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Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic. Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast,

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Speaker 1: were the defender, embraced the impossible, news togs.

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Speaker 2: Dead be morning and welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 2: It's a day on from Ozzie banning the insta for

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Speaker 2: the kids. So how long are we going to watch

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Speaker 2: it before deciding whether to follow suit. We're going to

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Speaker 2: speak to nationals. Carl Bates. Tourist numbers are almost almost

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Speaker 2: back to pre COVID levels, tourism holdings on that. We've

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Speaker 2: got a couple of export stories for you. One is

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Speaker 2: bad because of the tariffs, the other one is great

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Speaker 2: because of Kiwi innovation. And then Mark Cuban. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard of this guy, you need to billionaire from

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Speaker 2: the States, thought about politics, loves rugby. He's with us after.

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Speaker 3: Eight Heather Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Right, So we will end the year with Parliament's public

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Speaker 2: gallery shut, which is disappointing because we find ourselves, unfortunately

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Speaker 2: at the end of this year almost exactly where we

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Speaker 2: were at the end of last year, dealing yet again

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Speaker 2: with disruption in Parliament. Now I need to say I

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Speaker 2: like Jerry Browne. In fact, I think most people who

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Speaker 2: have a drink with a guy end up really like

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Speaker 2: Jerry Brownly. And if he is still talking to me

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Speaker 2: after what I'm about to say, I would love to

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Speaker 2: ask him what it is that he was thinking when

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Speaker 2: he sat there in the Speaker's chair on Tuesday, just

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Speaker 2: watching the pro Palestinian protesters chanting and carrying on above

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Speaker 2: the MPs, and why he didn't get to his feet

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Speaker 2: like I'd imagine most previous speakers would have and issued

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Speaker 2: an instruction to clear the gallery immediately. It is quite

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Speaker 2: weird watching the video if you know how parliament works,

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Speaker 2: it's weird because Parliament is disrupted. All the MPs just

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Speaker 2: sit there looking at each other kind of helplessly, and

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Speaker 2: then the speaker camera cuts to the speaker speakers sort

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Speaker 2: of half smiling, sitting there, focusing on the chanting, focusing

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Speaker 2: on the people, as if he's almost trying to chat

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Speaker 2: tack to catch what it is that by saying like

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Speaker 2: he wants to understand it. And this goes on for

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Speaker 2: about four minutes. It's almost as if Jerry Browne in

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Speaker 2: this moment, has forgotten that he's the speaker and not

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Speaker 2: just another MP, and he can actually do something about it,

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Speaker 2: and then after which he just dismisses it as performative

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Speaker 2: art like loll. Now, these guys should not, under any circumstances,

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Speaker 2: have been allowed to go on for about four minutes.

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Speaker 2: They should have been tossed out immediately because they are

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Speaker 2: actually a risk to the MPs below them. They only

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Speaker 2: in this case threw down pamphlets. The problem is if

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Speaker 2: they throw down something else and it falls on an

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Speaker 2: MP's head and you don't need me to tell you

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Speaker 2: what happens then, and if there is a leason that

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Speaker 2: we've learned from the Maori Party hucker which happened around

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Speaker 2: about this time last year, it's that you crack down

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Speaker 2: immediately if you're the speaker, or you will simply get

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Speaker 2: other people aping it, like Brook van Valden, who after

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Speaker 2: the hacker then tried to get her own social media

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Speaker 2: attention by dropping the sea bomb in parliament. We've said

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Speaker 2: this a million times on this station. If we want

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Speaker 2: good standards, we have to enforce good standards, and that

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Speaker 2: is a job that falls to the speaker and it

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Speaker 2: is a pussy and it is frustrating that we find

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Speaker 2: ourselves back here yet again at the end of a

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Speaker 2: second year.

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Speaker 3: What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Kirstarmer has paid tribute to a UK soldier accidentally killed

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Speaker 2: in Ukraine while testing a new defense capability.

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Speaker 4: His life was full of courage and determination. He served

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Speaker 4: our country with honor and distinction around the world in

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Speaker 4: the course of freedom and democracy.

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Speaker 2: Trump's EU security policy is still getting quite a lot

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Speaker 2: of attention. Here's the lib DEM's leader ser hed.

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Speaker 5: It repeats far right troops of civilizational Erasia and threatens

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Speaker 5: that the US government will cultivate resistance in Europe. No

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Speaker 5: wonder Vladimir Putin has welcomed that strategy.

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Speaker 2: Trump is still streaking the idea that affordability is democrat

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Speaker 2: hoax because everything is fine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the only thing that it's really going up

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Speaker 5: big it's called the stock market and.

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Speaker 6: Your four h one case that's going up. A lot of.

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Speaker 7: People misinterpreted and they say, oh, he doesn't realize prices

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Speaker 7: are coming down very substantially.

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Speaker 2: Well, economist sunt quite is convinced, and they're looking at

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Speaker 2: these things called facts.

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Speaker 8: Prices are remaining higher three percent, well above fed two

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Speaker 8: percent target. We still have high prices in the United States,

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Speaker 8: rising prices in the United States, adding to the already

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Speaker 8: high prices.

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Speaker 2: Now, venezuel And opposition leader Maria Karina Machado has accepted

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Speaker 2: her Nobel Peace Price award via a voice message, seeing

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Speaker 2: as she's been in hiding since January after Maduro put

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Speaker 2: out warrants for her arrest.

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Speaker 9: I want to thank the Norwegian Novel Committee for years

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Speaker 9: in Man's recognition to the fight of our people for

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Speaker 9: democracy and freedom. We feel very emotional and very honored.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a COVID trigger warning for you,

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Speaker 2: because it looks like masks might be back. The NHS

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Speaker 2: said masks should come back as the UK is facing

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Speaker 2: its worst flu wave ever.

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Speaker 10: The strain of flu that's bringing prevalent this year is

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Speaker 10: behaving slightly differently and is more easy, is easier to catch,

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Speaker 10: and more easier, more easy to pass from person to person.

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Speaker 2: And finally, tourists who want to go to the US

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Speaker 2: World Cup may find it harder to get into the country.

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Speaker 2: Trump administration has unveiled plans to force any and all

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Speaker 2: tourists to show their social media activity over the last

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Speaker 2: five years as a require I meant to get in.

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Speaker 2: They're going to check for any sort of terrorist support

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Speaker 2: make sure you haven't seen anything mean about great Leader Trumpy.

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Speaker 2: You'll also need to provide any phone numbers you'd used

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Speaker 2: in the last five years, as well as full details

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Speaker 2: on any family members, including children. So not being a

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Speaker 2: bit psycho at all. That is news of the world.

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Speaker 2: And thirty seconds? What am I talking about? Ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why I thought of thirty seconds. It's

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Speaker 2: because it turns out those guys who nicked all the

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Speaker 2: stuff from the loove got away from the cops with

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Speaker 2: only thirty seconds to spare. And it's because the security

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Speaker 2: cameras weren't all working. So what it meant is the

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Speaker 2: agents who were watching this all unfold in the security

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Speaker 2: security cameras often they couldn't quite follow it, And then

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Speaker 2: when the cops turned up, they were initially sent to

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Speaker 2: the wrong place. So if just one of those things

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Speaker 2: hadn't gone wrong, might have caught the bad guys. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: past six, the.

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Speaker 3: I'd be.

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Speaker 2: The tariffs to have hit one business Yummy Apples not

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Speaker 2: gonna It's just not worth sending the apples to the

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Speaker 2: States anymore because the tariffs are eating into the margin

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Speaker 2: that much. We're gonna have a chat to Yummy Fruit

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Speaker 2: about it after the half past news. It's qulled to

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Speaker 2: past six. Andrew Keller has sure and partners with us.

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Speaker 2: Morning Andrew, A morning have it. What do you reckon

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Speaker 2: about the Fed?

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Speaker 8: Ah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well we've got the Fed. They're stepping up to

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Speaker 11: the plate at eight o'clock this morning. They'll announce their

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Speaker 11: decision on the level of the Fed funds rate, and

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Speaker 11: everyone's expecting a twenty five basis point cud. But then

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Speaker 11: you get the press conference which Jerome House steps up,

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Speaker 11: steps up to the parlium, and of course there's the

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Speaker 11: degree of consensus around the decision. There's the outlook. That

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Speaker 11: is all what tends to move markets. First rate meeting

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Speaker 11: of twenty five basis point cuds. They have got quite

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Speaker 11: a bit of competing stuff in the background. Despite what

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Speaker 11: President Trump says. There is inflation still is sitting a

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Speaker 11: little bit high for the Federal Reserve, and they've also

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Speaker 11: got risks to full employment as well. Look, the futures

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Speaker 11: market's still expecting this and three more cuts in the

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Speaker 11: US over the next twelve months. They've got a bit

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Speaker 11: of a similar issue in the US that we have here,

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Speaker 11: and that the Fed funds rate will pull down the

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Speaker 11: lower short term rates, but they've still got pressure on

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Speaker 11: very large funding deficit that the government is running.

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Speaker 12: But Heather, All will be revealed at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 11: You will be on air. You can bring it live

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Speaker 11: breaking news. You could be your moment this morning.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for it. Thank you. Listen. What are

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Speaker 2: you making of the immigration numbers?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Look, so this is immigration numbers.

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Speaker 11: That immigration tourism numbers released yesterday by Status of New

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Speaker 11: Zealand for October. Look, annual migration is still pretty subdued.

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Speaker 11: Tourism though, I think is looking like a developing positive story.

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Speaker 11: And I think you're talking. You said you were talking

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Speaker 11: to someone later on about that. Look, migration numbers, they're

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Speaker 11: always provisional. We often get significant revisions over the ensuing months.

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Speaker 11: Provisional estimates for the October twenty five years a net

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Speaker 11: migration gain of eleven nine hundred people. By way of comparison,

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Speaker 11: five thousand, and to try, there's masses of numbers in here,

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Speaker 11: so let's try and keep them sort of fairly simple

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Speaker 11: and eye level. Arrivals over the one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 11: six thousand, that's down ten percent, so few arrivals, but

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Speaker 11: departures are up seven percent one hundred and twenty four thousand,

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Speaker 11: so fewer people arriving, more people leaving. Now, Heather, our

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Speaker 11: household is doing it's best to reverse the brain train.

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Speaker 11: Kellerher junior two back this week for good after seven

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Speaker 11: and a half years away. But he's in the minority

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Speaker 11: because that's not really happening. But he's also accompanied by

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Speaker 11: But look, by way of comparison, if I look at

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Speaker 11: and thirty five thousand, it's now at one hundred and

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Speaker 11: thirty six An annual net migration peaked at one hundred

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Speaker 11: and thirty six thousand netgay that was in the October

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Speaker 11: twenty three year. So this is a very speedy and

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Speaker 11: reasonably precipitous decline if you think think about that's only

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Speaker 11: two years ago, from one hundred and thirty thousand to

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Speaker 11: twelve thousand. Looking at a very granular level for the month,

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Speaker 12: Or two thousand and four hundred.

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Speaker 11: That will change, but at this point it's the strongest

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Speaker 12: So look, is the momentum shifting. I think you've got

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Speaker 12: to ask that question.

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Speaker 11: It's a result of a sharper recent fall and departures

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Speaker 11: they're down seven and a half percent and arrivals relatively stable.

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Speaker 11: It does look to me like there is a small

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Speaker 11: uptick in the numbers. We've still got to think about revisions.

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Speaker 11: The long term average if you go to pre COVID

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Speaker 11: was plus just under twenty nine twenty eight thousand, six hundred.

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Speaker 11: Just looking at composition of the migrant arrivals, the largest

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Speaker 11: followed by citizens from India and China. For look at

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Speaker 11: it over the year. Key sources of migrants coming in India, China,

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Speaker 11: Philippines and Sri Lanka. Of course, low levels of migration

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Speaker 11: weigh on growth because historically we've been hoarded people and

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Speaker 11: they eat and they've got to live somewhere, and that's

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Speaker 11: that's contributed to growth.

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Speaker 12: Historically we don't have that.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, tourism for the October twenty five October twenty five,

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Speaker 11: three hundred and three thousand people came in. That's above

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Speaker 11: the long term average for the year three point four

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Speaker 11: to five million. That's also above the long term average.

