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Speaker 2: Welcome to podcast two hundred and fifty seven for September

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Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty twenty four. What is truth is not

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Speaker 2: an original question, Neither has it been answered legitimately in

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Speaker 2: a myriad of circumstances. In fact, the search for truth

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Speaker 2: has been stymied more often than most people would ever realize,

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Speaker 2: in all sorts of circumstances. But for it to continue

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Speaker 2: in the most elite circles as often as it does

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Speaker 2: is not almost criminal, but criminality at its most shameful.

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Speaker 2: And so it is in the world of science and medicine. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: it's a case of follow the money. The story of

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Speaker 2: doctor Linus Pauling is fascinating. His book The Nature of

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Speaker 2: the Chemical Bond was or is considered chemistry's most influential

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Speaker 2: book of the century. In the three decades since it

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Speaker 2: was published, it was cited sixteen thousand times. Linus Pauling

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Speaker 2: is one of only five in history to win two

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Speaker 2: Nobel Prizes, but Pauling was essentially sacked from his job

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Speaker 2: at the California Institute of Technology. Doctor Paul Merrick has

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Speaker 2: enjoyed his reputation as the most published and influential clinician

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Speaker 2: researcher in critical care medicine in the United States, and

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Speaker 2: for good reason. Doctor Merrick is a giant in the

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Speaker 2: academic research world, with an h index of triple i,

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Speaker 2: which placed him in the top percentile of the world's

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Speaker 2: elite published positions. But doctor Merrick was forced out of

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Speaker 2: his position and career. To add a further insult, he

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Speaker 2: man might have given up, but not doctor Merrick. Despite

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Speaker 2: facing financial, personal and professional ruin, Marrek focused not on

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Speaker 2: himself but on others. With laser like intensity dodtor. Merrick

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Speaker 2: found his footing on what mattered most to him, saving

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Speaker 2: the life of others. But it didn't stop there. The

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Speaker 2: story of doctor Paul Merrick is fascinating. Following the events

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Speaker 2: that I've in part described, doctor Merrick turned his attention

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Speaker 2: to cancer, but first something came to light shortly before

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Speaker 2: this podcast was put to bed, and it came in

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Speaker 2: the form of an email from Jordan Williams from the

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Speaker 2: Taxpayers Union. At it's headed, Andrew Costa has lost the plot.

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Speaker 2: Political pundits across the country spat out their coffee this

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Police toward politics and advocacy. Back in June,

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Speaker 2: the Police Commissioner's alter ego one Andrew Caster was doing

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Speaker 2: For someone now crying tears about being dragged into political debates,

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Speaker 2: of alcohol. At the time, the Taxpayers Union labeled Costa

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Speaker 2: a constitutional barbarian in that he was blatantly ignoring the

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Speaker 2: long held constitutional convention that police, especially leadership, enforced the law,

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Speaker 2: to the conventions he was supposed to protect. No wonder

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Speaker 2: him in a cushy job in another government department. His

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Speaker 2: And I've wondered time and time again how does this

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Speaker 2: see your healthcare professional. Farmer Broker Auckland. There is a

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Speaker 2: book that came out in nineteen eighty two. It's called

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Speaker 2: Betrayers of the Truth, Fraud and Deceit in the Halls

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Speaker 2: of Science. Nicholas Wade is a journalist with The New

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Speaker 2: York Times. He was one of the co authors, and

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Speaker 2: it's the sort of book that The New York Times,

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Speaker 2: quite frankly these days, wouldn't want to be associated with.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I want to quote you from the back.

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Speaker 2: Betrays of the Truth is an important book for it

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Speaker 2: challenges the conventional wisdom of objectivity in science. It is

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Speaker 2: not an indictment of all scientists, but rather a thoughtful,

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Speaker 2: well written, and well documented analysis of how fraud and

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Speaker 2: self delusion can occur in a system which too often

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Speaker 2: is claimed to be immune to such deviations. I commend

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Speaker 2: it to all readers. Now, the author of that quote

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Speaker 2: was doctor Robert H. Ebert, former dean Harvard Medical School. Now,

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Speaker 2: to come out of anybody from Harvard, that to me

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Speaker 2: gives the opinion more weight. Anyway, It's a very good

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Speaker 2: book that you can get on the second hand book

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Speaker 2: market still. Now, off the back of that Washington post

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Speaker 2: published August fourteen, the American Board of Internal Medicine revoked

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Speaker 2: the certifications of Pierre Corey and Paul Merrick, two physicians

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Speaker 2: known for continuing to promote ibermectin and anti parasitic medicaid

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Speaker 2: founded to be ineffective. The two men co founded the

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Speaker 2: Frontline COVID nineteen Critical Care Alliance, which experts say spread

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Speaker 2: misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic. Now you know that my

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Speaker 2: of the word experts. The aforementioned Dr Paul Merrick is

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Speaker 2: the Latensmith podcast. Welcome to New Zealand. Also, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Just referring to that last little little quote I read

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. But the fact that they're still chasing you,

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Speaker 2: per Cory, but probably a countless number of, shall we say,

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Speaker 2: most proficient doctors in America are the subject of a

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Speaker 2: similar activity. What do you say to that, now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're absolutely right that they revoked our board

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Speaker 3: certification because we were accused of spreading misinformation and we

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Speaker 3: are misinformationists and the reality is we just try to

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Speaker 3: It's an ongoing process, and you should be able to

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Speaker 3: have a dialogue, free dialogue. And once once you sensor science,

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Speaker 3: you decapitate science. And so you absolutely correct, they're going

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Speaker 3: after peer and myself. And you may not know this,

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Speaker 3: I actually came to New Zealand, the book was banned

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Speaker 3: by Amazon. So Amazon was selling the book. They had

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Speaker 3: got an email saying that you know, the information that

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Speaker 3: And all I was doing really was quoting peer reviewed

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Speaker 3: You know, the book has over eight hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: isn't assault if you go against the narrative, if you

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Speaker 3: whoever that they is. And it's very disturbing because you know,

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Speaker 3: And they don't like that.

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Speaker 2: Now, is it possible that you can appeal against them?

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Speaker 3: So we are yes. I mean, I think many people

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Speaker 3: because there are books that they sell that are for

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Speaker 2: You know, I have just checked with Amazon Australia because

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Speaker 2: Amazon Australia. What I've got is currently unavailable. We don't

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Speaker 2: So there's the answer. I would like to arrange with

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Speaker 3: So the book you can't get from Amazon. We obviously

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Speaker 3: are working out alternatives, but I can most certainly send

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Speaker 2: That would be very useful. Now, I did know that

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Speaker 3: any physician will tell you that's completely ridiculous. A physician

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know what you know, as I said before,

430
00:30:13,853 --> 00:30:19,613
Speaker 3: we either dividom my life BC and AC and unfortunately,

431
00:30:20,173 --> 00:30:24,213
Speaker 3: and I don't think many people appreciate the extent of

432
00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:28,693
Speaker 3: the lines that we were told. And so the absurdity

433
00:30:28,893 --> 00:30:34,973
Speaker 3: is that doctor Correa myself are quote it has been misinformationist,

434
00:30:35,053 --> 00:30:37,453
Speaker 3: but we're in fact telling the truth. And when you

435
00:30:37,493 --> 00:30:40,333
Speaker 3: actually look at the truth everything they told us, like

436
00:30:40,493 --> 00:30:45,253
Speaker 3: everything was a lie and it was predetermined, you can say,

437
00:30:45,373 --> 00:30:47,773
Speaker 3: you know, where did the virus come from? This wasn't

438
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:50,653
Speaker 3: from nature. You can look at the use of masks

439
00:30:50,933 --> 00:30:53,613
Speaker 3: we know that there was a complete and out of failure.

440
00:30:54,213 --> 00:30:58,333
Speaker 3: It's been well established. But COVID spreads by aerosol, not

441
00:30:58,493 --> 00:31:03,693
Speaker 3: by droplets spread, and this has been well defined scientifically.

442
00:31:03,733 --> 00:31:07,813
Speaker 3: We knew this in twenty twenty. And if you reckon

443
00:31:07,973 --> 00:31:14,213
Speaker 3: that it's spread by aerosols, then it makes masks completely ineffective,

444
00:31:14,613 --> 00:31:20,493
Speaker 3: it makes social distancing ineffective, it makes lockdowns completely ineffective.

445
00:31:20,893 --> 00:31:25,173
Speaker 3: So what they did was they instituted, were not just

446
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:30,333
Speaker 3: instituted mandated policies that were not based on good science.

447
00:31:30,773 --> 00:31:34,293
Speaker 3: And as we know, the consequences have been enormous, particularly

448
00:31:34,933 --> 00:31:38,893
Speaker 3: in places like Australia and New Zealand and Canada, where

449
00:31:39,373 --> 00:31:45,413
Speaker 3: you know, these draconian measures were enforced with almost military

450
00:31:45,573 --> 00:31:46,413
Speaker 3: like activity.

451
00:31:47,053 --> 00:31:51,373
Speaker 2: I want to make mention in passing of doctor Linus Pauling,

452
00:31:51,933 --> 00:31:56,853
Speaker 2: and I quote from an artic written by justice not

453
00:31:57,053 --> 00:32:02,933
Speaker 2: legal justice, justice Jus t Us Hope m D. He

454
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:07,693
Speaker 2: refers to the IV Vitamin C protocol that you have.

455
00:32:08,333 --> 00:32:11,213
Speaker 2: How would you put it just not discovered? What would

456
00:32:11,213 --> 00:32:11,613
Speaker 2: you say?

