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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealander, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show, Podcast number two to nine for the

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth of October. It's a Friday. It was a

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Speaker 2: funny old show today. Enjoyed it. It was light. We've

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Speaker 2: had some quite intense shows lately and that you've got

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Speaker 3: Great chat about Grannie Flats in some wedding photography. Ah,

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Speaker 3: Talk sed B, well get a to you. Welcome into

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Speaker 3: Friday show. So good to have you with us as always,

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Speaker 3: as it's the end of the week for many of us.

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Speaker 3: Hope you're doing well wherever you're listening. Matt get A

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right and beautiful, still sunny Wellington. It's fantastic

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Speaker 3: It looks really nice, so I haven't had the pleasure myself.

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Speaker 3: That's a beautiful photo of Nick Mills in the background there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I'm here by the grace of Nick Mills

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Speaker 2: letting me use his studio, which I say, I can

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Speaker 2: say it's pristine. He keeps it as clean as Hoskin

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Speaker 2: keeps the Matt and Tyler studio.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's good. That is a very good sign. Now mate,

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Speaker 3: you were down there for the BYC and Agenda podcast

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Speaker 6: That is exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We're live at the Harvestide Events Shed

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Speaker 2: twenty two to seven pm tonight with special guests Grant

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Speaker 2: Early Yeah, how Javelin. Yeah. So if you've listened to

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Speaker 2: our sports podcast, The Agenda, this is the live version

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Speaker 2: of it along with the BYC pod, So there'll be

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Speaker 2: a lot of sports chat and a lot of deep

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Speaker 2: and geeky cricket chat. So if you want to come along,

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Speaker 2: I think there's some tickets remaining seven pm tonight at

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Speaker 2: the Harveyside Events and Shed twenty two. There might just

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Speaker 2: We certainly do.

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Speaker 3: So we'll tell you how to get in the drawer

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Speaker 3: for those two double passes a little bit later. But

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Speaker 3: to today's show because it is a doozy after three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: because it is Friday. We do it each Friday, New

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Speaker 3: Zealander of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Who will win the coveted trophy of Matt Heath and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Adams New Zealander of the Week. It's a big moment,

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Speaker 2: Yeth of October.

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Speaker 6: It's a massive moment.

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Speaker 2: You can have your say, nine two nine two. If

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Speaker 2: you've got a suggestion who you think has had an

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Speaker 2: previous seven days, we'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: We also, after three o'clock, want to have a chat

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Speaker 3: about email mishaps. This is after a Kiwi journalist he

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Speaker 3: He's quite a renowned reporter. He worked in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: He sent an email to someone called Bill de Blasio.

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Speaker 2: It could have been Tyler Adams. You know, Bevin Hurley

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would have given him a line. I

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Speaker 2: And I feel very sorry for this. This Kiwi journalist,

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Speaker 2: a good person, but he's he's messed up this time.

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Speaker 2: And look, I think we've all probably done something like

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Speaker 2: I certainly have had a few reply all problems in

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Speaker 2: my time. That's a doozy, but you know, arguably I

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Speaker 2: have no credibility. It doesn't matter. But as a sort

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Speaker 2: of a PSA public service announcement, let's talk about your

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Speaker 2: biggest email cockups or ones you have seen, so people

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Speaker 2: can look up for them and potentially not humiliate themselves

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Speaker 2: as much as you have.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a good one. After three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock. This is strike three on this topic,

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Speaker 3: I think, because we had such great topics of the

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Speaker 3: A new analysis put the price tag for your first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've come back to it because so many people

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Speaker 2: but I've had kids, and it's my contention that or

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Speaker 2: and that all this height that kids are too expensive

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Speaker 3: many parts of the world right now, the dramatic turn

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Speaker 3: for the British monarchy. Prince Andrew has been formally ordered

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Speaker 3: King Charles the Third has launched this formal process to

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Speaker 3: that mounting concern over his links to the scandal of

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you know a couple of questions on this.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the King has dealt with this? Well?

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Speaker 2: I think he's sort of He's been put in a

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Speaker 2: You know, and you know Andrew hasn't been convicted of anything,

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Speaker 2: has he not yet? A genuine strenuously denies the accusations.

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Speaker 2: But there's just so much dirt and filth, and you

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Speaker 2: know that appearance he made on TV was an absolute

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Speaker 2: Andrew now, who's now Andrew mount Batten Windsor, He's no

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Speaker 2: longer his royal highness. It's got nothing royal or highness

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Speaker 3: Scummy lowlas that's a good title. But it is a

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Speaker 3: big move for King Charles to make, isn't it. And

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Speaker 3: and he seems to have come into that role pretty nicely.

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Speaker 3: But that was a decision that Queen Elizabeth herself was

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Speaker 3: was loath to make to boot out a member of

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Speaker 2: So it might be harder. It might be harder for

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Speaker 2: for a brother to boot out a brother. If you

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Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: hardly put a foot wrong in her entire life. Incredible.

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Speaker 2: But think that the story has has, you know, coagulated

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Speaker 2: a bit more since then, hasn't has become a bit

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Speaker 2: more disgusting? Yeah? Has it? But you know the wider question,

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Speaker 2: have you had to kick a family member to the

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Speaker 2: how do you do it? And how do you have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: that number to call? Really keen to hear your stories?

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Speaker 2: So Beatrice, Princess Beatrice, she still keeps her royal titles.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not her fault, is it.

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Speaker 6: It's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd assume his children they even just thought she was.

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Speaker 2: The one that wore the toilet seed on her head

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Speaker 2: to the wedding. That's right, quite a fascinator she Cayden

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Speaker 2: Will's wedding. Yeah, yeah, so I think she's all right,

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Speaker 2: But Fergie's Fergie's out as well, isn't she. He's out

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Speaker 6: So they get turfed out too?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Sandringham Home? Which still seems very nice. I've got to

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Speaker 3: say it's no pallous, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Some nice Diggs. Well, it's an aestate, you know, Sandring

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Speaker 2: still keeps to keep the corgies, so you know it's

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Speaker 2: a biggie. Yeah, it's not the same kind of kick

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Speaker 2: to the curb that you know us us are commoners

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Speaker 2: would experience. No, but but humiliating. And the humiliation is

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Speaker 2: being piled on Andrew. If he could sweat, he would

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Speaker 2: sweat right now.

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Speaker 3: Said, have you ever reached the point where you couldn't

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Speaker 3: stand by a family member any more? Love to hear

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Speaker 3: your stories? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that

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Speaker 2: Just in this to hand. Beatrice and Eugenie's titles aren't

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Speaker 2: affected at all. They are both still princesses.

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Speaker 3: That is good news. They deserve that. It is a

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Speaker 3: quarter past one. Back in a mole. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Mett and Tyler. I hope you having a good Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 5: everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 6: Very good afternoon you.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about the former Prince Andrew situation where

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Speaker 3: he has been stripped of all his titles and honors

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Speaker 3: and from today henceforth will be known as simply Andrew

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Speaker 3: Mountbatten Windsor, of course because of as connections to the

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein scandal and con ongoing fall out from that.

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Speaker 3: But we've asked the wider question, have you ever been

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Speaker 3: in a situation where you've been forced to cut ties

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Speaker 3: with a member of your own family? And how did

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Speaker 3: that go? O? Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is that number to call? There's a couple of texts

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Speaker 3: coming through on nine two nine two.

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Speaker 2: So as Andrew now royal formerly known as Prince like

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Speaker 2: when the singer Prince changed his name. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: think Andrew would want to change his name to the

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Speaker 2: love sexy sixth symbol like Prince did. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that would go very well. I feel King Charles did

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Speaker 2: the right thing in standing down Andrew of all his

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Speaker 2: royal entitlements. It shows he stands for it is right.

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Speaker 2: It's a shame not all families are like Charles cetera

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Speaker 2: when they know their siblings have gone wrong, it's from LEAs,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I think he's still without an Act of Parliament,

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Speaker 2: though I think he still can. I think he still

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Speaker 2: ate the line for the throat, right, don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you can. You can strip him of these titles

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Speaker 2: and such, but I think he is still legally entitled

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Speaker 2: to the throne after William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry Archie,

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Speaker 2: Lily Beet and then Andrew right.

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Speaker 6: So it's a long odds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but as I've said to you before, Tyler, don'd

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Speaker 2: have to poison You'd have to poison a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: There have to be a lot of poison in the

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Speaker 2: wine at family dinner before he got to become king

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Speaker 2: and then pardon himself.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long time since the royal family did

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Speaker 3: that sort of behavior. But you know, you never say never.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, definitely, definitely. Charles has definitely demonstrated

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Speaker 2: that he wants to distance the royal family as much

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Speaker 2: as he can from from what do you call him now.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Andrew Moreton windsor yeah, just Andrew, Yeah, Oh, one

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. So

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Speaker 3: how do you think King Charles handled this and also

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Speaker 3: have you had to fall out with a member of

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Speaker 3: your family, Beryl, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 8: Hello there, gentlemen, listen. I just want to give a

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Speaker 8: slightly different spin that girl is. Although she might have

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Speaker 8: collected money from Andrew to keep quiet, she's certainly speaking

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Speaker 8: from the grave now through her book. And you know,

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Speaker 8: I just feel that if Andrew didn't want to stay

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Speaker 8: he could have done what old Harry did and stepped

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Speaker 8: aside and given it all up, and then he could

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Speaker 8: be whoever he wanted. Not that I'm approving the way

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Speaker 8: that he's acted it all. And you know, I just

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Speaker 8: feel very much that he was and I mean it's

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Speaker 8: not in a horrible word, but he's big, fat and

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Speaker 8: ugly enough to know that he represents, because he chooses

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Speaker 8: to carry on with it, that he represents the royal

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Speaker 8: family or the firm as the Queen used to call it,

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Speaker 8: and he knows he's got to be careful who he

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Speaker 8: mixes with and who he talks to and all the

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Speaker 8: rest of it, because you're under the constant scrutiny as

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Speaker 8: I think he's been indulged and spoiled too much. Maybe

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Speaker 8: the Queen gave him too much of a loose leash.

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Speaker 8: And it's sad really, because academically he must have had

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Speaker 8: something up top gentlemen to have been flying those choppers

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Speaker 8: during the that war that he was involved in, beginning

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Speaker 8: with the Fulton's Law, he must have had a bit

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Speaker 8: of uptop. But he's got no practical sense and he

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Speaker 8: just bought it on himself and for me, at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, this is what I hope will

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Speaker 8: go on with him, but I doubt it. You've got

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Speaker 8: to have the discomfsent and then from that proceeds growth.

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Speaker 8: So I hope that he grows up in a more

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Speaker 8: practical way than what he's already done. But he couldn't

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Speaker 8: carry on with the way that he was, And yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's a bit of a sad ending. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 8: but yeah, no, he just either step aside. If you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I think free spirit would be a

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Speaker 2: very generous way to describe Prince Andrew. As for growing up.

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Speaker 2: He's got his gold card, hasn't he, Prince Andrew? He does.

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Speaker 2: He's sixty five years of age. I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: too late for him to change his spots? I mean,

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Speaker 2: can he redeem himself? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: It's a short runway. It's sixty five, not much more

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Speaker 3: time there for him. Thank you very much for your thoughts, Burial.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and he was hanging out with Epstein for a

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Speaker 2: very very long time. I think you first started hanging

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Speaker 2: out with him in nineteen ninety nine, So he was

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Speaker 2: he was powing around with Epstein for you know, a

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Speaker 2: good close to twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Long history of friendship, if that's what you call it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And as you mentioned before, it was that interview, that

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Speaker 3: must have been about five six years ago.

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Speaker 2: I think that the newsnight, and if you I reckon,

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Speaker 2: that would have been what two thousands and nineteen. That

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Speaker 2: was an absolute humiliator for Prince Andrew. That whole thing

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Speaker 2: about I don't sweat, so that the accusations that I

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Speaker 2: was all switty, I don't I have a problem where

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Speaker 2: I don't swis so well. In fifteen seconds later, a

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Speaker 3: Swisting, Yeah exactly. Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: about how can Charles has handled this? But we're also

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Speaker 3: keen to have a chat with you. If you're fallen

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Speaker 3: out with a family member? How did that go? How

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Speaker 3: family member that has done wrong? Really keen to get

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Speaker 3: your stories. Nine two ninety two is the text number?

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Speaker 2: Or do you want to go into bat for Randy? Andy? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: come on through it.

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Speaker 6: We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: Back to our discussion about what's happening with Andrew mount

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Speaker 3: Bats and windsor no longer Prince Andrew stripped of his

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Speaker 3: titles because of his connection with Jeffrey Epstein and the

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Speaker 3: ongoing fallout. But we're also asking what's happened when you've

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Speaker 3: had to turn your back on a family member of

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 6: Plenty of teachs coming through A nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Bill says when I was a kid, Andrew was a

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Speaker 2: hero flying helicopters in the Falkland Islands in the Falklands War.

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Speaker 2: What a fall from grace. Yeah, I mean it is

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Speaker 2: a massive fall from grace. I mean, the ongoing humiliation

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Speaker 2: for the royal family. It's it's it's quite horrible, isn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've had a ra rough five years. You've got Andrew,

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Speaker 2: he's bringing all kinds of sleeves onto the family. You've

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Speaker 2: got Prince Harry just absolutely gutter gutter pressing you and

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Speaker 2: revealing all your dirty laundry for money. So it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's a rough it's a rough position to be in, Grant.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Hey, hi, nat Tyler. How's the game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, very well, very well?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah's there that you know you've had someone

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Speaker 9: to do that. But may we've forgotten that King Charles

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Speaker 9: was cheating with Camilla. Well we wore he was chating

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Speaker 9: and you know she did, and I was cheating on him.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's how we get Harry that, you know,

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Speaker 9: people forget that his infidelity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess you'd say that that is

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Speaker 2: the infidelity, isn't isn't at the level of what is

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's ten point on the paper, didn't it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Charles probably he got a lot of headlines

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Speaker 3: that case he paid the price for that, and Andrews

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well you know you can't sort of do

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Speaker 1: But as the.

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Speaker 9: Family members, when my dad died, I admitt my brother

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Speaker 9: I think, like I'm sixty six now, but I kicked

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Speaker 9: pretty cool. But yeah, my brother is sort of like

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Speaker 9: to the funeral on the Friday, and I was getting

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Speaker 9: and like it's about told the judge that I'd drunk

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Speaker 9: I never liked you anyway, so year around.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So there you go. It's not only the Royal

435
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Speaker 2: family that's incredibly complicated.

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Speaker 6: Now that is a that is a tough situation. Grant

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Speaker 6: on all front.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot going on there. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your call mates.

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Speaker 3: We are taking your calls on O one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Have you ever had to turn your

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Speaker 3: back on a family member or kick them out of

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Speaker 3: the family. This is, of course, on the back of

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Speaker 3: Andrew no longer prince, being effectively stripped of his titles

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Speaker 3: and shunted to outside of the Royal family. Headlines with

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Speaker 3: Raylen coming up, I W one hundred eight eight ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number? Or nine two niney two is

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Speaker 3: the text number back in a.

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Speaker 1: Mo youth talks every headlines.

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Speaker 11: With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 11: The Royal family is cast out. Prince Andrew, as the

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Speaker 11: sexual assault scandal surrounding him becomes too great to ignore,

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Speaker 11: has been ordered to leave his residents at the Royal

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Speaker 11: Lodge on the Windsor estate and will now be known

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Speaker 11: as Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, Pluther and Southland will remain in

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Speaker 11: a state of emergency over the weekend and next week.

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Speaker 11: Following recent severe weather, more than three and a half

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Speaker 11: thousand households remain without power. Concerns more state schools could

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Speaker 11: face chartered takeovers from outside groups, as Auckland's Calston Boys

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Speaker 11: High School faces a bid to do so from youth

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Speaker 11: charity Banger His Education and well Being Trust Mean, while

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Speaker 11: two new charter schools for teenagers with autism will open

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Speaker 11: in Auckland and Wellington next year, designed to better support

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Speaker 11: students who struggle in traditional classrooms. The first direct Quantus

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Speaker 11: Auckland to Adelaide flight in twenty years takes off today.

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Speaker 11: The rerect will operate four times a week until May

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Speaker 11: next year, competing with their New Zealand Little Goose Bumpy

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Speaker 11: Moments What It's like to work in a theater deemed Haunted.

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Speaker 11: You can see the story at NZID Herald Premium. Back

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Speaker 11: to Matt Eath and Tyler Adam.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Raylean.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about the former Prince Andrew no

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Speaker 3: more he is and the process of being stripped of

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Speaker 3: all his titles and from henceforth will be known simply

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Speaker 3: as Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Although we can confirm that Andrew is still in the

477
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Speaker 2: line of succession. He is eighth in line, right, so

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Speaker 2: we can confirm that. So he's only got seven to

479
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Speaker 2: knock off and he's he's king now, I see before

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Speaker 2: to anyone want to stick up for Andrew, and a

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Speaker 2: bunch of people do so. Here's a text here on

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Speaker 2: Andy's side. What is Prince Andrew guilty of? Has not

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Speaker 2: been charged with anything, let alone convicted. It's all trial

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Speaker 2: by media. Royal family decision to strip him as is

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Speaker 2: about bringing the family into distribute. But remember he has

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Speaker 2: not faced any charges and is entitled to a presumption

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Speaker 2: of innocence or does that not apply to the rich

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Speaker 2: and famous? I mean that's true.

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Speaker 1: He is he.

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Speaker 2: Has not been convicted of anything, has he But this

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Speaker 2: textas here as I reckon, Andrew is going to prison

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Speaker 2: and the king knows it. That's why the King has

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Speaker 2: done this.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, thank you for those texts, and can't still

495
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Speaker 3: get to hear from you if you're backing Andrew. Oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, entertaining story.

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Speaker 12: Hey, I just wondering I ask a quick question before

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Speaker 12: again further, do you still like the Rolling Stones? Do

501
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Speaker 12: you still go and watch it? If they were playing

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Speaker 12: in town? Would you go and watch them?

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Speaker 13: Now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I absolutely would love the Rolling Stones. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I've seen them a couple of times. Fantastic. And you've

506
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Speaker 2: got to say Mickerson.

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Speaker 1: Good shame.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and Bill Wyman you'd cheer for him, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: I can see where you're going with this, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: can you say so.

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Speaker 12: So in his I'm not I don't put this. I

512
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Speaker 12: don't just get out there. I don't particularly like Andrew

513
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Speaker 12: and we're getting to that in a minute. But here's

514
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Speaker 12: the thing. I think he did the pr wrong because

515
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Speaker 12: we go with Bill Wyman. He in nineteen it was

516
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Speaker 12: the eighties, nineteen eighty eight, or sorry, nineteen eighty six,

517
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Speaker 12: so I remember I was about the same age as

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Speaker 12: the young lady he eventually married. He was seeing her

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Speaker 12: from the age of fourteen through who eventually married her.

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Speaker 12: Officially start going out with her at sixteen, then at

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Speaker 12: eighteen he married her, a lady called Mandy Smith because

522
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Speaker 12: she was from my town. So but I was encouraged

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Speaker 12: by her mother, just to put it in full context.

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Speaker 12: But we're all going He's fifty two or something at

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Speaker 12: that point, and there was a much a huge gap

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Speaker 12: between him and his age. I'd have to check the

527
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Speaker 12: exact date or his age compared to that, but we

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Speaker 12: still cheer now. I just saying Andrews should have my opinion,

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Speaker 12: he got bad pr by denying it when you can

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Speaker 12: see there's quite a good photo of him, you know,

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Speaker 12: in each other's arms, and he's everyone's smiling, looking quite happy.

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Speaker 12: He should he should have just said, yep, I had

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Speaker 12: a consensual relationship with her. Why are you looking into

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Speaker 12: my private affairs? I'm allowed to have He was divorced

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Speaker 12: at the time, and he was he wasn't you know,

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Speaker 12: he hasn't been accused of anything or he hasn't been

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Speaker 12: convicted of anything illegal. We're all trying him by by

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Speaker 12: media having said that, and I would say this, so

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Speaker 12: he was enjoying himself as I mean, I say this

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Speaker 12: from a little bit of knowledge. When I was I

541
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Speaker 12: was commissioned as an officer in the army. We had

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Speaker 12: a visit to his naval air base and unfortunately they said,

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Speaker 12: I'll come down. Unfortunately they said, can't get you out

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Speaker 12: of the flight at the moment, because every weekend or

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Speaker 12: lots of weekends. They were doing liaison exercises with at

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Speaker 12: working on the or riggs in north Sea, and they're

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Speaker 12: doing that with the Nouigian Forces, and they were spending

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Speaker 12: a lot of exercise time in Norway where apparently he

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Speaker 12: cut a dash amongst the local ladies and they're all

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Speaker 12: a big fan of him.

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Speaker 2: So Andry Andy, he wasn't Randy Andy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he was living up to his name. And the

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Speaker 12: other thing was but they did. One of the PTI's

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Speaker 12: there at Portland Naval Base did turn around and say, yeah,

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Speaker 12: they called behind his back, he's called him the fat

556
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Speaker 12: knacker or other words that effects. And he did sweat.

557
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Speaker 12: He definitely sweated.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy. That was that was a crazy defense

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Speaker 2: that you don't sweat. You know, if you defense, you

560
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Speaker 2: bed to be pretty sure that you don't. There's no

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Speaker 2: shots of you sweeting yeah from him. I mean that

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Speaker 2: that really lost him a lot of credibility. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mandy Smith was I didn't know anything about this Mandy

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Speaker 2: Smith and this Bill Wyman thing. But so she was

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Speaker 2: thirty three years younger than him at the time when

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Speaker 2: they they So he was forty seven. Oh what so Man.

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Speaker 12: When they first mats.

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Speaker 2: She met ron Stones Blasis Bill Wyman when she attended

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Speaker 2: the BPI Awards with her older sister Nicola and ninety four.

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Speaker 2: She was thirteen years old, woman was forty seven, but

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Speaker 2: wroten as nineteen ninety order bro of. She took my

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Speaker 2: breath away. She was a woman at thirteen cheapers. Whyman,

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Speaker 2: come on, he has he got away to give.

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Speaker 12: Bill.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I wouldn't go see them. I'd see McJagger, but

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe not Bill.

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Speaker 2: I'd hold up a sign saying I'm only cheering for Mac.

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Speaker 2: That's I'm just saying.

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Speaker 12: It's just saying, if we're gonna we're going to you know,

580
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Speaker 12: if we're going to judge one on one way, judge

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Speaker 12: everyone the same and so and so. It's you know,

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Speaker 12: it's just I think he basically by denying it, he

583
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Speaker 12: dug his own grave.

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Speaker 2: But what about the I mean, I mean, to be fair,

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Speaker 2: Bill Wyman hasn't been in the Rolling Stones for what

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Speaker 2: thirty years? Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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00:29:01,253 --> 00:29:02,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you go to the Rolling Stones, you

589
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Speaker 2: don't have to you don't have to suck it up

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Speaker 2: and cheer for Bill Wyman. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: And thank God for that. Just on the you'll play

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Speaker 2: the records, Yeah, but just on.

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Speaker 6: The Andrew situation, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just keep coming back to that payout

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Speaker 3: and it was undisclosed, but a reported twelve million pounds

596
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Speaker 3: that he paid to Virginia Dufrey. You know, why does

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Speaker 3: an innocent man pay out if he hasn't done the crime?

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Speaker 3: And I think that's when it all started to unravel.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, sometimes people just pay out to make the

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Speaker 2: story go away. Yeah, I mean that's definitely happened.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the Ryal I think the Royal family

602
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Speaker 12: has a policy of just make it go away. Because

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Speaker 12: the Royal family, you don't they have a I don't

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Speaker 12: know if their policy is that you never go to

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Speaker 12: court or you never go into court and argue. Okay,

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Speaker 12: so Harry's case, but since he's left, since he's left

607
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Speaker 12: the Royal family, but yeah, or left the firm, well

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Speaker 12: I think you could, but don't complain, don't explain.

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Speaker 1: Rule that's gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean as a from a PR perspective,

611
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Speaker 2: but also you could say, when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: what does what is King Charles really done here? He's

613
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Speaker 2: not throwing his brother out on the street. He's just

614
00:30:08,413 --> 00:30:11,093
Speaker 2: you know, this guy's eighth in line for the throne.

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Speaker 2: All he said is that, you know, you no longer

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Speaker 2: get called royal highness when you're when you're mucking around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Prince Andrew has much fun out in public anyway.

618
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Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's a symbolic more than anything.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not you know, it's not. He's not

620
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Speaker 2: gonna end up on the street. He's not going to starve.

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Speaker 2: He's you know, he's just he's a sendering of the state.

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Speaker 12: He's he's going to be called the aristocrat formerly known

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Speaker 12: as Prince.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good or or but he's the one thing.

