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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 1: News Talks, head be Ueen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Today is ther day and what intact it has on

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Speaker 3: the economy Heading into the holidays. More doctors and nurses

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Speaker 3: are coming, genetics modification. We have a look at a

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Speaker 3: new report and about Mark and Jenny politics Wednesday after late,

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Speaker 4: They will surprise you as well. Hosky, Welcome to the

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Speaker 4: middle of the week, seven past six. I'm afraid to

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Speaker 4: say that the cash rate announcement today from our good

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Speaker 4: friends and visionaries at the Reserve Bank might not be

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Speaker 4: the same excitement level as the first one. So if

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Speaker 4: you remember when the prospect of a cut first emerged,

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Speaker 4: there was a palpable lift in the mood based around

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Speaker 4: the idea that cutting was good news, and the good

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Speaker 4: news was driven by the fact the worst was over.

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Speaker 4: I think at that point many assumed that a lot

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Speaker 4: of other stuff would follow. Sadly, it doesn't appear to have.

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Speaker 4: We will get another cut today and the consensus seems

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Speaker 4: to be it'll be fifty points gold Blessed. Greg Smith

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Speaker 4: at Deboni's with us in a moment for a seventy

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Speaker 4: five point campaign, And oh how I wish he was right,

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Speaker 4: because he is right what he sees, he's not making up.

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Speaker 4: And as a result, this economy of ours needs a

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Speaker 4: good stick of dynamite under it. But fifty, it appears

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Speaker 4: it will be also coming. With the number is the

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Speaker 4: full barrage of commentary, and this is the bit the

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Speaker 4: wonks will pour over looking for clues about what lies ahead.

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Speaker 4: The tragedy is instead of a bounce, we seem to

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Speaker 4: have a stalling. Maybe it's a delayed reaction. Maybe the

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Speaker 4: bounce will come. But increasingly the banks see not just

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Speaker 4: confirmation of the recession for Q three but also Q

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Speaker 4: four that could be backwards as well. That, by the way,

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Speaker 4: would be seven out of eight quarters from the past

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Speaker 4: two years going in the wrong direction. No other country

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Speaker 4: we compare ourselves too, has managed anything close to that.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five has growth, they say, but barely. It's

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Speaker 4: not until twenty twenty six we start to see what

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Speaker 4: most of us would argue with some sort of normal

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Speaker 4: in the GDP department. Other countries, I mean, the likes

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Speaker 4: of Australia, the likes of the United States haven't had

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Speaker 4: a single recession, far less three and because of that,

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Speaker 4: their jobs market has remained solid, the spending has remained decent. Enough.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible? Is it possible we've had it so

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Speaker 4: bad we can't shake ourselves loose? The RB argument is

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Speaker 4: inflations under control, we can cut rates. Now, get on

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Speaker 4: with it. Is it the getting on with it that

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Speaker 4: we're afraid of? Have we been shell shocked so badly?

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Speaker 4: Not many actually want to take the first step. And

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Speaker 4: if that's the case, what does that say about the

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Speaker 4: political and fiscal management of this country?

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 4: We are they say, standing by proceeds fire between Israel

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Speaker 4: and Lebanon. But meantime, now, what were the Israelis targeting?

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Speaker 5: Has bela aerial defense unit center and intelligence center, command

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Speaker 5: center's weapons storage facilities and operations room and artillery storage

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Speaker 5: facility and terrorist infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: So you can stop pulling the trigger and agreed, this

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Speaker 4: is what it looks like.

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Speaker 6: The bombing has to stop on both sides, but particularly

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Speaker 6: Israeli overflight. His one lat is meant to move away

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Speaker 6: from the border zone. The Lebanese Minister of Foreign Affairs

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Speaker 6: said that there would be a surge of five thousand

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Speaker 4: Although he isn't actually in the job yet. Tom Homan,

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Speaker 4: whose trumps new borders are He's up to the border.

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Speaker 7: We're not waiting. In January twentieth, we're already planning or

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Speaker 7: what we're going to do to lock down the state

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Speaker 7: of Texas. Governor Abbits and a great jobs of our

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Speaker 7: luck here we go. Crossings in Texas is down a

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Speaker 7: really percent because of great work by Governor Rabbit.

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Speaker 4: Then a Britain couple of things. One, having told you

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Speaker 4: yesterday there are a million people on benefits literally doing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Liz has a plan.

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Speaker 8: This white paper starts to turn the corner on the

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Speaker 8: last fourteen years, putting forward the real reforms. We need

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Speaker 8: to get.

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Speaker 9: More people into work and all not work to give

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Speaker 9: young people the very best start in life.

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Speaker 4: Then two we come to John. John was the oldest

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Speaker 4: man in the world and he's just died. But before

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Speaker 4: he they asked him the usual question.

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Speaker 10: Too much are you we too? Won't? Oh you war too?

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Speaker 11: What?

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Speaker 4: Too too much of anything? Suffer eventu words of wisdom.

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Speaker 4: Finally we have dictionary dot COM's word of the year.

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Speaker 4: It is demure. It beat out of the contenders. We

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Speaker 4: had bratt, brain, rotten, weird. Between jan and August this year,

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Speaker 4: demur was used twelve hundred percent more, largely thanks to

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Speaker 4: a TikToker who was fantastically annoying. Usually demurs used to

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Speaker 4: describe the scriptant was their behavior, but had taken on

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Speaker 4: a new life as a word associated with the person's

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Speaker 4: appearance and the way they act in public. That's not

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Speaker 4: the best word of the year. There's another word of

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Speaker 4: the year. I get a better word of the year

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Speaker 4: later that as new as the world of words in ninety.

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Speaker 4: In the meantime, eld John John Tinner's wood is his

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Speaker 4: name so no longer the world's oldest living person. We

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Speaker 4: don't know who the new oldest person is. He was

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Speaker 4: one hundred and twelve. He was in his Southport care home.

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Speaker 4: Lifelong Liverpool fan. He replaced one Vincente Parez Moro, who

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Speaker 4: died earlier this year at one hundred and fourteen. He

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Speaker 4: was born was John twenty six of August nineteen twelve,

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Speaker 4: the same year the Titanic sank unreally twelve past six.

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Speaker 4: It'd be Doug Ford, who was momentarily famous for other

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Speaker 4: reasons that I can tell you about another day if

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Speaker 4: you're interested it anyways, Ontario premieer. He's just gone off

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Speaker 4: about Trump and the tariffs. He says it is devastating

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Speaker 4: quote unquote seven pmsh in Israel blink and says they're

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Speaker 4: into the final stretch. So presumably at some time tonight

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Speaker 4: the Cabinet in Israel's going to vote, and if they do,

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Speaker 4: Greg Smith, Morning to you, Mornings your Mike right, Adrian's listening,

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Speaker 4: he's tuned in, loves the program. Give it to us

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Speaker 4: seventy five points, let's go. He was the fist time.

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Speaker 11: Talking about this early October and was pretty much scoffed

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Speaker 11: at the sedition. Now there's a few more so saying

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Speaker 11: it's it's realistic. So I'm saying it's almost a.

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Speaker 10: Forty percent chance. I'm sure about that.

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Speaker 11: But let's just remind ourselves quickly of the logic. So firstly,

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Speaker 11: their mandate was changed last year to keeping inflation around

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Speaker 10: It is there for the first time.

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Speaker 4: It's March twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 11: We've got non trade war inflation, that's the domestically driven stuff.

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Speaker 11: That's the last in three years. We're core inflation lower

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Speaker 11: So we'll also have inflation domestically lagging the labor market,

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Speaker 11: unemployment that's rising. So you just take all that just

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Speaker 11: look at their secondary objectives. So we with outputting employment.

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Speaker 11: So we've talked about this over the past week or so.

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Speaker 11: So dairy's doing well, the price is there, sort of heading.

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Speaker 10: Towards record highs.

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Speaker 11: else is doing it really tough. So manufacturing sect it's

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Speaker 11: been in recession for twenty months. You make some excellent

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Speaker 11: in a bit of a whole. We've got confidence measures

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Speaker 11: talk about what the Fed is doing. Don't worry about

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Speaker 11: that their economy is growing at three percent. We're in recession.

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Speaker 11: And they meet in December and January, the Fed people

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Speaker 11: You look at China, they are apatche Trump's tariffs and

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Speaker 11: a minute. Migration tale and they disappoint dissipating. The property

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Speaker 11: it's going to flow through pretty quickly. So we've got

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Speaker 11: seventy five percent of new homeland flows currently carrying in

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Speaker 11: periods of one year or less, seventy percent refixing the

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Speaker 11: next nine months and just another point, Mike. Of course,

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Speaker 11: you know the APICENT does take you, I know they

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Speaker 11: urgent action. And you know, people have talked about the

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Speaker 11: inflationy impact of Trump, but the ABEN set itself has

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Speaker 11: nothing holding it back. So yeah, we're holding out for

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Speaker 4: Up well argue, then we do come to Trump. That's

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Speaker 4: a lot of numbers as this negotiating, you reckon is

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a bit of negotiation here.

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Speaker 11: So he's come out and posts on truth social that

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Speaker 11: he's going to impose twenty five percent tariffs on all

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Speaker 11: he previously twenty percent on everything. China, He's previously said

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Speaker 11: sixty percent. He's now saying an additional ten percent. A

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Speaker 11: lot of it seems to be about you the inflow

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Speaker 11: So evidently Trudeau's beyond the to reassure about what they're doing.

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Speaker 11: China's also been on the phone, evidently to say that

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Speaker 11: they've made progress and counting narcotics efforts. But you'd have

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Speaker 11: to think this is all about sort of massive, sort

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Speaker 11: to be feasible if you look at the current rate

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Speaker 11: of tariffs at the moment, Yeah, we have thirty forty

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Speaker 11: use merchandise imports by value, it's two percent.

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Speaker 11: Different, and it's a bit back to the future.

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Speaker 10: You know that the first chapter.

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Speaker 11: Actually bring in large tariffs was actually George Washington, so

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Speaker 11: he put in five percent tax on all imports and

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Speaker 11: it's sort of receded since. So, yeah, what what Trump

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Speaker 11: is proposing hasn't been seen for at least a century.

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Speaker 10: If not more.

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Speaker 11: Of course, you've got the EU getting on the act

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Speaker 11: there imposing tariffs on evs from China. But this is

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Speaker 11: quite different, and it'll be interesting to see how China

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Speaker 11: responds when push comes to SHAV. I mean, they are

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Speaker 11: the use's second largest foreign creditors, so yeah, I think

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Speaker 11: it's probably more more about bargaining ships.

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Speaker 4: I suppose right up, give us some numbers.

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Speaker 11: So the dow at the moment, dear, we'll step back

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Speaker 11: a bit on the tariff announcement or tariff tweet down

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Speaker 4: this morning give the genetic modification debate. We've got a

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Speaker 14: Nice to be here, Mike, thanks for having we.

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Speaker 14: I think it's the starting point. There's a lot more

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Speaker 4: About where do you reckon people are at with us.

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Speaker 4: Because at first blush, My argument would be that what

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Speaker 14: You know, we need more value.

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Speaker 4: The counter problem is, you know, climate change, and everyone's

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 4: With Donald the Mistakes Morning to you, twenty five here

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Speaker 4: and ten there and fifty there and off we go.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, man, a lot of money involved. Most would say

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Speaker 18: that a key reason for Trump's election win was the economy,

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Speaker 18: the rising cost of so many things due to inflation.