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Speaker 12: Of two point seven one million.

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Speaker 2: Right, I reckon, Andrew, have you got a wager to

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Speaker 2: a pretty remarkable thing to do as well. That's Andrew

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Speaker 2: callaher of Shaw and Partners. Italy is the first country

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Speaker 2: Heather Who the hell are you to talk about high

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Speaker 2: Have I got a list for all the misery guts

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Speaker 2: out there? The Advertising Standards Authority has released its most

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Speaker 2: That promoted the idea that fat that only a small

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Speaker 15: KFC med you you haven't seen the last one me.

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Speaker 2: That actually was a terrible ad. In the end it

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Speaker 1: real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news dogs had

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Speaker 2: Joe McKennon is going to be with us out of

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Speaker 2: Italy in less than ten minutes time. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: major apple growers is calling it quits on sending fruit

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Speaker 2: to the US because of the tariffs. Yummy Apples reckons

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Speaker 2: it's just not worth it anymore. Last season, the apples

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Speaker 2: Yummy Fruit and with Us, Morning Paul, Good Morning Paul.

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Speaker 2: Was this a tough decision or was this something that

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Speaker 16: No, not a tough decision at all. Basically, if they

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Speaker 16: sell it somewhere else, it's what you'll do. So apple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean is the tariff's the straw that broke

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Speaker 16: Oh, you're well informed. Yes, Wall Street's taken over the

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Speaker 2: Now, where are you going to send your fruit instead?

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Speaker 16: Well, that's a good question. Well, if it's a sweet apple,

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Speaker 16: But what we're seeing is a real drop and those.

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Speaker 17: The production of those tart apples.

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Speaker 16: So Braby used to be the biggest shipped applet in

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I love the tart apples. What about you?

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, I love them too, But you're the white girl.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm one hundred percent of Irish stock

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Speaker 2: It's mate Kunger. Basically it is if the tariffs are gone, right,

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's still a tough market. I will ship some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's next years harvest? Looking like as I'm hearing,

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Speaker 16: Oh, unbelievable. Had the warmest spring I can ever remember.

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Speaker 16: So fruit size is big, not a lot of frosts,

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Speaker 16: we're sick in here in a row. We're having your

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so pleased to hear that. Paul, look after yourself, mate,

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Speaker 2: have a nice dat as Paul Paint a yummy fruit

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Speaker 2: company general manager. Tell you what it is. I reckon

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Speaker 2: up you can, like you if you're prepared to go

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Speaker 2: core and all, which is what I'm into. Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: waste not, want not kind of thing. Eat the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: You're just left with that little stick at the end,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm reaching back into the recesses

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Speaker 2: You eat the core, absolutely, I eat the core. Don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the seeds, Yeah, just swallow them, swallow them home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also know that they come encased in

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: We are getting the first this kind of glimpse of

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Speaker 2: the first idea of how that band has gone in

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Speaker 2: Australia one day on. So i'll run you through that

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Speaker 2: shortly right now called at to seven and Joe mckinna

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Speaker 2: our easily correspondents with us. Morning Joe, Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 2: How'd that meeting between Maloney and Zelenski go?

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Speaker 15: Well, it was a very interesting meeting, of course, because

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Speaker 15: it's been such a big week for Zelensky after this

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Speaker 15: proposed peace plan from the US. He's been doing the

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Speaker 15: circuit in Europe. He met Prime Minister Kirs Starmer, French

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Speaker 15: President Emmanuel mccrol and the German Chancellor of Frederic Mertz

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Speaker 15: earlier this week, and of course a meeting with Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Maloney in Rome was next on the agenda.

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Speaker 15: So she's very supportive. Of course, she's been very consistent

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Speaker 15: in about her message about maintaining pressure on Moscow to

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Speaker 15: come to the negotiating table in good faith, and that's

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Speaker 15: a message that she reaffirmed when she met Zelenski this

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Speaker 15: week yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The Pope's got himself involved as well.

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Speaker 15: Oh yeah, it's interesting, Heather to ce Pope Leo coming

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Speaker 15: out of himself a little bit more. He's as some

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Speaker 15: of the reporters who traveled with him on his recent

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Speaker 15: trip to Lebanon and Turkey said to me.

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Speaker 19: This just this week.

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Speaker 15: He's very shy, but he's coming out a lot more

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Speaker 15: and looking like a voice of opposition, particularly to the

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Speaker 15: US President Donald Trump. He's been doing off the cuff

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Speaker 15: comments saying he he wants a peace agreement and suggesting

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Speaker 15: that without including Europe in these talks is unrealistic. So

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Speaker 15: he doesn't really want to see Trump sidelining the European leaders.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys feeling about the unice GO thing

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Speaker 2: must be absolutely phizzic.

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Speaker 15: Well, Italy is terribly excited, as you can imagine. One

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Speaker 15: thing that Italians agree on is their cuisine and how

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Speaker 15: good it is. And now UNESCO for the first time

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Speaker 15: has recognized Italian cuisine, the first country to be recognized

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Speaker 15: for its cuisine, and that includes everything from pastor to

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Speaker 15: parmesan to wine to terramasou all those things we love.

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Speaker 15: And that means that Italy will be include on the

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Speaker 15: list of what they call intangible Cultural Heritage assets.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. I mean, what does that even mean? Does it

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Speaker 2: lead to anything or is it just one of those

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Speaker 2: ones we go that you're awesome, ba's it look?

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Speaker 20: I think it is.

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Speaker 15: And usially, of course has many many monuments around fifty

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Speaker 15: I think on the UNISCO Cultural Protection Patrimony list. So

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Speaker 15: this is another thing to add that they're very proud of.

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Speaker 15: And the Prime Minister, of course has been already telling

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Speaker 15: the world how proud she is of the country.

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Speaker 2: I can quite imagine. Now, listen, Joe, is this thing

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Speaker 2: real about this guy who was running away from the

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Speaker 2: cops and the imposed as a ship? It in a

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Speaker 2: real life Nativity scene?

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Speaker 15: I know it sounds strange, and we know that usually

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Speaker 15: loves the Nativity scene. There are hundreds of them at

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Speaker 15: this time of year across the country, in all shapes

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Speaker 15: and sizes. There are some that use what they call,

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Speaker 15: you know, life size figures. There are some that actually

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Speaker 15: incorporate real people and in fact, in this case, a

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Speaker 15: Ghanian man was hiding himself inside a Nativity scene amid

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Speaker 15: these life sized characters, until he was spotted by the

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Speaker 15: local mayor, who thought, gee, that guy looks like a

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Speaker 15: real person.

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Speaker 2: But he did he just come? Was he already pre

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Speaker 2: prepared in shepherd's gear? Or did he just what was

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Speaker 2: going on there?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: I have to admit he looked homeless.

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Speaker 15: He's a fugitive. He'd been convicted in northern Italy of

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Speaker 15: assault and resisting a public official and got himself a

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Speaker 15: sentence and fled to southern Italy, and that's where he

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Speaker 15: was hiding in full sight.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. I love it looks homeless, Joe, thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Joe McKenna easily correspondent here. Why is what

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Speaker 2: the Pope thinks or says of any consequence? Well, hang

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Speaker 2: on a tech here, leader of the Christian world. Surely

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Speaker 2: you'd have to well, I mean, wouldn't you say that?

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Speaker 2: Like even the old protties nowadays have a look at

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Speaker 2: the Pope and go he's all right, don't they? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So well, one day on from the social media ban

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Speaker 2: in Australia and it looks I mean, I think if

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Speaker 2: you had to sum it up, you'd say probably looks

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Speaker 2: a little bit messy because some kids have different like

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Speaker 2: loads of kids have been taken off, some kids completely unaffected,

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Speaker 2: as if they're rolling around like the twenty years old,

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Speaker 2: and some are gloating that they're able to pass the

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Speaker 2: facial scanning and then continue to pose as over sixteen

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Speaker 2: year old by for example, scanning their forty six year

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Speaker 2: old mother's face things like as a question about parents

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Speaker 2: at parenting there. But anyway, a reporter at the Sydney

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Speaker 2: Morning Herald had a bit of a crack at it

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Speaker 2: himself to see how it went. So he went on

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Speaker 2: x Twitter, pretended to be fourteen and was blocked. But

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Speaker 2: when he changed his birth date to look like he

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Speaker 2: was thirty seven, he was allowed straight in, no questions asked.

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Speaker 2: So that's a pretty flimsy security system there. Instagram wouldn't

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Speaker 2: let him in when he said he was under sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Then he tried again, he changed it so he said

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Speaker 2: he was twenty eight. It let him in, but there

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Speaker 2: was a really long pause when accepting the terms and conditions,

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Speaker 2: which he thinks indicates the system may have actually been

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Speaker 2: running background checks and was satisfied that he was actually

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Speaker 2: what he said he was, which is over sixteen years old.

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Speaker 2: On Reddit, he said he was sick. Let him in

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Speaker 2: no questions. Asked again problematic tiktoks, he said he was

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Speaker 2: under sixteen, it blocked him. Then when he came back

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Speaker 2: and tried to say he was older, it wouldn't let

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Speaker 2: him set up a new account whatever his age was,

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Speaker 2: which indicates that his device or network address may have

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Speaker 2: been blacklisted after the first attempt. And then when he

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Speaker 2: went to Snapchat to try even though he said he

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Speaker 2: was older, it did the same thing blocked him, and

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Speaker 2: he thinks it's maybe because of the TikTok attempt. So

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Speaker 2: as you can see messy and yeah, some you'd have

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Speaker 2: to say probably not trying hard enough. Ten away from

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Speaker 2: seven Heather.

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Speaker 1: Dou plus Y Allen on the mic Asking Breakfast where

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Speaker 1: the Defender and news togs hea'd be.

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Speaker 2: I got some good numbers for you, some good tourism

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Speaker 2: numbers for you. The visitor arrivals are going up to

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Speaker 2: the extent that we are now about ninety six and

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Speaker 2: a half percent away from pre COVID levels, and you

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Speaker 2: have to be happy about that. Chinese still really really low,

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Speaker 2: like really low. Ozzie's holding it up. Grant Webster, who

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Tourism Holdings, will be with us

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Speaker 2: after seven and talk us through that I actually should

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Speaker 2: have said after seven o'clock. We're also going to talk

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Speaker 2: to Carl Bates, who's the chap who was chairing the

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Speaker 2: select committee that had a look at whether we're going

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Speaker 2: to do the social media ban after Australia, and he

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Speaker 2: will give us his take on how long it's going

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Speaker 2: to take us to basically make up our minds. It's

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Speaker 2: six away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the outs, it's the fears with business.

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Speaker 1: Fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So if the Trump administration doesn't think that the tariffs

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Speaker 2: affect Americans, they may want to ask small business owners

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Speaker 2: how they feel about it. The National Federation of Independent

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Speaker 2: Business's new report found that the number of small businesses

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Speaker 2: increasing their prices in November jump by an all time high.

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Speaker 2: Usually about thirteen percent of businesses raise their prices each month,

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Speaker 2: and November it was thirty four percent, the highest recording

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Speaker 2: since COVID, And over the next three months, thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of businesses say prices will absolutely be going up again,

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Speaker 2: and for those who reported lower profits. Twenty seven of

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Speaker 2: them blamed weaker sales, So there's your affordability hoax. I

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Speaker 2: suppose sixteen percent blamed rising material costs i e. The tariffs,

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Speaker 2: and twelve percent said it was labor costs going up.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll see how long it takes. Sim speaking

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Speaker 2: of how long things take to realize. Now you heard

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Speaker 2: of Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban is He was on Dragon's Den.

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Speaker 2: If you ever watched it, you'll know the name. You'll

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Speaker 2: know who I'm talking about. He's a billionaire in the States.