457
00:32:11,933 --> 00:32:16,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, we reinvented it, you know, I mean, so it's

458
00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:20,253
Speaker 3: very unusual for someone to invent something is often just

459
00:32:20,493 --> 00:32:24,213
Speaker 3: history repeating itself so you know, we put this protocol

460
00:32:24,253 --> 00:32:27,813
Speaker 3: together based on you know, his work as well as

461
00:32:27,893 --> 00:32:31,893
Speaker 3: other people's work, and you know, we show to be

462
00:32:31,973 --> 00:32:32,773
Speaker 3: highly effective.

463
00:32:33,733 --> 00:32:37,493
Speaker 2: So Dr Pauling, well, I'll just back up a little

464
00:32:37,493 --> 00:32:40,493
Speaker 2: bit referring to you. Doctor Marrek has enjoyed his reputation

465
00:32:40,693 --> 00:32:44,893
Speaker 2: as the most published and influential clinician researcher in critical

466
00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:47,653
Speaker 2: care medicine in the United States quote unquote, and for

467
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 2: good reason. Doctor Marek is a giant in the academic

468
00:32:51,773 --> 00:32:55,493
Speaker 2: research world, with an H index of one to eleven.

469
00:32:55,693 --> 00:32:56,773
Speaker 2: What is an H index?

470
00:32:58,613 --> 00:33:01,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, so an H index is a balance between the

471
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:06,413
Speaker 3: number of papers you've published and the number of times

472
00:33:06,493 --> 00:33:09,853
Speaker 3: the papers have been quoted. Because it's all very well

473
00:33:09,893 --> 00:33:13,013
Speaker 3: writing a paper, but if people ignore the paper and

474
00:33:13,573 --> 00:33:17,053
Speaker 3: you know, don't quote the paper, then it's it means

475
00:33:17,093 --> 00:33:20,933
Speaker 3: it's had a low impact. So the H index is

476
00:33:20,973 --> 00:33:25,453
Speaker 3: a blend of number of publications and the number of

477
00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:29,893
Speaker 3: times it's been quoted. Most noble laureates have an H

478
00:33:30,013 --> 00:33:33,293
Speaker 3: index of about forty to fifty. So you know, an

479
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 3: H index of over one hundred year signifies pretty significant

480
00:33:39,173 --> 00:33:42,053
Speaker 3: clinical and research productivity.

481
00:33:42,413 --> 00:33:45,093
Speaker 2: So your H index of one hundred and eleven which

482
00:33:45,173 --> 00:33:48,813
Speaker 2: placed him in the top percentile of the world's elite

483
00:33:48,973 --> 00:33:54,733
Speaker 2: published physitions. This stunned me as I as I read it.

484
00:33:54,813 --> 00:33:59,133
Speaker 2: After the way that you've been dealt with. His ivy

485
00:33:59,453 --> 00:34:05,173
Speaker 2: vitamin C protocol known as HAT HAT guarded massive attention

486
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:08,173
Speaker 2: with more than eleven hundred anecdotes from physicians around the

487
00:34:08,173 --> 00:34:11,813
Speaker 2: world world noting similar almost miraculous results from their septic

488
00:34:11,973 --> 00:34:16,093
Speaker 2: shock patients, and then mentions your hospital recorded a drop

489
00:34:16,093 --> 00:34:19,613
Speaker 2: in the death rate of of your sepsis patients from

490
00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:22,413
Speaker 2: twenty two percent to six percent over the year after

491
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:27,733
Speaker 2: you began using that vitamin C protocol. Now getting back

492
00:34:27,773 --> 00:34:36,933
Speaker 2: to Linus Pauling, he also was utilizing the same methodology.

493
00:34:37,293 --> 00:34:40,213
Speaker 2: He was afflicted with Bright's disease, a kidney condition at

494
00:34:40,253 --> 00:34:44,133
Speaker 2: age forty. He found an unorthodox but effective way to

495
00:34:44,173 --> 00:34:48,173
Speaker 2: treat himself using three grams per day of vitamin C. However,

496
00:34:48,653 --> 00:34:53,373
Speaker 2: this use of repurposed vitamins threatened the status quo and

497
00:34:53,533 --> 00:34:57,973
Speaker 2: was vehemently denounced as quackery. Doctor Merrick has found himself

498
00:34:58,013 --> 00:35:03,973
Speaker 2: similarly attacked by various moneyed interests. But the point is

499
00:35:03,973 --> 00:35:07,213
Speaker 2: that Linus Pauling kept himself alive for some considerable time

500
00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:10,733
Speaker 2: on that exact methodology.

501
00:35:11,773 --> 00:35:15,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, he wasn't a physician.

502
00:35:15,933 --> 00:35:18,533
Speaker 3: You know, he was a basic scientist and a physicist,

503
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:24,533
Speaker 3: but he understood the astonishing properties of vitamin C and

504
00:35:24,613 --> 00:35:28,333
Speaker 3: he obviously treated himself with vitamin C. And so the

505
00:35:28,453 --> 00:35:32,413
Speaker 3: point is that it's a vitamin C is a particularly

506
00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:40,133
Speaker 3: safe a drug or mineral or supplement. It's almost impossible

507
00:35:40,173 --> 00:35:43,893
Speaker 3: to harm somebody with vitamin C. So you know, you

508
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,853
Speaker 3: compare that with many of the common drugs that we

509
00:35:47,053 --> 00:35:51,533
Speaker 3: use that have a terrible side effect profile. So you know,

510
00:35:51,653 --> 00:35:55,053
Speaker 3: vitamin C is what the big farmer in the industrial

511
00:35:55,133 --> 00:36:00,213
Speaker 3: complex despises, something which is cheap, something which is safe,

512
00:36:00,853 --> 00:36:04,493
Speaker 3: which has a very favorable side effect profile, and can

513
00:36:04,533 --> 00:36:11,253
Speaker 3: be highly effective. It's exactly the kind of pharmaceutical intervention

514
00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:12,253
Speaker 3: they despise.

515
00:36:12,853 --> 00:36:16,053
Speaker 2: So just before we move on, I know that you

516
00:36:16,173 --> 00:36:19,813
Speaker 2: told this story, well I'm sure that you have told

517
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:22,293
Speaker 2: this story so often, but I would like you to

518
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,853
Speaker 2: repeat it, just briefly or otherwise as you want. When

519
00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:28,133
Speaker 2: you were in hospital, when you were working in hospital

520
00:36:28,173 --> 00:36:32,173
Speaker 2: and you developed this protocol, the seventy three year old

521
00:36:32,213 --> 00:36:37,493
Speaker 2: woman who came in on death's or just relate that

522
00:36:37,573 --> 00:36:38,533
Speaker 2: experience for us.

523
00:36:38,893 --> 00:36:42,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember it to this day quite well,

524
00:36:42,773 --> 00:36:45,733
Speaker 3: of course. So this was a lady in her seventies

525
00:36:45,773 --> 00:36:50,213
Speaker 3: who had severe, overwhelming accepsis and as if I recall,

526
00:36:50,293 --> 00:36:53,013
Speaker 3: it was from the billary tract and she was in

527
00:36:53,213 --> 00:36:58,293
Speaker 3: established septic shock. Her heart was not functioning, she needed

528
00:36:58,373 --> 00:37:01,853
Speaker 3: drugs to support her blood pressure, she need a ventilator

529
00:37:01,893 --> 00:37:05,613
Speaker 3: to support her lungs, she needed that dialysis machine to

530
00:37:06,133 --> 00:37:10,333
Speaker 3: control kidney failure. And so I knew this woman was

531
00:37:10,413 --> 00:37:14,973
Speaker 3: dying from a potentially treatable disease. So, you know, I

532
00:37:15,013 --> 00:37:18,893
Speaker 3: scratched my head and I thought, you know, what can

533
00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:24,653
Speaker 3: I do? You know, which is what most physicians would do.

534
00:37:24,693 --> 00:37:28,013
Speaker 3: You know, you just you got to scratch the barrel.

535
00:37:28,093 --> 00:37:31,813
Speaker 3: And I was aware of a physician at the University

536
00:37:31,813 --> 00:37:35,453
Speaker 3: of Virginia who had been using vitamin C and I

537
00:37:35,493 --> 00:37:38,653
Speaker 3: looked up the dose that he had used, and I thought,

538
00:37:38,733 --> 00:37:41,773
Speaker 3: you know what, let me try this. What what do

539
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:45,933
Speaker 3: I have to lose? So I asked the pharmacists did

540
00:37:45,933 --> 00:37:49,053
Speaker 3: they have ivy vitamin C? And indeed they did, so

541
00:37:49,093 --> 00:37:51,733
Speaker 3: I said, well, you know, could we please give this

542
00:37:52,253 --> 00:37:55,493
Speaker 3: the ivy vitamin C to this patient? You know, she's dying,

543
00:37:55,533 --> 00:37:58,293
Speaker 3: and I think it can help her. Obviously, I had

544
00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:01,693
Speaker 3: no idea what the outcome would be, you know, I

545
00:38:01,773 --> 00:38:06,453
Speaker 3: had expected that when I went home, the poor lady

546
00:38:06,453 --> 00:38:10,133
Speaker 3: would have passed on, and I was stunned. To say

547
00:38:10,173 --> 00:38:13,013
Speaker 3: I was stunned would be an understatement. The next morning

548
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:16,933
Speaker 3: she was sitting up in bed, awake, alert and responsive,

549
00:38:17,573 --> 00:38:20,533
Speaker 3: and it was. It was truly one of the most

550
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:24,053
Speaker 3: astonishing things that I had seen. And the nurses, of

551
00:38:24,173 --> 00:38:31,893
Speaker 3: course were obviously overwhelmed with happiness and pleasure because they

552
00:38:31,973 --> 00:38:35,853
Speaker 3: had seen the miracle of vitamin C in action. And

553
00:38:35,933 --> 00:38:39,453
Speaker 3: so obviously once you see something, you say, well it

554
00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:42,293
Speaker 3: was it just a fluck? Was she going to get better?

