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Speaker 3: Hello, good afternoon, Cure. Welcome into the Saturday edition of

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB for October eighteen. Happy

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Speaker 3: sixty ninth birthday to eighteen time tennis major winner Martina Navratilova.

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Speaker 3: Happy forty eighth to aar Whites legend Ryan Nelson. I'm

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine. The show is produced today by Isaiah Aberdingo.

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Speaker 3: We're here talking sport until three o'clock. How could a

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Speaker 3: Otago going? There's the siren, here's the crowd. Bet this

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Speaker 3: time the hasty and it's hitting the touch and Paul.

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Speaker 4: William says, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Otago.

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Speaker 5: That's through to their fast MPC Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: They are loving it down there into the NPC final,

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Speaker 3: playing some apps, absolutely scintillating rugby in front of ever

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Speaker 3: growing crowds. The glory days coming back to the South.

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Speaker 3: Otago halfback Dylan Pledger has been turning plenty of hair

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Speaker 3: teas on the show this afternoon, king to hear from

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Speaker 3: you as well Otago fans on the side of yours

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Speaker 3: and whether you can go all the way and win

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Speaker 3: the NPC for the first time since nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Southern rugby men, Jamie Joseph will lead us

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Speaker 3: off today he selected his All Blacks fifteen squad for

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Speaker 3: the upcoming Northern Tour. He's head coach of course, of

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks fifteen this year and next. Now Dylan

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Speaker 3: Pledger isn't in that side, despite a bit of clamor

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Speaker 3: for him to be included. Going to find out why

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Speaker 3: and what the role of the All Blacks fifteen is.

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Speaker 3: Jamie Joseph with shortly came to know from you as well,

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Speaker 3: what the purpose of this team is, what you think

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Speaker 3: it should represent, what it is there to do. I've

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Speaker 3: want to talk about the Greatest Rivalry Tour confirmed yesterday

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks and Barking on a full tour of

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Speaker 3: South Africa next year for the first time in thirty years.

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Speaker 3: How excited are you about this? Other matters around today,

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Speaker 3: the silver Ferns have been outclassed sixty nine to fifty

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Speaker 3: two by the Australian Diamonds and the opening Constellation Cup

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Speaker 3: netball test in Melbourne, New Zealand only behind by four

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Speaker 3: at three quarter time but outscored twenty four to eleven

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Speaker 3: in the final quarter. Coach of at McCausland Jury on

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Speaker 3: the show after one o'clock to break it down for

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Speaker 3: us your reflections as well netball fans. So much noise

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Speaker 3: off the court at the moment. It was actually quite nice.

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Speaker 3: I thought to watch some netball on the court last night.

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Speaker 3: How is the internal dynamic going? How are they keeping

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Speaker 3: that outside noise? Awake of at mccauseland Jury after one.

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Speaker 3: The New A League men season underway this weekend. Both

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Speaker 3: Auckland FC and Wellington Phoenix open their campaigns tonight. Got

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Speaker 3: a big football hour for you after two today. Auckland

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Speaker 3: FC away at Melbourne victory. Their coach Steve Corriker and

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Speaker 3: all the way over in Perth to take on the glory.

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Speaker 3: Their coach John Calotaliano and goalkeeper Josh Olaway Emmy are

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Speaker 3: also along. Ossie correspondent Adam Peacock in his regular slot

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Speaker 3: around one forty five, and we're going to play a

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Speaker 3: collect the winnings if it comes in. But a live sport.

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Speaker 3: This afternoon the Meads Cup Final and the Heartland Championship

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Speaker 3: upper echelon of the Heartland Championship mid Canterbury against Thames

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Speaker 3: Valley in Ashburton from five past two. Just an appointment

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Speaker 3: four hours from now, after the Midday News tomorrow, lou

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Speaker 3: Vincent is with us for an extended chat on his

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Speaker 3: black Caps career, including a century on Test Day bill

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Speaker 3: against Australia, being lured into match fixing, his life ban

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Speaker 3: that he did. Some incredible insight from lou Vincent tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: including what he was required to do as a spot fixer.

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Speaker 3: Eight capped test players and a group of rising young

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Speaker 3: stars have been included in the thirty man All Blacks

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Speaker 3: the sixteenth of November. All Blacks fifteen head coaches Jamie

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Speaker 3: Joseph who joins us now. Jamie, thanks for your time

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. Tell us about the process you went through.

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Speaker 3: How did you go about selecting your All Blacks fifteen squad.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's the start of the APC.

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Speaker 8: We had a big list of players that was given

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Speaker 3: When you're selecting younger guys with no international experience, Jamie,

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Speaker 9: There's a number of things I guess, and as coaches,

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Speaker 2: For me, really has to have the potential.

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Speaker 9: Mentally and physically, and I can't identify what I see

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Speaker 2: So you know, things like resilience.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's more than having a work ethic, and

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Speaker 9: So those kind of those kind of two attributes to

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Speaker 8: You know that that players need to have the ability

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Speaker 2: In look, we've got a really sharp tour.

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Speaker 9: We don't have a lot of time to come together,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's you know, like we're going over there and

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Speaker 9: for some players and some other players it's just a

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Speaker 9: I guess as a coaching team.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of clamor for Otago half back

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Speaker 3: Dylan Pledger. A lot of people thought he should have

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: He's just when he's had his first NPC season, And

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Speaker 9: guys that were selecting who's competing with in Fuckatava, Preston

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Speaker 9: I think it's a it's a different context, you know.

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Speaker 9: it's just a tough competition in that position.

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Speaker 3: Just picking up on Fatava, a guy you know well

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Speaker 3: Does Fatava still have All Blacks ambitions despite now being

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: I haven't talked specifically to Flower recently about his ambitions,

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Speaker 9: but I know the boy well obviously, and there's no

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Speaker 9: doubt in my mind that he wants to play at

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Speaker 3: It's a short, sharp tour, just a three games, So

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no guarantees said, like one man data is

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Speaker 9: to the group of players that we think can go

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Speaker 9: no man dad that everyone has to get a certain

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Speaker 9: amount of game time. I mean, we're talking about the

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Speaker 9: second best team in the country.

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Speaker 2: But we're possible.

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Speaker 9: And you mentioned earlier on around the potential four blocks

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Speaker 9: to drop down late in the week, and so those

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Speaker 9: are the kinds of those are the kinds of things

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Speaker 9: that we've got a juggle works as New Zealand fifteen coaches.

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Speaker 3: You haven't named your captain yet. When will you do

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Speaker 3: that and how will you decide who your captain is?

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Speaker 2: There's a few contenders.

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Speaker 9: I think there's there's a couple of guys that are

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Speaker 3: They'll be coming up twelve thirty spear line there. If

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Speaker 3: You know, it's easy to it's easy to back a

433
00:22:19,427 --> 00:22:22,387
Speaker 3: team that, you know, they're almost a team that that

434
00:22:22,427 --> 00:22:25,827
Speaker 3: we remember fondly their old days, and we all want

435
00:22:25,827 --> 00:22:28,787
Speaker 3: them to, you know, to recapture that until they become

436
00:22:28,867 --> 00:22:30,907
Speaker 3: so good they start beating our sides. It's a bit

437
00:22:31,227 --> 00:22:33,027
Speaker 3: it's a bit different, but I think we can. I

438
00:22:33,067 --> 00:22:35,227
Speaker 3: think we can all enjoy what they're doing right now

439
00:22:35,227 --> 00:22:36,907
Speaker 3: because they are a terrific watch.

440
00:22:38,027 --> 00:22:40,227
Speaker 10: Yes. Yeah, I watched the game last night and I

441
00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:43,507
Speaker 10: just thought it was a fantastic game. And and like

442
00:22:43,627 --> 00:22:46,627
Speaker 10: you were saying, with those Texas Cam Miller, I was

443
00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:49,107
Speaker 10: really impressed by him. And you know, I was thinking,

444
00:22:49,107 --> 00:22:51,147
Speaker 10: why isn't this guy in the all black mix and

445
00:22:52,147 --> 00:22:54,627
Speaker 10: because yea, as soon as he kicked that first goal

446
00:22:54,747 --> 00:22:56,907
Speaker 10: as well. It was straight down the middle, you know,

447
00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:59,067
Speaker 10: and I thought, oh, this guy is on straight away

448
00:22:59,107 --> 00:23:03,307
Speaker 10: with the kicking, and and he did. But yeah, I

449
00:23:03,707 --> 00:23:06,867
Speaker 10: think of him like I think of him like Tom

450
00:23:06,987 --> 00:23:11,387
Speaker 10: Christie for the for Canterbury and the Crusaders, just that

451
00:23:11,507 --> 00:23:13,867
Speaker 10: sort of like you said, the quiet achiever that goes

452
00:23:13,907 --> 00:23:16,227
Speaker 10: about and next thing you're thinking, gee, didn't he have

453
00:23:16,267 --> 00:23:18,507
Speaker 10: a great game by the end of it, you know

454
00:23:18,627 --> 00:23:21,347
Speaker 10: sort of thing. So yeah, I hope in the future

455
00:23:21,387 --> 00:23:24,347
Speaker 10: that he might be considered. And of course the other

456
00:23:24,387 --> 00:23:27,427
Speaker 10: two boys that I have no doubt are going to

457
00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:30,947
Speaker 10: end up all blacks as the half back and the

458
00:23:31,027 --> 00:23:34,027
Speaker 10: fella number seven, is it? I just forget their names

459
00:23:34,387 --> 00:23:35,067
Speaker 10: from from.

460
00:23:35,427 --> 00:23:39,067
Speaker 3: From Otago Yah, yeah, yeah, Dylan, Yeah, Dylan Pledger and

461
00:23:39,187 --> 00:23:42,107
Speaker 3: Lucas Casey as yours your man at open side.

462
00:23:42,787 --> 00:23:45,867
Speaker 10: Yeah, they were great. And watching that game last night too,

463
00:23:45,907 --> 00:23:48,387
Speaker 10: I did did take me back to the old house

464
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,747
Speaker 10: of paying days, you know, in house Attained, and I

465
00:23:50,787 --> 00:23:53,787
Speaker 10: did think of those players ob Tine Randall and Josh

466
00:23:53,787 --> 00:23:57,387
Speaker 10: Crimefield when and Jeff Wilson when O Targo had that

467
00:23:57,667 --> 00:24:01,347
Speaker 10: that those golden periods. So Yeah, it was fantastic. Yeah,

468
00:24:01,347 --> 00:24:04,147
Speaker 10: I really looking forward to this game tonight and then

469
00:24:04,227 --> 00:24:07,067
Speaker 10: the final will be great, I think with MPC, but

470
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:09,907
Speaker 10: I'm liking I like the idea of this All Black

471
00:24:09,947 --> 00:24:13,827
Speaker 10: fifteen team to I've done enough. I fully understand. It

472
00:24:13,867 --> 00:24:17,267
Speaker 10: was interesting listening to Jamie Joseph. I'd like to hear

473
00:24:17,307 --> 00:24:22,147
Speaker 10: that interview again, but I think it sounds like it's

474
00:24:22,347 --> 00:24:24,467
Speaker 10: going to be a feeder team to give guys a

475
00:24:24,627 --> 00:24:26,947
Speaker 10: chance and give them game time and stuff like that,

476
00:24:26,987 --> 00:24:28,027
Speaker 10: and I like that idea.

477
00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:30,627
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I do too. I think, you know,

478
00:24:30,747 --> 00:24:34,627
Speaker 3: having having a team right there, I mean they're in

479
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:38,027
Speaker 3: the same hemisphere at times. I think they're even in

480
00:24:38,067 --> 00:24:40,987
Speaker 3: the same the same country. Once the All Blacks get

481
00:24:41,027 --> 00:24:43,707
Speaker 3: to England, they'll be in the same country as as

482
00:24:43,747 --> 00:24:47,307
Speaker 3: the All Blacks fifteen, So it's an easy transition to

483
00:24:47,307 --> 00:24:49,667
Speaker 3: get players going in both directions, as I say, not

484
00:24:49,747 --> 00:24:53,347
Speaker 3: just in one direction, but in both directions. And look,

485
00:24:53,427 --> 00:24:57,147
Speaker 3: I also think that they probably I mean, being professional

486
00:24:57,227 --> 00:24:59,667
Speaker 3: rugby players, they want to win their games as well.

487
00:24:59,747 --> 00:25:02,107
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like you. I'm looking forward to seeing

488
00:25:02,107 --> 00:25:05,067
Speaker 3: how they go, and I like you are enjoying Otago.

489
00:25:05,347 --> 00:25:07,187
Speaker 3: I know you want your cannib team to win tonight,

490
00:25:07,227 --> 00:25:10,227
Speaker 3: Phil and set up a final in christ Church next weekend.

491
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,187
Speaker 3: I know Otago, if that's what they have to do,

492
00:25:13,267 --> 00:25:16,507
Speaker 3: will have no fear coming up the road because as

493
00:25:16,507 --> 00:25:18,747
Speaker 3: we remember, they were the ones who took the shield

494
00:25:19,107 --> 00:25:22,827
Speaker 3: off Canterbury in christ Church not too long ago. Always

495
00:25:22,827 --> 00:25:25,027
Speaker 3: good to chat, Phil, Thanks mate, Hello Simon.

496
00:25:25,667 --> 00:25:26,627
Speaker 11: Gooday, how are you going?

497
00:25:27,147 --> 00:25:27,827
Speaker 3: Very good? Simon?

498
00:25:28,707 --> 00:25:32,747
Speaker 11: Hey, it's not so much for me about about who

499
00:25:32,827 --> 00:25:36,267
Speaker 11: hasn't been selected. It's more about a few people that

500
00:25:36,747 --> 00:25:39,787
Speaker 11: have been that have been about confusing all year when

501
00:25:39,787 --> 00:25:41,987
Speaker 11: you've got a NYE in the future, and that's people

502
00:25:42,027 --> 00:25:45,627
Speaker 11: like Jacobson, Rico and Antonline of Brown who seemed to

503
00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:51,307
Speaker 11: be out of favor, getting old and still making the

504
00:25:51,387 --> 00:25:57,707
Speaker 11: All Black team versus maybe developing some young talent. And

505
00:25:57,747 --> 00:26:00,147
Speaker 11: I just don't really understand what this strategy is in

506
00:26:00,147 --> 00:26:00,627
Speaker 11: that regard.

507
00:26:01,547 --> 00:26:05,027
Speaker 3: I think the strategy is conservatism, Simon, if I'm honest,

508
00:26:05,787 --> 00:26:09,747
Speaker 3: I think it's a conservatism that has been probably a

509
00:26:09,747 --> 00:26:12,827
Speaker 3: feature of Scott Robertson's time as All Blacks head coach,

510
00:26:12,827 --> 00:26:16,147
Speaker 3: even though he's blooded nineteen New guys. I think this

511
00:26:16,827 --> 00:26:22,267
Speaker 3: tour party is a demonstration of the conservatism that he

512
00:26:22,987 --> 00:26:25,947
Speaker 3: selects with. And I just wonder, mate, whether this might

513
00:26:26,027 --> 00:26:29,347
Speaker 3: be the last, the last time we see some of

514
00:26:29,387 --> 00:26:32,587
Speaker 3: the guys you've mentioned. Look, I just don't know what

515
00:26:32,627 --> 00:26:34,827
Speaker 3: the future is for a guy like Seva Reese. Is

516
00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:36,987
Speaker 3: he going to be at the next Rugby World Cup.

517
00:26:37,907 --> 00:26:40,387
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he will be. Luke Jacobson perhaps

518
00:26:40,387 --> 00:26:43,267
Speaker 3: the same Anton Lennett Brown seems to have been overtaken

519
00:26:43,307 --> 00:26:46,307
Speaker 3: in terms of the midfield pecking order now. So while

520
00:26:46,627 --> 00:26:49,267
Speaker 3: while I like the fact that there's been some loyalty showing,

521
00:26:49,747 --> 00:26:51,947
Speaker 3: I just wonder whether from next year on, with a

522
00:26:51,987 --> 00:26:55,067
Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup looming, that if guys aren't going to

523
00:26:55,107 --> 00:26:56,907
Speaker 3: be at the World Cup, then they're not in the

524
00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:58,067
Speaker 3: All Blacks.

525
00:26:58,387 --> 00:27:01,147
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, And no disrespect to those kinds of great No, no,

526
00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:03,147
Speaker 12: not at all, not at all.

527
00:27:03,587 --> 00:27:06,787
Speaker 11: But we've got a northern tour that's got Wales and Stufftland.

528
00:27:06,987 --> 00:27:09,987
Speaker 11: You know, that would be an ideal time to really

529
00:27:10,027 --> 00:27:14,547
Speaker 11: be to be planning some new players. But anyway, that

530
00:27:14,667 --> 00:27:15,947
Speaker 11: was just the only thing I wanted to say.

531
00:27:15,987 --> 00:27:17,987
Speaker 3: Really, no, good on you, Simon, and I think you

532
00:27:18,147 --> 00:27:19,747
Speaker 3: to make a salient point. And I've heard a lot

533
00:27:19,747 --> 00:27:22,587
Speaker 3: of people talk about it as well, and the Conservatism

534
00:27:22,627 --> 00:27:26,907
Speaker 3: also brings with it just a bit of a sluggishness

535
00:27:26,907 --> 00:27:31,187
Speaker 3: when it comes to reaching and what seems like an

536
00:27:31,187 --> 00:27:35,067
Speaker 3: obvious solution. And the specific example of give the Year

537
00:27:35,107 --> 00:27:38,427
Speaker 3: is Leroy Carter. Leroy Carter was, in the eyes of

538
00:27:38,467 --> 00:27:40,587
Speaker 3: most people, one of the best two or three wingers

539
00:27:40,587 --> 00:27:44,467
Speaker 3: in Super rugby this year, really really good for the

540
00:27:44,547 --> 00:27:49,307
Speaker 3: Chiefs every time he played, added energy, enthusiasm, vigor, pace, power,

541
00:27:49,587 --> 00:27:53,507
Speaker 3: good on defense, all that stuff. And he wasn't selected

542
00:27:53,547 --> 00:27:56,467
Speaker 3: in the All Blacks initially for the French series, was

543
00:27:56,507 --> 00:27:59,787
Speaker 3: brought in his injury cover to go over to Argentina

544
00:28:00,547 --> 00:28:03,507
Speaker 3: and didn't actually have his All Black Staybut until they

545
00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:08,267
Speaker 3: got back and there was that deboot in that and

546
00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:11,627
Speaker 3: that abiration that was the lost to South Africa in Wellington,

547
00:28:11,627 --> 00:28:14,227
Speaker 3: he probably actually one of the guys who emerged with

548
00:28:14,347 --> 00:28:19,907
Speaker 3: any credit from that. But then he kept his place.

549
00:28:20,587 --> 00:28:23,707
Speaker 3: He played against Australia in both of those test matches

550
00:28:24,827 --> 00:28:28,747
Speaker 3: in Auckland and again in Perth and has made absolutely

551
00:28:28,787 --> 00:28:33,227
Speaker 3: every post winner. And we've got there, We've got to

552
00:28:33,267 --> 00:28:35,107
Speaker 3: the point where ow Leroy Carter is one of our

553
00:28:35,107 --> 00:28:37,267
Speaker 3: best wingers in the All Blacks. But it just took

554
00:28:37,267 --> 00:28:42,107
Speaker 3: a little bit of time to get here because other players,

555
00:28:42,107 --> 00:28:44,787
Speaker 3: the likes of Severa Reese, Riquo Jowane, who played a

556
00:28:44,787 --> 00:28:46,787
Speaker 3: lot on the wing in the early part of the season,

557
00:28:46,827 --> 00:28:49,627
Speaker 3: were kind of persevered with. And like I say, loyalty

558
00:28:49,867 --> 00:28:52,347
Speaker 3: is a very good trait, a very good trait for

559
00:28:52,387 --> 00:28:54,827
Speaker 3: a coach, because it gives confidence to players that they're

560
00:28:54,827 --> 00:28:56,347
Speaker 3: not just going to be put on the team and

561
00:28:56,787 --> 00:29:01,267
Speaker 3: at the first sniff of trouble dropped. I do like loyalty,

562
00:29:02,427 --> 00:29:06,467
Speaker 3: but the overplayed strength is the weakness, the overplaying of

563
00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:10,707
Speaker 3: loyalty as conservatism, and it prevents you're getting to the

564
00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:15,227
Speaker 3: place you should perhaps get to earlier. Leroy Carter's the

565
00:29:15,267 --> 00:29:18,547
Speaker 3: hot hand should have been playing before that first Test

566
00:29:18,587 --> 00:29:20,747
Speaker 3: against South Africa. Anyway, here we are, Simon, good to

567
00:29:20,827 --> 00:29:22,867
Speaker 3: chat to you, mate, Thanks for taking the time to call. Hey.

568
00:29:22,867 --> 00:29:25,747
Speaker 13: Mark, Okay, how are you very good?

569
00:29:25,787 --> 00:29:25,987
Speaker 14: Mark?

570
00:29:26,027 --> 00:29:26,707
Speaker 3: How are you mate?

571
00:29:26,707 --> 00:29:29,667
Speaker 14: I Mark, You'll be offter, You'll be off to that.

572
00:29:29,587 --> 00:29:32,547
Speaker 3: Wonderful little stadium of yours tonight to watch your boys

573
00:29:32,587 --> 00:29:33,467
Speaker 3: against Hawks Bay.

574
00:29:34,827 --> 00:29:36,187
Speaker 13: Can we buy twenty point.

575
00:29:37,787 --> 00:29:38,227
Speaker 3: Twenty?

576
00:29:38,387 --> 00:29:38,667
Speaker 12: Mark?

577
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:41,147
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, you know what they could win by

578
00:29:41,227 --> 00:29:43,507
Speaker 3: twenty You're right, they could they're a pretty good team

579
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:44,347
Speaker 3: here they are.

580
00:29:44,827 --> 00:29:48,867
Speaker 13: Are you one thing about the Black fifteen? Even hard

581
00:29:48,907 --> 00:29:51,787
Speaker 13: locked to be in that even holding the tackle tackle bags,

582
00:29:51,827 --> 00:29:51,987
Speaker 13: you know.

583
00:29:54,467 --> 00:29:56,267
Speaker 3: You'd be good at that mark. I know you hold

584
00:29:56,267 --> 00:29:57,907
Speaker 3: a good tackle bag, mate, you'd be good at that.

585
00:29:58,027 --> 00:30:02,987
Speaker 13: You know, because some dominant gardener and or then they'll

586
00:30:03,027 --> 00:30:06,307
Speaker 13: be fantastic and or black fifting, they'll even nixt time

587
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:13,027
Speaker 13: dominic gardner and ah in number six for cany callaher,

588
00:30:13,267 --> 00:30:16,667
Speaker 13: he'll be They are just improven, improven improvement each week

589
00:30:16,707 --> 00:30:20,387
Speaker 13: for Cannery and by Crocky he'll be a good All

590
00:30:20,387 --> 00:30:23,507
Speaker 13: Black fifteen. I'm looking forward to actually plenty.

591
00:30:23,787 --> 00:30:25,547
Speaker 3: I am too. I'm just having to look here at

592
00:30:25,587 --> 00:30:27,827
Speaker 3: the Canterbury players in there and given the fact I

593
00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:29,267
Speaker 3: know there are quite a few in the All Blacks,

594
00:30:29,547 --> 00:30:31,827
Speaker 3: but given the season they've had, actually there aren't that

595
00:30:32,027 --> 00:30:35,987
Speaker 3: many Canterbury players actually in the backs. There are Chaffey,

596
00:30:36,067 --> 00:30:40,747
Speaker 3: Huckey's there, Dallas McLeod, Bryden in or is there rom

597
00:30:41,027 --> 00:30:43,747
Speaker 3: and here Brodiy mckellister is there of course, So yeah,

598
00:30:43,787 --> 00:30:46,107
Speaker 3: there's a sprinkling of Canterbury players in there. Are as

599
00:30:46,107 --> 00:30:47,707
Speaker 3: we say, a number in the All Blacks as well,

600
00:30:47,707 --> 00:30:50,747
Speaker 3: but yeah, look, I think you know, like I said before,

601
00:30:50,747 --> 00:30:51,867
Speaker 3: and you might have heard me say this, I think

602
00:30:51,867 --> 00:30:55,627
Speaker 3: everybody outside of the Canterbury region would like Hawks Bay

603
00:30:55,667 --> 00:30:58,467
Speaker 3: to win tonight so that we can have an Otago

604
00:30:58,547 --> 00:31:01,347
Speaker 3: Hawks Bay Final and Dunedin. But it wouldn't be beyond

605
00:31:01,387 --> 00:31:04,347
Speaker 3: the realms of possibility. In fact, it's probably highly likely

606
00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:06,267
Speaker 3: Mark that we're going to be back on your patch

607
00:31:06,507 --> 00:31:07,667
Speaker 3: next Saturday.

608
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,907
Speaker 13: The Kenneby once. Will you be down here for the final?

609
00:31:11,067 --> 00:31:12,427
Speaker 13: You know You're much welcome.

