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Speaker 1: Hello. I am Paula Bennett and welcome to my New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Herald podcast. Ask me anything. One thing I've learned

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Speaker 1: in life is it's never too late to learn something new.

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Speaker 1: So on this podcast, I talk to people from all

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Speaker 1: walks of life to hear about how they got to

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Speaker 1: where they are, get some advice and guidance on some

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Speaker 1: of life's biggest questions. Today, I have gotten Ozzie in

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Speaker 1: the studio with me, literally fresh off the plane. I

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Speaker 1: am joined by Australia's favorite handyman and TV icon host

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Speaker 1: of the Block Australia, Scott cam. Scott is here in

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Speaker 1: New Zealand to celebrate the twentieth season of The Block Australia,

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Speaker 1: eighteen seasons of which he has hosted.

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Speaker 2: Scott Welcome, Hello, paul Up, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on in. I Ca'm going to ise

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Speaker 1: us in with some quick fire questions. If you could

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Speaker 1: go to the pub with someone interesting, who would you check?

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Speaker 3: Jees, that's a tough one, Captain Cook. Maybe I love explorers.

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Speaker 1: He'd have a story, wouldn't he.

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Speaker 2: I've always loved explorers since I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just what the adventure of it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Of course he's well known here too, isn't he very

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Speaker 2: well known here?

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Speaker 1: And we like it bit of contribution cook, is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I wrote a one of books about him.

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Speaker 1: He has named most of the bays around New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: probably without in for varying reasons. I would say, if

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Speaker 1: you heard an a drink with them with the drink,

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Speaker 1: but you might have to have rum because he's well.

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Speaker 3: Probably I might introduce him to a cold beer because

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Speaker 3: that's my drink. I drink whiskey as well, so I

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Speaker 3: think maybe we'd get a nice whiskey into him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why not.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of an odd one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd like to have a bit with a

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Speaker 3: lot of sportsmen like Don Bradman and people like that.

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Speaker 3: I do like explorers, yeah, and Australian history and you

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Speaker 3: know he circumnavigated New Zealand as well, didn't he and

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Speaker 3: drew the first map.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. To say it isn't pretty much named after

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Speaker 1: New Zealand, we've gotten renamed it back to originals. Yes, absolutely, Okay, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start with some steps, which is not

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Speaker 1: like me, but here we go. Twentieth season of the

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Speaker 1: Block Australia. You've been host for eighteen of those. There's

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Speaker 1: nine hundred episodes, more than thirty four million in prize

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Speaker 1: money given out, one hundred and seventy six contestants on

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Speaker 1: the show, two hundred bathrooms and ninety eight kitchens built. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's impressive. So what do you put the success.

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Speaker 3: Of the show down to look I think, Paul of

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Speaker 3: that we create family viewing. That's what we try to

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Speaker 3: do where kids are on tablets and things like that

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Speaker 3: and other streaming devices. When I was a kid, we

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Speaker 3: what we're trying to watch Evy Days. Well, no, you know,

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Speaker 3: my dad didn't watch that.

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Speaker 2: That was on four o'clock. He was at work.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we we we're trying to a family

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Speaker 3: viewing show that mum and dad and three kids can

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Speaker 3: I think that that's why it's successful.

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Speaker 2: And we have new customers every year. As in contestants.

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Speaker 3: We have different styles of housing and we have different areas,

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Speaker 3: like whether it's a sea change or something else or

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Speaker 1: We do love a renovation show the way we like.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got New Zealanders and Naisies that's got there,

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand, you know, like one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody wants to have their own little patch,

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Speaker 3: don't they. And there's other countries around the world that

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Speaker 3: and you do appeal.

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Speaker 1: So is that because we kind of like the Aussie

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Speaker 1: so you are kind of, you know, like, obviously you're popular,

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Speaker 1: otherwise they wouldn't store Heavy Year all these years later.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I've been very lucky, and I think I've

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Speaker 3: just been myself and don't try and put on any

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Speaker 2: It's just me.

