1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:14,973 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Me, So Homemack. 3 00:00:14,853 --> 00:00:20,893 Speaker 2: Reading, home man dreaming, Let you find your own way 4 00:00:20,933 --> 00:00:37,573 Speaker 2: back to me, because there's only you. You, You are you, 5 00:00:37,573 --> 00:00:41,653 Speaker 2: You are there is you You. 6 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:45,893 Speaker 3: I am loving the vocals here. This is all there is. 7 00:00:45,973 --> 00:00:49,173 Speaker 3: This is a new song by Corella. It is off 8 00:00:49,213 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 3: their brand new album they've just released, Skeletons and tell 9 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:53,733 Speaker 3: Me watch thanks of it. 10 00:00:53,893 --> 00:00:57,613 Speaker 4: We're joined by Estelle Clifford. Good morning, Da Francesca. 11 00:00:58,133 --> 00:01:01,013 Speaker 5: Isn't it just a beautiful as jealous of people who 12 00:01:01,013 --> 00:01:04,053 Speaker 5: can just stram the guitar so beautifully and then the 13 00:01:04,253 --> 00:01:07,253 Speaker 5: wire across it, You're like, oh, just falling in love 14 00:01:07,613 --> 00:01:11,173 Speaker 5: with those vocals and him as he sings, and Corella 15 00:01:11,213 --> 00:01:14,613 Speaker 5: are really really good at that kind of thing, that simple, 16 00:01:15,013 --> 00:01:18,813 Speaker 5: beautiful melody, and then suddenly all those layers you hear 17 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:22,213 Speaker 5: underneath it with a percussion, like the whole this whole 18 00:01:22,213 --> 00:01:24,973 Speaker 5: album has got really great production, and then some are 19 00:01:25,013 --> 00:01:28,173 Speaker 5: really you know, that paired that kind of beautiful singing, 20 00:01:28,893 --> 00:01:31,253 Speaker 5: and then suddenly you've got like the full horn. 21 00:01:31,013 --> 00:01:34,493 Speaker 4: Section there all go yeah, yeah. 22 00:01:33,973 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 5: Bringing in that first of all vibe and I think 23 00:01:36,293 --> 00:01:38,613 Speaker 5: when you can sing that's the bird a like, that's 24 00:01:38,613 --> 00:01:40,613 Speaker 5: the bit that's going to capture everybody. If you've got 25 00:01:40,653 --> 00:01:44,293 Speaker 5: great vocals, then I reckon you're gonna draw people into 26 00:01:44,293 --> 00:01:45,813 Speaker 5: your to your album what you've got going on. 27 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:49,133 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, that totally got me there. Yeah, But I 28 00:01:49,333 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 3: think that's also great to know because I think we 29 00:01:52,093 --> 00:01:54,573 Speaker 3: people might be more familiar with some of the more upbeat, 30 00:01:54,653 --> 00:01:55,613 Speaker 3: full on tracks. 31 00:01:55,893 --> 00:01:59,293 Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, And they're on this album, Skeletons covers all 32 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:02,333 Speaker 5: of that, and it starts with that. You know, you've 33 00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:06,333 Speaker 5: got those big, huge summer big horn section and then 34 00:02:06,493 --> 00:02:09,813 Speaker 5: the big percussion comes in and all the voices singing 35 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:14,093 Speaker 5: at once. So they've got that reggae dub soul funk 36 00:02:14,173 --> 00:02:15,853 Speaker 5: kind of thing going on where you can party and 37 00:02:15,933 --> 00:02:18,173 Speaker 5: dance along. But I sort of think they've also got 38 00:02:18,173 --> 00:02:20,493 Speaker 5: this awesome set in their album where you know those 39 00:02:20,533 --> 00:02:22,213 Speaker 5: bits where everyone just needs to take a little bit 40 00:02:22,253 --> 00:02:23,613 Speaker 5: of a quiet moment and love each other. 41 00:02:25,253 --> 00:02:27,053 Speaker 4: Hey, tell me a little bit about these guys. I'm 42 00:02:27,093 --> 00:02:28,293 Speaker 4: not usually familiar with them. 43 00:02:28,613 --> 00:02:33,853 Speaker 5: Yeah, So Peepee, pharo Rawer and Tenaware they actually met 44 00:02:33,893 --> 00:02:38,533 Speaker 5: in the Royal New Zealand a navy, so they're Navy people. 