610
00:31:12,147 --> 00:31:14,707
Speaker 3: To Look, I know I'm always welcome there. I love

611
00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:16,627
Speaker 3: my time in christ Church. I'm not going to be

612
00:31:16,707 --> 00:31:19,587
Speaker 3: there for the Super Final next weekend. I've actually had

613
00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:22,227
Speaker 3: a weekend off oddly enough, Mark, which is terrible timing,

614
00:31:22,267 --> 00:31:24,187
Speaker 3: I know, with the NPC Final on. What I can

615
00:31:24,227 --> 00:31:27,027
Speaker 3: tell you, mate, is that we've been in negotiations to

616
00:31:27,107 --> 00:31:30,427
Speaker 3: get to christ Church for Super Round next year and

617
00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:33,027
Speaker 3: Super Rugby when all of those games get played at

618
00:31:33,067 --> 00:31:36,747
Speaker 3: your brand new stadium down there. So I intend to

619
00:31:36,747 --> 00:31:38,307
Speaker 3: be in and around christ Church for out three or

620
00:31:38,347 --> 00:31:41,067
Speaker 3: four days during Super Round next year, so hopefully we

621
00:31:41,107 --> 00:31:41,707
Speaker 3: can catch up.

622
00:31:42,227 --> 00:31:45,067
Speaker 13: We will, Pony, Yeah, you going to Phoenix tonight, Piny

623
00:31:45,507 --> 00:31:46,107
Speaker 13: go to Phoenix.

624
00:31:46,107 --> 00:31:48,507
Speaker 3: Indeed, Mark, I agree with you, mate, Yes, all the

625
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:50,467
Speaker 3: way out west you what a big sporting weekend. It

626
00:31:50,547 --> 00:31:54,707
Speaker 3: is a man honestly, it is just couch time. Really.

627
00:31:55,187 --> 00:31:58,107
Speaker 3: If you wanted to, and if you were able to

628
00:31:58,427 --> 00:32:00,187
Speaker 3: and able to get rid of your other commitments, you

629
00:32:00,227 --> 00:32:03,587
Speaker 3: could just basically park up sort of late afternoon tonight

630
00:32:03,627 --> 00:32:06,547
Speaker 3: and just box through. There's so much going on on,

631
00:32:07,267 --> 00:32:10,107
Speaker 3: so much on Mark, always enjoyed chatting to you a

632
00:32:10,107 --> 00:32:12,187
Speaker 3: couple of texts before we move on. When who I

633
00:32:12,187 --> 00:32:16,147
Speaker 3: talk this All Blacks the greatest rivalry tour in a moment,

634
00:32:19,867 --> 00:32:22,427
Speaker 3: Jamie Joseph saying New Zealand fifteen is what we all

635
00:32:22,467 --> 00:32:25,347
Speaker 3: think it should be spoken of in that description. More

636
00:32:25,947 --> 00:32:27,907
Speaker 3: maybe when the media call them that it will change

637
00:32:27,907 --> 00:32:31,347
Speaker 3: the New Zealand rugby marketing brands. I'm quite sure what

638
00:32:31,387 --> 00:32:32,947
Speaker 3: you're getting at there, Scott. Like I know a lot

639
00:32:32,987 --> 00:32:35,787
Speaker 3: of people don't like the fact that the All Blacks

640
00:32:36,827 --> 00:32:41,027
Speaker 3: brand is attached to this All Blacks fifteen and it

641
00:32:41,107 --> 00:32:43,627
Speaker 3: is a marketing tool. As soon as you say all Blacks,

642
00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:48,547
Speaker 3: people get that. We all know that it's effectively the

643
00:32:48,547 --> 00:32:50,947
Speaker 3: next best team. Whether you call it New Zealand day,

644
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:54,867
Speaker 3: whether you call it. You know, I don't know what

645
00:32:54,907 --> 00:32:57,867
Speaker 3: you call it. The All Blacks fifteen is what it's called.

646
00:32:58,067 --> 00:33:01,307
Speaker 3: It adds a bit of gravitas to what the team

647
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Speaker 3: is overseas, but in the eyes of some people and

648
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Speaker 3: I get this, it dilutes the All Blacks brand.

649
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Speaker 15: Look.

650
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Speaker 3: I think those guys going out there all were black

651
00:33:10,627 --> 00:33:15,427
Speaker 3: in the All Blacks fifteen will be absolutely determined to

652
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Speaker 3: make sure that they uphold that brand seventeen away from

653
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Speaker 3: one back in a moment on Weekend.

654
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Speaker 7: Sport, You be the TMO.

655
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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

656
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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pain and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's

657
00:33:30,747 --> 00:33:32,947
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Dogs there'd.

658
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Speaker 3: Be fourteen to one couple of text to mop up

659
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Speaker 3: here from Aidenen darned and the best thing about the

660
00:33:36,707 --> 00:33:39,347
Speaker 3: All Blacks fifteen is that it'll add to the positional

661
00:33:39,427 --> 00:33:42,227
Speaker 3: depth razorers looking for the worst thing about the All

662
00:33:42,227 --> 00:33:44,587
Speaker 3: Blacks fifteen is that it will add to the positional

663
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Speaker 3: depth Rugby clubs around the world and through sixty are

664
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Speaker 3: looking for. This will add positional depth and show athlete

665
00:33:51,907 --> 00:33:55,627
Speaker 3: readiness for international rugby, but will also showcase our fringe

666
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:59,187
Speaker 3: talent to the rugby market. Unless News zeal Rugby can

667
00:33:59,267 --> 00:34:01,907
Speaker 3: meaningfully look after the players in the squad, I expect

668
00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:05,787
Speaker 3: will lose several to hire bidders. Cynically, I see this

669
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Speaker 3: as part of the New Zealand Raby All Black brand

670
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Speaker 3: strategy to maximize revenue. Thank you, Aiden, always appreciate your

671
00:34:11,947 --> 00:34:14,747
Speaker 3: thoughts and from Red Hi there. I'm a raiser supporter

672
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Speaker 3: as I sit in the heart of Crusader country, but

673
00:34:18,227 --> 00:34:23,507
Speaker 3: didn't Jamie Joseph Oo's coach confidence with that calmness that

674
00:34:23,587 --> 00:34:27,107
Speaker 3: makes you feel he's got this. I agree read, I agree,

675
00:34:27,347 --> 00:34:32,067
Speaker 3: a very very capable coach and a top quality human.

676
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Speaker 3: Rugby's greatest rivalry and alternating tour between South Africa and

677
00:34:36,347 --> 00:34:39,467
Speaker 3: New Zealand has been confirmed and the tours made in. Yes,

678
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Speaker 3: South Africa will host New Zealand in August and September

679
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. The All Blacks will play the Stormers,

680
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Speaker 3: the Sharks, the Bulls and the Lions to complement a

681
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Speaker 3: four test series against the Springboks. Ellis Park, DHL Stadium

682
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Speaker 3: in Cape Town and FNB Stadium and Johannesburg will host

683
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Speaker 3: the first three tests. Before the fourth at a neutral venue.

684
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six marks thirty years since New Zealand's last

685
00:35:04,827 --> 00:35:07,827
Speaker 3: major tour of South Africa, where they claimed an historic

686
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Speaker 3: first ever Test Series win in the Republic. All Blacks

687
00:35:11,787 --> 00:35:14,187
Speaker 3: fans already checking their calendars and booking their leave to

688
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Speaker 3: go on this tour. Nick Roland is head of Commercial

689
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Speaker 3: for Sports, Travel and Hospitality Group, New Zealand Rugby's official

690
00:35:20,547 --> 00:35:23,987
Speaker 3: travel and hospitality partner. Nick, how much fan interest do

691
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Speaker 3: you expect there to be in this All Blacks tour

692
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Speaker 3: of South Africa next year?

693
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Speaker 16: Put it this way, Piney, We've probably been waiting thirty

694
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Speaker 16: years for this, haven't we meet.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good way of putting it, a very

696
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Speaker 3: good way of it. Yeah, we're definitely seeing a lot

697
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Speaker 3: of interest.

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Speaker 16: I mean, the announcement today is obviously one thing, and

699
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Speaker 16: obviously we're hurry hurrying away at our trying to pull

700
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Speaker 16: some product together, but we've got massive interest already. We've

701
00:35:46,027 --> 00:35:48,747
Speaker 16: had interest even before this news came out today, because

702
00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:51,427
Speaker 16: there's been rumors swelling for a while. So yeah, to

703
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Speaker 16: say there's heaps of interest on the line, there definitely is.

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Speaker 6: We've been waiting thirty years and we're excited about it.

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Speaker 3: How attractive is the history element of South Africa and

706
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Speaker 3: the battles down the years long long ago, getting up

707
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Speaker 3: in the middle of the night and you know, in

708
00:36:05,307 --> 00:36:07,907
Speaker 3: some cases listening to these games on the radio. How

709
00:36:07,947 --> 00:36:11,267
Speaker 3: big is the history element when all Blacks fans plan

710
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Speaker 3: their overseas trips to support the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's huge.

712
00:36:16,627 --> 00:36:17,267
Speaker 13: From our end.

713
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Speaker 16: We obviously we've traveled to South Africa a few times,

714
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Speaker 16: but if you look back over the years, the rivalry

715
00:36:22,587 --> 00:36:25,267
Speaker 16: that these two teams have, you know, they said it

716
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Speaker 16: in the video that they launched this morning with New

717
00:36:27,107 --> 00:36:30,627
Speaker 16: zeald Rugby and South Africa Rugby around, you know, they've.

718
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Speaker 17: Changed the world.

719
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Speaker 16: In some cases, it's not just it's more than sport

720
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Speaker 16: really so.

721
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Speaker 2: And for Kiwi fans, you know.

722
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Speaker 16: It's a kind of ultimate destination going to South Africa

723
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Speaker 16: and getting on to Fari and doing some of those

724
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Speaker 16: other things while you're over there and seeing the beautiful country.

725
00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:46,107
Speaker 16: But absolutely the history between these two teams and we

726
00:36:46,147 --> 00:36:48,107
Speaker 16: can still see it to day and age right like

727
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Speaker 16: it's one all this year and it continues to be

728
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:54,467
Speaker 16: backwards and forwards battle every time they meet.

729
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Speaker 3: So the team's going to be away for the best

730
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Speaker 3: part of six weeks. Will you kind of cut and

731
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Speaker 3: slice packages to suit those who can't be there the

732
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Speaker 3: whole time, Yeah, one hundred percent.

733
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we'll obviously do the full remit of it wants

734
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Speaker 16: to go away. I think it's thirty two days in

735
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Speaker 16: total or thirty one days in total, so we'll obviously

736
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Speaker 16: do that. But yeah, absolutely, we'll have a whole bunch

737
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Speaker 16: of different cuts of what it looks like. Some people

738
00:37:15,187 --> 00:37:16,707
Speaker 16: might just go for the tests, some people might just

739
00:37:16,747 --> 00:37:19,547
Speaker 16: go for the you know, the regional game. So we'll

740
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Speaker 16: have a whole mix in place when we launch products.

741
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Speaker 16: And yeah, it's really exciting because you can not only

742
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Speaker 16: do the games, but while you're there, you might as

743
00:37:26,107 --> 00:37:28,067
Speaker 16: well check out some of the beautiful country that is

744
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Speaker 16: South Africa.

745
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,067
Speaker 3: Indeed, and with such a long tour for those who

746
00:37:31,147 --> 00:37:33,627
Speaker 3: do take up one of the longer options, do you

747
00:37:33,667 --> 00:37:36,827
Speaker 3: need to also keep people occupied if you like, between matches.

748
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Speaker 16: Yeah, some people will choose to do their own thing, obviously.

749
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Speaker 16: I can imagine there's going to be a whole bunch

750
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Speaker 16: of South Africans from New Zealand wanting.

751
00:37:43,267 --> 00:37:44,107
Speaker 2: To go over, et cetera.

752
00:37:45,267 --> 00:37:47,027
Speaker 16: But you know, some people will do their own thing,

753
00:37:47,027 --> 00:37:48,987
Speaker 16: but we'll also be able to occupy them as well.

754
00:37:49,027 --> 00:37:51,187
Speaker 16: It's one of those countries where a lot of people

755
00:37:51,227 --> 00:37:54,667
Speaker 16: don't necessarily like traveling to by themselves, so going as

756
00:37:54,707 --> 00:37:56,627
Speaker 16: part of a big group gives that that safety net,

757
00:37:56,747 --> 00:37:59,067
Speaker 16: gives them the camaraderie with the other all Blacks fans.

758
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Speaker 18: That will be there.

759
00:37:59,507 --> 00:38:01,187
Speaker 9: So we'll we'll do a bit of both.

760
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Speaker 16: But you'll see you'll see definitely that old school tour

761
00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:07,187
Speaker 16: coming to the fore here with so many great matches

762
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Speaker 16: and you know, it's really exciting for that long haul

763
00:38:09,987 --> 00:38:12,907
Speaker 16: stuff to be able to get into, you know, Safari's

764
00:38:12,987 --> 00:38:15,467
Speaker 16: Uptable Mountain over to Robin Island and you know see

765
00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:17,907
Speaker 16: everything in and around the spots that will go to.

766
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Speaker 3: When do you expect the venue for the fourth Test

767
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Speaker 3: to be announced?

768
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure really.

769
00:38:24,267 --> 00:38:27,587
Speaker 16: It's one of those ones where I think that there's

770
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Speaker 16: talks of a few different venues.

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00:38:29,387 --> 00:38:30,987
Speaker 18: They're just trying to nail it completely down.

772
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Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, right.

773
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Speaker 16: Because it's a little bit like Chicago for the Northern

774
00:38:34,787 --> 00:38:37,067
Speaker 16: Tour or the Grand Slam this year.

775
00:38:37,307 --> 00:38:38,267
Speaker 17: It's kind of those ones.

776
00:38:38,307 --> 00:38:41,147
Speaker 16: Some people will just do that, or someone will carry on,

777
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Speaker 16: So it'll be interesting. I'm not sure when that comes out.

778
00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:46,027
Speaker 16: I can't imagine it'll be too far away. But yeah,

779
00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:48,627
Speaker 16: we're obviously looking forward to that as well and seeing

780
00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:50,707
Speaker 16: how many people will kind of kick onto that fourth

781
00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:52,827
Speaker 16: test after being in South Africa for so.

782
00:38:52,787 --> 00:38:55,547
Speaker 3: Long, and have you been inundated with people offering their

783
00:38:55,587 --> 00:38:56,907
Speaker 3: services as tour guides?

784
00:38:58,427 --> 00:39:00,627
Speaker 16: It is a few bad people wanting to be along.

785
00:39:01,227 --> 00:39:02,867
Speaker 2: I think your producer actually fine, a.

786
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:05,587
Speaker 6: Hea, you know, mom, heaby to come and carry some bags.

787
00:39:05,627 --> 00:39:07,827
Speaker 2: So you always get that with our tours.

788
00:39:08,227 --> 00:39:10,387
Speaker 16: You know, it's exciting, it's an exciting business to be

789
00:39:10,467 --> 00:39:13,827
Speaker 16: and really but yeah, we will definitely if we want them,

790
00:39:13,907 --> 00:39:15,067
Speaker 16: I'm sure we'll be able to find them.

791
00:39:15,147 --> 00:39:17,427
Speaker 3: I bet you will, all right, So just to recap, then,

792
00:39:17,787 --> 00:39:20,427
Speaker 3: when are you expecting to have or have you already

793
00:39:20,467 --> 00:39:23,307
Speaker 3: got some some packages and some options for people to

794
00:39:23,307 --> 00:39:25,467
Speaker 3: look at, or if you haven't, when might those be available?

795
00:39:26,107 --> 00:39:28,547
Speaker 16: Yeah, we've got expression of interest running today so people

796
00:39:28,587 --> 00:39:31,107
Speaker 16: can register on our website, All Blacks Travel on hospitality

797
00:39:31,147 --> 00:39:34,027
Speaker 16: dot com. And we're expecting the next couple of weeks

798
00:39:34,027 --> 00:39:36,707
Speaker 16: to have our packages all lined out at least in

799
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Speaker 16: a basic details to be able to purchase, and then

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00:39:40,667 --> 00:39:42,467
Speaker 16: you know, we'll kind of continue to refine as we

801
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,667
Speaker 16: get closer, as we know more information about different things

802
00:39:44,707 --> 00:39:47,107
Speaker 16: that are happening over there. We'll obviously have opportunities for

803
00:39:47,147 --> 00:39:49,747
Speaker 16: people to buy into extra things and that sort of stuff,

804
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:52,307
Speaker 16: but base packages we're expecting to be online in the

805
00:39:52,347 --> 00:39:53,027
Speaker 16: next couple of weeks.

806
00:39:53,067 --> 00:39:54,507
Speaker 3: Good Man, Nick, thanks for updating us.

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Speaker 9: Mate.

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Speaker 3: It's an exciting tour ahead for those who take the opportunity.

809
00:39:58,227 --> 00:40:01,267
Speaker 3: Always appreciate your time on Weekend Sport Perfect. Thanks Bony No,

810
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Nick. Nick Roland, head of Commercial for Sports

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Speaker 3: Travel and Hospitality Group US, on the Rugby's official travel

812
00:40:06,507 --> 00:40:11,107
Speaker 3: hospitality partner, the Greatest Rivalry Tour to South Africa twenty

813
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Speaker 3: twenty six seven Away from One News Talk said.

814
00:40:13,227 --> 00:40:17,427
Speaker 7: Me breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails

815
00:40:18,907 --> 00:40:22,667
Speaker 7: Weekend's fort with Jason nine News Talk zenby.

816
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Speaker 3: Four to one News at one, and then we're back

817
00:40:25,107 --> 00:40:28,307
Speaker 3: of at McCausland jury coach of the Silver Ferns. Do

818
00:40:28,347 --> 00:40:30,467
Speaker 3: we still call her interim coach? I guess we do

819
00:40:30,987 --> 00:40:33,747
Speaker 3: until this whole thing has resolved. Anyway, Vet McCausland jury

820
00:40:33,827 --> 00:40:36,667
Speaker 3: joining us after the first Constellation Cup Test last night.

821
00:40:37,027 --> 00:40:39,147
Speaker 3: The Silver Fern's well and t really in that until

822
00:40:39,507 --> 00:40:41,907
Speaker 3: three quarter time, but then a fourth quarter which I'm

823
00:40:41,907 --> 00:40:46,547
Speaker 3: sure they'll review pretty closely, was the undoing of them

824
00:40:46,547 --> 00:40:48,667
Speaker 3: and they ended up losing by seventeen goals to the

825
00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:52,027
Speaker 3: Diamonds and Constellation Cup Test one. So at McCausland jury

826
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Speaker 3: after one on that Dylan Pleasure turning heads everywhere as

827
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,107
Speaker 3: part of the Otago side that's made it all the

828
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Speaker 3: way through to the Bunnings ENDBC Final. He'll join us

829
00:41:01,387 --> 00:41:04,347
Speaker 3: as well Adam Peacock out of Australia too. Don't forget

830
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Speaker 3: after midday tomorrow. Louv vi Inctant is our guest.

831
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Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

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00:41:13,827 --> 00:41:18,787
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations kids all on

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Speaker 19: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: One owait, welcome in, Welcome back, this is weekend Sport

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Speaker 3: on News Talks. It'd be until three Big Football Hour

838
00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:34,667
Speaker 3: after two. The A League men season back underway this weekend.

839
00:41:34,787 --> 00:41:37,387
Speaker 3: A couple of games last night. Both Auckland FC and

840
00:41:37,507 --> 00:41:42,427
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix open their seasons away tonight nine thirty five

841
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:45,987
Speaker 3: New Zealand time. It's Auckland f C at Melbourne Victory.

842
00:41:45,987 --> 00:41:48,507
Speaker 3: They played Amy Park from nine thirty five and then

843
00:41:48,547 --> 00:41:52,747
Speaker 3: eleven forty five tonight the Wellington Phoenix up against Perth

844
00:41:52,787 --> 00:41:56,787
Speaker 3: Glory over in Western Australia. So after two we'll get

845
00:41:56,787 --> 00:41:59,347
Speaker 3: inside both camps, both their head coaches Steve Corriker and

846
00:41:59,827 --> 00:42:02,547
Speaker 3: Jim Couloertaliano, and a couple of key players Dan Hall

847
00:42:02,547 --> 00:42:05,387
Speaker 3: out of Auckland FC and goalkeeper Josh all Away in

848
00:42:05,467 --> 00:42:09,467
Speaker 3: the out of Wellington Phoenix. That's all after two o'clock.

849
00:42:09,987 --> 00:42:12,347
Speaker 3: We'll keep eyes on live sport as well, including the

850
00:42:12,387 --> 00:42:17,107
Speaker 3: Heartland Championship and the Meads Cup Final which is underway

851
00:42:17,107 --> 00:42:21,427
Speaker 3: at around two o'clock this afternoon. Mid Canterbury hosting Thames Valley.

852
00:42:21,827 --> 00:42:25,667
Speaker 3: This game is at the Ashburton Showgrounds in Ashburton. Mid

853
00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:29,707
Speaker 3: Canterbury finishing top of the regular season table Thames Valley

854
00:42:29,707 --> 00:42:33,547
Speaker 3: getting past South Canterbury in the semi finals last weekends.

855
00:42:34,747 --> 00:42:37,027
Speaker 3: This was a crazy game, was it? Did you see

856
00:42:37,067 --> 00:42:42,907
Speaker 3: this score? South Canterbury thirty one Thames Valley sixty one

857
00:42:43,747 --> 00:42:48,507
Speaker 3: sixty one. But the crazy thing was South Canterbury were

858
00:42:48,547 --> 00:42:54,147
Speaker 3: ahead thirty one twenty four, two minutes into the second

859
00:42:54,147 --> 00:42:58,547
Speaker 3: half thirty one twenty four, So what's that? Thirty seven

860
00:42:58,667 --> 00:43:03,147
Speaker 3: unanswered points by Thames Valley away from home to get

861
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Speaker 3: their get their spot in the final this afternoon of

862
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Speaker 3: the Meets Cup where they take on Mid Canterbury. So yeah,

863
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Speaker 3: we'll keep eyes on that for you after two o'clock

864
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Speaker 3: when it kicks off. Your causing correspondence always welcome on

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Speaker 3: the show. I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: our number nine two nine to two for your texts

867
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Speaker 3: emails to Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot nz.

868
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Speaker 3: We kick off this hour with netball. A dominant final

869
00:43:26,427 --> 00:43:29,507
Speaker 3: quarter performance from Australia has seen the Silver Ferns go

870
00:43:29,627 --> 00:43:32,667
Speaker 3: down to the Diamonds in the opening Constellation Cup netball

871
00:43:32,747 --> 00:43:34,507
Speaker 3: test in Melbourne last night.

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00:43:35,227 --> 00:43:40,067
Speaker 5: Seventeen goals ahead, the final hooter goes Australia winn it.

873
00:43:40,467 --> 00:43:45,947
Speaker 5: Australia take first blood in Constellation Cup twenty twenty five

874
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Speaker 5: fifty two New Zealand sixty nine to the Diamonds.

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Speaker 3: If you hadn't watched the game, you think, man, that's

876
00:43:52,347 --> 00:43:54,067
Speaker 3: a bit of a hiding, but really it was all

877
00:43:54,107 --> 00:43:56,587
Speaker 3: based on the fourth quarter. New Zealand were just two

878
00:43:56,627 --> 00:44:00,027
Speaker 3: behind at halftime, only four back at three quarter time

879
00:44:00,107 --> 00:44:04,267
Speaker 3: before Australia outscored them twenty four to eleven in the

880
00:44:04,347 --> 00:44:07,467
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Coach of at McCaw's lingurias with us of

881
00:44:07,667 --> 00:44:09,787
Speaker 3: what happened in that fourth quarter.

882
00:44:10,627 --> 00:44:15,027
Speaker 19: Oh gosh, I've watched it three times. It's painful, isn't it.

883
00:44:15,147 --> 00:44:17,787
Speaker 19: A lot of things I think, you know, partly that

884
00:44:17,907 --> 00:44:21,707
Speaker 19: ability just to really continue with our basics under pressure

885
00:44:21,787 --> 00:44:25,227
Speaker 19: and fatigue and look, I think Australia that need to

886
00:44:25,267 --> 00:44:26,787
Speaker 19: put us under pressure, but there are a lot of

887
00:44:26,827 --> 00:44:29,987
Speaker 19: things that we just lost control of our funds. And

888
00:44:30,027 --> 00:44:32,667
Speaker 19: that's seven losses, that seven goals to them plus their

889
00:44:32,667 --> 00:44:35,507
Speaker 19: own center pass and that's out of you know, completely

890
00:44:35,547 --> 00:44:38,147
Speaker 19: out at that point. So yeah, that fourth quarter was

891
00:44:38,187 --> 00:44:40,507
Speaker 19: really frustrating. There was lots of good pieces, of course,

892
00:44:40,547 --> 00:44:42,987
Speaker 19: but that's a huge blowout at the back end.

893
00:44:43,067 --> 00:44:44,707
Speaker 18: So yeah, we're really disappointed with that.

894
00:44:45,427 --> 00:44:50,827
Speaker 3: Is that something that is straightforward to address and put right?

895
00:44:51,827 --> 00:44:52,427
Speaker 18: It has to be.