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Speaker 3: So whenever people meet me they say, oh, you're exactly

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Speaker 3: like you are on the Tiger. Yeah, because I've been

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Speaker 3: rehearsing that for sixty two years. Yeah, I don't need

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Speaker 3: if in the early days, if the or public didn't

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Speaker 1: No, And so did you think all those years ago

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, not at all. Like I started. I've

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Speaker 3: done about ten different shows. This is just the last

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Speaker 3: back the screen test that I was offered, and she said, well,

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Speaker 3: do something different for a year because you've been doing

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Speaker 2: Bit of fun.

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Speaker 3: And my wife and I've been married for thirty one

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Speaker 1: And isn't it cool? Because also with being a trade

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Speaker 1: If I give that up, what do I do? You

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Speaker 2: Well, I never gave it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I still had a carpentry building business with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've only just sort of retired from that

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Speaker 1: That's kind of healthy though, right. It keeps it bit

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we don't use the word TV star in

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Speaker 2: I just go to work, Yeah, that's all I do. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I raised my children. They were all born

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Speaker 3: and they survived that whole period without any dramas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's just what just to give them their

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I said, you know, if you mentioned that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll just be annoying and people will say that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that Okay, tell me about season twenty

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Speaker 1: of the Block. It's on three now. I've heard this

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Speaker 1: how much can you tell us?

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Speaker 3: at times, and it's really you know, we always say

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Speaker 2: People you have to watch this till the end. Wow,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know it started a couple

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Speaker 1: Yeah, feller Pilon looks magnificent.

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Speaker 2: It's about two hours from Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but at times it goes pair shaped pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: So do you get irritated necessarily with these contestants. But

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Speaker 3: Look I do, but that's in time because I always

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Speaker 3: they show colors that make me think otherwise, because you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got to be fair to them. And they're under pressure,

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Speaker 3: they're away from their families, they're getting judged every week.

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Speaker 2: So I do give them a fair run.

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Speaker 3: And I'm on their team right from the beginning, and

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Speaker 2: I realize what they've given up.

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Speaker 3: I realized that some of them have worked hard, but

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Speaker 2: I don't like anyone that's lazy.

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Speaker 1: When you've been given an opportunity, can you be lazy

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: You watch this series, really, you'll come to a determination

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Speaker 3: of whether some people are more lazy and some aren't.

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Speaker 1: Are the ones that work hard and more successful.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, always, yeah, and they have a better time.

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Speaker 3: If you're lazy, you're always looking for something to do

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Speaker 3: and you don't know where to start. But if you

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Speaker 3: that's my theory on life is if you work really hard,

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Speaker 2: And that's how I did it. You know. I always worked.

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Speaker 3: I built my wife a couple of homes and finished

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Speaker 3: them completely the first years ago one when we were

441
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Speaker 3: first married, because we didn't have much money, so that

442
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 3: took a little while, a bit of a process. I

443
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Speaker 3: put a little bathroom in upstairs in the bedroom that

444
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: was half completed for many years, and she hit. My

445
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 3: wife had to carry a bucket of water up every

446
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: night to flush the toilet because it wasn't plumbed in,

447
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 3: but the toilet worked. It was plumbed in for sewerage

448
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 3: for waste, not for water coming in. Okay, so she

449
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: had to flush it with a bucket for a long time.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I called my coul de sect trading air

451
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: because honestly, we all are so a new fridge, and

452
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: so I wrung the plumber over the road and said, mate,

453
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Speaker 1: come plumber with fridge because if I don't do it,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, And he goes, yeah, he said a lot,

455
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Speaker 1: Just come over now and do it for you. Yeah,

456
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: there'd be great at the end, water away. You goes.

457
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Speaker 1: She said, I can't charge you, but b when you

458
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 1: see the misses, for god's sakes, don't tell her I

459
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: did this. She's been waiting two and a half years.

460
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: That's right, just like right. Yeah, he said, I can't

461
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: put a bill throw, so will take some beer.

462
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Speaker 2: Isn't she sees all the bills.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how that goes. Hey, thanks so much, Scott.

464
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Speaker 1: We're going to take a break and when we come

465
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Speaker 1: right back, we're going to pack your brain and we're

466
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Speaker 1: going to get some real advice on how to renovate

467
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Speaker 1: and do some DIY we are back with host of

468
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Speaker 1: the Block Australia, Scott cam We're having great, great chat here.

