 2: Forty five years since John Lennon was killed, as it

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Speaker 2: worth a mention, Yes, it is forty five years since

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Speaker 2: John Lennon was murdered. Also, if we're going to do

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Speaker 2: today's date, though, I mean Jim Morrison's birth. First issue

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Speaker 2: of the New Zealand's Women's Weekly was sent out in

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty two. I think it was distributed basically to

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Speaker 2: lift everyone's lift the spirit of women during the depression,

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Speaker 2: which frankly magazine would have done that. It was a

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Speaker 2: low web and we went to war in nineteen forty

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Speaker 2: one with Japan, so there you go, bag old day

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Speaker 2: in history. Well, good luck, sir Chris Luxen with that

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Speaker 2: pressure on ministerial standards from Tory Fano. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to be under that kind of pressure from somebody like that.

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01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: And also good luck to Chris Bishop and everybody else

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Speaker 2: involved in the RMA reform today, which is going public

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Speaker 2: at one o'clock, oh overdue. Have a nice day.

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