896
00:44:52,907 --> 00:44:54,467
Speaker 19: You know, we've only got a couple of days, so

897
00:44:54,507 --> 00:44:57,267
Speaker 19: we've got to look really hard at ourselves in terms

898
00:44:57,267 --> 00:45:00,427
Speaker 19: of individuals and to be fair that the mini skill

899
00:45:00,507 --> 00:45:03,387
Speaker 19: sets that people can change really quickly.

900
00:45:03,427 --> 00:45:04,867
Speaker 18: There's a you know, a drop.

901
00:45:04,627 --> 00:45:07,867
Speaker 19: Ball or a choice by a shot or you know,

902
00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:10,427
Speaker 19: just simple things not doing the work to get you

903
00:45:10,667 --> 00:45:11,587
Speaker 19: free and into space.

904
00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:12,747
Speaker 18: So it gets contested.

905
00:45:12,867 --> 00:45:16,187
Speaker 19: So you look, all of it's flexible because the delivery

906
00:45:16,227 --> 00:45:19,187
Speaker 19: was clearly there in the first part. So they had

907
00:45:19,187 --> 00:45:21,027
Speaker 19: the skill set, they had the ability to do it,

908
00:45:21,107 --> 00:45:25,747
Speaker 19: but it's just maintaining that, you know, that pace under

909
00:45:25,747 --> 00:45:28,827
Speaker 19: pressure and that mental fatigue that can build as well.

910
00:45:29,347 --> 00:45:31,627
Speaker 3: How encouraged were you by the first three quarters?

911
00:45:33,067 --> 00:45:35,827
Speaker 19: Yeah, really encouraging. I mean it was you know, a

912
00:45:35,907 --> 00:45:39,427
Speaker 19: couple of people first time they've played Australia and others.

913
00:45:39,587 --> 00:45:42,747
Speaker 19: They were containing in terms of their own skill set.

914
00:45:42,747 --> 00:45:45,427
Speaker 19: They were really working on executing well. And I think

915
00:45:45,787 --> 00:45:49,347
Speaker 19: we had plenty of opportunity. Again first quarter, you know,

916
00:45:49,507 --> 00:45:53,787
Speaker 19: gave up a few you know, just poor execution, poor catch,

917
00:45:53,827 --> 00:45:54,347
Speaker 19: all those.

918
00:45:54,187 --> 00:45:56,707
Speaker 18: Sorts of things. So again it's flexible.

919
00:45:56,827 --> 00:45:58,907
Speaker 19: I mean sometimes you can play a game and you think,

920
00:45:58,987 --> 00:45:59,867
Speaker 19: oh my gosh.

921
00:45:59,667 --> 00:46:01,987
Speaker 18: There was just you know, they're just too good.

922
00:46:02,267 --> 00:46:04,987
Speaker 19: But I actually do believe we have the ability to

923
00:46:05,467 --> 00:46:08,027
Speaker 19: compete in We've just got a tidy up on those

924
00:46:08,267 --> 00:46:09,587
Speaker 19: really little fine.

925
00:46:09,307 --> 00:46:12,587
Speaker 3: Skills Martina Salmon. She grew up in Australia. Of course

926
00:46:12,667 --> 00:46:15,067
Speaker 3: took the goal attack bib it was just her fourth test.

927
00:46:15,307 --> 00:46:16,867
Speaker 3: How did you evaluate her performance?

928
00:46:17,867 --> 00:46:18,107
Speaker 10: Yeah?

929
00:46:18,147 --> 00:46:20,667
Speaker 19: Good, Look, I mean she always gets really disappointed in

930
00:46:20,667 --> 00:46:23,027
Speaker 19: the South, but I agree she hasn't had a huge

931
00:46:23,027 --> 00:46:25,867
Speaker 19: amount of time, not just at international level but even

932
00:46:25,907 --> 00:46:28,387
Speaker 19: at an said premiership level this year, and I think

933
00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:31,347
Speaker 19: she has that ability to take shots and take the

934
00:46:31,387 --> 00:46:35,147
Speaker 19: pressure off we needed. She's got the ability to get

935
00:46:35,187 --> 00:46:37,947
Speaker 19: good ball in space. So I think for me, you know,

936
00:46:37,987 --> 00:46:40,667
Speaker 19: we just keep working on her defensive game and making

937
00:46:40,707 --> 00:46:43,227
Speaker 19: sure that she keeps confident because she's got a lot to.

938
00:46:43,187 --> 00:46:47,507
Speaker 3: Offer just on her as an attacking weapon. How important

939
00:46:47,547 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 3: is it that whoever plays in the shooting circle with

940
00:46:49,827 --> 00:46:53,467
Speaker 3: Grace wiki is themselves a scoring threat to help take

941
00:46:53,507 --> 00:46:54,467
Speaker 3: that pressure off Grace.

942
00:46:55,307 --> 00:46:57,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's key.

943
00:46:57,507 --> 00:47:00,107
Speaker 19: You've got to have that ability to certainly look for

944
00:47:00,147 --> 00:47:02,947
Speaker 19: that offload if it's available and have really quality pass

945
00:47:02,987 --> 00:47:05,387
Speaker 19: and I think she did that well. She used both

946
00:47:05,387 --> 00:47:07,587
Speaker 19: a short in and outgame and she played with length.

947
00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:11,547
Speaker 19: But as you say, it's really critical that pressure comes on.

948
00:47:11,627 --> 00:47:14,787
Speaker 19: If there's two defenders on Grace, you're confident to take

949
00:47:14,787 --> 00:47:16,627
Speaker 19: the shot, and I thought she was smart with how

950
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:20,707
Speaker 19: she worked her way much closer to the post, even

951
00:47:20,747 --> 00:47:22,907
Speaker 19: though she's got range and she can shoot with range.

952
00:47:22,907 --> 00:47:24,587
Speaker 18: I thought she made some good decisions with that.

953
00:47:25,027 --> 00:47:27,947
Speaker 3: Interesting that you talked about Martinez defensive game as well,

954
00:47:28,027 --> 00:47:30,187
Speaker 3: and you know, as a goal attack, I guess we

955
00:47:30,307 --> 00:47:33,067
Speaker 3: just assume that they know they're an attacking player and

956
00:47:33,067 --> 00:47:37,347
Speaker 3: that's what do you need to see from your goal attack. Defensively, Yeah,

957
00:47:37,387 --> 00:47:39,507
Speaker 3: for us all, I guess we talk a lot about

958
00:47:39,587 --> 00:47:41,667
Speaker 3: you know, we're all defenders and we're all attackers, and

959
00:47:41,707 --> 00:47:44,267
Speaker 3: it's similarly, you know, the Gold offense and wing defence.

960
00:47:44,307 --> 00:47:46,707
Speaker 19: We've got to have that ability to get ball down

961
00:47:46,827 --> 00:47:49,147
Speaker 19: courts so we're not pulling our mid caught up too high.

962
00:47:49,147 --> 00:47:52,707
Speaker 19: And similarly for our Gold attacks and wing attacks, we

963
00:47:52,787 --> 00:47:55,587
Speaker 19: need them to keep you know, those Goldies and Windy's

964
00:47:55,667 --> 00:47:58,467
Speaker 19: further out of the play otherwise that gives them six

965
00:47:58,507 --> 00:48:00,867
Speaker 19: attackers and we've only got four defenders left in the

966
00:48:00,867 --> 00:48:04,227
Speaker 19: front line. So it's here, it's just about everybody contributing

967
00:48:04,267 --> 00:48:07,587
Speaker 19: across across the match, that they're pressure on every catch,

968
00:48:07,667 --> 00:48:10,227
Speaker 19: that there's the ability for people to be put in

969
00:48:10,267 --> 00:48:12,747
Speaker 19: spaces that don't give them really good lines to the ball.

970
00:48:12,867 --> 00:48:16,067
Speaker 19: So yeah, look, it's important for all of us to

971
00:48:16,107 --> 00:48:17,947
Speaker 19: make sure we're contributing across the game.

972
00:48:18,547 --> 00:48:21,107
Speaker 3: How's the internal dynamic in the team right now of.

973
00:48:21,307 --> 00:48:26,067
Speaker 19: Ed Yeah, look, they are disappointed in particularly that last

974
00:48:26,147 --> 00:48:30,347
Speaker 19: quarter and the inability just to hold that tight, but

975
00:48:30,547 --> 00:48:33,947
Speaker 19: overall really good. They've certainly looked at it last night.

976
00:48:34,027 --> 00:48:36,627
Speaker 19: We're pretty clear about the things that you know, you

977
00:48:36,707 --> 00:48:39,707
Speaker 19: can control and change. And there's a little group up

978
00:48:40,027 --> 00:48:41,827
Speaker 19: that didn't have a huge amount of court time. They

979
00:48:41,827 --> 00:48:45,787
Speaker 19: are up training already and everywhere. Head to Sydney straight

980
00:48:45,827 --> 00:48:49,787
Speaker 19: after that. So moving on to the next job, learning fast,

981
00:48:49,907 --> 00:48:52,427
Speaker 19: making sure we're clear, And I think the great thing

982
00:48:52,427 --> 00:48:55,747
Speaker 19: that I've found is I've just stayed really connected no

983
00:48:55,787 --> 00:48:56,147
Speaker 19: matter what.

984
00:48:56,427 --> 00:48:58,747
Speaker 18: But this is you know, things like this really continue

985
00:48:58,787 --> 00:49:01,627
Speaker 18: to test. Just so here we go again, looking forward

986
00:49:01,667 --> 00:49:02,267
Speaker 18: to the next one.

987
00:49:02,307 --> 00:49:05,387
Speaker 3: Though, How have you managed to keep the outside noise

988
00:49:05,427 --> 00:49:06,907
Speaker 3: to a minimum?

989
00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:07,627
Speaker 20: Yeah?

990
00:49:07,787 --> 00:49:11,947
Speaker 19: Look for me, and for me personally, I've never been

991
00:49:12,267 --> 00:49:15,187
Speaker 19: engaged in social media or anything, so I guess I

992
00:49:15,267 --> 00:49:18,107
Speaker 19: find that a little bit easier. But for the players

993
00:49:18,147 --> 00:49:20,507
Speaker 19: it's been you know, obviously a challenge to make sure

994
00:49:20,547 --> 00:49:22,427
Speaker 19: they put that aside it and that's the bit that

995
00:49:22,467 --> 00:49:22,907
Speaker 19: I've been.

996
00:49:22,827 --> 00:49:23,587
Speaker 18: Most impressed with.

997
00:49:23,667 --> 00:49:26,827
Speaker 19: We know how much they love phones and that ability

998
00:49:26,867 --> 00:49:30,747
Speaker 19: to engage. So it's been not easy, but I've been

999
00:49:31,187 --> 00:49:34,067
Speaker 19: impressed with the way they've just seen we've got a

1000
00:49:34,107 --> 00:49:36,587
Speaker 19: performance or we're paid professionals.

1001
00:49:36,627 --> 00:49:38,987
Speaker 18: We need to be able to do our job. And actually,

1002
00:49:39,027 --> 00:49:40,907
Speaker 18: in the end, people will always have.

1003
00:49:40,867 --> 00:49:43,907
Speaker 19: A view on all sorts of things, but you've just

1004
00:49:43,907 --> 00:49:45,707
Speaker 19: got to be able to say, look, can I look

1005
00:49:45,747 --> 00:49:47,627
Speaker 19: at myself and say I've done the best I can

1006
00:49:47,707 --> 00:49:50,467
Speaker 19: and in parts yesterday yes, and in other parts no.

1007
00:49:50,827 --> 00:49:52,907
Speaker 19: So we've got to just own the bits that we

1008
00:49:52,947 --> 00:49:53,547
Speaker 19: can control.

1009
00:49:53,747 --> 00:49:55,547
Speaker 3: And I know you've spoken about this publicly, but have

1010
00:49:55,627 --> 00:49:59,307
Speaker 3: you had to internally address what is going on outside

1011
00:49:59,307 --> 00:50:01,547
Speaker 3: the team or are you have you simply come in

1012
00:50:01,787 --> 00:50:04,667
Speaker 3: and said to yourself, I've got a netball team to coach.

1013
00:50:05,627 --> 00:50:06,347
Speaker 21: Yeah, pretty much.

1014
00:50:06,667 --> 00:50:08,227
Speaker 18: It's really been for me about Nippel.

1015
00:50:08,347 --> 00:50:12,707
Speaker 19: So the high performance development managers and others have done that,

1016
00:50:12,747 --> 00:50:14,747
Speaker 19: and the players have done that, and they've.

1017
00:50:14,907 --> 00:50:16,187
Speaker 18: Really settled themselves.

1018
00:50:16,227 --> 00:50:20,347
Speaker 19: They've had conversations a couple of reasonably you know, strong

1019
00:50:21,587 --> 00:50:24,387
Speaker 19: moments together in meetings where they're like, right, Okay, this

1020
00:50:24,507 --> 00:50:26,947
Speaker 19: is where we're at. We all understand where we're at.

1021
00:50:27,227 --> 00:50:29,947
Speaker 19: That's good, that's a sign post. But this is what

1022
00:50:29,987 --> 00:50:32,787
Speaker 19: we've got to do next. And that's made it really

1023
00:50:33,187 --> 00:50:35,587
Speaker 19: so much easier for me just to stay focused on

1024
00:50:35,627 --> 00:50:37,627
Speaker 19: the performance piece. And I don't know all the other

1025
00:50:37,667 --> 00:50:39,627
Speaker 19: bits that are going on and have chosen not to,

1026
00:50:39,667 --> 00:50:43,547
Speaker 19: whether that be blind or otherwise, but just yeah, we've

1027
00:50:43,667 --> 00:50:45,947
Speaker 19: literally got a job to do and it's hard en

1028
00:50:46,027 --> 00:50:47,707
Speaker 19: us without everything.

1029
00:50:47,307 --> 00:50:48,707
Speaker 18: Else that goes on.

1030
00:50:48,827 --> 00:50:51,387
Speaker 19: So I've been really impressed with them and they have

1031
00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:53,707
Speaker 19: stayed really connected and you can see moments so that

1032
00:50:53,787 --> 00:50:56,587
Speaker 19: you can't play well without that. So that's the bit

1033
00:50:56,627 --> 00:50:59,147
Speaker 19: they're disappointed and as they've just worked so hard to

1034
00:50:59,147 --> 00:51:02,987
Speaker 19: get to this point, and yep, but it's in our control,

1035
00:51:03,107 --> 00:51:05,147
Speaker 19: so we'll be ready to go again.

1036
00:51:05,387 --> 00:51:07,947
Speaker 3: Exactly the right approach it. Thanks for your time today

1037
00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:10,587
Speaker 3: or the best as you had to test to look

1038
00:51:10,627 --> 00:51:12,267
Speaker 3: forward to seeing your back here in New Zealand soon,

1039
00:51:13,107 --> 00:51:16,027
Speaker 3: cop right number he thank you so much. Indeed, evtna

1040
00:51:16,067 --> 00:51:18,907
Speaker 3: Vet mcauland jury there coach of the Silver Fans. I

1041
00:51:18,947 --> 00:51:21,747
Speaker 3: think I presume we just called her that interim coach

1042
00:51:21,827 --> 00:51:24,267
Speaker 3: may be more accurate. I'm not sure, but she is

1043
00:51:24,347 --> 00:51:26,907
Speaker 3: in charge and can I just say I continue to

1044
00:51:26,987 --> 00:51:33,947
Speaker 3: be very impressed with Avet McCausland jury. She has basically

1045
00:51:34,067 --> 00:51:39,307
Speaker 3: rescued Netball New Zealand from a very tight spot in

1046
00:51:39,347 --> 00:51:43,427
Speaker 3: the midst of this chaotic, ongoing off court stoush with

1047
00:51:43,547 --> 00:51:46,547
Speaker 3: Dame Nolen Totor which doesn't seem to have a resolution insight.

1048
00:51:46,667 --> 00:51:50,547
Speaker 3: Just quietly, Evt McCausland jury has stepped in and very

1049
00:51:50,587 --> 00:51:54,947
Speaker 3: calmly just focused on the nepple, focused on the nipple.

1050
00:51:55,907 --> 00:51:59,467
Speaker 3: It must still be a very challenging environment to oversee

1051
00:52:00,227 --> 00:52:03,267
Speaker 3: because it's obvious that some players want Dame Nolen Todo

1052
00:52:03,467 --> 00:52:07,747
Speaker 3: back and some players don't. That has become very of Grayson.

1053
00:52:07,787 --> 00:52:11,427
Speaker 3: Wicki in the media this week even said she should

1054
00:52:11,427 --> 00:52:14,467
Speaker 3: have chosen her words more carefully when she took the

1055
00:52:14,507 --> 00:52:18,027
Speaker 3: mic after that South African series and said we want

1056
00:52:18,067 --> 00:52:21,187
Speaker 3: you back, Dan Noling, we want you back. She's obviously

1057
00:52:21,227 --> 00:52:23,787
Speaker 3: been given the message that she doesn't speak for the

1058
00:52:23,787 --> 00:52:31,587
Speaker 3: team when she says that, but divided opinion doesn't have

1059
00:52:31,707 --> 00:52:37,427
Speaker 3: to mean a divided team. It would be fanciful for

1060
00:52:37,547 --> 00:52:40,307
Speaker 3: us to think that every player in every team gets

1061
00:52:40,347 --> 00:52:44,067
Speaker 3: on that they all share the same views about that team,

1062
00:52:44,387 --> 00:52:47,427
Speaker 3: about its leadership, about its coaching, about its playing style,

1063
00:52:47,667 --> 00:52:54,627
Speaker 3: about every aspect of it. It's fantasy to assume that

1064
00:52:55,027 --> 00:52:58,667
Speaker 3: every player and every team is completely aligned. It's the

1065
00:52:58,707 --> 00:53:01,827
Speaker 3: same with workplaces as compared it to something that we

1066
00:53:01,867 --> 00:53:05,467
Speaker 3: can relate to. We absolutely do not love all of

1067
00:53:05,507 --> 00:53:10,027
Speaker 3: our workmates. I mean some people in workplaces may do.

1068
00:53:10,147 --> 00:53:13,507
Speaker 3: There may be the odd one where everybody is completely aligned.

1069
00:53:13,507 --> 00:53:16,987
Speaker 3: Everybody gets on You're all on one another's Christmas card list,

1070
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:19,787
Speaker 3: You're socialized with each other outside, and it is just

1071
00:53:19,907 --> 00:53:23,467
Speaker 3: like one big family. But that would be the exception

1072
00:53:23,587 --> 00:53:28,707
Speaker 3: to the rule. But we get on with it. We

1073
00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:31,707
Speaker 3: get on with it. We don't have to love the

1074
00:53:31,787 --> 00:53:36,827
Speaker 3: people we work alongside to be effective. Divided opinion doesn't

1075
00:53:36,827 --> 00:53:38,907
Speaker 3: have to mean a divided team. And I'm almost certain

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Speaker 3: that's the message that Avet McCausland jury has very calmly

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Speaker 3: given this team. She is not a ranter or a raver.

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Speaker 3: She's a very calm composed netball coach who has found

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Speaker 3: herself in a situation that she couldn't possibly have foreseen.

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Speaker 3: There's no way coaching the silver Ferns and the tiny Jamison,

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Speaker 3: the Constellation Cup and the Northern tour was on Avet

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Speaker 3: McCausland Jury's bingo cart. At the start of this year,

1083
00:54:03,827 --> 00:54:06,027
Speaker 3: no way in the world she'd moved away from it.

1084
00:54:06,667 --> 00:54:09,467
Speaker 3: She was into the next part of her life. She's

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Speaker 3: in the education sector and deeply invested in that. But

1086
00:54:13,427 --> 00:54:16,227
Speaker 3: as answered, the sos come in and I think done

1087
00:54:16,707 --> 00:54:20,947
Speaker 3: all she could possibly do to smooth things over, not

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Speaker 3: to ignore them. I don't think anybody's ignoring what's gone

1089
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Speaker 3: on here, but I think netball in New Zealand of

1090
00:54:28,227 --> 00:54:32,867
Speaker 3: at McCausland jury a huge debt of gratitude for her

1091
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Speaker 3: ability to come in and steady the ship and guide

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Speaker 3: them again on your views o. Eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty and on the netball itself, I did think

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Speaker 3: it was interesting that the game was decided in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, where fatigue sets in, where we find out

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Speaker 3: how fit players are, because as we know Dan no

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00:54:58,867 --> 00:55:04,467
Speaker 3: Leane was is a stickler for fitness. She wants her

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Speaker 3: players to be at a certain level. And the reason

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Speaker 3: she wants them to be at a certain level is

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Speaker 3: exactly what happened last night in the fourth quarter. You'd

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Speaker 3: gotta be you can't play for three quarters and expect

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Speaker 3: to beat the best team in the world, you have

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Speaker 3: to be able to play for the four quarters. You

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Speaker 3: must be fit enough to do that. I'm not telling

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Speaker 3: you anything you don't already know. This is not This

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Speaker 3: is not revelation or revelatory stuff from me. Dave No

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Speaker 3: Leean was always big on fitness, always and will always be.

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Speaker 3: One two. We can talk some NIPPA. What did you

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Speaker 3: see last night? I was impressed with Martina Salmon. I

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Speaker 3: thought she gave it a good crack. I thought she

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Speaker 3: took some pressure off Grace Wiki and was taking shots

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Speaker 3: from further out. I mean, it must be so tempting

1113
00:55:47,347 --> 00:55:49,187
Speaker 3: when you've got a player like Grace Wiki in the

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00:55:49,187 --> 00:55:50,987
Speaker 3: team to just give it to her every time. I

1115
00:55:51,027 --> 00:55:53,467
Speaker 3: know that Silver Furns used to do that with Irene

1116
00:55:53,507 --> 00:55:56,867
Speaker 3: Van Dyke when she was their their main threat in

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00:55:56,907 --> 00:55:59,907
Speaker 3: the shooting circle. You just look for Irene Grace Wiki

1118
00:56:00,067 --> 00:56:02,707
Speaker 3: the same. The temptation will be just to look for

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Speaker 3: her every time. But having my ten of Salmon there

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Speaker 3: and there are other options to Amelia Warmsley came on

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00:56:09,147 --> 00:56:12,947
Speaker 3: last night and played the back end of that game.

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Speaker 3: You must be able to take the pressure off otherwise

1123
00:56:16,947 --> 00:56:22,467
Speaker 3: it's an easy, easier defensive assignment for whoever you're playing against.

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Speaker 3: They just double mark Grace Wiki one twenty three news

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Speaker 3: talks there, but we can talk to Nipall eight hundred

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Speaker 1: We sorced.

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00:57:31,267 --> 00:57:33,067
Speaker 3: It is weekends sport on news Talks there B one

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Speaker 3: twenty seven talking some netball. Hello, John, Hey mate.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I just I just wanted to say that I

1150
00:57:41,707 --> 00:57:45,507
Speaker 21: was just quite glad that no Lean wasn't coaching last night,

1151
00:57:45,827 --> 00:57:48,627
Speaker 21: just because for the fact that if she was then

1152
00:57:48,627 --> 00:57:50,747
Speaker 21: they lost like that, they would have said that, you know,

1153
00:57:51,267 --> 00:57:53,947
Speaker 21: it was because of her that the girls have, you know,

1154
00:57:54,107 --> 00:57:58,027
Speaker 21: lost because they were quite dominantly in South Africa. So yeah,

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Speaker 21: it was you know, I think it was quite good

1156
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:01,947
Speaker 21: for them to kind of see it like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're saying, John, I know what

1158
00:58:04,187 --> 00:58:06,187
Speaker 3: you're saying, mate. Yeah, that she'd come back in and

1159
00:58:06,587 --> 00:58:09,227
Speaker 3: I think I think most of us, and I'm sure

1160
00:58:09,267 --> 00:58:12,267
Speaker 3: you agree, would would would know that Australia are a

1161
00:58:12,387 --> 00:58:14,827
Speaker 3: much tougher proposition. But I get what you're saying. Made

1162
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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. She would have been in

1163
00:58:16,067 --> 00:58:18,387
Speaker 3: a bit of a no win situation, had she come

1164
00:58:18,427 --> 00:58:21,907
Speaker 3: back in and overseen a loss of that magnitude, would

1165
00:58:21,907 --> 00:58:23,827
Speaker 3: they have lost by that many with Dame Noll in there.

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00:58:24,027 --> 00:58:25,867
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer, but I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, but that's the thing. It's just like, regardless of

1168
00:58:29,907 --> 00:58:32,947
Speaker 21: whether of how it swings, if she came in and

1169
00:58:32,987 --> 00:58:36,067
Speaker 21: would have just been I lose lose on her. So yeah,

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Speaker 21: I think that's quite good. But hey, give the girls

1171
00:58:38,187 --> 00:58:41,747
Speaker 21: another game, you know, give the girls another cook at it.