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Speaker 18: Here the inflation rates right now in this country is

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Speaker 18: two point six percent, and really so it to come

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Speaker 18: down A lot. Consumers have been paying for the war inflation,

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Speaker 18: of course through astronomically higher interest rates. So this has

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Speaker 18: hit the pockets of everyone with any dead or with

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Speaker 18: any plans to seek out credit as a biohoma, rocaa

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Speaker 18: or whatever. During the election campaign, Trump often spoke about

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Speaker 18: using the threat of tariff's to enforce border security and

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Speaker 18: to stop the flow of a legally supplied fentannel. So

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Speaker 18: it was not just campaign talk. Is sort of negotiating

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Speaker 18: tactic or does Trump intend to start another trade war?

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Speaker 18: He's done this in the past on his social media. Today,

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Speaker 18: Trump has up the ante seemingly by saying he will

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Speaker 18: impose massive tariffs on day one of his new presidency

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Speaker 18: on goods from Mexico, Canada, and China. Trump has often

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Speaker 18: said things like this.

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Speaker 13: It's one of the most beautiful words in the whole world,

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Speaker 13: the word tariff.

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Speaker 16: It's more beautiful than love.

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Speaker 18: Love, or money. Trump makes it perfectly clear right. He

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Speaker 18: says all products will be hit, with Mexico and canic

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Speaker 18: exporters additional twenty five percent, with China facing a ten

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Speaker 18: percent levy. Trump played that tariff game in his first term.

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Speaker 18: You recall at that point he was targeting China and

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Speaker 18: specific goods with the tariffon steel and aluminium imports. Initially,

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Speaker 18: China retaliated by slapping tariffson food items. Then the US

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Speaker 18: responded with another fifty billion in tariffs, and China retaliated

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Speaker 18: with more of their own in a way that really

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Speaker 18: hurt US farmers and led to Trump giving bailouts to

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Speaker 18: farmers here twenty three billion dollars worth, So bottom line

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Speaker 18: that didn't work out so well for agriculture. Costs also

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Speaker 18: went up for consumers here. This time it is all

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Speaker 18: far more vague, Trump saying in his post today that

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Speaker 18: the new trade war is meant to hold the movement

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Speaker 18: of drugs and migrants. All three target countries have responded,

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Speaker 18: with Mexico saying it is ready to respond to react

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Speaker 18: and adding that drugs is an American problem. Trump and

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Speaker 18: his campaign claimed that Mexico, Canada, and Chinese suppliers would pay,

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Speaker 18: but in reality US importers of essential goods like car

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Speaker 18: parks would pay, and those costs were would go fairly

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Speaker 18: quickly to consumers. So some economists here are saying, if

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Speaker 18: this takes shape in the way it seems right now

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Speaker 18: to some, that could add up to an extra twenty

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Speaker 18: six hundred US dollars a year on average for consumers.

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Speaker 18: The same folks who voted for a government turned around

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Speaker 18: because of rising costs.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, then Elton John saw the interview yesterday and

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Speaker 4: he's got some real troubles, isn't they.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, he's had a few health woes along the way,

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Speaker 18: but yeah, this is being talked about as he is

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Speaker 18: releasing a documentary on his epic fifty year career called

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Speaker 18: Never Too Late. But in that interview with American ABC,

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Speaker 18: he says he's been sidelined right now because of a

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Speaker 18: previously undisclosed problem.

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Speaker 19: I unfortunately lost my eyesight in my right eye in

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Speaker 19: July because I had an infection in the south of France,

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Speaker 19: and it's been four months now since I haven't been

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Speaker 19: able to see.

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Speaker 18: So Elton John is seventy seven. He's had well a

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Speaker 18: list of things. His hearing was a problem for time.

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Speaker 18: He had knee and hip replacements. But this is derailed

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Speaker 18: his efforts, is what he is.

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Speaker 19: There's hope and encouragement that it will be okay, but

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Speaker 19: it's I'm kind of stuck in the moment.

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Speaker 18: So Elton John has released thirty two albums during his

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Speaker 18: career to date, hopefully not the end of his musical road.

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Speaker 4: No, exactly all right, might go. We'll see you Friday.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it very much. Richard Arnold stateside old rockers Rod Stude,

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Speaker 4: if you haven't heard this morning, he's headlining Glasdow next year.

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Speaker 4: So if you lined up. I was saying the other day,

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Speaker 4: seven hundred dollars a ticket and you don't know who's there.

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Speaker 4: I would have paid seven hundred dollars for Rod Stewart

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Speaker 4: all day long. Morning, Mike, what's happening with Solar zero?

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Speaker 4: Very good question. There's plenty of coverage on it this morning.

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Speaker 4: They've gone belly up. Solar's zero is the biggest provider.

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Speaker 4: I'm open to correction, but I think from memory Solo

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Speaker 4: zero is the biggest provider of sola in this country.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 4: I'm always fascinated, and there'll be people with contracts and stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm always fascinated. Is that an individual business story? As

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Speaker 4: in other words, that you know the market's fine, but

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Speaker 4: they just weren't running their business particularly well or as

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Speaker 4: Solar a problem going forward in the Great renewables debate.

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Speaker 4: So look that up and inform yourself if you haven't already.

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Speaker 4: Turn away from seven on.

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Speaker 1: My Costal breakfairs with Bailey's real estate news talks.

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Speaker 4: There'd be a couple of things from the States you

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Speaker 4: should know about. There's a report out this morning from

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Speaker 4: a Senate subcommittee. Airlines a pocketed billions of dollars and

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Speaker 4: junk fees or what they call junk fees. Between twenty

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Speaker 4: eighteen twenty twenty three, five of the major players pocketed

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Speaker 4: twelve billion dollars things like seat selection United Airlines, for example,

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Speaker 4: this is the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, United three

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Speaker 4: hundred and nineteen dollars for extra leg room seat. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. Is that a junk fee? If you want

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Speaker 4: a seat with extra leg room, and I mean it's

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Speaker 4: obviously one of those aisle seats are one of those

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Speaker 4: things next to the emergency exit. Why wouldn't they charge

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Speaker 4: you more for that? That seems perfectly normal to be.

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Speaker 4: Seat fees have gone become more and more expensive and farther,

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Speaker 4: reaching extra for additional leg room, aisle and window seats,

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Speaker 4: even selecting a seat in advance, compelling parents with minor

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Speaker 4: children to pay to sit together. Big fifty five page report.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happens to Don't we do that here?

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Speaker 4: We've been doing most of that.

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Speaker 20: Yet, Yeah, I've actually paid extra for extra leg room exactly,

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Speaker 20: so I go absolutely insane on a plane exactly.

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving meals, the classic Thanksgiving meal. The thing that most

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Speaker 4: fascinates me is how cheap food is in America, the classic.

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Speaker 4: First of all, the headline is that this Thanksgiving is

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Speaker 4: going to be cheaper to feed the family of ten,

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Speaker 4: So that's encouraging. So four to ten it will cost

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Speaker 4: you fifty eight bucks, which is five percent less than

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Speaker 4: it did last year. Turkey prices of what's come down

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Speaker 4: down five percent and then nine percent down from twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two. Turkey, cubed stuffing, sweet potato, dinner rolls, frozen peas,

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Speaker 4: fresh cranberry, salery, carrots, pumpkin pie mix, crusts, whipping cream,

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Speaker 4: you know that's in a can, and some whole milk.

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Speaker 4: If you want to add ham and some russt, potatoes

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Speaker 4: and some frozen green beans, are you going to pay

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Speaker 4: seventy seven to thirty four, which is down eight percent?

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Speaker 4: But the turkeys is a pile of turkeys, and the

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Speaker 4: prices through the floor. Sixteen pound bird that accounts for

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Speaker 4: forty four percent of the overall cost. Do you know

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Speaker 4: how many birds there are two hundred and five million, which.

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Speaker 20: Is weird because there's a survey out that says that

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Speaker 20: thirty five percent of Americans don't even like it.

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Speaker 4: No, but that you do what you do. That's how

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Speaker 4: it goes anyway, work it through. Fifty eight bucks for

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Speaker 4: ten is five dollars eighty. A meal five dollars eighty.

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Speaker 4: You go to McDonald's Wanaka and see what you can

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Speaker 4: get for five dollars eighty and a guarantee it's not

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Speaker 4: turkey with all the with all the trimmings.

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Speaker 20: That's better than the deal you get at the Walkworth

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Speaker 20: Pub on a Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I reckon it is five minutes away from seven. That's usual,

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Speaker 4: the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fiz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 4: But the company at the Walkworth Pub, that's what you

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Speaker 4: can't buy. Where am I Black Friday? Let's talk about

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Speaker 4: that and all the people who get sucked in price

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Speaker 4: may have done some work. It's found out last year,

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Speaker 4: sixty one percent of the most popular products purchased in

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Speaker 4: the country. This is they were actually more expensive on

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Speaker 4: Black Friday than any other day of the year. I mean,

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Speaker 4: go figure thirty nine percent were at their lowest price

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Speaker 4: during the sale event itself only thirty nine percent of products, so,

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Speaker 4: in other words, sixty one percent of products were more

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Speaker 4: expensive seventy six percent more expensive on Black Friday. Seventy

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Speaker 4: six percent of products were more expensive on Black Friday.

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Speaker 4: iPhone eleven cheapest price last year was five hundred and

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Speaker 4: fourteen dollars cheapest pass on Black Friday, seven hundred and

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Speaker 4: sixty four sucked in good Samsung S twenty two cheapest

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Speaker 4: during the year nine to sixty eight on Black Friday.

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Speaker 4: It's your privilege to pay thirteen hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 4: dollars a dice and stick latest model last year, eleven

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars during the year fourteen hundred for Black Friday, headphones,

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Speaker 4: coffee machines, washing machines, whole bunch of other products all up.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven percent of US distrust Black Friday Saving is

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Speaker 4: No kidding. Skepticism highest amongst those age twenty five to

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Speaker 4: thirty four and forty five to fifty four. However, those

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Speaker 4: who do believe the sales expect to get bargains on

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Speaker 4: average of forty percent were they are you really on fashion,

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Speaker 4: tech and home decor items. Mike, I believe the government

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Speaker 4: is leaning more to gene editing as opposed to GMO.

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Speaker 4: Imagine a gene edited to Marta that grew on half

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Speaker 4: of the required nitrogen, half the water, absorbing more of

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Speaker 4: the CT. Well, that's what I'm saying. During the interview.

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Speaker 4: Giving climate change and the occession around, the pressure is

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Speaker 4: going to be on how do we feed the world.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of feeding the world, I mean Dherant see the

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Speaker 4: most annoying celebrity outside of Baldwin this morning, give us

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Speaker 4: his voice to a cause, and then because of the times,

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Speaker 4: changes in mind on the voice to the cause any anymore.

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Speaker 4: So Bob's got to ring them up and going, please,

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Speaker 4: can you come on my song? If there's ever an

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Speaker 4: indication of how the world has changed Forty years ago

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Speaker 4: when Feed the World was started, they did it for

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Speaker 4: all the right reasons. Might have been a bit clumsy,

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Speaker 4: but they did it for all the right reasons. Forty

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Speaker 4: years on. The whining and the sniveling that goes on

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Speaker 4: simply to raise money for a good cause, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you wonder why the world's in the state it is?

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Speaker 4: Oh see, our time, let's do that in the moment.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: like the breast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news togs, dad be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who's due to speak any moment, So that I'm

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Speaker 4: assuming is good news. Seven minutes past seven. Will come

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Speaker 4: back to it when it happens. Here we go for

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Speaker 4: the final time this year, back locally. Of course, ocr

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Speaker 4: cut is coming most likely fifty points. But the commentary

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Speaker 4: and the monetary policy statements your real gold.

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Speaker 10: Of course.

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Speaker 4: Former Reserve Bank economist Michael dell'sback with us. Michael, very

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Speaker 4: good morning to you, Mike.