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Speaker 2: He kind of for a little bit during the last

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Speaker 2: election flushed with the possibility of going into politics. Not

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of Donald Trump, to be fair. Not

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of the Democrats as well. And he's

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Speaker 2: owner of the Dallas Mavericks basketball team. Loves rugby, apparently

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Speaker 2: a huge fan of the old rugby. So he's going

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Speaker 2: to be he seems like a fascinating guy. Is going

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Speaker 2: to be with us after eight o'clock, So stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you like hearing about Kiwi's doing well in the world,

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Speaker 2: like I do, I was really pleased to read about

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Speaker 2: this as Color now as Color has just sold a

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Speaker 2: stake to a Sydney based private equity firm called Quadrant.

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Speaker 2: And this particular part of Quadrant that's put the money

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Speaker 2: into AS Color specializes in partnering with high growth companies

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Speaker 2: through minority stakes and they deal with big money at Quadrant,

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Speaker 2: right like. Other investments made by the fund include Canvas

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Speaker 2: and Allied People Management and EMM Consulting and Endgame Analytics,

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Speaker 2: and all of that funding totaled more than about very

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Speaker 2: close to one point two billion New Zealand dollars. Now

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Speaker 2: we don't know exactly officially how much they have bought

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Speaker 2: out of as Color, but the Australian Financial Review reckons

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Speaker 2: it's about twenty one percent and they've bought it from

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Speaker 2: I think it's Direct Capital or some other equity firm. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: as Color is actually an amazing story. It was founded

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Speaker 2: in Auckland in two thousand and five. It's got twenty

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Speaker 2: seven stores now across New Zealand, Australia, the United States,

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Speaker 2: United Kingdom and Europe, turnover of about half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know as Color, you need to get

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Speaker 2: to know as Color because it's gonna change your life.

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Speaker 2: Because it's just you go in there, you don't you

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Speaker 2: don't have to fork out huge amounts of money, but

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Speaker 2: you walk out with decent gear, with like just the basics, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, basic black hat, basic black backpack, white T shirt,

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Speaker 2: gray shorts and gym gear that doesn't embarrass you, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't cost you, the socks, everything you could possibly want.

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Speaker 2: How good is that from a KeyWe company?

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Speaker 3: Well done then, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida,

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs Head be good morning.

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Speaker 2: One day on from Australia officially banning social media for

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Speaker 2: under sixteens, and the verdict is mixed. Plenty of kids

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Speaker 2: have been kicked off the old instan TikTok, but loads

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Speaker 2: are still on their happily browsing away back here. Our

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Speaker 2: parliament's given its interim verdict on whether we should do

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Speaker 2: the same in Carl Bates is the acting chair of

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Speaker 2: the Education and Workforce Select Committee and is with us

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Speaker 2: morning Carl, Good morning, Heather. How long are we going

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Speaker 2: to watch Australia before we make up our lines?

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Speaker 14: So our final report is due early in the new year,

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Speaker 14: and so you will get a clear indication when that

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Speaker 14: comes out, as I say, earlier in the new year.

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Speaker 14: But at the state that's very clear from the majority

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Speaker 14: of members of the Committee that undertaking the band here

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Speaker 14: in Zama would be a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So will that final report when it comes out

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Speaker 2: actually say yes or no we should do it.

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Speaker 14: So there are a couple of things the Committee has

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Speaker 14: already said it since we should do the band being

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Speaker 14: one of them, the introduction of an online regulator being another.

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Speaker 14: And then there were a number of points where the

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Speaker 14: Committee said these require further consideration and will provide some

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Speaker 14: final views in the final important what.

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Speaker 2: Do you think success in Australia looks like.

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Speaker 14: So there's no doubt teenagers will get around it, as

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Speaker 14: you've been saying, just as they do buying alcohol and

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Speaker 14: driving when they don't have the right license. However, this

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Speaker 14: is about a culture shift I think, and the majority

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Speaker 14: of the Committee believe we need to do this now,

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Speaker 14: that we need to step up if.

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Speaker 12: It's to ensure the.

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Speaker 14: Internet is a safe place for our children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, ultimately this will live die based on

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Speaker 2: whether you can get ACT support. How do you feel

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Speaker 2: about that because they don't sound like they love it.

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Speaker 14: Well, not necessarily. Labor have said that they support restricting

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Speaker 14: online access for under sixteen year old So maybe next

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Speaker 14: time you have someone from Labor on the show, you'll

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Speaker 14: be able to ask them to stay. Are keen to

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Speaker 14: Pullcatch and Weed's members bill out of the biscuit to

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Speaker 14: now and get on with it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Fair point? Okay, Now, having looked into this as a

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Speaker 2: parent yourself, what have you come out of it more

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Speaker 2: concerned about? Is it the scrolling and what it does

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Speaker 2: to the kids on the social media or is it

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Speaker 2: the harassment and bullying that happens between them on these platforms.

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Speaker 14: So I think when you look at what the committee did,

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Speaker 14: we went much wider than just the online social media

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Speaker 14: harm component. So we look at content, so the self

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Speaker 14: harm issues, the manipulation, We look at conduct, so the

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Speaker 14: sharing of information, sexteen newd step fas, all of that,

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Speaker 14: the contact stuff that you've been referring to, their cyberbullety,

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Speaker 14: bullying and harassment, and then also commerce that happens for

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Speaker 14: our teenagers as well, scams and gambling and these things.

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Speaker 14: And there are some pretty horroring stories that chain through

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Speaker 14: the selectivity process where parents are and individual shared their

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Speaker 14: experiences and I just want to shout out to them

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Speaker 14: for opening up and sharing their personal stories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, thank you very much, Carla, to appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: That's Carl Bates, acting Chair of the Educational Workforce Committee

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Speaker 2: here that Martin Luther King told us we are morally

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Speaker 2: obligated to disobey bad law, and now banning under sixteen

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Speaker 2: year olds from learning media social media is certainly bad law,

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Speaker 2: and I will definitely be encouraging and helping my kids

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Speaker 2: to circumvent that law should be implemented in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But nuts, isn't it ten past seven?

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Speaker 3: Together? Duplessye? Ellen?

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Speaker 2: More good news on the tourism front. Arrivals are up

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Speaker 2: six percent in the year to October, so we're getting

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Speaker 2: very close to three and a half million visitors, which

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Speaker 2: means we are now at ninety six and a half

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Speaker 2: percent of pre COVID levels, so tantalizingly close. Grant Webster

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Speaker 2: is the CEO of Tourism Holdings Limited.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Grant, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Are you heartened by what you're seeing?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 20: Very much?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 20: Yeah. Great for the economy, right, and good for all

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Speaker 20: the tourism industry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, loads of Aussies coming over What is I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's basically a record. What is it that they're loving

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Speaker 2: over here?

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Speaker 20: I think we are a cheap destination relative to America

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Speaker 20: and other locations at the moment, plus some very strong

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Speaker 20: marketing from Tourism Museum.

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Speaker 2: Oh so do you think it's that weird ad? I

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Speaker 2: can't remember what the ad was. Would you reckon that's

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Speaker 2: paying off?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 20: Yeah? Look, you spend in that market and you get

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Speaker 20: good airline capacity and watch what happens now.

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Speaker 2: China still seems to be a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: problem and we're around about half pre COVID levels. Is

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Speaker 2: this just the new normal that we need to get

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Speaker 2: used to the Chinese and not going to come back

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Speaker 2: in those numbers.

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Speaker 20: No, I don't think so. I think it's just a

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Speaker 20: matter of time. So it was a lot later start.

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Speaker 20: You know, we had a few things from these perspective

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Speaker 20: that we had changed in calendar twenty four. That's been

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Speaker 20: rectified by the government in twenty five. Latest change with

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Speaker 20: allowing Australia visas and certain situations to flow through for

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Speaker 20: Chinese makes a big difference. Table was a bigger lift

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Speaker 20: actually so I think I think we're on the right

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Speaker 20: track now for China and we'll get back there. The

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Speaker 20: numbers will get back there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how how some are looking for You guys are

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Speaker 2: busy as.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, really busy. So New Zealand will be somewhere around

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Speaker 20: twenty percent up in revenue over the summer period.

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Speaker 2: Great, yeah, brilliant stuff.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I saw in the papers the other day you guys

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Speaker 2: are shutting down some manufacturing and Aussie and then you're

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Speaker 2: moving out over to Hamilton, which feels like the opposite

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Speaker 2: of what's happening in this country. So what's brought that off?

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Speaker 20: I just mentioned before Ozzie's are coming here because we're

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Speaker 20: a cheaper destination where at the factors we're a cheaper

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Speaker 20: destination to manufacture, so our labor rate's a cheaper rents,

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Speaker 20: cheaper dot dot dot. So sad reality for Australian manufacturing. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 20: the right thing for us to do.

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Speaker 2: Grant Listen, thanks very much appreciated, Grant Webster, CEO of

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Speaker 2: Tourism Holdings Limited. It was the everyone must Go a campaign,

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Speaker 2: That's what it was. Thirteen parts together do for CLA.

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Speaker 11: Okay, this business of.

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Speaker 2: The principle spending money on trips overseas and trips to

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Speaker 2: Queenstown and adventure tourism. Stuff is getting uglier. The case

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Speaker 2: that's emerged today is the principle of Teppiner School in Mercer,

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Speaker 2: which is south of Auckland. Turns out that back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, the school paid for flights totally. I

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Speaker 2: think it was more than eleven thousand dollars slightly more

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Speaker 2: like eleven thousand, four hundred or something like that anyway,

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Speaker 2: and the school was paying for flights for his family

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Speaker 2: to go to Arotona. And the school says that it

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Speaker 2: did this on the understanding that they would be that

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Speaker 2: the school would be reimbursed at the time of an

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Speaker 2: audit being done on the school, which is in May

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, So two years later, none of the

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Speaker 2: funds had been repaid. Now the principal has defended himself

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Speaker 2: saying oh no, no, no, I've repaid it now, and

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Speaker 2: he's done this in a text message to media. The

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Speaker 2: trouble is the Board of trustees presiding member Mandy Gillett

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Speaker 2: did not respond to a request for comment, which means

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Speaker 2: that that account cannot be verified. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: have to take his word for it. But the more

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Speaker 2: I see of this, I mean, are you coming?

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Speaker 8: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you starting to wonder whether we're making a mistake

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Speaker 2: allowing school boards to sign off on sums like this,

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Speaker 2: because I'm just starting to I mean, this is not

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Speaker 2: a novel idea. We've talked about this for a while,

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Speaker 2: but I just wonder if this whole setup, if this

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Speaker 2: is showing that this is not the setup that we need.

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Speaker 2: We need some decent, like some proper people in there

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Speaker 2: approving funding, because clearly that's not happening. Fourteen past the Hi.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I have Radio powered

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Speaker 2: Actually I should have said on the subject of the

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Speaker 2: social media and where the ACT will support it, and

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Speaker 2: then also on what the heck we're going to do

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Speaker 2: about these principles and their spending. David Seymore is going

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Speaker 2: to be with us after half past seven. I was

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Speaker 2: also going to talk to us about moldy lunches obviously

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Speaker 2: at seventeen past seven. Now we have a new State

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Speaker 2: of Cancer and New Zealand report out this morning which

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Speaker 2: provides a snapshot of cancer control over the past five years,

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Speaker 2: and there's some good news here, which is that your

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Speaker 2: chance of surviving cancer is now up on what it

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Speaker 2: will twenty years ago. Doctor Chris Jackson is a professor

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Speaker 2: of oncology at the University of Otago in a practicing

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Speaker 2: medical oncologist and with us Hi Chris Jobby Heather. Now,

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Speaker 2: what's that down to our survivability? Is that better diagnosis

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Speaker 2: or better treatment?