1172
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Speaker 21: And you know this was just a one off, so

1173
00:58:43,707 --> 00:58:45,627
Speaker 21: maybe they'll they'll come back on the second one.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see the good man, John, Yeah, no, good point,

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00:58:48,747 --> 00:58:50,547
Speaker 3: well made. And look, I think we all want the

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00:58:50,587 --> 00:58:53,227
Speaker 3: team to win. There's no one out here wanting this

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Speaker 3: team to lose. We all want them to win. And

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Speaker 3: I was she just I just really enjoyed watching some

1179
00:58:58,107 --> 00:59:02,147
Speaker 3: nipple goodness be This off field stuff has been but tiring,

1180
00:59:02,187 --> 00:59:04,667
Speaker 3: hasn't it. Finally we got some some nipple to watch,

1181
00:59:04,707 --> 00:59:07,107
Speaker 3: some nipple to analyze, and we land on that fourth

1182
00:59:07,187 --> 00:59:10,787
Speaker 3: quarter because they were were off the pace in the

1183
00:59:10,907 --> 00:59:13,467
Speaker 3: in the final quarter. If it mcauseland jury admitted it

1184
00:59:13,707 --> 00:59:17,267
Speaker 3: mistakes under pressure we fatigued, So it's a work on

1185
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Speaker 3: for the next one, Lily, Hello, Yeah, Hi, I'm.

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Speaker 22: Just saying that the time they played, I mean it

1187
00:59:24,987 --> 00:59:27,467
Speaker 22: was past their bed times, past mine as well. And

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Speaker 22: he went over there two days ago.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: At least they don't have to go to Perth, Lily,

1191
00:59:31,867 --> 00:59:34,107
Speaker 3: that would have been worse. But I mean the.

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Speaker 22: Obsies tend to do that, don't they. But I mean

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00:59:36,267 --> 00:59:38,827
Speaker 22: in Sydney they probably play a better game because the

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00:59:38,907 --> 00:59:41,107
Speaker 22: adjustice to the time difference, you know.

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Speaker 3: Good point, good point.

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Speaker 15: What about the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 3: What about their fourth quarter?

1198
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Speaker 21: Though?

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Speaker 3: Were you a bit concerned in the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 22: Ah, year, I was, But I mean they actually made

1201
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Speaker 22: their own mistakes. Yeah, they were out played, They threw

1202
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Speaker 22: the ball away, they made their own mistakes.

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Speaker 3: And I guess in that Regardlely, then if they can

1204
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Speaker 3: stop doing that, then they should improve in the second test,

1205
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Speaker 3: shouldn't they?

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Speaker 22: Absolutely? And I think I think we've got to look

1207
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Speaker 22: at the players that weren't available with Dame, you know,

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Speaker 22: with a team, so there was about five of them

1209
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Speaker 22: that weren't available, So I mean I think those were

1210
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Speaker 22: the ones that probably complained.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know that Lili, we don't know who

1212
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Speaker 3: who has made the complaints, and it's probably a little

1213
01:00:28,307 --> 01:00:31,667
Speaker 3: but you know, I'm not sure it's that valuable to

1214
01:00:33,187 --> 01:00:35,907
Speaker 3: assume anything in the absence of absolute knowledge. But I

1215
01:00:35,947 --> 01:00:37,547
Speaker 3: know what you're saying, and I know a lot of

1216
01:00:37,587 --> 01:00:41,467
Speaker 3: things have been said about you know, about who said what.

1217
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Speaker 3: We'll take some more calls on the NEBUL eight hundred

1218
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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty if you text through here Jason.

1219
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Speaker 3: The silver firm's conceded sixteen points in the last quarter,

1220
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Speaker 3: clearly indicating a lack of fitness. Do you need any

1221
01:00:53,587 --> 01:00:56,507
Speaker 3: more proof they do not meet the fitness requirements that

1222
01:00:56,627 --> 01:01:03,067
Speaker 3: Dame Noleine required. Look, Terry, thanks for your text. I

1223
01:01:03,707 --> 01:01:08,387
Speaker 3: don't know that a player will stop trying to reach

1224
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Speaker 3: fitness targets just because their coach isn't there to drive

1225
01:01:10,867 --> 01:01:14,587
Speaker 3: them anymore. Maybe that is naive. Maybe I don't know.

1226
01:01:14,787 --> 01:01:18,067
Speaker 3: Maybe there are players in the team who who do

1227
01:01:18,227 --> 01:01:22,947
Speaker 3: need to have a hard task master driving them on.

1228
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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they do, but I'm not sure that a player's

1230
01:01:28,347 --> 01:01:33,947
Speaker 3: personal and professional pride would stop them from wanting to

1231
01:01:33,987 --> 01:01:39,027
Speaker 3: be as fit as they possibly could. Dame Noline says

1232
01:01:39,027 --> 01:01:41,947
Speaker 3: this text from ra would have been totally annoyed at

1233
01:01:41,947 --> 01:01:43,707
Speaker 3: the lack of fitness coming home to roost in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, lack of oxygen going to the brain leading

1235
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Speaker 3: to inexcusable mistakes and handling errors. Hello Heather, oh.

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Speaker 23: Gosh, that was fast. Hello, I'm speaking with Jason am

1237
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Speaker 23: I you are right. There's a lot of things I

1238
01:02:03,587 --> 01:02:05,747
Speaker 23: could say, as I guess many people who don't ring

1239
01:02:05,907 --> 01:02:11,387
Speaker 23: as well. But I do wish to remind people that

1240
01:02:11,827 --> 01:02:15,587
Speaker 23: it is not a great big deal that we perhaps

1241
01:02:15,747 --> 01:02:20,027
Speaker 23: lost this first game by seventeen goals, and I wish

1242
01:02:20,067 --> 01:02:25,147
Speaker 23: to remind people of the following one. In the Commonwealth

1243
01:02:25,307 --> 01:02:32,547
Speaker 23: Games we were third with under the tutelage of Nolentura,

1244
01:02:33,787 --> 01:02:40,507
Speaker 23: we were third the most recent Commonwealth Games. Then in

1245
01:02:40,587 --> 01:02:45,107
Speaker 23: the World Cup, which was in twenty twenty three, just

1246
01:02:45,187 --> 01:02:50,747
Speaker 23: two years ago, we didn't even make the podium again

1247
01:02:50,947 --> 01:02:57,627
Speaker 23: under the tutelage of Noline. Now, I wish not to

1248
01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:02,147
Speaker 23: cast suspersions dispersions on her at all. I simply wish

1249
01:03:02,227 --> 01:03:09,747
Speaker 23: to remind the netball people who bring in constantly that

1250
01:03:10,187 --> 01:03:13,027
Speaker 23: in fact she's not the biggory that everyone is saying

1251
01:03:13,107 --> 01:03:18,227
Speaker 23: she is. Nobody is in any sport and that the

1252
01:03:18,267 --> 01:03:22,467
Speaker 23: failure is huge. Failure at the World Cup in twenty

1253
01:03:22,507 --> 01:03:26,947
Speaker 23: twenty three is the first time in the history of

1254
01:03:26,987 --> 01:03:30,107
Speaker 23: the game, our game here in New Zealand and the

1255
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Speaker 23: World Cup that we have not been on the podium.

1256
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Speaker 23: So that's what I'm bringing to the conversation. Just for

1257
01:03:37,227 --> 01:03:40,107
Speaker 23: people to chew over things a bit and maybe just

1258
01:03:40,547 --> 01:03:43,747
Speaker 23: a little bit of perspective will go a long way.

1259
01:03:44,267 --> 01:03:47,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very interesting point you make, And I

1260
01:03:47,307 --> 01:03:52,187
Speaker 3: wonder whether if there was concern about Dame Nolene's performance

1261
01:03:52,947 --> 01:03:56,587
Speaker 3: as a head coach of the Silver Ferns, why she

1262
01:03:57,187 --> 01:04:02,027
Speaker 3: wasn't subjected to some performance management in that case, Why

1263
01:04:02,027 --> 01:04:07,067
Speaker 3: did it take for this other outside stuff to come

1264
01:04:07,107 --> 01:04:10,987
Speaker 3: to the fore for her to be taken out of there.

1265
01:04:11,387 --> 01:04:13,427
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is Neckborn, New Zealand back

1266
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Speaker 3: to her as their head coach.

1267
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Speaker 23: Yeah, well I don't know that either, Jason, neither do you.

1268
01:04:20,427 --> 01:04:24,947
Speaker 23: And you know I'm not one for conjecture, especially under

1269
01:04:25,347 --> 01:04:28,627
Speaker 23: the circumstances where in fact we don't know, and where

1270
01:04:28,707 --> 01:04:31,147
Speaker 23: in fact I have had respect for her and I

1271
01:04:31,227 --> 01:04:34,867
Speaker 23: certainly have respect for the players, and to put one

1272
01:04:34,947 --> 01:04:38,707
Speaker 23: side down against the other when people don't know. I

1273
01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:43,307
Speaker 23: have found really, really, really frustrating. So that's all I

1274
01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:47,587
Speaker 23: wanted to say on this point. With respect to everybody.

1275
01:04:48,547 --> 01:04:50,587
Speaker 3: Heather, thank you so much for calling no, and great

1276
01:04:50,627 --> 01:04:53,227
Speaker 3: respect to you for calling. I think we can all

1277
01:04:53,267 --> 01:04:56,507
Speaker 3: agree on that final point. It has been deeply frustrating

1278
01:04:57,067 --> 01:04:59,907
Speaker 3: watching this all play out. I appreciate you taking the

1279
01:04:59,947 --> 01:05:01,907
Speaker 3: time to call us, Heather, thank you for all your

1280
01:05:01,907 --> 01:05:04,987
Speaker 3: calls and correspondence. Twenty six to two. Let's shift across

1281
01:05:05,467 --> 01:05:10,027
Speaker 3: to RUGB. The Otago have stormed into the NPC Final

1282
01:05:10,307 --> 01:05:13,507
Speaker 3: an emphatic forty one at seventeen win over Bay of

1283
01:05:13,547 --> 01:05:16,667
Speaker 3: Plenty in their semi final last night in Dunedin. Otago

1284
01:05:16,747 --> 01:05:19,427
Speaker 3: head twenty one twelve at the break and then overwhelm

1285
01:05:19,547 --> 01:05:23,027
Speaker 3: the Steamers with a seventeen point surge to assert their dominance.

1286
01:05:23,067 --> 01:05:23,787
Speaker 3: So I'm the advantage.

1287
01:05:23,827 --> 01:05:24,627
Speaker 2: I ain't fifteen out.

1288
01:05:24,627 --> 01:05:26,227
Speaker 3: Pleasure try to breach the defense.

1289
01:05:26,307 --> 01:05:28,867
Speaker 5: Bill A steps inside, Won steps inside two bag and tripe.

1290
01:05:28,867 --> 01:05:30,027
Speaker 4: Pleasure to try.

1291
01:05:30,507 --> 01:05:33,387
Speaker 5: Dylan Preacher scauses height to try this year there was

1292
01:05:33,427 --> 01:05:34,427
Speaker 5: a mistackling there.

1293
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:38,267
Speaker 3: Pleasure touches down and between the uprights. Otago extend their

1294
01:05:38,267 --> 01:05:40,987
Speaker 3: halftime lead. So Otaga will play the winner of tonight's

1295
01:05:40,987 --> 01:05:44,307
Speaker 3: second semi between Canterbury and Hawks Bay. Otago half back

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Speaker 3: Dylan Pledger is with us. Dylan, thanks for your time

1297
01:05:47,347 --> 01:05:50,547
Speaker 3: and congratulations on another superb performance last night from you

1298
01:05:50,627 --> 01:05:52,787
Speaker 3: and the Otago team. How much fun is it playing

1299
01:05:52,827 --> 01:05:54,027
Speaker 3: for Otaga right now?

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01:05:54,587 --> 01:05:56,587
Speaker 2: Now? I'm loving it every weekend.

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01:05:56,627 --> 01:05:59,307
Speaker 24: It's just getting better and yeah, the boys are firing

1302
01:05:59,307 --> 01:06:00,867
Speaker 24: at the moment, which is good to see it, and

1303
01:06:00,907 --> 01:06:02,987
Speaker 24: you're just loving every moment of it.

1304
01:06:03,307 --> 01:06:05,587
Speaker 3: What has been going so well for you as a

1305
01:06:05,587 --> 01:06:07,827
Speaker 3: team this season? What are the foundations of this this

1306
01:06:08,027 --> 01:06:09,587
Speaker 3: excellent campaign that you've had.

1307
01:06:10,867 --> 01:06:13,867
Speaker 24: I think we've just trusted our just trusted our game,

1308
01:06:13,947 --> 01:06:16,747
Speaker 24: tended our coaches have given us and I think that's

1309
01:06:16,867 --> 01:06:18,947
Speaker 24: you know, we've reaped the rewards from that, and as

1310
01:06:18,987 --> 01:06:20,827
Speaker 24: you can see, the results are going our way, which

1311
01:06:20,867 --> 01:06:21,867
Speaker 24: is cool to see.

1312
01:06:22,027 --> 01:06:23,947
Speaker 3: I think when people were coming up with their NPC

1313
01:06:24,107 --> 01:06:26,867
Speaker 3: favorites before the season started, not too many I'm sure

1314
01:06:26,907 --> 01:06:29,587
Speaker 3: would have had Otago in their in their conversations. Did

1315
01:06:29,627 --> 01:06:32,507
Speaker 3: you know though pre season that you were going to

1316
01:06:32,547 --> 01:06:33,787
Speaker 3: be a pretty decent side?

1317
01:06:34,867 --> 01:06:37,187
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, I guess we've had We've had a tough

1318
01:06:37,227 --> 01:06:39,987
Speaker 24: couple of years but we've had returning boys from the

1319
01:06:40,067 --> 01:06:42,987
Speaker 24: last couple of seasons and I think it's really helped

1320
01:06:43,147 --> 01:06:46,467
Speaker 24: when you build connections and stuff and just know that

1321
01:06:46,507 --> 01:06:48,987
Speaker 24: we had us to hopefully go the whole way.

1322
01:06:49,387 --> 01:06:51,387
Speaker 3: A lot of you weren't even born the last time

1323
01:06:51,387 --> 01:06:55,307
Speaker 3: Otago won the NPC back in nineteen ninety eight. Are

1324
01:06:55,347 --> 01:06:58,627
Speaker 3: you all aware though, of the proud provincial rugby history

1325
01:06:58,667 --> 01:06:59,667
Speaker 3: and you're part of the country.

1326
01:07:00,787 --> 01:07:01,027
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1327
01:07:01,107 --> 01:07:04,427
Speaker 24: Now I'm definitely talking about it lots and about just

1328
01:07:04,947 --> 01:07:08,787
Speaker 24: playing for our region and we know that it's been

1329
01:07:08,787 --> 01:07:11,227
Speaker 24: a long time since since the last final and I

1330
01:07:11,227 --> 01:07:14,307
Speaker 24: think it's pretty special special to get him there and

1331
01:07:15,227 --> 01:07:16,867
Speaker 24: you have a chance at winning the title.

1332
01:07:17,307 --> 01:07:20,107
Speaker 3: Another really good crowd there last night looked awesome on TV.

1333
01:07:20,827 --> 01:07:24,307
Speaker 3: How's the energy under that roof on nights like last night?

1334
01:07:25,187 --> 01:07:28,507
Speaker 24: No, it's unreal. I think last night was pretty special

1335
01:07:28,547 --> 01:07:31,587
Speaker 24: in front of a tapped out for syd And yeah,

1336
01:07:31,627 --> 01:07:33,227
Speaker 24: they really helped us get over the line at the

1337
01:07:33,267 --> 01:07:35,747
Speaker 24: U meal, which was cool to see.

1338
01:07:36,067 --> 01:07:38,587
Speaker 3: So this is your debut NPC season. Of course you've

1339
01:07:38,587 --> 01:07:41,227
Speaker 3: got Christian Leo Willy there at number eight, pretty handy

1340
01:07:41,267 --> 01:07:44,667
Speaker 3: first five and Cam Miller outside you how much help

1341
01:07:44,907 --> 01:07:46,987
Speaker 3: have those guys in particular been to you as you

1342
01:07:47,427 --> 01:07:49,187
Speaker 3: navigate your first MPC season.

1343
01:07:50,147 --> 01:07:53,227
Speaker 24: No, those two are very good players, and I think

1344
01:07:53,267 --> 01:07:56,187
Speaker 24: they just yeah, it's pretty easy for me to do

1345
01:07:56,267 --> 01:08:00,107
Speaker 24: my job. And I've got Christians and came outside me

1346
01:08:00,307 --> 01:08:02,867
Speaker 24: just calling a shot, so that yeah, helps me just

1347
01:08:02,907 --> 01:08:06,147
Speaker 24: play my game, which is yeah, pretty easy.

1348
01:08:06,427 --> 01:08:08,267
Speaker 3: Dylan, can you tell us a bit about your rugby journey?

1349
01:08:08,307 --> 01:08:10,067
Speaker 3: Where did you grow up? Ma, where'd you go to school?

1350
01:08:10,787 --> 01:08:12,507
Speaker 24: I went to school at came to high school in

1351
01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:16,067
Speaker 24: Doneda and yeah, just been in Dneda since I was

1352
01:08:16,387 --> 01:08:19,867
Speaker 24: a dun kid and played all my footy and yeah, school,

1353
01:08:19,907 --> 01:08:22,787
Speaker 24: done all my schooling in Doneda and come out of

1354
01:08:22,787 --> 01:08:24,307
Speaker 24: school now I'm playing for Kite.

1355
01:08:25,787 --> 01:08:26,947
Speaker 3: Have you always been a halfback?

1356
01:08:27,907 --> 01:08:32,467
Speaker 24: Yeah, I played but a ten and fallback throughout throughout

1357
01:08:32,467 --> 01:08:36,827
Speaker 24: the schooling grades. But yeah, kind of settled into the

1358
01:08:36,947 --> 01:08:38,667
Speaker 24: nine position in about year twelve.

1359
01:08:39,387 --> 01:08:43,147
Speaker 3: And has rugby been an ambition in terms of playing

1360
01:08:43,147 --> 01:08:45,427
Speaker 3: it at the elite level for a while. Is it

1361
01:08:45,467 --> 01:08:49,027
Speaker 3: something that you have, you know, have thought about since

1362
01:08:49,027 --> 01:08:50,907
Speaker 3: you were you know, I guess since you first started

1363
01:08:51,187 --> 01:08:51,827
Speaker 3: running around.

1364
01:08:52,547 --> 01:08:53,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

1365
01:08:53,347 --> 01:08:55,307
Speaker 24: I think by the age of two I was just

1366
01:08:55,387 --> 01:08:57,667
Speaker 24: holding your rug people, and that's all I wanted to

1367
01:08:57,667 --> 01:09:00,347
Speaker 24: do and loved it. And I think mom and dad

1368
01:09:00,347 --> 01:09:03,107
Speaker 24: probably got sick of me. But I guess it's working

1369
01:09:03,227 --> 01:09:04,267
Speaker 24: out now, which is cool.

1370
01:09:04,507 --> 01:09:05,827
Speaker 3: I think you played a bit of touch growing up

1371
01:09:05,827 --> 01:09:08,267
Speaker 3: as well. Did you have those skills kind of been

1372
01:09:08,267 --> 01:09:10,507
Speaker 3: helpful and things like, you know, sniping from the base

1373
01:09:10,587 --> 01:09:11,827
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.

1374
01:09:12,427 --> 01:09:13,147
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

1375
01:09:13,187 --> 01:09:17,307
Speaker 24: I think Township Kings really helped my game and rugby wise.

1376
01:09:17,427 --> 01:09:19,427
Speaker 24: I think, yeah, we had a good team at Kings

1377
01:09:19,427 --> 01:09:20,747
Speaker 24: and that helped me.

1378
01:09:21,347 --> 01:09:21,507
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1379
01:09:21,547 --> 01:09:23,587
Speaker 24: I guess what you're saying, pick the ball around, the

1380
01:09:23,627 --> 01:09:26,667
Speaker 24: reaction stuff, which is what I try to do and

1381
01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:28,227
Speaker 24: add into my rugby game as well.

1382
01:09:28,467 --> 01:09:30,387
Speaker 3: Did you feel ready for MPC at the start of

1383
01:09:30,387 --> 01:09:32,307
Speaker 3: the season did you do you think, yep, this is

1384
01:09:32,347 --> 01:09:33,907
Speaker 3: my time, I'm ready for this next step.

1385
01:09:34,867 --> 01:09:35,107
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1386
01:09:35,147 --> 01:09:35,787
Speaker 2: I think.

1387
01:09:37,107 --> 01:09:41,787
Speaker 24: That the New Land twenties campaign definitely helped coming into

1388
01:09:41,947 --> 01:09:45,067
Speaker 24: m PC. It's probably the closest thing to the NPC,

1389
01:09:45,227 --> 01:09:48,947
Speaker 24: and I think, yeah, a good good twentieth them really

1390
01:09:48,987 --> 01:09:50,547
Speaker 24: helped coming into the NPC season.

1391
01:09:51,507 --> 01:09:53,907
Speaker 3: I'm sure this hasn't escaped your attention, mate. There's a

1392
01:09:53,907 --> 01:09:57,187
Speaker 3: lot of hype around about you right now. How are

1393
01:09:57,227 --> 01:09:58,667
Speaker 3: you staying grounded.

1394
01:10:00,347 --> 01:10:03,107
Speaker 24: I kind of try to block that out and just yeah,

1395
01:10:03,147 --> 01:10:05,987
Speaker 24: I just stick to my people and I'm just focused

1396
01:10:05,987 --> 01:10:08,547
Speaker 24: on Target at the moment. And you haven't really thought

1397
01:10:08,587 --> 01:10:09,787
Speaker 24: of anything else other than that.

1398
01:10:10,267 --> 01:10:12,667
Speaker 3: Can you block it out? I mean, you're you're I

1399
01:10:12,707 --> 01:10:16,427
Speaker 3: mean you're a twenty year old young man. I know

1400
01:10:16,507 --> 01:10:18,507
Speaker 3: social media is a big part of what everyone's about

1401
01:10:18,507 --> 01:10:20,667
Speaker 3: it at your age, you can you block it out?

1402
01:10:21,987 --> 01:10:22,187
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1403
01:10:22,267 --> 01:10:25,507
Speaker 24: I've found raised to keep my mind off it and

1404
01:10:26,347 --> 01:10:28,507
Speaker 24: not really focus on it. I'm just looking forward to

1405
01:10:28,547 --> 01:10:31,787
Speaker 24: finishing the season with a target and then yeah, just

1406
01:10:31,787 --> 01:10:33,147
Speaker 24: to break from footy after that.

1407
01:10:33,747 --> 01:10:36,227
Speaker 3: We had Jamie Joseph on the show earlier today. He

1408
01:10:36,267 --> 01:10:39,467
Speaker 3: took us through the rationale of not picking you for

1409
01:10:39,547 --> 01:10:42,787
Speaker 3: the All Blacks fifteen tour. Were you okay with that decision?

1410
01:10:43,627 --> 01:10:44,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy.

1411
01:10:44,827 --> 01:10:48,187
Speaker 24: I wasn't expecting a call or anything. I think I've

1412
01:10:48,227 --> 01:10:51,707
Speaker 24: got a quality n three quality nines in there, and yeah,

1413
01:10:51,747 --> 01:10:53,987
Speaker 24: I guess maybe in a couple of years. That's that's

1414
01:10:54,027 --> 01:10:56,387
Speaker 24: the goal. That just kind of taking it one set

1415
01:10:56,427 --> 01:10:56,747
Speaker 24: at a time.

1416
01:10:56,787 --> 01:10:57,667
Speaker 18: At the moment, you.

1417
01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:59,907
Speaker 3: Look around the country and there's some pretty decent nines

1418
01:10:59,947 --> 01:11:03,867
Speaker 3: running around yourself included obviously, and there's six that have

1419
01:11:03,907 --> 01:11:05,427
Speaker 3: been chosen for the All Blacks, and there's All Blacks

1420
01:11:05,467 --> 01:11:08,907
Speaker 3: fifteen squad that's about to head away. You must feel

1421
01:11:08,947 --> 01:11:11,347
Speaker 3: as though you're part of a pretty pretty decent bunch

1422
01:11:11,387 --> 01:11:13,547
Speaker 3: of halfbacks running around right now.

1423
01:11:14,267 --> 01:11:14,467
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1424
01:11:14,547 --> 01:11:15,147
Speaker 4: No, it's good.

1425
01:11:15,547 --> 01:11:17,107
Speaker 2: It's cool to see.

1426
01:11:18,787 --> 01:11:21,147
Speaker 24: Good quality nines going around the country. And I think

1427
01:11:21,147 --> 01:11:24,227
Speaker 24: it's just adds to the competition, I guess, and how

1428
01:11:24,267 --> 01:11:25,187
Speaker 24: I want to play my game.

1429
01:11:25,347 --> 01:11:27,027
Speaker 3: We's often hurly. Come on last night I got to

1430
01:11:27,027 --> 01:11:28,827
Speaker 3: try and then I saw him limp off. Is he okay?

1431
01:11:29,707 --> 01:11:29,907
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1432
01:11:29,947 --> 01:11:32,307
Speaker 24: I haven't heard very much, but I think you'd be sweet.

1433
01:11:32,347 --> 01:11:35,347
Speaker 24: He's walking around and hopefully all the.