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Speaker 16: Fifty oh probably, but if they went seventy five, it

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Speaker 16: certainly wouldn't surprise me. I think it's a reasonable case

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Speaker 16: and making large atart good.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad somebody else is saying that, apart from Greg Smith.

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Speaker 4: At the moment, what's neutral to you? And how quickly

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Speaker 4: do we get there?

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think the Reserve banks fewer things somewhere

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Speaker 16: three two and a half and three is probably the

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Speaker 16: best guess. At the moment. We won't know we genuinely

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Speaker 16: when they're in class we've got there, and seeing what

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Speaker 16: the inflationary consequences are. But you know, if that's the

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Speaker 16: best guess of the number, I think we'll be there

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Speaker 16: by July August next year.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any weight on this? We take a

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Speaker 4: very long summer recess off and this is probably not

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Speaker 4: a good thing for the Reserve Bank. And yes, they

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Speaker 4: can hold an emergency meeting, but they don't, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything in that or not?

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Speaker 16: I think of the margin, it might influence things a little.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's a bad choice on their part. They

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Speaker 16: should have more even the space the meetings through the year,

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Speaker 16: but much the biggest influence will just be that inflesh

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Speaker 16: is turning now decisively coming down. I think the sort

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Speaker 16: of core inflectionment meads that don't get so much attention,

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Speaker 16: and I think the Bank will be drawing attention to

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Speaker 16: that themselves today whether they go for seventy five and

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Speaker 16: so the fact that they're not coming till February may

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Speaker 16: just make them a little more willing to make a

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Speaker 16: bigger call.

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Speaker 4: Is there any disconnect that you're seeing in the economy?

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Speaker 4: Q four for some anyway, is not looking like maybe

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Speaker 4: some thought it would once the cuts starf another word,

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Speaker 4: the fizz. Isn't there is that a problem?

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Speaker 16: I mean, legs are longer than that, so you wouldn't

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Speaker 16: expect a drop from the o CR to have made

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Speaker 16: observable difference to actually developments that quickly. Yes, it all

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Speaker 16: come through in the confidence measures, and some of them

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Speaker 16: have been a bit stronger others aren't.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 16: Purchasing managers and DEXes, which are really quite important actually

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Speaker 16: surveying firms about what they're doing, are still very very weak.

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Speaker 16: But again it's not surprising. Rates were high for a

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Speaker 16: long time. Legs take a long time to work. We're

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Speaker 16: still going to see more fiscal consolidation next year, so

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Speaker 16: life's not going to be easy for anyone in their company.

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Speaker 4: Probbly Well, I was going to say, one of the

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Speaker 4: main reports I read the other day said one percent

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Speaker 4: growth next year. Is that what you see ish Well?

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's quite plausible. There's always a big margin

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Speaker 16: that the are there, and you know, it's what happens

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Speaker 16: in the rest of the world. But yeah, any recovery

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Speaker 16: looks like she's pretty gradual.

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Speaker 4: And how would you describe that? Is that a landing

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Speaker 4: of softish nature, a crash, A what is it?

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Speaker 16: I don't think it's either of those. It's sort of

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Speaker 16: mid range. You know, we've been very weak from ours

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Speaker 16: for years. Discusses on the unemployment rate as it goes

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Speaker 16: to five and a half to see it. Obviously, that's

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Speaker 16: way better than some of the peaks we've had in

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Speaker 16: the past. It's still tough for job seekers. It's a

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Speaker 16: genuine recession, all right.

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Speaker 4: I always appreciate your expertise, Michael Ddell, former Reserve Bank economist.

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Speaker 10: Of course.

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Speaker 4: Ten minutes past seven, I get some pretty good news

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Speaker 4: on the housing price front justin I'll give you those

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Speaker 4: numbers in a moment, but I need to get to

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Speaker 4: the business of health. A little bit of help coming.

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Speaker 4: We've got an additional fifty senior doctors and seventy five nurses.

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Speaker 4: Association of Salary Medical Specialists Boss Sarah Dalton is withther Sarah.

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Speaker 4: Very good morning to you, Sheldon. Mike how A, I'm well, indeed,

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Speaker 4: I know what you will say. But it's better than nothing,

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Speaker 4: isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, it depends effectively what the minister has announced. There's

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Speaker 21: fifty extra vacancies on an already very long vacancy list.

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Speaker 4: Where are they getting them from? By the way, there're

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Speaker 4: a covert of seeing the doctors about the place.

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Speaker 21: Oh I wish, wouldn't that be nice? All I want

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Speaker 21: for Christmas doctors?

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Speaker 4: Are we bringing them in or training them do this?

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Speaker 4: What does this actually achieve?

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Speaker 22: I know I hate to.

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Speaker 21: Reign on the parade, but I really don't think it

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Speaker 21: achieved anything. I think it's really disappointing given that last

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Speaker 21: year's worksforce planned put out by Health in New Zealand

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Speaker 21: that I identified finally put a number on a shortage

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Speaker 21: of senior doctors in New Zealand seventeen hundred and that

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Speaker 21: included GPS actually, and they said, here's a number, this

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Speaker 21: is how many we think we need. And nothing that

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Speaker 21: has happened since has referred any way, shape or formed

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Speaker 21: through that data, or has attempted to address it in

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Speaker 21: any concrete or tangible way. And you know the minister's announcement,

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Speaker 21: you say, which is we're going to make up some

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Speaker 21: doctors for some areas in particular need. Well, you know,

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Speaker 21: we had one of our members on the radio yesterday

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Speaker 21: from Wiped up As saying we could take twenty of

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Speaker 21: those tomorrow. And that's one place. And of course the

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Speaker 21: same day we've got if I taught a consulting with

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Speaker 21: staff in the National Public Health Service Data and Digital

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Speaker 21: director at about tens of millions of dollars of planned

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Speaker 21: call them cost savings.

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Speaker 4: Does any of that, by the way, before you phone

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Speaker 4: completely dies, does any of that come from if Lester

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Speaker 4: Levy finds millions, does any of that go to the

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Speaker 4: front line or not? Or is that just savings?

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Speaker 21: Well, we think you're taking it from the front line.

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Speaker 21: There's nothing more frontline than our National Public Health Service.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're generalizing onto it. We will think of

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Speaker 4: frontline as doctors and nurses, people who jab things into

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Speaker 4: my arm. If in the back rooms is what we're saying,

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Speaker 4: does that actually get to a doctor or a nurse?

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Speaker 21: Well, I need to be really clear that the National

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Speaker 21: Public Health Service is really frontline. Like that is immunizations,

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Speaker 21: that is panic preparedness and response, it's border controls. You know,

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Speaker 21: it's a communicable disease. That is the real basics offline healthcare,

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Speaker 21: and we're in a hooping cough epidemic. Also data and

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Speaker 21: digital You may well call it back room, but the

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Speaker 21: real gains, other than finding enough staff, which is proving difficult.

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Speaker 21: You know, doctors, nurses, etc. Would be having amazing digital infrastructure,

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Speaker 21: amazing electronic tools that help our people do their jobs

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Speaker 21: sufficiently and better.

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Speaker 16: At the moment.

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Speaker 21: As a clinker, yes it is.

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Speaker 4: But having said that, I don't want to argue with you, Sarah,

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Speaker 4: because it's Christmas and I also like you. But we

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Speaker 4: have no money and health New Zealand is bleeding to

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Speaker 4: a million and a half a month or whatever, it's

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Speaker 4: a billion dollars a year. It's a disaster. We have

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Speaker 4: no money.

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Speaker 21: I guess the commissioner likes to talk about invest to say,

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Speaker 21: and I think given the wider economic indicators I was

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Speaker 21: listening to your previous interview, a health system that is

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Speaker 21: not able to care for people is a real additional

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Speaker 21: productivity drain on the economy. You know, people who have

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Speaker 21: well to work are again people who can't access care

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Speaker 21: who would otherwise be working and contributing.

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Speaker 23: Is a problem.

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Speaker 21: So I think this government really needs to think about

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Speaker 21: what are the basics of healthcare and you know what buildings,

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Speaker 21: equipment and people do they need to deliver because it's

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Speaker 21: better than a one year three year government term, right,

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Speaker 21: So we need a little bit of courage and a

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Speaker 21: little bit of foresight bit longer term.

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Speaker 16: Can you here all right?

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Speaker 4: Good to see you appreciate it, Sarah Dalton, which brings

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Speaker 4: me to an article, which brings me to the reaction

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Speaker 4: to the article, which brings me to the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: and growing the pie, all of which I'll come to

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Speaker 4: in a couple of moments. Fourteen minutes past seven Pascal

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Speaker 4: Foot News on houses. I promise that I deliver. I

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Speaker 4: am the Santa Claus of the housing market. October Trade

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Speaker 4: me property data up up, uppitty up up up. Our

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Speaker 4: average asking price up three point one percent, strongest month

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Speaker 4: on month growth in three years. Selling quicker as well,

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Speaker 4: fifty nine days down from seventy. All but one of

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Speaker 4: the fifteen regions saw growth. Auckland four point two, Hawks

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Speaker 4: Bay two point six, West Coast Boom six point three,

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Speaker 4: Southland four point six. Even Wellington is up two percent.

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Speaker 4: At be Mike. How much is ever enough for healthcare?

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Speaker 4: Irrespective of the government, are they ever happy? Let me

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Speaker 4: come back to that, because it's not a bad question.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen past Wellington's famed City Council got together yesterday made

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Speaker 4: a few decisions. Twenty one amendments close to four hundred

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Speaker 4: million dollars worth of savings were identified in a good

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Speaker 4: old seven hour meeting. The plan is now to have

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Speaker 4: a new draft budget, apparently finalized by December seventeen. Council

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Speaker 4: of Tony Randall was there, Tony morning, Good morning. Did

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Speaker 4: the monitor make any difference the Crown monitor.

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Speaker 23: No, he's sitting and monitoring, observing from the sidelines. But

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Speaker 23: we've had a meeting with him and you know he's

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Speaker 23: given us a view and I think he's going to

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Speaker 23: be a plus to our council.

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Speaker 4: Good the four hundred million dollars in all the decisions,

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Speaker 4: was that a direct response of a bloke sitting in

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Speaker 4: the corner because simming and sent him there, or did

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Speaker 4: you finally wake up and get your back together?

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Speaker 23: No, it was a result of us not saying the

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Speaker 23: airport she is, Look, we're going to sell the airport

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Speaker 23: she is to replace the emergency fund that we need

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Speaker 23: to keep some extra money inside in cases of an

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Speaker 23: earthquake or something. And we didn't sell the shares. I'm

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Speaker 23: not into selling the silver to pay the groceries. And

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Speaker 23: so I changed my vote. So we had to make

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Speaker 23: cuts to restore the emergency funding, and that's why we're

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Speaker 23: doing the long Term Plan amendment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that no, No, I get all of that. But

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Speaker 4: what I'm asking was those decisions that were made yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Is that because you're in the gun and the whole

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Speaker 4: country is now looking at you as a bunch of

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Speaker 4: incompetence or were you going to do that anyway because

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Speaker 4: you had to because you weren't selling the shares.

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Speaker 23: Oh, we had to, and we took the advice of

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Speaker 23: our officers. But you know, the problem we have in

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Speaker 23: terms of the decisions is most of them Mayor's amendments

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Speaker 23: to what the officers recommended put money back in. And

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Speaker 23: so I'm really worried we haven't actually made the cuts. No,

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Speaker 23: certainly not the money that you've talked about.

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Speaker 4: Is the Golden Mile ever going to be a starter

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Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form. Was Tori going to

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Speaker 4: die in the ditch over that?

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Speaker 23: I think both are correct. Actually Tory put her put

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Speaker 23: the Golden Mile money back, and so it's no longer

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Speaker 23: subject to any consultation. She seems determined to get it,

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Speaker 23: to get it in and start being built without the

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Speaker 23: public having any say, and certainly before the election that's

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Speaker 23: coming up.