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Speaker 21: Well, the thing about cancer is it's not this one disease,

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Speaker 21: it's many. And again with cancer it's not just one thing,

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Speaker 21: it's many as well. So it's better prevention. So fewer

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Speaker 21: New Zealanders are smoking than ever before, which is great,

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Speaker 21: as earlier detection was, better screening programs, so now bow bowl,

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Speaker 21: breast in civial cancer, better treatments which are available, which

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Speaker 21: is fantastic. And so it's really many things along the

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Speaker 21: whole continuum. But saying that the system is better than

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Speaker 21: ever has been, which it is, and saying our survival

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Speaker 21: is better than it ever has been, which it is,

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Speaker 21: is fantastic. But you know, if you're someone who's on

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Speaker 21: a waiting list to be seen by specialists, or if

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Speaker 21: you're waiting on a chest, or if you're someone who's

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Speaker 21: trying to access a new cancer drag. It can still

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Speaker 21: be a pretty frustrating time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if there was one thing that you could change

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Speaker 2: in order to prevent cancer, what would it be.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well the number one twenty percent of all cancers

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Speaker 21: are related to smoking, twenty percent. So do you get

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Speaker 21: really smoking that you would cut the number of cancers

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Speaker 21: by twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: That is understood it, even though the numbers are so

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Speaker 2: small nowadays.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well it's probably gonna certainly there's going down, but

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Speaker 21: those people who've been smoking are still going to be

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Speaker 21: going through the system for a better amount of time.

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Speaker 21: The number the number two cause is a best teap.

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Speaker 21: So New Zealand's what the third most obese country in

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Speaker 21: the world now, I think, And we're seeing a rise

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Speaker 21: in some OBESEI related cancers now also, and I think

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Speaker 21: if we could fix that, there will be the other

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Speaker 21: big thing in terms of prevention. The other key thing,

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Speaker 21: which is a very New Zealand thing, is our love

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Speaker 21: affair with the sun. And as we come into summer months,

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Speaker 21: I think we have to reflect on the old flip

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Speaker 21: slop slapt thing. Australia has done the sun prevention thing

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Speaker 21: better than we have, and our skin cancer rates are

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Speaker 21: now hid in theirs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I suppose, I mean you must, you must

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Speaker 2: be reasonably heartened them by the what the WI GOVI

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Speaker 2: is doing and the possibility that comes off patient next

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Speaker 2: year and we start getting the stuff for cheaper.

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Speaker 21: Ye yes, yes, es I certainly think that that is

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Speaker 21: certainly going to be a big, big factor for a

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Speaker 21: lot of people. But still, you know, it's not really

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Speaker 21: the answer for everyone.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Now, listen, the backlogs and the wait times, as you

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Speaker 2: mentioned before, are creating a headache.

878
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Speaker 3: So what is going on here?

879
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Speaker 2: Is this getting better?

880
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Speaker 3: On?

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Speaker 21: Well, if you look at the numbers of people affected

882
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Speaker 21: by cancer, people reckon that we're going to have about

883
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Speaker 21: a fifty percent increase the numbers affected over the course

884
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Speaker 21: in next fifteen to twenty years. So we're getting older,

885
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 21: and as you get older, the numbers of cancers go

886
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Speaker 21: up and there's more of us, and our system is

887
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 21: not growing at the same pace as there So thirty

888
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Speaker 21: thousand people affected this year and in fifteen years time,

889
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 21: forty five thousand people set it's half as miny again,

890
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 21: which means half as many again skin surgeries, operations, procedures

891
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 21: and the like, And we're just not growing our system

892
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Speaker 21: at the same rate. And there's no doubt that the

893
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Speaker 21: politicians a checking the care that the health system, that's

894
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Speaker 21: for sure, but it's not going up at fifty percent

895
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Speaker 21: over the course the next fifteen years. So there's a

896
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Speaker 21: lot of work to do in terms of making sure

897
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Speaker 21: that we have the system right size.

898
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Thank you so much, Chris appreciated, Doctor Chris Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Professor of Oncology, University of Otago. Here they read the principles.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that's stealing from your employer and as

901
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: far as I'm aware, that's against the law if you

902
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: actually have a look at the coverage. And by the way,

903
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: I've given you one example of a myriad examples out there.

904
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: But the Office of the Order to General does make

905
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: that point. They're like, this does seem to be possibly unlawful,

906
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: and this is unlawful, and that's unlawful. It's not their

907
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Speaker 2: job to chase it up. Someone's got to chase it up.

908
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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to David symore about that. Seven twenty one,

909
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Speaker 2: the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, call it by

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Speaker 1: News Talks EV.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's seven twenty three. Now let's talk about

913
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Speaker 2: this Nicola Willis Ruth Richardson debate. Right, here's a challenge

914
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Speaker 2: to Nikola Willis. Do this debate this year, do it

915
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Speaker 2: next week. And the reason I'm saying that is because

916
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Speaker 2: I'm hearing that, having challenged Ruth Richardson to the debate,

917
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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis's office would now prefer to do it next year.

918
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: And I can understand why I'm in politically that's a

919
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: smart move because by next year, the momentum will be

920
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Speaker 2: gone and we'll all have moved on to other things,

921
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: and probably it will not get as big an audience

922
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: as if she was to do it next week, because

923
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Speaker 2: next week is a very big economic week, isn't it.

924
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: The government's opening its books. Ed looks like Nichola Willis

925
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Speaker 2: might be pushing out surplus again for the second time

926
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Speaker 2: in two years. And then we've got the GDP number,

927
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Speaker 2: and that's coming off the back of the Taxpayer's Union

928
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Speaker 2: campaign calling her out for her big spending, which is

929
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Speaker 2: kicked off today. So next week there were a whole

930
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Speaker 2: lot more energy around a debate and a whole lot

931
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Speaker 2: more interest in what she's got to say for herself. Now,

932
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Speaker 2: if it's pushed out to next year. I would read

933
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Speaker 2: this as the first sign of her losing courage, and

934
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: if I was cynical, which I am, I would read

935
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Speaker 2: it as the first side of them hoping in the

936
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Speaker 2: office that this will just fizzle out and die, because frankly,

937
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: it was a political mistake to challenge Ruth Richardson to

938
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Speaker 2: a debate. Ruth Richardson, for all of her faults, and

939
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Speaker 2: there are many, I would imagine that people think can

940
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Speaker 2: articulate all the problems with Nichola's big spending budgets and

941
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Speaker 2: debt gathering in a way that most members of the

942
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Speaker 2: media nowadays simply can't, which is to say, she will

943
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Speaker 2: mount a case that Nichola is spending too much money

944
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Speaker 2: and is taking us down exactly the same path of

945
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Speaker 2: economic trouble that Grant started us on, which I suspect

946
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Speaker 2: will convince a lot of voters when they sit down

947
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: and have a listen to it, they'll go, oh, yeah,

948
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Speaker 2: maybe we've got a problem here, and we do. We

949
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: have a problem when we have a government that promised

950
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Speaker 2: to cut spending and get us quote back on track,

951
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: and yet spends more money than Grant Robertson ever did,

952
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Which was I watering in and of itself, and this

953
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: government will buy midnext year. Have taken on forty five

954
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of debt, which by then will account

955
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Speaker 2: for almost a quarter of our total debt. That is

956
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: how much debt they're racking up. This is a really

957
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: important debate, by the way, for Labour. Who wants to

958
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: poo poo and call it a flex it is not.

959
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: It is a very important debate because what is more

960
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: important for a government to do well than to run

961
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: the country's box. So next week, how about it?

962
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Speaker 3: Ever, Duper Clan, I'm not.

963
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: The only As Color fan cure to Heather. I'm glad

964
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: to hear that As Color are currently smashing it. I

965
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: was in their Wellington, Cuba Street store the other day.

966
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: The team were brilliant, incredibly friendly and helpful. Twenty five

967
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Speaker 2: percent off for five items at the same at the

968
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Speaker 2: time too. And that's that's like Briscoe's. You know how

969
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Brisco's always has a sale at the weekend. They always

970
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: have twenty five percent off for five items, which I

971
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Speaker 2: also love. May they go from strength to strength. That's

972
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: from John here the As Color in the Westgate shop.

973
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: You get a fantastic view of the highly automated warehouse.

974
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: You can see the product retrieved from four story warehousing

975
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: and then chugging along multiple conveyor belts to the packing

976
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: section and not a human insight. It's fascinating. Worth a visit.

977
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: Imagine it's worth a visit for kids who are interested

978
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Speaker 2: in engineering, which actually, as it transpires, is exactly what's

979
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: going on. I think you might have just found something

980
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: that I'm going to be doing in the next lot

981
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: of school holidays. Now did you catch I'm fascinated by

982
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 2: the story that I caught yesterday about the Wye Cuttle

983
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: officer who was arresting the Numpties who were smearing the

984
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: custard on the Crown jewels in the Tower of London.

985
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: So what happened is this chap, his name is Senior

986
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: Constable Mark Strongman, was just on holiday in the UK

987
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Speaker 2: with his family and he went to the Tower of

988
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Speaker 2: London like you do when you're a tourist, and he

989
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Speaker 2: saw these four people who've now made global headlines. He

990
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: saw them throwing the custard on the display case. So

991
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: he walked up to them. He says, I introduced myself

992
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: informing them that I was arresting them for criminal behavior

993
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: and advising them of their rights, and they waited with them.

994
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 2: They were like, oh yeah, okay, and they waited until

995
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: the met officers arrived. Now immediately I thought when I

996
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: read that, was like, does Mark even have arresting powers

997
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: in the UK? He's a y catto cop. He's not sure.

998
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: He said, he took an oath to the crown, so

999
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: he figured my arrest procedures would stick. How good is that?

1000
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: It's entirely possible that he bluffed the numpties and they

1001
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: fell for it, So jokes on them. David Seymour next

1002
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: used dogs that'd be jee.

1003
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't he the duplessy Allen on

1004
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: the Mike asking breakfast. Were the defender embraced the impossible

1005
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: news togs, they'd.

1006
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: Be you need to meet Mark Cuban, who's going to billionaire?

1007
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: Who's going to be with me after eight o'clock of

1008
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: Dragon's Den and various other things he's done. He's after

1009
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Speaker 2: rates right now. It is twenty three away from eight.

1010
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: So the investigations the Maldi School lunch drama in christ

1011
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: You is completed and raally it's not actually clear what

1012
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: happened here, but the food safety guys still think the

1013
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: most likely problem was food left over at the school

1014
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 2: rather out of the fridge for the weekend. David Seymour

1015
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: is the Associate Ministry of Education Morning David Hey Heather,

1016
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: So what is the most likely thing that they think

1017
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: here has happened.

1018
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 19: They think that at the.

1019
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 13: School there were some meals that had been delivered the

1020
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 13: previous week. They were stored somewhere in the school, probably

1021
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 13: in the cafeteria, and some of those old meals got

1022
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 13: handed out with the new ones that had been delivered

1023
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 13: that day. This is after Food Safety in New Zealand

1024
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 13: have been to the school that have been all over

1025
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Speaker 13: Compass like Kirash and the main thing they notice is

1026
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 13: that on the day that the MOLDI lunches were handed out,

1027
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Speaker 13: there were fifteen other schools that got them, but also

1028
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 13: that there were many other parts of the Hartier Community

1029
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 13: campus where the lunches were handed out and those ones

1030
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 13: were fine. So it seems that it wasn't just one school,

1031
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 13: It was one part of one school where there seemed

1032
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 13: to be some lunches that were different from all the

1033
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 13: other ones that day.

1034
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, how is it though, that we can't prove this

1035
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: is just a guess, right, We can't prove it totally.

1036
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: Is there no paperwork? Is there nothing like this that

1037
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: actually formally records what is going on?

1038
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 13: Well, I guess to really ever be absolutely certain about

1039
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 13: what happened, you'd have to basically have a tracking device

1040
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 13: on every single lunch.

1041
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 18: Now that's not viable, but we do.

1042
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 13: Have a scenario where in order to believe that it

1043
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 13: was anything else, there'd have to be something extraordinary that

1044
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 13: no one else can figure out. Whereas there's a completely

1045
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 13: paucible explanation that the same lunch was served four days earlier.

1046
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 13: This school had had a teacher only day, so hadn't

1047
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 13: had any other lunches delivered, and it had a long

1048
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 13: term practice of having several boxes that were kind of kept.

1049
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 18: Some lunches were put aside.

1050
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 13: In this cafeteria area where students were able to come

1051
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 13: and get extras if they wanted to. Well, the few

1052
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 13: of those turned out to have been there a bit

1053
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 13: longer than they should have been.

1054
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Now listen on the subject of this exact school. I

1055
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: see the school's got a bit of rap of a

1056
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: bit of a rap over the knuckles for spending about

1057
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: close to nineteen thousand dollars for the principal and the

1058
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: senior leadership team to go to Queenstown and there was

1059
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: no clear business purpose. Now what happens here? Are there

1060
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: consequences for this kind of spending?