1434
01:11:35,427 --> 01:11:37,467
Speaker 3: News for some So I guess you just sit back

1435
01:11:37,467 --> 01:11:39,227
Speaker 3: now and cheer for Hawk's Bay tonight. Do you so

1436
01:11:39,307 --> 01:11:40,827
Speaker 3: you can host the final next week?

1437
01:11:41,667 --> 01:11:45,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, it'd be pretty unreal to have a home home

1438
01:11:45,347 --> 01:11:47,827
Speaker 24: final under the stadium with another picked out crowd. It'd

1439
01:11:47,867 --> 01:11:51,187
Speaker 24: be cool to see that. Whatever way that game goes,

1440
01:11:51,227 --> 01:11:54,427
Speaker 24: I guess the boys have to prepare him, prepare.

1441
01:11:54,187 --> 01:11:57,067
Speaker 3: For whim and they talk about earning another Monday, which

1442
01:11:57,147 --> 01:11:59,267
Speaker 3: you guys have obviously done with you with your win

1443
01:11:59,347 --> 01:12:02,507
Speaker 3: last night. What do you think the weak ahead will

1444
01:12:02,547 --> 01:12:04,867
Speaker 3: look like. Do you get the feeling that you'll try

1445
01:12:04,947 --> 01:12:07,267
Speaker 3: as a playing group and think the coaches will encourage

1446
01:12:07,307 --> 01:12:09,547
Speaker 3: you just to treat it like another week, or will

1447
01:12:09,587 --> 01:12:12,187
Speaker 3: you actually embrace the fact that there's a massive game

1448
01:12:12,227 --> 01:12:12,827
Speaker 3: at the end of it.

1449
01:12:13,627 --> 01:12:16,227
Speaker 24: Yeah, definitely, I think it'll be much the same as

1450
01:12:16,667 --> 01:12:17,347
Speaker 24: any other week.

1451
01:12:17,347 --> 01:12:19,507
Speaker 18: I don't think we have to look at it two deep.

1452
01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:22,667
Speaker 24: It's obviously a big game, but if we trust ch

1453
01:12:22,987 --> 01:12:24,867
Speaker 24: our game plan, I think we can get it done.

1454
01:12:25,267 --> 01:12:27,507
Speaker 3: He's starting to get recognized around the streets of Dunedin.

1455
01:12:27,587 --> 01:12:30,987
Speaker 25: Now No, not yet.

1456
01:12:31,107 --> 01:12:34,467
Speaker 3: No, you'd be very modest, mate, and I think there's

1457
01:12:34,507 --> 01:12:36,987
Speaker 3: probably a hallmark of the way you're playing. Hey, Dylan,

1458
01:12:37,027 --> 01:12:39,347
Speaker 3: congrats on last night. Another great performance from you and

1459
01:12:39,387 --> 01:12:42,587
Speaker 3: the Otago boys. I actually, I think anyone outside Christy

1460
01:12:42,587 --> 01:12:44,547
Speaker 3: which hopes that Hawks Bay win tonight so you guys

1461
01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,427
Speaker 3: can host the final. But we'll see how it goes.

1462
01:12:46,467 --> 01:12:48,787
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking the time for a chat. Thanks very much,

1463
01:12:49,027 --> 01:12:51,027
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, Dylan Nego. Dylan Pledger, one

1464
01:12:51,027 --> 01:12:53,907
Speaker 3: of the rising stars of New Zealand rugby pleasure has

1465
01:12:53,987 --> 01:12:57,267
Speaker 3: Aaron Smith energy says this text. I can see him

1466
01:12:57,307 --> 01:12:59,787
Speaker 3: in black for the twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cup. Yeah,

1467
01:12:59,787 --> 01:13:02,307
Speaker 3: who knows that? Who knows? Second semi final tonight, Canterbury

1468
01:13:02,707 --> 01:13:06,507
Speaker 3: against Hawks Bay seven to fifteen. Full commentary on Old

1469
01:13:06,507 --> 01:13:09,907
Speaker 3: Sport and iHeartRadio eighteen away from two. Let's take a break, comeback.

1470
01:13:10,027 --> 01:13:12,147
Speaker 3: You're across the Tasman with Adam Peacock.

1471
01:13:12,787 --> 01:13:16,267
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport, Weekend

1472
01:13:16,387 --> 01:13:20,227
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunner, Homes, New Zealand's

1473
01:13:20,267 --> 01:13:22,307
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News Talks.

1474
01:13:24,827 --> 01:13:28,667
Speaker 3: And Peacock with us. Big day at Randwick today, Adam

1475
01:13:28,707 --> 01:13:32,067
Speaker 3: the everest set to jump around the four fifteen your time?

1476
01:13:32,467 --> 01:13:33,187
Speaker 25: Yeah, huge.

1477
01:13:33,587 --> 01:13:36,667
Speaker 12: It's quickly become the biggest day in Sydney racing and

1478
01:13:37,187 --> 01:13:41,387
Speaker 12: it's vuying I think with Melbourne Cup for the biggest

1479
01:13:41,427 --> 01:13:43,427
Speaker 12: day in racing full stop in Australia.

1480
01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:44,707
Speaker 2: It's mattally fifty.

1481
01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:48,147
Speaker 12: Thousand people at Randwick and they've got it right this

1482
01:13:48,267 --> 01:13:50,387
Speaker 12: year because they've got the international influence. They've got the

1483
01:13:50,427 --> 01:13:53,267
Speaker 12: best horse in Hong Kong who actually is a Kiwi.

1484
01:13:53,347 --> 01:13:56,707
Speaker 12: It was brought out of New Zealand, Carying Rising. He's

1485
01:13:56,707 --> 01:14:00,347
Speaker 12: the dominant favorite in a twenty million dollar Ossie Everest.

1486
01:14:01,507 --> 01:14:04,467
Speaker 12: It's quite extraordinary when you say that sentence. But yeah,

1487
01:14:04,627 --> 01:14:08,027
Speaker 12: which means that all upon will be watching as well,

1488
01:14:08,067 --> 01:14:11,867
Speaker 12: and for betting, that means that pools are juiced up.

1489
01:14:11,907 --> 01:14:14,347
Speaker 12: But in terms of the talk this, well, yeah, it's

1490
01:14:14,387 --> 01:14:16,427
Speaker 12: been all about the Everest, which is Melbourne Cup.

1491
01:14:16,587 --> 01:14:19,747
Speaker 3: Like really, yeah, absolutely brilliant. I watering money. As you say,

1492
01:14:19,787 --> 01:14:21,427
Speaker 3: when you say it, you got to say it quickly

1493
01:14:21,467 --> 01:14:24,347
Speaker 3: otherwise it doesn't seem real, does it. But yeah, looking

1494
01:14:24,387 --> 01:14:27,427
Speaker 3: forward to seeing what happens with Keyward connections. There other

1495
01:14:27,507 --> 01:14:29,987
Speaker 3: metters around today, one of your all time great swimmers,

1496
01:14:30,347 --> 01:14:34,187
Speaker 3: four time Olympic gold medalist, nine time World Championship middleist,

1497
01:14:34,227 --> 01:14:36,787
Speaker 3: including four golds there as well, ari An Titmas, has

1498
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Speaker 3: announced her retirement. What's her legacy?

1499
01:14:39,787 --> 01:14:42,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just a fabulous swimmer and a really down

1500
01:14:42,987 --> 01:14:46,387
Speaker 12: to worth human being obviously, but it's probably more important

1501
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:48,947
Speaker 12: in terms of what she did at the Games and

1502
01:14:48,987 --> 01:14:52,387
Speaker 12: taking on Katie Ladecki, the great American swimmer. Some of

1503
01:14:52,427 --> 01:14:55,747
Speaker 12: those battles at World Championship and Olympic Games level with

1504
01:14:56,307 --> 01:14:59,827
Speaker 12: phenomenal and won't be forgotten soon. But yeah, she's only

1505
01:14:59,867 --> 01:15:02,787
Speaker 12: in her mid twenties. But I guess she's after Paris

1506
01:15:02,867 --> 01:15:05,507
Speaker 12: last year she decided, oh you know what, I'll have

1507
01:15:05,547 --> 01:15:07,227
Speaker 12: a bit of a break and see where I'm at.

1508
01:15:07,467 --> 01:15:09,987
Speaker 12: And then twelve months on, I think she's realized that

1509
01:15:10,027 --> 01:15:12,307
Speaker 12: there's more to life than getting up at three thirty

1510
01:15:12,307 --> 01:15:14,467
Speaker 12: in the morning and going looking at a black line

1511
01:15:14,827 --> 01:15:17,067
Speaker 12: the whole time, so at the bottom of a pool.

1512
01:15:17,147 --> 01:15:21,987
Speaker 12: So yeah, unreal legacy. She'll obviously transition into some kind

1513
01:15:22,027 --> 01:15:26,427
Speaker 12: of public speaking and media role, a lot to offer

1514
01:15:26,627 --> 01:15:30,307
Speaker 12: everything around tipness and yeah, it's a shame that she

1515
01:15:30,747 --> 01:15:33,307
Speaker 12: goes and won't be around for LA But no real shock.

1516
01:15:33,707 --> 01:15:35,987
Speaker 3: I guess it's so funny, isn't she Watually twenty five,

1517
01:15:36,347 --> 01:15:39,307
Speaker 3: she's done so much. I mean that's the swimming nature

1518
01:15:39,347 --> 01:15:41,267
Speaker 3: of swimming, isn't it that they start so young, they

1519
01:15:41,267 --> 01:15:43,347
Speaker 3: achieve so much, and then they've got a whole heap

1520
01:15:43,387 --> 01:15:45,227
Speaker 3: of life left to do to do what they want with.

1521
01:15:45,307 --> 01:15:47,867
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised she's decided to do something different.

1522
01:15:48,507 --> 01:15:51,707
Speaker 12: Yeah, and it is so physically taxic and mentally.

1523
01:15:51,387 --> 01:15:52,827
Speaker 17: As well, just the grind.

1524
01:15:53,067 --> 01:15:57,227
Speaker 12: There's no quick way to becoming an elite Olympic swimmer,

1525
01:15:57,267 --> 01:15:59,707
Speaker 12: especially over the distances that she was swimming two hundred,

1526
01:15:59,747 --> 01:16:02,547
Speaker 12: four hundred, four hundred probably a specialty.

1527
01:16:03,587 --> 01:16:04,387
Speaker 18: That's a lot of work.

1528
01:16:04,507 --> 01:16:05,627
Speaker 2: So yeah, she's.

1529
01:16:06,347 --> 01:16:09,547
Speaker 12: Decided that that's probably enough, thanks very much, and going

1530
01:16:09,587 --> 01:16:10,747
Speaker 12: to something else with my life.

1531
01:16:10,787 --> 01:16:13,187
Speaker 3: We're about a month away from the Ashes getting underway.

1532
01:16:13,187 --> 01:16:15,347
Speaker 3: The first Test starts on the twenty first and November

1533
01:16:15,427 --> 01:16:19,747
Speaker 3: across in Perth. Stuart Broad has stoked the flames by

1534
01:16:19,747 --> 01:16:22,787
Speaker 3: saying that he thinks this is the worst Australian team

1535
01:16:22,787 --> 01:16:24,707
Speaker 3: in about a decade and a half. And imagine those

1536
01:16:24,707 --> 01:16:26,707
Speaker 3: comments have gone down fairly well over there.

1537
01:16:28,507 --> 01:16:32,747
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like you could see where he's coming from.

1538
01:16:32,787 --> 01:16:37,267
Speaker 12: But I mean that's probably more a point at England

1539
01:16:37,307 --> 01:16:39,067
Speaker 12: who haven't been able to win an Ashes in that

1540
01:16:39,107 --> 01:16:46,667
Speaker 12: period where they've been so yeah, it's that they have

1541
01:16:46,827 --> 01:16:49,067
Speaker 12: They've got near us on English soil, but on Australian Saul,

1542
01:16:49,107 --> 01:16:51,467
Speaker 12: I've got nowhere near us in the last couple of occasions,

1543
01:16:51,507 --> 01:16:54,227
Speaker 12: in particular what happened here four years ago. Look, it's

1544
01:16:54,267 --> 01:16:58,667
Speaker 12: going to be an unreal series because it's really hard

1545
01:16:58,707 --> 01:17:02,547
Speaker 12: to define exactly what's what Because England have got a

1546
01:17:02,547 --> 01:17:04,947
Speaker 12: great batting line up, their bowling stocks are good, but

1547
01:17:05,067 --> 01:17:07,227
Speaker 12: if they lose their too quick in Archer and Wood

1548
01:17:08,067 --> 01:17:10,827
Speaker 12: that it looks pretty exposed, whereas our bowling stocks was

1549
01:17:10,867 --> 01:17:13,707
Speaker 12: looking good before Pat complained about his back. So we're

1550
01:17:13,707 --> 01:17:15,587
Speaker 12: still wedding on that. Pat come as our captain now

1551
01:17:15,627 --> 01:17:18,707
Speaker 12: batting lineup, we're still jocking around. Look this week Manus

1552
01:17:18,747 --> 01:17:21,307
Speaker 12: Lavashane scored another centur in Sheffield Shields, so I reckon

1553
01:17:21,347 --> 01:17:23,267
Speaker 12: Marnus is definitely going to be in that top six

1554
01:17:23,307 --> 01:17:26,267
Speaker 12: for Australia. Don't know exactly what spot, so that's good.

1555
01:17:26,307 --> 01:17:28,387
Speaker 12: But Cameron Green has gone down with a side strain,

1556
01:17:28,467 --> 01:17:30,667
Speaker 12: our big all rounder who you know from over there

1557
01:17:30,667 --> 01:17:33,147
Speaker 12: from his center in New Zealand. So yeah, plenty of

1558
01:17:33,267 --> 01:17:36,027
Speaker 12: plenty of questions, plenty of talking points, plenty of accusations

1559
01:17:36,027 --> 01:17:38,187
Speaker 12: to come before the whole thing starts in about a

1560
01:17:38,187 --> 01:17:39,107
Speaker 12: month's time in Perth.

1561
01:17:39,187 --> 01:17:41,627
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and speaking of getting started, the A League is

1562
01:17:41,667 --> 01:17:43,947
Speaker 3: underway the A League Men's competition a couple of games

1563
01:17:44,027 --> 01:17:46,907
Speaker 3: last night, Adelaide United beating SYDNEYFC two one in the

1564
01:17:46,947 --> 01:17:49,987
Speaker 3: opening match. I think who forked Talay former Wellington Phoenix

1565
01:17:50,027 --> 01:17:52,187
Speaker 3: coach of course and Sydney f C coach for the

1566
01:17:52,227 --> 01:17:54,867
Speaker 3: last few seasons. I think he was under pressure anyway.

1567
01:17:54,867 --> 01:17:55,747
Speaker 3: This won't help, will it.

1568
01:17:57,107 --> 01:17:57,867
Speaker 11: No?

1569
01:17:57,867 --> 01:18:01,747
Speaker 12: No, under big pressure and you can see Sydney's weird.

1570
01:18:02,027 --> 01:18:05,627
Speaker 12: They've got some kids coming through. They've probably got on

1571
01:18:05,827 --> 01:18:08,107
Speaker 12: this scene pretty well. They've probably got the best academy

1572
01:18:08,627 --> 01:18:11,307
Speaker 12: in Sydney in terms of playing stocks with this youngster's

1573
01:18:11,347 --> 01:18:13,467
Speaker 12: coming through. But then you look at that starting line

1574
01:18:13,507 --> 01:18:16,387
Speaker 12: up last night and not one that I don't think

1575
01:18:16,427 --> 01:18:18,787
Speaker 12: there's many academy graduates and they had an average starting

1576
01:18:18,787 --> 01:18:21,867
Speaker 12: age of twenty seven and they still get beat. So

1577
01:18:22,347 --> 01:18:24,787
Speaker 12: I don't know exactly where they're at Sydney. They've given

1578
01:18:24,787 --> 01:18:28,467
Speaker 12: them or for a one year contract exactly, ringing endorsement

1579
01:18:28,507 --> 01:18:28,747
Speaker 12: is it?

1580
01:18:29,227 --> 01:18:29,427
Speaker 17: So?

1581
01:18:29,907 --> 01:18:35,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, his first month is filled with a bit of pressure,

1582
01:18:35,187 --> 01:18:37,627
Speaker 12: I reckon and as you say, last night doesn't help me.

1583
01:18:37,867 --> 01:18:40,227
Speaker 12: Brisbane got a good first up win against MacArthur. I

1584
01:18:40,227 --> 01:18:43,507
Speaker 12: thought MacArthur were one of the better sides in recruitment

1585
01:18:44,067 --> 01:18:47,067
Speaker 12: stakes in the off season. But important for Britain. They're

1586
01:18:47,067 --> 01:18:48,827
Speaker 12: trying to reset as a club full stop up there.

1587
01:18:49,147 --> 01:18:51,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Aukland FC and the Wellington Phoenix both in

1588
01:18:52,427 --> 01:18:55,347
Speaker 3: action later on tonight. Auckland f C against Melbourne victory

1589
01:18:55,347 --> 01:18:57,747
Speaker 3: the Phoenix over in Perth. Auckland f c. I mean,

1590
01:18:57,987 --> 01:18:59,787
Speaker 3: we spoke a lot about them last year and their

1591
01:18:59,787 --> 01:19:03,987
Speaker 3: maiden season. Look second season syndrome? Is it a thing?

1592
01:19:03,987 --> 01:19:06,347
Speaker 3: And if it is, how do you avoid falling into it?

1593
01:19:07,507 --> 01:19:10,187
Speaker 12: I just think they've got they've got They've set their

1594
01:19:10,187 --> 01:19:12,987
Speaker 12: structure really well straight away, in terms of recruitment, in

1595
01:19:13,067 --> 01:19:16,987
Speaker 12: terms of personnel, in terms of connection to community. Look

1596
01:19:17,027 --> 01:19:19,467
Speaker 12: at nothing to guarantee and Steph Kayak has got a

1597
01:19:19,547 --> 01:19:21,067
Speaker 12: job in his hands to make sure that what you

1598
01:19:21,067 --> 01:19:23,627
Speaker 12: said there doesn't happen. But you tell me, I see

1599
01:19:23,667 --> 01:19:29,027
Speaker 12: on paper no reason to suggest that Auckland fall even once.

1600
01:19:29,107 --> 01:19:29,987
Speaker 17: But I've got them.

1601
01:19:29,907 --> 01:19:32,107
Speaker 6: As first pass the post for the season.

1602
01:19:33,107 --> 01:19:33,987
Speaker 18: But I don't know.

1603
01:19:34,867 --> 01:19:38,587
Speaker 12: Maybe personnel, a few an heroes might not be there

1604
01:19:38,747 --> 01:19:43,147
Speaker 12: as and people who didn't get the attention pioneers as

1605
01:19:43,187 --> 01:19:45,587
Speaker 12: last year. But I can't see too many reasons to

1606
01:19:45,867 --> 01:19:46,867
Speaker 12: think that they're going to fall.

1607
01:19:47,027 --> 01:19:50,547
Speaker 3: I think outside a goalkeeper they're stronger, actually, But losing

1608
01:19:50,547 --> 01:19:53,547
Speaker 3: Alex Paulson, two time A League goalkeeper of the Year,

1609
01:19:53,547 --> 01:19:55,747
Speaker 3: that's the only question mark for me, and whether Oli

1610
01:19:55,827 --> 01:19:58,747
Speaker 3: sale and or Michael Vaud can fill that void. Other

1611
01:19:58,827 --> 01:20:00,947
Speaker 3: than that, I think you know the players they've brought

1612
01:20:00,947 --> 01:20:03,507
Speaker 3: in and potentially upgrades on what they had. So yeah,

1613
01:20:03,627 --> 01:20:05,147
Speaker 3: like you, I expect them to be in and around

1614
01:20:05,147 --> 01:20:07,587
Speaker 3: the silverware. I guess you won't find out what we've

1615
01:20:07,627 --> 01:20:09,587
Speaker 3: learned about the A League over twenty years. If nothing

1616
01:20:09,667 --> 01:20:12,507
Speaker 3: is certain. It's the most mental league going around, isn't it.

1617
01:20:13,387 --> 01:20:14,227
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1618
01:20:13,827 --> 01:20:16,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, you think you've built a handle and then someone

1619
01:20:16,987 --> 01:20:19,307
Speaker 12: goes off and recruits a couple of guys that you

1620
01:20:19,387 --> 01:20:21,507
Speaker 12: look at their CV and you go oh yeah, and

1621
01:20:21,507 --> 01:20:23,347
Speaker 12: they haven't really done the business in their career and

1622
01:20:23,347 --> 01:20:25,267
Speaker 12: they come out here and they just love the sun

1623
01:20:25,307 --> 01:20:26,987
Speaker 12: on their back or something. I don't know. I mean,

1624
01:20:27,027 --> 01:20:29,547
Speaker 12: look at look at those guys in Adelaide. There were

1625
01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:32,147
Speaker 12: people in Adelaide before last night. I was thinking, no,

1626
01:20:32,147 --> 01:20:34,827
Speaker 12: now the club, where's are going? Blah blah blah blah blah.

1627
01:20:34,907 --> 01:20:36,907
Speaker 12: But me and you see them play like that, You've

1628
01:20:36,907 --> 01:20:39,147
Speaker 12: got probably good one back here that they'll be strong.

1629
01:20:39,147 --> 01:20:40,507
Speaker 17: I think the Reds.

1630
01:20:40,467 --> 01:20:42,867
Speaker 3: Always great chatting Australian Sport with you, Adam thinks, indeed

1631
01:20:42,867 --> 01:20:44,107
Speaker 3: we'll catch up again next week.

1632
01:20:44,187 --> 01:20:45,147
Speaker 18: She is finey have we go one?

1633
01:20:45,147 --> 01:20:46,747
Speaker 3: They have a good one too, mate, Adam Peacock, Our

1634
01:20:46,747 --> 01:20:48,987
Speaker 3: Australian Correspondents seven away from two.

1635
01:20:49,907 --> 01:20:52,187
Speaker 7: When it's down to the line, you make a call.

1636
01:20:52,347 --> 01:20:57,507
Speaker 7: On ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hyne, News Talks.

1637
01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,307
Speaker 3: EB coming up four to two. Just reminder our geest

1638
01:21:00,387 --> 01:21:04,467
Speaker 3: after midday Tomorrow on Weekend Sport. Lou Vincent on being

1639
01:21:04,547 --> 01:21:07,707
Speaker 3: lured into match fixing, has life ban from cricket, the

1640
01:21:07,747 --> 01:21:11,467
Speaker 3: relaxing of that ban, his redemption story and his Test

1641
01:21:11,547 --> 01:21:13,547
Speaker 3: Day bull against Australia at the whacker.

1642
01:21:14,187 --> 01:21:16,267
Speaker 6: Before my first ball you take gain, you look up

1643
01:21:16,267 --> 01:21:17,827
Speaker 6: and you see Blem mcgrat at the top of us

1644
01:21:17,867 --> 01:21:19,627
Speaker 6: run up and you can't see any of strains until

1645
01:21:19,627 --> 01:21:21,787
Speaker 6: you look behind the stumps and there's seven slips all

1646
01:21:21,787 --> 01:21:23,947
Speaker 6: clapping their hands, chewing the chewing gum and Steve Will

1647
01:21:23,987 --> 01:21:25,747
Speaker 6: walks up to me and goes hey, Lou. Everybody gets

1648
01:21:25,747 --> 01:21:27,587
Speaker 6: it back to their first game. I just remember walking

1649
01:21:27,627 --> 01:21:28,427
Speaker 6: down to Rigrancy.

1650
01:21:29,267 --> 01:21:30,307
Speaker 2: Steve all knows my name.

1651
01:21:30,347 --> 01:21:31,467
Speaker 6: I'd like to get his autograph.

1652
01:21:32,827 --> 01:21:36,867
Speaker 3: Lou Vinston after a mid Day Tomorrow. Midday Tomorrow with

1653
01:21:36,907 --> 01:21:39,787
Speaker 3: a wide ranging chat, looking very much forward to that.

1654
01:21:40,027 --> 01:21:42,467
Speaker 3: After two, a football hour for you, we get inside

1655
01:21:42,467 --> 01:21:45,587
Speaker 3: the Auckland FC and Wellington Phoenix camps ahead of their

1656
01:21:45,627 --> 01:21:47,467
Speaker 3: A League season. Openers later tonight.

1657
01:21:48,987 --> 01:21:51,907
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1658
01:21:51,987 --> 01:21:55,867
Speaker 1: on and after field. It's all on weekends Ford with

1659
01:21:56,107 --> 01:21:58,987
Speaker 1: Jason Vade on your Home of Sport.

1660
01:22:00,427 --> 01:22:04,227
Speaker 3: Or two o seven. Welcome back in or welcome into

1661
01:22:04,267 --> 01:22:07,067
Speaker 3: the show. This is Weekend Sport until three Tim Beverage

1662
01:22:07,067 --> 01:22:09,387
Speaker 3: to take over with the Weekend Collective. After that heeps

1663
01:22:09,387 --> 01:22:11,947
Speaker 3: to get through Between now and three Big Football Our four.