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Speaker 4: So are things better or not really better? Tony?

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Speaker 23: It depends what you mean by bees r think working

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Speaker 23: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: More lighter, a foot bit more money saved, a little

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Speaker 4: bit more fiscally you know successful.

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Speaker 23: No, No, these counselors are determined to implement green agenda

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Speaker 23: sort of stuff. They have not listening to the people

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Speaker 23: that we're demolishing the Begonia House are kind. We're looking

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Speaker 23: at demolishing the city's sea bridge, the mere and the

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Speaker 23: supporters seem determined to turn Wellington into Copenhagen with more

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Speaker 23: psycho ways, and in the meantime you're destroying the real Wellington.

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Speaker 4: Nicely, put go well Tony Randall, Wellington City councilor his

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Speaker 4: net and Yaho in the ceasefire.

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Speaker 2: And I'm determined to get our soldiers, our hero soldiers

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Speaker 2: or measurements, all measures to keep save their lives and

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Speaker 2: bring back victory. This is why I will bring an

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Speaker 2: agreement the cabinet. The duration of it will depend on

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Speaker 2: what happens in Lebanon and money. We keep whole freedom

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Speaker 2: for military freedom, and if its Butler will re arm itself,

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Speaker 2: we will attack.

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Speaker 4: But for now this will cease five seven one.

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Speaker 4: Series one electric toothbrush half price, So be quick. Chemist

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Speaker 4: Warehouse Black Friday offer ends Sunday one December. Hurry in

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Speaker 4: store or online today. Stop paying too much chemist warehouse

883
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Speaker 4: asking tent before. Now if you can score, the government will,

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Speaker 4: as we mark one year this week, it is in

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Speaker 4: the area I think of common sense. Just this week

886
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Speaker 4: a cop shop in the heart of Auckland. Simple and

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Speaker 4: yet the biggest city in the country didn't have one,

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Speaker 4: and crimes gone through the roof and the CBD was

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Speaker 4: a disgrace. And now we got housing. A question the

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Speaker 4: previous government could never answer properly is when it came

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Speaker 4: to social housing, why did the government of the government

892
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Speaker 4: alone have to do it all? When there are providers

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Speaker 4: with vast experience and a chance to be a better provider.

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you tap into that? And so the announcement

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Speaker 4: that the government will do very things yesterday to get

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Speaker 4: community housing providers more active in the market. One work

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Speaker 4: differently with them around red tape and regulation. Two, hopefully

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Speaker 4: get the Reserve Bank to change the rules around the

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Speaker 4: money that has to be set aside by the commercial

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Speaker 4: banks before they lend it providers. Three maybe even help

901
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Speaker 4: with finance by backing them up themselves. So kieing Aura

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Speaker 4: turned out to be a debt laid mess, of course,

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Speaker 4: and that can happen when you put all your eggs

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Speaker 4: in one basket. This is another of these issues, by

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Speaker 4: the way, that no one disagrees that there is an issue,

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Speaker 4: i e. More homes are needing to be built. But

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Speaker 4: this isn't China. The state doesn't have to control everything

908
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Speaker 4: under labor. All that happened was that the Q grew longer.

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Speaker 4: Never have we seen so many people lined up for housing,

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Speaker 4: and yet never have we seen the line grow longer

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Speaker 4: because the chosen mechanism was failing, And even then they

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Speaker 4: didn't really bend to the obvious. The bigger question, of course,

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Speaker 4: is just how big should the state's role in housing be?

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Speaker 4: I mean, just how and why is that seemingly so

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Speaker 4: many tens of thousands of people can't seem to find

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Speaker 4: a roof to stick over their heads? Are we really

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Speaker 4: that poor, that deprived that the line has to be

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Speaker 4: that long. What this government seems to get is the

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Speaker 4: private sector are not ogres. The state doesn't have to

920
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Speaker 4: be the only game in town, and sadly, in rectifying

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Speaker 4: problems that are seemingly simple to rectify. Common sense isn't

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Speaker 4: all that common? Husking Mica is Tony Randall the only

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Speaker 4: sensible It's quite possible I hate to break this to you,

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Speaker 4: but property isn't the only way to build wealth or

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Speaker 4: growth the economy. I'm an independent financial advisor. Our balanced

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Speaker 4: portfolios on average are up fifteen percent this year, some

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Speaker 4: growth in the twenties over three years, four or three

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Speaker 4: or four. Where's the reporting on all of this, Well,

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of reporting on the market. We do it

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Speaker 4: every day on this program. For goodness sake. I bought

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Speaker 4: my first house and now a rental in Glenn and

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Speaker 4: it's twenty fifteen numbers, laconemic hip. If you want to

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Speaker 4: put your money in the market, you can do so.

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Speaker 4: No one's stopping you. But what I know is that

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Speaker 4: people are obsessed with housing in this country. They love

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Speaker 4: housing because not only can it give you a return

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Speaker 4: for lifestyle and retirement, but of course there's a roof

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Speaker 4: over your head. You can't put a portfolio over your

939
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Speaker 4: head because when it rains, the portfolio gets wet. And

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Speaker 4: so to you to say that putting money in the

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Speaker 4: market isn't a good thing and that's what's good for you.

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Speaker 4: How much is ever enough for healthcare?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 4: In that is a very good question, which brings us

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Speaker 4: to Richard Prebble's column in the Herald this morning.

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Speaker 10: Read it.

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Speaker 4: He is referencing Dominic Stevens's speech from the Reserve Bank,

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Speaker 4: which he gave a couple of weeks ago and has

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Speaker 4: got tremendous coverage and all of the problems that the

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Speaker 4: government is facing at the moment, and why in fact

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister simply say growing the pie might not

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Speaker 4: be the answer.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, togsad Bet

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Speaker 1: bring them.

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Speaker 4: It's away from My Politics where it say much Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: Timmy Anderson after eight meantime the status to the days,

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Speaker 4: of course, as we got the news forul re mp

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Speaker 4: nicky K passed away at just forty four, long battle

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Speaker 4: with cancer and one of your best friends, David Pharah

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Speaker 4: is well, it's David.

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Speaker 22: Very good morning to you morning Mike.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure where I saw it, but your

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Speaker 4: piece you wrote yesterday about her that was delightful and

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Speaker 4: I hope that that helped a lot of people understand

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Speaker 4: more about her and your experience with her. How did

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Speaker 4: you become best friends?

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Speaker 16: As you put it, well, I knew when.

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Speaker 22: She was eighteen she was a young national and I

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Speaker 22: worked in partment and then she joined us in parliament

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Speaker 22: two three years later, so we became colleagues and she

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Speaker 22: the ended, as all Kiwis do or most of them,

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Speaker 22: went to London for five years, and I went to

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Speaker 22: London a lot and ended up staying with us. I

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Speaker 22: think it was during that period there that we became

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Speaker 22: really close. We started doing some holidays together at the

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Speaker 22: C and there's also the period when just like being

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Speaker 22: in her twenties, she she started talking about I might

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Speaker 22: come back to New Zealand and stand for parliament.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. Did she always ignore your advice?

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Speaker 22: Yes, it was the one constant of our relationship. She

982
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Speaker 22: always wanted advice, but she generally already had a fairly

983
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Speaker 22: good idea in her mind what she wanted to do.

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Speaker 22: And standing for parliament I think was probably the great

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Speaker 22: example because we just all said, Auckland Central's been held

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Speaker 22: by Labor or their alliants for ninety years, it's never

987
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Speaker 22: been won by national and there's already a Nationalist MP there,

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Speaker 22: so we said, you won't win the nomination, you won't

989
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Speaker 22: win the seat. Why ain't go and look out a

990
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Speaker 22: nice seat like Rota Roa. Andy, though, had this belief

991
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Speaker 22: in herself and she was like, I think I can

992
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Speaker 22: win it.

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Speaker 10: She did.

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Speaker 22: She door knocked on I think every door in the

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Speaker 22: electorate and she also kept her as we know, for

996
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Speaker 22: the next four elections too. Des By never been what

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Speaker 22: you call a blue seat. I mean Auckland Central isn't Epson.

998
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Speaker 22: It's a very left leaning electorate. But so many people

999
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Speaker 22: there will give Labor or Greens the party vote that

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Speaker 22: also vote for Nikky.

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Speaker 4: It gives it gives you an insight. She's what I

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Speaker 4: would call a very cross party sort. Everyone liked her,

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Speaker 4: everyone respected her, and you could you know, even if

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Speaker 4: you were in the so called wrong party, you still

1005
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Speaker 4: got on with her and worked with her. And that's

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Speaker 4: who she.

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Speaker 17: Was very much.

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Speaker 22: And she did so much cross party work. She worked

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Speaker 22: with Louisa Role on same sex marriage, her and Kevin

1010
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Speaker 22: Hagskin I think two years writing a bill to reform

1011
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Speaker 22: the nineteen seventy adoption laws we had, et cetera. Nicky

1012
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Speaker 22: was very much a national MP, but never thought that

1013
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Speaker 22: all goodness comes from one party, and she was always

1014
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Speaker 22: working across the course spectrum to try and achieve things.

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Speaker 4: Where did she get a stoic nature from because I

1016
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Speaker 4: thought she handled what happened to her extremely well, extraordinarily well.

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Speaker 22: She had a bit of a tough childhood, was that

1018
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Speaker 22: splits themilies, etc. And I think she grew up really tough.

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Speaker 22: In the defining thing with Nicky we talked before about

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Speaker 22: her ignoring advice was people underestimating her. When I actually said, look,

1021
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Speaker 22: I don't know if he and were not consent, she said,

1022
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Speaker 22: give us underestimating me like everyone else in my life.

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Speaker 22: And she told me about long list of people, including

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Speaker 22: her pe teacher who said you'd never be able to run.

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Speaker 22: Now if you don't know it, Nicky did, I think

1026
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 22: keen marathons, the five coast to coasts. So Nicky was

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Speaker 22: always just one of those incredibly determined people in I

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Speaker 22: just saw a both who this morning some one seat

1029
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Speaker 22: of her meeting Margaret Thatcha, and it just revived to

1030
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Speaker 22: be there, probably two women who both went good to say.

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Speaker 10: No to.

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Speaker 4: Lovely thoughts. David, I appreciate it very much, David Farah.

1033
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Speaker 4: And if you didn't see his piece, I can't remember

1034
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Speaker 4: where it was, but look it up. It's a lovely

1035
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: backstory of the things they did together. The places they

1036
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Speaker 4: went and some beautiful stories. David Farah nineteen minutes away

1037
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Speaker 4: from eighth Hosky, Tom Homan, the borders are has arrived

1038
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Speaker 4: in Eagle Pass.

1039
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Speaker 24: No did Burton President Trump. President Trump's one badass president

1040
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 24: to securest border and level we've never seen before. Gress

1041
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 24: was down to a forty five year lows went down

1042
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Speaker 24: between eighty three unprecedent of success. Joe Bain is the

1043
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Speaker 24: first president in the history of this nation who came

1044
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Speaker 24: into office in unsecurity border on purpose. This isn't mismanagement,

1045
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Speaker 24: This isn't this isn't in competence.

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Speaker 16: This is by design.

1047
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Speaker 24: So the first morning I walked on a smile online

1048
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Speaker 24: face was day after elected when President Trump won. Because

1049
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 24: he's gonna come back, He's going to finish his job

1050
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Speaker 24: he started.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like him already in a strange kind

1052
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Speaker 4: I like Tom. I think Tom could be the rock star,

1053
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Speaker 4: either that or McMahon's wife, one or the other. I

1054
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Speaker 4: probably shouldn't refer to McMahon's wife as McMahon's wife, but anyway,

1055
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Speaker 4: Linda's a woman in her own right in the Education Secretary.