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Speaker 12: As a military thing, he's still the only everything Honore

626
00:30:44,013 --> 00:30:47,373
Speaker 12: has been has been taken from him. In twenty twenty two,

627
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Speaker 12: he can still use the word commander that commander Bond

628
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Speaker 12: He's yeah, right Bank, and so you do retain that

629
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Speaker 12: if he wants to use it.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question as a person that

631
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Speaker 2: was was in the British Forces, when these royal family members,

632
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Speaker 2: you know, get into you know, the elite of training

633
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Speaker 2: to be you know, a helicopter pilot, you know, you

634
00:31:11,413 --> 00:31:13,453
Speaker 2: have to do pretty well, do they get any prefer

635
00:31:13,453 --> 00:31:16,013
Speaker 2: original treatment to get in there. Does you know Harry

636
00:31:16,093 --> 00:31:20,533
Speaker 2: and Andrew get an inside track to become a helicopter

637
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Speaker 2: pilot or do they get there purely on their own merits?

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Speaker 12: I am so glad you asked me that, because I did.

639
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Speaker 12: I did air in utital engineering and I applied and

640
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Speaker 12: they said no, and I got to the to the

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Speaker 12: Royal Engineers eventually. The pure the selection is is it's

642
00:31:43,613 --> 00:31:47,533
Speaker 12: it is swayed for them, shall we say? And it's

643
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,213
Speaker 12: the selection is is so tough for that. I mean,

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Speaker 12: they're the best job s final helicopters in the Army

645
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Speaker 12: and in the Air Force, and being a pilot of

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Speaker 12: any nature, if you go, if they ever made fast jets,

647
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Speaker 12: looks the fast jets is a step up again which

648
00:32:02,093 --> 00:32:05,173
Speaker 12: they never learned to fy helicopters, is you know. But

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Speaker 12: in the Army we're quite proud that we turn around

650
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Speaker 12: so we can teach the junior ranks that we have

651
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Speaker 12: corporal supply helicopters and the officers run the air war

652
00:32:13,813 --> 00:32:17,173
Speaker 12: or the battle space they call it now the battle space,

653
00:32:18,253 --> 00:32:21,813
Speaker 12: so they fly it from the observer's seat, so to speak.

654
00:32:22,453 --> 00:32:27,213
Speaker 12: But it's something I applied for nah. Sorry, So there

655
00:32:27,293 --> 00:32:28,933
Speaker 12: is the favoritism.

656
00:32:29,333 --> 00:32:33,773
Speaker 2: Blue blood blood the Wheels, and.

657
00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:36,453
Speaker 12: I don't mind it as long as they accept that. Yeah,

658
00:32:36,493 --> 00:32:40,693
Speaker 12: we do actually get a bit preferential and other things.

659
00:32:40,693 --> 00:32:45,333
Speaker 12: When you look at Andrews's career, he got he's also

660
00:32:46,093 --> 00:32:47,773
Speaker 12: how to the guy he did do his commando of

661
00:32:47,813 --> 00:32:50,173
Speaker 12: course when he's very very young, nineteen years old. I

662
00:32:50,253 --> 00:32:53,573
Speaker 12: did that course. I failed, but I gave it the

663
00:32:53,653 --> 00:32:57,013
Speaker 12: best go. But it was a real tough course. He

664
00:32:57,053 --> 00:33:01,893
Speaker 12: did it, but he managed to do it. He managed

665
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:05,133
Speaker 12: to do it before he got trained as a trained rank.

666
00:33:05,933 --> 00:33:07,813
Speaker 12: No one else ever gets that exception. You have to

667
00:33:07,813 --> 00:33:10,093
Speaker 12: be a trained before you do the alarms commando of course,

668
00:33:10,333 --> 00:33:12,613
Speaker 12: or you go straight in as rule to the Raal

669
00:33:12,613 --> 00:33:16,573
Speaker 12: Marines to do that training first. So he got exceptions there.

670
00:33:17,013 --> 00:33:21,013
Speaker 12: So you know, it does annoy some people something, and

671
00:33:21,053 --> 00:33:24,333
Speaker 12: I'm a little bit annoyed about the helicopter stuff. But

672
00:33:25,373 --> 00:33:28,093
Speaker 12: they do actually do a proper job with going talking

673
00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:29,973
Speaker 12: to other people who knew them and work with them

674
00:33:29,973 --> 00:33:31,253
Speaker 12: in the forces. They're always very good.

675
00:33:32,293 --> 00:33:35,413
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, thank you, Kevin, thank you for your inside

676
00:33:35,453 --> 00:33:37,213
Speaker 2: analysis on that and around the Falkland Islands.

677
00:33:37,253 --> 00:33:40,213
Speaker 3: Appreciate fascinating. Oh one hundred and eightyeen eighty is that

678
00:33:40,293 --> 00:33:43,013
Speaker 3: number of call. We're talking about Andrew formerly Prince Andrew.

679
00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:45,533
Speaker 3: How do you feel about him being stripped of his titles?

680
00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:47,813
Speaker 3: And if you've ever had a falling out with a

681
00:33:47,813 --> 00:33:51,093
Speaker 3: family member, how did that work out it? There's fourteen

682
00:33:51,293 --> 00:33:52,933
Speaker 3: to two.

683
00:33:53,373 --> 00:33:56,573
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

684
00:33:56,693 --> 00:33:59,493
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty, ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Tyler Adams

685
00:33:59,653 --> 00:34:01,053
Speaker 1: Afternoons news talks.

686
00:34:01,053 --> 00:34:02,893
Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon. Sure.

687
00:34:02,893 --> 00:34:06,573
Speaker 3: It is eleven minutes to two, and we're talking about

688
00:34:06,973 --> 00:34:10,413
Speaker 3: the Andrew situation with the family. He's no longer Prince Andrew.

689
00:34:10,413 --> 00:34:13,053
Speaker 3: He is gonna has been stripped of his titles and

690
00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:16,652
Speaker 3: his honors for his connection to the Jeffrey Epstein sexual

691
00:34:16,693 --> 00:34:19,533
Speaker 3: assault allegations. So ken to hear your thoughts on how

692
00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:21,573
Speaker 3: that was handled and also if you had a falling

693
00:34:21,613 --> 00:34:23,053
Speaker 3: out in your own family, what happened?

694
00:34:23,053 --> 00:34:26,133
Speaker 2: Did you have to turn your back on somebody? Someone's

695
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:31,733
Speaker 2: just texting just sweet un rockstar, just sweet un something something?

696
00:34:32,333 --> 00:34:32,533
Speaker 10: You know?

697
00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:35,333
Speaker 6: That song no is a Bill Bill Wyman.

698
00:34:35,813 --> 00:34:39,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Wyman's he had a hit signal with I

699
00:34:39,813 --> 00:34:43,013
Speaker 2: guess what a punishing song Jessun Rockstar. A bunch of

700
00:34:43,013 --> 00:34:45,293
Speaker 2: people are texting that in. But that's not what we're

701
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:48,013
Speaker 2: talking about. We're not talking about bloody Bill Wyman and

702
00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:51,213
Speaker 2: his dodgy activities. We're talking about Randy Andy here. Hi, guys,

703
00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:56,693
Speaker 2: first and foremost, I absolutely don't condone anything that Andrew

704
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:59,493
Speaker 2: has done or not done. But there are several other

705
00:34:59,653 --> 00:35:04,293
Speaker 2: very high profile men who have had interactions with this girl,

706
00:35:04,733 --> 00:35:08,732
Speaker 2: says Penny, when she was underage. Why is it that

707
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:13,172
Speaker 2: these very high profile gentlemen have been given animate anonimity.

708
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:16,973
Speaker 2: They are referred to in her book, but no names.

709
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:18,973
Speaker 2: Is it because they have no money in which to

710
00:35:18,973 --> 00:35:21,773
Speaker 2: buy silence? Or perhaps they have more money than the

711
00:35:21,853 --> 00:35:24,293
Speaker 2: queen paid out. There is a lot of hawks in

712
00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:29,333
Speaker 2: the story and many, many questions remain unanswered. That's from Penny.

713
00:35:30,373 --> 00:35:39,613
Speaker 2: So the accusations against the primary accusations against Andrew from

714
00:35:40,773 --> 00:35:46,933
Speaker 2: what's the name Giuffrey, and she says that he abused

715
00:35:46,973 --> 00:35:51,413
Speaker 2: her when she was seventeen. That's the accusation, isn't it

716
00:35:51,453 --> 00:35:52,973
Speaker 2: the primary accusation there?

717
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:56,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, And there's obviously that well known photo that

718
00:35:56,253 --> 00:35:59,213
Speaker 3: many of us would seem when these allegations first emerged.

719
00:36:00,013 --> 00:36:02,172
Speaker 3: I will agree with Penny right that last line. There's

720
00:36:02,213 --> 00:36:04,773
Speaker 3: a lot of unanswered questions in this whole Sagon, no

721
00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:07,652
Speaker 3: doubt about that. But I think Andrew got himself into

722
00:36:07,653 --> 00:36:09,813
Speaker 3: trouble with that of you. He got himself in trouble

723
00:36:09,813 --> 00:36:12,933
Speaker 3: by denying he'd ever met Virginia Jiu Frey and then

724
00:36:12,973 --> 00:36:15,732
Speaker 3: that photo emerged, So he dug himself into this hole

725
00:36:16,093 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 3: and then had to try and backpedal that by the denials.

726
00:36:19,613 --> 00:36:22,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So Virginia Gufray sued Andrew and the

727
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,373
Speaker 2: US under the Child Victims Act, accusing him of sexual

728
00:36:25,453 --> 00:36:29,333
Speaker 2: assault and intentional infliction of emotional distress. This was back

729
00:36:29,373 --> 00:36:32,652
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one when she sued Dufre claims three

730
00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,933
Speaker 2: encounters with Andrew when she was seventeen in two thousand

731
00:36:35,973 --> 00:36:37,933
Speaker 2: and one in London, later in New York and on

732
00:36:38,013 --> 00:36:42,133
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's private island. Flight logs and other documents show

733
00:36:42,173 --> 00:36:46,653
Speaker 2: Andrew was in places. Giufrey alleges the meetings took place.

734
00:36:47,213 --> 00:36:52,173
Speaker 2: Andrew strenuously denies wrongdoing. The seven civil case was settled

735
00:36:52,213 --> 00:36:55,213
Speaker 2: out of court in twenty twenty two without admission of liability.

736
00:36:55,373 --> 00:36:57,373
Speaker 3: Yeah right, we're a little bit late. We're going to

737
00:36:57,373 --> 00:36:59,973
Speaker 3: play some messages, but we'll take another couple of calls

738
00:36:59,973 --> 00:37:01,893
Speaker 3: on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

739
00:37:02,013 --> 00:37:02,613
Speaker 6: Back in a mow.

740
00:37:02,733 --> 00:37:04,133
Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to two.

741
00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:09,653
Speaker 1: Matties Taylor Adams seeking your calls on oh, eight hundred

742
00:37:09,653 --> 00:37:13,773
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

743
00:37:13,173 --> 00:37:17,773
Speaker 3: News dogsb news Dogs there be. It is five to two.

744
00:37:18,453 --> 00:37:21,172
Speaker 3: We've only got about sixty seconds. Treever, But you reckon

745
00:37:21,213 --> 00:37:22,493
Speaker 3: Andrew should still be a prince?

746
00:37:23,453 --> 00:37:25,533
Speaker 4: Oh no, not really. I just want to say, first

747
00:37:25,533 --> 00:37:28,253
Speaker 4: of all, he got what he his action, he got

748
00:37:28,253 --> 00:37:30,652
Speaker 4: the consequences. I don't really care. Do you find her

749
00:37:30,693 --> 00:37:32,893
Speaker 4: appropriate if I say a couple of things about Virginia

750
00:37:32,893 --> 00:37:33,933
Speaker 4: and the other big part.

751
00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:37,093
Speaker 3: In the story, Yeah, why not? Let's roll that dice.

752
00:37:37,853 --> 00:37:40,893
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because you know i'd like to know. I mean,

753
00:37:40,933 --> 00:37:43,133
Speaker 4: we don't have I mean, you wouldn't believe everything in

754
00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,133
Speaker 4: her book, which I hope people don't read her book

755
00:37:45,173 --> 00:37:48,053
Speaker 4: and believe everything that's boot bored by her and friends

756
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 4: is all true. And you know, i'd like to know

757
00:37:50,813 --> 00:37:53,613
Speaker 4: if that her that was her job, that was her

758
00:37:53,693 --> 00:37:57,773
Speaker 4: chosen sport job, sport job and what she'd done, and

759
00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:00,253
Speaker 4: was she a working lady, which is okay because in

760
00:38:00,293 --> 00:38:02,973
Speaker 4: some countries that age is legal and other countries it's not.

761
00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:05,173
Speaker 4: And it's just hard to believe that she got on

762
00:38:05,173 --> 00:38:08,013
Speaker 4: a plane at least four or five times going to

763
00:38:08,053 --> 00:38:10,973
Speaker 4: watch know she was going to but she didn't do

764
00:38:11,093 --> 00:38:13,333
Speaker 4: anything about it, like what did you get on the plane?

765
00:38:13,373 --> 00:38:13,692
Speaker 14: Of course?

766
00:38:13,973 --> 00:38:16,573
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could argue that she was she

767
00:38:16,653 --> 00:38:21,693
Speaker 2: was incredibly young and naive manipulated.

768
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:23,652
Speaker 4: Matt seventeen and eighteen naive.

769
00:38:23,933 --> 00:38:26,853
Speaker 2: Well, she was sixteen at the first connection and seventeen

770
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:30,333
Speaker 2: by the time the three encounters with Andrew took place.

771
00:38:31,373 --> 00:38:33,453
Speaker 4: I think what she was for taking and she was

772
00:38:33,493 --> 00:38:36,573
Speaker 4: a naive to that lady. You know, even guys aren't

773
00:38:36,573 --> 00:38:39,053
Speaker 4: too annive to that sort of behavior. I'm sure they're not.

774
00:38:39,413 --> 00:38:41,173
Speaker 2: But do you go, they've got that, We've got that

775
00:38:41,213 --> 00:38:43,093
Speaker 2: opinion out there, Treva. Thank you for that. Sorry, we've

776
00:38:43,133 --> 00:38:45,333
Speaker 2: just run out of time here. Yeah, and we're three sounds.

777
00:38:45,413 --> 00:38:47,493
Speaker 2: I'm shutting you down. It's not it's re front out

778
00:38:47,493 --> 00:38:47,773
Speaker 2: of the time.

779
00:38:47,853 --> 00:38:49,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, the news is hot on our tail. But thank

780
00:38:49,453 --> 00:38:51,573
Speaker 3: you very much, Trevor. That's a grenade, right, at the

781
00:38:51,693 --> 00:38:52,573
Speaker 3: end of the out and a.

782
00:38:52,573 --> 00:38:55,853
Speaker 2: Lot of people agree with Trevor John saying, let's not

783
00:38:56,173 --> 00:38:58,533
Speaker 2: stop using her as an accurate source of informations. A

784
00:38:58,533 --> 00:38:59,813
Speaker 2: lot of people agree with you, Trevor.

785
00:39:00,013 --> 00:39:00,573
Speaker 6: Yeah.

786
00:39:00,613 --> 00:39:03,573
Speaker 3: There'll be plenty more to that story as the afternoon

787
00:39:03,573 --> 00:39:05,253
Speaker 3: progresses in over the next couple of weeks.

788
00:39:05,253 --> 00:39:07,053
Speaker 6: But thank you very much for that one.

789
00:39:07,173 --> 00:39:10,053
Speaker 3: After two o'clock, let's have a chat about how much

790
00:39:10,093 --> 00:39:11,853
Speaker 3: it costs to actually raise a child.

791
00:39:11,853 --> 00:39:13,253
Speaker 6: You've got a good opinion on this, Matt.

792
00:39:13,653 --> 00:39:16,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've just found out some shocking, further shocking

793
00:39:17,013 --> 00:39:19,013
Speaker 2: details to the Bill Wyman story. Oh my goodness, I'll

794
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:19,413
Speaker 2: share that.

795
00:39:19,533 --> 00:39:20,613
Speaker 6: Okay, this is going to be good.

796
00:39:20,693 --> 00:39:23,493
Speaker 3: That is coming up very shortly newd Sport and we're

797
00:39:23,573 --> 00:39:26,733
Speaker 3: a fast approaching great debut company on this Friday afternoon.

798
00:39:26,733 --> 00:39:28,733
Speaker 6: I hope you're doing well. Stay right here. We'll be

799
00:39:28,773 --> 00:39:29,493
Speaker 6: back shortly.

800
00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:37,333
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

801
00:39:37,373 --> 00:39:39,173
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

802
00:39:39,213 --> 00:39:42,133
Speaker 3: It'd be get ad you welcome back into the show.

803
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:46,013
Speaker 3: Six past two. Just before we get into the next topic,

804
00:39:46,773 --> 00:39:48,813
Speaker 3: there was quite a few texts in regards to Bill

805
00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 3: Wyman coming through Man.

806
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:54,893
Speaker 2: Yes, so Bill Wyman, the former Rolling Stones bassist. So

807
00:39:54,973 --> 00:39:58,333
Speaker 2: he started a relationship with Mandy Smith when he was thirty,

808
00:39:58,453 --> 00:40:02,253
Speaker 2: four years her senior senior. They married in nineteen eighty

809
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:06,733
Speaker 2: nine when she was eighteen. Then what happened was Bill

810
00:40:06,813 --> 00:40:13,813
Speaker 2: Wyman's son, Stephen, married Mandy Smith's mother, Patsy. Right, so

811
00:40:13,973 --> 00:40:17,093
Speaker 2: Bill became his own son's father in law and Mandy's

812
00:40:17,173 --> 00:40:21,533
Speaker 2: mom became her daughter in law. That's messy, That is messy.

813
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:27,333
Speaker 2: Mandy was both Bill's wife and his stepmother, and Steven

814
00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:30,093
Speaker 2: was both Bill's son and his stepfather.

815
00:40:31,893 --> 00:40:33,212
Speaker 6: That is a lot to unpack there.

816
00:40:33,453 --> 00:40:35,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could argue the mess probably works a

817
00:40:35,613 --> 00:40:38,493
Speaker 3: bit better with the son and the mother hooking up

818
00:40:38,573 --> 00:40:40,213
Speaker 3: is probably a little bit closer aligned.

819
00:40:40,493 --> 00:40:43,253
Speaker 2: I think she was thirty forty six and he.

820
00:40:43,213 --> 00:40:45,493
Speaker 3: Was thirty right, yeah, yeah, see, nothing wrong with that.

821
00:40:46,053 --> 00:40:47,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.

822
00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:51,293
Speaker 2: But that is fascinating. I don't think it lasted. And

823
00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:54,213
Speaker 2: this six says great show. I hung out with Dave Wyman,

824
00:40:54,293 --> 00:40:56,692
Speaker 2: Bill's brother, and the Caribbean back twenty five years ago,

825
00:40:56,813 --> 00:41:00,333
Speaker 2: great painter and fisherman. The island was a vos Ven duke.

826
00:41:00,493 --> 00:41:02,853
Speaker 2: Oh nice, that's from Andy, very good. There we go

827
00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:05,693
Speaker 2: love the next week and that ends there. Bill Wyman

828
00:41:05,813 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 2: chat and move on to the new topic. Yes, and

829
00:41:08,893 --> 00:41:10,652
Speaker 2: this new topic, it's going to be a doozy. Actually,

830
00:41:10,733 --> 00:41:12,893
Speaker 2: how much does it really cost to raise a child

831
00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:15,813
Speaker 2: in New Zealand? So some new analysis was done and

832
00:41:15,853 --> 00:41:17,893
Speaker 2: I'll put the price tag of your first child at

833
00:41:17,933 --> 00:41:21,293
Speaker 2: around three hundred and forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years.

834
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,333
Speaker 2: With each additional child they're a bit cheaper. They still

835
00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:27,933
Speaker 2: cost around two hundred and sixty one thousand. Interestingly, though,

836
00:41:27,973 --> 00:41:30,893
Speaker 2: while these numbers seem pretty high, the cost hasn't actually

837
00:41:30,933 --> 00:41:34,533
Speaker 2: gone up that much compared to past decades. And this

838
00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:37,652
Speaker 2: is all in line with more couples who say they

839
00:41:37,653 --> 00:41:39,853
Speaker 2: don't want to have kids at the moment.

840
00:41:39,693 --> 00:41:42,853
Speaker 3: Because they reckon they're too expensive. Yes, so it hasn't

841
00:41:42,893 --> 00:41:46,133
Speaker 3: really changed in twenty years yea. All that say, the

842
00:41:46,173 --> 00:41:46,973
Speaker 3: birth rate.

843
00:41:46,813 --> 00:41:52,093
Speaker 2: Has dropped significantly, and also the reason given for not

844
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:57,933
Speaker 2: having children being expense has increased. So the perception out

845
00:41:57,933 --> 00:41:59,893
Speaker 2: there is that it s it's more expensive now to

846
00:41:59,933 --> 00:42:01,853
Speaker 2: have children than it was twenty years ago, when that

847
00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:05,493
Speaker 2: isn't actually the truth. So that is interesting, and what

848
00:42:05,493 --> 00:42:07,573
Speaker 2: are we talking about here and for that, what was

849
00:42:07,613 --> 00:42:09,813
Speaker 2: that the figures three hundred and what to bring up

850
00:42:09,813 --> 00:42:11,733
Speaker 2: a kid to adeen? Is that the premium package? Is

851
00:42:11,773 --> 00:42:13,172
Speaker 2: that a supreme childhood or.

852
00:42:13,213 --> 00:42:14,773
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good point. Is that the no frills

853
00:42:14,853 --> 00:42:17,133
Speaker 3: is our retirement commissioner calls? Or is that the choices

854
00:42:17,213 --> 00:42:19,493
Speaker 3: child three hundred and forty one. So that breaks it

855
00:42:19,573 --> 00:42:23,093
Speaker 3: down to for your first child eighteen thousand dollars per year.

856
00:42:23,333 --> 00:42:26,613
Speaker 3: And that is of course on things like close schooling, food,

857
00:42:27,613 --> 00:42:35,053
Speaker 3: outside activity, sports, and the list goes on. But that's races, braces,

858
00:42:35,133 --> 00:42:37,453
Speaker 3: your braces, that's that's eighteen k right there.

859
00:42:37,733 --> 00:42:39,973
Speaker 2: But a bean but a boom nah. Both my son's

860
00:42:40,053 --> 00:42:43,533
Speaker 2: braces cost twelve thousand each, okay, right around on twelve

861
00:42:43,573 --> 00:42:45,773
Speaker 2: thousand each. Yeah, yeah, you know, and it was going

862
00:42:45,773 --> 00:42:47,213
Speaker 2: to be right. And I always knew that I was

863
00:42:47,213 --> 00:42:51,732
Speaker 2: going to have to pay for braces so very early on,

864
00:42:51,773 --> 00:42:55,613
Speaker 2: because when we had our first child, we weren't necessarily

865
00:42:55,653 --> 00:42:58,292
Speaker 2: that flush cash wise, so we started putting cash away

866
00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:00,413
Speaker 2: for the braces very early. That is, it was easy

867
00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:02,133
Speaker 2: that there was a that was a cake walk. We

868
00:43:02,173 --> 00:43:04,253
Speaker 2: would have the cash braces. That was fine.

869
00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:05,253
Speaker 6: That is a good strategy.

870
00:43:05,293 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 2: But we did guilt them into doing them. You know,

871
00:43:07,413 --> 00:43:10,493
Speaker 2: properly cost twelve thousand dollars to put your bloody rubber

872
00:43:10,533 --> 00:43:12,933
Speaker 2: bands on your ungrateful little bastard. That kind of thing.

873
00:43:12,973 --> 00:43:14,813
Speaker 2: They were tough, did that kind of quality parenting?

874
00:43:14,853 --> 00:43:17,212
Speaker 6: Did you have braces? Did you have to go through that?

875
00:43:17,333 --> 00:43:19,613
Speaker 2: I was born with perfect teeth. I can tell when

876
00:43:19,853 --> 00:43:21,293
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I'd go the dental nurse and

877
00:43:21,293 --> 00:43:23,733
Speaker 2: they would just go, oh my god, these are the

878
00:43:23,733 --> 00:43:25,333
Speaker 2: best teeth. That call people in the have the room

879
00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:28,333
Speaker 2: to see the teeth. And then I've subsequently had the

880
00:43:28,413 --> 00:43:31,893
Speaker 2: knocked out four times, I believe. So, yeahs my punishment

881
00:43:31,933 --> 00:43:33,853
Speaker 2: for having perfect teeth. They were too they were too

882
00:43:33,893 --> 00:43:37,813
Speaker 2: beautiful to exist, too beautiful for this world. Oh it's

883
00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:41,693
Speaker 2: not about me, it's about our kids. Really that expensive,

884
00:43:41,733 --> 00:43:44,733
Speaker 2: I would argue, and this is kind of a philosophical argue,

885
00:43:44,733 --> 00:43:47,133
Speaker 2: but argument but I was making yesterday. I'd argue that

886
00:43:47,133 --> 00:43:50,093
Speaker 2: they cost nothing, because what's the point of working or

887
00:43:50,093 --> 00:43:52,853
Speaker 2: doing anything if it's not for your family. That that

888
00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:56,573
Speaker 2: is the best money you'll ever spend. That is just life.