1664
01:22:11,987 --> 01:22:13,987
Speaker 3: You're going to get you inside the Auckland FC and

1665
01:22:14,027 --> 01:22:17,587
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix camps ahead of their respective A League Football

1666
01:22:17,867 --> 01:22:21,947
Speaker 3: openers or season openers tonight Auckland FC away at Melbourne Victory,

1667
01:22:21,987 --> 01:22:24,627
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix away at Perth Glory. The head coaches and

1668
01:22:24,667 --> 01:22:26,827
Speaker 3: a couple of key players on the show also this

1669
01:22:26,947 --> 01:22:30,627
Speaker 3: hour want to play a sporting chance with you. If

1670
01:22:30,627 --> 01:22:33,187
Speaker 3: you're new to this. What we do is we take

1671
01:22:33,187 --> 01:22:35,747
Speaker 3: a lucky caller, give them a one hundred and fifty

1672
01:22:35,787 --> 01:22:38,747
Speaker 3: dollars bonus bet from the tab and then give them

1673
01:22:38,787 --> 01:22:43,267
Speaker 3: three options to choose from. Our lucky winner chooses which

1674
01:22:43,307 --> 01:22:45,707
Speaker 3: of the three options they want, We place the bet

1675
01:22:45,907 --> 01:22:48,787
Speaker 3: and if it comes in any winnings go straight to

1676
01:22:48,867 --> 01:22:52,827
Speaker 3: our winner. Simple as that. Really, it's a pretty simple concept.

1677
01:22:53,427 --> 01:22:55,787
Speaker 3: We tend to keep things fairly straightforward on the show.

1678
01:22:55,987 --> 01:22:59,307
Speaker 3: A sporting chance will play that well before three o'clock

1679
01:22:59,547 --> 01:23:01,667
Speaker 3: at a time yet to be determined, but we'll let

1680
01:23:01,667 --> 01:23:04,907
Speaker 3: you know when is the time to call us for that.

1681
01:23:05,107 --> 01:23:08,107
Speaker 3: You're our calls and chorus. Pondents on all matters are welcome.

1682
01:23:08,147 --> 01:23:10,787
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty ninet two ninety

1683
01:23:10,787 --> 01:23:13,347
Speaker 3: two for your text messages. We'll keep an eye on

1684
01:23:13,387 --> 01:23:15,827
Speaker 3: the Meads Cup final as well, which has just gotten

1685
01:23:15,907 --> 01:23:19,587
Speaker 3: underway in Ashburton. The home side Mid Canterbury up against

1686
01:23:19,787 --> 01:23:26,147
Speaker 3: Thames Valley just underway now for Meads Cup glory. But

1687
01:23:26,187 --> 01:23:28,227
Speaker 3: as we always do it around about this time on

1688
01:23:28,307 --> 01:23:30,347
Speaker 3: weekend support, it is time to bring you up today

1689
01:23:30,387 --> 01:23:32,627
Speaker 3: with some of the stuff that may have escaped your attention,

1690
01:23:33,187 --> 01:23:35,187
Speaker 3: some of the things that you might not have caught

1691
01:23:35,267 --> 01:23:38,427
Speaker 3: up with. It's in case you missed it, Starting with

1692
01:23:38,547 --> 01:23:42,907
Speaker 3: netball and the Constellation Cup Australia too good for the

1693
01:23:42,947 --> 01:23:45,267
Speaker 3: Silver Ferns and Game one in Melbourne last.

1694
01:23:45,147 --> 01:23:50,547
Speaker 5: Night, seventeen goals ahead, the final hooter goes Australia winners.

1695
01:23:50,867 --> 01:23:56,347
Speaker 5: Australia take first blood in Constellation Cup twenty twenty five

1696
01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:01,187
Speaker 5: fifty two New Zealand sixty nine to the Diamonds.

1697
01:24:01,347 --> 01:24:05,027
Speaker 3: Game two in Sydney on Wednesday night to the NPC

1698
01:24:05,347 --> 01:24:09,867
Speaker 3: Otago into the final. Another terrific performance against Bay of

1699
01:24:09,907 --> 01:24:12,467
Speaker 3: Plenty in their semi final in Danita. There's the siren,

1700
01:24:12,627 --> 01:24:15,867
Speaker 3: here's the crowd back, this time a hasty and it's

1701
01:24:15,907 --> 01:24:18,067
Speaker 3: heading the touch and Paul william.

1702
01:24:17,747 --> 01:24:18,267
Speaker 14: Says that's that.

1703
01:24:18,787 --> 01:24:23,547
Speaker 3: O'tarago through to their fest MPC Grand Final to the

1704
01:24:23,587 --> 01:24:27,147
Speaker 3: Australian National Basketball League. The Breakers getting the job done

1705
01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:30,427
Speaker 3: against the Tasmania jack Jumpers at home last night.

1706
01:24:30,467 --> 01:24:32,307
Speaker 5: And the New Zealand Breakers are going to pick up

1707
01:24:32,347 --> 01:24:37,187
Speaker 5: their second victory of NBL twifty six off the iron.

1708
01:24:37,267 --> 01:24:40,067
Speaker 8: That's all she wrote, The last place New Zealand Breakers

1709
01:24:40,427 --> 01:24:41,067
Speaker 8: not anymore.

1710
01:24:41,187 --> 01:24:42,827
Speaker 3: Here they've climbed off the bottom of the table with

1711
01:24:42,867 --> 01:24:46,067
Speaker 3: an eighty two to sixty five when at Spark Arena

1712
01:24:46,147 --> 01:24:49,187
Speaker 3: last night. The Football's A League two games last night

1713
01:24:49,227 --> 01:24:52,587
Speaker 3: to open the new season, Adelaide United beating Sydney FC.

1714
01:24:52,947 --> 01:24:56,987
Speaker 17: Cooley, it's a good run, it's a great finess ethan

1715
01:24:57,107 --> 01:24:57,667
Speaker 17: other gits.

1716
01:24:58,107 --> 01:25:00,267
Speaker 4: He went and got the falls dap favor.

1717
01:25:00,387 --> 01:25:04,307
Speaker 17: Cooley continued his run and then beat Devinishmears all ends

1718
01:25:04,387 --> 01:25:05,787
Speaker 17: up for the their post.

1719
01:25:05,627 --> 01:25:08,267
Speaker 3: Who won the final scored to Adelaide there Brisbane Raw

1720
01:25:08,347 --> 01:25:10,867
Speaker 3: faced MacArthur in the late game last night, with a

1721
01:25:10,907 --> 01:25:14,227
Speaker 3: penalty deciding the contest. It's a shade for the Raw.

1722
01:25:17,747 --> 01:25:21,147
Speaker 5: Brisbane bets are smiling and jumping in the stairs as

1723
01:25:21,347 --> 01:25:25,307
Speaker 5: Jamo Shade gets the twenty five twenty six season off to.

1724
01:25:25,347 --> 01:25:26,227
Speaker 14: A perfect start.

1725
01:25:26,507 --> 01:25:29,987
Speaker 3: Brisbane won MacArthur. That was the final score. And South

1726
01:25:30,027 --> 01:25:33,627
Speaker 3: Africa have continued their charge at the Women's Cricket World

1727
01:25:33,627 --> 01:25:36,867
Speaker 3: Cup a ten wicket win over Sri Lanka in Paul

1728
01:25:36,907 --> 01:25:39,867
Speaker 3: play set one hundred and twenty one for victory in

1729
01:25:39,907 --> 01:25:43,667
Speaker 3: a rain affected match, South Africa cruised to victory inside

1730
01:25:43,707 --> 01:25:45,987
Speaker 3: fifteen overs to required.

1731
01:25:47,467 --> 01:25:51,707
Speaker 26: Slaps it and South Africa yet again see the victory

1732
01:25:51,707 --> 01:25:55,707
Speaker 26: with a six fifty to Tasman Brutes a third of

1733
01:25:55,747 --> 01:25:58,907
Speaker 26: her career and South Africa are.

1734
01:25:58,827 --> 01:26:03,587
Speaker 20: Four winds in a row against the weather today they've

1735
01:26:03,667 --> 01:26:07,867
Speaker 20: pulled off a strong one and Sri Lanka they win

1736
01:26:07,947 --> 01:26:09,907
Speaker 20: by ten wickets.

1737
01:26:09,947 --> 01:26:13,467
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

1738
01:26:13,587 --> 01:26:16,067
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Hine, News Talks.

1739
01:26:16,427 --> 01:26:18,747
Speaker 3: News Talks, Been Wicked Sport ten past two. Well, as

1740
01:26:18,747 --> 01:26:20,787
Speaker 3: you've just heard as part of Incasha mister, the new

1741
01:26:20,867 --> 01:26:25,307
Speaker 3: A League men's football season is finally here. Adelaide United

1742
01:26:25,387 --> 01:26:28,547
Speaker 3: and Brisbane Raw with home wins to start their respective

1743
01:26:28,947 --> 01:26:34,027
Speaker 3: campaigns last night. Reigning Premier's Auckland FC take on Melbourne

1744
01:26:34,067 --> 01:26:37,187
Speaker 3: Victory at Amy Park and their season opener tonight from

1745
01:26:37,267 --> 01:26:40,307
Speaker 3: nine to thirty five. New Zealand time head coach of

1746
01:26:40,347 --> 01:26:43,267
Speaker 3: the team of Steve Corriker. He's with us, Steve, I'm

1747
01:26:43,267 --> 01:26:46,147
Speaker 3: not actually sure if there is such a thing as

1748
01:26:46,227 --> 01:26:49,587
Speaker 3: second season syndrome, but if there is, how do you

1749
01:26:49,667 --> 01:26:50,187
Speaker 3: avoid it?

1750
01:26:52,227 --> 01:26:54,627
Speaker 27: Forget about the first year and just concentrate on the

1751
01:26:54,667 --> 01:26:58,387
Speaker 27: second obviously, So yeah, obviously a lot of the teams

1752
01:26:58,467 --> 01:26:59,267
Speaker 27: know us now.

1753
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:01,427
Speaker 15: We're no surprise to anyone.

1754
01:27:01,547 --> 01:27:06,147
Speaker 27: But I'm more excited because the second year it's a

1755
01:27:06,707 --> 01:27:09,187
Speaker 27: whether we can be as consistent as we were in

1756
01:27:09,187 --> 01:27:11,267
Speaker 27: the first year. For me, if we could do that well,

1757
01:27:11,307 --> 01:27:13,987
Speaker 27: then we've got a great chance of going back to

1758
01:27:14,027 --> 01:27:17,267
Speaker 27: back for premierships and hopefully one better in the Grand Final.

1759
01:27:17,667 --> 01:27:21,227
Speaker 3: How have you managed to retain the hunger in the

1760
01:27:21,267 --> 01:27:27,107
Speaker 3: playing group that you instilled so successfully in season one.

1761
01:27:28,027 --> 01:27:32,787
Speaker 27: I think we've brought in four really good players. Competition

1762
01:27:32,867 --> 01:27:37,347
Speaker 27: for places is always a good way. Fresh faces and

1763
01:27:37,387 --> 01:27:40,347
Speaker 27: no un certain really of their position, and you know

1764
01:27:40,387 --> 01:27:43,747
Speaker 27: with new players coming in there's competition and it's been

1765
01:27:43,787 --> 01:27:47,387
Speaker 27: really good, especially also you know, from the goalkeeper to

1766
01:27:47,427 --> 01:27:48,107
Speaker 27: the strikers.

1767
01:27:49,387 --> 01:27:52,987
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm looking forward to selecting my first team.

1768
01:27:53,387 --> 01:27:55,427
Speaker 27: We've had a couple of injuries as well along the

1769
01:27:55,467 --> 01:27:57,987
Speaker 27: way in pre season, so we're starting to get players

1770
01:27:58,027 --> 01:28:00,067
Speaker 27: back and then starting to fit for the start of

1771
01:28:00,107 --> 01:28:00,547
Speaker 27: the season.

1772
01:28:01,507 --> 01:28:03,467
Speaker 3: I want to ask about a couple of those new faces.

1773
01:28:03,947 --> 01:28:07,347
Speaker 3: The first English striker Sam Cosgrove. Tell us about him

1774
01:28:07,347 --> 01:28:09,587
Speaker 3: and what he will bring to your side.

1775
01:28:11,627 --> 01:28:13,427
Speaker 15: Well, we looked at our squad last year.

1776
01:28:13,507 --> 01:28:15,387
Speaker 27: We get a lot of crosses into the box, so

1777
01:28:15,427 --> 01:28:17,387
Speaker 27: we wanted obviously to go with a little bit of

1778
01:28:17,427 --> 01:28:19,747
Speaker 27: a bigger striker, one that holds the ball up good

1779
01:28:19,787 --> 01:28:21,947
Speaker 27: in the air that you know, when we do get

1780
01:28:21,987 --> 01:28:22,827
Speaker 27: deliveries into.

1781
01:28:22,707 --> 01:28:24,507
Speaker 15: The box that he can go and score his goals.

1782
01:28:25,627 --> 01:28:28,467
Speaker 27: He links up well with player as well for you know,

1783
01:28:28,547 --> 01:28:32,347
Speaker 27: getting other players into the game, So we looked at that.

1784
01:28:32,347 --> 01:28:34,787
Speaker 15: For him and you know, so far he's shown what

1785
01:28:34,787 --> 01:28:35,227
Speaker 15: he can.

1786
01:28:35,107 --> 01:28:36,547
Speaker 2: Do and it's been.

1787
01:28:38,587 --> 01:28:39,947
Speaker 15: A good preseason for him.

1788
01:28:40,067 --> 01:28:42,787
Speaker 27: He's obviously starting to get a lot fitter now to

1789
01:28:42,907 --> 01:28:45,667
Speaker 27: what we expect him to do because I ask a

1790
01:28:45,667 --> 01:28:49,227
Speaker 27: lot from our strikers defensively, but he's looking at a

1791
01:28:49,267 --> 01:28:50,307
Speaker 27: lot fit down and ready to go.

1792
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:54,387
Speaker 3: And Lachlan Brook also comes in. Is he kind of

1793
01:28:54,427 --> 01:28:56,467
Speaker 3: a like for like for Nate Armadino or is he

1794
01:28:56,747 --> 01:29:00,387
Speaker 3: a different type of player a little bit different.

1795
01:29:00,427 --> 01:29:04,627
Speaker 28: I think he's you know, he's very comfortable on the ball,

1796
01:29:04,747 --> 01:29:08,787
Speaker 28: very technical player, good goals. He's got a good cross

1797
01:29:08,787 --> 01:29:12,067
Speaker 28: as well, which we looked at for Sam as well,

1798
01:29:12,067 --> 01:29:16,347
Speaker 28: which could help him. He can play as a ten

1799
01:29:17,347 --> 01:29:19,627
Speaker 28: or in the white areas as well, so it gives

1800
01:29:19,707 --> 01:29:22,027
Speaker 28: us good flexibility with him as well.

1801
01:29:22,907 --> 01:29:26,867
Speaker 15: Obviously, Nada scored you know, numerous amount of goals last year.

1802
01:29:26,867 --> 01:29:28,347
Speaker 27: I think it was about nine I think he got,

1803
01:29:28,427 --> 01:29:30,867
Speaker 27: so you know, he's got to try and chip in

1804
01:29:30,947 --> 01:29:32,147
Speaker 27: as well with a lot of goals.

1805
01:29:32,467 --> 01:29:33,947
Speaker 15: The last time he was in the A League he

1806
01:29:33,987 --> 01:29:37,147
Speaker 15: scored nine with Wonderers, so we're hoping we get much

1807
01:29:37,147 --> 01:29:38,387
Speaker 15: of the same return from him.

1808
01:29:38,987 --> 01:29:40,947
Speaker 3: Who's going to play and goal for you in your

1809
01:29:40,947 --> 01:29:41,707
Speaker 3: first game.

1810
01:29:43,787 --> 01:29:45,907
Speaker 15: We'll at the moment of Michael.

1811
01:29:46,027 --> 01:29:49,587
Speaker 27: Michael will be goals for the first game, so you

1812
01:29:49,587 --> 01:29:52,947
Speaker 27: know he's waited a long time, Michael, He's had obviously

1813
01:29:53,067 --> 01:29:56,427
Speaker 27: Alex in front of him and didn't get a sniff

1814
01:29:56,507 --> 01:29:56,907
Speaker 27: last year.

1815
01:29:56,907 --> 01:30:01,147
Speaker 15: Obviously Alex played every game and that's his opportunity. So

1816
01:30:01,307 --> 01:30:02,827
Speaker 15: the rest is up to him. I can only give

1817
01:30:02,907 --> 01:30:06,747
Speaker 15: him the opportunity to do what we expect from.

1818
01:30:06,667 --> 01:30:11,747
Speaker 27: Him, and then you know that's it. I again, he will,

1819
01:30:11,947 --> 01:30:14,707
Speaker 27: he will take it with both hands, and obviously you

1820
01:30:14,747 --> 01:30:17,147
Speaker 27: know Olie's there to push him along all the way.

1821
01:30:17,227 --> 01:30:20,027
Speaker 27: And you know we're we're happy to have Olie is

1822
01:30:20,067 --> 01:30:23,707
Speaker 27: obviously an Auckland boy as well. It's great to have

1823
01:30:23,747 --> 01:30:26,147
Speaker 27: two very good goalkeepers like we did last season.

1824
01:30:26,627 --> 01:30:28,867
Speaker 3: There's your message to Olie similar to what your message

1825
01:30:28,867 --> 01:30:31,507
Speaker 3: watched to Michael last season. Just just keep the pressure on,

1826
01:30:31,867 --> 01:30:33,947
Speaker 3: wait for the opportunity if and when it comes along.

1827
01:30:34,787 --> 01:30:37,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, you know that's all. And he knew that

1828
01:30:37,307 --> 01:30:39,507
Speaker 15: from from the start. Oli did when he when he

1829
01:30:39,547 --> 01:30:42,107
Speaker 15: came in, so you know, so.

1830
01:30:42,347 --> 01:30:45,107
Speaker 27: Secret he made it clear at the moment he's number one,

1831
01:30:45,187 --> 01:30:47,547
Speaker 27: and then you know it's up to you to either

1832
01:30:47,587 --> 01:30:48,467
Speaker 27: push him out or.

1833
01:30:50,107 --> 01:30:52,947
Speaker 15: Do everything you can too, you know, to keep him

1834
01:30:52,947 --> 01:30:56,107
Speaker 15: on his toes at least so it's they get on

1835
01:30:56,147 --> 01:30:56,627
Speaker 15: really well.

1836
01:30:57,027 --> 01:30:59,587
Speaker 27: They have a good combination. I think they're the good banter.

1837
01:31:00,107 --> 01:31:02,227
Speaker 27: So I'm really pleased with both of them.

1838
01:31:02,707 --> 01:31:06,067
Speaker 3: Will you play in largely the same way as you

1839
01:31:06,147 --> 01:31:07,027
Speaker 3: did last season?

1840
01:31:09,067 --> 01:31:09,267
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1841
01:31:09,347 --> 01:31:09,787
Speaker 2: Possibly.

1842
01:31:09,907 --> 01:31:11,947
Speaker 27: I think we've got a few options, different options. Like

1843
01:31:11,947 --> 01:31:13,387
Speaker 27: I said, we can play with the ten, we can

1844
01:31:13,427 --> 01:31:16,627
Speaker 27: play with the two nines. When Cacemo plays, he's playing

1845
01:31:16,667 --> 01:31:19,187
Speaker 27: like a ten anyway with now with Big Sam and

1846
01:31:20,067 --> 01:31:22,227
Speaker 27: Jesse's had a very good pre season as well.

1847
01:31:22,147 --> 01:31:27,347
Speaker 15: Jesse Randall. So yeah, we've got a few different options

1848
01:31:27,387 --> 01:31:28,387
Speaker 15: to choose from.

1849
01:31:28,427 --> 01:31:32,187
Speaker 27: We went with a back five also last season when

1850
01:31:32,227 --> 01:31:35,187
Speaker 27: we needed to, and you know, that's an option.

1851
01:31:35,307 --> 01:31:37,427
Speaker 15: I think at some stage I would say.

1852
01:31:38,427 --> 01:31:40,347
Speaker 3: You have been around the league for a long time, Steve,

1853
01:31:40,387 --> 01:31:42,667
Speaker 3: as we all know as a player and as a coach.

1854
01:31:42,907 --> 01:31:46,507
Speaker 3: Did you learn anything new last season? Anything new about

1855
01:31:46,547 --> 01:31:48,707
Speaker 3: the league? I guess from being in a startup club

1856
01:31:48,787 --> 01:31:51,027
Speaker 3: or being in a different country that will be valuable

1857
01:31:51,027 --> 01:31:51,907
Speaker 3: to you this time around.

1858
01:31:53,547 --> 01:31:56,667
Speaker 27: I just, you know, I just enjoyed the experience of

1859
01:31:57,267 --> 01:32:00,267
Speaker 27: you know, coaching, and obviously in New Zealand starting our

1860
01:32:00,307 --> 01:32:03,507
Speaker 27: new club, that was really.

1861
01:32:03,227 --> 01:32:04,387
Speaker 15: Exciting for me.

1862
01:32:04,907 --> 01:32:09,667
Speaker 27: And obviously, you know, try Doug. We all we've all enjoyed,

1863
01:32:09,987 --> 01:32:13,547
Speaker 27: you know, putting a good old team together in the

1864
01:32:13,547 --> 01:32:17,027
Speaker 27: first season. Like I said, for me, now it's about

1865
01:32:17,987 --> 01:32:18,427
Speaker 27: I think.

1866
01:32:18,267 --> 01:32:20,747
Speaker 2: We've done that. We showed we've.

1867
01:32:20,067 --> 01:32:23,067
Speaker 27: Got very good players, good talented young locals as well,

1868
01:32:23,987 --> 01:32:26,147
Speaker 27: and now it's time to show that we can do

1869
01:32:26,187 --> 01:32:26,587
Speaker 27: it again.

1870
01:32:26,987 --> 01:32:28,707
Speaker 3: You mentioned a couple of injuries there. I think Nanda

1871
01:32:28,747 --> 01:32:30,347
Speaker 3: Pinik is still a couple of weeks away as new

1872
01:32:30,347 --> 01:32:32,787
Speaker 3: Phelipe Guy Gos. The other one, is it just those

1873
01:32:32,787 --> 01:32:35,547
Speaker 3: two Steve anybody else not in contention week one?

1874
01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:39,227
Speaker 15: No, I think it should be only them two.

1875
01:32:40,067 --> 01:32:42,187
Speaker 27: You know, we had Pushamo out for four to five

1876
01:32:42,227 --> 01:32:46,627
Speaker 27: weeks as well as Dan Hall. But they both played

1877
01:32:46,707 --> 01:32:51,067
Speaker 27: last week against Melbourne City and a friendly, so they

1878
01:32:51,667 --> 01:32:55,227
Speaker 27: they've come through and they should be fined for for

1879
01:32:55,267 --> 01:32:56,907
Speaker 27: the weekend. But in a bit of the two that

1880
01:32:56,987 --> 01:32:59,187
Speaker 27: you you mentioned there at the moment.

1881
01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:02,947
Speaker 3: In Melbourne victory. First up, how much extra spice on

1882
01:33:03,027 --> 01:33:05,787
Speaker 3: this one given a with a side to deny you

1883
01:33:05,827 --> 01:33:07,667
Speaker 3: a spot on the Grand Final last season?

1884
01:33:08,867 --> 01:33:12,627
Speaker 15: Yeah, obviously very spicy. We're looking forward to it.

1885
01:33:12,867 --> 01:33:15,267
Speaker 27: I think being away from home also puts a lot

1886
01:33:15,307 --> 01:33:18,307
Speaker 27: of pressure on them. Being at home first game of season.

1887
01:33:18,987 --> 01:33:21,027
Speaker 27: We want revenge, so I think it's going to be

1888
01:33:21,267 --> 01:33:22,347
Speaker 27: a very good encounter.

1889
01:33:22,427 --> 01:33:23,187
Speaker 25: They're a good team.

1890
01:33:23,227 --> 01:33:26,347
Speaker 15: They've strengthened I think as well. They've They've had a

1891
01:33:26,707 --> 01:33:27,787
Speaker 15: few players leave and.

1892
01:33:27,787 --> 01:33:30,067
Speaker 27: Go overseas and I think they've brought in some really

1893
01:33:30,067 --> 01:33:33,107
Speaker 27: good players as well. So Arthur Dillis is doing a

1894
01:33:33,107 --> 01:33:36,227
Speaker 27: good job there. And yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to

1895
01:33:36,267 --> 01:33:39,627
Speaker 27: the first game. Obviously, you want to get off to

1896
01:33:39,667 --> 01:33:42,907
Speaker 27: a winning start, so hopefully we can do what we've

1897
01:33:42,947 --> 01:33:46,547
Speaker 27: done down in Melbourne in recent times and get the

1898
01:33:46,547 --> 01:33:47,907
Speaker 27: three points to come home with them.

1899
01:33:48,027 --> 01:33:49,347
Speaker 3: And I know you're very much a game at a

1900
01:33:49,427 --> 01:33:53,187
Speaker 3: time kind of boss, but how keen are you to

1901
01:33:53,227 --> 01:33:58,507
Speaker 3: continue your dominance and the Derby's against Wellington Phoenix this season, Well.