555
00:38:42,493 --> 00:38:45,933
Speaker 3: Or is there is this a valid intervention? So we

556
00:38:46,013 --> 00:38:49,333
Speaker 3: repeated it, and each time we saw the same thing,

557
00:38:49,893 --> 00:38:53,333
Speaker 3: and so we knew that this was a real thing.

558
00:38:54,173 --> 00:38:56,853
Speaker 3: What we did, though, which is really important, is that

559
00:38:56,893 --> 00:39:00,013
Speaker 3: we treated patients early. So these are patients who came

560
00:39:00,053 --> 00:39:03,013
Speaker 3: into the ICU were really sick and they were dying

561
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:05,573
Speaker 3: the same way is you know, as I said, you

562
00:39:05,613 --> 00:39:08,693
Speaker 3: don't wait for patients to get sicker, And we gave

563
00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:12,453
Speaker 3: the vitamin C immediately upfront, and so there have been

564
00:39:12,493 --> 00:39:17,333
Speaker 3: a number of randomized trials which have failed to replicate

565
00:39:17,413 --> 00:39:21,413
Speaker 3: what we did, including a study out of Australia. But

566
00:39:21,533 --> 00:39:24,333
Speaker 3: what they did in this particular study is they waited

567
00:39:24,773 --> 00:39:27,413
Speaker 3: at least twenty four hours after the patient had been

568
00:39:27,453 --> 00:39:31,853
Speaker 3: admitted to hospital before they had given the vita C,

569
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:35,773
Speaker 3: which makes absolutely no sense because if you're at risk

570
00:39:35,813 --> 00:39:39,813
Speaker 3: of dying, you want to intervene early. As I said before,

571
00:39:39,853 --> 00:39:44,333
Speaker 3: there's no disease that benefits from a delay in initiating therapy.

572
00:39:44,853 --> 00:39:48,053
Speaker 3: But this was done, we think, by design, to try

573
00:39:48,213 --> 00:39:52,813
Speaker 3: and discredit vitamin C. And after that, after that, you know,

574
00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:56,333
Speaker 3: we continue to use vitamin C. And we put together

575
00:39:56,453 --> 00:40:02,093
Speaker 3: a observational study because my nurses thought it unethical to

576
00:40:03,413 --> 00:40:05,853
Speaker 3: do a randomized study. You know, when you know something

577
00:40:05,893 --> 00:40:08,853
Speaker 3: is effective, because the nurses could see it, risk of

578
00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:12,253
Speaker 3: patients getting kidney failure went down, the use of the

579
00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:15,773
Speaker 3: analysis machines went down, the length of stay in the

580
00:40:15,973 --> 00:40:19,093
Speaker 3: ICU went down. So we kept on doing this and

581
00:40:19,493 --> 00:40:24,093
Speaker 3: we you know, we collected forty eight patients and we

582
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:28,493
Speaker 3: we published the data as an observational study. We used

583
00:40:28,493 --> 00:40:32,293
Speaker 3: a retrospective control group and it did, you know, it

584
00:40:32,293 --> 00:40:36,733
Speaker 3: did get people's attention, and we know from speaking to

585
00:40:36,853 --> 00:40:41,493
Speaker 3: clinicians that the response that we saw was very similar

586
00:40:41,493 --> 00:40:44,653
Speaker 3: to what they saw. But again, there were a number

587
00:40:44,653 --> 00:40:48,813
Speaker 3: of studies that were designed which we think we're designed

588
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:52,173
Speaker 3: to fail, in which the vitamin C was given very late,

589
00:40:52,413 --> 00:40:55,973
Speaker 3: and you know in that situation it's likely to be

590
00:40:56,453 --> 00:40:59,893
Speaker 3: less effective. And I think today you know there's still

591
00:40:59,933 --> 00:41:03,853
Speaker 3: a lot of interesting vitamin C. Although you know the

592
00:41:03,893 --> 00:41:07,933
Speaker 3: powers that we think it's an effective therapy. It's safe,

593
00:41:09,013 --> 00:41:13,373
Speaker 3: which is really important. So at worst, what you know,

594
00:41:13,413 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 3: when where patients called me, I said, well, you know what,

595
00:41:16,533 --> 00:41:19,053
Speaker 3: what do you have to lose? All that can happen

596
00:41:19,133 --> 00:41:21,693
Speaker 3: is you can say of the patient's life, it's exceedingly

597
00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:26,133
Speaker 3: safe and it's cheap. But that goes against you know,

598
00:41:26,293 --> 00:41:31,493
Speaker 3: what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is trying to push.

599
00:41:32,173 --> 00:41:34,453
Speaker 2: You came from South Africa and I think ninety five

600
00:41:35,693 --> 00:41:36,453
Speaker 2: ninety two.

601
00:41:36,533 --> 00:41:39,893
Speaker 3: If I remember I left just before a part eight

602
00:41:40,093 --> 00:41:41,053
Speaker 3: fell apart.

603
00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:44,133
Speaker 2: Well, your memory on that date would be better than mine,

604
00:41:44,213 --> 00:41:49,133
Speaker 2: of course, So you moved in ninety two, you discovered

605
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:54,813
Speaker 2: success and recognition, and now you find yourself in a

606
00:41:54,853 --> 00:42:00,173
Speaker 2: position of unemployment in what is your career? What you'd

607
00:42:00,173 --> 00:42:05,413
Speaker 2: prefer to be doing. How are you well? First of all,

608
00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:08,133
Speaker 2: do you have any regrets on moving to America after

609
00:42:08,453 --> 00:42:13,293
Speaker 2: after what's happened? And how are you now making a living?

610
00:42:15,373 --> 00:42:18,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you asked some good questions. So, you know,

611
00:42:18,853 --> 00:42:23,093
Speaker 3: I thought the move to the US was a good move.

612
00:42:23,173 --> 00:42:26,853
Speaker 3: It gave me enormous opportunities. I could achieve what I

613
00:42:26,893 --> 00:42:32,573
Speaker 3: wanted achieve professionally. But obviously I had no idea what

614
00:42:32,973 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 3: was in store for me. You know, I thought, if

615
00:42:36,613 --> 00:42:38,773
Speaker 3: you were a scientist and you tell the truth, that

616
00:42:39,293 --> 00:42:46,813
Speaker 3: people value those characteristics, but certainly not so obviously, you know,

617
00:42:47,013 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 3: telling the truth. And with COVID, I lost my job,

618
00:42:50,973 --> 00:42:54,693
Speaker 3: I lost my license, I lost my hospital privileges. As

619
00:42:54,733 --> 00:42:59,253
Speaker 3: you said, the American Board of Internal Medicine decertified me.

620
00:42:59,933 --> 00:43:06,053
Speaker 3: So basically the system had made me unemployable, which is,

621
00:43:06,373 --> 00:43:10,373
Speaker 3: you know, which is a pity. But you know what, I.

622
00:43:10,653 --> 00:43:13,933
Speaker 2: Don't sound angry.

623
00:43:14,253 --> 00:43:17,893
Speaker 3: You know what I've I missed clinical medicine because that's

624
00:43:17,933 --> 00:43:21,653
Speaker 3: what I was. I was a South African doctor who's

625
00:43:21,893 --> 00:43:28,173
Speaker 3: got enormous enjoyment and satisfaction from treating patients, you know,

626
00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:33,013
Speaker 3: direct patient contact, which I think is so important. But

627
00:43:33,373 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 3: I've had to kind of reinvent myself. Obviously, financially, I've

628
00:43:39,093 --> 00:43:42,253
Speaker 3: taken a big hit, But you know what, money doesn't

629
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:45,493
Speaker 3: buy everything in this world. And so I've found a

630
00:43:45,533 --> 00:43:49,533
Speaker 3: new niche of trying to tell the truth as it

631
00:43:49,613 --> 00:43:54,253
Speaker 3: goes to cancer, as it goes to diabetes, as it

632
00:43:54,293 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 3: goes to depression, as it goes to most chronic diseases,

633
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:02,653
Speaker 3: because basically, the healthcare system in the US anyway, and

634
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:06,413
Speaker 3: I would assume in most Western countries, is a system

635
00:44:06,933 --> 00:44:12,293
Speaker 3: based on chronic disease. It's a system which promotes sickness,

636
00:44:12,693 --> 00:44:16,893
Speaker 3: it promotes the use of medications. It's a sickness system

637
00:44:17,293 --> 00:44:21,253
Speaker 3: rather than a healthcare system. And so for many of

638
00:44:21,293 --> 00:44:24,773
Speaker 3: the diseases I've mentioned, you know, what they want to

639
00:44:24,813 --> 00:44:29,613
Speaker 3: do is get you hooked on medication for life. And

640
00:44:29,653 --> 00:44:32,133
Speaker 3: I give you as an example. I was a type

641
00:44:32,133 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 3: two diabetic and I thought I would have type two

642
00:44:35,493 --> 00:44:37,693
Speaker 3: diabetes for the rest of my life and I would

643
00:44:37,733 --> 00:44:42,773
Speaker 3: be dependent on, you know, expensive pharmaceutical products. But just

644
00:44:43,693 --> 00:44:48,133
Speaker 3: adopting a number of lifestyle changes which are not very difficult,

645
00:44:48,453 --> 00:44:52,573
Speaker 3: I was able to cure myself of diabetes. And you know,

646
00:44:52,653 --> 00:44:57,813
Speaker 3: you can say the same thing about metabolic syndrome, depression,

647
00:44:58,653 --> 00:45:04,653
Speaker 3: many autoimmune diseases that you know, patients can empower themselves

648
00:45:04,693 --> 00:45:08,893
Speaker 3: to take control, not to trust the healthcare system. Terrible

649
00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,533
Speaker 3: thing that I'm saying, and I say this with a

650
00:45:11,973 --> 00:45:17,093
Speaker 3: broken heart, that the healthcare system is not a healthcare system.