889
00:43:57,173 --> 00:44:01,093
Speaker 2: You have children, provide what they want, and that is

890
00:44:01,133 --> 00:44:04,013
Speaker 2: a meaningful existence. That is that is that is the

891
00:44:04,053 --> 00:44:08,013
Speaker 2: most meaningful existence you can possibly have. I would say

892
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:12,493
Speaker 2: that there's no there's nothing better you could spend your

893
00:44:12,493 --> 00:44:16,573
Speaker 2: money on than your kids. And look if you don't

894
00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:21,333
Speaker 2: go for the full social media family. So yeah, you know,

895
00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:24,373
Speaker 2: there's some people that feel like they need their kids

896
00:44:24,453 --> 00:44:29,853
Speaker 2: to their kids reflect on them, so so you know,

897
00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:32,373
Speaker 2: how flash their kids are, what their kids are doing,

898
00:44:32,733 --> 00:44:36,253
Speaker 2: where their kids go and such and begins them. For

899
00:44:36,253 --> 00:44:37,573
Speaker 2: the want of a better word, because I don't think

900
00:44:37,573 --> 00:44:39,013
Speaker 2: it biggins is actually a word. In fact, I think

901
00:44:39,013 --> 00:44:41,173
Speaker 2: there's a joke and the Simpsons about people using the

902
00:44:41,173 --> 00:44:43,493
Speaker 2: word and biggins. But if you see what I mean,

903
00:44:44,413 --> 00:44:46,453
Speaker 2: there's there's an amount of you know, you can you

904
00:44:46,453 --> 00:44:48,253
Speaker 2: can lavish a lot on your kids just so you

905
00:44:48,293 --> 00:44:51,733
Speaker 2: look good, right, and you can spend spend a lot,

906
00:44:51,933 --> 00:44:55,693
Speaker 2: but I don't. I seriously think kids were a lot

907
00:44:55,773 --> 00:44:57,853
Speaker 2: cheaper than I thought they would be, so, you know,

908
00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:00,773
Speaker 2: especially right at the start, they cost essentially nothing at

909
00:45:00,813 --> 00:45:03,853
Speaker 2: the start. Yeah, you know, you get your family. I've

910
00:45:03,853 --> 00:45:07,453
Speaker 2: got three sisters. We just got showered and baby clothes

911
00:45:07,813 --> 00:45:12,053
Speaker 2: as soon as our kids came out. And then you

912
00:45:12,093 --> 00:45:14,772
Speaker 2: know they don't eat much when they're little.

913
00:45:14,853 --> 00:45:16,733
Speaker 6: Yep, in a lot of HAMI dance.

914
00:45:16,733 --> 00:45:20,613
Speaker 2: And the huge desire that that comes over you to

915
00:45:20,653 --> 00:45:22,893
Speaker 2: go and make more money than you've ever made before

916
00:45:22,973 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 2: to make sure that they're okay. Actually leads, I would

917
00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:28,133
Speaker 2: say to you, being a lot richer.

918
00:45:28,253 --> 00:45:30,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'd make copetually, you'd make other cuts in

919
00:45:30,653 --> 00:45:32,373
Speaker 3: your life, right that if you're worried about having a kid,

920
00:45:32,413 --> 00:45:33,973
Speaker 3: then you have a kid, and you think, Jesus can

921
00:45:34,013 --> 00:45:36,693
Speaker 3: I afford it? You make it work, because it doesn't

922
00:45:36,693 --> 00:45:38,653
Speaker 3: really matter how much that child is going to cost.

923
00:45:38,853 --> 00:45:41,493
Speaker 2: You will find that much. I've never really thought of

924
00:45:41,573 --> 00:45:44,333
Speaker 2: spending money on kids. I've never thought of it that way,

925
00:45:44,373 --> 00:45:46,453
Speaker 2: like you might spend money on a car, or you

926
00:45:46,533 --> 00:45:48,453
Speaker 2: might spend money on a renovation of your house. I

927
00:45:48,493 --> 00:45:51,573
Speaker 2: just don't think it's the same thing. Yeah, that kids

928
00:45:51,973 --> 00:45:54,493
Speaker 2: are these things. You love them, You've brought them into

929
00:45:54,533 --> 00:45:57,173
Speaker 2: the world. They're the most important thing that's ever happened

930
00:45:57,173 --> 00:45:59,813
Speaker 2: to you, and there's a certain amount of money for

931
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 2: their upkeep, and you just never think about it. You

932
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:03,853
Speaker 2: just that that's just why you're working.

933
00:46:04,013 --> 00:46:06,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you say, oh, eight hundred and eighty

934
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:08,252
Speaker 3: ten eighty do you agree with Matt that kids cost

935
00:46:08,413 --> 00:46:11,573
Speaker 3: pretty much nothing, and of course you're going to find

936
00:46:11,573 --> 00:46:14,172
Speaker 3: the money if you decide to have kids. Oh one

937
00:46:14,253 --> 00:46:15,813
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

938
00:46:15,933 --> 00:46:19,093
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number.

939
00:46:19,373 --> 00:46:22,533
Speaker 2: That Texas says. It costs your soul as well. He does.

940
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:24,973
Speaker 2: I was actually talking to a friend on the plane

941
00:46:24,973 --> 00:46:26,613
Speaker 2: on the way down and they were saying, we were

942
00:46:26,613 --> 00:46:28,933
Speaker 2: just talking about when you first have a young baby

943
00:46:29,413 --> 00:46:31,573
Speaker 2: and you're looking at it and it's such a cross

944
00:46:31,613 --> 00:46:36,053
Speaker 2: between absolute love to the point it hurts your heart

945
00:46:36,813 --> 00:46:39,453
Speaker 2: mixed with pure terror at the state of the world

946
00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:42,613
Speaker 2: and how you have to protect this thing and how

947
00:46:42,653 --> 00:46:43,813
Speaker 2: you're responsible for it.

948
00:46:43,893 --> 00:46:44,773
Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to that.

949
00:46:44,853 --> 00:46:47,973
Speaker 2: Right it is it does. It begins your soul, but

950
00:46:48,013 --> 00:46:49,573
Speaker 2: it also tortures your soul.

951
00:46:50,173 --> 00:46:52,213
Speaker 3: It is fourteen pass to oh eight one hundred and

952
00:46:52,213 --> 00:46:55,413
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. How much does it cost to raise

953
00:46:55,533 --> 00:46:58,813
Speaker 3: a child? Love to hear your thoughts and experiences? Of

954
00:46:58,813 --> 00:47:01,493
Speaker 3: course it's super cheap, Matt says, do you agree back

955
00:47:01,533 --> 00:47:01,733
Speaker 3: in a.

956
00:47:01,773 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 2: Mow best investment you'll ever make. It's fourteen bars to.

957
00:47:07,253 --> 00:47:10,693
Speaker 1: Your home of to noon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

958
00:47:10,733 --> 00:47:14,212
Speaker 1: afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk.

959
00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:16,692
Speaker 1: They'd be for.

960
00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:17,613
Speaker 6: A good afternoons.

961
00:47:17,653 --> 00:47:18,213
Speaker 2: You so were you?

962
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:22,133
Speaker 3: Were you surprised by how affordable raising children actually was.

963
00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:25,533
Speaker 3: There's some new analysis that says at costs on average

964
00:47:25,533 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years

965
00:47:28,573 --> 00:47:30,093
Speaker 3: to raise a child. What do you reckon about that?

966
00:47:30,213 --> 00:47:32,212
Speaker 3: Or eight one hundred eighteen eighty is that number to call?

967
00:47:32,813 --> 00:47:35,933
Speaker 3: Nine to nine two is the text number as.

968
00:47:35,773 --> 00:47:38,013
Speaker 2: Well, Caleb, welcome to the show.

969
00:47:39,173 --> 00:47:42,613
Speaker 6: Yeah, very good, And what are you reckon about these figures?

970
00:47:44,013 --> 00:47:45,773
Speaker 15: I don't know who he came up with that.

971
00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:52,853
Speaker 3: Yet, Madness says on the expensive side or the cheap side?

972
00:47:53,813 --> 00:47:57,292
Speaker 15: Oh that's wait, Expen, like there's no play of child

973
00:47:57,333 --> 00:47:59,133
Speaker 15: got that much? What are you what are you giving

974
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,732
Speaker 15: your kids? That cost eighteen k years?

975
00:48:02,613 --> 00:48:05,853
Speaker 2: Yeah? That would be rough math. That would be what

976
00:48:06,213 --> 00:48:08,813
Speaker 2: three fifty a week you'd be spending and your kid?

977
00:48:09,293 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 2: Have I got that right yet? Yeah, it'll be about

978
00:48:11,013 --> 00:48:14,093
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty. So if you've got two kids,

979
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:16,933
Speaker 2: you know you go cadem No.

980
00:48:17,053 --> 00:48:18,453
Speaker 15: I was just gonna say, like, I mean, you can't

981
00:48:18,493 --> 00:48:21,293
Speaker 15: really argue the th that like you've read, can't be

982
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:24,573
Speaker 15: included in because like you're already dreading, or you've got

983
00:48:24,573 --> 00:48:26,493
Speaker 15: a home for you and your partner or you and

984
00:48:26,573 --> 00:48:29,813
Speaker 15: your wife, and so like okay, you might you could

985
00:48:29,893 --> 00:48:32,413
Speaker 15: argue that you need another picture, but like they doesn't

986
00:48:32,453 --> 00:48:35,813
Speaker 15: increase your rental buy that much or your mortgage quite

987
00:48:35,853 --> 00:48:36,292
Speaker 15: that much.

988
00:48:36,813 --> 00:48:37,333
Speaker 10: And then.

989
00:48:38,773 --> 00:48:41,293
Speaker 15: Particularly for the first I mean for the first of

990
00:48:41,413 --> 00:48:45,053
Speaker 15: out kids like the heavens, they don't need anything care. Yeah,

991
00:48:45,533 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 15: you don't spend a hold on food, and like they're

992
00:48:47,973 --> 00:48:53,172
Speaker 15: not going anywhere, they're not going to sports certain Yeah,

993
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:55,253
Speaker 15: I just I don't understand how they came up with

994
00:48:55,253 --> 00:48:57,453
Speaker 15: those figures. That's let's business. And then like do you

995
00:48:57,493 --> 00:49:01,093
Speaker 15: think like ever actually cost that much? Like people just

996
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:04,453
Speaker 15: wouldn't be heavy, like you wouldn't have kids, Most people.

997
00:49:04,213 --> 00:49:06,573
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be able to word, well, this is this is

998
00:49:06,613 --> 00:49:08,692
Speaker 2: the this is what they're saying in this in this

999
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:13,013
Speaker 2: particular study is that people think that kids are so

1000
00:49:13,253 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 2: incredibly expensive that they just don't have them. And what

1001
00:49:16,853 --> 00:49:19,133
Speaker 2: you're saying is that they're not even as expensive as

1002
00:49:19,173 --> 00:49:21,613
Speaker 2: the study is saying them. And the study is saying

1003
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:23,373
Speaker 2: that they're cheaper than people think they are. So there's

1004
00:49:23,373 --> 00:49:25,692
Speaker 2: people out there that think kids are in even more

1005
00:49:25,693 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 2: expensive than that?

1006
00:49:26,493 --> 00:49:31,653
Speaker 15: Caleb, Yes, we've got three kids, three and a half kids,

1007
00:49:32,013 --> 00:49:38,212
Speaker 15: and like we wouldn't even spend on them all three?

1008
00:49:39,693 --> 00:49:39,893
Speaker 1: Is that?

1009
00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:40,973
Speaker 2: Did you say? What do you mean you've got three

1010
00:49:41,013 --> 00:49:41,693
Speaker 2: and a half kids?

1011
00:49:42,653 --> 00:49:46,733
Speaker 6: I halfway okay, still in the oven?

1012
00:49:48,533 --> 00:49:52,893
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, so I mean that's seven hundred

1013
00:49:53,013 --> 00:49:56,413
Speaker 2: you know, like, so that's three kids, by this logic,

1014
00:49:56,453 --> 00:49:59,133
Speaker 2: would cost you one thousand and fifty dollars a week.

1015
00:50:00,693 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 15: No.

1016
00:50:02,333 --> 00:50:04,133
Speaker 2: See, that's what I was asking Tyler. If this is

1017
00:50:04,173 --> 00:50:06,652
Speaker 2: the premium package that he's selling here, is this the

1018
00:50:06,693 --> 00:50:09,133
Speaker 2: supreme you know, the Luck Shrey package?

1019
00:50:09,213 --> 00:50:13,173
Speaker 15: The upgrade sounds like you're heading into a private private.

1020
00:50:15,333 --> 00:50:19,533
Speaker 2: It is amazing how little you know they cost because

1021
00:50:19,533 --> 00:50:21,293
Speaker 2: when they're little, I mean the biggest risk for a

1022
00:50:21,413 --> 00:50:22,933
Speaker 2: parent when their kids are little is that you end

1023
00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:24,573
Speaker 2: up eating all the food they don't and you get

1024
00:50:24,693 --> 00:50:27,293
Speaker 2: really fat. That's what happened to me. I was, you know,

1025
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:30,333
Speaker 2: serving up you know, nuggets and different types of food

1026
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:30,732
Speaker 2: for them.

1027
00:50:31,173 --> 00:50:33,613
Speaker 3: Maybe food is pretty tasty, but a bananas and cast it,

1028
00:50:33,653 --> 00:50:34,173
Speaker 3: oh man.

1029
00:50:34,653 --> 00:50:36,013
Speaker 2: They don't eat it, and then you eat it.

1030
00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,693
Speaker 10: Yeah, if I can offer a bit of a buyas

1031
00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:41,573
Speaker 10: that anyone that's thinking about having kids, Like.

1032
00:50:42,013 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 15: I mean, there's been no greater joy in my life

1033
00:50:45,653 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 15: about having kids. There is no way in any world

1034
00:50:50,573 --> 00:50:53,933
Speaker 15: did it cost eighteen thousand dollars a year? And like

1035
00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:55,933
Speaker 15: if you if you look at the statistics for New

1036
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:59,533
Speaker 15: Zealand or particularly any western country, like we're not having

1037
00:50:59,653 --> 00:51:03,853
Speaker 15: enough kids. Yeah, feelings birth rates like one point six

1038
00:51:03,973 --> 00:51:06,853
Speaker 15: to a woman, Like in order to in order to

1039
00:51:07,053 --> 00:51:12,533
Speaker 15: maintain ourlation, we have to have two point one. Yeah,

1040
00:51:12,133 --> 00:51:14,853
Speaker 15: we're nowhere close to that. Like we're at a declining

1041
00:51:14,893 --> 00:51:20,213
Speaker 15: populations and that has serious ramifications for the future of

1042
00:51:20,213 --> 00:51:20,613
Speaker 15: the country.

1043
00:51:20,653 --> 00:51:21,053
Speaker 11: I mean.

1044
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:26,732
Speaker 15: Without without population growth is both grow.

1045
00:51:27,053 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh we're gonna have more babies.

1046
00:51:28,453 --> 00:51:30,533
Speaker 3: Kler, But a question for both of you actually, because

1047
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:33,053
Speaker 3: you know we're we're hoping to have a child child

1048
00:51:33,133 --> 00:51:36,053
Speaker 3: soon and looking forward to that day when it hopefully comes.

1049
00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:39,053
Speaker 3: But honest honesty call, how much do I do I

1050
00:51:39,093 --> 00:51:41,213
Speaker 3: need to put aside for when the day comes at

1051
00:51:41,213 --> 00:51:44,013
Speaker 3: the baby's there? Like what you know, what's a realistic figure?

1052
00:51:44,573 --> 00:51:47,732
Speaker 2: Nothing anything about it. This whole idea that you sit

1053
00:51:47,853 --> 00:51:50,013
Speaker 2: down with a pen and paper and a calculator and

1054
00:51:50,093 --> 00:51:52,173
Speaker 2: work out how much a baby's going to cost. Or

1055
00:51:52,173 --> 00:51:54,173
Speaker 2: a child's going to cost. Having a child is just

1056
00:51:54,173 --> 00:51:55,773
Speaker 2: a thing you do and then you pay for it

1057
00:51:55,533 --> 00:51:56,533
Speaker 2: as it happens.

1058
00:51:56,573 --> 00:51:56,973
Speaker 1: It's just.

1059
00:51:58,573 --> 00:52:01,093
Speaker 2: This process. It's part of life.

1060
00:52:01,933 --> 00:52:04,613
Speaker 15: If you're struggling, Like, there's all sorts of place that

1061
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:07,252
Speaker 15: you can go. Again, like people just you just buy

1062
00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:11,413
Speaker 15: your freends and catholic on the marketplace to trade me.

1063
00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:16,293
Speaker 15: There's likeause, you.

1064
00:52:20,493 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 2: What are the fancy because because because people can go

1065
00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:25,692
Speaker 2: crazy and they can buy the fancy ass you know,

1066
00:52:26,253 --> 00:52:28,573
Speaker 2: strollers or whatever those bug I think when my kids

1067
00:52:28,613 --> 00:52:31,373
Speaker 2: were coming out, they were called buggaboos, and you know,

1068
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 2: you could spend two and a half grand on on

1069
00:52:33,333 --> 00:52:36,692
Speaker 2: what you're wheeling them round, or you could just you know,

1070
00:52:37,413 --> 00:52:40,172
Speaker 2: there's thousands of them dubbed everywhere. You just can get

1071
00:52:40,213 --> 00:52:44,493
Speaker 2: you know, this was a there's so many abandoned baby

1072
00:52:45,853 --> 00:52:49,133
Speaker 2: walkers what do you call them? Strollers, strollers, whatever they're called.

1073
00:52:49,493 --> 00:52:51,573
Speaker 2: They're everywhere, so you can you can choose to spend

1074
00:52:51,573 --> 00:52:53,933
Speaker 2: two and a half grand on a fancy one so

1075
00:52:53,933 --> 00:52:56,933
Speaker 2: when you're walking them, other parents can go, oh nice.

1076
00:52:57,413 --> 00:53:00,533
Speaker 2: Or you can just get get one from you know,

1077
00:53:01,213 --> 00:53:05,772
Speaker 2: a second hand store or something that costs fifteen dollars yeah,

1078
00:53:05,773 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 2: you know, there's lots of decisions you can make. Hey,

1079
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:10,533
Speaker 2: thank you so much for you cool.

1080
00:53:10,893 --> 00:53:13,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, and good luck with the half who's still in

1081
00:53:13,573 --> 00:53:15,773
Speaker 3: the oven. Very exciting for you, mate, but good cool

1082
00:53:15,853 --> 00:53:16,652
Speaker 3: to start us off.

1083
00:53:16,733 --> 00:53:19,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone says, swimm lessons. Can I just give some

1084
00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:19,973
Speaker 2: advice for people?

1085
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:20,293
Speaker 10: Do not?

1086
00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:23,453
Speaker 2: Swimming lessons only exist as a punishment for parents going

1087
00:53:24,413 --> 00:53:27,813
Speaker 2: going for a swimming lesson when they're one up to

1088
00:53:27,853 --> 00:53:30,533
Speaker 2: two and all the hungover dads stand in the circle

1089
00:53:30,573 --> 00:53:33,613
Speaker 2: in the pool. The pool pool rooms about four thousand degrees.

1090
00:53:34,013 --> 00:53:37,453
Speaker 2: You've got a raging hangover. You have to sing the

1091
00:53:37,613 --> 00:53:41,373
Speaker 2: swimmer in the pool goes cat, Cat Cat. And then

1092
00:53:42,173 --> 00:53:43,733
Speaker 2: when they're about four, you have to teach them to

1093
00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:46,252
Speaker 2: swim again because they don't remember anything from when they're

1094
00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:48,093
Speaker 2: one and two in the pool at all.

1095
00:53:48,173 --> 00:53:50,733
Speaker 6: That sounds horrendous, that sounds absolutely awful.

1096
00:53:51,053 --> 00:53:53,413
Speaker 2: Just them decide when you're going to take them to

1097
00:53:53,413 --> 00:53:54,133
Speaker 2: the swimming lessons.

1098
00:53:54,333 --> 00:53:56,212
Speaker 3: I say, oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1099
00:53:56,333 --> 00:53:57,893
Speaker 3: is the number to call. We've got full boards at

1100
00:53:57,933 --> 00:54:00,333
Speaker 3: the moment. If you can't get through, keep trying. But

1101
00:54:00,453 --> 00:54:03,373
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Was it more cheaper than

1102
00:54:03,373 --> 00:54:05,333
Speaker 3: you thought it was going to be to raise a child,

1103
00:54:05,373 --> 00:54:08,053
Speaker 3: and just reading these figures again, apparently three hundred and

1104
00:54:08,093 --> 00:54:10,973
Speaker 3: forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years. Is that true?

1105
00:54:11,293 --> 00:54:13,973
Speaker 3: It is twenty three past two, bagfvery shortly. You're listening

1106
00:54:14,013 --> 00:54:14,693
Speaker 3: to Matton.

1107
00:54:14,453 --> 00:54:23,093
Speaker 1: Tyler, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred

1108
00:54:23,173 --> 00:54:25,933
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news talk SIB very.

1109
00:54:25,773 --> 00:54:28,093
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Gie. So we're talking about the price of

1110
00:54:28,213 --> 00:54:30,973
Speaker 3: raising a child. How much did it cost for you?

1111
00:54:31,093 --> 00:54:34,973
Speaker 3: The latest figures, according to this analysis from some researcher,

1112
00:54:34,973 --> 00:54:37,853
Speaker 3: three hundred and six forty one thousand dollars, sorry for

1113
00:54:37,893 --> 00:54:40,813
Speaker 3: your first kid over eighteen years? Was that true for you?

1114
00:54:40,853 --> 00:54:43,453
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is at number to call.

1115
00:54:43,853 --> 00:54:46,453
Speaker 2: The Sex says, it's not just the cost out lay

1116
00:54:46,453 --> 00:54:48,733
Speaker 2: per week. You need to take into account the opportunity

1117
00:54:48,733 --> 00:54:52,093
Speaker 2: costs such as lost income of parent not working, et cetera,

1118
00:54:52,413 --> 00:54:55,013
Speaker 2: to come up with the true cost. But Matt is

1119
00:54:55,053 --> 00:54:57,253
Speaker 2: correct that in reality you'd waste that money on other

1120
00:54:57,293 --> 00:55:00,493
Speaker 2: crap anyway, goodbye, So the net effect balances out to

1121
00:55:00,573 --> 00:55:04,413
Speaker 2: the cost being neutral. See that's what I agree. And

1122
00:55:04,453 --> 00:55:10,533
Speaker 2: also the how did I describe this. Before I had kids,

1123
00:55:10,693 --> 00:55:13,133
Speaker 2: I wasn't really sure why I was working, because my

1124
00:55:13,213 --> 00:55:14,893
Speaker 2: partner and I were quite happy just to live on

1125
00:55:14,973 --> 00:55:16,613
Speaker 2: two dollars worth of fish and chips and just sort

1126
00:55:16,613 --> 00:55:18,693
Speaker 2: of we didn't really care, yeah, you know, and travel

1127
00:55:18,733 --> 00:55:23,293
Speaker 2: around and whatever. And so when I had kids, it

1128
00:55:23,373 --> 00:55:25,733
Speaker 2: suddenly working became a lot easier because there was a

1129
00:55:25,773 --> 00:55:30,613
Speaker 2: reason to work, you know, So work became more meaningful

1130
00:55:30,613 --> 00:55:31,253
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.

1131
00:55:31,373 --> 00:55:33,613
Speaker 3: Yep, no, I can. I can understand that absolutely, because

1132
00:55:34,013 --> 00:55:35,973
Speaker 3: meaning more meaningful if you know what I mean, You've

1133
00:55:36,013 --> 00:55:39,732
Speaker 3: got a weey human to provide for absolutely. Olma, how

1134
00:55:39,733 --> 00:55:41,453
Speaker 3: are you hi?

1135
00:55:41,533 --> 00:55:42,213
Speaker 8: How are you doing?

1136
00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:42,573
Speaker 16: Good?

1137
00:55:42,653 --> 00:55:43,173
Speaker 7: Good? Good?