1902
01:33:58,347 --> 01:33:59,347
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to them.

1903
01:33:59,387 --> 01:34:00,747
Speaker 15: They're very excited.

1904
01:34:00,907 --> 01:34:05,707
Speaker 27: The first thing you look at when the fixtures come out, Yeah,

1905
01:34:05,947 --> 01:34:08,187
Speaker 27: that's it's another thing. You know, we've got two away

1906
01:34:08,267 --> 01:34:13,787
Speaker 27: this year. We want to continue winning it not you

1907
01:34:14,067 --> 01:34:17,787
Speaker 27: go as long as possible without them beat us. So

1908
01:34:18,467 --> 01:34:21,547
Speaker 27: they're obviously going to be tough again. Derby's are always tough,

1909
01:34:21,667 --> 01:34:26,547
Speaker 27: especially the first one, so hopefully we get similar results

1910
01:34:26,587 --> 01:34:28,427
Speaker 27: that we did last season against them.

1911
01:34:28,267 --> 01:34:30,347
Speaker 3: All right, Steve, we'll leave it there mate, Thanks indeed

1912
01:34:30,387 --> 01:34:32,747
Speaker 3: for joining us on game day. Steve Corika, head coach

1913
01:34:32,987 --> 01:34:35,787
Speaker 3: of Auckland f C. Let's get you inside the plane

1914
01:34:35,787 --> 01:34:38,347
Speaker 3: group now. Defender Dan Hall as with us, Dan, thanks

1915
01:34:38,347 --> 01:34:41,467
Speaker 3: for taking time. Do you still feel the same hunger

1916
01:34:41,987 --> 01:34:44,987
Speaker 3: as you did last season when everything about Auckland f

1917
01:34:45,067 --> 01:34:46,227
Speaker 3: C was fresh and new?

1918
01:34:47,107 --> 01:34:49,347
Speaker 29: Of course, of course thanks for having me Piney. I

1919
01:34:49,427 --> 01:34:53,547
Speaker 29: think you know in this situation even more so. Obviously

1920
01:34:53,627 --> 01:34:56,667
Speaker 29: last year we did great things being minor premiers, but

1921
01:34:57,347 --> 01:34:59,107
Speaker 29: we believe as a team we fell short and we

1922
01:34:59,147 --> 01:35:01,467
Speaker 29: want to rectify that this year. So you know, we're

1923
01:35:01,467 --> 01:35:03,387
Speaker 29: buzzing for the season to start and we can't wait

1924
01:35:03,427 --> 01:35:04,027
Speaker 29: to be out there.

1925
01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:06,947
Speaker 3: You've got some experience of this type. You won the

1926
01:35:06,947 --> 01:35:09,307
Speaker 3: Grand Final what the Mariners in twenty twenty two to

1927
01:35:09,347 --> 01:35:11,747
Speaker 3: twenty three, and then back that up with an even

1928
01:35:11,787 --> 01:35:15,467
Speaker 3: more successful season the following campaign. So what were the

1929
01:35:15,547 --> 01:35:19,467
Speaker 3: keys to following one excellent season with another one?

1930
01:35:20,667 --> 01:35:21,227
Speaker 4: Good question?

1931
01:35:21,427 --> 01:35:25,707
Speaker 29: I think for me, obviously, I believe a lot of

1932
01:35:25,707 --> 01:35:29,627
Speaker 29: team camaraderie is a huge point of improving each year

1933
01:35:29,667 --> 01:35:33,227
Speaker 29: and just sticking together and a hard working, humble team

1934
01:35:33,267 --> 01:35:36,427
Speaker 29: I think gets a lot of good results, so that's

1935
01:35:36,467 --> 01:35:39,267
Speaker 29: definitely something we'll try to implement and obviously there's a

1936
01:35:39,307 --> 01:35:41,027
Speaker 29: little bit of luck involved, but a lot of hard

1937
01:35:41,027 --> 01:35:41,507
Speaker 29: work too.

1938
01:35:41,867 --> 01:35:44,387
Speaker 3: Your last league game was quite some time ago. I

1939
01:35:44,427 --> 01:35:47,427
Speaker 3: know you've had Australia Cup and preseason games in the meantime,

1940
01:35:47,427 --> 01:35:50,587
Speaker 3: but how do you best navigate this very long a

1941
01:35:50,667 --> 01:35:51,467
Speaker 3: league off season.

1942
01:35:51,867 --> 01:35:55,867
Speaker 29: Yeah, obviously the Australian Football Leagues has like the world's

1943
01:35:55,907 --> 01:36:00,507
Speaker 29: longest preseason, so after doing a couple I'm quite conditioned

1944
01:36:00,507 --> 01:36:01,027
Speaker 29: to them now.

1945
01:36:01,067 --> 01:36:05,187
Speaker 4: So but no, for sure, it's all about.

1946
01:36:04,907 --> 01:36:07,987
Speaker 29: Just, you know, not building it up because obviously it's

1947
01:36:07,987 --> 01:36:10,387
Speaker 29: a long season as well. But with a long preseason

1948
01:36:10,427 --> 01:36:12,227
Speaker 29: you have plenty of time to get match fits. So

1949
01:36:13,027 --> 01:36:14,947
Speaker 29: I think here at Auckland we did it very well.

1950
01:36:15,227 --> 01:36:17,227
Speaker 29: We got a lot of preseason games in and just

1951
01:36:17,827 --> 01:36:20,707
Speaker 29: got to try different combinations and work on what the

1952
01:36:20,707 --> 01:36:24,507
Speaker 29: coach wants and hopefully come Saturday that's all there to see.

1953
01:36:24,747 --> 01:36:27,867
Speaker 3: And last season, of course you forged such a cohesive

1954
01:36:27,867 --> 01:36:31,227
Speaker 3: central defensive partnership with Nando Pinnaker. He'll miss the first

1955
01:36:31,227 --> 01:36:33,587
Speaker 3: month or so of the season as he puts the

1956
01:36:33,627 --> 01:36:37,427
Speaker 3: final touches on his recovery from his injury. How strange

1957
01:36:37,467 --> 01:36:38,587
Speaker 3: is it going to be they're looking out to your

1958
01:36:38,627 --> 01:36:40,387
Speaker 3: lift and not seeing Nanda Pineker there.

1959
01:36:40,707 --> 01:36:41,547
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

1960
01:36:42,107 --> 01:36:45,147
Speaker 29: Obviously Nando's a great player and a great person, so

1961
01:36:45,547 --> 01:36:47,867
Speaker 29: I've really enjoyed my time playing next to him and

1962
01:36:48,587 --> 01:36:50,507
Speaker 29: can't wait for when he's back out on the pitch.

1963
01:36:50,587 --> 01:36:53,787
Speaker 29: But yeah, it's going to Obviously you make a good

1964
01:36:53,827 --> 01:36:57,427
Speaker 29: connection with your center back partner. But luckily at Auckland FC,

1965
01:36:57,627 --> 01:37:00,067
Speaker 29: you know we have great depth and whoever takes a

1966
01:37:00,147 --> 01:37:03,227
Speaker 29: field on Saturday, I'm sure we'll do Auckland proud.

1967
01:37:03,427 --> 01:37:06,267
Speaker 3: And you talk about connections. A new goalkeeper behind you

1968
01:37:06,347 --> 01:37:08,307
Speaker 3: as well, Alex Paulson has moved on a course and

1969
01:37:08,347 --> 01:37:11,707
Speaker 3: we know how integral he was to your success last season.

1970
01:37:11,787 --> 01:37:14,947
Speaker 3: So how do you go about building a good relationship

1971
01:37:14,987 --> 01:37:17,947
Speaker 3: with new arrival Olie Sale and also Michael Voud who

1972
01:37:17,987 --> 01:37:19,547
Speaker 3: didn't get to play last season.

1973
01:37:19,987 --> 01:37:21,387
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just in training.

1974
01:37:21,467 --> 01:37:24,707
Speaker 29: You know, you're training with these boys every day, partnerships

1975
01:37:24,707 --> 01:37:28,067
Speaker 29: start to form. You understand play strengths and weaknesses and

1976
01:37:28,067 --> 01:37:30,707
Speaker 29: how you as a team member can help them in

1977
01:37:30,747 --> 01:37:33,507
Speaker 29: their own football journey. So I think just with time

1978
01:37:33,547 --> 01:37:35,587
Speaker 29: and a lot of training and week in week out

1979
01:37:35,667 --> 01:37:39,907
Speaker 29: you get to understand everybody and yeah, hopefully come Saturday

1980
01:37:39,947 --> 01:37:41,427
Speaker 29: that'll be able to show again.

1981
01:37:41,547 --> 01:37:43,227
Speaker 3: How much you're looking forward to getting a crack at

1982
01:37:43,227 --> 01:37:46,787
Speaker 3: Melbourne Victory nice and early this season, given the fact

1983
01:37:46,827 --> 01:37:49,347
Speaker 3: that they were the team that denied you entry into

1984
01:37:49,347 --> 01:37:50,947
Speaker 3: the Grand Final last season.

1985
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:52,427
Speaker 4: Yeah, super excited.

1986
01:37:52,507 --> 01:37:54,907
Speaker 29: I think you know, as you said, it's the longest

1987
01:37:54,907 --> 01:37:56,667
Speaker 29: preseason ever, so you just want to get out there

1988
01:37:56,707 --> 01:37:59,147
Speaker 29: and play again. But to be able to burse Melbourn

1989
01:37:59,227 --> 01:38:02,147
Speaker 29: Victory straightaways. You know, you want to play the best

1990
01:38:02,147 --> 01:38:03,867
Speaker 29: teams and I'm sure Melbourn Victory are going to be

1991
01:38:03,867 --> 01:38:06,587
Speaker 29: a strong team this year, so can't wait to go

1992
01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:08,427
Speaker 29: toe to toe with them and see how we end up.

1993
01:38:08,547 --> 01:38:11,667
Speaker 3: What about personally, Dan, are there still areas you feel

1994
01:38:11,707 --> 01:38:15,187
Speaker 3: that our growth theory is in your own game personally?

1995
01:38:15,507 --> 01:38:16,347
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.

1996
01:38:16,587 --> 01:38:19,747
Speaker 29: I think for me personally, I've always had a growth

1997
01:38:19,787 --> 01:38:22,707
Speaker 29: mindset and I feel like I still have lots of

1998
01:38:22,707 --> 01:38:25,627
Speaker 29: things to learn personally for me this year, you know,

1999
01:38:25,667 --> 01:38:27,627
Speaker 29: I want to try and be more of that leader

2000
01:38:27,707 --> 01:38:31,267
Speaker 29: role and help guide my team and just be a

2001
01:38:31,267 --> 01:38:32,027
Speaker 29: good team member.

2002
01:38:32,067 --> 01:38:34,787
Speaker 4: And obviously there's strengthen off the ball.

2003
01:38:34,827 --> 01:38:37,227
Speaker 29: On the ball that I can definitely try and improve

2004
01:38:37,267 --> 01:38:39,027
Speaker 29: on as the season progresses, and.

2005
01:38:39,027 --> 01:38:41,507
Speaker 3: As far as the team is concerned. While you were

2006
01:38:41,707 --> 01:38:45,347
Speaker 3: obviously well versed with the vagaries of the A League,

2007
01:38:45,347 --> 01:38:47,507
Speaker 3: there were a number of players who hadn't played a

2008
01:38:47,587 --> 01:38:49,387
Speaker 3: league before. Do you think as a team there have

2009
01:38:49,467 --> 01:38:52,667
Speaker 3: been some good lessons to take from your first season

2010
01:38:52,707 --> 01:38:53,427
Speaker 3: in the competition?

2011
01:38:53,747 --> 01:38:57,187
Speaker 29: Yeah, definitely, I think especially last year. Obviously a lot

2012
01:38:57,187 --> 01:39:00,027
Speaker 29: of the boys hadn't played in the league before, so

2013
01:39:00,787 --> 01:39:03,307
Speaker 29: coming into a second year, most players, if not all,

2014
01:39:03,427 --> 01:39:06,467
Speaker 29: have had a taste of a league football, and they know,

2015
01:39:06,187 --> 01:39:10,187
Speaker 29: you know, it's not just it's not just the intensity

2016
01:39:10,187 --> 01:39:11,787
Speaker 29: of the matches. You know, you've got to take into

2017
01:39:11,787 --> 01:39:14,707
Speaker 29: consideration things like the weather, the temperature and stuff like that.

2018
01:39:14,787 --> 01:39:18,147
Speaker 29: So I feel like, off with one year under the belt,

2019
01:39:18,587 --> 01:39:20,147
Speaker 29: the second year, it's only going to go up.

2020
01:39:20,587 --> 01:39:22,187
Speaker 3: And how good are you? And this doc? Oh, by

2021
01:39:22,227 --> 01:39:25,467
Speaker 3: the way, amazing the star of the show.

2022
01:39:26,547 --> 01:39:29,867
Speaker 29: Oh yeah, they said to me, you know, football doesn't

2023
01:39:29,907 --> 01:39:30,227
Speaker 29: work out.

2024
01:39:30,267 --> 01:39:31,547
Speaker 4: Maybe Hollywood or stuff out.

2025
01:39:33,267 --> 01:39:35,067
Speaker 3: Love it it is. It has been a really cool

2026
01:39:35,067 --> 01:39:36,707
Speaker 3: little thing to sort of get us through. But the

2027
01:39:36,787 --> 01:39:38,627
Speaker 3: last bit of the off season hasn't it. Do you

2028
01:39:38,667 --> 01:39:40,627
Speaker 3: know if the cameras are following you for season two.

2029
01:39:40,667 --> 01:39:42,507
Speaker 3: Has that been confirmed yet or not.

2030
01:39:44,107 --> 01:39:46,907
Speaker 29: I'm not sure if it's been confirmed, but I know

2031
01:39:46,947 --> 01:39:50,107
Speaker 29: they're definitely in talks to see if season two can

2032
01:39:50,107 --> 01:39:50,827
Speaker 29: get up and running.

2033
01:39:50,827 --> 01:39:53,427
Speaker 4: But I guess it was just we'll see with time.

2034
01:39:53,267 --> 01:39:55,827
Speaker 3: Indeed, and just to finish obviously in away game to start,

2035
01:39:55,827 --> 01:39:59,707
Speaker 3: but then back home. We know just how how big

2036
01:39:59,787 --> 01:40:02,067
Speaker 3: that crowd was last season in terms of it's it's

2037
01:40:02,107 --> 01:40:04,507
Speaker 3: impact on you guys, and how they they you know,

2038
01:40:04,547 --> 01:40:06,307
Speaker 3: were such a great support to you. How much looking

2039
01:40:06,627 --> 01:40:09,027
Speaker 3: seeing the port back again and those big crowds at go.

2040
01:40:09,067 --> 01:40:14,107
Speaker 29: Media, Oh absolutely buzzing. I think I was not a

2041
01:40:14,147 --> 01:40:17,147
Speaker 29: single person in the team would expect to see how

2042
01:40:17,187 --> 01:40:19,267
Speaker 29: big the port really did turn out so that first

2043
01:40:19,267 --> 01:40:22,747
Speaker 29: game against Brisbane last year, so you know, we just

2044
01:40:22,747 --> 01:40:25,707
Speaker 29: can't wait to get out there again and feel feel

2045
01:40:25,747 --> 01:40:28,467
Speaker 29: their twelfth man behind us as we hopefully go for

2046
01:40:28,467 --> 01:40:30,347
Speaker 29: the three points against Wanderer's first time game.

2047
01:40:30,387 --> 01:40:32,787
Speaker 3: Good on you mate, thanks indeed, Dan, appreciate your time.

2048
01:40:32,867 --> 01:40:35,627
Speaker 3: Dan Hall central defender or one of the central defenders

2049
01:40:36,307 --> 01:40:38,987
Speaker 3: in Auckland FC's squad again this year, a huge part

2050
01:40:38,987 --> 01:40:41,027
Speaker 3: of their success last season and said to be the

2051
01:40:41,107 --> 01:40:43,387
Speaker 3: same again at this time around. Auckland f C open

2052
01:40:43,427 --> 01:40:46,467
Speaker 3: their A League campaign tonight in Melbourne Amy Park. They

2053
01:40:46,547 --> 01:40:49,587
Speaker 3: take on Melbourne Victory from nine to thirty five New

2054
01:40:49,667 --> 01:40:52,467
Speaker 3: Zealand Time. It's two twenty five. We'll take a break

2055
01:40:52,467 --> 01:40:55,347
Speaker 3: and then get inside. The other A League team based

2056
01:40:55,467 --> 01:40:58,707
Speaker 3: on these Shaw's Wellington Phoenix. They're over in Western Australia

2057
01:40:58,747 --> 01:41:01,907
Speaker 3: today on Perth Glory. They're head coach John Carlo Ataliano

2058
01:41:01,947 --> 01:41:02,987
Speaker 3: will talk to us after this.

2059
01:41:04,427 --> 01:41:07,827
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after field call OH eight

2060
01:41:07,947 --> 01:41:11,707
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty weekends Ford with Jason Fain and GJ.

2061
01:41:11,867 --> 01:41:16,227
Speaker 1: Gunner homes New Zealand's first trustedo Milder News Talks ABBY.

2062
01:41:16,347 --> 01:41:18,467
Speaker 3: Two twenty nine on News Talks there'll be twenty one

2063
01:41:18,467 --> 01:41:21,907
Speaker 3: minutes gone in ash Burton, the Homeside Mid Canterbury seven

2064
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:24,827
Speaker 3: points to three ahead of Thames Valley in the Heartland

2065
01:41:24,907 --> 01:41:28,827
Speaker 3: Championship Meads Cup Final. Well we've heard from Aalkland FC.

2066
01:41:28,947 --> 01:41:31,307
Speaker 3: The Wellington Phoenix open their A League men's campaign in

2067
01:41:31,347 --> 01:41:34,667
Speaker 3: Western Australia tonight. They take on Perth Glory from eleven

2068
01:41:34,787 --> 01:41:38,267
Speaker 3: forty five pm tonight. New Zealand Time. Head coaches gian

2069
01:41:38,347 --> 01:41:41,507
Speaker 3: Colo Ataliano who joins US now John Color. How ready

2070
01:41:41,587 --> 01:41:43,347
Speaker 3: do you feel for the start of the new season.

2071
01:41:44,547 --> 01:41:47,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, we're we're ready to go. Like it's been

2072
01:41:47,547 --> 01:41:51,227
Speaker 17: a really good preseason. We've had good running games now

2073
01:41:51,267 --> 01:41:53,027
Speaker 17: for a month and now we just want to get

2074
01:41:53,027 --> 01:41:55,587
Speaker 17: into the season and start putting our work to play.

2075
01:41:56,107 --> 01:41:59,787
Speaker 3: What do you look for in preseason games that gives

2076
01:41:59,787 --> 01:42:00,627
Speaker 3: you encouragement?

2077
01:42:02,027 --> 01:42:06,827
Speaker 17: Well, obviously, you know, I don't make any phones about it.

2078
01:42:06,907 --> 01:42:10,347
Speaker 17: I'm like a principal based coach that you know that

2079
01:42:10,467 --> 01:42:13,587
Speaker 17: I try to do that through all the coaching and

2080
01:42:14,067 --> 01:42:16,827
Speaker 17: all I'm looking for a markers and certain small white

2081
01:42:16,867 --> 01:42:19,307
Speaker 17: KPIs within games to see if if we hit them.

2082
01:42:19,347 --> 01:42:22,827
Speaker 17: And then what I really love about their games is

2083
01:42:22,867 --> 01:42:24,867
Speaker 17: we're trying something and then we'll go back and then

2084
01:42:25,467 --> 01:42:29,027
Speaker 17: we'll refit it to to how you know, what the

2085
01:42:29,067 --> 01:42:32,507
Speaker 17: system is. And that's probably the most enjoyful part of

2086
01:42:32,627 --> 01:42:35,987
Speaker 17: the preseason is trying to bring this new style to life.

2087
01:42:36,467 --> 01:42:38,507
Speaker 17: And it's it's been going very well. To be fair,

2088
01:42:38,587 --> 01:42:42,827
Speaker 17: I think you know it'll be hard heart in mouth

2089
01:42:42,947 --> 01:42:47,067
Speaker 17: sort of you know, sort of moments this year because

2090
01:42:47,147 --> 01:42:50,347
Speaker 17: you know, we're doing some some different things but what

2091
01:42:50,387 --> 01:42:51,867
Speaker 17: we've seen so far has been really good.

2092
01:42:52,187 --> 01:42:54,867
Speaker 3: Tell us about the changes you've made. You've signaled a

2093
01:42:54,947 --> 01:42:58,027
Speaker 3: change of formation, and you've just outlined there a slightly

2094
01:42:58,067 --> 01:43:01,227
Speaker 3: different way of playing. What are the foundations of your

2095
01:43:01,707 --> 01:43:03,347
Speaker 3: of your different approach this season.

2096
01:43:04,307 --> 01:43:06,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I'll give you a bit of backstory because

2097
01:43:06,787 --> 01:43:10,027
Speaker 17: I think it's important. I think most importantly, when I

2098
01:43:10,067 --> 01:43:13,547
Speaker 17: took the job initially you know, and I transitioned from

2099
01:43:13,987 --> 01:43:16,747
Speaker 17: you know, I already knew the players. I already knew

2100
01:43:16,787 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 17: their limitations, already knew what they could do, and it

2101
01:43:20,147 --> 01:43:22,547
Speaker 17: was more about just building on top of what had

2102
01:43:22,587 --> 01:43:25,627
Speaker 17: been done for four years. So obviously I knew the

2103
01:43:25,667 --> 01:43:28,627
Speaker 17: foundation of the team and all I needed to do

2104
01:43:28,867 --> 01:43:31,227
Speaker 17: was really steer it where I thought I could take

2105
01:43:31,267 --> 01:43:34,067
Speaker 17: the team. It wasn't too much change, So even like

2106
01:43:34,107 --> 01:43:37,347
Speaker 17: implementing the Christmas tree, defending Laura and so on, there

2107
01:43:37,387 --> 01:43:41,427
Speaker 17: weren't things that I felt were too out of norm

2108
01:43:41,907 --> 01:43:45,787
Speaker 17: and I was able to evolve it. But I made

2109
01:43:45,787 --> 01:43:49,147
Speaker 17: the decision after that first season I didn't want to

2110
01:43:49,147 --> 01:43:50,707
Speaker 17: play that way. I wanted to be a little bit

2111
01:43:50,747 --> 01:43:52,067
Speaker 17: more on the front foot. I wanted to be a

2112
01:43:52,067 --> 01:43:53,987
Speaker 17: little bit more fluid in the way we did things,

2113
01:43:54,067 --> 01:43:58,587
Speaker 17: and I try to evolve it last season. But what

2114
01:43:58,787 --> 01:44:01,587
Speaker 17: killed me last season was, for a host of reasons

2115
01:44:01,747 --> 01:44:04,587
Speaker 17: was the availability of players in pre season, so building

2116
01:44:04,667 --> 01:44:08,107
Speaker 17: that foundation of the actual format and you know, trying

2117
01:44:08,107 --> 01:44:10,347
Speaker 17: to evolve it. Maybe I did a little bit too

2118
01:44:10,427 --> 01:44:13,827
Speaker 17: much too quickly, and then on top of that, didn't

2119
01:44:13,827 --> 01:44:17,187
Speaker 17: have enough time. So if you look at the first

2120
01:44:17,187 --> 01:44:19,667
Speaker 17: part of the season, even though we're getting results, there

2121
01:44:19,667 --> 01:44:23,507
Speaker 17: were more results me plugging holes and trying to get

2122
01:44:23,547 --> 01:44:25,387
Speaker 17: us competitive to a game, but we had no real

2123
01:44:25,427 --> 01:44:28,907
Speaker 17: solid courts. So you know, we're a recess at the

2124
01:44:28,987 --> 01:44:31,907
Speaker 17: end of last season. And you know, we obviously had

2125
01:44:31,987 --> 01:44:33,427
Speaker 17: a lot of we had a host of problems that

2126
01:44:33,467 --> 01:44:35,267
Speaker 17: I need to saw through. But one of the things

2127
01:44:35,307 --> 01:44:38,227
Speaker 17: that were really evident was I was like, Okay, I

2128
01:44:38,307 --> 01:44:41,667
Speaker 17: need to actually give the team a solid foundation now

2129
01:44:41,867 --> 01:44:43,827
Speaker 17: on what we're going to grow for the next couple

2130
01:44:43,867 --> 01:44:48,267
Speaker 17: of years. So you know, I made no secrets. You know,

2131
01:44:48,267 --> 01:44:51,067
Speaker 17: I'm going to go to a three four three, and

2132
01:44:51,147 --> 01:44:52,867
Speaker 17: we're going to have certain principles that are going to

2133
01:44:52,907 --> 01:44:54,787
Speaker 17: stick within the team now for the next couple of

2134
01:44:54,867 --> 01:44:57,787
Speaker 17: years that are going to be the foundation. So from that,

2135
01:44:58,747 --> 01:45:02,867
Speaker 17: if I fast forward you know, let's say, you know,

2136
01:45:02,907 --> 01:45:04,387
Speaker 17: a couple of years from down the track and the

2137
01:45:04,427 --> 01:45:08,027
Speaker 17: team's doing well, then I can start manipulating that shape,

2138
01:45:08,067 --> 01:45:11,747
Speaker 17: that foundation ideas and then do a host of things,

2139
01:45:11,827 --> 01:45:13,787
Speaker 17: is which is what I did in that first year

2140
01:45:13,827 --> 01:45:17,227
Speaker 17: when I took over. So that's the thinking. And I

2141
01:45:17,267 --> 01:45:20,227
Speaker 17: think having a reference point for the players that they

2142
01:45:20,347 --> 01:45:24,187
Speaker 17: understand fundamentally who we are, how we play, then all

2143
01:45:24,187 --> 01:45:26,427
Speaker 17: the other stuff is easy to execute.