651
00:45:17,133 --> 00:45:20,733
Speaker 3: It's a disease system that's designed to keep you as

652
00:45:20,813 --> 00:45:23,373
Speaker 3: sick as you can for as long as they can,

653
00:45:23,893 --> 00:45:26,573
Speaker 3: and for them to make as much money as they can.

654
00:45:27,373 --> 00:45:31,213
Speaker 3: And so I have evolved, and so I have, you know,

655
00:45:32,413 --> 00:45:35,293
Speaker 3: help people, and I think in this role maybe I've

656
00:45:35,373 --> 00:45:37,733
Speaker 3: reached more people than I did before.

657
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:42,493
Speaker 2: And I hope you continue to do so. Guy Hatchett

658
00:45:42,533 --> 00:45:46,373
Speaker 2: is an Englishman who book up residents in New Zealand

659
00:45:46,493 --> 00:45:50,533
Speaker 2: some considerable time back. He is not a doctor, but

660
00:45:50,533 --> 00:45:56,373
Speaker 2: he's a PhD in an associated area. He published something

661
00:45:56,413 --> 00:45:59,813
Speaker 2: on and he publishes frequently and he's finding a battle.

662
00:46:00,253 --> 00:46:03,533
Speaker 2: But he published something over this last weekend to do

663
00:46:03,693 --> 00:46:09,373
Speaker 2: with New Zealand Emergency Department data wire a freedom of

664
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:14,053
Speaker 2: information request to the Health Department or Health New Zealand.

665
00:46:15,653 --> 00:46:18,093
Speaker 2: They were asked for the number of people under the

666
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:22,453
Speaker 2: age of forty presenting to emergency departments throughout New Zealand

667
00:46:22,493 --> 00:46:28,413
Speaker 2: hospitals with chest pain or heart issues by year, And

668
00:46:28,493 --> 00:46:33,013
Speaker 2: here are some quick figures twenty nineteen, twenty two hundred

669
00:46:33,053 --> 00:46:37,773
Speaker 2: and nineteen, twenty twenty four, four hundred and six, twenty one,

670
00:46:38,773 --> 00:46:44,453
Speaker 2: thirteen thousand and sixty three, twenty two, twenty one thousand,

671
00:46:44,573 --> 00:46:48,973
Speaker 2: four hundred and sixteen in twenty three, last year twenty

672
00:46:49,093 --> 00:46:52,173
Speaker 2: thousand and five, and so far this year, not so

673
00:46:52,253 --> 00:46:55,133
Speaker 2: far to June this year, halfway through the year it

674
00:46:55,213 --> 00:47:00,573
Speaker 2: was fourteen thousand, six hundred and thirty nine. How do

675
00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:03,413
Speaker 2: those figures affect you? What are your thoughts?

676
00:47:04,573 --> 00:47:07,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I think those figures are alarming and any

677
00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:14,173
Speaker 3: health care administrator or any healthcare anyone involved in healthcare

678
00:47:14,213 --> 00:47:18,133
Speaker 3: should be shocked by those data because obviously there's something

679
00:47:18,213 --> 00:47:23,293
Speaker 3: that's happened in our community that's affecting the health of

680
00:47:23,453 --> 00:47:28,293
Speaker 3: young people and their cardiovascular health. And you know, it's

681
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:33,373
Speaker 3: not difficult to know what that intervention is. It certainly

682
00:47:33,413 --> 00:47:36,853
Speaker 3: is not climate change. Climate change has not caused all

683
00:47:36,933 --> 00:47:41,533
Speaker 3: of these heart attacks and chest pains. There is something

684
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:45,253
Speaker 3: that happened in twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, and

685
00:47:45,453 --> 00:47:48,053
Speaker 3: you know, I'll let you guess or your listeners guess

686
00:47:48,653 --> 00:47:53,053
Speaker 3: what it was, but that intervention has directly increased the

687
00:47:53,213 --> 00:47:59,933
Speaker 3: risk of cardiovascular disease, chest pain, and sudden death. And

688
00:48:00,573 --> 00:48:07,133
Speaker 3: it's alarming. And so if healthcare administrators or legislators were

689
00:48:07,813 --> 00:48:11,733
Speaker 3: really interested in the healthcare of the community, they would

690
00:48:11,773 --> 00:48:16,613
Speaker 3: investigate this in significant depth and to try and figure

691
00:48:16,733 --> 00:48:22,293
Speaker 3: out which, we know, what the cause is, the you

692
00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:25,053
Speaker 3: know what has happened, and what measures can be taken

693
00:48:25,573 --> 00:48:30,373
Speaker 3: to protect these poor people from further quodiovascular events.

694
00:48:30,653 --> 00:48:36,173
Speaker 2: I'll get your opinion. Also on his last short paragraph,

695
00:48:36,253 --> 00:48:40,453
Speaker 2: it is so far past time to recognize past mRNA

696
00:48:40,653 --> 00:48:45,893
Speaker 2: COVID vaccine harm and the growing dangers ahead, especially as

697
00:48:46,093 --> 00:48:49,613
Speaker 2: multiple mRNA vaccines are under development and soon to be

698
00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:54,613
Speaker 2: offered to the public. Our government is planning to deregulate biotechnology,

699
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:57,933
Speaker 2: rushing like a must to the flame. This has to

700
00:48:57,973 --> 00:49:01,533
Speaker 2: stop now, And you would.

701
00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:05,813
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I absolutely agree. I mean so obviously, what

702
00:49:05,893 --> 00:49:09,053
Speaker 3: I was saying is that there's very good data that

703
00:49:09,253 --> 00:49:15,413
Speaker 3: these jabs, these amorina genetic therapy jabs are directly responsible

704
00:49:15,493 --> 00:49:19,853
Speaker 3: for the massive increase in a sudden deaths in cardiovascular

705
00:49:19,893 --> 00:49:25,813
Speaker 3: events through multiple different pathways. The spike protein is probably

706
00:49:25,853 --> 00:49:30,773
Speaker 3: the most toxic protein known to the human body. It

707
00:49:30,813 --> 00:49:35,053
Speaker 3: does all kinds of really bad things. A recent paper

708
00:49:35,493 --> 00:49:39,853
Speaker 3: in Nature, which is a really reputable journal, so you know,

709
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:42,093
Speaker 3: we're going back to the journals. Can you trust it?

710
00:49:42,133 --> 00:49:47,333
Speaker 3: But it actually showed that spike protein directly binds to fibrin,

711
00:49:47,933 --> 00:49:51,813
Speaker 3: which is a clotting protein and activates clotting. So you

712
00:49:51,853 --> 00:49:56,173
Speaker 3: know that wasn't censored up until now. And so we

713
00:49:56,253 --> 00:50:01,533
Speaker 3: know that spike protein causes inflammation of the lining of

714
00:50:01,653 --> 00:50:06,773
Speaker 3: the blood vessels, it causes inflammation in krdiac blood vessels,

715
00:50:07,133 --> 00:50:10,653
Speaker 3: it causes damage to the heart. So this is a

716
00:50:10,813 --> 00:50:16,093
Speaker 3: this is a well documented in the literature observation, and

717
00:50:16,173 --> 00:50:19,973
Speaker 3: so it puts the community at increased risk of sudden

718
00:50:20,013 --> 00:50:23,973
Speaker 3: cardiac deaths. And we know there's been an explosion of

719
00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:27,973
Speaker 3: sudden deaths in young people, which is very, very troubling.

720
00:50:30,493 --> 00:50:33,133
Speaker 2: How many speeches have you given so far? Just the one?

721
00:50:35,733 --> 00:50:40,173
Speaker 3: So in New Zealand, we had an event in christ Church.

722
00:50:40,253 --> 00:50:43,573
Speaker 3: I've given you one lecture there, and we have an

723
00:50:43,653 --> 00:50:46,853
Speaker 3: upcoming event in Auckland and I'm going to repeat the

724
00:50:46,853 --> 00:50:50,933
Speaker 3: same lecture. But you know, I've done many zoom conferences

725
00:50:51,253 --> 00:50:55,973
Speaker 3: on this topic, and you know I will continue to

726
00:50:56,013 --> 00:50:59,213
Speaker 3: tell the truth. But you know, if people want to disagree,

727
00:50:59,493 --> 00:51:02,853
Speaker 3: then that's fine. We can have a civil conversation and

728
00:51:02,893 --> 00:51:08,333
Speaker 3: discuss the science, but you can't obliterate what you don't

729
00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:09,093
Speaker 3: want to see.

730
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:14,213
Speaker 2: Any doctors turn up for your christ Church speech, you know.

731
00:51:14,533 --> 00:51:18,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, So surprisingly, their attendance was very good. You know,

732
00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:22,613
Speaker 3: I would say fifty percent will maybe lay people, fifty

733
00:51:22,653 --> 00:51:27,133
Speaker 3: percent were physicians. And I think, you know, it's a

734
00:51:27,213 --> 00:51:30,453
Speaker 3: delight to speak to these people because you feel that

735
00:51:30,973 --> 00:51:33,733
Speaker 3: you are you're amongst your brothers and sisters, that you

736
00:51:34,853 --> 00:51:37,133
Speaker 3: like minded people, and you can talk to each other.