1138
00:55:43,413 --> 00:55:46,973
Speaker 17: I have the pleasure of a gorgeous almost thirteen year

1139
00:55:47,053 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 17: old girl.

1140
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:50,333
Speaker 2: Congratulations, thanks you.

1141
00:55:50,493 --> 00:55:53,933
Speaker 17: She's an absolute gem. And yes to all the evarts,

1142
00:55:53,973 --> 00:55:58,013
Speaker 17: but yeah, I'm with mass that whole opportunity clast. I

1143
00:55:58,013 --> 00:55:59,533
Speaker 17: think it's more than three hundred and.

1144
00:55:59,453 --> 00:56:02,973
Speaker 2: Forty Okay, okay, carry on.

1145
00:56:03,013 --> 00:56:08,373
Speaker 13: Honestly, well, you know, being a mon taxi myself and

1146
00:56:09,373 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 13: balancing or life getting people from me to be cee

1147
00:56:13,773 --> 00:56:17,013
Speaker 13: tod and then having that little mental capacity in between

1148
00:56:17,053 --> 00:56:19,453
Speaker 13: to go, oh god, am I meant to work in

1149
00:56:19,493 --> 00:56:22,053
Speaker 13: the middle of here as well, and how am I.

1150
00:56:22,013 --> 00:56:24,772
Speaker 17: Going to use all these things together? So I think

1151
00:56:24,773 --> 00:56:26,573
Speaker 17: it is on a bit of a luxury.

1152
00:56:27,293 --> 00:56:30,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean I guess maybe. But as

1153
00:56:30,973 --> 00:56:32,893
Speaker 2: part of it, as you say that your thirteen year

1154
00:56:32,933 --> 00:56:36,013
Speaker 2: old is so fantastic, kens In so important to you,

1155
00:56:36,453 --> 00:56:40,613
Speaker 2: So isn't the opportunity to have that person in your life?

1156
00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:45,573
Speaker 2: Isn't that a fantastic thing that is worth absolutely everything

1157
00:56:45,613 --> 00:56:46,133
Speaker 2: and more.

1158
00:56:46,613 --> 00:56:49,453
Speaker 17: Everything I have done and everything I will do to

1159
00:56:49,493 --> 00:56:53,173
Speaker 17: this day. She's absolutely number one and my best achievement

1160
00:56:53,293 --> 00:56:56,172
Speaker 17: ever and always will be. But just if we come

1161
00:56:56,213 --> 00:56:59,453
Speaker 17: down to, you know, dollars and cents, I definitely reckon

1162
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:03,172
Speaker 17: it's potentially Morris of three hundred and forty. I mean,

1163
00:57:03,213 --> 00:57:07,373
Speaker 17: if you want all the extracurricular activities, all the costs

1164
00:57:07,413 --> 00:57:13,093
Speaker 17: to get there, the school to balance, the swimming, the

1165
00:57:14,653 --> 00:57:16,573
Speaker 17: how many hours in a day? If you think about

1166
00:57:16,573 --> 00:57:19,053
Speaker 17: that alone, I mean I think teachers need to medal really,

1167
00:57:20,053 --> 00:57:22,653
Speaker 17: so where is the time to actually also being a

1168
00:57:22,653 --> 00:57:25,253
Speaker 17: solo mom, Where's the time to actually down tools and

1169
00:57:26,133 --> 00:57:29,573
Speaker 17: grab in that little pocket to work to actually provide

1170
00:57:29,653 --> 00:57:31,013
Speaker 17: this amount of money?

1171
00:57:32,613 --> 00:57:35,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is definitely it is the life's

1172
00:57:35,733 --> 00:57:38,453
Speaker 2: work though, isn't it. And maybe you could argue, like

1173
00:57:38,493 --> 00:57:41,933
Speaker 2: if you want to extend out the hours when they

1174
00:57:41,973 --> 00:57:44,573
Speaker 2: get older and you know, they're still in your life

1175
00:57:44,573 --> 00:57:47,493
Speaker 2: and you have family when you're older, and maybe they

1176
00:57:47,573 --> 00:57:50,453
Speaker 2: produce some grandkids and they come around and then then

1177
00:57:50,733 --> 00:57:54,773
Speaker 2: they start giving back, you know, can you effect to

1178
00:57:54,813 --> 00:57:55,533
Speaker 2: that into the equation.

1179
00:57:56,453 --> 00:57:58,413
Speaker 17: I think it'd be really nice to give back now.

1180
00:57:58,693 --> 00:58:02,213
Speaker 17: I mean, I'm originally from Ireland to do absolutely fantastic now,

1181
00:58:02,373 --> 00:58:05,973
Speaker 17: just in a neighborhood perspective, school communities aggregate a little

1182
00:58:06,013 --> 00:58:08,893
Speaker 17: bit more together to you know, I think loads of

1183
00:58:08,893 --> 00:58:11,893
Speaker 17: people will want more children if they could rely on

1184
00:58:11,933 --> 00:58:14,013
Speaker 17: that hole. It takes a village to raise a child

1185
00:58:14,413 --> 00:58:15,173
Speaker 17: and got to run them.

1186
00:58:15,253 --> 00:58:19,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a big part. I think you're sorry.

1187
00:58:19,373 --> 00:58:22,053
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right. I think it used to

1188
00:58:22,093 --> 00:58:27,453
Speaker 2: be raising children. It's a lot easier if you're in

1189
00:58:27,453 --> 00:58:30,293
Speaker 2: the same towns as the grandparents, if there's two sets

1190
00:58:30,333 --> 00:58:32,853
Speaker 2: of grandparents and all those kind of things, if there's

1191
00:58:32,893 --> 00:58:37,813
Speaker 2: more people available to lighten the load. And then obviously,

1192
00:58:37,853 --> 00:58:41,213
Speaker 2: evolutionarily speaking, we all live together in packs of about

1193
00:58:41,253 --> 00:58:43,533
Speaker 2: you know, thirty to fifty, so everyone was looking after

1194
00:58:43,573 --> 00:58:45,613
Speaker 2: the children, and it was a lot easier. I mean,

1195
00:58:46,133 --> 00:58:48,573
Speaker 2: I mean you're having to fight off sabertooth targets and such. So,

1196
00:58:48,653 --> 00:58:51,293
Speaker 2: you know, there were some downsides, but the numbers. But

1197
00:58:51,893 --> 00:58:53,693
Speaker 2: the way we live now, where you have a child

1198
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:55,573
Speaker 2: and then you take it home behind your fence and

1199
00:58:55,613 --> 00:58:58,853
Speaker 2: behind your walls, and then you try and bring it

1200
00:58:58,933 --> 00:59:01,493
Speaker 2: up like that by yourself while you're also working and

1201
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:04,453
Speaker 2: doing a lot of stuff. It's a very new way

1202
00:59:04,453 --> 00:59:05,013
Speaker 2: of doing it.

1203
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:10,293
Speaker 17: Yeah. They also it's also it's a message you know,

1204
00:59:10,333 --> 00:59:12,253
Speaker 17: where is that when I was growing uppy, I could

1205
00:59:12,493 --> 00:59:14,653
Speaker 17: walk across the field hang out there all day, or

1206
00:59:14,933 --> 00:59:17,813
Speaker 17: go to the neighbors, or don't your granny's or you know,

1207
00:59:18,613 --> 00:59:21,173
Speaker 17: she is absolutely my pleasure. But sometimes I look at

1208
00:59:21,293 --> 00:59:23,413
Speaker 17: I feel sorry for her. I go, man, you can't

1209
00:59:23,413 --> 00:59:24,693
Speaker 17: even go outside the gage.

1210
00:59:25,333 --> 00:59:27,613
Speaker 2: That's another point that you make. It's an excellent point

1211
00:59:27,733 --> 00:59:32,533
Speaker 2: is that there's more parenting to do now because you

1212
00:59:32,653 --> 00:59:34,693
Speaker 2: there was never any expectation for me that my dad

1213
00:59:34,693 --> 00:59:37,733
Speaker 2: would come and watch me play sport or you know,

1214
00:59:37,853 --> 00:59:39,493
Speaker 2: we had there was four kids in my family, so

1215
00:59:39,573 --> 00:59:41,733
Speaker 2: there was a lot on But I just don't think,

1216
00:59:42,573 --> 00:59:43,933
Speaker 2: you know, I know, it's the cliche but I just

1217
00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:46,053
Speaker 2: ran around the farm all day, did whatever sort of

1218
00:59:46,093 --> 00:59:48,733
Speaker 2: came back, find some food in the microwave or whatever.

1219
00:59:48,773 --> 00:59:50,973
Speaker 2: There wasn't There wasn't much to do.

1220
00:59:53,813 --> 00:59:55,853
Speaker 16: Was come home my mum.

1221
00:59:55,933 --> 00:59:58,493
Speaker 17: You come home when the lights were on, and you know,

1222
00:59:58,813 --> 01:00:01,053
Speaker 17: if you were a few scratches on, nobody would say

1223
01:00:01,093 --> 01:00:03,093
Speaker 17: anything and sit down and have your dinner and after

1224
01:00:03,173 --> 01:00:07,933
Speaker 17: Gosh's you know. And that's why I think. I mean absolutely,

1225
01:00:07,933 --> 01:00:11,853
Speaker 17: I wouldn't changes for the world. But in reality, if

1226
01:00:11,853 --> 01:00:13,573
Speaker 17: you want to try and bring up a good human

1227
01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:15,653
Speaker 17: and not sit them in front of the screen all

1228
01:00:15,733 --> 01:00:18,573
Speaker 17: day and give them all of what we had with freedom,

1229
01:00:18,933 --> 01:00:21,493
Speaker 17: that is the opportunity cost. That costs a lot. That's

1230
01:00:21,533 --> 01:00:23,893
Speaker 17: your time, that's your ability to get across anything else.

1231
01:00:24,453 --> 01:00:26,893
Speaker 2: Hey, Oma, did you have siblings?

1232
01:00:28,413 --> 01:00:31,053
Speaker 17: Yes, I did too. Yeah, I was the youngest.

1233
01:00:31,613 --> 01:00:34,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that my oldest sisters kind of

1234
01:00:35,013 --> 01:00:37,613
Speaker 2: brought me up. Yeah a lot as well, So I

1235
01:00:37,613 --> 01:00:39,213
Speaker 2: think that they were looking after me.

1236
01:00:42,253 --> 01:00:46,453
Speaker 17: Either have one, yeah, you have one, or you have four, five.

1237
01:00:48,093 --> 01:00:51,213
Speaker 3: All or nothing exactly exactly.

1238
01:00:51,333 --> 01:00:54,373
Speaker 17: But look, she is my aptic center of the universe.

1239
01:00:54,693 --> 01:00:56,333
Speaker 17: Doesn't have the answer. It'd be nice to get the

1240
01:00:56,373 --> 01:01:00,173
Speaker 17: neighborhood and communities a little bit more integrated, feeling safer,

1241
01:01:00,293 --> 01:01:02,013
Speaker 17: and then I think, you know the whole average of

1242
01:01:02,493 --> 01:01:05,213
Speaker 17: just being able to come home check them on. I mean,

1243
01:01:05,253 --> 01:01:07,893
Speaker 17: the Maoris have it right with the pupkaing hour, you know,

1244
01:01:08,093 --> 01:01:10,133
Speaker 17: every but he looked after each other and off you go.

1245
01:01:10,373 --> 01:01:13,173
Speaker 17: So taking a leaf from all of us, I suppose,

1246
01:01:13,173 --> 01:01:14,973
Speaker 17: and bringing back some good neighborhoods.

1247
01:01:15,493 --> 01:01:17,813
Speaker 6: Yeah, nicely said, and beautiful weeks and as well.

1248
01:01:17,973 --> 01:01:20,973
Speaker 2: Could a sack. Yeah, kids running from house to house,

1249
01:01:21,093 --> 01:01:26,053
Speaker 2: lovely playing cricket on the road, all that kind of stuff. See,

1250
01:01:27,053 --> 01:01:29,173
Speaker 2: but you try having a free range kid these days,

1251
01:01:29,253 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 2: and you'll get knocks on the door from various agentcy.

1252
01:01:31,693 --> 01:01:35,453
Speaker 3: Yes, your kid's running wild in the street. Right, Oh,

1253
01:01:35,533 --> 01:01:37,613
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty to eighty is the number to call.

1254
01:01:37,613 --> 01:01:39,893
Speaker 3: We've got headlines coming up, but love to hear your

1255
01:01:39,933 --> 01:01:42,293
Speaker 3: thoughts to the cost of raising your kids turn out

1256
01:01:42,373 --> 01:01:44,693
Speaker 3: to be a pleasant surprise and maybe cheaper than you

1257
01:01:44,773 --> 01:01:45,573
Speaker 3: thought it was going to be.

1258
01:01:46,533 --> 01:01:47,933
Speaker 6: Ray Lean is on her way.

1259
01:01:48,613 --> 01:01:52,013
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I you've got kids that are five and

1260
01:01:52,053 --> 01:01:53,773
Speaker 2: you say, you know, just walk to school. Then you'll

1261
01:01:53,853 --> 01:01:55,533
Speaker 2: end up getting a call from the kid pound and

1262
01:01:55,573 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 2: someone will to pick them up and said, what's the

1263
01:01:57,133 --> 01:01:58,973
Speaker 2: kid doing it on the street? On the oath love it?

1264
01:01:58,973 --> 01:02:02,893
Speaker 3: It is twenty seven to three.

1265
01:02:03,173 --> 01:02:06,853
Speaker 11: US talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxies. It's

1266
01:02:06,893 --> 01:02:10,493
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble labour says. A chaotic

1267
01:02:10,573 --> 01:02:13,973
Speaker 11: bid by youth charity to take over Auckland's Colston Boys

1268
01:02:14,053 --> 01:02:18,333
Speaker 11: High School exposes flaws in the charter school model. Carmel

1269
01:02:18,413 --> 01:02:22,333
Speaker 11: Zeppeloni says David Seymour should scrap the charter school model altogether.

1270
01:02:23,493 --> 01:02:26,413
Speaker 11: Police say there are critical injuries in a two vehicle

1271
01:02:26,453 --> 01:02:30,653
Speaker 11: crash that's closed part of State Highway three near Hamilton Airport.

1272
01:02:31,653 --> 01:02:35,373
Speaker 11: The Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Leaders Summit is officially in

1273
01:02:35,453 --> 01:02:39,333
Speaker 11: full swing, bringing together twenty one nations at a crucial

1274
01:02:39,373 --> 01:02:43,093
Speaker 11: time in world Trade. Towards a more connected and resilient

1275
01:02:43,253 --> 01:02:46,573
Speaker 11: world is the theme of this year's summit, with conversations

1276
01:02:46,613 --> 01:02:51,693
Speaker 11: aimed at removing trade barriers the Trump administration slashing the

1277
01:02:51,773 --> 01:02:55,573
Speaker 11: number of refugees admitted to the US and giving priority

1278
01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:59,693
Speaker 11: to white South Africans. The Ministry of Social Development is

1279
01:02:59,693 --> 01:03:02,413
Speaker 11: funding a new initiative to help connect homeless people in

1280
01:03:02,493 --> 01:03:08,333
Speaker 11: Dunedin with housing support. Wall Street's Tech fueled rally stirs

1281
01:03:08,333 --> 01:03:11,093
Speaker 11: market to bubble fears. You can see this and more

1282
01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:14,533
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1283
01:03:14,573 --> 01:03:15,733
Speaker 11: Ethan Tyler Adams.

1284
01:03:16,173 --> 01:03:18,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan, and we're having a great

1285
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:21,733
Speaker 3: discussion about the cost of raising kids. So new analysis

1286
01:03:21,733 --> 01:03:25,053
Speaker 3: by some researchers reckon, for your first kids over eighteen years,

1287
01:03:25,053 --> 01:03:27,693
Speaker 3: it was three hundred and forty one thousand dollars, which

1288
01:03:27,733 --> 01:03:30,413
Speaker 3: works out to about nineteen eight hundred bucks a year.

1289
01:03:30,493 --> 01:03:33,493
Speaker 3: For each extra kid you have, that's around two hundred

1290
01:03:33,533 --> 01:03:34,933
Speaker 3: and sixty one thousand dollars.

1291
01:03:35,453 --> 01:03:38,093
Speaker 2: Don't be ridiculous, your muppets. It costs out a million

1292
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Speaker 2: dollars per child if you take into lost opportunity. Cheers

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01:03:41,493 --> 01:03:46,213
Speaker 2: John million marks. Yeah, but my argument is that there

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01:03:46,253 --> 01:03:49,653
Speaker 2: is no lost opportunity. The opportunity is to have children.

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01:03:49,893 --> 01:03:52,613
Speaker 2: So you haven't lost any opportunity by having children. You've

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01:03:52,653 --> 01:03:56,893
Speaker 2: gained children. Yeah, so your head your head. In my opinion,

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01:03:57,293 --> 01:04:00,133
Speaker 2: someone says, shut up, you don't have to buy nappies.

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Speaker 2: They're very expensive. Yeah, they are expensive nappies and I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to remember back, I reckon, you might change

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Speaker 2: a baby's nappy's what eight times a day?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. Yep, that sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot of times a day. Yeah.

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01:04:16,133 --> 01:04:18,973
Speaker 2: And so look, I've just looked up Huggies Essential Nappies

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01:04:20,573 --> 01:04:22,213
Speaker 2: twenty eight pack eleven fifty.

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01:04:22,933 --> 01:04:25,013
Speaker 6: Right, there's twenty eight eleven bucks fifty.

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01:04:25,133 --> 01:04:27,413
Speaker 2: Le's ron the numbers. So if I'm saying that you

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01:04:27,533 --> 01:04:29,973
Speaker 2: changed the nappies fifty six times a week, that's probably

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01:04:30,053 --> 01:04:33,813
Speaker 2: enough to put people. You could change eight times a day.

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01:04:33,933 --> 01:04:36,453
Speaker 2: You've got to change of stinky nappy fifty six times

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Speaker 2: a week. And look I'm making up this number. Someone,

1311
01:04:38,373 --> 01:04:41,333
Speaker 2: someone that's in the thick of babyhood and toddlerhood might

1312
01:04:41,333 --> 01:04:44,613
Speaker 2: be able to push back on this. So yeah, I

1313
01:04:44,653 --> 01:04:47,413
Speaker 2: mean that's that is twenty twenty three dollars a week

1314
01:04:47,613 --> 01:04:49,373
Speaker 2: if you go for the Huggies Essentials.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a right. You know, there's kind of like

1316
01:04:51,733 --> 01:04:53,733
Speaker 3: the butter discussion. You know, how many nappies do you

1317
01:04:53,813 --> 01:04:55,613
Speaker 3: have to go through? And what about the cloth nappies?

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01:04:55,853 --> 01:04:59,013
Speaker 3: Am I being a little bit naive that what's wrong

1319
01:04:59,053 --> 01:04:59,853
Speaker 3: with a cloth nappy?

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01:05:00,533 --> 01:05:06,733
Speaker 2: Yeah? There is a lot to deal with the cloth nappy,

1321
01:05:07,213 --> 01:05:09,093
Speaker 2: you know, with the hanging out and then and the

1322
01:05:09,253 --> 01:05:10,693
Speaker 2: just the general discussing this of them.

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01:05:10,733 --> 01:05:12,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. I knew there was a lot

1324
01:05:12,573 --> 01:05:13,933
Speaker 3: of flaws as soon as I said that.

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01:05:14,053 --> 01:05:16,013
Speaker 6: I knew. I mean, the text machine is going to

1326
01:05:16,093 --> 01:05:17,333
Speaker 6: light up and say, what the hell would you know?

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Speaker 2: So you've got to be you've got to get a

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01:05:21,413 --> 01:05:23,813
Speaker 2: fa with safety pins and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,

1329
01:05:23,813 --> 01:05:26,533
Speaker 2: it sounds like a lot of fair thing. Michael, welcome

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Speaker 2: to show.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I totally disagree with that media cost of

1332
01:05:32,853 --> 01:05:39,133
Speaker 16: raising children. We had our first four in three and

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01:05:39,173 --> 01:05:42,893
Speaker 16: a half years, and at the time I was earning

1334
01:05:42,973 --> 01:05:47,853
Speaker 16: forty five thousand dollars. My wife didn't work, and in

1335
01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:51,693
Speaker 16: today's money that would be ninety thousand. So if you

1336
01:05:51,773 --> 01:05:55,333
Speaker 16: work that out, there was actually no way we could

1337
01:05:55,373 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 16: afford four children at those current or those projected rates,

1338
01:06:01,253 --> 01:06:02,173
Speaker 16: but we did.

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01:06:03,853 --> 01:06:07,813
Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's what I think as well. But it's

1340
01:06:07,853 --> 01:06:09,613
Speaker 2: like this teach sEH. Hey, guys, studies are a bit

1341
01:06:09,653 --> 01:06:11,973
Speaker 2: like poles, a waste of money people employed to do what.

1342
01:06:12,533 --> 01:06:15,093
Speaker 2: I get sick of universities giving money to do worthless

1343
01:06:15,093 --> 01:06:17,493
Speaker 2: research and then it's just garbage. We could do our

1344
01:06:17,533 --> 01:06:21,573
Speaker 2: own medical slash business research at least goes somewhere that

1345
01:06:21,693 --> 01:06:25,573
Speaker 2: is productive. I mean, it's what are those numbers again?

1346
01:06:25,613 --> 01:06:26,973
Speaker 2: Tyler just hit us with them again.

1347
01:06:27,333 --> 01:06:29,613
Speaker 3: So and this is just the top line figures here,

1348
01:06:29,613 --> 01:06:32,533
Speaker 3: but they thought over eighteen years for your first child,

1349
01:06:32,573 --> 01:06:34,173
Speaker 3: a bit more expensive because you've got to buy a

1350
01:06:34,213 --> 01:06:37,013
Speaker 3: new gear three hundred and forty one thousand dollars for

1351
01:06:37,133 --> 01:06:39,693
Speaker 3: each additional child two hundred and sixty one thousand. And

1352
01:06:39,693 --> 01:06:42,213
Speaker 3: I'll just try and break it down as quickly as

1353
01:06:42,253 --> 01:06:44,933
Speaker 3: I can on what that money goes to. So that

1354
01:06:45,013 --> 01:06:49,453
Speaker 3: would go to food utilities, everyday goods. That includes nappies

1355
01:06:49,533 --> 01:06:53,493
Speaker 3: obviously food which was mentioned, grosceries, extra power. Then they

1356
01:06:53,533 --> 01:06:56,893
Speaker 3: say a larger living space, a bigger car or a fridge,

1357
01:06:57,173 --> 01:07:00,493
Speaker 3: extra equipment in the home for additional children, and then

1358
01:07:00,573 --> 01:07:05,013
Speaker 3: child specific items and services clothing, toys, equipment, score related costs,

1359
01:07:05,173 --> 01:07:08,173
Speaker 3: extra activities, braces, dental, et cetera.

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01:07:08,693 --> 01:07:10,853
Speaker 2: See this is the premium package that they're selling here.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot going on there. It's a premium package.

1362
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Speaker 16: So we had an old car, it was a twenty

1363
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:22,133
Speaker 16: twenty five year old Mark through Zephyr I low my

1364
01:07:22,253 --> 01:07:26,653
Speaker 16: own house. We didn't have electricity, so we had no

1365
01:07:26,893 --> 01:07:29,973
Speaker 16: electricity bills, and I guess that might sound a bit

1366
01:07:31,013 --> 01:07:39,093
Speaker 16: foreign to modern day future to be parents. But we

1367
01:07:39,213 --> 01:07:42,733
Speaker 16: made that decision that we were going to have these kids,

1368
01:07:43,333 --> 01:07:46,013
Speaker 16: and they came up pretty quickly in three and a

1369
01:07:46,053 --> 01:07:49,613
Speaker 16: half years. And as I said, I didn't earn that

1370
01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:55,013
Speaker 16: much ninety thousand in today's money. And my second daughter,

1371
01:07:55,053 --> 01:08:01,013
Speaker 16: who is now twenty five, who her partner earned twice that.

1372
01:08:01,053 --> 01:08:04,493
Speaker 16: They earned one hundred and eighty between them, and they're

1373
01:08:04,533 --> 01:08:08,093
Speaker 16: talking about, oh, we might have children, but it's going.

1374
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Speaker 12: To lost us so much.

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Speaker 16: And I was sort of thinking, well, I won't say

1376
01:08:12,453 --> 01:08:16,492
Speaker 16: her name, it's a unique name, but I was saying

1377
01:08:16,492 --> 01:08:20,732
Speaker 16: to her, you know what, we brought up four children

1378
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:23,333
Speaker 16: on half what you guys are earning.

1379
01:08:24,093 --> 01:08:26,053
Speaker 2: And I guess no, specusly might be a hard sell

1380
01:08:26,173 --> 01:08:27,972
Speaker 2: for the modern modern parents.