469
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Speaker 1: As we discussed in the first section, you're a trained

470
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Speaker 1: trade see you're a cavender, eighteen years on the block,

471
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Speaker 1: two books behind you. I reckon you're the best man

472
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: for advice about renovating, and I think we need to

473
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Speaker 1: talk a bit more about hard work and resilience because

474
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Speaker 1: it's just not enough out there. Okay, let's start with

475
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Speaker 1: the traps. What are some of the renovating traps that

476
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Speaker 1: people fall into.

477
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Speaker 3: Look, they're really obvious ones, and that is budget of course,

478
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: variations and if folks at home don't understand that, it

479
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: means changing your mind.

480
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Speaker 2: And in the building industry it's called variations.

481
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: And so you want to have the kitchen here with

482
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Speaker 3: a window there and the door there, and then halfway

483
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Speaker 3: through the bill you decide you want to move the

484
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Speaker 3: door to there. But that's been framed up differently, and

485
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Speaker 3: so that's a variation. Okay, that might cost you two

486
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Speaker 3: grand or three grand. Some variations to cost you five grand.

487
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Speaker 3: If you do ten of those, it's fifty grand.

488
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. Now, are the budget wise and

489
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Speaker 1: on there?

490
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Speaker 2: Though?

491
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Speaker 1: Are there certain things that you should spend money on

492
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Speaker 1: and the quality really matters, and then other things that

493
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Speaker 1: it doesn't.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's the obvious ones.

495
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Speaker 3: And you put you put your money into your kitchen,

496
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: and you don't need much money in your bedrooms. You know,

497
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: you put a coat of pain in the bedroom and

498
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: it's happy days. And the master bedroom too. You know,

499
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Speaker 3: you could probably live with that in yourself or instead

500
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Speaker 3: of the master. They're calling the primary bedroom the stuff

501
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Speaker 3: because of that you have.

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the main bedroom.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife always says, we don't have to do

504
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: much in our bedroom because no one goes in there.

505
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Speaker 2: It's just us.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But the kitchen everybody goes into, and

507
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: the bathroom downstairs near the kitchen everyone goes into. So

508
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: the place is that you want to be proud of

509
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: in your home is probably where you want to put

510
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Speaker 3: the money.

511
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Speaker 1: But is something in you buy a bitter quality tep

512
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Speaker 1: because you're going to use it every day? Is there

513
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Speaker 1: something in that sort of thing as well? Where you spin?

514
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: You know, because you could spend fifty backs so you

515
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: could spin two grand, couldn't you.

516
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Speaker 2: Yes?

517
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Speaker 3: I am of the thinking that no, I think you're

518
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Speaker 3: better off saving money on those sort of things because

519
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: all taps do their job.

520
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Speaker 2: They've only got one job, water on, water off.

521
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Speaker 3: If you like the look of it and it's doing

522
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Speaker 3: the job, we'll spend one hundred bucks, not because you

523
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Speaker 3: buy a tap for three grand.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a kitchens, crazy.

525
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: Right, crazy? I find that crazy.

526
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Speaker 3: And when I was building many years ago, when I

527
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Speaker 3: was building houses for other people, you know, they take

528
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Speaker 3: eight weeks to choose light switches. And you know, if

529
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Speaker 3: you don't have eight light switches to compare in your house,

530
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Speaker 3: when you walk in, all your guest does or whatever.

531
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Speaker 2: No one's going to know whether the light switch is

532
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Speaker 2: good or bad. It's a light switch, yeah, and just

533
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Speaker 2: pick one. Yeah, and I'm worry about it. Yeah, you

534
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: don't need to spend eight weeks on that.

535
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Speaker 3: Or you can buy a light switch that is eighty

536
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Speaker 3: one hundred and two hundred bucks each and we need

537
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Speaker 3: fine one notices that no one notices that, and thing

538
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Speaker 3: by one that's that's twenty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: I go and find like I'm doing a renovation at

541
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Speaker 3: home in Sydney at the moment, not to my house,

542
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Speaker 3: but somewhere else, and I just walked into the lighting

543
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Speaker 3: store and we picked all the lights and we spent

544
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Speaker 3: a little bit of time in that, but not much.