737
00:51:37,173 --> 00:51:40,253
Speaker 3: And it was very enlightening. I think it was enlightening

738
00:51:40,333 --> 00:51:43,773
Speaker 3: for me, but for the audience as well. And that's

739
00:51:43,813 --> 00:51:46,853
Speaker 3: what we need more of, is let's have open dialogue,

740
00:51:46,933 --> 00:51:50,453
Speaker 3: Let's talk to each other. Let's be civil to each other,

741
00:51:51,053 --> 00:51:56,813
Speaker 3: rather than all these censorship and recriminations and tapers being

742
00:51:56,813 --> 00:52:00,853
Speaker 3: withdrawn and books being banned. I think that's heading in

743
00:52:00,893 --> 00:52:01,973
Speaker 3: a really bad direction.

744
00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:07,093
Speaker 2: But it's hitting in that direction along with another a

745
00:52:07,213 --> 00:52:12,733
Speaker 2: number of other causes. Shall we say, of those doctors

746
00:52:12,773 --> 00:52:17,413
Speaker 2: who turned up for christ Church, did any challenge you? Seriously?

747
00:52:19,093 --> 00:52:21,213
Speaker 3: No, I can't think of this thing. You know, we

748
00:52:21,293 --> 00:52:23,853
Speaker 3: had many you know, after the lecture, I spoke to

749
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:27,813
Speaker 3: many physicians and none of them could present, you know,

750
00:52:28,013 --> 00:52:33,013
Speaker 3: data which discredited what I had to say. So I

751
00:52:33,013 --> 00:52:37,293
Speaker 3: think that they were in full agreement because if you

752
00:52:37,293 --> 00:52:41,053
Speaker 3: look at the data they even the data that's published,

753
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:45,693
Speaker 3: it's overwhelming. It's you know, it's very difficult to dispute

754
00:52:45,773 --> 00:52:49,093
Speaker 3: the obvious. For example, I can give you quote one

755
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:53,573
Speaker 3: study from the Cleveland Clinic. The Cleveland Clinic is regarded

756
00:52:53,613 --> 00:52:58,053
Speaker 3: as one of the most prestigious medical institutions in the world,

757
00:52:58,453 --> 00:53:04,213
Speaker 3: and basically what they showed is the more the increasing

758
00:53:04,413 --> 00:53:07,853
Speaker 3: number of times you get jabbed, So those patients who

759
00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:12,413
Speaker 3: received the most number of vaccinations had the increased risk

760
00:53:12,493 --> 00:53:16,173
Speaker 3: of getting COVID. So rather than the jab protecting you,

761
00:53:16,733 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 3: it seemed that the more times that they received the vaccine,

762
00:53:23,533 --> 00:53:27,173
Speaker 3: the more times, the greater their risk of getting COVID,

763
00:53:27,573 --> 00:53:30,213
Speaker 3: so that the risk of COVID increased with the number

764
00:53:30,333 --> 00:53:36,173
Speaker 3: of jabs. I mean, it's very compelling data.

765
00:53:36,653 --> 00:53:43,693
Speaker 2: I want I want to raise another subject just before

766
00:53:43,693 --> 00:53:49,293
Speaker 2: we conclude, and just just get your opinion. So I

767
00:53:49,333 --> 00:53:54,333
Speaker 2: asked this as an innocent question, do you have an

768
00:53:54,333 --> 00:53:56,733
Speaker 2: opinion on statins.

769
00:53:59,493 --> 00:54:02,093
Speaker 3: So that's a really interesting question. As I say, you know,

770
00:54:03,013 --> 00:54:06,253
Speaker 3: I have changed, as is my understanding. I used to

771
00:54:06,293 --> 00:54:10,933
Speaker 3: take a statin until they became aware of the staaten hoax.

772
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:14,733
Speaker 3: It's a complete and ut a hoax that these drugs

773
00:54:14,773 --> 00:54:18,253
Speaker 3: have significant side effects. In fact, you know, what they

774
00:54:18,293 --> 00:54:22,893
Speaker 3: do is interfere with cholesterol synthesis, and the probably the

775
00:54:22,933 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 3: most important organ that depends on cholesterol is the brain.

776
00:54:27,093 --> 00:54:30,413
Speaker 3: The brand has a high cholesterol content, and there's very

777
00:54:30,453 --> 00:54:35,013
Speaker 3: good data showing that statins increase your risk of dementia.

778
00:54:35,653 --> 00:54:39,733
Speaker 3: We know statins increase the risk of liver disease, statins

779
00:54:39,773 --> 00:54:43,653
Speaker 3: increase the risk of muscle disease, but do they protect

780
00:54:43,893 --> 00:54:49,773
Speaker 3: And the data suggests that if for primary prophylaxis, the

781
00:54:49,893 --> 00:54:55,173
Speaker 3: use of statins has negligible impact, So it increases the

782
00:54:55,253 --> 00:54:59,493
Speaker 3: risk of side effects with very little positive benefit. There

783
00:54:59,493 --> 00:55:04,253
Speaker 3: may be certain subgroups of patients that may benefit from

784
00:55:04,293 --> 00:55:09,213
Speaker 3: a statin for a short time limited trial months, but

785
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:12,893
Speaker 3: these are not drugs that should be given lifelong. It

786
00:55:13,053 --> 00:55:17,333
Speaker 3: just so happens that the statin but torvas staaten is

787
00:55:17,413 --> 00:55:21,693
Speaker 3: the most commonly prescribed drug in the United States of America.

788
00:55:22,173 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 3: That's this stranglehold Big Farmat has on the medical system.

789
00:55:30,373 --> 00:55:33,293
Speaker 3: We used to think that statan's were effective in preventing

790
00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:37,373
Speaker 3: heart disease, but we've now discovered that the converse is true.

791
00:55:37,573 --> 00:55:40,533
Speaker 2: When you say where would where would one find that

792
00:55:41,053 --> 00:55:42,773
Speaker 2: information confirmation?

793
00:55:44,453 --> 00:55:46,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's actually a few books that have been written

794
00:55:46,973 --> 00:55:51,053
Speaker 3: called the Staten Hoax, which I would suggest people read.

795
00:55:51,413 --> 00:55:55,933
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, the medical literature, the major medical journals

796
00:55:55,973 --> 00:56:00,253
Speaker 3: aren't going to promote this idea, but there have been

797
00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:03,893
Speaker 3: meta analyses that have been done published in peer review

798
00:56:04,013 --> 00:56:08,533
Speaker 3: journals which actually show that the mortality benefit of of

799
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:13,013
Speaker 3: primary profile acces with statins is close to zero, close

800
00:56:13,093 --> 00:56:16,613
Speaker 3: to zero. And we do know that statin's increase, as

801
00:56:16,653 --> 00:56:23,333
Speaker 3: I said, the isk of dementia, diabetes, lever disease, muscle disease. So,

802
00:56:23,533 --> 00:56:25,453
Speaker 3: you know, the truth ready is important.

803
00:56:26,293 --> 00:56:31,493
Speaker 2: But the eternal question is what is truth? That doesn't

804
00:56:31,533 --> 00:56:32,493
Speaker 2: require an answer?

805
00:56:34,293 --> 00:56:37,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's something. Yeah, I mean you ask a

806
00:56:37,493 --> 00:56:39,853
Speaker 3: really good question what is the truth? And I think,

807
00:56:40,573 --> 00:56:44,333
Speaker 3: you know, I think people need to question everything they

808
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:49,053
Speaker 3: told to, you know, to verify its source and to

809
00:56:49,573 --> 00:56:55,053
Speaker 3: verify this scientific rigorousness and just to not you know,

810
00:56:55,133 --> 00:57:00,733
Speaker 3: we sew brainwashed we need to start thinking critically and

811
00:57:00,813 --> 00:57:04,453
Speaker 3: start using our brain rather than believing everything we told,

812
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:07,853
Speaker 3: and then hopefully we will come to some kind of

813
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:08,293
Speaker 3: a truth.

814
00:57:09,773 --> 00:57:16,093
Speaker 2: Indeed, so finally, Robert Malone, are you friends with him?

815
00:57:16,773 --> 00:57:20,413
Speaker 3: I know Robert quite well. We equaint I would say

816
00:57:20,413 --> 00:57:23,093
Speaker 3: we acquaintances rather than good friends.

817
00:57:23,893 --> 00:57:28,893
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's better. He published, and by the way, I've

818
00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:31,653
Speaker 2: got I have to say this. I can't accept that

819
00:57:31,733 --> 00:57:35,173
Speaker 2: he writes everything himself, or be it accept that he

820
00:57:35,373 --> 00:57:38,933
Speaker 2: agrees with it and may even commission it. But he

821
00:57:38,973 --> 00:57:42,093
Speaker 2: published a fifty seven page because I got it here.

822
00:57:42,133 --> 00:57:47,013
Speaker 2: I printed it a great expense to myself. He published

823
00:57:47,173 --> 00:57:50,933
Speaker 2: only a few weeks ago, Packed for the Future, the

824
00:57:50,973 --> 00:57:59,213
Speaker 2: Socialist Manifesto fifty seven pages, and it begins September twenty

825
00:57:59,253 --> 00:58:01,693
Speaker 2: twenty four. The United Nations will be meeting in New

826
00:58:01,773 --> 00:58:05,133
Speaker 2: York to discuss and vote on three new treaties. The

827
00:58:05,173 --> 00:58:08,973
Speaker 2: first to be discussed is called the Pact for Future.

828
00:58:09,453 --> 00:58:12,093
Speaker 2: I'm not going to insult you all by stating that

829
00:58:12,813 --> 00:58:15,733
Speaker 2: or what I think about this document without having presented

830
00:58:15,773 --> 00:58:18,013
Speaker 2: the treaty for all of you to pursue. Keep in

831
00:58:18,053 --> 00:58:20,933
Speaker 2: mind that this is just one of three treaties or

832
00:58:21,013 --> 00:58:25,373
Speaker 2: packs up for votes and signing at the UN end

833
00:58:25,373 --> 00:58:29,413
Speaker 2: of September. That's by way of introduction to what I've

834
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:33,613
Speaker 2: received again. Only this morning, the UN just adopted the

835
00:58:33,653 --> 00:58:36,293
Speaker 2: Pact for the Future, which lays the foundation for a

836
00:58:36,333 --> 00:58:40,613
Speaker 2: new global order. That's what it says, a new global order.

