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Speaker 1: David Smith, Guardian's Washington Bureau chief, is with us. Hey David, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: So Carmela's agreed to the first interview. Heres she.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there was growing pressure on Kamala Harris to actually

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Speaker 2: sit down with an interviewer and take some questions. As

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Speaker 2: one person actually from CNN put it to, if you're

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Speaker 2: going to have the nuclear codes, you should be able

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Speaker 2: to answer some questions. And now it's happening on Thursday

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Speaker 2: night at nine pm Eastern time in the US, both

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Speaker 2: Harris and her running mates Tim Waltz will be doing

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Speaker 2: an interview with CNN with the presenter Dana Bash. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it'll be fascinating to see how she deals with questions about,

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Speaker 2: you know, what separates her from President Joe Biden and

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Speaker 2: how she shifted her position on issues such as healthcare

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Speaker 2: and immigration, for example, what does she think about Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump's wall and obviously a whole range of foreign policy

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Speaker 2: issues from Gaza to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: How do you expect Dana Besh to be I mean,

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Speaker 1: is she going to go hard or what do you expect?

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Speaker 2: I'd say sort of middling. I think I watch her

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Speaker 2: quite a lot on Sunday shows on TV, and she's

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Speaker 2: a widely respected journalist, been at CNN for quite a

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Speaker 2: long time. But she does not have a reputation as

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Speaker 2: a tough as a super tough sort of bruiser interrogator.

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Speaker 2: She's not sort of infamous for that, so I think

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Speaker 2: she'll be it should be hard, but fair, and certainly

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Speaker 2: on these occasions, like with the debates, she will be

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Speaker 2: scrutinized in terms of, you know, did she go in

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Speaker 2: hard enough, did she ask the right questions? It's a

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Speaker 2: it's a pressured moment for the for the interviewer as

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Speaker 2: well as the interviewees.

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Speaker 1: David, what do you make of her bringing in Tim Waltz?

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Speaker 1: Is that smart because it feels like she's bringing him

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Speaker 1: in as cover.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, I think critics will say that, and I was

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Speaker 2: reading some reports that say, whilst this is you is done,

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Speaker 2: she will be under immediate pressure to do a solo interview.

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Speaker 2: But in the first instance, it sort of makes sense,

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Speaker 2: I think in that they work well together as a ticket,

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Speaker 2: they're seen as complimentary. Just in general, the Harris campaign

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Speaker 2: is trying to present an image to the nation which

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Speaker 2: includes not only her, as you know, a California liberals,

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Speaker 2: they're perceived and obviously so a woman from color. They've

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Speaker 2: a woman of color. They've really balanced that with this

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Speaker 2: kind of midwestern dad who's a football coach and a

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Speaker 2: bit more old fashioned and appealing to certain demographics, and

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Speaker 2: it's probably logical for them to present them as a package,

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Speaker 2: not least because as vice president. You know, there are

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Speaker 2: still some people who don't know that much about Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: but there are even more people who don't know anything about.

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Speaker 1: Obvious criticism is that she's acting like she's scared people

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Speaker 1: aren't going to like her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you will certainly hear that from Republicans

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Speaker 2: and right wing media, and it will be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see this interview format in terms of does she deal

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Speaker 2: with most of the questions, is he kind of looking

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Speaker 2: on or does he chip in at times? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: we will then see the post mortems in terms of

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Speaker 2: how she came over and you know, what was he

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Speaker 2: assisting in that? But yeah, I think certainly there will

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Speaker 2: then be pressure for her to go solo as well.

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Speaker 1: David, what do we have any idea what Mike Zuckerberg

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Speaker 1: was talking about, what the content was that he said

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Speaker 1: He was pressured to take off Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Zuckerberg talking on Tuesday about president the

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Speaker 2: US government sense of posts, principally about coronavirus, and he

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Speaker 2: says the Biden administration repeatedly pressured his teams at Facebook

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Speaker 2: to sense of certain COVID nineteen content to including humor

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Speaker 2: and satire. And he's not given that much more detail

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Speaker 2: about specific posts, but we're talking about millions of pieces

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Speaker 2: of information which he now regrets. He says, you know,

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Speaker 2: Facebook should have spoken out earlier, and the consequence of

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Speaker 2: this is that there'll be less control of information or

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Speaker 2: misinformation at times during the coming election.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know what it was, David, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, Really appreciate your time. As always, David Smith,

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Speaker 1: Guardian's Washington bureau chief.

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