1061
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 13: Well, the government had a policy several years back before

1062
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 13: the election of giving out these funds to select schools.

1063
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 13: Whether that program continues and how it's managed, I'm sure

1064
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 13: will be up to Erica Stanford. But I think the

1065
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 13: point of this audit is that school communities can decide

1066
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 13: what to make of their processes and management. Remember, we

1067
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 13: have self governing schools through boards of trustees in New Zealand.

1068
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 13: I guess people might start to ask themselves, look this

1069
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 13: whole saga, it was unreasonable to have a principal who

1070
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 13: was out in the media for a week when in reality,

1071
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 13: Food Safety New Zealand completed their assessment within ten days,

1072
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 13: which is lightning speed for most things that happen in government.

1073
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Speaker 13: And if they were just open about what might have

1074
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 13: been the possibility we could have waited till now, we

1075
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 13: could have saved a week of dramas.

1076
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: This whole spending thing has come out because the order

1077
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: to General has had a look at all the like

1078
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of schools. Really, it's not just this school.

1079
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Speaker 2: The thing that occurred to me when I was reading

1080
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: about it and listening to it was that I wonder

1081
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: if the days of boards of trustees running schools actually

1082
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: should be numbered, because we're just asking very ordinary people

1083
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: to approve some reasonable spending. Do you think that it's

1084
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: maybe an outdated idea, Well, there's.

1085
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 13: Long been an argument that that's what the Tomorrow's Schools model.

1086
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 13: It started in nineteen eighty nine. It's got school boards

1087
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Speaker 13: elected from the community running schoo There's a lot of

1088
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 13: communities it actually works fantastically well. It doesn't seem to

1089
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 13: work so well in some communities where they just don't

1090
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Speaker 13: have the people to elect in it. So you know,

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Speaker 13: in a very I guess a high decile area it

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Speaker 13: seems to work quite well, and others it sometimes doesn't.

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Speaker 13: I mean, one reason I push charter schools is it

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Speaker 13: gives you a different model of governance, so you can

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Speaker 13: draw on different people, and that seems to work quite

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Speaker 13: well in a lot of places already. So look, you

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Speaker 13: can have that debate, but all I would say in

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Speaker 13: this particular instance, as I feel for the school community,

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Speaker 13: I feel for the students because frankly, you know, this

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Speaker 13: is an example where it would have been easier if

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Speaker 13: everyone just took a breath, said Okay, where did these

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Speaker 13: lunches come from? Keep an open mind, whereas I've had

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Speaker 13: to spend a week responding in the media to what

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Speaker 13: happened to twenty lunches.

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Speaker 2: Would you consider supporting any kind of social media ban

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Speaker 2: or restriction for under sixteens if it works an Aussie?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and I think the right thing to do is

1108
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 13: to watch what happens in Australia. There are really good

1109
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 13: reasons to think that it may not work. I mean,

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00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 13: one obvious one is what if kids end up doing

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00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 13: other stuff on the internet that could be worse than

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Speaker 13: these platforms that are being banned, or they sneak on

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00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 13: with VPNs and suddenly they're unwilling to talk to adults

1114
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 13: about what they're experiencing because they think they're doing something naughty.

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Speaker 13: That's something that you should keep in mind. I think

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00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 13: that parents overwhelmingly are distressed and want someone to be

1117
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 13: on their side and this battle to be safe online,

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00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 13: but a blunt tool that could make it worse is

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 13: not doing them a service.

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Speaker 18: It's doing them and especially the children are disserviced.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, wasn't David, Thanks very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: That's David Seymour, Associate Minister of Education. Seventeen away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Hi here that to use a high performance racing car analogy,

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Speaker 2: Nicholas challenge will be to demonstrate that grant spending on

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Speaker 2: the car was on fluffy dice and around the door

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Speaker 2: whilst the tires and the engine were being ignored. She

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Speaker 2: has to convince us that the money she is spending

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Speaker 2: is on fixing those tires and servicing that engine so

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Speaker 2: that the race car goes faster and starts winning races.

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Speaker 2: It's not always about how much you spend, it's about

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Speaker 2: where you spend it and what the return is on

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Speaker 2: your expenditure. Should be a really interesting debate, Tony. I

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Speaker 2: agree with you and thank you for that. Thirteen away

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Speaker 2: from eight. So yesterday I tried the chat GPT for

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00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: shopping as a shopping assistant, because this is apparently a

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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: thing that everybody's doing at the moment. I don't know

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00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: if you're aware of this, and I was reading, I'm

1140
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: basically telling you this to warn you off it. I

1141
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: was reading The Economist yesterday and it had an article

1142
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Speaker 2: and it was raving about how getting AI to do

1143
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: your shopping is all the cool new things Christmas, and

1144
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: it's like the second biggest thing that people use AI

1145
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: for and it's just on the increase, blah blah blah whatever.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, Okay, well i'll give it. I'll give

1147
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: it a bit of a hone. And where it becomes

1148
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: really valuable is not in doing the stuff that you

1149
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Speaker 2: could just do for yourself, but in finding you the

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Speaker 2: cheapest or finding you the one that will get to

1151
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Speaker 2: you by next Wednesday or whatever. So I need to

1152
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: buy my brother a present, so I decided, I don't

1153
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: care if he knows this. I decided to get him

1154
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Speaker 2: a golf shirt for Christmas. So I went to the

1155
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Speaker 2: chat GPT and I typed into the chat GPT find

1156
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Speaker 2: me a golf shirt size large that will arrive by

1157
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Speaker 2: my house by next Wednesday. The first one, it suggested

1158
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: fantastic price, so obviously went for the cheap one. First

1159
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: one would arrive shipping date New Year's Day, so I

1160
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: was like, you missed a crucial part. They mate, so

1161
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Speaker 2: I started again. The second shirt it recommended to me

1162
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Speaker 2: had all the sizes, but it didn't have large, so

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00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: again it felt so In the end, what I did

1164
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: is I just I just gave up on it and

1165
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: I went to golf wear house and I bought a shirt,

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Speaker 2: which is what I was going to do anyway. So

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Speaker 2: all I ended up doing was just wasting my time

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Speaker 2: with the chat GPT, which is you know it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to save the time. Anyway. I cannot tell you, like

1170
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Speaker 2: something must be going wrong for me, because I would

1171
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: say that the economists stats would be the right ones, right,

1172
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: which is that it's like the second biggest use of AI.

1173
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Speaker 2: I don't know what is going wrong for me. I'm

1174
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Speaker 2: starting to think it may in fact be the chat

1175
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Speaker 2: GPT that I'm using, because if I don't know, if

1176
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: you use it, if you've read about it, it seems

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Speaker 2: to be getting dumber and dumber by the minute, and

1178
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Speaker 2: so you know, it's basically at human levels. Now I'm

1179
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: less like me talking to myself on chat GPT, so

1180
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Speaker 2: it's getting dumber. So I think it's the problem. I think, actually,

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Speaker 2: if I was to use something else. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe I do.

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Speaker 18: They make the free one dumber, so people pay for the.

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Speaker 2: Opus and I'm using the free one. But that doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like a fantastic business model because there are other

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00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: free ones like Gemini, Google, which I'm just going to

1187
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Speaker 2: go to instead of paying. Right, So anyway, we'll see

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Speaker 2: how this only if you I don't know, if you've

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Speaker 2: tried it out, let me know how, because it might

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Speaker 2: it might be user error on my partner that I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I said to it gets to me by Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't say where I am who knows, just

1193
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: assumed it hither. Our son's partner is an Auckland policewoman

1194
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Speaker 2: who's on leave on her oe in London, and she

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Speaker 2: apprehended an offender and put him in a headlock until

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Speaker 2: the local police were there and caught up on him. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was instinct and training that took over.

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Speaker 2: And then she received a commendation from the London met

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Speaker 2: So that you go not the It just seems like

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Speaker 2: all our going over there are doing there because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of crime in the UK, by the way,

1202
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Speaker 2: so there's plenty for them to help out with eleven

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Speaker 2: Away from eight, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Dupa d Allen fon the My Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: real estate news.

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Speaker 3: Dog zib heither.

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Speaker 2: I just asked chat GPT, who's the number one news

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Speaker 2: tog ZB host, and it said you, what did I

1209
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: tell you? It's literally getting dumber by the minute. Seven

1210
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Speaker 2: away from eight. Now it is not hard to be

1211
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Speaker 2: impressed with Zespre's ongoing innovation. Eight and they've got more

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Speaker 2: even to tell you about. They're now going to start

1213
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Speaker 2: selling a new type of red Kiwi fruit to capitalize

1214
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Speaker 2: on the success of the existing one. And Jason to

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Speaker 2: break is the CEO of Zespri and with us morning, Jason.

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Speaker 19: Good morning, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Now, it sounds like the

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: difference with the Red eighty, which is the new one,

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00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: is that it harvests later than the Red nineteen, so

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Speaker 2: you can extend the selling window. Is that basically it?

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's right. I mean, so we're seeing your harvest later,

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Speaker 19: so we get a longer time that we've got product

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Speaker 19: available for our consumers in the market. Also, it's got

1224
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 19: a larger sized profile, so that's a bigger piece of

1225
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 19: fruit as well, which our consumers are asking for. So

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Speaker 19: there's some benefits of it, and it supports our existing

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Speaker 19: red category as well.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that the red doesn't keep very long?

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Speaker 2: Which is really the problem you're trying to solve.

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Speaker 19: It's just a natural part of the throat, you know,

1231
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 19: it's a short shelf life product, similar to what we

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Speaker 19: have with berries. But ultimately what we're looking at is how,

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 19: through either breeding but also new innovation, we can make

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Speaker 19: sure we get a longer period where that fruits in

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Speaker 19: front of our consumers.

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00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: And so when do you expect this is going to

1237
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: hit the market.

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00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 19: We will release license to growers through the course of

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 19: next year and it's likely to be another couple of

1240
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Speaker 19: years after that, so you're talking about twenty twenty eight

1241
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Speaker 19: before we have our first crop available to complement our

1242
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Speaker 19: existing red variety.

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Speaker 2: Now, when listen, Jason, I have never ever seen a

1244
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: red variety on the supermarket sheldon And in this country,

1245
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: and it is entirely possible. It's just where I'm shopping.

1246
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: But is it ever going to become and if it is,

1247
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: when is it going to become kind of a normal

1248
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: thing in New Zealand.

1249
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, we do sell it in the New Yand and

1250
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 19: actually a reasonable amount of fruit gets sold in New

1251
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 19: Zealand for that it's a short product, so you're basically

1252
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 19: looking around that late February early March fruit to sort

1253
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 19: of the beginning of May. It's quite popular so often

1254
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 19: it gets picked up pretty quickly and taken home. So look,

1255
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 19: we're trying to grow more volume and it's part of

1256
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 19: this decision as well as to have more volume come on,

1257
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 19: so we've got more fruit available for consumers in New Zealand,

1258
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 19: but also around the world.

1259
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Speaker 2: Jason Glenn's been complaining he can't find actually any kiwi

1260
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: fruit at the moment. What's going on.

1261
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 19: It's one of these things with a perishable product. Eventually

1262
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 19: it runs out of time. So we harvest in March.

1263
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 19: That fruit usually last till about November December, and then

1264
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 19: we have to wait till the beginning of the next

1265
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 19: season in March again. So there is a small period

1266
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 19: of time here where we just don't have fruit available

1267
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 19: because it's out of season.

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Speaker 2: What do we replace it with? Jason, I mean, it's

1269
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: the thing that helps you with your mood, It's the

1270
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: thing that helps you with your pooh. It's the thing

1271
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: that helps you with your sleep, So is there anything else?

1272
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: What do you replace it with?

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00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 19: Well, so what we're doing is actually looking how we

1274
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 19: try and extend that for longer. So we are looking

1275
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 19: at how we can breed fruit that will last longer.