1056
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Speaker 4: But that's Tom Homan on the on the border. It

1057
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Speaker 4: is I tell you what, I've got a really cool

1058
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Speaker 4: update for you on the wannic McDonald's in a moment

1059
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Speaker 4: eighteen to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News talks at me.

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Speaker 4: In shitification word of the Year. I'll come back to

1063
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Speaker 4: that in just a couple of moments. So McDonald's wanakare

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Speaker 4: I talked about it yesterday, and this thing's going to

1065
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Speaker 4: go ahead because you can't just go around stopping businesses

1066
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 4: opening because we sort of like, especially in a beleagued

1067
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Speaker 4: country like this, we like businesses opening anyway. So this

1068
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Speaker 4: comes to us this way. So the rama, this is

1069
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Speaker 4: everything wrong with the rama. Calling to Eric Crampton, our

1070
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Speaker 4: friend at the New Zealand Initiative. So the District Council

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Speaker 4: in Queenstown notifies the National Public Health Service, which is

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Speaker 4: a wing of Health New Zealand of course, that McDonald's

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Speaker 4: wants to come into the area. So they use our

1074
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Speaker 4: money to put together an eight page submission on what

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Speaker 4: should happen. They strongly encourage further meaningful engagement with the community.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much for that. That's awesome. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how we would have come to that conclusion all by ourselves,

1078
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Speaker 4: without your input and funded by the taxpayer. They also

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Speaker 4: remind the Council of its tetidity obligations to Kaye taihu

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Speaker 4: as man of Fanua. This is McDonald's in wanic. They're

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Speaker 4: concerned about the impacts of the men C and the

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Speaker 4: TE Now you're saying, what are they? And I wouldn't

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00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: have the slightest idea, and you know I couldn't give

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00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 4: a monkey's anyway. They are concerned about the impacts of

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Speaker 4: the MNC and the TNC such as McDonald's on planetary health.

1086
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: So the fact that there's a McDonald's now opening in

1087
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: Wanaka is going to make all the difference to the

1088
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: planetary health. They recommend a comprehensive HIA once again, wouldn't

1089
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: have a clue including cultural impact assessment to analyze the

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00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: cultural impact for the locals. We would like to see

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Speaker 4: such an assessment demonstrating that the utcomes for the individuals

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00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: and the community of Wanaka would mostly be positive before

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00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: granting consent for this proposed fast food. Can you believe

1094
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: and Eric's one hundred percent right, this is what's wrong

1095
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: with the RAMA. All that all I want to do

1096
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Speaker 4: is open a business, employ some people, celibrate of food,

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Speaker 4: pay some tax, probably support a few charities. But ah no,

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00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: let's turn it into a circus and have every dickhead

1099
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: and Wellington involved in how much you reckon it cost

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: to put together a submission like that. Apart from tens

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Speaker 4: of thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 20: You reckon they can get away with not considering the

1103
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 20: treaty if they promised not to do the Kiwi burger.

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Speaker 4: Right Macquarie I gave you what was the word we

1105
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: gave demure? Wasn't it demir Some the other Macquarie Dictionary

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00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: Their twenty twenty four word of the Year is in shitification.

1107
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: What a fantastic word. They've been doing the word of

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00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 4: the year since two thousand and six. Cozy Libs was

1109
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: there one last year til they went for a couple

1110
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: of years ago, So in shitification became popular last year.

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00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: It was used in a blog post by guy called

1112
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: Cory and he's the author of the Internet con and

1113
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: he used it to describe how digital platforms become worse

1114
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: and worse. Here is how platforms die. Firstly, they're good

1115
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 4: to their users. Then they abuse their users to make

1116
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: things better for their business. Customers. Finally, they abuse those

1117
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 4: business customers to claw back all of the vade for themselves.

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00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: Then they die. I call this in shitification word of

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00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: the year, sensational living away from it, my.

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Speaker 1: Costume, Breakfast with a Vita, retirement communities, and new to

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: b Why do I from my god?

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00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: A new members bill, the Hairdressing Reducing Restrictions Amendment Bill,

1123
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Speaker 4: I Kid you not, has been pulled from the famed

1124
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 4: biscuit tin since two thousand dight. Apparently it's been illegal

1125
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Speaker 4: to serve drinks drinks, any drinks in a hair salon.

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: Who knew National's East Coast MP Darna Kirkpatrick is behind

1127
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: this particular bill. Rodney wainboss Julie Evans as well. It's

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Speaker 4: July morning, morning, Mike. Do you serve drinks?

1129
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Speaker 10: We do?

1130
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Speaker 16: Yeah.

1131
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 25: I don't send the police round though I didn't know

1132
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 25: we weren't supposed to.

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Speaker 4: So so if I asked anybody in your salon or

1134
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: series of salons, is it legal or illegal to serve drinks?

1135
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: None of you would have known one way or the other.

1136
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 25: They wouldn't have said it's probably legal, except if it

1137
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 25: was alcohol and they knew there was license and laws

1138
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 25: there so we don't serve alcohol.

1139
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: So you had never served alcohol, because I know a

1140
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 4: place that as did serve alcohol. Is it like highly

1141
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 4: illegal as opposed to just being moderately illegal if you

1142
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: serve tea, I.

1143
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 25: Think it's probably moderately And it depends how much you save,

1144
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 25: I suppose, and on what occasion. Maybe glass of bubbles

1145
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 25: at the Christmas time.

1146
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: So when I when I sit down and with my

1147
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: haircut and I just asked for a bottle, open up

1148
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: the bottle. That's probably a bit existive, you.

1149
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 25: Think, possibly what do you say?

1150
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 8: Time of day?

1151
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Speaker 16: Is my?

1152
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 17: Well?

1153
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: Does it honestly?

1154
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 10: Really? So?

1155
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: What do you do tea and coffee?

1156
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 25: We do tearing coffee, We do different flavored teas. What

1157
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 25: interesting which I'm really surprised by, is we get visits

1158
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 25: from the council before the issue certificate and we have

1159
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Speaker 25: to have dish washes and things to be able to

1160
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 25: wash dishes and cups and sauces to a certain standard.

1161
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 25: So I'm just not sure why it was never brought

1162
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 25: to our attention then and then following following COVID after lockdown,

1163
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 25: we were recommended not to save tea and coffee when

1164
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 25: the salons reopened because of contemnation and things. And again

1165
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 25: we were never told we shouldn't have been saving what

1166
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 25: we shouldn't have been saved.

1167
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: So do you think the people who were giving you

1168
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 4: the advice didn't know it was a legal either?

1169
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 25: Absolutely, Even the Hair and Barber Association of New Zealand

1170
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 25: they recommend us both saving ties and coffees directly after COVID.

1171
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Speaker 25: So it was never, ever, ever, as far as I'm concerned,

1172
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Speaker 25: brought to our attention that it was illegal to save

1173
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 25: hot drinks.

1174
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: So it's the heat. So to get the legality of

1175
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: it is the is the concern around heat? Is that right?

1176
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 25: No idea. I suppose it's if walking across with hot

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00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 25: drinks and or here going into the cups, perhaps maybe

1178
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 25: to health and the safety thing. But all I know

1179
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 25: is the clients love a hot drink when they're having

1180
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 25: their heads on, especially if they're having a big service

1181
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 25: like a color service, part of the client journey.

1182
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: Exactly whenever I get my hair called and there for hours,

1183
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: what do you sue? Do you serve still unsparkling and

1184
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 4: some salons yet and do you put a limon in

1185
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: the water?

1186
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 22: Believe sometimes a sprig of mint.

1187
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: There you go, good on your dueling, nice and nice

1188
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: to talk to you. She's lovely, isn't she? Julie Evans,

1189
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: who's the Rodney Wayne CEO. The reason I asked about

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: the water is that where I go, they do the

1191
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: water sparkling or straight, and they always serve it with

1192
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: a slice of lemon. Up until recently, and I stand

1193
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: to be corrected, they used to hand out a menu

1194
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: and there were drinks, alcoholic drinks on that menu, and

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: I'm assuming somebody woke up to the fact that that

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: was probably not really kosher. I don't know that that

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00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: still exists, but they do tea and coffee. That've done

1198
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 4: tea and coffee forever.

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Speaker 20: I think, really there's an opportunity to sort of set

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Speaker 20: up a chain of speakeasy sellons, isn't there?

1201
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 26: I reckon go you really go underground with it.

1202
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: Very good done. All the people who texted me saying

1203
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be putting your money into housing and you

1204
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: should be putting it into funds. Let me tell you

1205
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: that auctions are back. This from one roof, just to

1206
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: really rack you up this morning. Auctions back. The clearance

1207
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: rates are back to normal. Christ Jute expecting a busy Christmas.

1208
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: Clearance rates are strong over eighty percent Wellington. See Wellington,

1209
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: you do the tender? Why you do a ten? And

1210
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: Wellington tenders the worst way to sell a house. It's

1211
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: the stupidest thing in the world, putting a price in

1212
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: an envelope. It's not eighteen sixty three. Oh what do

1213
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: you think That envelope says, Oh, I don't know. I'll

1214
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: bet I'll do something more just in case I lose.

1215
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: That's a silly way of selling your house. Anyway, they

1216
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: favor the tender. But the auctions are back in Wellington.

1217
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 4: I'm reading in one roof, so things tend to be

1218
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: going well. Even in Wellington. They're clearing seventy one percent

1219
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: of auctions at the moment. So what I'm telling you.

1220
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 4: In Auckland, Wellington, christ Church, the auctioneers seemed to be thinking,

1221
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: as we're heading into the summer period that we've got

1222
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: a little bit of life coming back. So that's encouraging.

1223
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 4: Then I come to Winston Peters. I probably won't raise

1224
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: it with Mark and Jenny because we've got some other

1225
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: stuff to do, but there's a beautiful piece. I am

1226
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: more in love with Winston Peters every day. And I've

1227
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: said that before, but he's he's been in Europe, he

1228
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 4: has been to Guess how many countries by the end

1229
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: of this week. Guess how many countries in the one

1230
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: year of being foreign minister. Guess how many countries he's

1231
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: been to? Thirty eight? Come on. Six of those countries

1232
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: he's visited twice. The Indonesia he has been three times.

1233
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: Eleven major international forums he's been to, you know, the

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00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: un assemblies, he's visited of fifteen of the seventeen Pacific

1235
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: Island Forum member countries. The only got to go to

1236
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: Kirabas and New Caledonia, but he's been to all of

1237
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: the rest of them. He no one has traveled more

1238
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: than he has. And as I quoted, I think it

1239
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: was Amori Brady the other day from the university. She

1240
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: says he's got a worldview, and so few foreign ministers

1241
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: in this part of the world have had a worldview,

1242
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: and he has walked the walk. When it comes back

1243
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 4: to re engaging with the world, ask yourself, how many

1244
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: countries did Nanayama who to go to? And I'll tell

1245
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: you this for nothing. It wasn't thirty eight news for

1246
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: you in a couple of moments, and then we'll do

1247
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: politics Wednesday, Big.

1248
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: News, bold opinions, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range

1249
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Rover villa designed to intrigue and use togs'd be I, says.

1250
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: Disl You're getting quite a bit of heat from the

1251
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 4: real estate community on my comments about teams do the dues.