45 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:42,253 Speaker 5: I think Tenaware, if I'm correct, is still in the Navy. 46 00:02:42,373 --> 00:02:45,373 Speaker 5: So they actually started doing like a band that did 47 00:02:45,373 --> 00:02:48,973 Speaker 5: pub covers. So if you can master that and get 48 00:02:48,973 --> 00:02:50,813 Speaker 5: everyone on the dance floor, I reckon it's a great 49 00:02:50,813 --> 00:02:53,453 Speaker 5: place to start. But they went to one of the 50 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:56,173 Speaker 5: One Love festivals, and I think that was the draw 51 00:02:56,293 --> 00:02:59,093 Speaker 5: card for them, where they're like, actually, we could probably 52 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:02,373 Speaker 5: start writing and creating our own music and get up 53 00:03:02,373 --> 00:03:06,253 Speaker 5: on that stage. Like a cool background to have doing 54 00:03:06,413 --> 00:03:08,533 Speaker 5: those bands that go in through the pubs and stuff 55 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:11,093 Speaker 5: and make everyone happy. But then to start believing in 56 00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:13,413 Speaker 5: yourself and writing your own music and your own stories. 57 00:03:14,173 --> 00:03:16,173 Speaker 5: That was the instigator I think for them at the 58 00:03:16,213 --> 00:03:18,893 Speaker 5: One Love Festival, and then pretty much over the last 59 00:03:18,893 --> 00:03:23,013 Speaker 5: three years they have just been working, working, working, working 60 00:03:23,653 --> 00:03:28,893 Speaker 5: to really solidify what their sound is. They won a 61 00:03:28,933 --> 00:03:33,533 Speaker 5: couple of awards at the old Tedler Music Awards. Was 62 00:03:33,573 --> 00:03:38,173 Speaker 5: that last year. I think it was a wasn't it Yeah, Yeah, 63 00:03:38,213 --> 00:03:41,013 Speaker 5: So they won for one of their big singles, blue 64 00:03:41,053 --> 00:03:43,973 Speaker 5: Eyed Mardy beautiful song and really great and also with 65 00:03:44,013 --> 00:03:47,413 Speaker 5: that slight Mardi Humor, and then also one of the 66 00:03:47,413 --> 00:03:51,053 Speaker 5: Breakthrough Artist Awards, So that sort of helps write catapult you. 67 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:53,893 Speaker 5: And I've heard a few interviews with them where they're like, well, 68 00:03:54,213 --> 00:03:55,893 Speaker 5: this is the bit to remind you that all that 69 00:03:55,973 --> 00:03:59,013 Speaker 5: hard mahi, all that hard work does pay off because 70 00:03:59,053 --> 00:04:01,133 Speaker 5: suddenly you're starting to get recognition for what you do. 71 00:04:01,293 --> 00:04:03,333 Speaker 5: But it also gives you that fizz to be like, yeah, 72 00:04:03,413 --> 00:04:06,133 Speaker 5: let's keep working and creating more. And I think what 73 00:04:06,133 --> 00:04:10,333 Speaker 5: they're done with this album is really played and discovered 74 00:04:10,373 --> 00:04:13,053 Speaker 5: more of what their sound can be. I mean, they're 75 00:04:13,093 --> 00:04:17,653 Speaker 5: all extremely talented musicians, so they can probably do whatever 76 00:04:17,693 --> 00:04:21,333 Speaker 5: they want to be fair, but really sticking with that cool, 77 00:04:21,453 --> 00:04:25,813 Speaker 5: summer festival, fun, upbeat kind of vibe. There's a bit 78 00:04:25,813 --> 00:04:29,493 Speaker 5: of probably a political social commentary in some of the songs. 79 00:04:30,133 --> 00:04:34,013 Speaker 5: One's called Cookie. I was listening to it being like, wow, 80 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:36,373 Speaker 5: Cookie's really getting his beans, and then I realized they're 81 00:04:36,413 --> 00:04:40,733 Speaker 5: talking about Captain Cook, so we've all got our version 82 00:04:40,773 --> 00:04:44,213 Speaker 5: of history and how to tell that story. But it's 83 00:04:44,253 --> 00:04:48,413 Speaker 5: a really really catchy song and I liked it, but 84 00:04:48,493 --> 00:04:50,693 Speaker 5: I think there's, yeah, it's an interesting one to listen 85 00:04:50,693 --> 00:04:54,653 Speaker 5: to it. There's also a song called two Chure, and 86 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:56,973 Speaker 5: I figure that if someone can sing I'm too sexy, 87 00:04:57,053 --> 00:05:00,293 Speaker 5: then why can't you sing I'm too chuur, I'm to chur. 88 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:06,533 Speaker 5: It's so good, Like there's those beautiful Kiwi colloquialisms. It's 89 00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:08,733 Speaker 5: just beautiful that you find on this album. And it 90 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:11,053 Speaker 5: made me laugh and smile, and I'm like, that's a 91 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:14,253 Speaker 5: wonderful thing that music can do as well as celebrating, 92 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:17,693 Speaker 5: you know, a really upbeat kind of vibe about someone. 93 00:05:17,973 --> 00:05:19,573 Speaker 4: Still, this is the second album, isn't it. 94 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:19,933 Speaker 3: Yeah? 95 00:05:19,933 --> 00:05:22,853 Speaker 4: It is, so you've seen quite a step up. Do 96 00:05:22,893 --> 00:05:24,733 Speaker 4: you think between that first and the second album? 