1381
01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:31,053
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

1382
01:08:31,013 --> 01:08:32,492
Speaker 6: How many kids can you can you put on the

1383
01:08:32,492 --> 01:08:33,812
Speaker 6: boot legally these days? Michael?

1384
01:08:33,853 --> 01:08:35,492
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't wasn't such a thing back in

1385
01:08:35,492 --> 01:08:36,772
Speaker 3: the day. You just chuck them in the boot and

1386
01:08:36,772 --> 01:08:38,813
Speaker 3: all good.

1387
01:08:38,812 --> 01:08:41,492
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, it was quite a bit of illegal stuff.

1388
01:08:41,532 --> 01:08:46,293
Speaker 16: One dage I had to go to work because when

1389
01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:49,932
Speaker 16: we had five kids, I had to do five drop

1390
01:08:49,973 --> 01:08:53,532
Speaker 16: offs to five different schools and daycares every day.

1391
01:08:53,492 --> 01:08:56,133
Speaker 12: And pick up every day.

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01:08:56,732 --> 01:09:00,053
Speaker 16: But was pretty the fuel bill was probably more than

1393
01:09:00,093 --> 01:09:03,133
Speaker 16: the the rest of the bill.

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01:09:03,612 --> 01:09:07,612
Speaker 2: But now nowadays, nowadays, with all the sacrifice you gave

1395
01:09:07,652 --> 01:09:09,772
Speaker 2: into those kids. You know, people talk about the cost

1396
01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:11,732
Speaker 2: of kids, but you know, what have you got for

1397
01:09:11,772 --> 01:09:18,013
Speaker 2: that effort? Yeah, they they don't. That's my argument that

1398
01:09:18,013 --> 01:09:21,932
Speaker 2: they don't cost anything because they give you so much.

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01:09:22,093 --> 01:09:24,813
Speaker 6: Yeah, nicely, that's beautiful mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, you don't know anything about nappies. Modern day

1401
01:09:29,732 --> 01:09:32,372
Speaker 2: cloth nappies have clip buttons so they fit the kid

1402
01:09:32,572 --> 01:09:35,253
Speaker 2: for one plus years, and disposable liners so you don't

1403
01:09:35,253 --> 01:09:38,572
Speaker 2: have to deal with too much grossness. There's got a texture.

1404
01:09:38,612 --> 01:09:40,852
Speaker 2: And the other one says they have valcrow cloth nappies

1405
01:09:40,853 --> 01:09:43,333
Speaker 2: with plastic out. It tried those, but they're no good

1406
01:09:43,372 --> 01:09:46,333
Speaker 2: for newborns. They'll leak like regular Undi snuck and ailings

1407
01:09:46,412 --> 01:09:47,132
Speaker 2: up in the cryp.

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01:09:47,732 --> 01:09:50,053
Speaker 3: Started off so good and they went horribly wrong. Right,

1409
01:09:50,173 --> 01:09:52,412
Speaker 3: Taking more of your calls on O one hundred eighty

1410
01:09:52,532 --> 01:09:55,532
Speaker 3: ten eighty, were you surprised at how cheap it actually

1411
01:09:55,652 --> 01:09:58,972
Speaker 3: ended up being raising children? It is sixteen to three

1412
01:09:59,013 --> 01:09:59,692
Speaker 3: back in a month.

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01:10:01,853 --> 01:10:06,213
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

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01:10:06,213 --> 01:10:10,213
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty his talk very good.

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01:10:10,253 --> 01:10:10,732
Speaker 2: Afternoons.

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01:10:10,732 --> 01:10:14,052
Speaker 3: You're having a great discussion about the cost of raising children.

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01:10:14,732 --> 01:10:17,492
Speaker 3: There was an article which mentioned it was three hundred

1418
01:10:17,492 --> 01:10:19,932
Speaker 3: and forty one thousand dollars for eighteen years of their life.

1419
01:10:20,013 --> 01:10:20,572
Speaker 6: Is that true?

1420
01:10:20,893 --> 01:10:23,293
Speaker 2: Loved to get you thought, that's nearly nineteen thousand dollars

1421
01:10:23,293 --> 01:10:25,213
Speaker 2: a year. Seems like a lot, did you? Is the

1422
01:10:25,293 --> 01:10:27,532
Speaker 2: Dark Destroyer up in Auckland at the moment in the

1423
01:10:27,692 --> 01:10:28,893
Speaker 2: ZBE studio.

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01:10:28,652 --> 01:10:31,173
Speaker 6: He certainly is. Yeah, very exciting. He's he's a good

1425
01:10:31,173 --> 01:10:31,652
Speaker 6: looking man.

1426
01:10:31,692 --> 01:10:35,293
Speaker 2: I've got to say that he does a lot of exercise. Yeah,

1427
01:10:35,572 --> 01:10:39,053
Speaker 2: so he's in great neck. That's annoying because I'm down

1428
01:10:39,053 --> 01:10:39,852
Speaker 2: in Wellington today.

1429
01:10:39,973 --> 01:10:41,732
Speaker 3: That is upsetting for you. He's having a chat to

1430
01:10:41,973 --> 01:10:45,173
Speaker 3: Mitchell Hageman, our entertainment reporter. He towers over match. Mitch

1431
01:10:45,213 --> 01:10:47,093
Speaker 3: is a lovely guy. But he's what he must be

1432
01:10:47,093 --> 01:10:48,093
Speaker 3: about five foot six.

1433
01:10:49,213 --> 01:10:49,532
Speaker 18: You could be.

1434
01:10:50,532 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 2: Just because you're not six foot doesn't mean you're not

1435
01:10:53,053 --> 01:10:55,572
Speaker 2: a great guy, Tyler. I mean, what are you five seven?

1436
01:10:55,652 --> 01:10:56,772
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm a terrible person.

1437
01:10:57,492 --> 01:10:59,532
Speaker 2: True, it's a bad example.

1438
01:10:59,732 --> 01:11:01,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, mate, I'll say you get a door him

1439
01:11:01,452 --> 01:11:05,053
Speaker 3: for you. He's finished the interview and he's he's just

1440
01:11:05,372 --> 01:11:06,892
Speaker 3: having a nice, nice chill out time.

1441
01:11:06,933 --> 01:11:09,492
Speaker 2: Now what a good man six is high. Not everyone

1442
01:11:09,532 --> 01:11:12,292
Speaker 2: wants or wanted children to raise them properly as expensive.

1443
01:11:12,492 --> 01:11:14,492
Speaker 2: I chose not to have any. I listened to those

1444
01:11:14,532 --> 01:11:17,052
Speaker 2: with kids, and they all they do is moan and winge.

1445
01:11:17,133 --> 01:11:19,812
Speaker 2: I've honestly never met a genuinely happy parent to the date,

1446
01:11:20,133 --> 01:11:23,852
Speaker 2: well you've met me, and I am a genuinely happy parent,

1447
01:11:24,293 --> 01:11:27,852
Speaker 2: and you know, there's that winging and moaning about kids

1448
01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:30,532
Speaker 2: kind of. But and I think people with kids maybe

1449
01:11:30,612 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 2: just talk about their kids, which a pretty punishing for

1450
01:11:32,372 --> 01:11:34,173
Speaker 2: people that don't have kids. And if you don't have kids,

1451
01:11:34,173 --> 01:11:37,372
Speaker 2: that's your decision obviously. But part of that winging and

1452
01:11:37,412 --> 01:11:39,732
Speaker 2: moaning is just sort of funny. You know, you've got

1453
01:11:39,772 --> 01:11:41,692
Speaker 2: to there's a bit of a bit of a bit

1454
01:11:41,692 --> 01:11:44,772
Speaker 2: of a uh, you know, I don't know what it is.

1455
01:11:44,812 --> 01:11:45,532
Speaker 6: It's a funny part.

1456
01:11:46,133 --> 01:11:48,452
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but it is. It's

1457
01:11:49,173 --> 01:11:51,333
Speaker 2: winging in a way, but it's also funny and you're

1458
01:11:51,333 --> 01:11:54,133
Speaker 2: happy to do it all I would say, Carol, you

1459
01:11:54,293 --> 01:11:56,052
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the cost of nappies.

1460
01:11:57,933 --> 01:12:00,652
Speaker 7: I had three children and I used cross nappies and

1461
01:12:00,692 --> 01:12:03,133
Speaker 7: they're just so easy. You just stick them in a

1462
01:12:03,133 --> 01:12:07,452
Speaker 7: bucket of nappy stands, having scraped off anything towards and

1463
01:12:07,652 --> 01:12:11,812
Speaker 7: stick the lie and they don't cost nearly as much

1464
01:12:11,853 --> 01:12:15,612
Speaker 7: as disposable nappies, which also pollute the environment.

1465
01:12:16,293 --> 01:12:19,253
Speaker 2: Were you using safety pins or do you have the

1466
01:12:19,853 --> 01:12:21,812
Speaker 2: ones they have now with.

1467
01:12:20,692 --> 01:12:25,372
Speaker 7: The clips safety pins? You have to do it so

1468
01:12:25,452 --> 01:12:26,493
Speaker 7: much children.

1469
01:12:26,652 --> 01:12:28,173
Speaker 2: You have to do it so much, you have to

1470
01:12:28,173 --> 01:12:30,173
Speaker 2: do it so often that you get You'd get really

1471
01:12:30,253 --> 01:12:31,293
Speaker 2: quick at it anyway, wouldn't you.

1472
01:12:31,572 --> 01:12:35,652
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And you can file the nappy differently for

1473
01:12:35,772 --> 01:12:36,813
Speaker 7: boys and girls.

1474
01:12:37,732 --> 01:12:39,052
Speaker 6: So what do you reckon? What do you reckon?

1475
01:12:39,093 --> 01:12:40,972
Speaker 3: The pushback is for the old cloth nappies. Why don't

1476
01:12:41,013 --> 01:12:42,333
Speaker 3: you reckon people are using them anymore?

1477
01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 2: Carol? As much?

1478
01:12:45,372 --> 01:12:48,053
Speaker 7: I think they're probably lazy because I found them just

1479
01:12:48,173 --> 01:12:51,253
Speaker 7: so easy and I had to use the dryer sometimes,

1480
01:12:51,293 --> 01:12:53,572
Speaker 7: but very rarely. Most days you can get them dry,

1481
01:12:53,572 --> 01:12:56,612
Speaker 7: and if you've got plenty of nappies, you're not worried

1482
01:12:56,652 --> 01:12:57,053
Speaker 7: about it.

1483
01:12:57,692 --> 01:13:00,133
Speaker 2: I think one thing that another saying Carol, that that

1484
01:13:00,133 --> 01:13:02,692
Speaker 2: that people think about having kids when they haven't had

1485
01:13:02,732 --> 01:13:05,293
Speaker 2: them yet is all you know, the disgustingness you're talking

1486
01:13:05,333 --> 01:13:07,213
Speaker 2: about the earth there scraping off and such. But there's

1487
01:13:07,213 --> 01:13:08,052
Speaker 2: a strange thing happens.

1488
01:13:08,652 --> 01:13:11,732
Speaker 7: Kids put a nappy nappy liner on and you just

1489
01:13:11,732 --> 01:13:14,532
Speaker 7: picked that up and you know it's done and dusted.

1490
01:13:15,093 --> 01:13:17,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, but my point, my point is your tolerance for

1491
01:13:17,893 --> 01:13:22,333
Speaker 2: disgusting things grows very very quickly, and you just don't

1492
01:13:22,372 --> 01:13:23,213
Speaker 2: care about that kind.

1493
01:13:23,053 --> 01:13:25,293
Speaker 7: Of stuff you take when you when you take a

1494
01:13:25,372 --> 01:13:30,532
Speaker 7: disposed of nappy, or you've just probably got some you know,

1495
01:13:30,933 --> 01:13:34,052
Speaker 7: product on the bum, so you've got to wipe that anyway.

1496
01:13:34,612 --> 01:13:35,333
Speaker 12: Yeah, something.

1497
01:13:36,973 --> 01:13:39,733
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I just didn't find it a problem.

1498
01:13:39,692 --> 01:13:42,972
Speaker 2: To be good on your Carol. And you know, maybe

1499
01:13:43,013 --> 01:13:45,372
Speaker 2: if you're out there and and you're still running the old,

1500
01:13:45,452 --> 01:13:48,492
Speaker 2: the old school system, then then then we then would

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01:13:48,492 --> 01:13:55,452
Speaker 2: love to hear from you, Michael. Michael, your thoughts on

1502
01:13:55,452 --> 01:13:57,772
Speaker 2: across the raising kids, Well, I.

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01:13:57,692 --> 01:14:00,213
Speaker 19: Think it's actually the people that bring it up saying

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01:14:00,213 --> 01:14:02,053
Speaker 19: it's cheaper than that. I don't know where they live

1505
01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:03,733
Speaker 19: or what they feed their kids.

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01:14:03,412 --> 01:14:03,572
Speaker 13: But.

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01:14:05,853 --> 01:14:08,572
Speaker 19: If you want to feed your kids decent food, it's

1508
01:14:08,692 --> 01:14:11,173
Speaker 19: it's going to cost hundreds of bucks a week.

1509
01:14:11,333 --> 01:14:12,253
Speaker 12: I've got three boys.

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01:14:12,253 --> 01:14:15,532
Speaker 19: They eat more than meat. I think it's ridiculously expensive

1511
01:14:15,532 --> 01:14:17,173
Speaker 19: to raise kids. I don't regret it.

1512
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:17,892
Speaker 10: I'm just saying it.

1513
01:14:18,133 --> 01:14:19,492
Speaker 19: Yeah, it does cost a lot of money.

1514
01:14:20,372 --> 01:14:22,652
Speaker 2: So you think nineteen thousand dollars a year.

1515
01:14:22,933 --> 01:14:25,052
Speaker 19: For a kid, yep.

1516
01:14:25,492 --> 01:14:26,572
Speaker 4: Can you raise them cheaper?

1517
01:14:27,013 --> 01:14:28,572
Speaker 19: Of course, But if you want them to be in

1518
01:14:28,692 --> 01:14:31,612
Speaker 19: sports and go to a good school and heat, got

1519
01:14:31,692 --> 01:14:36,253
Speaker 19: some good food, and be immersed and culture and modern life,

1520
01:14:36,333 --> 01:14:37,492
Speaker 19: and it costs money.

1521
01:14:37,532 --> 01:14:39,333
Speaker 2: You know, where do you live. Do you live in

1522
01:14:39,333 --> 01:14:41,652
Speaker 2: a big urban center, Michael.

1523
01:14:42,492 --> 01:14:44,932
Speaker 19: I'm just in Hawk's Bay and Hastings Lovely.

1524
01:14:45,412 --> 01:14:48,412
Speaker 2: What a nice place to bring up kids that's already

1525
01:14:48,412 --> 01:14:50,572
Speaker 2: winning there.

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01:14:51,293 --> 01:14:53,612
Speaker 19: From when they were five, they were walking to the

1527
01:14:53,612 --> 01:14:57,572
Speaker 19: supermarket by themselves, and I let them go down to

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01:14:57,572 --> 01:14:59,772
Speaker 19: the park by themselves and let them run around the Madwood.

1529
01:14:59,772 --> 01:15:00,973
Speaker 10: No one ever said.

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01:15:01,093 --> 01:15:03,173
Speaker 19: Anything to me. So the people that think that you

1531
01:15:03,213 --> 01:15:06,492
Speaker 19: can't do that, I don't know what where their heads at. Yes,

1532
01:15:06,532 --> 01:15:08,852
Speaker 19: the kids, I wish more kids were When when my

1533
01:15:08,933 --> 01:15:11,492
Speaker 19: kids walk under the park by themselves, I wish there

1534
01:15:11,532 --> 01:15:12,532
Speaker 19: were more kids there.

1535
01:15:12,612 --> 01:15:14,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's a bit of a I

1536
01:15:14,133 --> 01:15:15,652
Speaker 2: think that's a bit of a problem, isn't it that

1537
01:15:16,652 --> 01:15:18,812
Speaker 2: there's not the safety in numbers because so many people

1538
01:15:18,812 --> 01:15:21,053
Speaker 2: are how they copter parenting that there isn't just a

1539
01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:22,812
Speaker 2: lot of kids around looking out for each other.

1540
01:15:22,973 --> 01:15:25,293
Speaker 19: And now my kids are crying all but so and

1541
01:15:25,333 --> 01:15:28,612
Speaker 19: so gets to play fortnite. I'm well, so and so

1542
01:15:28,732 --> 01:15:31,173
Speaker 19: should be down at the park kicking a ball with you.

1543
01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:36,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, spot on. Th thanks Michael, oh just quickly.

1544
01:15:37,013 --> 01:15:37,093
Speaker 11: So.

1545
01:15:37,213 --> 01:15:39,492
Speaker 2: But is it worth the cost? You say it's it

1546
01:15:39,532 --> 01:15:41,652
Speaker 2: is that expensive? Is it worth it?

1547
01:15:41,772 --> 01:15:41,932
Speaker 7: Oh?

1548
01:15:42,013 --> 01:15:43,692
Speaker 19: Yeah, I wish I had more money to spend on it.

1549
01:15:44,253 --> 01:15:46,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, nicely, Good on you, Michael, I mean no

1550
01:15:46,853 --> 01:15:48,892
Speaker 3: doubt about it. Teenagers can eat a lot, mate, you'd

1551
01:15:48,893 --> 01:15:49,933
Speaker 3: attest to that.

1552
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:51,213
Speaker 6: The hungry give are.

1553
01:15:51,133 --> 01:15:53,012
Speaker 2: There are only teenagers for a certain amount of time.

1554
01:15:53,133 --> 01:15:55,812
Speaker 2: So I've got two boys and they really, they really

1555
01:15:55,893 --> 01:15:58,612
Speaker 2: eat a lot. Yeah, it's an impressive how much they eat.

1556
01:15:59,093 --> 01:16:00,892
Speaker 2: But you've got to teach them how to make mashed potato,

1557
01:16:01,013 --> 01:16:03,333
Speaker 2: that is that is the key. Yeah, potatoes are always cheap.

1558
01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:06,452
Speaker 2: I can't go wrong with spuds, right, beckon a mo

1559
01:16:06,732 --> 01:16:08,133
Speaker 2: It is eight minutes to three.

1560
01:16:09,732 --> 01:16:12,173
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1561
01:16:12,213 --> 01:16:16,252
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1562
01:16:16,053 --> 01:16:17,812
Speaker 2: Said, be very good.

1563
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:20,972
Speaker 3: Afternoon side is five to three and we have been

1564
01:16:21,093 --> 01:16:24,253
Speaker 3: discussing the cost of raising a child. Was it cheaper

1565
01:16:24,293 --> 01:16:26,213
Speaker 3: than you thought it was going to be? Plenty of

1566
01:16:26,213 --> 01:16:28,173
Speaker 3: texts had come through on nine two ninety two.

1567
01:16:28,933 --> 01:16:31,052
Speaker 2: The sexts is you need to compare apples with apples,

1568
01:16:31,293 --> 01:16:34,293
Speaker 2: not these parents that are comparing kids born in the nineties. Well,

1569
01:16:34,293 --> 01:16:35,972
Speaker 2: that's the point of the study, saying that the cost

1570
01:16:35,973 --> 01:16:38,852
Speaker 2: of bringing up kids proportional to wages hasn't actually gone

1571
01:16:38,893 --> 01:16:41,852
Speaker 2: up that much in the last a few decades. It's

1572
01:16:41,893 --> 01:16:47,053
Speaker 2: about the same. Disposable nappies absolutely decomposed. What are you

1573
01:16:47,133 --> 01:16:49,652
Speaker 2: talking about? It takes a mere five thousand years and

1574
01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:51,372
Speaker 2: they're gone, says Gordon.

1575
01:16:51,412 --> 01:16:52,132
Speaker 6: Thank you, Gordon.

1576
01:16:52,652 --> 01:16:55,532
Speaker 2: Oh my god, who is that person saying that parents

1577
01:16:55,532 --> 01:16:58,053
Speaker 2: aren't happy? I'm another happy as hell parent. There's no

1578
01:16:58,133 --> 01:17:00,892
Speaker 2: amount of cost I wouldn't pay to have my beautiful daughters.

1579
01:17:01,053 --> 01:17:04,572
Speaker 2: They've grown up now and they are my best friends. Regardless, Linda,

1580
01:17:04,812 --> 01:17:10,052
Speaker 2: that's nice. This Texas is Tyler. I would recommend putting

1581
01:17:10,093 --> 01:17:13,333
Speaker 2: a bit aside each week towards nappies and formula. For

1582
01:17:13,372 --> 01:17:16,013
Speaker 2: whatever reason, the baby can't be breastfeed Okay.

1583
01:17:15,853 --> 01:17:18,732
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, good to know. I think I'm just

1584
01:17:18,732 --> 01:17:20,572
Speaker 3: going to do that. The Matt Heath trainer thought and

1585
01:17:20,652 --> 01:17:23,093
Speaker 3: save nothing and just hope for the best.

1586
01:17:23,652 --> 01:17:25,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, make it work.

1587
01:17:25,253 --> 01:17:26,213
Speaker 6: You've got to make it work.

1588
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:29,933
Speaker 2: You will provide what they need to survive, you know,

1589
01:17:30,492 --> 01:17:32,893
Speaker 2: you know, even if it's rice pudding and potatoes.

1590
01:17:32,973 --> 01:17:34,852
Speaker 6: That sounds pretty good. Actually, nothing wrong with.

1591
01:17:34,812 --> 01:17:36,452
Speaker 2: Hand me down sports gear.

1592
01:17:36,532 --> 01:17:40,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, great discussion, Thank you very much everyone

1593
01:17:40,013 --> 01:17:43,052
Speaker 3: who called and text on that one. Coming up after

1594
01:17:43,452 --> 01:17:46,333
Speaker 3: three o'clock it is New Zealander of the Week. But

1595
01:17:46,372 --> 01:17:49,492
Speaker 3: we also want to have a chat about email stuff up.

1596
01:17:49,572 --> 01:17:52,772
Speaker 3: So key, we over in London had a massive email

1597
01:17:52,853 --> 01:17:57,533
Speaker 3: stuff up. We'll tell you more about that soon. Massive humiliator,

1598
01:17:57,572 --> 01:18:00,013
Speaker 3: but keen to hear your email stuff are stuff up?

1599
01:18:00,612 --> 01:18:01,253
Speaker 2: What did you do?

1600
01:18:01,452 --> 01:18:03,253
Speaker 3: And tips for people to not make a dick of

1601
01:18:03,293 --> 01:18:06,852
Speaker 3: themselves when using the old outlook. That is all coming up.

1602
01:18:06,933 --> 01:18:09,532
Speaker 3: It is three minutes to three.

1603
01:18:10,133 --> 01:18:11,133
Speaker 2: News is next.

1604
01:18:14,652 --> 01:18:19,173
Speaker 1: Your new home for insateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1605
01:18:19,213 --> 01:18:22,293
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1606
01:18:22,372 --> 01:18:24,772
Speaker 2: Sabby very good afternoon to you.

1607
01:18:24,893 --> 01:18:29,612
Speaker 3: Happy Friday is six past three. Welcome back into the show.

1608
01:18:29,812 --> 01:18:31,852
Speaker 3: Very soon we will get New Zealand of the Week,

1609
01:18:31,933 --> 01:18:34,253
Speaker 3: but just before we do that, this is a great

1610
01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:37,372
Speaker 3: week story. Not great for the person who ended up

1611
01:18:37,933 --> 01:18:41,173
Speaker 3: reporting on this, but fantastic for our purposes. So key

1612
01:18:41,213 --> 01:18:44,213
Speaker 3: we journalist has landed himself in the spotlight after this

1613
01:18:44,293 --> 01:18:47,253
Speaker 3: major reporting blunder that's making headlines from New York to

1614
01:18:47,372 --> 01:18:50,772
Speaker 3: London to right here in Auckland. Obviously, Bevan Hurley is

1615
01:18:50,812 --> 01:18:53,013
Speaker 3: his name. He's a former New Zealand reporter now with

1616
01:18:53,093 --> 01:18:55,572
Speaker 3: the Times of London. By all accounts, very renowned and

1617
01:18:55,652 --> 01:19:00,652
Speaker 3: very successful until now published quotes he believed were from

1618
01:19:00,772 --> 01:19:04,412
Speaker 3: ex New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, but they actually

1619
01:19:04,452 --> 01:19:06,293
Speaker 3: came from a different man with the same name. The

1620
01:19:06,372 --> 01:19:08,812
Speaker 3: other Bill de Blasio sent back what's seemed like a

1621
01:19:09,013 --> 01:19:13,053
Speaker 3: legitimate reply criticizing a Democratic candidate and a friend of

1622
01:19:13,053 --> 01:19:15,892
Speaker 3: the former mayor. The real de Blasio obviously found out

1623
01:19:15,893 --> 01:19:18,132
Speaker 3: when this was all published and called the story false

1624
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:20,852
Speaker 3: and fabricated, forcing the Times to pull out the article

1625
01:19:20,893 --> 01:19:23,412
Speaker 3: and apologize and humiliating for all involved.