1276
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 19: We're looking at how we can have innovation that will

1277
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 19: allow us to store that fruit for longer. We're trying

1278
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 19: to tackle this problem for people around the world as actually,

1279
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 19: how do we get kiwi fruit available every single day

1280
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 19: of the year. So we're working on that and that's

1281
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 19: also where we're growing offshore as well to try and

1282
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 19: help our consumers around the world.

1283
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliantly, really please to hear it, Jason, look after yourself,

1284
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: have a good day. That's Jason to break the zespre

1285
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: Ceo loving zespri At the moment, hither you and chat

1286
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: GPT must be like dumb and dumber. That's what I

1287
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: was saying. There's not much help if you're operating at

1288
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: my level. Lord, Hither I always have and here's the tip. Okay,

1289
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: this is what you need to do. This I think

1290
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: might solve the problem. I always have to tell chat

1291
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: GPT twice that it's not trying hard enough. Once I've

1292
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: done that, it becomes really awesome. It's essentially to save money.

1293
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: The first few results are basically just to Google, and

1294
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: once it realized as it actually needs to kick its

1295
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: proper brain into gear, then you're good. And this is

1296
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: from somebody who actually pays for the products of there

1297
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: you go, try doing that. I'm going to try it.

1298
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 18: I have noticed that that, like on the Jim and

1299
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 18: I one at the bottom of it, it says, you know,

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Speaker 18: do a deeper dive on that, and I always think,

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Speaker 18: why didn't you just do that right from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is go.

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Speaker 18: Let's go pretty deep straight on and take it from there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'd like to see quantified is how

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Speaker 2: many trees I'm killing every single time I do it? Like,

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Speaker 2: how much of the planet am I ruining? Because maybe

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Speaker 2: that's why we're not doing a deeper dive straight up now,

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Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, I'm not going to lie to you. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna want to marry him because this guy is like

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Speaker 2: I want to marry him, and I'm married. He is charming,

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Speaker 2: he is wonderful. If somebody pointed out to me, it's

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Speaker 2: not what's it called shark Tank, It's not Dragon's Den,

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Speaker 2: it's the other one. It's the Shark Tank that he

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Speaker 2: was on. But do you know what we've been talking

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we've been talking about rugby in

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Speaker 2: this country and how boring it is and how rubbish

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Speaker 2: it is, and how sport's not making money. So I

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Speaker 2: think we've got to ask him, because he turned the

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Speaker 2: Mavericks around the basketball team amazingly, ask him what he

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Speaker 2: thinks we could do here. News Talks hed B's with

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Speaker 2: us next under the Middle.

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Speaker 1: Mission Opinionated, informed, unapologetic. Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mike

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Cept pass state. Let me introduce you to Mark Cuban,

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01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: the US billionaire businessman has his hands in all sorts

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Speaker 2: of pies, tech, media, health, insurance, the NBA, and more

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Speaker 2: recently politics now. He got his first major start with

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Speaker 2: the media company Broadcast dot Com, that he sold to

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Speaker 2: Yahoo for five point seven billion US dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: stock in nineteen ninety nine. The next year, he'd get

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Speaker 2: into the NBA bought the Dallas Mavericks for two hundred

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: and eighty mil USD sold a majority stake of the

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Speaker 2: team late twenty twenty three for three point five billion,

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Speaker 2: and he's been one of the faces of Sharks to

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Speaker 2: a Shark tank for more than a decade, and when

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Speaker 2: the Dems were struggling for identity after the Trump domination,

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Speaker 2: he was touted as a potential front runner for them,

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Speaker 2: but he's ruled out a run for twenty twenty eight. Now,

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Speaker 2: Mark cubans with us. Mike, it's great to have you

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Speaker 2: on the show.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my pleasure, Heather, But I got to show you

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Speaker 6: what I'm wearing.

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: Got to represent lovely all Black's jusey. Where'd you get

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Speaker 2: your hands on that?

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Speaker 6: I forgot where I got. I've been a rugby player

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 6: fan since I've been eighteen years old, so I've got

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Speaker 6: a little collection of jerseys from all over the place. Mike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look you are you are actually something of that,

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Speaker 2: not just an ordinary fan, You something of an authority

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Speaker 2: on sports. So give me your take on rugby, because

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Speaker 2: we have been discussing this on the show this week.

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Speaker 2: Is rugby boring?

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Speaker 6: No? Fifteenth? No, No, are you kidding me? I love

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Speaker 6: after basketball, It's my second favorite sport. I love fifteens

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Speaker 6: Stevens can be a little bit boring, right because it's

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Speaker 6: a bunch of little guys just running around all the time.

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Speaker 6: Like rugby to me, you gotta have impact, you gotta

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Speaker 6: have scrums, you got it? Like, yeah, I mean, Devin,

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Speaker 6: I'm not as big a fan of because I was

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Speaker 6: never fit enough to be good at it, But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I love fifteens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. I find that fascinating because the debate

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Speaker 2: that we're having at the moments in New Zealand, and

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Speaker 2: I suppose in a lot of rugby countries, is actually

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Speaker 2: that rugby league is this wonderful and fast spectacle, whether

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Speaker 2: whereas rugby is so slow down by the rules and

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Speaker 2: yet thumbs down from.

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Speaker 6: You yeah Union all the way, Like what do they

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Speaker 6: like about league that they think is better?

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Speaker 2: It's faster, whereas you know, it's a much more free

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Speaker 2: flowing game, whereas rugby is really defensive, right, it's not

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Speaker 2: in attacking game. So you get the ball and you

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Speaker 2: go into a scrumming and you get down onto the ground.

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Speaker 6: No, I can see that. I can see that. But

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Speaker 6: I guess league reminds me too much of football where

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Speaker 6: you stop and then go and then you know th

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Speaker 6: American football.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then I need to borrow your brain for this,

1380
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: because you famously turned around the Dallas Mavericks when you

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Speaker 2: bought it.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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Speaker 2: So rugby is in a really difficult, precarious position where

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Speaker 2: it's just not making money. What would you do to

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Speaker 2: save it?

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Speaker 6: It's hard, right, I mean in the US it's it's

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Speaker 6: a mess. But you know, I don't know, honestly, I

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 6: don't know the economics of rugby in New Zealand or

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Speaker 6: Australia were some of the bigger, the bigger rugby countries.

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Speaker 6: But it's you've got to make it more fun, not

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 6: so much on the on the pitch, right, but in

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Speaker 6: the in the stands, because most people like it was

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Speaker 6: the same way with basketball. When I got to the MAVs,

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Speaker 6: the people that were at the NBA thought it was

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01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 6: all about basketball, squeaking, sneakers, you know who had the

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Speaker 6: purest jump shots. But I was like, you don't even

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Speaker 6: remember the score of the last game you went to.

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 6: You know, you remember who you were with, you remember

1399
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Speaker 6: your buddy that got drunk, you remember the first date.

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Speaker 6: And I think rugby is fun, but it's not. It's

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 6: not as much a spectacle when you go to go

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Speaker 6: to a match, right, you know it's outdoors and it's

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 6: just a just a different environment now, you know, like

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Speaker 6: soccer football. You know you get the singing and the

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 6: fandom and all that. But you know, but that's the

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01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 6: way it is all the time. It's pretty much the

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Speaker 6: same all the time in my experiences. Right, You've got

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Speaker 6: to make it different otherwise you just get the purists

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Speaker 6: that have been going for fifty years that don't want

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Speaker 6: to see it changed. And that's what happened to basketball,

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 6: where nobody wanted to change. The same thing happened with

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Speaker 6: American baseball, which is boring as shit, right, but they

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 6: sped it up and it made it so it's more

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 6: of a party in going to the game, so it

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Speaker 6: was quicker. You know, there's nothing wrong with changing the

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Speaker 6: rules in rugby two right to make it quicker, to

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Speaker 6: turn things around.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: You know they went through where you can lift, like

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01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 6: when I played the way back when you couldn't lift

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 6: somebody in the line out. They make changes, right they

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Speaker 6: you know, substitutions you couldn't substitute. You know, we've changed

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01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: the game before. You need to change it to make

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 6: it quicker. But you also need to make the environment

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 6: where fans are going not repetitive all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we Americans look at soccer and rugby overseas and say

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01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 6: wow that you know, the commitment to the team is incredible.

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Speaker 6: But as an entrepreneur, I look in and say, it's

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: the same shit every game. Yeah, you know, maybe somebody

1430
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 6: gets a little drunker and changes the words to a song,

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01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 6: or maybe a bunch of crazies come up with something

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 6: a little bit different, but that's not organized from from

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Speaker 6: the whole squad.

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Speaker 2: So Mike you, I mean you've just basically hit all

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01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: the complaints right You've nailed all of the problems right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean you've literally explained how to fix. It's like

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01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: you're in my head. So when you finished with whatever

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: it is that you're doing at the moment in America,

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Speaker 2: can you just come over here and run rugby if

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Speaker 2: you don't mind.

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Speaker 6: I wish I could figure out American rugby because I

1442
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 6: love the sport, but it's tough.

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: Listen, hang on a tech mark. I want to take

1444
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: a break, but I want to come back and talk

1445
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: to you about politics.

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Speaker 1: Twelve past eight, The mic Husking Breakfast full show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, call it by News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's quarter past back with Mark Cuban. Mark, tell

1449
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: me the thing. The latest thing I see popping up

1450
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: from you is that you guys are trying to get

1451
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: Trump to cut Yeah, bit of a bit of a

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01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: break on the drug fees. How's it going.

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Speaker 6: It's going great. I mean, you know, it's not like

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01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 6: you know, New Zealand and most other countries we like

1455
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 6: in the United States, when you go to go to

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Speaker 6: a doctor and you get a prescription for a drug,

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: the only question they really asked you is what pharmacy

1458
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 6: do you use? You have no idea what it costs,

1459
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 6: and you know, you have no idea what you're going

1460
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 6: to pay. And so we changed. We created this company

1461
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Speaker 6: called costplus Drugs dot Com so that when you go

1462
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 6: to this website, you know exactly what you're going to

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 6: pay for your medications. And just doing that was a

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Speaker 6: game changer for the entire country. So that's been going great.

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Speaker 6: We were up into the right, you know, and so

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Speaker 6: people we keep on growing every single day.

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Speaker 2: And so how are you finding I mean, you basically

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Speaker 2: need Donald Trump to cut the fees right, the drug

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Speaker 2: manufacturing fees.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah, for us to grow bigger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I mean let's say that he did it.

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Speaker 2: Let's say that you actually managed to stop manufacturing when

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01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: these drugs come off Payton. Is that actually a viable

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01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: thing to do in the States? Like, can you really

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Speaker 2: fulfill this?

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 20: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Do you think I would start a business that wouldn't

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Speaker 6: be viable?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that Donald Trump would come up

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: with an idea like that would totally be beat shit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a whole nother conversation, right, But yeah,

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 6: we're we've got new We've got ways that we can

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 6: make drugs using AI and robotics that have cut the

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01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 6: costs dramatically, and so we can get there and save

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Speaker 6: a lot a lot of people a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: But it takes a little help because of all the

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Speaker 6: fees they charge.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Mike, give me you will take on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: What's he up to? Is he just there to make money?

1491
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 8: Maybe?

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would argue with that. I've known him for

1493
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 6: twenty five years and he's always been this way, right.

1494
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's a business guy that just wants to

1495
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 6: make as much money as he can, and that's just

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01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 6: never changed when he got in office. You know, there's

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01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 6: some things that are good and somethings that are bad,

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 6: like anybody, but that's him. It's all about the dollars.

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Speaker 2: Now, I see you, fluis it a little bit with

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Speaker 2: getting into politics? Why did you decide not to do it?

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Speaker 6: Because I'm not an idiot and I'm not an asshole,

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: and you know, I just think it. An entrepreneur, I

1503
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 6: can do more by starting companies that have an impact,

1504
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 6: like costplus Drugs. You know, I truly think I could

1505
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 6: change American health care and that's a better mission for me.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not the political type. I just don't have

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 6: the patience, you know, and plus like I'd rather sing

1508
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 6: rugby songs after a match and do stupid shit and

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 6: you know, and not have you can't do that and

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Speaker 6: be a politician.