837
00:58:41,053 --> 00:58:43,853
Speaker 2: You have any comment to make on the UN, the

838
00:58:43,933 --> 00:58:45,853
Speaker 2: who and where they're headed.

839
00:58:47,693 --> 00:58:51,253
Speaker 3: I think it's terrifying, and I think we should be

840
00:58:51,773 --> 00:58:57,013
Speaker 3: do whatever we can to speak to people in government,

841
00:58:57,093 --> 00:58:59,973
Speaker 3: speak of people in power, Speak to our legislators that

842
00:59:00,253 --> 00:59:03,053
Speaker 3: the WH and the UN need to take their fingers

843
00:59:03,093 --> 00:59:05,813
Speaker 3: out of our lives, you know, that they should not

844
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:09,853
Speaker 3: be dictating how we live, where we love, what we eat.

845
00:59:10,373 --> 00:59:16,093
Speaker 3: And I think this one power government is a very

846
00:59:16,213 --> 00:59:19,853
Speaker 3: dangerous slippery slope and we should be outraged.

847
00:59:20,493 --> 00:59:24,853
Speaker 2: And yet it hardly gets any mention, any discussion in

848
00:59:25,173 --> 00:59:28,853
Speaker 2: the mainstream media. It is something that seems to be

849
00:59:29,093 --> 00:59:33,093
Speaker 2: or seems to fit in with the general acceptance of

850
00:59:33,373 --> 00:59:34,293
Speaker 2: what is yet to come.

851
00:59:36,493 --> 00:59:39,893
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it's imperative that more people are

852
00:59:39,933 --> 00:59:44,373
Speaker 3: aware of where the U, N and w H is going,

853
00:59:44,773 --> 00:59:47,133
Speaker 3: and we need to do whatever we can to prevent.

854
00:59:47,533 --> 00:59:51,253
Speaker 3: You know, we need to restore democracy we need to

855
00:59:51,293 --> 00:59:58,853
Speaker 3: restore human dignity, we need to restore you know, human individuality,

856
00:59:59,413 --> 01:00:02,773
Speaker 3: and we're going down a terrible slippery slope.

857
01:00:03,013 --> 01:00:05,653
Speaker 2: Well you said, we not just on a pass. You're

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Speaker 2: well on the on the way to shall I say,

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Speaker 2: the nation that is to be admired and you are

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Speaker 2: to be congratulated. Thank you so much for the time

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Speaker 2: you've given. Glad you made it to New Zealand, and

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Speaker 2: I hope the rest of your journey and your speeches

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Speaker 2: are successful.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you kindly. It's been a delight speaking with

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Speaker 3: you and I've really enjoyed it, and so thank you kindly.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, and I speak on behalf of some considerable

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Speaker 2: thousands of people.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Paul, thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All Right, two hundred and fifty seven is the podcast number,

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Speaker 2: missus producer. Here we are Layton. Hello, So from James

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Speaker 2: once again Professor Jeffreysax with a clear exposition of the

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Speaker 2: current state of the world, together with some very relevant

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Speaker 2: and relatively recent economic history. We hope that you can

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Speaker 2: find the time to listen because it helps to understand

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Speaker 2: the dangerous debarcles in progress. It seems almost everywhere we

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Speaker 2: can only hope that in the not two distant future,

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Speaker 2: the US realizes the mess it's made of the last

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Speaker 2: eighty years and has a sea change in its policy outlook.

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Speaker 2: For one thing, the US dollar will soon no longer

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Speaker 2: be capable of being weaponized, and for another, the US,

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Speaker 2: if it's going to survive as the same democratic society

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Speaker 2: that it has been, it must put its energies, all

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Speaker 2: of them, into paying down its colossal debt and drastically

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Speaker 2: overhauling its governance so that it is once more governed

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Speaker 2: by elected officials instead of the faceless, unelect did suits

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Speaker 2: currently heading the country toward economic and nuclear arm again,

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Speaker 2: the world will be a very different place, peaceful and

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Speaker 2: prosperous instead of featuring constant belligerents and ongoing financial crises.

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Speaker 2: Once again, with all the best wishes and lots of

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Speaker 2: love from us. In El Raetiro, Columbia.

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Speaker 4: Leighton Rod says, it's been a while since I tuned

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Speaker 4: into your podcasts. Perhaps the relief of last October's election

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Speaker 4: results swayed me to have a break thinking Labour's toxic

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Speaker 4: ideology no longer had to be discussed on your show anymore,

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Speaker 4: But there are many other toxic ideologies in this world

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Speaker 4: to discuss, unfortunately, and one of them is Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: and whether she is a Marxist or something else. Your

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Speaker 4: guest professor Michael Recton World was more of the view

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Speaker 4: she was a globalist and a Marxist, though both positions

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Speaker 4: can be interchangeable in my view, So the verdict might

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Speaker 4: still be out on just what exactly is Kamala's ideology.

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Speaker 4: But what is evident to me is Kamala Harris's disdain

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Speaker 4: for the traditional family unit and America's Christian heritage, which

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Speaker 4: are the backbones of American society. If Kamala wins the presidency,

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Speaker 4: these two sacred values will be weakened even more. Maybe

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Speaker 4: Kamala is just an empty head idealist who stands for

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Speaker 4: everything other than America's traditional values.

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Speaker 2: That was from rod Ron. Certainly can't. I cannot agree

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Speaker 2: with the last sentence apart from the airhead part from Paul,

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Speaker 2: and this is producing this is you want to share

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Speaker 2: this with me because it's so long. I'll read the

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Speaker 2: first half and you can read the same. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: think it might be worthy pre covid I considered myself,

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Speaker 2: writes Paul, conservative realist with a more than passing interest

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Speaker 2: in US politics and an admiration for what Trump managed

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Speaker 2: to do to get himself elected in twenty sixteen. I

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Speaker 2: also had a significant disdain for a deerm and the

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Speaker 2: collective of incompetent I dealists who formed her government post COVID.

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Speaker 2: My family considered me a conspiracy theorist. I, like Trump,

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Speaker 2: called bs On the man made climate change hoax and

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Speaker 2: was never COVID vaxed the rabbit hole trifector. When it

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Speaker 2: comes to the current election cycle in the US, I

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Speaker 2: listen with interest to you and your guests when comments

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Speaker 2: are made around the outcome and some speculation whether there

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Speaker 2: is a parallel between Adern and Harris personally, I don't

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Speaker 2: see one as far as influencing the election result. A

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Speaker 2: Dern never won that election. Bill English did, but the

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Speaker 2: two comrades are definitely cut from the same cloth when

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Speaker 2: it comes to being communist, progressive grifters, and economically illiterate.

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Speaker 2: A Trump victory is imperative, but the deep state can't

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Speaker 2: allow it. Trump knows too much from his first term

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Speaker 2: for a second go round and is a legitimate threat

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Speaker 2: to them. They know that he won't make the same

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Speaker 2: mistake twice, will make that plural mistakes twice and the

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Speaker 2: construct of a Trump cabinet. I await with anticipation Kennedy

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Speaker 2: in charge of the CDCFDA is or the CIA, Gavin

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Speaker 2: and Musk actively involved in a realignment. Hold on while

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Speaker 2: I grab some popcorn. I do not believe the current

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Speaker 2: nat can take it over there.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe the current mainstream polls. And think back

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Speaker 4: to podcast two four nine with Patrick Basham. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: don't believe the current mainstream poles and think back to

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Speaker 4: podcast two four nine with Patrick Basham. Are you going

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Speaker 4: to have them back for an update towards the end

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Speaker 4: of October? By the way, what I see and what

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Speaker 4: we're being told don't gell. Look at the visibly increased

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Speaker 4: support Trump is receiving from the rank and file teamsters,

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Speaker 4: the firemen, and predict police, border security, black Hispanic men,

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Speaker 4: to name just a few voting blocks. The allegedly close

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Speaker 4: poles don't make sense. In twenty sixteen, the Poles had

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Speaker 4: Trump seventeen points behind in Wisconsin, and he won there.

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Speaker 4: We may not see such a discrepancy example this time around,

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Speaker 4: but equally, the legacy media outlets will not and cannot

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Speaker 4: show Trump leading against Harris, as it would not reflect

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Speaker 4: their efforts and narrative to turn her from the least

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Speaker 4: popular VP ever a month ago into some sort of

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Speaker 4: savior of mankind. Sadly, there are many who blindly believe

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Speaker 4: the propaganda.

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Speaker 2: JD.

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Speaker 4: Vance said an Attacker Carlson interview this week that their

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Speaker 4: own internal polling shows them winning. He would say that,

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Speaker 4: and I believe him. The Trump groundswell is undeniable. However,

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Speaker 4: I am very concerned that a Trump victory cannot be

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Speaker 4: tolerated by those with everything to lose, and the assassination

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Speaker 4: attempts will continue until they get it right. Finally, anyone

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Speaker 4: who thinks that Harris wasn't fed the questions beforehand at

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Speaker 4: the debate is delusional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Compare her coherent rehearsed answers at the debate after weeks

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Speaker 4: of preparation to her Oprah interview and other post debate

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Speaker 4: friendly softball interviews resulting in nonsensical word salad answers. And

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Speaker 4: you don't need to be Einstein to see it doesn't

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Speaker 4: add up in my view, if Trump can make it

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Speaker 4: to In my view, if Trump can make it to

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Speaker 4: November the fifth, unscathed. He will be forty seven and

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Speaker 4: a clear electoral college victory, as I believe the turnout

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Speaker 4: for him will be too big to rig. I thoroughly

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Speaker 4: enjoy your work each week, long Matte continue, Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much, Paul, Well.