1252
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: We'll come back to that if I have time. The

1253
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 4: Coward Brothers are a moderately interesting concept. They started in

1254
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four. It's Elvis Costello and t Bone, Vernette

1255
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 4: Costello and Burnette, and then they called themselves the Coward Brothers,

1256
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: and then by nineteen eighty five they had a single,

1257
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: and then they started making up a backstory about who

1258
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: they were. Even though you knew who they were, wasn't

1259
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: really who they were, and so they were claiming they

1260
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: wrote a huge number of classic country in blues songs

1261
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: that are traditionally credited to other people, none of which

1262
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: is true. Anyway. After what appears to be a hibernation

1263
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 4: of some years, they've come out now with the Coward

1264
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: Brothers as that's them, plus that's the name of the albums,

1265
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: and there's quite a lot of cracks there's twenty of them.

1266
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 17: Serve them yastra.

1267
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: Like licorice. That's not this one. It sounds like your course. Anyway,

1268
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 4: there's twenty tracks in this fifty five minutes worth. There's music.

1269
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: So that's something that thinks about for Christmas. Mark Mitchell's

1270
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 4: well us. Jenny Anderson, good morning, good morning, good morning, Hey.

1271
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 10: Good morning morning, Jimmy, good morning to you.

1272
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 8: Bath.

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 4: You've you first.

1274
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 10: Mark.

1275
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: Nikki Kaye thoughts.

1276
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 10: A force of nature. You know. I think we're all

1277
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 10: devastated to hear of losing her. But I sort of

1278
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 10: went back and reflected last night.

1279
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 27: When she was diagnosed with breast cancer in twenty sixteen,

1280
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 27: I started texting her every morning, just sending her a

1281
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 27: message of support, and we did that right through her treatment.

1282
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 27: So I went back and had a look at those

1283
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 27: texts and reflected on that she's just a special lady.

1284
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 27: I mean, we also lost someone called Ellen Towe's very

1285
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 27: special to us in the National Party. He was a

1286
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 27: leader in the party, wasn't a he wasn't an MP.

1287
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 27: She was very very close to Ellen, and we lost

1288
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 27: Ellen in twenty nineteen. So I sort of think of

1289
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 27: them together now looking down and critiquing us, uh, you know,

1290
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 27: and in making sure that we're doing the right thing.

1291
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 27: But she was just mat she was just a She

1292
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 27: was an amazing lady. I remember during her treatment, I

1293
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 27: was on I was heading up to India with JK

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Speaker 27: on a trade mission up there, and I was cheering

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Speaker 27: the Foreign Afairs, Defense and Trade SEP committy at the

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Speaker 27: time and would have liked to have become a minister.

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Speaker 27: And she was in the midst of her battle and

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Speaker 27: she was sending me a full strategy on what I

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Speaker 27: needed to do to become a Minister of Press JK

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Speaker 27: and go to Camden so and and the other thing.

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Speaker 27: Just very quickly, David Farrish had a story about you

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Speaker 27: know her in our quarterly meetings with the mayor. They

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Speaker 27: were so funny. We'd all turn up there, all the

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Speaker 27: international Peace would turn up. Nicky would be there and

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Speaker 27: we quickly worked out that it was we were there

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Speaker 27: to support her while she brought her long list laundry

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Speaker 27: list of issues for the for the mayor. She was

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Speaker 27: just and and just the last thing, Mike, I mean,

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Speaker 27: we all talk about it, but she won that seed

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Speaker 27: of Auckland Central just through sheer hard work and guts

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Speaker 27: and that's exactly what she was all about out and

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Speaker 27: let's se how she lived her life well, said Jenny.

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Speaker 8: I just her energy. Amazing to see a young woman

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Speaker 8: who was so passionate and driven and she made you laugh.

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Speaker 8: She had the ability and select committee just to cut

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Speaker 8: to the point and crack a joke. I'm not afraid

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Speaker 8: to laugh at herself, and I think that's always a

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Speaker 8: strong asset to have as a politician. But the one

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Speaker 8: thing I'll always be so thankful for is the stance

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Speaker 8: she took on Great Barrier Island. I spent part of

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Speaker 8: my childhood there and it's a place close to my heart.

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Speaker 8: So the fact she stood up against mining and really

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Speaker 8: took a strong stance, even though it was against her

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Speaker 8: own party, I've got huge admiration for the strength encouraged

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Speaker 8: that took.

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Speaker 10: Speaking well just on that, Genny just reminded me of

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Speaker 10: something just really quickly.

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Speaker 27: Years ago, there was a protest march for in dog

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Speaker 27: owners came up because they're using beagles to test pharmaceuticals

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Speaker 27: and rake up and things like that, and they decided

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Speaker 27: that the march was going to be through my electric

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Speaker 27: to my Electricate office, and I remember feeling really strongly

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Speaker 27: about that. I'm a dog lover, and so I decided

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Speaker 27: to join the march and I rung Nicky and I said,

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Speaker 27: what do you think because it's kind of going against,

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Speaker 27: you know, our position, and she goes, just go for it.

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Speaker 10: So I joined the march. We all got to my

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Speaker 10: office and.

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Speaker 27: Everyone had the loud speaker and they're calling out the

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Speaker 27: same Martin which will come out and speak to us,

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Speaker 27: and said, hey, I'm back here.

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Speaker 10: I was back at the march with my blent lad.

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Speaker 16: You know.

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Speaker 10: They were Okay, what do we do? What do we

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Speaker 10: do now? So yeah, but that was that was Nicky,

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Speaker 10: That was Niki.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome story. Now Ginny do you and it's just

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Speaker 4: people getting on with each other. There's very good piece

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Speaker 4: in the paper yesterday that explains this four year term thing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure people understand the four year term.

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Speaker 4: You've got two things coming up, right. You've got Winston

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Speaker 4: Peter's vote on whether we want a four year term

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Speaker 4: or not. But you've got Seymour's idea, which from my

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Speaker 4: reading seems to switch to the power a bit, if

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Speaker 4: not a lot, around the Select Committee process and Opposition

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Speaker 4: MP's having more say and more input. One do you

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Speaker 4: understand that? And two is it a good idea?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I read that article last night, so I do understand it.

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Speaker 8: I'm skeptical. I think it could be used for bad purposes,

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Speaker 8: just to hold things up, and you get situations in

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Speaker 8: other countries we get a gridlock where as the government's

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Speaker 8: got power on one level but not on the other,

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Speaker 8: and it can be a check of power, can work

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Speaker 8: in a positive way. But my view is that our

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Speaker 8: select committees actually work pretty good right now. And I'm

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Speaker 8: saying that as an opposition member. So we tend to

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Speaker 8: collaborate and work together to make a bill as workable

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Speaker 8: as possible under the current settings. So my concern would

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Speaker 8: be if you flip that around and enabled opposition MPs

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Speaker 8: like me to have an oversight and how a bill

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Speaker 8: would be reported back to the House, that could be

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Speaker 8: that could be problematic, I think, and I'm thinking of

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Speaker 8: it as government and as opposition that we're at we

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Speaker 8: actually worked to either pretty good now and so I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't want to fix something that's not I don't think

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Speaker 8: it's broken.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me get your view in a moment, Mark,

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Speaker 4: Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson thirteen past.

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Speaker 4: News TALKSB sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Jimmy Anderson, Mark

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Speaker 4: Mitchell Mark your view on on four year terms in

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Speaker 4: Seymour's idea.

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Speaker 10: Well, look, I'm not going to form a few and

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Speaker 10: it's going to go through a process.

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Speaker 27: But the one thing I do agree with with Jinny

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Speaker 27: on is that I think that the Select Committee process

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Speaker 27: is really robust.

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Speaker 10: It's an independent committee.

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Speaker 27: It's a great way for the public to interact, to

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Speaker 27: make submissions, it's all reported, it's all public, and it's

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Speaker 27: a great check and balance for us.

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Speaker 4: Are you whipped too much? In general? I'm just thinking

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Speaker 4: about your march and think things. I mean, you look

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Speaker 4: at places like America, to a lesser extent, Australia where

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Speaker 4: just because you're national, you don't have to be national national,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 27: I think, Look, collective responsibility is very very important, that

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Speaker 27: discipline is important. People want to get a sense that

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Speaker 27: the part these are united and they're very clear eyed

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Speaker 27: around what they're trying to achieve and what they're trying

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Speaker 27: to do. But I think there are times Also when

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Speaker 27: you go to the party when you feel very strongly

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Speaker 27: about something and say, can I take a different position

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Speaker 27: on this? And I know that the National Party is

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Speaker 27: always very open to that. But it's got to be

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Speaker 27: a discussion. It's got to be discussion with everyone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's part of the it's part of the coalition deal.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that what Seymour wants to do is

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Speaker 4: going to be contentious or not? What do you only care?

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Speaker 10: Look, that's something for the boss to work out.

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Speaker 8: You know, yes, said you're going to be whipped.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you're whipped into submission.

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Speaker 13: Mark.

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Speaker 4: Do you do you think it's contentious, Ginny?

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Speaker 8: I think it is contentious because it's completely overturning what's

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Speaker 8: been quite a long history of how Select Committee's work.

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Speaker 8: And I think ourthelet committees are pretty awesome. We have

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Speaker 8: great staff at work on them and it's a very

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Speaker 8: open process, as marxis, the public can come in.

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Speaker 4: But just to argue the case, it's a jack up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the government of the day has the power

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Speaker 4: and if you're against something, you'll be heard to be

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Speaker 4: against something, and whatever the government tries to do, they're

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Speaker 4: going to do well.

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Speaker 8: You know, I would have liked Mark to have come

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Speaker 8: to scrutiny Week next week, but our committee didn't even

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Speaker 8: get to that was yeah, that's next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic, because what wasn't the last year was first

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Speaker 4: year was first scrutiny week.

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Speaker 27: It's it's nice to hear that. I'm surprised to hear that, Genny,

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Speaker 27: Jenny wants to see me that that was.

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Speaker 8: So we didn't even get to invite them.

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Speaker 4: No, because you all agreed, you both agreed that scrutiny

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Speaker 4: Week last year was a was a smash.

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Speaker 8: It didn't you, Well, we do it twice, so you

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Speaker 8: do the budget and now you do that and you

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Speaker 8: you got twice a year.

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Speaker 4: So two weeks, oh, well, was it too late to invite?

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Speaker 4: Now invited?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 4: Ginny say, come on mate, come along Mark.

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Speaker 8: Would you like to come along to scrutiny We.

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Speaker 27: Well, I will be at Scrutiny Week next week, but

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Speaker 27: I'm not going to overhaul the decision of the committee.

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Speaker 10: That was the decision of the committy.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so we can't even byecause we don't.

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Speaker 4: We'll see that you're arguing against yourself, Jenny, because the

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Speaker 4: national the national majority is of course exactly what Seymo's

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Speaker 4: trying to change.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so maybe we would have more scrutiny. Maybe there

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Speaker 8: is some. I just think that the problem you've got

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Speaker 8: is you'll get more politics are played already, but I'm

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Speaker 8: more thinking of legislation and how it's scrutinized as opposed

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Speaker 8: to just scrutiny. Week but you're talking about a bell

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Speaker 8: and how it's returned to the House.

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Speaker 27: The one thing that I can say which is great

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Speaker 27: is that our democracy in New Zealand. Ministers probably have

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Speaker 27: the highest level of scrutiny just spit anywhere in the world,

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Speaker 27: and I think that's the right thing.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, I think that's fair. C GT this weekend.

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Speaker 4: First of all, Jenny, where's the conference being held? Christ

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Speaker 4: yet and whereabouts? Nice place, good food? What's going on there?

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Speaker 8: I think it's just an overtail. It's just in the

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Speaker 8: central setting.

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Speaker 4: The right of an overtail, lahbortail is very nice and

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Speaker 4: of course it's walking to everything. Are you going to

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Speaker 4: vote for the CGT to move forward?

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Speaker 8: As they say, I'm not telling you how I'm photing.

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Speaker 10: I love it.