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Speaker 2: So You've had a little bit to do with both

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: the Republicans and the Democrats, and I mean you even

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,959
Speaker 2: toyed with bang an Independent for a bit. The impression

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: that I got from you is that you just found

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: them all really profoundly disappointing on both sides.

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Speaker 17: Is that fair?

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, for sure. I mean, if it were up

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 6: to me, I'd get rid of both parties in the

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01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 6: United States, I'm an independent. I think for myself, it

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 6: really depends on each individual issue. I'm not gonna, you know, prejudge.

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01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say, well, I'm a Republican. I got

1522
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 6: to think this way or that way. I just you know,

1523
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 6: I'm an entrepreneur. I just look at things. That's you know,

1524
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 6: can we solve this problem or can we not?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you business head on, and I suppose just

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: your life head on as well. AI obviously a game change,

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: but how much of a game change do you think.

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 6: More than you think? More so than you think from

1529
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 6: a business perspective, whether you're in New Zealand or the States,

1530
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 6: there's going to be two types of companies, those who

1531
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 6: are great at AI and those who went out of

1532
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 6: business because they didn't do shit with AI. That's how

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 6: big an impact it's going to be. And for kids,

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01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 6: it's a great democratizer for education and really not just

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 6: for kids, for everybody. Like three years ago before it

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 6: started becoming popular, like you would go to Google and

1537
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 6: your search engine and you put something in and you'd

1538
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 6: see fifteen links and you'd have to figure out which

1539
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 6: ones are real and which ones are bullshit and go

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 6: through that right with AI. It kind of goes through

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 6: them all for you and saves you all that time,

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01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 6: which is like having access to all the world's greatest libraries,

1543
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 6: every professor, every expert. And that doesn't mean it's going

1544
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 6: to be right every time, because even the experts are wrong,

1545
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 6: but it allows you because there's more than one. You

1546
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 6: can go into chat cheapt, you can go into Perplexity,

1547
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 6: you can go into Claude, you can go into Grok,

1548
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 6: you can go into Gemini and get feedback from each

1549
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 6: one of them, which is like getting feedback from a

1550
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 6: bunch of experts and then make your own decisions, you know.

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01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 6: I think if it's if for any kid, adult, whoever

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 6: that's curious, it's like incredible. I love it, right, I

1553
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 6: use it, you know. And in business it's like so

1554
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 6: it's like you can ask a question. It's weird sometimes

1555
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 6: because I ask you a question that I normally won't

1556
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 6: ask anybody, but like I'm like, shit, why not ask it?

1557
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 6: And it comes back with good answers like I had.

1558
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 6: I was talking to all these politicians in the US

1559
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 6: right and it was the governor's meeting all the fifty states,

1560
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 6: and they changed what they wanted to talk to me

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 6: about it last minute while I was in the green room,

1562
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 6: where they said, okay, we also want you to talk

1563
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 6: about AI for school kids. Right, I'm like, I didn't

1564
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 6: know shit about AI for school kids. So I go

1565
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 6: into chat cheap, give me your ten best ideas of

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 6: using artificial intelligence for kids from you know, five years

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01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 6: old to eighteen years old. And they gave me these

1568
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 6: phenomenal ideas, just phenomenal. I went and I just spit

1569
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 6: them out, and everybody thought I was smart. You know,

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 6: it was great, even though I didn't know what the

1571
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 6: hell I was talking about ten minutes before. You know,

1572
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 6: you can get information now. It doesn't mean it's perfect.

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 6: It's going to hallucinate and make mistakes, but you have

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 6: that ability to ask the same question of more than

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01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 6: one to compare the output. So I'm a huge fan

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Speaker 6: of AI.

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Speaker 2: Oh brilliant. Listen, Mike. I'm just clean out of time now.

1578
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Speaker 2: But it's been such a bloody delight to talk to you,

1579
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Speaker 2: and you filled my cup with optimism for the world.

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Speaker 6: So thank you, thank you. I really appreciate it. And

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Speaker 6: you know, I got a root for the Eagles, but

1582
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Speaker 6: you know my second favorite team, the All Blacks.

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Speaker 2: All good on ye, Hey, you have yourself a lovely day,

1584
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Speaker 2: and thank you again for your time. That is Mike Cuban.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you called it a fan of

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Speaker 2: I don't care how or on what capacity we need

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Speaker 2: his drive and optimism. Cheers Rod here. That can you

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Speaker 2: ask Mark if he can come and fix the New Zealand? Lol?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what though? I mean? I feel like

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Speaker 2: the man that he feels like the kind of guy

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Speaker 2: who you could get to fix just about anything, like

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Speaker 2: the infrastructure problems in this country can come and fix

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. He can come and fix transpower, he

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Speaker 2: can cut to everything energy, just everything here, the get

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Speaker 2: in line. I'm going to marry him first. We'll have

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Speaker 2: a fight about that. And apparently he's bang on with

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Speaker 2: he's bang on with the rugby. Just what we need

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Speaker 2: is more fun. Do you remember the rugby sevens? Everybody

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Speaker 2: loved it, everybody went along. It was super fun and

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Speaker 2: then of course too much fun, so we shut it down.

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Speaker 2: The Fed, by the way, if you haven't caught the news,

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Speaker 2: the Fed has cut the rate twenty five basis point

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Speaker 2: has sort of indicated that this may be the end.

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Speaker 2: There's a reluctance to ease any further. I'm sure that'll

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Speaker 2: get get upicked throughout the day here on news talk

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Speaker 2: zed Beat. Now it appears that there is a fight

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Speaker 2: that is brewing about conservation land. This has kind of

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: been signaled for a little while now that the government's

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Speaker 2: going to offload a whole bunch of conserve land. It's

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Speaker 2: really more Stewardshipland, which is on the West coast, which

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Speaker 2: has been Stewartshipland. Is a funny little thing because it's

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Speaker 2: been in there for a little while since the Conservation

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Speaker 2: Department was set up in nineteen eighty seven. No one's

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Speaker 2: really known what to do with it, so it's just

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Speaker 2: kind of sat there. So today Tama Putuck are the

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Speaker 2: Conservation Minister is going to announce that he's getting he's

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Speaker 2: going to tidy this up. Eighty percent is going to

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Speaker 2: be added to National park or conservation parks. Other parcels, though,

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Speaker 2: are going to be disposed of, like you know, sold,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming sold. Some of it's got a lot of

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Speaker 2: mining potential, but some of it's going to be transferred

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Speaker 2: to EWE and a portion has been allocated in Lake

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Speaker 2: Tahoo and this is upset New Zealand first because they

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Speaker 2: don't like the idea of just giving a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of land in Night Tahoo. Because of that, Tama Pautuck

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Speaker 2: is basically going to try to get around the full

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Speaker 2: cabinet process, so he doesn't want to have a fight

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Speaker 2: with him. He doesn't want to have them stop this,

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Speaker 2: so he's going to go via Ordering Council, which is

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: very muldooney and that's made Winnip even more angry as

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Speaker 2: you can imagine. We're off to the UK next broad

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Speaker 2: Little News tog.

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Speaker 1: Zby Credible compelling The breakfast show You Can't Best It's

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Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a

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Speaker 2: Be the surcharge ban. If you were hoping for the

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Speaker 2: surcharge ban, I have got some bad news for you.

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Speaker 2: It looks like it might not happen. I personally, I

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Speaker 2: am happy about this because the surcharge band was never

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Speaker 2: going to do the thing that we thought it was

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Speaker 2: going to do, which will save us money. It was

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Speaker 2: just going to bury that that surcharge in the price

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Speaker 2: of the thing that you're trying to buy. But it

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Speaker 2: looks like ACT may not vote for it in its

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Speaker 2: current form, which is just a blanket ban because the

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Speaker 2: Consumer Affairs spokesperson Dr Palmje Palmer was asked about this

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Speaker 2: and said the bill will have its next reading in

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Speaker 2: the new year and maybe the government should consider the

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: feedback because she sort of which is a hint I suppose,

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: but also new development because we kind of knew that

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: about it about ACTS. But the new development is that

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Speaker 2: New Zealand First is now noticing noting the concern raised

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Speaker 2: by businesses and retailers, so might not get that searcharge

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Speaker 2: ban after all. Twenty two away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine international correspondents with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: You k correspondent Rod Little as it us.

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Speaker 17: Hi, Hi Rod, Hey, good morning. How you do it?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. And it looks like the

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Speaker 2: junior doctor strike might be averted.

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Speaker 17: Well it might be yes, by I think of the

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Speaker 17: fact that the government will give in to them. The

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Speaker 17: junior doctors, or as they're now known, resident doctors, and

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Speaker 17: they're just doctors basically who work in hospitals, have been

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Speaker 17: looking for a thirty percent pay rise, as have I incidentally, Heather,

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Speaker 17: but with no luck whatsoever from anybody. But in the

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Speaker 17: public sector you could ask for that, and who knows,

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Speaker 17: you might well get it. They've already been given pay rises,

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Speaker 17: but they've been asking for thirty percent and said if

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Speaker 17: they're not, they're going to have a five day strike

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Speaker 17: right in the middle of the busiest and most crucial

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Speaker 17: time for their health service of the year, which is

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Speaker 17: round about Christmas. Now where Streeting has said that he

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Speaker 17: has improved and offer to resident doctors. We're going to

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Speaker 17: increase the number of places for early career that early

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Speaker 17: career doctors could apply to, and they're going to be

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Speaker 17: given preference overseas doctors. And there will also, as you

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01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 17: would guess, be some shifting in the pay skills. So

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Speaker 17: if they do manage to avert this strike, that is

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Speaker 17: undoubtedly a good thing for the government. What it may

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Speaker 17: do further down the line is set a benchmark on

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Speaker 17: pay deals which the government is going to have to

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Speaker 17: follow or face more and more trouble.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if they thought this through with the

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Speaker 2: prioritizing of the UK doctors, because apparently there's this intense

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Speaker 2: competition for these roles that promote them up.

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Speaker 14: But if you.

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Speaker 2: Prioritize the UK doctors over foreign doctors, it makes the

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Speaker 2: whole thing's appealing for a foreign doctor to come and

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Speaker 2: that's what you people needed the in ages.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think that's absolutely true. And your suggestion is

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Speaker 17: have they thought it through. I wouldn't have thought so

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Speaker 17: for a moment. It's something which plays a lot to

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Speaker 17: the gallery here, which is prioritizing British workers over overseas

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Speaker 17: workers when in the long run we do have to

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Speaker 17: do that. But you know, if it leads to a

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Speaker 17: crisis in the health service with people from India, Singapore

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Speaker 17: and South Korea not coming here as they used to do,

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Speaker 17: then that would be a problem.

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I'd imagine. So now Sharon Davies Peer.

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Speaker 17: Now yeah, renominated disappear in this year's list. She will

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01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 17: take up her role next August. She's a swimmer. She

1728
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 17: won a silver medal in nineteen eighty at the I

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 17: think the Moscow Olympics, wasn't it nineteen eighty and as

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 17: one of various Commonwealth medals. But really her honor has

1731
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 17: come as the consequence of being a doubty fighter, as

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 17: a gender critical feminist protecting women's spaces in sport. And

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 17: this is what I think is interesting. I mean, she

1734
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 17: has undoubtedly taken an awful, one of the most hideous

1735
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 17: abuse from the more extreme wings of the trans lobby,

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Speaker 17: and she has fought for her corner four years. I

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 17: don't think she would have been made a baroness four

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 17: years ago. You know, I think time time has really shifted,

1739
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 17: that the mood has shifted on this issue, and the

1740
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 17: idea that the most vocal, with the possible exception of

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01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 17: JK Rowling, the most vocal objection to trans ideology from

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01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 17: a woman, could be elevated to the House of Lords

1743
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 17: is quite remarkable this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a point that you made

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: earlier this week, and I think you bang on, Rod,

1746
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Enjoy yourself. That's Rod Littlaure UK correspondent.

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Speaker 2: It is quite remarkable, don't you think how the debate

1748
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: on trans issues has shifted, as Rod says, just in

1749
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: the last few years with the Cast report and even

1750
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: even you know, our government moving on banning the old

1751
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: what are their puberty blockers for the kids. I've got

1752
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces of retail news for you. So

1753
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: the first one is, Lord, did we fizz for the Ike?