545
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Speaker 3: And then the light switches. Where's your light switches? So

546
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Speaker 3: we'll take those. That's it, Yeah, done, how much? Where's

547
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: the middle of the road ones? These ones will take lot? Fine,

548
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Speaker 3: they look good.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I need them to switch off power in power,

550
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: not like we're a rocket size. Okay, So we've got budget,

551
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Speaker 1: we've got carefully view variations. We've got to make decisions,

552
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing from you.

553
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, big decisions have got to be made quickly, and

554
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: and I'm good at that because I've been doing it

555
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: in my whole life, so I'm good at making decisions.

556
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Speaker 3: I think the budget side of things is you need

557
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: to make a budget, and you've got to stick to

558
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: that budget and then don't add anything to it. Don't

559
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: We've talked about variations, don't change it. But you've really

560
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: got to have that budget in keeping with what you're doing,

561
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: because what happens is if you're budget incorrectly, all of

562
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Speaker 3: a sudden it's.

563
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Speaker 2: Half finished and your run out of money. Yeah, so

564
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: that happens a lot.

565
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: You go to someone's house it's half done, so you've

566
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Speaker 3: got to know that. And the other big one is

567
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Speaker 3: knowing your limitations because a lot of folks want to

568
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: do a lot themselves. They get the builder and the

569
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: spark he comes in and obviously he's got to do

570
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: his bit in the plumber. But then you go, oh, well,

571
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I want to do all the plastering. But hanging sheets

572
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: is pretty easy, but setting it is very difficult if

573
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're doing.

574
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Speaker 2: So you got to know your limitations.

575
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Speaker 3: As well, otherwise you'll just have to do it again

576
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: and gets pay someone to do it.

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And isn't that how you blow your budget though?

578
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: That you think that the cost is going to be

579
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: done or I'm going to be able to do it myself,

580
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: and the next thing, it's another five grand because you

581
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: have to get someone to do that.

582
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Speaker 2: So that's where no your limitations ticks into that.

583
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: And there's also you know, there's nine inch grinders, big

584
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: tools like that that you need to use, and if

585
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: you don't know how to use one of them, you know.

586
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: It's the best way I know to cut your hand off.

587
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: And so no, your limitations in what you're using and

588
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: how you're doing it as well.

589
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, then all right, so give me

590
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: so we've got examples, I'm sure mini of where they've

591
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: gone wrong. What's kind of nailing it?

592
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: Like?

593
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: What what does good look like?

594
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: What does succeist look as in the finished product?

595
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

596
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, painting is really important to make it look good.

597
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the last thing that happens in the job.

598
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: If a painting looks orderary, then the whole job looks ordering,

599
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: doesn't it. And I think standards, you've got to set

600
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: yourself a set of standards in your own head. Acceptable standards.

601
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Speaker 3: They're cord and if someone walks in and goes, oh,

602
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: this looks good. But if you walk in and go, well,

603
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: I don't like that and that looks bad, well then

604
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: the acceptable standards haven't been processed and stuff there.

605
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So would you advise anyone to give it

606
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: a go?

607
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because people admit to themselves

608
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: that they're no good at handy but you know, handywork

609
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: and things like that. And you know, I've got mates

610
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: that couldn't hang a picture, which I find bizarre. But

611
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: that's all right, because you just presigned yourself to. You know,

612
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: I can't hang a picture, so I'm never going to

613
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: try and do it. I'm like that with technology.

614
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you got at, what you're not.

615
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 2: That's what you know.

616
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: And if something goes wrong with my computer, I don't

617
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: even attempt to anything to even if I push a button,

618
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: something might disappear. Yeah, so I have to wait for

619
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: my son to come home and he fixes that for me.

620
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had a wonderful ad. It was these kids

621
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: and the playground and they're kind of like Jones. You

622
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: know how much to do your dagang and you know,

623
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: do this and do that, and then finding someone says, mate,

624
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, do it yourself and he sort of can't. Well,

625
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: well you because you know, I was under John Key's haven.

626
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: We used to call him Jones because he couldn't. He

627
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: couldn't even couldn't even knock on the wall and goes.

628
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: My aim was always to make enough money that I

629
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: could pay someone else to do it.

630
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: Jonesy has become a term for someone that's no good.

631
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

632
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: In building, Yeah, but it was a kid on a TV.

