1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now the chief Onwardsman has had another crack at autoing Atomitiki, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: this time for receiving multiple reports that a mum's partner 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: was abusing her very young kids, and despite even having photos, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: OT didn't investigate this properly. Peter bowches with us right now. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Hey, Peter, good afternoon, Heather Peter. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: These kids are safe now, aren't they. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Well. The assurance given to me is that they have 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: been moved from the abuse of home where they were 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: to the care of their father, and there is a 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: safety plan in place. There's been a previous safety plan 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: in place here. I just hope this one works better 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: than the last one did. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: Now the photos, in particular, how compelling was the evidence 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: that these kids were being abused? And this is evidence 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: that was given to. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: OT when there are multiple complaints of the sort here, 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: including from the children's own lawyer. This evidence should have 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: been compelling. At the very least, there should have been 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: a responsible, in depth investigation. I had hoped, either after 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: I did my report on the death of Malachi Shuebex 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: two years ago, and the assurance was forgiven by or 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: ung A Tamaiki that there would be dramatic change, and 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: yet this has happened, And so the reason I've gone 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: so public on this is that I just need accountability 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: in situations where children are being abused, and in this case, 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: one was even psychologically and physically abused by being kidnapped, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: and orung A Tomriki stood on the sideline and watched, 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: so to speak to me, it's maladministration and it's not acceptable. 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Did they do any kind of investigation? Did they do anything? 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: They got these. 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Reports, they did a cursory examination and investigation. It wasn't enough. 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: They were inclined to be dismissive when one of the 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: family members, another family member applied to the family court 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: because or ung A Tamariki wasn't it seems taking a 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: sert of action to compound the pestilence. Or Tomaiki filed 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: a report for the family court that misled the judge 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: about the nature of the harm, in other words, that 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: it didn't put the true nature of the harm and reality. 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: And I found that very very disturbing. 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Have you lost complete confidence in these guys? 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Well, what I want to say about confidence is that 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: you earn it. It's the same with the job I do. 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: It's the same job that anyone does ordering a tomareiki 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: needs to obtain New Zealand's confidence. There are elements and 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: sights which work well. There are some where you don't 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, and this is a site 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: where we will need to have our confidence restored. I'm 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: going to look during the time I've got left in 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: the job at measures of performance and measures of success. 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: If complaints continue at this rate, they've got an awful 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: long way to go before they obtain my confidence and 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: I think the public's confidence. 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Peter, thanks very much for talking to us about that. 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: That's Peter Bosher, the chief onwardsman. 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