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Speaker 26: How I think it's what.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a good discussion that's been taking place

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Speaker 8: over the past year, and we'll have a good threshout

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Speaker 8: on the conference floor to make sure that we've got

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Speaker 8: some good decisions.

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Speaker 4: What's your vibe about how the vote will go? Will

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Speaker 4: it go forward as an idea to be taken to

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Speaker 4: the election? You think or not?

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Speaker 8: I think there's some robut views on both sides, and

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Speaker 8: I think I'm quite I think. But the thing that's

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Speaker 8: interesting is it's taking New Zealand kind of twenty years

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Speaker 8: to start to say, well, maybe a capital gains text

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Speaker 8: isn't such a bad idea. But here I think is

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Speaker 8: a growing public.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the problem is if you don't believe in something,

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Speaker 4: how do you If you can't even tell us how

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Speaker 4: you're going to vote, how do you sell it?

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Speaker 8: Because we don't talk about how we're internally voting. It's

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Speaker 8: not because I don't believe it. I think we've got

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Speaker 8: a significant problem in New Zealand that we have an

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Speaker 8: aging population and not enough tax to pay for the

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Speaker 8: things like O he So we're going to text them

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Speaker 8: all as well. You need to do something marked to

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Speaker 8: increase the textable To.

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Speaker 4: Me personally, Jennys are just as an exercise to.

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Speaker 8: See where that goes well, Mark can't pay for the fairies.

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Speaker 8: Nicholas canceled them. We have no boats.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday by December thirteen, it's all on. Do you know

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Speaker 4: the deal?

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Speaker 10: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Do you know the fairy deals have gone through Cabina?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't know. I'm not involved in that. No,

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Speaker 10: I don't know they deal so can They wouldn't.

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Speaker 27: But we're putting that position because we're just about every

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Speaker 27: single project we hear it. It is a messive blowouts

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Speaker 27: because it's been very poorly managed in the government. The

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Speaker 27: previous government failed to take decisions on it. We're taking decisions.

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Speaker 4: Politics on your behalf.

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Speaker 8: And that's also also where he sent blame the others

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 8: after a year mark. After a year mark, stop blaming.

1512
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Speaker 4: They get the first term, Jenny. My rule is the

1513
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: Hosking rule of thumb. As you get the whole first term,

1514
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,919
Speaker 4: to blame the last lot. Okay, you had six years, Frank.

1515
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 10: We're to take a lot of We had to pick

1516
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 10: a lot of the year. That's for real. But look,

1517
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 10: we're looking forward and I'm really please. I'm very proud

1518
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 10: of our police service. I'm very proud of what they're doing,

1519
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 10: and we're tracking in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll catch up next week. I appreciate your

1521
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: time as always. Make make sure Jenny Anderson and we'll

1522
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: see how the see how the vote goes in Christ

1523
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 4: you just this weekend for the Labor Party Gate twenty two.

1524
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rovere of the

1525
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: Line News Talk TV.

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Speaker 4: Twenty five. Mike, my sixteen year old son met Nicki

1527
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: Kay through Blue Nature and Education and initiative founded by Nikki.

1528
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 4: Over the last eighteen months, she's changed his life and

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 4: surely many other students as well. She cemented his love

1530
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 4: for the ocean, a marine environment, and restored his faith

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Speaker 4: in learning and making a difference. Her legacy lives on.

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Speaker 4: It's very nice. Thank you for that, Mike. I agree

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: with you. Tender has always seemed to me to be

1534
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 4: a somewhat corrupt process. If you want to know what

1535
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: your house is worth, put a price on it. We'll

1536
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 4: put it up for auction. Mike, Tender's work well, when

1537
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: you understand the concept, bring me. I'll put you right.

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I don't understand how it tender works.

1539
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 4: It tender works as there's a certain date and you

1540
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 4: write a little number down on an envelope and you

1541
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 4: hand it in and then somebody rings you on the

1542
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 4: day and you either win or you haven't or you

1543
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 4: got class, and then you have a little negotiating process

1544
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Am I wrong, Mike? You're wrong.

1545
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 4: Tender is not the silliest way of selling a house.

1546
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: I've been a real estate agent. I've seen many tenders

1547
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 4: where the winning offer is far far higher than the

1548
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 4: next top offer in an auction. Well, yeah, but that's

1549
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: not the point, is it. That's that's that's only from

1550
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 4: one side of the equation.

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Speaker 27: I e.

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 4: Some dumb SUCKI you've found to put some figure that's

1553
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 4: not real.

1554
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 26: And how many of you seen that worn't higher?

1555
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1556
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 4: Texter, can you tell me how many how many times

1557
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 4: have you seen the number far higher?

1558
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 26: I mean, it's basically just a blind auction, exactly what

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 26: it is.

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Speaker 4: You just pick a number, Mike. I totally agree with

1561
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Speaker 4: you regarding the McDonald's proposal for Wanaka. It's been the

1562
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 4: same in Traw with BK BK t raw kill the

1563
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 4: vibe get over at people, more jobs out of business,

1564
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 4: availability of food for locals and tourists to like outside

1565
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: of ours, No other options available. Very good point. What

1566
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 4: are you doing tra You know what you do in

1567
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 4: Trah go to the b K. They the flame grilled,

1568
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: They do the flame. Yeah, they're the flame grill.

1569
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 26: You do the flame flame grill feeling.

1570
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 4: You do the fame girl feeling and tea rounds. Tell

1571
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 4: what's happening this morning in Australia, which is really interesting

1572
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 4: given what's happened in Italy and happened to the UK.

1573
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: So a whole lot of people turn up in these

1574
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 4: countries and you want to get rid of them, and

1575
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 4: you don't know how to get rid of them, and

1576
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 4: you can't, so it becomes a political nightmare and often

1577
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 4: government to lose government because of it. And Italy they're

1578
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 4: shipping them up to Albania. In the UK they tried

1579
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 4: to ship them off to Rwanda, and they pay these

1580
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 4: countries to take them. Then of course all the human

1581
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: rights lawyers come in and tie the thing up and

1582
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: caught for years on end. And both those two examples

1583
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 4: I've given you are a complete met So I announced

1584
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: this morning what are they going to do? They're going

1585
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 4: to pay countries to take the people in Australia. Now

1586
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: I want to know what country and how long before

1587
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 4: the lawyers are involved. This is the breaking story in

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: Australia this morning. Steve Priced with the deats as they

1589
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 4: say in t rah after the news.

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Speaker 1: Which is next, demanding the answers from the decision makers,

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: the mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local

1592
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news togsdad be.

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Speaker 4: Next to no coverage and it can't work out why.

1594
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 4: But also I mentioned did mention christmass announcement on the

1595
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 4: community house providers the chips yesterday, so that was a

1596
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 4: wise move from the government and long over due. But

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01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 4: what he also announced yesterday was an investigation or what

1598
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: they're officially calling an independent review into Sport New Zealand.

1599
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: So Sport New Zealand have got a lot of question

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01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: marks around them at the moment, a senior public sector leader,

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 4: Brendan Boyle is going to be in charge of all

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01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 4: of this. They invest sport in New Zealand, if you

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 4: didn't know, a tremendous amount of money one hundred and

1604
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: thirty one million in forty four sports in the last

1605
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 4: four year cycle. They also invest a further seventy million

1606
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 4: each year international sporting bodies, Regional Trust, Community Group's recreational bodies.

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 4: Here's the key to this. There are organizations that are

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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 4: being funded that sit more at the recreation end of

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 4: the scale than the sports side. Some of them have

1610
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 4: a pretty tenuous claim to help in getting KIWIS active.

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 4: So in other words, the inferences it's a bit of

1612
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: a cash cow. And if you go along, and my

1613
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: strong suspicion is that if you go along and say listen,

1614
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 4: I want to focusing on some large people we want

1615
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: to get out walking, and we've got a good plan.

1616
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: Can we have some money, they then go yes, And

1617
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 4: whether or not you ever get those large people out

1618
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: walking doesn't really seem to matter. So the review is

1619
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 4: on and not a moment too soon as well. Twenty

1620
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: one minutes away from nine asking right, oh, let's go

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01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 4: to Australia. Steve Price, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Good ava.

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 4: Now, poll, what have we got? Give me some numbers?

1624
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 17: This is a redbridge pole. Now I would just caution people.

1625
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 17: We know how the polls have gotten so wrong in

1626
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 17: the United States election, so we just need to be

1627
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 17: careful because we're in that frenzy period pre election where

1628
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 17: everyone's polling everyone else but Redbridge has been pretty consistent

1629
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 17: and this poll shows that the mood of the country

1630
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 17: is that it's headed in the wrong direction. Now that's

1631
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 17: very bad news for Anthony alban Easy. It founded half

1632
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 17: of all voters think we're going the wrong way, compared

1633
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 17: to less than a food who think it's on track.

1634
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 17: But and this is the interesting point, many of those

1635
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 17: surveyed are Labour's traditional blue collar base. These are the

1636
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 17: sort of people you know that walked away from the

1637
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 17: Democrats in the US election. It seems, and I'm not

1638
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 17: saying it will happen, it seems that the same sort

1639
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 17: of mood is a foot in Australia right now. Redbridge

1640
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 17: Pole found only six percent six of Australians agree strongly

1641
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 17: that the government has focused on the right priorities, twenty

1642
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 17: five percent strongly disagree, fifty two percent either disagree or

1643
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 17: so strongly disagree with the idea of the Albanezi government's

1644
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 17: got the right focus. So it's all about what the

1645
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 17: government is focusing on. You can take that all the

1646
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 17: way back to the defeated referendum on the voice. But

1647
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 17: energy would be the other question that I think where

1648
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 17: people are starting to get very nervous. We'll talk about

1649
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 17: that in a sect. Fewer than one in three people

1650
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 17: viewed the government's priorities positively. So this will be yet

1651
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 17: another wake up call to alban Ezi and the timing

1652
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 17: of an election. You know, I know I keep going

1653
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 17: back and forward on this, but I just think he's

1654
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 17: going to probably run full urnament now.

1655
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 4: But what I'll move, He has to because he's waiting

1656
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 4: for the Reserve Bank. The Reserve Bank aren't going to

1657
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 4: move till May. The question I'm interested in how trump

1658
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 4: esque does doesn't become.

1659
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 17: Not completely Trumpes. But he's going to go a fair

1660
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 17: way down that track, particularly on things like energy, immigration

1661
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 17: and tax cuts. That's where he will go. Will he

1662
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 17: do something like the tariff question we saw yesterday or

1663
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 17: will he do something like, you know, completely shut immigration

1664
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 17: levels down though he won't.

1665
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 4: See I was reading the Deloitte Access Economics people came

1666
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 4: out the other day and Marles said he's going to

1667
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 4: run a deficit of twenty eight billion. They reckon it's

1668
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 4: going to be close to to thirty four. So they're

1669
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 4: not running the economy right. So the people are right.

1670
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the people are always right, but I mean,

1671
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 4: you can't argue with their economic performance. It's pretty ordinary.

1672
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, And Charmers is going to have an end year

1673
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 17: economic statement will be put out about where the numbers fall,

1674
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 17: and then he's promising to do a budget in March.

1675
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 17: If he is to do that budget, that same report

1676
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 17: you refer to to Lloyd, it's looking like a forty

1677
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:17,520
Speaker 17: nine billion dollar turnaround in budget numbers from surplus to deficits.

1678
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 17: So that's not a very good message to be taken

1679
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 17: to an allege.

1680
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 4: I was reading early this morning and I did look

1681
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: up the forecast around Australia. It didn't seem that hot

1682
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 4: because the headline was, you know, brace yourself, there's a

1683
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 4: heat wave, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I looked at it.

1684
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: But Sydney's heading for forty.