633
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for what building supplies? I think, God, I haven't

634
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: seen it for a while. Was it something Yeah, it

635
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: was might a t so it's a mighty tea in

636
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like, I can't remember the whole.

637
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: It just became this thing. It was quite funny and

638
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: the way it was done it was, you know, these

639
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: kids discussing how they're going to build something and then

640
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: the other one, you know, no, he was going to

641
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: he was going to do it that way.

642
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: We had that in Australia called not Happy Jan. Have

643
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: you heard that's just an add on the telly.

644
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

645
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: And it became if you weren't happy, you'd say not

646
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: happy Jan.

647
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

648
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: And there was a woman say that to one of

649
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: her staff.

650
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: That's how it takes off.

651
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Right.

652
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to a the TV shows like

653
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: The Block, but you know, equal sort of where we're

654
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: at in life, you know, and particularly if you're looking

655
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: at renovating and doing a lot of it yourself, you've

656
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: got to be prepared to work hard. Yeah, but duty

657
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: and it just feels like, as you say, now, younger ones,

658
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I notice that that lack of resilience that you know.

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Speaker 1: And in fact recently it was an Australian recruitment company

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Speaker 1: that sort of turned around and said that they think

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Speaker 1: that younger people have got much higher expectations of what

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Speaker 1: they think they should be doing and should be worth

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Speaker 1: instead of what the reality is. And when you see

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Speaker 1: that in human nature, don't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, And having said that, I don't like

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Speaker 3: to say that a lot, but I do agree with

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Speaker 3: you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But I know a lot of young kids that are

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Speaker 2: really great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, and.

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Speaker 2: Lots of them too.

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Speaker 3: But I think the concept of people say to me someone,

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Speaker 3: I'm giving it one hundred percent, and I go, like,

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Speaker 3: you cannot say that to me because your one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Percent is my forty percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of people I know, so you're

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Speaker 3: not giving one hundred percent in your mind, you are,

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Speaker 3: but number one. You need to give one hundred and

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Speaker 3: ten percent anyway, But your one hundred in your mind

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Speaker 3: is actually everyone else is forty.

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Speaker 1: So where did you get that workI sect.

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Speaker 3: Well, I started working in the seventies. And when you

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Speaker 3: worked until you came home and laid on the floor

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Speaker 3: every afternoon on my back on the lounge and floor

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Speaker 3: to stretch my back out and rest my shoulders and

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Speaker 3: arms because it was exhausted. Yeah, And that was the

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Speaker 3: norm of what you did. I worked for my brother

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Speaker 3: who was five years older than me, a big guy,

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Speaker 3: and he worked really hard, so I worked really hard.

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Speaker 3: My dad was a professional fisherman with his dad and

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Speaker 3: his dad.

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Speaker 1: And they worked really hard.

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Speaker 3: And then but then they went into frozen fish and

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Speaker 3: things like that down the track.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: You'd seen it, you'd loved it, your breathe it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you but that was the norm, you know,

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Speaker 3: that was you had to go to work and you

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Speaker 3: worked until you were You come out of that day

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Speaker 3: at four thirty five o'clock and you get into your

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Speaker 3: stiff as stiff as a board and go home and.

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Speaker 2: Have a couple of beers. My dad, but what are

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Speaker 2: your foric feeling?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing to My dad was

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Speaker 1: a carpet and lino layer when lino was thing. So

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Speaker 1: my job is the only daughter and as the kid

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Speaker 1: was to walk on his back to try and stretch

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Speaker 1: and track it. It's kind of like which sounds weird,

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Speaker 1: but you get it right.

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Speaker 2: I've been telling people your job is very so I

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Speaker 2: couldn't close them up because they're so stiff.

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Speaker 1: Wow your fingers, yeah, yeah, So what advice would you

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Speaker 1: give to someone that was thinking about putting their name

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Speaker 1: forward for the block.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that you've got to be careful what

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Speaker 3: you wish for in the block. It's it's really hard.

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Speaker 3: You don't sleep that much towards the end of the week.

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Speaker 3: You've got to work really hard. The rewards are incredible

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Speaker 3: if you do everything right. But you know, everybody that's

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Speaker 3: been on the block that's done it the right way

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Speaker 3: says it's the hardest thing they've ever done, but the

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Speaker 3: best thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, most rewarding. Okay, all right, I like that, Scott.