1754
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: Like we have bought so much Ike? We've actually overwhelmed them.

1755
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: So they say they cannot actually keep up with the orders.

1756
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: Their operations now are taking longer than anticipated to meet

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01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: the orders. They're learning quickly and adapting the operations to

1758
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: meet this incredible level of demand. And if you have

1759
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: placed an order, they're going to sort it out in

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: the next few days, so hopefully before Christmas, if you

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: need it before Christmas, although I mean, who buys a

1762
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: bookshelf right for someone for Christmas? It's probably just for you.

1763
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: The other one is faradays now, I don't know if

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: you've kept across this well, I'm getting really pumped about.

1765
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't even like going to a department store necessarily

1766
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: as slightly overwhelming, but I'm getting really pumped about this thing.

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: This is the one that's opening at one three to

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: one Queen Street, which is an Auckland which is a

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01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: heritage listed building. So it's a beautiful building. And they've

1770
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: released some of the concepts of what they're going to

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: do and then a couple of pictures of what the

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01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: design is going to look like because the construction has

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: started and it looks great. So they're going to have

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01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: the luxury and the local goods. They're going to have

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01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: a peril home where beauty instare, dining, valet parking, regular

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: store events, activations. The central feature is going to be

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: something like a like a spiral staircase, which is you know,

1778
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: a bit bougie and spending a bit of dollars on this,

1779
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: isn't it. What they're doing is that kind of that.

1780
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: They've got the architects doing it. The architects are trying

1781
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: to take the heritage idea and then put it into

1782
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: it like a bit of a modern a modern vibe.

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: But when you I mean, the question that I asked

1784
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: when I first heard that this was opening was well,

1785
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 2: why are you opening on Queen Street when there have

1786
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: been There was was Smith and Coe's you know, didn't

1787
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: work on Queen Street and the ennul bunch of department

1788
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: stores have closed down. Is this a smart idea? But

1789
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: it seems that what they're going to do differently is

1790
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: give you attention. It's going to be customer service. Is

1791
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: that that's what they think is missing in all the

1792
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 2: other departments by the looks of things. So the minute

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: you walk in with your bulging pockets and your Louis

1794
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: Verton bag full of dollars that you're not waiting around

1795
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: that the Hello.

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 18: Are they going to have a greet? I like it

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01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 18: at the Disney Store.

1798
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be exactly like the Disney Store,

1799
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: very very similar. Yeah, what do you want? Where can

1800
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: I take you?

1801
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 12: What can you?

1802
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: Probably even have a personal assistant? And this is this,

1803
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean think about this, all right, You and I

1804
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: can just walk into as color, go wear the white

1805
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 2: T shirt, Go get them sorted like mediums and whatever.

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01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 6: Buy it.

1807
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: But if you've got loads of dollars that you're ready

1808
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 2: to drop, I mean, you want to be treated like

1809
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: a king and a queen. And that's what they're going

1810
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: to do. Immediate service.

1811
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 18: So I'm punpihed like your AI shopping assistant, except real

1812
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 18: and better has come gone from full circle.

1813
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 2: That's right, thank you, Glenn sixteen away from Nome.

1814
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1815
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: By News Talks.

1816
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: That'd be gosh, this is such a good suggestion. I

1817
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 2: can't believe no one's thought of this at the school

1818
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: lunch level. Heather. If you want to solve the problem

1819
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: with the moldy school lunches, why don't we just put

1820
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 2: a date on the school lunches. It's simple, Allan, you

1821
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: should be running the school lunches. Thank you for that idea.

1822
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: We will suggest it to them. By the way, I

1823
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: don't think the school lunch thing is finished because I

1824
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: think Peggy the principal's got to be in her bonnet

1825
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: about it, and she might in fact be coming back

1826
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: for David Seymour. So Lord, see where that goes. I've

1827
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: been telling you the last few days about the Annaka

1828
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: Wells big spend and keep the government Limo's waiting outside

1829
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 2: the NRL for ten hours saga over in Australia, there

1830
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: is a really weird side story that's just popped up

1831
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: in this involving the media. So news dot com in Australia,

1832
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: as in news dot com dot Au, which is owned

1833
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: by News Corp, was the first one to break the

1834
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: story about her, which is and where they started. The

1835
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: things developed since then. But they started with one hundred

1836
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars that she blew taxpayer money on a trip

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01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: to New York last Tuesday. Let me just think about that.

1838
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars on a trip to New York.

1839
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Mental anyway, so obviously a story. So they pop it

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: up on news dot com dot com and then they

1841
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: spike it a few hours later. So when you go

1842
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: to click the link, and this is within the same day,

1843
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: a few hours later you click the link, nothing, it's dead.

1844
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: There's no story. But what had happened by then is

1845
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: it had already been sent around by all the press gallery.

1846
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: They've got a little in Australia and Camber, they've got

1847
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: a little like messaging thing that they do with each other,

1848
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: and about two hundred of them had already seen the story.

1849
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: So the next morning, this is Wednesday, there's no link.

1850
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: So t twogb just runs the story like it's new,

1851
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: and it runs it as an exclusive basically copies the story,

1852
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: pretends it's its own. Then everyone piles and and then

1853
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: it becomes the massive yarn that it is over there

1854
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: with the taxis beg kept waiting and all the events

1855
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: and all the stuff. Then Friday evening, so fast forward

1856
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: three days, three days after the initial news dot com

1857
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: dot au story, they finally get into it again at

1858
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: News Corp. They finally report it again for the first

1859
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: time in The Daily Telegraph, another one of their publications.

1860
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: But now they're going soft on the story that they

1861
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: originally started. And on Sunday, a couple of days after that,

1862
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph's Weekend National Weekend political editor James Campbell

1863
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: actually comes out in defense of Annika Wells, saying, layoff Anika.

1864
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: She's done absolutely nothing wrong. So you, I mean, you'd

1865
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: be fair enough to look at it and go, what

1866
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: the hell has just happened here? You broke the story.

1867
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: Now you're defending her. Now you're not running the original story.

1868
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 2: What apparently happened behind the scenes is that an executive

1869
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: saw the original story and pulled it offline. Because the

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01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: reason that Annaka Wells was in New York was to

1871
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: promote the government's social media ban at the un and

1872
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: NewsCorp are the ones who started calling for the social

1873
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: media band, so she was just basically helping them with

1874
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: the thing that they were campaigning on, and the executive

1875
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: thought that having a crack at her for the trip

1876
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: jarred with their advocacy for the band. And also when

1877
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: she was in New York, she met with one of them,

1878
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: and there are photos of the meeting with one of them.

1879
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 2: So it all gets very very complicated. But the problem

1880
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: that they've got is a problem that everybody's got around

1881
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: the world. And this is not great. This erodes a

1882
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 2: media trust, doesn't it. Because you're a taxpayer reading this,

1883
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: you go, oh, look they're having a crack at Anaka

1884
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: on now they're defending Anaka. What's going? Oh they actually

1885
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: mates with Anaka, So thanks a lot. News dot com

1886
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: dot au ten.

1887
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,919
Speaker 1: Two Heather du Pussy Allen on the mic asking Breakfast

1888
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: were the defender and news togs dead b Heather, this is.

1889
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: To answer my question actually, which I asked ages ago,

1890
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: what do you if you because Glenn and I are

1891
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: now in a difficult situation where we've been loving the

1892
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: kiwifruit and the Kiwifruit is the superfruit that apparently, if

1893
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: you eat that, your whole life is vastly improved and

1894
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 2: you can sleep and do all the things function the

1895
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: human functions that you need to do just so much better.

1896
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 2: But now it's not on the shelf. So what do

1897
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: you eat? Nectarines? Apparently now I don't know. I mean,

1898
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: I suspect you are a nectarine grower pumping your own fruit,

1899
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: texting me still, I'll give it a whoon. We'll come

1900
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: back to it, see if it works or not. It

1901
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: sticks away from nine.

1902
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Trending now Withers Warehouse the real house of fragrances.

1903
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: So America is completely and utterly in love with a

1904
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: Florida sheriff right now. This is Polk Country Sheriff Grady Judd.

1905
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 19: Now.

1906
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: He did a press conference after eight members of a

1907
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: youth NF bell team were arrested for stealing thousands of

1908
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: dollars of sport equipment while at an away game, and

1909
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: America is happy with his explanation of why and cracking

1910
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: down on youth crime.

1911
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 7: So when we notify the coach who is responsible for them,

1912
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 7: you would think he would be interested in holding them

1913
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 7: accountable and responsible. Instead, he goes to the deputies and

1914
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 7: begs them not to take these young men into custody.

1915
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Any similarities between him and the turnaround in youth crime here,

1916
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: minds you. Judd also went viral a couple of months

1917
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 2: ago when he said this.

1918
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 22: If you need to shoot somebody, shoot him a lot.

1919
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 22: He plans on having a gun doing all the shooting,

1920
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 22: and you're just the setting duck where the ducks need

1921
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 22: to shoot back.

1922
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so you can decide. I mean, you know, it's advice.

1923
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: Everybody's got advice. You can decide for yourself whether you're

1924
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: into that advice or not. I need to tell you

1925
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: what's going on with I think this is my favorite

1926
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: video of the day. I often find myself having a

1927
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: favorite one. This one is what's happened to Elon Musk.

1928
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: It's the robot demo mountdown. If you haven't looked at it,

1929
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 2: I mean basically, what this is doing is it's calling

1930
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: bs on all of Elon Musk's claims with Elon reckons,

1931
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: the robots are going to take over and do all

1932
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: of our jobs for us. Remember he had the one

1933
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 2: where he had the what if they called the Optimist

1934
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Speaker 2: or something like that. Yeah, Optimist, they had the robot

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Speaker 2: folding the washing and everybody was like, wow, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, it turns out it was actually remote controlled,

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Speaker 2: So nothing wow about that at all. It's when they

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Speaker 2: can do it by themselves that it matters. Anyway. So

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Speaker 2: on Saturday they had a bit of a demonstration at

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Speaker 2: the Tesla showroom and the robot was supposed to hand

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Speaker 2: out bottles of water, but all of a sudden, it

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Speaker 2: just fails to grab one, sort of jigs the table

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Speaker 2: a bit, knocks most of the bottles over. Then, in

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Speaker 2: a very weirdly human move, puts its hands to its

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Speaker 2: head and makes emotion resembling lifting a pair of goggles off,

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Speaker 2: and then crashes to the floor, which suggests yet again

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Speaker 2: that it may in fact be remote controlled. Because of course,

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Speaker 2: what would the human do if the human was sitting

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Speaker 2: there with one of those virtual reality headsets on and

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Speaker 2: things started to go awry and didn't work, what would

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Speaker 2: the human do. The human would put their hands to

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Speaker 2: their head and take the virtual headset off. So that's

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Speaker 2: what the robot was doing. So elon Musk, once again,

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Speaker 2: all the big talk not managing to deliver at the moment. Heather,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about the kiwikau. Is the Italian green kiwi's

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Speaker 2: on its way? Have you had a green kiwi from Italy?

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Speaker 2: Glenn I?

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Speaker 18: The Kiwi fruit aren't actually for me. I'm not a

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Speaker 18: massive fan. I am the purchaser of groceries in our

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Speaker 18: house and they're in hot demand from other members of

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Speaker 18: the household.

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Speaker 2: Has your client had an Italian green kiwi?

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Speaker 18: Probably because we'll take what we can get.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you ever need Kiwi fruit that badly,

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Speaker 2: so I would say, don't buy the Italian green kiwi

1967
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Speaker 2: because when we bought it must have been this time

1968
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Speaker 2: last year. We bought it and then said, what the

1969
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Speaker 2: hell has happened to Kiwi fruit? Why is this happening? Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's right, it's not from New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: It is one of the things things've got pretty you

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Speaker 18: spread in the hothouse. We've gone to plumb cots.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 18: It's not a plummet's not an apricot. It's halfway over twenty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay. I don't know what your problem is,

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Speaker 2: but you could probably shry a kiwi crush and that

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Speaker 2: will help you out there. See you tomorrow.

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