97 00:05:25,093 --> 00:05:26,533 Speaker 5: I think someone, Do you know what I think it 98 00:05:26,573 --> 00:05:30,053 Speaker 5: is is confidence in what you're writing. That's often the 99 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:32,813 Speaker 5: change that I think happens to people across their albums. 100 00:05:33,053 --> 00:05:36,053 Speaker 5: They start with something and it's beautiful and it's nice. 101 00:05:36,093 --> 00:05:40,213 Speaker 5: But I think that evolution and the hard work is going. Actually, 102 00:05:40,853 --> 00:05:44,613 Speaker 5: we can push that further. We can add more layers here, 103 00:05:44,693 --> 00:05:48,133 Speaker 5: we can use our vocals differently, we can write our 104 00:05:48,253 --> 00:05:52,453 Speaker 5: stories from our perspective, and that's what people follow artists for, 105 00:05:52,693 --> 00:05:55,613 Speaker 5: right to hear their version of something doesn't necessarily have 106 00:05:55,693 --> 00:05:58,053 Speaker 5: to be your version of something. But we can all 107 00:05:58,133 --> 00:06:00,893 Speaker 5: learn from there and grow, and I think as artists 108 00:06:00,933 --> 00:06:03,533 Speaker 5: that's really nice to hear them have that confidence to 109 00:06:03,573 --> 00:06:04,053 Speaker 5: do that too. 110 00:06:04,853 --> 00:06:07,893 Speaker 4: Why does the the whole reggae thing sort of resonate 111 00:06:07,973 --> 00:06:09,213 Speaker 4: so much in New Zealand. 112 00:06:09,413 --> 00:06:12,373 Speaker 5: It's really interesting because we have a real do you know. 113 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:14,293 Speaker 5: I think we just all actually really love singer, brass 114 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:18,213 Speaker 5: and horn section. It's pretty sexy when someone's up there 115 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:20,693 Speaker 5: with the trump today. Maybe there's a bit of that. 116 00:06:21,013 --> 00:06:24,493 Speaker 5: I think it has a positive, fun sound. I think 117 00:06:24,533 --> 00:06:28,453 Speaker 5: culturally it's something that we can really embrace. We all 118 00:06:28,493 --> 00:06:30,293 Speaker 5: obviously like to shake our booty a little bit. 119 00:06:30,413 --> 00:06:33,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, just suits the vibe. 120 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:34,733 Speaker 5: It does, I think. And it also you know a 121 00:06:34,773 --> 00:06:37,573 Speaker 5: lot of our musicians do have a background in jazz 122 00:06:38,253 --> 00:06:40,733 Speaker 5: and soul, and I think that's part of an evolution 123 00:06:40,813 --> 00:06:46,173 Speaker 5: of that music working together. Good musicianship, right, absolutely, because 124 00:06:46,213 --> 00:06:48,693 Speaker 5: those are the foundations to being able to play any chord, 125 00:06:49,093 --> 00:06:52,293 Speaker 5: being able to push your vocals, play with your voice, 126 00:06:52,293 --> 00:06:56,053 Speaker 5: play with your instruments. Those foundations, you know, then open 127 00:06:56,093 --> 00:06:57,493 Speaker 5: you up to stuff and there's kind of you know, 128 00:06:57,533 --> 00:07:00,333 Speaker 5: on this album, there is that reggae thing. They've gone 129 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:03,133 Speaker 5: a bit pop. Sometimes there's a bit of rock, and 130 00:07:03,453 --> 00:07:05,573 Speaker 5: I think again, if you've got those foundations, that kind 131 00:07:05,573 --> 00:07:08,533 Speaker 5: of work together. Also, there's just something beautiful about positive, 132 00:07:08,573 --> 00:07:09,693 Speaker 5: happy sounding music. 133 00:07:11,013 --> 00:07:12,893 Speaker 4: Wrap it up for me? What we're going to rate 134 00:07:12,973 --> 00:07:13,893 Speaker 4: the sumber. 135 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:16,253 Speaker 5: Oh this was so hard for me, Francesca. This is 136 00:07:16,253 --> 00:07:18,333 Speaker 5: the hardest burd of anyone of you who as opposed 137 00:07:18,373 --> 00:07:21,933 Speaker 5: to talking everybody up supporting Lab across this summer tour 138 00:07:22,213 --> 00:07:24,933 Speaker 5: nine shows. I think you're gonna love this album. I'm 139 00:07:24,973 --> 00:07:27,013 Speaker 5: just gonna go with a ten out of ten for 140 00:07:28,013 --> 00:07:30,533 Speaker 5: beautiful sounds and voices amazing. 141 00:07:30,733 --> 00:07:33,693 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Estelle. I always love Estelle's positivity 142 00:07:33,693 --> 00:07:34,253 Speaker 4: around these things. 143 00:07:34,293 --> 00:07:36,773 Speaker 3: We're going to play a little bit more from Corella 144 00:07:36,813 --> 00:07:38,293 Speaker 3: after the break. 145 00:07:38,413 --> 00:07:40,573 Speaker 4: It is eight to twelve. 146 00:07:41,213 --> 00:07:44,293 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 147 00:07:44,373 --> 00:07:47,213 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 148 00:07:47,293 --> 00:07:49,133 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.