1626
01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:27,213
Speaker 2: Yes, so basically what happened is Bevin Hurley, the Kiwi

1627
01:19:27,253 --> 01:19:33,293
Speaker 2: journalist sent a email to Bill Deblasio at gmail dot com.

1628
01:19:33,333 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 2: I believe that was or something there about that, assuming

1629
01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:39,613
Speaker 2: it was Bill de Blasio, the ex mayor, and Bill Deblasio,

1630
01:19:39,692 --> 01:19:44,733
Speaker 2: the businessman, just responded with his opinions on the Democratic

1631
01:19:45,053 --> 01:19:50,892
Speaker 2: Meril candidate Mamdani. And it's funny because people are sort

1632
01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:54,892
Speaker 2: of accusing the businessman Bill de Blasio, who isn't the

1633
01:19:54,893 --> 01:19:58,133
Speaker 2: ex mayor Bill de Blasio, of being sneaky. But his

1634
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:00,932
Speaker 2: argument is I got an email from this reporter from

1635
01:20:00,973 --> 01:20:04,893
Speaker 2: the Times of London asking me what I thought about Mamdani,

1636
01:20:05,372 --> 01:20:08,732
Speaker 2: and I just responded, yeah, I think Bill Deblasio's he

1637
01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,412
Speaker 2: has as much right to be called Bill de Blasio

1638
01:20:11,612 --> 01:20:13,253
Speaker 2: as the ex mayor has a right to be called

1639
01:20:13,253 --> 01:20:14,612
Speaker 2: Bill de Blasio exactly.

1640
01:20:14,652 --> 01:20:17,093
Speaker 3: He was minding his own business. Then this journalist sent

1641
01:20:17,213 --> 01:20:18,852
Speaker 3: him an email and said, hey, what do you reckon

1642
01:20:18,853 --> 01:20:21,652
Speaker 3: about this? And like most of us, he replied and said, yeah,

1643
01:20:21,692 --> 01:20:22,892
Speaker 3: go go and give you a quote.

1644
01:20:22,732 --> 01:20:25,492
Speaker 2: Here he said, I never pretended to be the former mayor.

1645
01:20:25,652 --> 01:20:28,293
Speaker 2: I just thought it was all in good fun. So

1646
01:20:28,572 --> 01:20:31,372
Speaker 2: that that's just an example of something. I mean, I've

1647
01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:35,812
Speaker 2: done this before. Because you know, with another Matt Heath,

1648
01:20:36,372 --> 01:20:39,452
Speaker 2: because my email's got Matt Heath in it, and you know,

1649
01:20:39,692 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 2: I've been trying to send something to myself. It was

1650
01:20:42,053 --> 01:20:43,692
Speaker 2: actually what I actually did was I was trying to

1651
01:20:43,692 --> 01:20:46,932
Speaker 2: send quite a confidential contract to myself, but I thought

1652
01:20:46,933 --> 01:20:50,173
Speaker 2: a good way to send it to myself was through Gmail.

1653
01:20:50,572 --> 01:20:53,333
Speaker 2: But I just sent it to Matt Heath rather than

1654
01:20:53,372 --> 01:20:57,333
Speaker 2: Matt Heath in ZI. Yeah right, And as a result,

1655
01:20:58,093 --> 01:21:00,172
Speaker 2: I got a call back from I got a message

1656
01:21:00,173 --> 01:21:02,972
Speaker 2: back from a Matt Heath going, this is pretty he's

1657
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:05,892
Speaker 2: a pretty full on it's pretty full on confidential information

1658
01:21:05,933 --> 01:21:06,572
Speaker 2: you sent me here.

1659
01:21:06,612 --> 01:21:09,253
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad that Matt Heath is actually stand up person.

1660
01:21:09,732 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, Matt Heaths. I mean, I've never

1661
01:21:12,013 --> 01:21:12,772
Speaker 2: met a bad one of you.

1662
01:21:14,093 --> 01:21:15,532
Speaker 3: No, I can't think of any of the top of

1663
01:21:15,572 --> 01:21:19,372
Speaker 3: my heads. You're all right, you're all right, just the one, thankfully,

1664
01:21:19,372 --> 01:21:20,253
Speaker 3: you're the only one I.

1665
01:21:20,133 --> 01:21:22,492
Speaker 2: Know, just the one that's on the name of the show.

1666
01:21:23,612 --> 01:21:27,973
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we've all had embarrassing email, you know,

1667
01:21:28,053 --> 01:21:30,572
Speaker 2: email mess ups, so we want to talk about those today.

1668
01:21:30,572 --> 01:21:32,892
Speaker 2: As is sort of a PSA, I guess, a public

1669
01:21:32,933 --> 01:21:36,412
Speaker 2: service announcement is sort of a things to watch out

1670
01:21:36,452 --> 01:21:38,293
Speaker 2: for so you don't make the same mistake. So eight

1671
01:21:38,372 --> 01:21:41,173
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two you

1672
01:21:41,253 --> 01:21:46,093
Speaker 2: are most embarrassing and a dangerous email cockups with one

1673
01:21:46,093 --> 01:21:46,652
Speaker 2: of a bit of a word.

1674
01:21:46,772 --> 01:21:47,412
Speaker 6: Let's get into it.

1675
01:21:47,452 --> 01:21:49,213
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1676
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:51,732
Speaker 3: to call right now though it is ten past three.

1677
01:21:52,412 --> 01:21:55,452
Speaker 1: A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

1678
01:21:55,492 --> 01:21:59,173
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten

1679
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:00,893
Speaker 1: eighty us TALKSB.

1680
01:22:01,933 --> 01:22:05,133
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on

1681
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:07,333
Speaker 2: news Talks ZEDB. We name the New.

1682
01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:10,492
Speaker 20: Zealander of the an honor that we were stolen your

1683
01:22:10,492 --> 01:22:14,532
Speaker 20: behalf to a newsmaker who's had an outsized effect on

1684
01:22:14,612 --> 01:22:17,572
Speaker 20: the greatest little country on planet Earth over the past

1685
01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:18,333
Speaker 20: seven days.

1686
01:22:19,093 --> 01:22:23,532
Speaker 2: As always, there'll be two runners up, but only one winner.

1687
01:22:23,812 --> 01:22:26,452
Speaker 2: Without further passing around, this is the.

1688
01:22:26,492 --> 01:22:28,772
Speaker 17: Man Heathantana and it's up to Region Zealand of the

1689
01:22:28,812 --> 01:22:30,372
Speaker 17: Week now.

1690
01:22:30,452 --> 01:22:33,892
Speaker 2: The second runner up also gets the Unexpected Party Award.

1691
01:22:34,492 --> 01:22:38,212
Speaker 2: This week, the real Frodo Baggins crashed a full costume

1692
01:22:38,253 --> 01:22:41,572
Speaker 2: hobbit wedding at Hobbiton. The actual ren bearer was in

1693
01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:43,812
Speaker 2: Matamata with a few of his Lord of the Rings

1694
01:22:43,853 --> 01:22:47,173
Speaker 2: castmates for a reunion. He heard the music, wandered over

1695
01:22:47,492 --> 01:22:51,772
Speaker 2: and made Shirak and Jessica's life. Elijah Wood, you big

1696
01:22:51,812 --> 01:22:55,492
Speaker 2: Harry footage bastard, your hair so much you're basically a

1697
01:22:55,572 --> 01:22:58,852
Speaker 2: key week and as such you are second runner up

1698
01:22:59,053 --> 01:23:02,732
Speaker 2: for New Zealander of the Week.

1699
01:23:02,772 --> 01:23:03,452
Speaker 1: His story.

1700
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:07,852
Speaker 2: Pick your Blacks for our first time. Eight years after

1701
01:23:07,893 --> 01:23:11,052
Speaker 2: that shock lost to Ireland in the Windy City. They're

1702
01:23:11,093 --> 01:23:13,933
Speaker 2: back to settle the score and they've sold out the

1703
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:19,933
Speaker 2: ninety thousand seedar American Football Stadium, reminding everyone that no

1704
01:23:20,053 --> 01:23:22,812
Speaker 2: matter where they play, are all Blacks are always the

1705
01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:26,532
Speaker 2: biggest drawer in the world rugby. But more importantly they

1706
01:23:26,572 --> 01:23:29,052
Speaker 2: are first runners up for New Zealander of the Week.

1707
01:23:31,213 --> 01:23:35,293
Speaker 2: But there can be only one. Twenty years ago, he

1708
01:23:35,452 --> 01:23:37,892
Speaker 2: was a curly headed Kiwi bloke and has shared with

1709
01:23:37,933 --> 01:23:42,213
Speaker 2: an impossible dream launching rockets into space from little Old

1710
01:23:42,253 --> 01:23:46,012
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Now a Rocket Lab is a fifty billion

1711
01:23:46,173 --> 01:23:51,572
Speaker 2: dollar global space company and he is freaking rich. Peter

1712
01:23:51,692 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 2: Beck for ignoring all the bastards who line up to

1713
01:23:55,133 --> 01:23:58,252
Speaker 2: tell you can't do stuff in this country and instead

1714
01:23:58,452 --> 01:24:03,012
Speaker 2: for lasting your number eight fencing wire mentality into orbit.

1715
01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:09,213
Speaker 2: Congratulations on twenty years you pa see Matt and Tyler

1716
01:24:09,253 --> 01:24:14,172
Speaker 2: afternoons New Zealander of the Week looked after.

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01:24:19,572 --> 01:24:22,092
Speaker 3: Take get Away, how amyas.

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01:24:47,053 --> 01:24:49,293
Speaker 12: One thing that I'm always sanging on the key is

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01:24:49,692 --> 01:24:52,173
Speaker 12: that we just don't think big and do more and

1720
01:24:52,732 --> 01:24:55,973
Speaker 12: get after it on news talks'd.

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01:24:55,492 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon, due, and we are talking about

1722
01:24:58,532 --> 01:25:01,732
Speaker 3: your worst email faux pass. This is after a Kiwi

1723
01:25:01,772 --> 01:25:05,772
Speaker 3: journalist has landed himself in a pretty embarrassing situation after

1724
01:25:05,853 --> 01:25:08,572
Speaker 3: he thought he was emailing ex New York Mayor Bill

1725
01:25:08,612 --> 01:25:12,013
Speaker 3: de Blasio for a quote about a Democratic candidate and

1726
01:25:12,053 --> 01:25:14,412
Speaker 3: his friend turns out he was just emailing another guy

1727
01:25:14,452 --> 01:25:17,012
Speaker 3: called Bill Deblasio, who decided to give him a statement

1728
01:25:17,133 --> 01:25:19,892
Speaker 3: that was pretty critical of this candidates. So O eight

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01:25:19,893 --> 01:25:22,093
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1730
01:25:22,133 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 3: your worst email faux pas.

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01:25:24,772 --> 01:25:26,852
Speaker 2: The sixers said I had the same first name as

1732
01:25:26,893 --> 01:25:31,372
Speaker 2: the HR manager and was often sent confidential information, most

1733
01:25:31,652 --> 01:25:35,532
Speaker 2: notably all salary increases one year. Yeah, I had the

1734
01:25:35,652 --> 01:25:39,293
Speaker 2: very similar name. I mean, actually I still have and

1735
01:25:39,333 --> 01:25:41,492
Speaker 2: that the sky still does. Great guy actually very similar

1736
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:44,532
Speaker 2: name to me. It ended me, but he was right

1737
01:25:44,572 --> 01:25:45,932
Speaker 2: up the top of the company and I was getting

1738
01:25:45,973 --> 01:25:49,932
Speaker 2: seen a lot of interesting stuff. Yeah, a lot, a

1739
01:25:50,013 --> 01:25:52,452
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. Oh my goodness. I didn't read it,

1740
01:25:52,492 --> 01:25:55,173
Speaker 2: of course I never would. I took the moral high

1741
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:56,973
Speaker 2: ground and I didn't click on any of those attachments.

1742
01:25:58,372 --> 01:26:00,253
Speaker 6: Very good. He would have been pleased with that. This

1743
01:26:00,372 --> 01:26:01,572
Speaker 6: is a great text, kiday. Guys.

1744
01:26:01,772 --> 01:26:05,412
Speaker 3: I work in tech support and accidentally typed please die

1745
01:26:05,652 --> 01:26:08,452
Speaker 3: instead of please do. I didn't get a response. I'm

1746
01:26:08,492 --> 01:26:12,132
Speaker 3: sure of the outcome as a result. That is a doozy.

1747
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:14,652
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

1748
01:26:14,732 --> 01:26:18,812
Speaker 3: number to call? Nine two nine two your worst email?

1749
01:26:18,893 --> 01:26:21,732
Speaker 3: Stuff ups or cock ups? I love to hear from you.

1750
01:26:22,532 --> 01:26:22,772
Speaker 20: I had.

1751
01:26:22,853 --> 01:26:25,612
Speaker 2: I had a situation where my father in law I

1752
01:26:25,652 --> 01:26:28,532
Speaker 2: was supposed to get them tickets to this concert and

1753
01:26:29,492 --> 01:26:32,333
Speaker 2: he asked me if the tickets were and it had

1754
01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:34,612
Speaker 2: all been talked about and it was all all happy

1755
01:26:34,692 --> 01:26:37,492
Speaker 2: and good to go, and he texted me and I

1756
01:26:37,532 --> 01:26:39,732
Speaker 2: didn't know that. I just I meant to respond cool,

1757
01:26:40,213 --> 01:26:42,612
Speaker 2: like it's cool, the tickets are sorted. But I seen

1758
01:26:42,692 --> 01:26:46,732
Speaker 2: book and so he just thought it was incredibly rude

1759
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:49,253
Speaker 2: and went away and bought the tickets. Oh no, that

1760
01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:49,972
Speaker 2: I already bought.

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01:26:50,173 --> 01:26:52,012
Speaker 6: Oh no, that is a hoozy.

1762
01:26:52,532 --> 01:26:54,492
Speaker 2: So he was just like so it was like, so

1763
01:26:54,572 --> 01:26:56,133
Speaker 2: all that things we were talking about, we're on our

1764
01:26:56,133 --> 01:26:59,173
Speaker 2: way down. So the tickets are all good? Are they?

1765
01:26:59,293 --> 01:27:03,892
Speaker 2: And I just responded book and he was like, oh okay,

1766
01:27:03,933 --> 01:27:05,333
Speaker 2: well you said you'd get the tickets for me, but

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01:27:05,333 --> 01:27:06,772
Speaker 2: I guess I have to book now. So when I

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01:27:06,772 --> 01:27:08,572
Speaker 2: book the tickets, and then when we hooked up, I

1769
01:27:08,612 --> 01:27:11,013
Speaker 2: was like, you know, ticket's all good, and he goes,

1770
01:27:11,053 --> 01:27:12,892
Speaker 2: I boughked, like you see it, and I was like, ah, right,

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01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:16,253
Speaker 2: it's a doozy. That's a four hundred dollars cocker. I

1772
01:27:16,452 --> 01:27:16,812
Speaker 2: love that.

1773
01:27:16,893 --> 01:27:19,013
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1774
01:27:19,133 --> 01:27:22,772
Speaker 3: number to call. This one is quite controversial. Geta guys.

1775
01:27:23,372 --> 01:27:26,492
Speaker 3: A guy at my work accidentally attached a screenshot of

1776
01:27:26,492 --> 01:27:29,572
Speaker 3: a text exchange with his drug dealer to the whole business.

1777
01:27:29,612 --> 01:27:32,612
Speaker 3: Never seen someone scramble so hard to get an email record.

1778
01:27:33,053 --> 01:27:34,612
Speaker 3: I don't even know how you do that. I mean,

1779
01:27:34,652 --> 01:27:36,692
Speaker 3: that is an absolute cock up.

1780
01:27:37,133 --> 01:27:39,812
Speaker 2: Say that again, guys.

1781
01:27:40,652 --> 01:27:44,412
Speaker 3: One of my colleagues accidentally attached a screenshot of a

1782
01:27:44,452 --> 01:27:46,932
Speaker 3: text exchange with his drug dealer to the whole business.

1783
01:27:47,173 --> 01:27:50,052
Speaker 3: Never seen someone scramble so hard to get an email record,

1784
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:52,972
Speaker 3: so it sounds like he wanted to attach a screen shot,

1785
01:27:53,013 --> 01:27:55,213
Speaker 3: but he attached the wrong one out of his phone.

1786
01:27:55,692 --> 01:27:58,652
Speaker 2: Ah, that is a doozy, Well, there is. I mean

1787
01:27:58,692 --> 01:28:03,293
Speaker 2: the most common is the reply accident. Will reply all right.

1788
01:28:03,412 --> 01:28:07,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah. I see that a lot in this company. Actually, yeah,

1789
01:28:07,372 --> 01:28:08,293
Speaker 3: and it's pretty humiliar.

1790
01:28:08,933 --> 01:28:09,253
Speaker 2: It is.

1791
01:28:09,333 --> 01:28:09,572
Speaker 7: It is.

1792
01:28:09,612 --> 01:28:12,172
Speaker 2: I'm en I've replied all before, and there's that feeling

1793
01:28:12,293 --> 01:28:14,612
Speaker 2: that you have when you realize you've replied all. I

1794
01:28:14,612 --> 01:28:16,812
Speaker 2: also feel humiliated for other people when I see that

1795
01:28:16,853 --> 01:28:20,333
Speaker 2: they've replied all and they're just sitting there and some

1796
01:28:20,372 --> 01:28:22,492
Speaker 2: sort of personal kind of thing, and you're like, you've

1797
01:28:22,532 --> 01:28:25,812
Speaker 2: just replied to fifteen hundred people with with this little

1798
01:28:25,812 --> 01:28:26,293
Speaker 2: comment here.

1799
01:28:26,412 --> 01:28:28,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can't really tell them at that point.

1800
01:28:28,213 --> 01:28:30,812
Speaker 3: You just have to accept that they're going to find

1801
01:28:30,853 --> 01:28:33,253
Speaker 3: out and just be embarrassed for the rest of the day. Oh,

1802
01:28:33,253 --> 01:28:35,492
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1803
01:28:35,532 --> 01:28:37,652
Speaker 3: your worst or best, whatever way you want to look

1804
01:28:37,652 --> 01:28:40,013
Speaker 3: at it. Email stuff ups love to hear from you,

1805
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:41,772
Speaker 3: and also a bit of a PSA to people listening

1806
01:28:41,853 --> 01:28:44,173
Speaker 3: out there. What do you need to be aware of?

1807
01:28:44,492 --> 01:28:47,572
Speaker 3: It is nineteen past three, bag very shortly.

1808
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:49,973
Speaker 2: You are listening to Matt and Tyler.

1809
01:28:54,372 --> 01:28:58,052
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty

1810
01:28:58,133 --> 01:28:59,932
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1811
01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:03,213
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You we're talking about email stuff up.

1812
01:29:03,253 --> 01:29:05,772
Speaker 3: So eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What is the worst

1813
01:29:05,772 --> 01:29:08,572
Speaker 3: all best stuff up you've had via email? I one

1814
01:29:08,612 --> 01:29:10,253
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1815
01:29:11,133 --> 01:29:12,213
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through.

1816
01:29:12,652 --> 01:29:15,293
Speaker 2: This is a good tip. A tip I worked out

1817
01:29:15,893 --> 01:29:21,732
Speaker 2: through experience was when composing a lengthy or tricky email,

1818
01:29:21,732 --> 01:29:24,532
Speaker 2: don't add the sender until you have proofread and a

1819
01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:28,692
Speaker 2: happy to send. Accidentally sending a draft email isn't great.

1820
01:29:28,732 --> 01:29:31,692
Speaker 2: That's from Joe Anne. Yeah, that's that's a good idea.

1821
01:29:31,812 --> 01:29:32,012
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1822
01:29:32,013 --> 01:29:32,613
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1823
01:29:33,213 --> 01:29:35,692
Speaker 2: Another technique that comes from Abraham Lincoln, although he did

1824
01:29:35,692 --> 01:29:38,612
Speaker 2: it with just letters written in the old fashioned way,

1825
01:29:39,333 --> 01:29:43,772
Speaker 2: is to write the email, the angry email, as angry

1826
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:48,452
Speaker 2: as you feel, but then don't send it at all. Yeah, yeah,

1827
01:29:48,452 --> 01:29:49,612
Speaker 2: so you get it out of your system.

1828
01:29:49,973 --> 01:29:50,812
Speaker 6: That's a great tip.

1829
01:29:50,853 --> 01:29:54,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that

1830
01:29:54,452 --> 01:29:56,253
Speaker 3: number to call? Nine two ninety two. There's a whole

1831
01:29:56,293 --> 01:30:02,333
Speaker 3: bunch of texts coming through. This one, says guys, replying

1832
01:30:02,333 --> 01:30:04,492
Speaker 3: to a colleague late at night on an iPhone and

1833
01:30:04,532 --> 01:30:08,892
Speaker 3: her name Patsy corrected to pasty and for extra fun,

1834
01:30:09,612 --> 01:30:12,173
Speaker 3: editor pasty emoji in a few times, and as well,

1835
01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:14,852
Speaker 3: I didn't notice until late the next day. She didn't

1836
01:30:14,853 --> 01:30:20,333
Speaker 3: find it that amusing. And this one kiday, guys. I

1837
01:30:20,412 --> 01:30:22,933
Speaker 3: once emailed a colleague explaining in no uncertain terms that

1838
01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:25,532
Speaker 3: a very well known DJ artist was a total waste

1839
01:30:25,532 --> 01:30:28,293
Speaker 3: of space and his PR agent was basically wasting her

1840
01:30:28,333 --> 01:30:32,532
Speaker 3: time equally useless and needed firing. Accidentally c seed in

1841
01:30:32,612 --> 01:30:34,532
Speaker 3: the PR agent into the email.

1842
01:30:34,973 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 2: That is a dozy Peter, welcome to the show. Hey

1843
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:42,372
Speaker 2: boys here we don't very good great.

1844
01:30:42,652 --> 01:30:44,813
Speaker 18: I A little while ago.

1845
01:30:44,893 --> 01:30:48,492
Speaker 21: I was working for a large national arm and international

1846
01:30:48,532 --> 01:30:52,093
Speaker 21: company and a customer asked me to send a statement

1847
01:30:52,133 --> 01:30:55,213
Speaker 21: out to them. So I was only new to the company,

1848
01:30:55,213 --> 01:30:59,492
Speaker 21: probably three months, and I followed steps of the what

1849
01:30:59,532 --> 01:31:04,412
Speaker 21: the software told me and the bar you know, you

1850
01:31:04,492 --> 01:31:07,572
Speaker 21: get a bar says loading It just kept going and

1851
01:31:07,612 --> 01:31:11,293
Speaker 21: going and going and going, and I couldn't stop it.

1852
01:31:11,532 --> 01:31:17,532
Speaker 21: And it sent their statements to every single customer on

1853
01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:21,532
Speaker 21: our database. And the next next phone, all I got

1854
01:31:21,652 --> 01:31:25,973
Speaker 21: was from the CFO kind of like a little bit

1855
01:31:26,013 --> 01:31:29,732
Speaker 21: of addressing down, but don't touch things that you don't

1856
01:31:29,772 --> 01:31:33,732
Speaker 21: know what you do, and it was yeah, but a

1857
01:31:33,772 --> 01:31:36,933
Speaker 21: little this way, people paid their statements a little bit earlier.

1858
01:31:36,692 --> 01:31:41,333
Speaker 6: Than well, at least I came out of it, Peter.

1859
01:31:42,692 --> 01:31:44,572
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, yeah, I wasn't going to touch so some

1860
01:31:44,652 --> 01:31:47,612
Speaker 21: little last much longer at that company. But yeah, that

1861
01:31:47,812 --> 01:31:50,213
Speaker 21: was a good little a slight faux path.

1862
01:31:50,572 --> 01:31:53,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a great one. Thank you very much, Peter.

1863
01:31:53,133 --> 01:31:55,612
Speaker 3: And that's a good tip for people out there. Some

1864
01:31:55,692 --> 01:31:57,852
Speaker 3: texts coming through on nine to nine two.

1865
01:31:59,253 --> 01:32:02,572
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. I once sent a meeting invite to

1866
01:32:02,732 --> 01:32:05,372
Speaker 2: two of my colleagues. I then turned up for the

1867
01:32:05,412 --> 01:32:08,133
Speaker 2: meeting and they didn't. I wrote to them saying it's

1868
01:32:08,133 --> 01:32:10,532
Speaker 2: on professional. They apologize for this, and then I was

1869
01:32:10,612 --> 01:32:12,652
Speaker 2: checking my email I was realized I had never sent

1870
01:32:12,692 --> 01:32:14,692
Speaker 2: the invite. What an idiot I am?