1685
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 17: Well, I'm sitting in Melbourne and if you can hear it,

1686
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 17: but it's pouring with rain here Sydney Western Sydney's headed

1687
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 17: for forty today and the head of the Australian Energy

1688
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 17: Market Operator a EMO, it's called warned that if it

1689
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 17: gets to forty then we could have problems with power

1690
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 17: threats and you could get blackouts. Now, is this just

1691
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 17: you know, hyperbol or is it actually going to happen?

1692
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 17: I mean, seriously, forty degrees is not particularly hot for

1693
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 17: Western Sydney. But apparently there's a lot of maintenance being

1694
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 17: done on three of the states for coal fired power stations.

1695
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 17: That coal is still a backbone of energy in this country.

1696
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 17: No one should no one should think otherwise. I mean

1697
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 17: yesterday in Melbourne it was a very foggy morning and

1698
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 17: there was absolutely no wind. Airport was even shut for

1699
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 17: a while because of fog. Eighty percent of Melbourne's electricity,

1700
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 17: and I looked this up, was being delivered by brown

1701
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 17: coal and the other fifteen percent was coming from gas,

1702
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 17: so you had ninety five percent from non renewables. What

1703
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 17: happens when those renewables are not there? The lights are

1704
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 17: going to go out.

1705
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 4: Exactly. We've got the same problem. One of the things

1706
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 4: I don't envy you about australiare's a lot I love

1707
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 4: about Australia, as you well know, but the cost you

1708
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 4: pay for cars in Australia is ridiculous. And I'm assume

1709
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 4: it's a tax related thing, is it.

1710
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 17: Well, there's a luxury car tax which shouldn't exist and

1711
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 17: the only reason it was ever introduced was the protect

1712
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 17: the local car industry when we made holds before.

1713
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 4: You don't have one.

1714
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 17: We don't make them anymore. So I don't know why

1715
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 17: the electric car Texas still there. I know you're a

1716
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 17: huge fan of electric vehicles. You'd be pleased to know

1717
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 17: that dealers in Australia can't sell the electric vehicles that

1718
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 17: are valued at seventy five thousand and over. Now what

1719
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 17: are those? Well, the top range teslas are in that bracket.

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Speaker 17: You've got BMW, you've got Mercedes, you've got Vulva. The

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01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 17: reason they can't sell them is the country's about to

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01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 17: be flooded by cheap Chinese electric vehicles. So anyone who's gone,

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 17: oh well I might buy an EV, I might not.

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01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 17: So what you're going to have, which I find really fascinating,

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01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 17: is you're going to have wealthy suburbs. Think about the

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01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 17: eastern suburbs of Sydney or the Inner East in Melbourne

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 17: are going to be flooded with expensive electric vehicles. But

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01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 17: normal folks are going to go, well, no, I'll go

1729
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 17: and buy thirty thousand dollars Chinese electric vehicle. So you're

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 17: going to have this great divide depending on where you

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 17: living what your income is. As to what people are

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 17: driving in electric vehicles, We're going to have something like

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01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 17: two hundred different types of Chinese electric on the market.

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01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 4: You're going to have to change. I don't know people

1735
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 4: have got the hit around. I've seen it on this

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01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 4: program many times. But when you buy a carr it's

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 4: particularly applicable in Australia because the residual value in a

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01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 4: car in Australia is way higher than it is in

1739
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 4: New Zealand. But you're going to get this flood of stuff.

1740
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 4: It's like buying a fridge. When you buy a fridge,

1741
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 4: it's three weeks later, it's worth nothing. You just run

1742
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 4: it till it's broken, then you toss it out. And

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 4: that's what is going to happen to a thirty thousand

1744
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 4: dollars Chinese EV.

1745
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 17: Isn't it exactly what's going to happen with a Chinese EV.

1746
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 17: You're right, you're buying something like your Apple iPhone that

1747
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 17: eventually the battery gives up on you and so Apple

1748
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 17: forces it to go and buy another one. Well, that's

1749
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 17: exactly what's going to happen in electric vehicles. By the way,

1750
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 17: the rental car was a Yaris cross and I booked

1751
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 17: it yesterday.

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01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 4: Good its customers, No, I think would you pay for.

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 17: It three seven hundred dollars a day Australian not I

1754
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 17: think twelve days or something.

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01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 10: We have it.

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01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 17: It's very expensive.

1757
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 4: It is expensive. Where are you sending these people you

1758
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 4: don't want in Australia because I assume you followed the

1759
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 4: UK and the Italian story and you're going straight to court.

1760
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 4: But where are they sending them and how much you're

1761
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 4: paying these people to take them?

1762
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 17: Well, this is an issue that I don't think is

1763
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 17: completely agreed upon.

1764
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 16: Yet.

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01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 17: We've cut immigration levels mainly through foreign students. That's what

1766
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 17: we're doing. So the idea that you would actually pay

1767
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 17: another country, we've already been doing that. I mean you

1768
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 17: might remember in Kevin Runs time he stitched up and

1769
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 17: deal with Malaysia so that any illegal boat arrivals would

1770
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 17: be rehoused in Malaysia. Well, not one person ever went there.

1771
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 17: They all ended up on route. So I just don't

1772
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 17: see a skin like that.

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01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: Would Okay, mate, go well catch up next week, appreciate it.

1774
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: A modo is the one I was taking to see

1775
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 4: price a modo. I think of my saying that, right,

1776
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 4: you know this Chinese manufacturer and they've got a car

1777
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: in the country, a couple of cars in the country,

1778
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 4: couple of versions of the car in the country, and

1779
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 4: they've a big sale on at the moment and there,

1780
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 4: you know, I can't remember what the price was, thirty

1781
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 4: thirty five grand something like that, but you know what

1782
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 4: do you think you're going to sell that for in

1783
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 4: five or six years time?

1784
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Fourteen to two International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

1785
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Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business The Hike Asking

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Speaker 4: That Be Mike, I wonder if the resale value of

1788
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: Australian cars the New Zealand is related to the quality

1789
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 4: of the roads and how this ages said car. No,

1790
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 4: it's got nothing to do with it. It's got to

1791
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 4: do with the fact that New Zealand bebbled into the

1792
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 4: wonderful world of used Japanese imports and as a result

1793
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 4: under price to the market completely. And they've never done

1794
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 4: that really in Australia. So as a result, you can

1795
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 4: expect after three years of ownership in Australia you'd be

1796
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 4: realistically looking at eighty percent of the original value. Save

1797
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 4: you spent one hundred thousand dollars on a car. Three

1798
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 4: years later it's worth about eighty whereas in this country

1799
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 4: it's worth about fifty. It's about half of what it was.

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01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 4: A couple of bits of reading on nuclear by the way,

1801
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 4: because I'm on a theme now because I think I'm

1802
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: going to be on the right side of this. Is

1803
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 4: nuclear power regaining energy. So that's out of the BBC.

1804
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 4: That's a very good read. Look that up because we

1805
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 4: are literally missing the boat as we speak. And you

1806
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 4: talk about Steve and the power in Sydney and they've

1807
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 4: got grid problems and we've got grid problems, and nuclear

1808
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 4: seems to be the way of the future because certainly

1809
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 4: the renewables aren't doing the business at the moment anyway.

1810
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 4: So is nuclear power regaining energy. That's the BBC very

1811
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 4: good piece yesterday that and I didn't know this, but

1812
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: they sort of everyone's on the nuclear train at the moment.

1813
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: The Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant for fifty years generated

1814
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 4: a quarter of the power needed for New York City.

1815
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 4: And this goes back to what I was saying on

1816
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 4: the program, is today data centers of which we want

1817
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 4: to be hosts are now so big, so gargantuan, that

1818
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 4: they will use more power than entire cities. So you

1819
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 4: either want to be into that or you don't. Anyway, decommissioning,

1820
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 4: they started decommissioning this particular power plant, the Indian Point

1821
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 4: Nuclear Plant, back in twenty twenty one. And so what

1822
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: do they do with the waste active fuel? Well, that's

1823
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: inside one hundred and twenty huge metal and concrete canisters.

1824
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 4: And what's it doing there while it's stored behind fencing

1825
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 4: with twenty four seven security guards with guns. Now, why

1826
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 4: they're doing that? While the answer is because America doesn't

1827
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: have a plan. Most countries that have a plan do

1828
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 4: something with it. They either ship it out or they

1829
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 4: bury it. America doesn't. And here's the ultimate irony, and

1830
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: this is why it's well worth reading the article. America,

1831
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 4: on one hand, is increasingly reliant on nuclear yet on

1832
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: the other the reason they don't bury it or ship

1833
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 4: it out is because everyone suspicious of the waste. Should

1834
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 4: you be suspicious of the waste? No, Because the expert

1835
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 4: quoted in the story says, as follows, the waste from

1836
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 4: nuclear energy poses so little danger a person would need

1837
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 4: to stand near it for an entire year to be

1838
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 4: exposed to as much radiation as maybe one or two

1839
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 4: X rays. So Americans are paranoid the way Americans can

1840
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: only be paranoid about something they live with every day.

1841
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 4: But because of their paranoia, which is based on nothing factual,

1842
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: they've done nothing about the problem. How Americans that ate

1843
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 4: away from nine.

1844
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: Call the mic Costing Breakfast with Bailey News.

1845
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 4: Talks End Mike, you keep talking about resale value. You

1846
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: bought a Ferrari. The glasshouse has no window slift.

1847
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no.

1848
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 4: Ferrari is a very good investment by in large. I've

1849
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 4: been lucky enough to have three of them over the years,

1850
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 4: and they they're better than a lot of cars. Let

1851
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: me tell you that much for nothing. Tires are a

1852
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: bit expensive. Filling them is quite expensive. You don't want

1853
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 4: to go anywhere close to trying to ensure them, of course.

1854
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: But apart from that, really cool five minutes away from.

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01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with Chemist ware House, Great savings every day.

1856
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: Right tech launch. Oh pope, they've got the xite Pro Global.

1857
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 26: Find xite Pro. I knew you're going to get the

1858
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 26: name of it.

1859
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 4: What the new find.

1860
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 26: It's called the find x A pro. It's not un

1861
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 26: new find the model is the Find x A pro.

1862
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 4: What Yes, a stupid name.

1863
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 26: That's what the namers and they held. There's been seven

1864
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 26: before it.

1865
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 4: So does at some point it become found Bali is

1866
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 4: where they launched it. Here's Billy Jane.

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01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 15: As we entered the year of a Generative AI, we

1868
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 15: are community to make aiphones accessable to everyone. We are

1869
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 15: on the way to bring the generative AI futures to

1870
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 15: fifteen million up whole users worldwide within this year.

1871
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 4: Got a lot of cameras, not one, not two, not three,

1872
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 4: four fifty megapixel hessel Blad lenses. The hesslo Blad is

1873
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 4: that some people have seen.

1874
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 9: It really impressive pictures and the details that you get

1875
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 9: are great for telephoto. You actually get the options that

1876
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 9: either three or six times, and both of these capture

1877
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 9: some great photo. You get AI telescope zoom, which kicks

1878
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 9: in after ten times, and the AI here helps enhance

1879
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 9: that photo and at lower zooms. This does a really

1880
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 9: good job and it can do a good job as well.

1881
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 9: It's sixty times zoom.

1882
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 4: Wow. It's really cheap too. It's only twenty two hundred

1883
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: and ninety nine dollars. What a bargain, But because it's

1884
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 4: so unbelievably expensive, they also throw in a free smart

1885
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: watch called the find Watch. Is it the fine Watch now?

1886
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 26: It's actually the Watch X.

1887
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 4: Of course, watch X watches six hundred bucks, so they

1888
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 4: toss it in for nothing. There you go, and there

1889
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 4: has asked for the day back. Tomorrow morning from six

1890
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 4: o'clock is always Happy Days.

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