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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 2: So it is six twenty and we welcome to the huddle,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Williams from the taxplayers Unions and Richard Hills and

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Speaker 2: the Orklan City Council. Very good the ads, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the picky, it's the most peculiar and the question lies

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Speaker 2: that a lot of people in New Zealand have turned

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Speaker 2: into humorless whiners. And do you agree with that, Richard?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. The complaints go from the most random round picking

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Speaker 3: you knows, too ridiculous around vibrators and different things around.

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Speaker 4: No, no, it wasn't that it was vibrators, It was

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Speaker 4: the It was the claim that vibrators could help with

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Speaker 4: your marriage, all right. That was what was deemed to

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Speaker 4: be terribly misleading, and the fact.

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Speaker 3: That a Mardi man was driving a car fast was

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Speaker 3: racist and different things. So it is. I think most

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Speaker 3: of them aimed to be humorous, and we're probably tested

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Speaker 3: on audiences and most audiences probably found them quite funny.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon, Jordan?

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah that if I've dealt with it won't

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Speaker 4: come as a surprise. Andrew that the Taxpayers Union, and

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Speaker 4: some of the clients of my digital marketing agency are

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Speaker 4: subject to many a complaint over the years, and Hillary

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Speaker 4: is fantastic to deal with. Unfortunately, though her board, though

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Speaker 4: more and more are sort of leaning into that sort

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Speaker 4: of politically motivated complaints. I'd push back. She made the

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Speaker 4: comment at the end about it being a very open

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Speaker 4: and transparent process. Well, no, not really. They don't disclose

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Speaker 4: to the subject of the complaint, who has complained and

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Speaker 4: what we have faced, And I mean we've literally faced

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Speaker 4: hundreds of them at the Taxpaars Union. We've never lost one,

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Speaker 4: we have settled one. But it's very clear a lot

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Speaker 4: of them are simply complaining for wrong think, and particularly

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Speaker 4: in the area of treaty principles and things like that.

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Speaker 4: It does appear that that sort of unfortunate world you know,

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Speaker 4: our particular worldview, is creeping through and prohibiting what I

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Speaker 4: would consider quite legitimate political call advocacy.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, but I mean we've got the same

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Speaker 2: thing with Nick Smith actually from Nelson actually complaining about

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Speaker 2: the Trump thing about about Lord Lord Rutherford. Of course

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Speaker 2: it happens to be election year as well, but it

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Speaker 2: appears that he's drawn you can. Too many people draw

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Speaker 2: an awfully long bow about what they see in front

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think I think actually short there was

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Speaker 3: Reppayers Alliance did some mans with me just as a clown.

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Speaker 3: You know that. I could have complained about that, but

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Speaker 3: I didn't. There most of them are humor.

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Speaker 4: Sure it was I'm sure you look fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I probably did, and it was probably funny.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't recall that one, but that was it.

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Speaker 3: I probably like the one it was about.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the big story of the day is the inauguration,

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Speaker 2: over the last twelve hours with the inauguration won a

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Speaker 2: long day for Donald Trump, and we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: right after the break.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Elevator Marketing

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Speaker 2: It is a quarter to six and on the Huddle

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Speaker 2: today we've got Jordan Williams at the Taxpayers Union and

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Speaker 2: big story of the day is Donald Trump's inauguration. Now,

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Speaker 2: who woke up early to watch the Telly.

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Speaker 4: I did to listen to it, but I left it

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Speaker 2: Can I just say it was a great show, and

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Speaker 2: I actually thought it was a brilliant inauguration and I

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Speaker 4: It was much more specific in terms of his policies

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Speaker 4: I'm going to do as opposed to visionary and a

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Speaker 4: little bit sort of political airy fairy. But then that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone's getting what they You know, if

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Speaker 3: If you love him, you're loving it. I think America

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Speaker 4: Panama back to the advertising at doing what it says

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Panama Canal and the Gulf of Mexico,

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Speaker 3: What I can't understand is if you look across the polling,

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Speaker 3: And we just know that the tariffs, if you look

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Speaker 3: So it's it is going to be interesting to watch,

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Speaker 4: And this was the argument that the lost opportunity for

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Speaker 2: This is true, but at the same time, there is

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Speaker 4: I mean, our biggest geopolitical risk other than Ukraine and

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the attitude that New Zealander should take towards

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Speaker 2: Johnald Trump, you know, some people go, we should not

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Speaker 2: talk to him at all. That person is racist and

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Speaker 2: sexist and all that. But you know that's what the

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Speaker 2: His approval ratings after day fifty nine percent. So Americans

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Speaker 3: Oh, everyone got the right to say whatever they want.

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Speaker 3: I think we've found that out with Trump. But I

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Speaker 3: congratulating him. Of course we're going to congratulate him like

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Speaker 3: I mean, you do have to work with him. This

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Speaker 3: they would be saying congratulations Donald Trump as well. You

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Speaker 3: but you do have to call out the stuff that

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Speaker 4: And also the middle has shifted significantly. I was in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gets you. And I saw somebody who has texted

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, there ain't anybody better. In fact,

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Speaker 2: But you know, then you get certain things. He's decided

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Speaker 2: to pardon instantly. Fifteen hundred people who stormed the rotunda

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Speaker 2: we've all seen the telly. Those fifteen hundred people, they're

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Speaker 4: Trumps in it pos on both houses. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Out people know what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people know what he's doing, and he's and he's

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Speaker 4: providing embasty for his members of his own family preemptively.

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Speaker 2: Is that because they've got something to hide?

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Speaker 4: Else would you do it?

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Speaker 4: But always talked up about Trump because of the comment

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Speaker 4: be in prison. But the record speaks for itself. You know,

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Speaker 4: he didn't last time around. Arguably the victim of law

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Speaker 4: Union email me saying that I took the wrong, wrong view.

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Speaker 4: But I think you can acknowledge that there is at

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Speaker 3: That's such a shame. I think the whole system is random.

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Speaker 3: I think the whole system is random. That you're going

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Speaker 4: I think it's a safeguard. We have it. Okay, we

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Speaker 4: have it in our constitutional monarchy as well of pardons.

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, I'm about to talk about how the best way

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Speaker 2: to get a job, because it's hard to get a

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Speaker 2: job at the moment, and of course are employers in

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Speaker 4: It's been half today work through CVS. It's tailoring your

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Speaker 2: I have to ten thousand people. You employed ten thousand people.

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Speaker 3: beck you up.

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Speaker 2: Go, Sir Richard Hills and Jordan Williams.

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