1871
01:32:16,452 --> 01:32:19,932
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is that number two call?

1872
01:32:21,093 --> 01:32:23,653
Speaker 3: In nineteen niney two if you want to send a text.

1873
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:26,253
Speaker 2: I want you, sire, to send a text to my

1874
01:32:26,333 --> 01:32:28,932
Speaker 2: husband asking him what time he'd be home and ask

1875
01:32:29,053 --> 01:32:30,732
Speaker 2: him to grab a bottle of wine on his way.

1876
01:32:30,893 --> 01:32:33,452
Speaker 2: Ended up going to the president of a well known

1877
01:32:33,532 --> 01:32:35,812
Speaker 2: mental health organization who had the same name.

1878
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:42,293
Speaker 6: Oh that's a doozy, is it Gilly?

1879
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:42,772
Speaker 12: Yes?

1880
01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:43,772
Speaker 22: Hello, how are you going?

1881
01:32:43,893 --> 01:32:44,532
Speaker 6: I'm very good?

1882
01:32:44,572 --> 01:32:45,972
Speaker 2: How are you good?

1883
01:32:46,053 --> 01:32:46,253
Speaker 7: Good?

1884
01:32:47,772 --> 01:32:49,933
Speaker 22: So we were just driving out the driving way to

1885
01:32:49,973 --> 01:32:54,572
Speaker 22: go on holiday and my friend and colleague text me.

1886
01:32:54,732 --> 01:32:56,812
Speaker 22: She was on matunity leave. She text me to say

1887
01:32:56,853 --> 01:33:01,213
Speaker 22: that our boss had just handed over a whole lot

1888
01:33:01,253 --> 01:33:03,412
Speaker 22: of work for her to do and she was on

1889
01:33:03,452 --> 01:33:09,293
Speaker 22: maternity leave. And I text back saying, oh my god,

1890
01:33:09,492 --> 01:33:12,372
Speaker 22: you know he's so lazy. He just sits around with

1891
01:33:12,452 --> 01:33:15,092
Speaker 22: his finger up as it could have been so much worse.

1892
01:33:15,452 --> 01:33:18,732
Speaker 22: That was kind of very polite for me, and rah

1893
01:33:18,812 --> 01:33:21,293
Speaker 22: rah rah rah. And so then we were just driving

1894
01:33:21,293 --> 01:33:24,813
Speaker 22: down the road and she called me and she was hysterical,

1895
01:33:25,133 --> 01:33:29,452
Speaker 22: not laughing. She said, you just tax to our boss

1896
01:33:29,772 --> 01:33:34,372
Speaker 22: and I said, um, So, I was freaking out. And

1897
01:33:34,372 --> 01:33:36,652
Speaker 22: we were way on last two weeks and I thought,

1898
01:33:36,812 --> 01:33:40,853
Speaker 22: that's lost my job. It's all over blah. Blah blah

1899
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:44,053
Speaker 22: got back from holiday and he emailed me. He said,

1900
01:33:44,093 --> 01:33:46,532
Speaker 22: I just started to take you out for coffee and

1901
01:33:46,612 --> 01:33:48,492
Speaker 22: I'm what here, it.

1902
01:33:48,452 --> 01:33:49,093
Speaker 12: Is all over?

1903
01:33:49,612 --> 01:33:51,812
Speaker 22: And he said nothing about it. And I said, look,

1904
01:33:51,853 --> 01:33:57,092
Speaker 22: I need to apologize because I said quiet derogatory things

1905
01:33:57,293 --> 01:33:57,732
Speaker 22: about you.

1906
01:33:58,133 --> 01:34:00,732
Speaker 12: He said, no, Look, that's okay. All undred for the

1907
01:34:00,772 --> 01:34:01,772
Speaker 12: streets at the moment.

1908
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:05,372
Speaker 22: Ah, honestly I thought it was all over over.

1909
01:34:05,692 --> 01:34:06,492
Speaker 12: Oh that is funny.

1910
01:34:06,612 --> 01:34:09,372
Speaker 3: That is a good boss to understand that, Gillie. But

1911
01:34:09,452 --> 01:34:12,932
Speaker 3: that is an absolute doozy. Oh eighte hundred eighty ten

1912
01:34:12,973 --> 01:34:14,213
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call?

1913
01:34:14,893 --> 01:34:15,053
Speaker 4: Hi?

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01:34:15,133 --> 01:34:17,333
Speaker 2: Guys. Was very eager to impress my new boss with

1915
01:34:18,492 --> 01:34:21,253
Speaker 2: onboarding a new account. He had to fast track my

1916
01:34:21,333 --> 01:34:25,012
Speaker 2: request to do to complete it. He texted me all done,

1917
01:34:25,093 --> 01:34:28,732
Speaker 2: well done. I meant to say thanks much, appreciate and

1918
01:34:28,853 --> 01:34:32,852
Speaker 2: staid thanks to autocorrect. My actual play was thanks very much, muppet.

1919
01:34:34,853 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 6: Oh that is fantastic.

1920
01:34:36,572 --> 01:34:39,772
Speaker 3: All right, we got we've got so many good, good

1921
01:34:39,933 --> 01:34:43,572
Speaker 3: good stuff ups coming through on text machine, but we've

1922
01:34:43,572 --> 01:34:44,612
Speaker 3: got the headlines coming up.

1923
01:34:44,652 --> 01:34:46,452
Speaker 6: And keen on your phone calls.

1924
01:34:46,492 --> 01:34:48,932
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty what was your worst

1925
01:34:48,973 --> 01:34:52,372
Speaker 3: email stuff up? Your faux pa, share it and give

1926
01:34:52,452 --> 01:34:54,892
Speaker 3: other people a tip on what not to do. It

1927
01:34:54,933 --> 01:34:58,052
Speaker 3: is twenty eight past three headlines with Raylen coming.

1928
01:34:57,933 --> 01:35:04,852
Speaker 11: Up US talks'd be headlines with Blue Bubble taxis. It's

1929
01:35:04,933 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 11: no trouble with a blue bubble. King Charles has begun

1930
01:35:08,452 --> 01:35:11,732
Speaker 11: the process of throwing his disgraced brother Andrew out of

1931
01:35:11,772 --> 01:35:15,293
Speaker 11: the Windsor estate and stripping him of his royal titles.

1932
01:35:15,812 --> 01:35:19,412
Speaker 11: Andrew mount Batten Windsor's been engulfed and scandal for several

1933
01:35:19,492 --> 01:35:23,133
Speaker 11: years due to his connection to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

1934
01:35:24,013 --> 01:35:26,372
Speaker 11: Prime Minister Chris larks And believes New Zealand could help

1935
01:35:26,452 --> 01:35:30,612
Speaker 11: fill increasing demand for critical minerals. Its one topic on

1936
01:35:30,652 --> 01:35:33,133
Speaker 11: the table as he takes part in trade talks at

1937
01:35:33,173 --> 01:35:37,372
Speaker 11: Apek in South Korea. Meanwhile, ASB says New Zealand needs

1938
01:35:37,412 --> 01:35:41,133
Speaker 11: to work smarter as well as harder to get productivity

1939
01:35:41,173 --> 01:35:44,692
Speaker 11: to the same level as comparable economies. A report from

1940
01:35:44,732 --> 01:35:48,732
Speaker 11: the Bank to Day outlines output per worker remains twenty

1941
01:35:48,732 --> 01:35:53,213
Speaker 11: five to thirty percent below the OECD average. A fire

1942
01:35:53,293 --> 01:35:55,812
Speaker 11: at the Old fitz Herbert Tavern in central Palmerston North

1943
01:35:55,893 --> 01:35:59,492
Speaker 11: yesterday has been deemed suspicious. Police want to hear from

1944
01:35:59,492 --> 01:36:03,572
Speaker 11: anyone who saw someone suspicious at the site before the blaze.

1945
01:36:04,013 --> 01:36:07,853
Speaker 11: One of Topor's most loved attractions, the Whole in One Challenge,

1946
01:36:07,973 --> 01:36:11,532
Speaker 11: is under gone a million dollar upgrade, reopened after three

1947
01:36:11,612 --> 01:36:15,773
Speaker 11: months of renovation. Looking for something to watch this Halloween,

1948
01:36:15,933 --> 01:36:18,213
Speaker 11: you can see a full ranking of the fifty best

1949
01:36:18,333 --> 01:36:21,773
Speaker 11: horror films of all time. It ends at Herold Premium.

1950
01:36:21,973 --> 01:36:24,532
Speaker 11: Back now to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1951
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Speaker 6: Sayank you very much, ray Leane.

1952
01:36:26,612 --> 01:36:28,133
Speaker 2: You know in the New Zealand of the Week where

1953
01:36:28,173 --> 01:36:31,412
Speaker 2: Elijah Wood was runner up for New Zealand of the

1954
01:36:31,452 --> 01:36:35,053
Speaker 2: Week after you know, crashing that wedding at Hobbiton and

1955
01:36:35,372 --> 01:36:39,572
Speaker 2: everyone at the wedding was dressed as Hobbits's beautiful. It's

1956
01:36:39,572 --> 01:36:42,333
Speaker 2: beautiful footage. It actually made me quite emotional because these

1957
01:36:42,532 --> 01:36:44,772
Speaker 2: people are obviously the biggest Lord of the Rings fans,

1958
01:36:45,173 --> 01:36:48,173
Speaker 2: the biggest Hobbit fans. They're dressed up, they're having their

1959
01:36:48,173 --> 01:36:51,492
Speaker 2: wedding and then the actual Frodo Baggins turns up and

1960
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:55,093
Speaker 2: you know, just randomly he's there hanging out with Carston crew.

1961
01:36:55,133 --> 01:36:57,333
Speaker 2: It's actually one of my friends who was filming it.

1962
01:36:57,333 --> 01:36:59,572
Speaker 2: I've just found out. He's just well, for real, who's

1963
01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:03,133
Speaker 2: a friend of Elijah Wood and Timpson anyway? So they

1964
01:37:03,572 --> 01:37:08,012
Speaker 2: they it's gone viral, like tens of millions of views everywhere.

1965
01:37:08,412 --> 01:37:10,572
Speaker 2: How much money is Hobbiton going to make? Now every

1966
01:37:10,612 --> 01:37:12,652
Speaker 2: single person will want to have their wedding at Hobbiton,

1967
01:37:12,692 --> 01:37:13,013
Speaker 2: won't they.

1968
01:37:13,053 --> 01:37:14,732
Speaker 6: They're going to have to get him on retainer. He's

1969
01:37:14,772 --> 01:37:15,333
Speaker 6: just going to have to.

1970
01:37:15,412 --> 01:37:17,492
Speaker 3: Elijah's just going to have to stay there full time,

1971
01:37:17,572 --> 01:37:19,973
Speaker 3: down and jump into everybody's winning photos.

1972
01:37:20,133 --> 01:37:21,493
Speaker 6: But what a beautiful moment.

1973
01:37:21,253 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 2: And that would be you know, obviously he's still a

1974
01:37:25,173 --> 01:37:27,972
Speaker 2: very successful actor, but that would be a great retirement

1975
01:37:28,053 --> 01:37:28,932
Speaker 2: situation for him.

1976
01:37:29,053 --> 01:37:30,892
Speaker 3: Certainly would he could live in one of those little

1977
01:37:30,893 --> 01:37:31,492
Speaker 3: hobbit houses.

1978
01:37:33,053 --> 01:37:35,572
Speaker 2: He just moves at the beg end just pops out

1979
01:37:35,612 --> 01:37:38,932
Speaker 2: for weddings. Much How much would you pay for Fredo

1980
01:37:39,093 --> 01:37:41,652
Speaker 2: Beggins to turn up at your wedding? That's got a

1981
01:37:41,692 --> 01:37:46,092
Speaker 2: big question. He could do four weddings a day, popping

1982
01:37:46,133 --> 01:37:48,932
Speaker 2: out at twenty thousand a wedding.

1983
01:37:49,333 --> 01:37:51,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people would pay twenty k's to

1984
01:37:51,612 --> 01:37:53,213
Speaker 3: have Elijah Wood frodo at your wedding.

1985
01:37:53,492 --> 01:37:55,933
Speaker 2: But it wouldn't It wouldn't just have to be Elijah.

1986
01:37:55,973 --> 01:37:59,612
Speaker 2: You could get you could get Pippin yep. Sam Wise, Yeah,

1987
01:37:59,692 --> 01:38:04,213
Speaker 2: well these days he got killed recently in stranger Things,

1988
01:38:04,213 --> 01:38:04,572
Speaker 2: didn't he.

1989
01:38:04,612 --> 01:38:06,612
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, he's got some time up a sleeve

1990
01:38:06,812 --> 01:38:07,572
Speaker 6: and he's a nice guy.

1991
01:38:07,612 --> 01:38:08,052
Speaker 2: Apparently.

1992
01:38:09,093 --> 01:38:10,973
Speaker 6: Gandalf would be amazing. Gandalf.

1993
01:38:11,013 --> 01:38:12,812
Speaker 3: I know he's you know, he's getting getten up there

1994
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:13,732
Speaker 3: now in terms of age.

1995
01:38:13,772 --> 01:38:18,253
Speaker 2: But Sarah michallon, Sean Austin is his name, isn't it

1996
01:38:18,452 --> 01:38:23,933
Speaker 2: Sean Austin. That's get him down there, yeah, Aragorn, Pippin absolutely,

1997
01:38:24,372 --> 01:38:25,412
Speaker 2: Popin could make bank.

1998
01:38:25,532 --> 01:38:29,412
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Pippin and Mary absolutely, And that is amazing

1999
01:38:29,412 --> 01:38:33,812
Speaker 3: that that's a made Yours was a videographer. Oh one

2000
01:38:33,893 --> 01:38:35,452
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty, ten to eighty. We're going to get

2001
01:38:35,452 --> 01:38:38,333
Speaker 3: back to this story about emails stuff ups. So this

2002
01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:40,293
Speaker 3: is after if you haven't seen this story, it's a

2003
01:38:40,412 --> 01:38:43,933
Speaker 3: New Zealand journalist. His name's Ben Bevan Earley. So he

2004
01:38:44,013 --> 01:38:45,932
Speaker 3: was trying to do a story about ex New York

2005
01:38:45,973 --> 01:38:49,732
Speaker 3: mayor Bill de Blasio, and he sent out an email

2006
01:38:49,772 --> 01:38:51,532
Speaker 3: to who he thought was the ex mayor. It was

2007
01:38:51,572 --> 01:38:54,293
Speaker 3: the same name, Bill de Blasio at gmail dot com.

2008
01:38:54,492 --> 01:38:56,572
Speaker 3: Turned out It was just a fifty nine year old

2009
01:38:56,572 --> 01:38:59,692
Speaker 3: businessman from Long Island. He's a wine and border and

2010
01:38:59,772 --> 01:39:02,053
Speaker 3: his name was also Bill de Blasio. So he sent

2011
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:06,253
Speaker 3: that text out and I quote here just reading the story,

2012
01:39:06,293 --> 01:39:09,572
Speaker 3: the actual response from the the other Bill de Blasio.

2013
01:39:10,452 --> 01:39:12,932
Speaker 3: He said, I could have corrected him, but I never

2014
01:39:13,013 --> 01:39:16,732
Speaker 3: said I wasn't I was the mayor. He played along

2015
01:39:16,772 --> 01:39:20,333
Speaker 3: and he used chat GBT to compose a response criticizing

2016
01:39:20,532 --> 01:39:25,772
Speaker 3: this Democratic candidate's tax plans in particular as unlikely to

2017
01:39:25,893 --> 01:39:30,012
Speaker 3: raise the requisite revenue. And it turned out the actual

2018
01:39:30,013 --> 01:39:32,212
Speaker 3: Bill de Blasio was quite good friends with this candidate.

2019
01:39:32,372 --> 01:39:34,092
Speaker 3: So it's all gone absolutely haywire.

2020
01:39:34,412 --> 01:39:37,052
Speaker 2: So the KIWI gymnast, Bevin Early's working for the Times

2021
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:39,412
Speaker 2: of London. He just must have thought he had such

2022
01:39:39,412 --> 01:39:42,253
Speaker 2: a scoop because he's got an ex Democratic mayor, Bill

2023
01:39:43,452 --> 01:39:47,772
Speaker 2: Bill de Blasio, slagging off the current front runner. And

2024
01:39:47,772 --> 01:39:51,652
Speaker 2: then it's just not so the moment he realized, when

2025
01:39:51,652 --> 01:39:54,293
Speaker 2: that moment came in that he had just I don't

2026
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:56,412
Speaker 2: know why he thought he had the right email address,

2027
01:39:56,452 --> 01:39:58,173
Speaker 2: but he did. But the moment, because we've all had

2028
01:39:58,213 --> 01:40:00,533
Speaker 2: those moments in my life where yet just the magnitude

2029
01:40:00,532 --> 01:40:05,212
Speaker 2: of what you've done, what you've done, it becomes apparent

2030
01:40:05,293 --> 01:40:08,093
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, and now this is global news. I mean,

2031
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:09,772
Speaker 2: you've got wound. Is like us talking about it or

2032
01:40:10,013 --> 01:40:12,213
Speaker 2: exactly back home in his own country. During an hour

2033
01:40:12,213 --> 01:40:14,932
Speaker 2: of talkback on it, this Texas says, Hey, guys, I'm

2034
01:40:14,973 --> 01:40:17,572
Speaker 2: part of a global retail company. Each year, we have

2035
01:40:17,772 --> 01:40:20,013
Speaker 2: an annual conference and one of the knights is a

2036
01:40:20,053 --> 01:40:23,812
Speaker 2: dress up theme night that everybody gets them behind. Once

2037
01:40:23,853 --> 01:40:26,013
Speaker 2: it was revealed that that particular year was going to

2038
01:40:26,013 --> 01:40:29,173
Speaker 2: be Cowboys and Indians, coms went out to the entire

2039
01:40:29,492 --> 01:40:32,852
Speaker 2: country company, including the executive team and the board. This

2040
01:40:32,933 --> 01:40:35,372
Speaker 2: is where the cockup came up. Ayout, Someone at the

2041
01:40:35,412 --> 01:40:37,532
Speaker 2: head office clearly thought they were applying to a close

2042
01:40:37,572 --> 01:40:40,372
Speaker 2: colleague and accidentally hit the play with one of the

2043
01:40:40,372 --> 01:40:45,333
Speaker 2: most infamous lines in the company, aarseless chaps. As you

2044
01:40:45,333 --> 01:40:47,333
Speaker 2: can imagine, he never lived it down and is no

2045
01:40:47,412 --> 01:40:48,333
Speaker 2: longer with the business.

2046
01:40:48,572 --> 01:40:53,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh mate, that is so goodless chaps.

2047
01:40:53,053 --> 01:40:56,692
Speaker 2: That is very funny. But I would argue that chaps

2048
01:40:56,692 --> 01:40:57,893
Speaker 2: are always asseless.

2049
01:40:58,372 --> 01:40:59,412
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point.

2050
01:40:59,612 --> 01:41:03,732
Speaker 2: It's kind of you. You can wear chaps without pants,

2051
01:41:03,973 --> 01:41:07,052
Speaker 2: without jeans on, and that makes them assless, but whether

2052
01:41:07,053 --> 01:41:09,412
Speaker 2: the jeans are or not, the chap never provide an

2053
01:41:09,452 --> 01:41:10,492
Speaker 2: ass covering. It's good.

2054
01:41:10,492 --> 01:41:12,612
Speaker 6: It's a good point. The arseless is kind of defunct.

2055
01:41:13,293 --> 01:41:15,692
Speaker 2: Still I still get the Texas point.

2056
01:41:16,333 --> 01:41:18,692
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty what was your worst

2057
01:41:18,772 --> 01:41:21,172
Speaker 3: or best? What you want to look at it? Email

2058
01:41:21,372 --> 01:41:24,133
Speaker 3: stuff up? Nine two ninety two is that text number

2059
01:41:24,133 --> 01:41:24,652
Speaker 3: as well?

2060
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:26,812
Speaker 2: This Texas says Matt, How much would it cost for

2061
01:41:26,812 --> 01:41:29,612
Speaker 2: you and to randomly turn up at a wedding? Nothing

2062
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:32,372
Speaker 2: you're doing for free. I'm just desperate for people to

2063
01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:32,772
Speaker 2: hang out with.

2064
01:41:33,293 --> 01:41:35,093
Speaker 6: That is a great offer nine two ninety two.

2065
01:41:35,093 --> 01:41:37,053
Speaker 3: If you want met at your wedding, all right, we're

2066
01:41:37,093 --> 01:41:39,372
Speaker 3: going to play some messages, but when we come back,

2067
01:41:39,452 --> 01:41:41,412
Speaker 3: we're taking more of your calls. Oh, eight hundred eighty

2068
01:41:41,412 --> 01:41:43,972
Speaker 3: ten eighty what was the worst email stuff up you've

2069
01:41:44,053 --> 01:41:47,013
Speaker 3: ever seen? Whether it's yourself or a colleague, love to

2070
01:41:47,013 --> 01:41:49,812
Speaker 3: hear from you. It is twenty three to four back

2071
01:41:49,812 --> 01:41:52,933
Speaker 3: in a month, the issues.

2072
01:41:52,492 --> 01:41:54,972
Speaker 1: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

2073
01:41:55,213 --> 01:41:58,253
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

2074
01:41:58,293 --> 01:42:01,092
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoons you we're talking about email

2075
01:42:01,293 --> 01:42:03,852
Speaker 3: stuff ups and love to hear your best or worst

2076
01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:06,733
Speaker 3: one or the best one that you've seen from a colleague.

2077
01:42:06,772 --> 01:42:08,692
Speaker 3: And many of us have been there, whether it's reply

2078
01:42:08,812 --> 01:42:10,973
Speaker 3: all or sent the email to the wrong person. I

2079
01:42:11,053 --> 01:42:13,053
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2080
01:42:13,893 --> 01:42:16,772
Speaker 2: I was FORUGHD an email to attend to from a colleague,

2081
01:42:17,013 --> 01:42:20,692
Speaker 2: A difficult customer, I replied, is this but still nagging us?

2082
01:42:21,013 --> 01:42:23,213
Speaker 2: I accidentally sent it to the customer and not my colleague.

2083
01:42:23,412 --> 01:42:26,692
Speaker 2: Oh that is awkward. That much, very awkward. I like

2084
01:42:26,732 --> 01:42:30,173
Speaker 2: this text here, Matt and Heath not quite on topic.

2085
01:42:30,933 --> 01:42:33,093
Speaker 2: Would you consider changing your name to Heath and then

2086
01:42:33,133 --> 01:42:36,053
Speaker 2: the show could just be the Matt and Heath afternoons

2087
01:42:36,093 --> 01:42:36,852
Speaker 2: on new stik ZBA.

2088
01:42:36,973 --> 01:42:39,173
Speaker 3: It does flow better. I'm not look, I'm not against

2089
01:42:39,213 --> 01:42:41,452
Speaker 3: it at this point. I'll consider it. Let's just put

2090
01:42:41,452 --> 01:42:41,892
Speaker 3: it that way.

2091
01:42:42,213 --> 01:42:46,173
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it in your next contract negotiation. But

2092
01:42:46,293 --> 01:42:48,892
Speaker 2: maybe a useful tip. I worked as a lawyer for

2093
01:42:48,933 --> 01:42:52,853
Speaker 2: many years and had a wonderful, conscientious legal executive. She upset.

2094
01:42:53,333 --> 01:42:55,092
Speaker 2: She was upset to arrive in the morning to see

2095
01:42:55,093 --> 01:42:59,173
Speaker 2: some quite critical and unfair emails from two couples at

2096
01:42:59,213 --> 01:43:01,892
Speaker 2: separate times. I knew the couples involved and told her

2097
01:43:01,973 --> 01:43:03,652
Speaker 2: not to fret or worry, as I could see that

2098
01:43:03,732 --> 01:43:07,012
Speaker 2: emails were sent about nine pm and the senders would

2099
01:43:07,013 --> 01:43:09,173
Speaker 2: have had a few more wine or gins on board

2100
01:43:09,213 --> 01:43:12,493
Speaker 2: than they probably should have before sending the email. Yeah,

2101
01:43:12,612 --> 01:43:15,933
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you do think that, don't you

2102
01:43:16,173 --> 01:43:18,532
Speaker 2: If you get a really strange email from someone at

2103
01:43:18,572 --> 01:43:20,812
Speaker 2: eleven pm? I mean, if you get it at three am,

2104
01:43:20,933 --> 01:43:24,372
Speaker 2: you know for sure to ignore it, right.