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Speaker 1: The podcast is called Ask Me Anything, and I feel

725
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Speaker 1: like I've done all the asking. So this is your

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Speaker 1: chance that if you've got a question for me, that

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Speaker 1: you can ask me something.

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel as though you've got that's thank you

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Speaker 3: for letting me ask you a question. And we've talked

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Speaker 3: a lot about doy and all that sort of thing,

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Speaker 3: and you've got you've got a tradey hobby, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And kiddies trading. So what are you? Are you a

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Speaker 2: handy person in the home.

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Speaker 3: Do you get in and do a little bit of

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Speaker 3: work and have you had a massive fail mate?

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Speaker 1: M mmmm, So I've only been married about twelve years.

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Speaker 1: And so the kids are step children and my own children.

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Speaker 1: So we're a nice you know, we're a nice planted family.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it's going to sound weird that I think I've

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Speaker 1: got you know. Anyway, So before being married. The truth

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Speaker 1: of the matter is that I if I was hanging

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Speaker 1: a picture on the wall, I'd do at the heel

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Speaker 1: of the schoe. I sense the hesitation to say that.

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Speaker 1: I just I would not have a bone in my body.

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Speaker 2: Still.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No.

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Speaker 2: But also if you've got a trading husband, but you

748
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Speaker 2: don't need to do it.

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Speaker 1: He's so practical, and he's one of those guys as

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Speaker 1: well that he can kind of tune his mind to anything,

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Speaker 1: you know, And he's incredibly clever, and so he can

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Speaker 1: tune his mind anything. He hate me doing it, you

753
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, to the point where and he's

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Speaker 1: a perfectionist, and so he would just be absolutely horrified.

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Speaker 1: But when I was thinking about interviewing with you, I was, God,

756
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Speaker 1: I don't think I even owned to Himmer before he came.

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Speaker 2: Or you wouldn't either, would you.

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Speaker 1: I bake really well though, and so I could hear

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Speaker 1: the yeah, and so the neighbors, and that's something as well.

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Speaker 1: If it was a small job, you know, then I

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Speaker 1: could A cake would get me the long build a neighbor.

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Speaker 1: I make this amazing Russ with shortcake. He calls it crack.

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Speaker 1: He we consist, So that's good.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what us trade is we like to

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Speaker 3: make our wives proud, so we're puffed up like pancakes

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Speaker 3: when we do something that they're happy with.

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Speaker 1: Whe there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my wife lets me do it all so

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Speaker 3: then she knows I feel proud of myself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, parting segment. What's the best advice you think you've

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Speaker 1: ever been given? Or I give? Because you give a

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Speaker 1: lot of advice.

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Speaker 3: Look, because I've been around for a while, I tend

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Speaker 3: to give a bit of advice. But you know, really,

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Speaker 3: advice it only suits the person giving it. That's something

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Speaker 3: that I lived by my whole life because older blakes,

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Speaker 3: when I was younger, it's given you should do this,

778
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Speaker 3: this and this, so but that suits you.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't suit me at all.

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Speaker 3: So advice is one of those things I don't like

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Speaker 3: to give out too much to younger people because they've

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Speaker 3: got to find their own feet. But the thing I

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Speaker 3: found in certainly working in television and outside in my

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Speaker 3: job is is I've never been late. I hate people

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Speaker 3: that are late. I've worked always really hard. I've never

786
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Speaker 3: asked for anything either. I'm always self sufficient and I'll

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Speaker 3: always come prepared. So that's this bit of advice or

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Speaker 3: you give someone that's starting a new job, or someone says,

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Speaker 3: what do I do to get into television? Those things

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Speaker 3: in television are so important because a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are late, a lot of people ask for a lot

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Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 2: They don't come prepared because they think they're television. So

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Speaker 2: everybody's going to do it all for of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you tread it like a job, which

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Speaker 3: it is, then you might go all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you. Well, I've totally thoroughly enjoyed having

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Speaker 1: you year. It's got came so good to have you

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Speaker 1: in the country and with me here in the studio. Today,

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Speaker 1: you can all catch Scott on season twenty at the

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Speaker 1: we all like a bit of that in our lives.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for another episode to Ask Me Anything.

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