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Speaker 2: Very good, bit long, but very good. I thought there

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Speaker 2: was a clever way to deal with myself.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: As for Patrick Basham, if my memory serves me correctly,

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Speaker 2: he will be on next week and he will be

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Speaker 2: on wait for it, election day. Election day is a

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Speaker 2: Wednesday our time, so on that day I anticipate the

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Speaker 2: podcast could be a little late in coming out, but

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Speaker 2: think about it, it usually goes out mid afternoon. Now

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Speaker 2: in mid afternoon, it's around what time is it about

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Speaker 2: eleven pm on the East coast, So it could all

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Speaker 2: slide together very well, but her final details are yet

992
01:08:33,253 --> 01:08:37,573
Speaker 2: to be sorted. I saw Carmela Harris and her running

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Speaker 2: mate at a rally coming together on stage in what

994
01:08:40,773 --> 01:08:44,093
Speaker 2: could only be called a political pantomime, and it was

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Speaker 2: embarrassing to see, you think, I thought it couldn't get worse,

996
01:08:48,333 --> 01:08:50,613
Speaker 2: but it did. When they spoke, they seemed to talk

997
01:08:50,613 --> 01:08:54,773
Speaker 2: about themselves first in such a cringe worthy way, so much.

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Speaker 2: They had trouble getting past it with any coherent thought.

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Speaker 2: It was like watching a comedy show on TV where

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Speaker 2: you guess whether the speaker is lying or not or

1001
01:09:06,813 --> 01:09:10,013
Speaker 2: just doesn't know what they're talking about. Now, when Carmala

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01:09:10,133 --> 01:09:14,293
Speaker 2: Harris's face lights up in an interview, you just know

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Speaker 2: she's going to repeat one of her fables and throw

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01:09:18,373 --> 01:09:21,613
Speaker 2: in some fabrications as an extra good at that, Carmala

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01:09:21,653 --> 01:09:23,733
Speaker 2: Harris and her running mate can't seem to get their

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Speaker 2: message across adequately of what's good for the country like Trump.

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01:09:29,853 --> 01:09:35,613
Speaker 2: Maybe the Democrats going woke might go broke. Oh, there's

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Speaker 2: more and more people coming out of the woodwork on

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Speaker 2: both sides of this. I have some references to pass

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Speaker 2: on to you.

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Speaker 4: Shortly, latent Jin says, I believe you'll appreciate this short

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Speaker 4: one minute talk TV UK video where consumer expert Adrian

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Speaker 4: Mills gave one of the greatest arguments for why using

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Speaker 4: cash helps you save money and it's sure and sure

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Speaker 4: it holds its value compared to using cashless methods which

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Speaker 4: banks profit from. In case you have trouble opening the video,

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Speaker 4: here is the transcript. So this is what the consumer

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Speaker 4: experts says. I'll tell you why it's so important that

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Speaker 4: people use cash. For example, I have in front of

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Speaker 4: me a good old fifty pound note. I owe you

1021
01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:21,253
Speaker 4: fifty pounds. I pay you. You go to the hairdresser,

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Speaker 4: You pay your fifty pounds. The hairdresser goes to the cafe,

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Speaker 4: pays the coffee shop owner fifty pounds. The cafe owner

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01:10:29,493 --> 01:10:33,173
Speaker 4: goes to the restaurant owner fifty pounds. The restaurant pays

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Speaker 4: for the linen cleaning fifty pounds. The value of the

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Speaker 4: fifty pounds remains fifty pounds. If, however, I pay you

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Speaker 4: with a credit card straight away, I'm devaluing that fifty

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Speaker 4: pounds because I am paying three percent on average interest

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Speaker 4: to a bank or a society that gives me that card,

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Speaker 4: which is the equivalent of one pound fifty. You then

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Speaker 4: follow that through and everywhere you go, the hairdresser, the

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Speaker 4: coffee shop, the restaurant. If you're paying the card, you're

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Speaker 4: losing one pound fifty every time. So after thirty transactions

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Speaker 4: with cash, you've still got fifty pounds in bad. If

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Speaker 4: you used your credit card, the value is now five

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Speaker 4: pounds because you've paid the bank forty five pounds in fees,

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Speaker 4: and that's why the banks want to encourage you to

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Speaker 4: go cashless. Don't allow it to happen. This is why,

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Speaker 4: says Jin, we shouldn't allow banks or politicians to coerce

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Speaker 4: us into becoming a cashless and CBDC society. Cash is king,

1041
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Speaker 4: cash is freedom. Thanks to your constant reminder Latent regarding

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Speaker 4: the importance of having cash in hand, I've always had

1043
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Speaker 4: about two hundred dollars cash in my wallet just in case.

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Speaker 2: And I congratulate you on that too. And I think

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Speaker 2: that at the very end of our discussion today, the

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Speaker 2: good doctor gave us some thinking material. Well, like I say,

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Speaker 2: right at the very end, he's he's very concerned about

1048
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Speaker 2: where things are heading. And these not alone, missus producer.

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Speaker 2: I've got some two more, but they're so short.

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Speaker 4: You do short one and I was a short one.

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Speaker 2: Oh you okay? Right from Chris. Since education contributes to

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Speaker 2: your podcast subject matter, you may be interested in Twin

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Speaker 2: Oaks charter school, proposed to start next year in green

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Speaker 2: Lane and Auckland. The main difference is the hybrid approach.

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Speaker 2: You know how that works where parents are the teachers

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Speaker 2: for two days a week and the classroom learning for

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Speaker 2: the other three and then gives me some contact details.

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Speaker 2: If I'm want to take it any further, it may

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Speaker 2: well do. And from Jim, I'm looking forward to hearing

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Speaker 2: your USA electoral discussion that no doubt you will have

1061
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Speaker 2: love all your broadcast. Jim, appreciate that. Thank you and

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Speaker 2: you'll get it.

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Speaker 4: And later. From James, I've just listened to your fascinating

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Speaker 4: interview with Michael recton World. This was the first I

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01:12:59,693 --> 01:13:03,773
Speaker 4: had heard about the ABC's whistleblower regarding the debate. I

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Speaker 4: did a Google search on the topic, and surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 4: despite lots of overseas coverage, I could not find any

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Speaker 4: local reports on the matter, despite it being big news.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I haven't looked hard enough, so I'll eat my

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Speaker 4: hat if I'm wrong. Otherwise, it's just another reason to

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Speaker 4: look for information and use from other sources and take

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Speaker 4: what we see at six o'clock each night with a

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Speaker 4: grain of salt.

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Speaker 2: That's from James, James, Thank you, missus, producer, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Until next week, Thanks Leighton, it will last week. In

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Speaker 2: the Putting Together Podcast two fifty six, I made yet

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Speaker 2: another comment on how much of interest there was that

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Speaker 2: particular morning that I couldn't cover. Couple that with inquiries

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Speaker 2: about various issues and what books i'd recommend, it occurred

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Speaker 2: that I could and should share information more willingly. Protecting

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Speaker 2: your sources has always been well important to varying degrees

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Speaker 2: in the media, but it no longer matters so much.

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Speaker 2: I came to the conclusion that information sharing is not

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Speaker 2: any beneficial, but is necessary. Well, I've known that for

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Speaker 2: a while, but haven't activated on it as much as

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Speaker 2: I might have. Well, of course, being first with well

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Speaker 2: being first, people like to be first, doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: it's in. Competition builds when somebody invents something, or says something,

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Speaker 2: or writes something or whatever, and you lose track of

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Speaker 2: who was responsible for it. But being first is not vital,

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Speaker 2: but it helps. I decided that I would introduce a well,

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Speaker 2: not a segment, but maybe it is. Maybe we'll call

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Speaker 2: it that, in which I will share some sources of information,

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Speaker 2: sources of opinion, fact whatever that I think will be

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01:15:09,093 --> 01:15:12,173
Speaker 2: of interest to well some, not everybody all at once,

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Speaker 2: but some from week to week. And as it happens,

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Speaker 2: the first email that I opened up this morning was

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Speaker 2: from Jeffrey Tucker. This wasn't personal this is Jeffrey Tucker

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Speaker 2: writing his column for the Epic Times. But the interesting

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Speaker 2: thing to me was I believed that it was only

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Speaker 2: last week that I read a letter from a listener,

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Speaker 2: a very loyal one, i might add, who commented that

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Tucker and George Friedman were two people that had

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Speaker 2: helped direct his understanding and appreciation of geopolitics and other

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Speaker 2: matters of life. And what is the column in the

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Speaker 2: Epic Times called from Jeffrey Tucker? Why is the age

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Speaker 2: of information disappointing intriguing her? It must have been remarkable

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Speaker 2: to be alive between eighteen eighty and nineteen ten. The

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Speaker 2: explosion of technology, then called the practical arts was astonishing.