2105
01:43:24,253 --> 01:43:27,253
Speaker 6: Yeah, something going on in their life, that what they.

2106
01:43:27,253 --> 01:43:29,932
Speaker 2: Say, You're pretty much going to let them off. But yeah,

2107
01:43:29,973 --> 01:43:33,452
Speaker 2: I mean, the time of day needs to be taken

2108
01:43:33,452 --> 01:43:37,213
Speaker 2: into account the content of the email, especially with your

2109
01:43:37,253 --> 01:43:38,293
Speaker 2: friends that enjoy a drink.

2110
01:43:38,372 --> 01:43:40,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean what late in the night on

2111
01:43:40,853 --> 01:43:43,213
Speaker 3: a Friday night is never a good time to send

2112
01:43:43,213 --> 01:43:44,012
Speaker 3: a work email.

2113
01:43:44,572 --> 01:43:45,333
Speaker 6: It's a good text.

2114
01:43:45,492 --> 01:43:49,932
Speaker 3: I who was a manager drafted an email. I sorry,

2115
01:43:49,973 --> 01:43:52,133
Speaker 3: A colleague who was a manager drafted an email for

2116
01:43:52,173 --> 01:43:54,892
Speaker 3: his girlfriend, who was not a manager, for her to

2117
01:43:54,893 --> 01:43:57,333
Speaker 3: send all your colleagues, containing, among other things, quite a

2118
01:43:57,372 --> 01:44:01,052
Speaker 3: lot of criticism of her departmental management. At the bottom,

2119
01:44:01,093 --> 01:44:03,812
Speaker 3: he edited a comment that it ought to make the

2120
01:44:03,893 --> 01:44:06,532
Speaker 3: idiots pay attention, and even her colleagues who are all

2121
01:44:06,572 --> 01:44:09,972
Speaker 3: brain dead could understand. He added that she should cut

2122
01:44:10,013 --> 01:44:11,932
Speaker 3: and paste the words into a fresh email and send

2123
01:44:11,973 --> 01:44:14,932
Speaker 3: it to everyone. She just forwarded the whole damn thing,

2124
01:44:15,053 --> 01:44:18,052
Speaker 3: his comments and all to her whole department. The sky

2125
01:44:18,213 --> 01:44:21,133
Speaker 3: fell in, it fell apart. That is a great one.

2126
01:44:22,253 --> 01:44:25,132
Speaker 6: Never fought on the email. Always right it yourself.

2127
01:44:25,652 --> 01:44:29,133
Speaker 2: There is a bunch of similar ones to this that

2128
01:44:29,173 --> 01:44:32,492
Speaker 2: Sam has just texted through. So this must happen a lot,

2129
01:44:33,452 --> 01:44:36,973
Speaker 2: a lot, Hey, Matt and Heath. Note this one says, Hey,

2130
01:44:36,973 --> 01:44:40,253
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler, our health and safety director sent a

2131
01:44:40,253 --> 01:44:43,372
Speaker 2: community a company wide email grilling everyone for not reporting

2132
01:44:43,412 --> 01:44:46,772
Speaker 2: incidents correctly within the business. The email was sternly worded

2133
01:44:46,812 --> 01:44:49,572
Speaker 2: but professional, but was still a bit ranty. When signing

2134
01:44:49,612 --> 01:44:53,732
Speaker 2: off the email, he simply stated regard, but with a

2135
01:44:53,812 --> 01:44:57,173
Speaker 2: significant typing error. He had type T instead of G.

2136
01:44:57,772 --> 01:45:00,012
Speaker 2: That was seven years ago, and we have been laughing

2137
01:45:00,053 --> 01:45:03,093
Speaker 2: ever since. You Sam, that happens a lot. It does

2138
01:45:03,133 --> 01:45:08,732
Speaker 2: happen a lot. I've done with the regard and why

2139
01:45:09,652 --> 01:45:13,333
Speaker 2: it's you know why it's correcting to the G to

2140
01:45:13,372 --> 01:45:16,852
Speaker 2: a T. That's that seems like a nuclear option, correcting

2141
01:45:16,893 --> 01:45:18,692
Speaker 2: from the G to the T on that situation. That's

2142
01:45:18,732 --> 01:45:21,692
Speaker 2: a massive problem with Apple because the difference between signing

2143
01:45:21,732 --> 01:45:24,852
Speaker 2: off a nice letter with regards and signing off a

2144
01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:27,053
Speaker 2: letter with the T the G change to a T.

2145
01:45:27,253 --> 01:45:29,932
Speaker 2: That's a world of part of meaning massively different.

2146
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Speaker 3: I mean that needs to be taken all the way

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01:45:31,372 --> 01:45:33,293
Speaker 3: up to Tim Cook at Apple because there's something going

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01:45:33,333 --> 01:45:36,732
Speaker 3: on there. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2149
01:45:36,732 --> 01:45:37,572
Speaker 3: that number to call?

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01:45:38,293 --> 01:45:41,773
Speaker 2: Hey, guys. I once wrote a very sexy and detailed

2151
01:45:41,893 --> 01:45:44,892
Speaker 2: and descriptive message to my wife on Facebook message or

2152
01:45:44,893 --> 01:45:47,213
Speaker 2: about what we were going to get up to later

2153
01:45:47,253 --> 01:45:49,492
Speaker 2: at home. I accidentally sent it to all my friends.

2154
01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:56,412
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice, I think, No, well it's what do

2155
01:45:56,492 --> 01:45:57,932
Speaker 2: you mean that's nice? Well it is nice.

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01:45:57,933 --> 01:45:59,492
Speaker 3: Well nice for the friends to be able to see

2157
01:45:59,492 --> 01:46:00,772
Speaker 3: that very detailed message.

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01:46:00,973 --> 01:46:02,652
Speaker 2: It depends how detailed. I mean, how much have you

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01:46:02,652 --> 01:46:05,732
Speaker 2: given away? You know what you're into? Yeah, very true.

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01:46:06,492 --> 01:46:08,133
Speaker 3: This is a good text to you. I work for

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01:46:08,173 --> 01:46:11,572
Speaker 3: an international drilling company. My operations manager took some time

2162
01:46:11,612 --> 01:46:15,492
Speaker 3: off and sent out emails to big companies Rio, Tinto, BHP, etcetera,

2163
01:46:15,612 --> 01:46:18,093
Speaker 3: saying he was going to be a way on. I

2164
01:46:18,133 --> 01:46:20,572
Speaker 3: can't even say that it's like and you'll leave, but

2165
01:46:20,612 --> 01:46:24,012
Speaker 3: it's there's a massive typo there and it's a similar

2166
01:46:24,053 --> 01:46:26,692
Speaker 3: word to bum I will be on leave for ten days.

2167
01:46:26,732 --> 01:46:29,053
Speaker 3: He never got a chance to forget about it.

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01:46:29,093 --> 01:46:31,333
Speaker 2: That's from Adam. That is fantastic.

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01:46:31,772 --> 01:46:34,372
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:46:34,372 --> 01:46:38,533
Speaker 3: call your worst email snaffoos. And maybe not just email snaffoos,

2171
01:46:38,572 --> 01:46:42,372
Speaker 3: maybe old text stuff ups as well in faux pas.

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01:46:42,532 --> 01:46:45,492
Speaker 3: I mean, arguably that's a lot easier to do via

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01:46:45,572 --> 01:46:49,052
Speaker 3: text than email. I know I've sentaply, had some doozies

2174
01:46:49,053 --> 01:46:51,013
Speaker 3: when I've texted the wrong person. So love to hear

2175
01:46:51,013 --> 01:46:53,333
Speaker 3: your stories, and if it's a colleague as well, out

2176
01:46:53,372 --> 01:46:56,333
Speaker 3: them now as your chance. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:58,612
Speaker 3: If you want to send a text nine to nine

2178
01:46:58,732 --> 01:47:05,173
Speaker 3: two plenty of texts coming through, Hey, Matt's. I once

2179
01:47:05,213 --> 01:47:09,812
Speaker 3: signed off an email with sorry for the inconvenience. However

2180
01:47:09,933 --> 01:47:13,612
Speaker 3: auto techs changed it to incontinent embarrassing. Oh did I

2181
01:47:13,692 --> 01:47:17,492
Speaker 3: mention I was emailing the judge? It's very good, all right,

2182
01:47:17,492 --> 01:47:19,612
Speaker 3: We've got to play some messages, but taking more of

2183
01:47:19,652 --> 01:47:23,253
Speaker 3: your calls on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It

2184
01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:25,612
Speaker 3: is a quarter to four. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

2185
01:47:25,612 --> 01:47:28,693
Speaker 3: I hope you're having a good afternoon. Back very shortly.

2186
01:47:31,253 --> 01:47:34,732
Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2187
01:47:34,973 --> 01:47:36,012
Speaker 5: everything in between.

2188
01:47:36,173 --> 01:47:39,412
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk zed B.

2189
01:47:40,053 --> 01:47:40,933
Speaker 6: News Talk zed B.

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01:47:41,213 --> 01:47:44,012
Speaker 3: It is twelve minutes to four and we are talking

2191
01:47:44,013 --> 01:47:47,013
Speaker 3: about email stuff ups and are taking your calls on Oh,

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01:47:47,093 --> 01:47:49,293
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2193
01:47:50,133 --> 01:47:52,133
Speaker 6: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? K

2194
01:47:52,213 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 6: A pet? Hey, how you doing very good?

2195
01:47:55,732 --> 01:47:58,412
Speaker 3: You send a bit of a email faux pas.

2196
01:48:00,173 --> 01:48:03,293
Speaker 14: I did this going back a few years now. I

2197
01:48:03,452 --> 01:48:09,012
Speaker 14: worked for a big international company. We had one hundred

2198
01:48:09,053 --> 01:48:15,133
Speaker 14: and twenty thousand employees back at the time. One of

2199
01:48:15,173 --> 01:48:17,173
Speaker 14: the guys that was from our Asian country. I I

2200
01:48:17,173 --> 01:48:20,093
Speaker 14: don't want to discriminate against any other age, but he

2201
01:48:21,133 --> 01:48:26,412
Speaker 14: thought he was sending an email to Asia Pacific HR

2202
01:48:26,812 --> 01:48:33,852
Speaker 14: about a operation he had done on his wreck. So

2203
01:48:35,093 --> 01:48:37,852
Speaker 14: instead of sending it to Asia Pack HR, he sent

2204
01:48:37,893 --> 01:48:39,373
Speaker 14: it to Asia pack operation.

2205
01:48:39,692 --> 01:48:40,253
Speaker 2: Oh No.

2206
01:48:40,412 --> 01:48:44,452
Speaker 14: And around about that time, there were thirty thousand employees

2207
01:48:45,933 --> 01:48:49,772
Speaker 14: and when the email popped in, everyone just popped their

2208
01:48:49,812 --> 01:48:53,333
Speaker 14: head up and started looking around and sure enough we

2209
01:48:53,372 --> 01:48:56,253
Speaker 14: all saw the same thing. And then people started replying

2210
01:48:56,333 --> 01:49:01,052
Speaker 14: back to all saying, you know, this is this email

2211
01:49:01,173 --> 01:49:03,812
Speaker 14: was sent by mistake. And then it just kept getting

2212
01:49:03,853 --> 01:49:07,452
Speaker 14: further and further and yeah, and then it clogged up

2213
01:49:07,452 --> 01:49:11,652
Speaker 14: the emails. Yeah, so that was a funny story.

2214
01:49:11,853 --> 01:49:13,612
Speaker 6: That is a great story. Did they ever come back

2215
01:49:13,612 --> 01:49:14,213
Speaker 6: from that pet?

2216
01:49:16,253 --> 01:49:19,692
Speaker 14: No, I know they didn't sign.

2217
01:49:21,612 --> 01:49:22,892
Speaker 2: We've lost We've lost your pet?

2218
01:49:23,213 --> 01:49:26,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, great, Sorry, thank you, Jerry, Welcome to the show.

2219
01:49:27,652 --> 01:49:30,412
Speaker 10: Yeah, hi boys, Hey, I'm a sales repped down on

2220
01:49:30,412 --> 01:49:34,532
Speaker 10: one engine and at the panel Beaten Trade and one

2221
01:49:34,572 --> 01:49:37,293
Speaker 10: of the bands I was driving had like different signs

2222
01:49:37,333 --> 01:49:41,492
Speaker 10: on all the different stuff we were set up. And

2223
01:49:41,652 --> 01:49:45,333
Speaker 10: the first one was a panel Beaten Tools and some

2224
01:49:45,412 --> 01:49:47,772
Speaker 10: of my customers. It was all big black and nice

2225
01:49:47,772 --> 01:49:49,492
Speaker 10: wives fortrans of high band.

2226
01:49:49,812 --> 01:49:51,013
Speaker 15: And they removed the.

2227
01:49:51,173 --> 01:49:57,093
Speaker 23: P and the B from the panel beating right. And

2228
01:49:57,173 --> 01:49:58,772
Speaker 23: I don't want to say, and I don't want to

2229
01:49:58,812 --> 01:50:01,293
Speaker 23: say what's left. But I was driving around Wellington for

2230
01:50:01,652 --> 01:50:06,573
Speaker 23: a few months unbeknown to me with that's been advertising

2231
01:50:06,532 --> 01:50:07,213
Speaker 23: in the back of the band.

2232
01:50:09,452 --> 01:50:12,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can work that out, and most of allis's

2233
01:50:12,492 --> 01:50:13,253
Speaker 3: can work that out.

2234
01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:13,852
Speaker 1: But that is.

2235
01:50:14,093 --> 01:50:19,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is hilarious, Jerry, that's fantastic. Thank you very much, mate,

2236
01:50:19,893 --> 01:50:22,572
Speaker 3: appreciate the call. A couple of tacks coming through. On

2237
01:50:22,692 --> 01:50:24,052
Speaker 3: nine two, nine two.

2238
01:50:24,372 --> 01:50:27,412
Speaker 2: On a local Facebook community page, a woman posted a

2239
01:50:27,452 --> 01:50:31,452
Speaker 2: message requesting advice on how to get rid of the

2240
01:50:31,532 --> 01:50:37,053
Speaker 2: smell coming out of her bag. Unfortunately, she misprinted the

2241
01:50:37,053 --> 01:50:40,693
Speaker 2: first letter of bag. As you can imagine, it was hilarious.

2242
01:50:42,612 --> 01:50:43,572
Speaker 2: That is Steve.

2243
01:50:43,732 --> 01:50:44,652
Speaker 6: Yeah, good on you, Steve.

2244
01:50:45,372 --> 01:50:45,572
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:50:45,572 --> 01:50:47,452
Speaker 2: I can't work that out. I can't imagine what that

2246
01:50:47,572 --> 01:50:49,572
Speaker 2: what that could be, there would have that would have been.

2247
01:50:49,893 --> 01:50:53,093
Speaker 2: It's just beyond me. I think we got time.

2248
01:50:52,853 --> 01:50:56,012
Speaker 3: For dares get I das here you going all right?

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01:50:56,173 --> 01:50:56,412
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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01:50:56,412 --> 01:50:57,772
Speaker 6: Good mate? What was the wrong email?

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01:50:58,853 --> 01:51:01,812
Speaker 9: It was a text message, I said, a text message

2252
01:51:01,812 --> 01:51:02,213
Speaker 9: to my lover.

2253
01:51:02,293 --> 01:51:04,372
Speaker 4: Weren't saying hey babe, don't belong I'm in your bed

2254
01:51:04,412 --> 01:51:07,133
Speaker 4: and can't wait to you know what all night long?

2255
01:51:07,173 --> 01:51:12,612
Speaker 12: But uh, cinema wife, right, disaster. Yeah.

2256
01:51:12,692 --> 01:51:14,333
Speaker 2: What it does as to day is you're going to

2257
01:51:14,412 --> 01:51:16,173
Speaker 2: have to sort that situation now. You've got to keep

2258
01:51:16,173 --> 01:51:17,693
Speaker 2: them separated absolutely.

2259
01:51:17,772 --> 01:51:17,972
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:51:18,013 --> 01:51:20,412
Speaker 3: That is unfortunate, dads, but thank you very much. I

2261
01:51:20,452 --> 01:51:21,412
Speaker 3: don't know how you come back from that.

2262
01:51:21,452 --> 01:51:21,612
Speaker 2: One.

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01:51:21,612 --> 01:51:24,652
Speaker 3: To be honest, mate, all right, I think that is

2264
01:51:24,893 --> 01:51:27,532
Speaker 3: us for today on that topic.

2265
01:51:27,572 --> 01:51:28,652
Speaker 6: But thank you very much.

2266
01:51:28,692 --> 01:51:30,612
Speaker 3: I mean so many texts, Matt, and so many phone

2267
01:51:30,612 --> 01:51:31,973
Speaker 3: calls on that one.

2268
01:51:33,213 --> 01:51:33,412
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:51:33,452 --> 01:51:34,013
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2270
01:51:34,572 --> 01:51:37,612
Speaker 3: But every Friday we have so many great callers to

2271
01:51:37,812 --> 01:51:40,612
Speaker 3: our show that every week we pick a caller of

2272
01:51:40,652 --> 01:51:42,572
Speaker 3: the Week. And this week we were talking about jury

2273
01:51:42,612 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 3: service because Matt, you actually have the call up and

2274
01:51:44,812 --> 01:51:47,933
Speaker 3: you're tuning up to the courthouse on Monday, and we

2275
01:51:48,013 --> 01:51:50,093
Speaker 3: had a lot of people with pretty negative things to

2276
01:51:50,133 --> 01:51:53,532
Speaker 3: say about being on a jury but we had this

2277
01:51:53,612 --> 01:51:56,892
Speaker 3: call from Victoria who actually loved it.

2278
01:51:56,933 --> 01:51:57,572
Speaker 2: And here she is.

2279
01:51:58,452 --> 01:52:00,932
Speaker 24: The ladies at the front, they goes O jorn it,

2280
01:52:01,013 --> 01:52:04,173
Speaker 24: we really appreciate you being here. They show everybody a

2281
01:52:04,253 --> 01:52:07,293
Speaker 24: video and Rosa all about this is how the court

2282
01:52:07,333 --> 01:52:10,732
Speaker 24: process works. You're really important to us. Last time I

2283
01:52:10,853 --> 01:52:12,612
Speaker 24: went through the whole process. So we were in this

2284
01:52:13,013 --> 01:52:14,972
Speaker 24: quite a cramped room, but it was still the same

2285
01:52:15,013 --> 01:52:17,133
Speaker 24: process with the tourney thing up the front, and they

2286
01:52:17,173 --> 01:52:19,412
Speaker 24: couldn't get the video going that they usually play, and

2287
01:52:19,452 --> 01:52:22,572
Speaker 24: the lady was like, oh, sorry, we can't get it going. Listen,

2288
01:52:22,652 --> 01:52:25,933
Speaker 24: I'll just do it, and so she just did the

2289
01:52:26,133 --> 01:52:27,893
Speaker 24: whole welcome thing herself.

2290
01:52:28,213 --> 01:52:30,133
Speaker 2: Oh god, see, I love it. It's like when the

2291
01:52:30,572 --> 01:52:34,932
Speaker 2: Stuart points to the exits and stuff. How good.

2292
01:52:34,973 --> 01:52:36,492
Speaker 6: So that gives you some confidence.

2293
01:52:36,532 --> 01:52:39,852
Speaker 3: Met You're down there on Monday and it turned out

2294
01:52:39,853 --> 01:52:41,812
Speaker 3: wrote to High Court the place to be.

2295
01:52:41,973 --> 01:52:44,092
Speaker 6: But hopefully that goes well for you mate.

2296
01:52:44,612 --> 01:52:46,892
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, I may not be here on Monday,

2297
01:52:46,893 --> 01:52:49,093
Speaker 2: depending whether I get put into a trial or not.

2298
01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:52,492
Speaker 2: So it's pretty exciting for me absolutely, But I am

2299
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Speaker 2: here in Wellington tonight. And if you're a cricket fan,

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Speaker 3: Matt the Special, I guess Grant Elliott, yourself, my nice

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Speaker 3: Stewart g Lane, How good?

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Speaker 6: How good?

2317
01:53:51,532 --> 01:53:51,692
Speaker 25: Right?

2318
01:53:51,812 --> 01:53:55,093
Speaker 2: Yep, you ghosts? Sorry you were talking you go.

2319
01:53:55,412 --> 01:53:57,093
Speaker 3: I just going to say, I think that might be

2320
01:53:57,173 --> 01:53:59,532
Speaker 3: us for another fantastic Friday, my friends.

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01:54:00,692 --> 01:54:03,772
Speaker 2: Absolutely and normally I'm trying to play you a song

2322
01:54:03,853 --> 01:54:06,173
Speaker 2: right now and ask you what it would what it is?

2323
01:54:06,572 --> 01:54:09,013
Speaker 2: I hear it is, I hear it is. Okay, so

2324
01:54:09,253 --> 01:54:12,852
Speaker 2: Tyler before we go, good friend of mine, Why am

2325
01:54:12,853 --> 01:54:14,492
Speaker 2: I playing this particular song here?

2326
01:54:15,053 --> 01:54:17,612
Speaker 6: As this Bill Wyman?

2327
01:54:19,173 --> 01:54:20,652
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, oh mate.

2328
01:54:20,732 --> 01:54:23,412
Speaker 3: This was because we ended up even some good chats

2329
01:54:23,452 --> 01:54:27,732
Speaker 3: about old Bill Wyman and amidst the former Prince Andrew chat.

2330
01:54:27,933 --> 01:54:29,933
Speaker 6: What's the name of the song just.

2331
01:54:29,973 --> 01:54:31,173
Speaker 2: See in rock Star?

2332
01:54:32,973 --> 01:54:35,093
Speaker 6: What a June? What is what isizue?

2333
01:54:35,133 --> 01:54:39,333
Speaker 2: Actually me, I think it's it's French, right, just sweet,

2334
01:54:39,693 --> 01:54:40,613
Speaker 2: just swee in rock Star.

2335
01:54:40,812 --> 01:54:41,012
Speaker 25: Yeah.

2336
01:54:41,093 --> 01:54:43,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he's just saying a lot of say

2337
01:54:44,053 --> 01:54:48,453
Speaker 2: fantastic actually a pretty rubbish song to say it's different.

2338
01:54:48,533 --> 01:54:49,573
Speaker 6: It's no Rolling Stones.

2339
01:54:50,373 --> 01:54:52,253
Speaker 2: It's basically saying I am a rock star.

2340
01:54:53,373 --> 01:54:56,493
Speaker 6: Fantastic all right. Nice to hear about a bell Wyman again.

2341
01:54:57,333 --> 01:55:00,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, not as credible as some of the hats he

2342
01:55:00,733 --> 01:55:04,853
Speaker 2: had while playing bass for the Rolling Stones. Yeah, absolutely

2343
01:55:05,453 --> 01:55:07,173
Speaker 2: all right. That brings us. At the end of the show,

2344
01:55:07,213 --> 01:55:10,693
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Are listening the great powerful Heather

2345
01:55:10,772 --> 01:55:13,012
Speaker 2: Dupless Allen is not up next?

2346
01:55:13,093 --> 01:55:13,972
Speaker 12: Is she? No?

2347
01:55:14,613 --> 01:55:18,573
Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens is in her, Heather Dipsy Ellen is away. Ye,

2348
01:55:18,772 --> 01:55:23,213
Speaker 2: so Andrew Dickens up next. Tyler will at the very

2349
01:55:23,293 --> 01:55:28,373
Speaker 2: least be with you on Monday. But until then, give

2350
01:55:28,413 --> 01:55:30,012
Speaker 2: them a taste to keep it from us. You seem busy.

2351
01:55:30,013 --> 01:55:30,493
Speaker 2: Will let you go.

2352
01:55:30,772 --> 01:56:11,173
Speaker 25: We love you.

2353
01:55:55,053 --> 01:55:59,893
Speaker 11: By We could go on the craft.

2354
01:56:03,053 --> 01:56:04,653
Speaker 18: Your dad and you.

2355
01:56:06,493 --> 01:56:08,772
Speaker 2: Just leave the gun Star John.

2356
01:56:08,693 --> 01:56:13,573
Speaker 18: Have on Brasla.

2357
01:56:13,093 --> 01:56:15,773
Speaker 2: Last out last Bo labor.

2358
01:56:17,413 --> 01:56:20,972
Speaker 18: There with me and come man breast day Love, Send

2359
01:56:21,053 --> 01:56:26,012
Speaker 18: me and balance, Just resign bun start, Just have bras

2360
01:56:26,173 --> 01:56:35,812
Speaker 18: and balance job last out Dace, labor with me, Come man,

2361
01:56:35,893 --> 01:56:40,253
Speaker 18: breast day Love, end me and balance. Just reasurn bron

2362
01:56:40,333 --> 01:56:40,653
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