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Speaker 2: In the course of this time, we saw the commercializer

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Speaker 2: of steel that made possible huge bridges to transverse large

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Speaker 2: bodies of water for the first time, and allow the

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Speaker 2: building of skyscrapers that change cityscapes. And suddenly you could

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Speaker 2: go anywhere and do anything. Then there's a whole list

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Speaker 2: of things that wants a short list. But of things

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Speaker 2: that he refers to, there was the advent of electricity

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Speaker 2: to light up cities and homes. There was internal combustion

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Speaker 2: that allowed for motor cars that change travel and the

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Speaker 2: practice of farming. There was flight, which made not fleeing aeroplanes,

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Speaker 2: which made the seemingly impossible possible. Communications changed first with

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Speaker 2: the telegraph and then the telehne, which introduced the real

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Speaker 2: first upgrade in information spread since the handwritten letter carried

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Speaker 2: on horseback. And there was so much more, including indoor plumbing,

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Speaker 2: the wide availability of books, the bringing of precision time

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Speaker 2: into the home with commercial clocks and then watches, the

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Speaker 2: recording and eventual broadcast of sale, and so much more. Now,

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Speaker 2: the point that Jeffrey Tucker makes is a very important

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Speaker 2: and that is that information doesn't mean wisdom that takes

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Speaker 2: more input. But the important fact of this particular column

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Speaker 2: this morning, I think is obvious. So every week as

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01:17:26,253 --> 01:17:30,333
Speaker 2: part of the podcast, I'll introduce you to some sources

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01:17:30,373 --> 01:17:34,013
Speaker 2: that I think are worthy of follow up entirely up

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Speaker 2: to you, obviously, Let's begin with one of my favorites,

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Speaker 2: of course, Victor Davis Hansen. In just a second. First,

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Speaker 2: here is a headline over seven hundred deep status join

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Speaker 2: Dick Cheney, Iran and IRS union in endorsing Harris in

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Speaker 2: a surprise to No. One seven hundred and forty one

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Speaker 2: high ranking national security officials have endorsed Kamala Harris's bid

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Speaker 2: for the White House, with some suggesting that former President

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01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:13,373
Speaker 2: Trump has a scary authoritarian streak. Now that's only by

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Speaker 2: way of introduction. I'm not going to read anymore, but

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Speaker 2: let's get to let's get to a reaction to this

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01:18:20,173 --> 01:18:24,053
Speaker 2: from Victor Davis Hanson. Are so called experts and their

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01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:29,053
Speaker 2: silly group speak letters. One of the most prepasitorous recent

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01:18:29,093 --> 01:18:32,773
Speaker 2: trends has been the political use of supposed expert letters

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01:18:32,813 --> 01:18:39,013
Speaker 2: and declarations of support from so called authorities. These pretentious

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01:18:39,293 --> 01:18:44,973
Speaker 2: testimonies of purported professionalism are different from the usual inane

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01:18:45,173 --> 01:18:49,173
Speaker 2: candidate endorsements from celebrities and politicos. Instead, well, if you

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Speaker 2: want to find out you you'll find it at am

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01:18:53,933 --> 01:19:00,973
Speaker 2: greatness dot com. Am greatness dot com are so called

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01:19:01,093 --> 01:19:06,093
Speaker 2: experts and their silly group speak letters. Published on the

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01:19:06,493 --> 01:19:12,173
Speaker 2: twenty third of September, well worthy of digesting then speaking

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01:19:12,173 --> 01:19:14,693
Speaker 2: of media and sharing information and getting it right, etc.

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Speaker 2: There's an article ausored by Frank Mela m E.

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Speaker 3: L E.

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Speaker 2: Frank Mela via Real Clear Politics, Young America is right

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Speaker 2: to reject traditional news. It's become a truism in the

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01:19:31,893 --> 01:19:35,013
Speaker 2: past few years that younger people get their news predominantly,

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01:19:35,053 --> 01:19:38,253
Speaker 2: if not entirely, from social media. Turns out it's true,

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01:19:38,693 --> 01:19:41,773
Speaker 2: but it may not be an information crisis as some

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01:19:41,813 --> 01:19:45,093
Speaker 2: of you would have thought. Of course, as an old

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Speaker 2: time newspaper man, I was one of those who thought

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01:19:47,573 --> 01:19:49,653
Speaker 2: that the country was not being served well by this

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01:19:49,853 --> 01:19:54,973
Speaker 2: increasing dependency on unvettered news sources and the implied repudiation

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Speaker 2: of traditional media. And I'll leave that one there too,

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Speaker 2: Frank melay Mi E l E real clear politics. All

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Speaker 2: you need to do, really is is search young America

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01:20:07,973 --> 01:20:13,533
Speaker 2: is right to reject traditional news. Frank Mila next, and

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Speaker 2: just this concentrates mainly on aspects of the United States

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Speaker 2: and the influence. And this is the important part as

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Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, the influence that America has. It

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Speaker 2: is still the richest country in the world. It is

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Speaker 2: the most influential country in the world when it chooses

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Speaker 2: to be the moment they're lacking somewhat in a number

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Speaker 2: of areas. The Dangers of Uncontrolled Immigration by Raphael Madagi B. A. R.

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Speaker 2: D Aji brd Aji as of June seven, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: for the first time in the history of Spain, the

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Speaker 2: prison population of young people born abroad exceeds that of

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Speaker 2: young Spaniards in prison at a ratio of sixty to forty.

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Speaker 2: If we include those born in Spain with Spanish nationality

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Speaker 2: but to foreign parents, that ratio pockets to over seventy

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Speaker 2: over thirty. Now, this is a six page article, the

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Speaker 2: point being that it covers much more than you might expect,

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Speaker 2: and there are lessons in it for every country on Earth,

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Speaker 2: well every country that people want to move to in

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Speaker 2: great numbers. The dangers of uncontrolled immigration a Spain and

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01:21:32,453 --> 01:21:36,293
Speaker 2: Europe are suffering from a far worse case than countries

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Speaker 2: like New Zealand. But New Zealand has things to learn.

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Speaker 2: We have things to learn from the experience of these

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Speaker 2: other events in other countries. America and the Future of

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Speaker 2: Globalism by Edward Ring, again from am Greatness. If globalization

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Speaker 2: is the economic integration of nations in a world where

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Speaker 2: technology has all but a raised once formidable barriers to

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Speaker 2: long distance communication and transportation, globalism is its cultural and

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Speaker 2: ideological counterpart. Globalism, like communism or neol liberalism, is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Is beautiful. You might walk there when described in these

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Speaker 2: abstract terms and not rooted in the real world anyway. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's a four page article, and again it's worthy of

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Speaker 2: your reading. Stockman David who was involved first of all

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Speaker 2: with the Reagan administration. Stockman, what the coming US election

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Speaker 2: means for America's physical future. Now, why would I include that? Well, A,

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01:22:39,773 --> 01:22:46,293
Speaker 2: because it's interesting. Be because considering the US's importance in

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Speaker 2: the world. It was in the financial world. It has

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Speaker 2: an effect on the rest of the world, and that

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01:22:53,493 --> 01:22:56,013
Speaker 2: includes New Zealand of course. And these are things that

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Speaker 2: I think we miss from time to time, the effect

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Speaker 2: that something that happens in an important part of the

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Speaker 2: world will have here you might you might fall into

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Speaker 2: that category of missing the point, but some people do.

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Speaker 2: And then finally, for this week, the un Machinery against

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Speaker 2: Human Rights an article that runs eleven pages from the

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Speaker 2: Brownstone Institute Brownstone dot org and co authored by our

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Speaker 2: friend David Bell. And this is essential, I think for

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Speaker 2: all of us to be aware of. I read everything

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Speaker 2: that David Bell is responsible for. He's been on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: as you would know, on three or four occasions, and

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01:23:38,493 --> 01:23:41,893
Speaker 2: he is a man of some considerable wisdom. He's Australian

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Speaker 2: by the way, not American, or that he lives in

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Speaker 2: Texas and on some occasions I'm envious. Would you like

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Speaker 2: one more? The Sins of the Old Gray Lady or

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01:23:52,333 --> 01:23:55,453
Speaker 2: Why the Press Hates You? I may have made mention

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Speaker 2: of this somewhere in a podcast in passing, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: The Sins of the Gray Lady or Why the Press

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Speaker 2: Hates You? Authored by j header p ed E r

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Speaker 2: zay z An via Real Clear Politics, and the following

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Speaker 2: is a chapter from the recently released book Against the

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Speaker 2: Corporate Media. Forty two Ways the Press Hateship? Again worthy

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Speaker 2: of attention or I wouldn't include it? There is one

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Speaker 2: more September twelve. The Leviathan has not been tamed. The

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01:24:30,773 --> 01:24:36,573
Speaker 2: Leviathan has not been tamed. For forty years, US courts

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Speaker 2: have deferred to unelected bureaucrats for the interpretation of ambiguous statutes.

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01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:46,973
Speaker 2: The principle of Chevron deference is the legal basis of

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Speaker 2: the administrative state, the extra constitutional rule by experts that

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Speaker 2: provides the legal framework and the worker day operations of

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Speaker 2: the woke regime. You can see why I have thrown that,

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Speaker 2: thrown that in. The Leviathan has not been tamed and

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Speaker 2: we are in a position to be able to appreciate

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Speaker 2: that now. I'd be very interested to hear from those

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Speaker 2: of you who might follow up on any of those

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01:25:13,013 --> 01:25:14,933
Speaker 2: and whether or not you think this is worthy of

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01:25:15,613 --> 01:25:19,213
Speaker 2: a tension each week I do so I shall continue,

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01:25:19,693 --> 01:25:23,933
Speaker 2: but your your thoughts would be most welcome. Laton at

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01:25:23,973 --> 01:25:28,133
Speaker 2: newstalkzeb dot co dot nz or Carolyn at Newstalk zb

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01:25:28,293 --> 01:25:30,773
Speaker 2: dot co dot NZB. And I keep saying that we

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01:25:30,813 --> 01:25:33,053
Speaker 2: love getting your mail. That really takes us out for

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Speaker 2: podcasts two hundred and fifty seven, So the only thing

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Speaker 2: left to say is, as always, thank you for listening

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Speaker 2: and we shall talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for more from Newstalk ZEDB. Listen live on

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