2144
01:45:26,987 --> 01:45:28,947
Speaker 3: So what are the key principles then of the way

2145
01:45:28,987 --> 01:45:30,347
Speaker 3: you want to play?

2146
01:45:30,907 --> 01:45:33,627
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I think the most important thing is, you know,

2147
01:45:33,747 --> 01:45:37,107
Speaker 17: we're going to press this season. We're going to be

2148
01:45:37,107 --> 01:45:40,267
Speaker 17: a lot, you know, a lot more focused on keeping

2149
01:45:40,307 --> 01:45:46,147
Speaker 17: the opposition in their defensive half. That'll be our primary focus.

2150
01:45:47,187 --> 01:45:49,427
Speaker 17: Still adding on principles of like the way I want

2151
01:45:49,427 --> 01:45:52,147
Speaker 17: to build up in terms of you know, you know,

2152
01:45:52,227 --> 01:45:54,987
Speaker 17: I've got I've got low clear evidence. You know, I

2153
01:45:55,147 --> 01:45:58,147
Speaker 17: like to be good with the ball, quick, quick combinations.

2154
01:45:59,187 --> 01:46:02,547
Speaker 17: But there's a more focus emphasis now on final third

2155
01:46:02,667 --> 01:46:05,947
Speaker 17: entries and so on. And the good thing about this

2156
01:46:05,987 --> 01:46:09,907
Speaker 17: PRECS and restarting really with you know a good chunk

2157
01:46:09,907 --> 01:46:11,987
Speaker 17: of players that have come in now is I've been

2158
01:46:12,027 --> 01:46:14,067
Speaker 17: able to get those players that I feel like fit

2159
01:46:14,107 --> 01:46:17,467
Speaker 17: the system more, whereas I had a crossover maybe over

2160
01:46:17,467 --> 01:46:20,707
Speaker 17: the last couple of seasons of the team that was

2161
01:46:20,747 --> 01:46:24,067
Speaker 17: before and so on. So it's been a slow process,

2162
01:46:24,107 --> 01:46:28,747
Speaker 17: but it's been it's been actually really like it's really

2163
01:46:28,787 --> 01:46:30,707
Speaker 17: raised my energy levels with the players that were brought

2164
01:46:30,747 --> 01:46:34,027
Speaker 17: in that will been very fresh and good for the

2165
01:46:34,027 --> 01:46:34,627
Speaker 17: group as well.

2166
01:46:34,787 --> 01:46:38,067
Speaker 3: So the recruitment strategy was was directly related to I

2167
01:46:38,107 --> 01:46:40,467
Speaker 3: mean the sounds obvious, doesn't it, but directly related to

2168
01:46:40,707 --> 01:46:43,387
Speaker 3: the way you wanted to play the players and they

2169
01:46:43,427 --> 01:46:44,587
Speaker 3: fit the blueprint you're after.

2170
01:46:44,907 --> 01:46:47,467
Speaker 17: Yeah, So like you if you look at a player

2171
01:46:47,507 --> 01:46:52,507
Speaker 17: like color Amiento that I brought in, you know, traditionally

2172
01:46:52,547 --> 01:46:55,667
Speaker 17: not a defensive player, but I've converted him into more

2173
01:46:55,707 --> 01:46:59,587
Speaker 17: of attacking wing back and that suits you style. It's

2174
01:46:59,627 --> 01:47:04,787
Speaker 17: just more about getting his defensive output and to the

2175
01:47:04,867 --> 01:47:08,307
Speaker 17: level that we need. And we brought in Rami Nazarene.

2176
01:47:09,227 --> 01:47:11,547
Speaker 17: You know, he's a great poker player if you watch him,

2177
01:47:11,547 --> 01:47:14,347
Speaker 17: like really excited when he plays. Is a nice player

2178
01:47:14,387 --> 01:47:16,627
Speaker 17: to watch, and I think we missed that last season

2179
01:47:17,747 --> 01:47:22,227
Speaker 17: and the one that I thought, you know, unfortunately he

2180
01:47:22,387 --> 01:47:23,827
Speaker 17: got a bit of Australia, but he'll be back in

2181
01:47:23,827 --> 01:47:25,507
Speaker 17: a couple of weeks. Is Nicola Mille using it?

2182
01:47:25,627 --> 01:47:25,787
Speaker 7: You know?

2183
01:47:25,867 --> 01:47:28,027
Speaker 17: I think if you watched him with Zi in the

2184
01:47:28,027 --> 01:47:29,947
Speaker 17: first part of the pre season, I was so excited

2185
01:47:30,427 --> 01:47:33,987
Speaker 17: because they were just different but the same sort of player.

2186
01:47:34,067 --> 01:47:37,627
Speaker 17: But they worked really well together. So I've been really

2187
01:47:37,627 --> 01:47:38,147
Speaker 17: happy with that.

2188
01:47:39,147 --> 01:47:42,307
Speaker 3: In terms of the recruitment, just a couple of about

2189
01:47:42,307 --> 01:47:44,907
Speaker 3: this weekend, you've got Tim Payne and Lucas Kelly hild

2190
01:47:44,987 --> 01:47:47,587
Speaker 3: returning from All Whites duty. Presumably they just meet you

2191
01:47:47,627 --> 01:47:52,147
Speaker 3: in Perth. They've watched up okay term in particular, will

2192
01:47:52,187 --> 01:47:54,547
Speaker 3: he will he be up for ninety minutes do you think?

2193
01:47:55,107 --> 01:47:57,267
Speaker 17: Yeah, we'll assess today to see how he is. I

2194
01:47:57,307 --> 01:47:59,187
Speaker 17: think he came in last night, so I missed him.

2195
01:47:59,227 --> 01:48:01,507
Speaker 17: I think he went straight to his hotel room. I

2196
01:48:01,547 --> 01:48:04,027
Speaker 17: saw Lucas. He looked fine a little bit yet lagged

2197
01:48:04,427 --> 01:48:10,387
Speaker 17: as expected. But we'll assess today. At training. They train

2198
01:48:10,787 --> 01:48:12,627
Speaker 17: this evening, so it gives a bit of time to

2199
01:48:12,667 --> 01:48:16,187
Speaker 17: recover and they can sleep in more so we acclimatize

2200
01:48:16,187 --> 01:48:18,547
Speaker 17: also here without training towards game time, so we try

2201
01:48:18,547 --> 01:48:21,547
Speaker 17: to keep him in back with their body clocks, so

2202
01:48:21,827 --> 01:48:22,707
Speaker 17: hopefully that helps.

2203
01:48:23,027 --> 01:48:26,707
Speaker 3: So guys like those two Rufer Luke brook Smith who

2204
01:48:26,827 --> 01:48:29,427
Speaker 3: have been in and around the all whites environment Snow Sacred.

2205
01:48:29,427 --> 01:48:32,387
Speaker 3: There's a World Cup next year. Do you talk to

2206
01:48:32,427 --> 01:48:35,787
Speaker 3: them about their all whites aspirations or are they just

2207
01:48:37,027 --> 01:48:38,827
Speaker 3: a byproduct of playing well for you?

2208
01:48:40,547 --> 01:48:42,947
Speaker 17: I think I said this in my last interview, me

2209
01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:45,827
Speaker 17: talking to them, I think does more is more detrimental

2210
01:48:46,427 --> 01:48:51,387
Speaker 17: than it is, you know, a positive. They all those

2211
01:48:51,387 --> 01:48:54,027
Speaker 17: players that are in contention put their own pressure on themselves.

2212
01:48:54,067 --> 01:48:56,947
Speaker 17: They don't need me, you know, to double down. And

2213
01:48:57,107 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 17: you know, obviously I've had conversations with the players in

2214
01:48:59,427 --> 01:49:03,227
Speaker 17: terms of what targets are. You know, we do that

2215
01:49:03,267 --> 01:49:04,747
Speaker 17: for all the players. You know, we make sure that

2216
01:49:04,787 --> 01:49:07,147
Speaker 17: you know, we put a roadmap for the season successful play.

2217
01:49:08,227 --> 01:49:09,707
Speaker 17: You know, they all want to go to a World Cup.

2218
01:49:11,067 --> 01:49:14,147
Speaker 17: I keep saying, everyone looks towards painting in Ruff has

2219
01:49:14,147 --> 01:49:16,867
Speaker 17: been obviously the obvious ones because they've been part part

2220
01:49:16,907 --> 01:49:18,347
Speaker 17: of the squad. But I like to think there might

2221
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:20,067
Speaker 17: be one or two players that no one's thinking about

2222
01:49:20,107 --> 01:49:22,427
Speaker 17: now that will jump you jump out in this season.

2223
01:49:22,427 --> 01:49:24,827
Speaker 17: I've seen it so many times, and I try to

2224
01:49:24,827 --> 01:49:30,267
Speaker 17: give belief to those players that anything is possible. You know,

2225
01:49:32,027 --> 01:49:34,707
Speaker 17: you know the all whites as well. You know, they're

2226
01:49:34,707 --> 01:49:38,187
Speaker 17: probably not getting the right run of results at the moment.

2227
01:49:38,307 --> 01:49:42,027
Speaker 17: So sometimes that puts a little bit of in the

2228
01:49:42,067 --> 01:49:44,347
Speaker 17: coach and the coaching stuff, and they might be looking,

2229
01:49:44,547 --> 01:49:47,507
Speaker 17: you know, for different different options. And I think for me,

2230
01:49:47,587 --> 01:49:49,947
Speaker 17: the most important thing is we play well. We play

2231
01:49:49,947 --> 01:49:53,387
Speaker 17: a good style. Everyone loves watching us play. You know,

2232
01:49:53,427 --> 01:49:55,347
Speaker 17: if we do well, then you know, it'd be like

2233
01:49:55,387 --> 01:49:57,587
Speaker 17: a couple of years ago. You know, Oldie comes out,

2234
01:49:58,067 --> 01:50:00,547
Speaker 17: you know has a breakout. You know Poulsen comes out

2235
01:50:00,547 --> 01:50:03,707
Speaker 17: as a breakout inserment, So anything is possible.

2236
01:50:04,707 --> 01:50:05,787
Speaker 3: Do you feel any pressure.

2237
01:50:07,947 --> 01:50:10,787
Speaker 17: I think I felt more pressure last year in the

2238
01:50:10,827 --> 01:50:14,387
Speaker 17: sense that wasn't the results that worried me. It was

2239
01:50:14,427 --> 01:50:16,787
Speaker 17: more what was going on the pitch in terms of

2240
01:50:16,827 --> 01:50:20,427
Speaker 17: performance that that really irks me. But I actually probably

2241
01:50:20,427 --> 01:50:24,147
Speaker 17: felt even more pressure the year before because I'd win

2242
01:50:24,187 --> 01:50:27,747
Speaker 17: a game, I'm still getting smashed by people, and then

2243
01:50:27,787 --> 01:50:30,747
Speaker 17: I realized I can't do anything right even when I

2244
01:50:30,827 --> 01:50:37,227
Speaker 17: win a game. So look, I think for a large

2245
01:50:37,267 --> 01:50:41,707
Speaker 17: pub the pressure is the own pressure you create for yourself.

2246
01:50:41,827 --> 01:50:45,587
Speaker 17: It's not from anyone else. Like you know, I'm a workaholic.

2247
01:50:45,707 --> 01:50:47,627
Speaker 17: You know, I feel like I'm a perfectionist when it

2248
01:50:47,627 --> 01:50:51,747
Speaker 17: comes to work. So when something doesn't work, it just compounds,

2249
01:50:51,827 --> 01:50:55,907
Speaker 17: and you know, I get very frustrated and I give

2250
01:50:55,987 --> 01:50:58,827
Speaker 17: one hundred percent. And you know, I've been very open

2251
01:50:58,867 --> 01:51:03,667
Speaker 17: about you know, what happened last season as well, that

2252
01:51:03,787 --> 01:51:06,587
Speaker 17: pressure of trying to protect the scene actually probably did

2253
01:51:06,627 --> 01:51:09,867
Speaker 17: more harm to the team than than good. But I

2254
01:51:09,907 --> 01:51:12,827
Speaker 17: was able to come away self reflect and this season,

2255
01:51:13,667 --> 01:51:18,067
Speaker 17: I just get the feeling that with the group, you know,

2256
01:51:18,427 --> 01:51:20,947
Speaker 17: they all have the same focus I do, and I

2257
01:51:20,987 --> 01:51:23,427
Speaker 17: can't ask for anything else. I mean, you know, we

2258
01:51:23,427 --> 01:51:25,667
Speaker 17: could lose the first four games of this season, play

2259
01:51:25,827 --> 01:51:28,747
Speaker 17: unbelievably well you know, what does that mean? You know

2260
01:51:29,027 --> 01:51:31,227
Speaker 17: what happens if we win the first four and we're terrible?

2261
01:51:31,307 --> 01:51:31,947
Speaker 17: What does that mean?

2262
01:51:32,067 --> 01:51:32,307
Speaker 2: You know?

2263
01:51:34,267 --> 01:51:37,187
Speaker 17: But for me, I just again my focus this season

2264
01:51:37,307 --> 01:51:40,507
Speaker 17: is as cheesy as it sounds. We want to entertain,

2265
01:51:40,587 --> 01:51:42,947
Speaker 17: we want to be the best footballing team in the competition.

2266
01:51:43,027 --> 01:51:46,867
Speaker 17: We'll do things that you know that our fans will

2267
01:51:46,907 --> 01:51:50,467
Speaker 17: be very happy with and if we win games, fantastic,

2268
01:51:50,507 --> 01:51:53,107
Speaker 17: you know, But again, you know it's going to be

2269
01:51:53,227 --> 01:51:55,307
Speaker 17: a rollercoaster of a season. I'm looking forward to it.

2270
01:51:55,427 --> 01:51:58,587
Speaker 3: SIMI all the best against Perth Glory. First up, Jeffy,

2271
01:51:58,587 --> 01:52:01,227
Speaker 3: thanks for chatting. We'll catch up, no doubt many times

2272
01:52:01,267 --> 01:52:01,987
Speaker 3: throughout the season.

2273
01:52:02,427 --> 01:52:03,707
Speaker 4: Thanks Connie, Thank you.

2274
01:52:03,787 --> 01:52:06,667
Speaker 3: Chief Jihn calo A Taliallo. They're the head coach of

2275
01:52:06,707 --> 01:52:09,147
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix, so tonight take on Perth Glory in their season.

2276
01:52:09,147 --> 01:52:11,707
Speaker 3: Hope we'll get inside the playing squad with josh olawa

2277
01:52:11,787 --> 01:52:15,307
Speaker 3: Emi before too much longer, Craig says Piney. Did last

2278
01:52:15,307 --> 01:52:17,707
Speaker 3: week's sporting chants come in? I think they took the

2279
01:52:17,827 --> 01:52:20,827
Speaker 3: lower odds on offer, but I can't remember what it was.

2280
01:52:20,827 --> 01:52:25,027
Speaker 3: Was it Bathurst, Craig? It was it was our lucky

2281
01:52:25,187 --> 01:52:28,147
Speaker 3: winner last week did go for the short option. It

2282
01:52:28,187 --> 01:52:32,347
Speaker 3: was Brodiekostecki to win the top ten shootout. Brodiekostecki did

2283
01:52:32,387 --> 01:52:35,827
Speaker 3: indeed win the top ten shootout, so he was a winner.

2284
01:52:36,307 --> 01:52:38,547
Speaker 3: If you'd like to have a crack, let's play a

2285
01:52:38,547 --> 01:52:40,867
Speaker 3: sporting chance with a tab. I'm going to offer you

2286
01:52:41,187 --> 01:52:45,067
Speaker 3: the choice of three bets short, evens or long. You

2287
01:52:45,187 --> 01:52:47,387
Speaker 3: decide which one you want. We will place a one

2288
01:52:47,507 --> 01:52:51,147
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet on your behalf if

2289
01:52:51,187 --> 01:52:53,667
Speaker 3: it comes home. The winnings minus the initial one to fifty,

2290
01:52:53,707 --> 01:52:56,387
Speaker 3: of course, are all yours. You must be over eighteen

2291
01:52:56,507 --> 01:52:58,667
Speaker 3: if you'd like to play call now, Oh eight hundred

2292
01:52:58,667 --> 01:52:59,987
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

2293
01:53:01,147 --> 01:53:02,427
Speaker 7: You be the TMO.

2294
01:53:02,467 --> 01:53:04,867
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2295
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2298
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Speaker 3: Yes it is. As mentioned before the break, it's a

2299
01:53:22,107 --> 01:53:24,787
Speaker 3: pretty easy concept. Really. We've got three options here, short,

2300
01:53:24,827 --> 01:53:27,427
Speaker 3: evens or long. Gonna put Ivan on the air shortly.

2301
01:53:27,547 --> 01:53:29,427
Speaker 3: Ivan's going to choose one of the three options. We'll

2302
01:53:29,427 --> 01:53:32,627
Speaker 3: place it for him and if it comes home, any

2303
01:53:32,667 --> 01:53:36,987
Speaker 3: winnings will be his. Pretty easy concept to understand, Ivan.

2304
01:53:37,587 --> 01:53:38,627
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course it is.

2305
01:53:38,707 --> 01:53:39,067
Speaker 13: Mate.

2306
01:53:39,387 --> 01:53:42,467
Speaker 3: All right, I'll give you three options. You can sort

2307
01:53:42,467 --> 01:53:45,387
Speaker 3: of ruminate over them for a few seconds and tell

2308
01:53:45,467 --> 01:53:49,667
Speaker 3: us which one you're after. Okay, Okay, here's the short option.

2309
01:53:49,827 --> 01:53:52,627
Speaker 3: It's called the longest offseason is finally over special. It's

2310
01:53:52,627 --> 01:53:56,507
Speaker 3: to do with a league football Melbourne victory Auckland FC tonight.

2311
01:53:56,747 --> 01:54:00,187
Speaker 3: The bet is both teams to score. It's paying a

2312
01:54:00,227 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 3: dollar sixty seven. You would win one hundred dollars and

2313
01:54:03,947 --> 01:54:09,747
Speaker 3: fifty cents. That is your short option. Okay, okay. Even

2314
01:54:10,067 --> 01:54:14,027
Speaker 3: is also an a league football option. It's Perth Glory

2315
01:54:14,107 --> 01:54:17,507
Speaker 3: against Wellington Phoenix tonight. It's for the Phoenix to win.

2316
01:54:17,987 --> 01:54:21,667
Speaker 3: They're paying three dollars sixty You would win three hundred

2317
01:54:21,747 --> 01:54:28,587
Speaker 3: and ninety dollars if that happens. The long option NPC

2318
01:54:28,827 --> 01:54:32,947
Speaker 3: Rugby Canterbury Hawks Bay tonight in christ Church. It's the

2319
01:54:33,067 --> 01:54:36,467
Speaker 3: exact half full time double. What you would need to

2320
01:54:36,507 --> 01:54:39,227
Speaker 3: happen is for Hawks Bay to be ahead at halftime,

2321
01:54:39,827 --> 01:54:42,907
Speaker 3: for Canterbury to be ahead at full time. Just a

2322
01:54:42,987 --> 01:54:45,467
Speaker 3: note that this is only regular time, not extra time

2323
01:54:45,467 --> 01:54:48,107
Speaker 3: if that is needed. But it's paying six it's paying

2324
01:54:48,147 --> 01:54:51,787
Speaker 3: six dollars fifty. You would win eight hundred and twenty

2325
01:54:51,827 --> 01:54:56,467
Speaker 3: five dollars ivan So which do you choose? Both Auckland

2326
01:54:56,547 --> 01:54:58,947
Speaker 3: FC and Melbourne Victory to score in their game tonight,

2327
01:54:58,947 --> 01:55:01,707
Speaker 3: you'd win one hundred bucks and fifty cents. Phoenix to

2328
01:55:01,747 --> 01:55:04,947
Speaker 3: beat Perth you'd win three hundred and ninety or Hawks

2329
01:55:04,947 --> 01:55:07,547
Speaker 3: Bay ahead at halftime can at eighty minutes in the

2330
01:55:07,587 --> 01:55:11,387
Speaker 3: MPC semi you would win eight hundred and twenty five dollars.

2331
01:55:11,467 --> 01:55:12,187
Speaker 3: What are you going to go for?

2332
01:55:13,067 --> 01:55:16,707
Speaker 13: That's the one, that's the one of Canterbury Hawks beat all.

2333
01:55:16,707 --> 01:55:21,147
Speaker 3: Right, So Hawk's bayhead at halftime, Canterbury ahead after eighty minutes, Ivan,

2334
01:55:21,187 --> 01:55:23,467
Speaker 3: you'd win eight hundred and twenty five dollars.

2335
01:55:24,267 --> 01:55:25,227
Speaker 13: I can feel it now.

2336
01:55:25,587 --> 01:55:28,787
Speaker 3: I can feel it now too, Mate. I can't feel

2337
01:55:28,787 --> 01:55:32,547
Speaker 3: it now too, I can feel it. It's coming home, Ivan, Mate,

2338
01:55:32,587 --> 01:55:34,947
Speaker 3: will place that. We'll place that bet for you. Keep

2339
01:55:34,987 --> 01:55:36,747
Speaker 3: close eyes on the game and put you back on hold.

2340
01:55:36,747 --> 01:55:38,907
Speaker 3: Every quick chant to Isaiah, make sure we got your

2341
01:55:38,947 --> 01:55:41,147
Speaker 3: details all correct. We will place the bet for you

2342
01:55:41,227 --> 01:55:44,067
Speaker 3: tonight and keep our fingers crossed. If you get a result,

2343
01:55:44,107 --> 01:55:47,187
Speaker 3: the winnings minus the one fifty all yours eight hundred

2344
01:55:47,187 --> 01:55:50,067
Speaker 3: and twenty five dollars coming your way. Ivan will do

2345
01:55:50,107 --> 01:55:52,267
Speaker 3: it all again next week. Thanks to our mates at

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Speaker 3: the tab. As always, please bet responsibly. News talks here,

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Speaker 3: b it's coming up two forty six. Let's get you

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Speaker 3: inside the Wellington Phoenix camp ahead of their season open

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Speaker 3: in the night against Birth Glory. Goalkeeper Josh all Away.

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Speaker 3: Emmy is with us, Josh, Thanks for chatting mate, How

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Speaker 3: really does the team feel for the new campaign.

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Speaker 25: The team's in a really good place. We've had a

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Speaker 25: strong preseason. Everybody's sharp and there's a good energy around

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Speaker 25: the group. So we're focused for the season and thankfully

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Speaker 25: it's been we've had a lot of fixtures, so it

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Speaker 25: should it should help us in the season.

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Speaker 3: As you prepare for the season ahead, have you talked

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Speaker 3: much about last season or has that kind of been

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Speaker 3: left in the review mirror?

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Speaker 25: One hundred percent. Early on in preseason, we've spoken about

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Speaker 25: last season and we've reflected on it and learned from it,

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Speaker 25: and now at this point the season's about to start,

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Speaker 25: so we're looking to move forward in the rest.

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Speaker 3: How do you reflect personally on what was your first

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Speaker 3: season in the I League?

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Speaker 25: For me, it was a great experience. You know, it's

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Speaker 25: all part of the journey. You're learning new things as

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Speaker 25: you go along. You know, it's been a season of

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Speaker 25: growth and learning for me personally. You know, adapting to

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Speaker 25: the travel, to the to the different style of the

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Speaker 25: league as well has been very good for my development

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Speaker 25: as well. So now going into this season, I just

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Speaker 25: learned from learned from the things of last season.

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Speaker 3: Do you sort of feel better equipped after a season this,

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Speaker 3: I guess there'll be fewer surprises. You'll you know, you

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01:57:23,707 --> 01:57:25,747
Speaker 3: will have been to all of these grounds before, played

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Speaker 3: all of these teams before, albeit some of them have

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Speaker 3: changed personnel. Do you feel as though you're better equipped

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Speaker 3: the second time around?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, definitely, you know, you know what to expect sort

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Speaker 25: of thing. Although different seasons bring different challenges, you know,

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Speaker 25: no seasons the exact same, but it definitely, it definitely

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Speaker 25: plays a part, huge part in the in the familiarity

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Speaker 25: with how the league goes.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So Chief Egian Calotaliana, your head coach, has

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Speaker 3: signaled a change of formation this year, has been very

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Speaker 3: open about it. You're going to play a back three.

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Speaker 3: How does how does that change things for you? Josh?

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Speaker 3: From a goalkeeper's point of view, having a having a

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Speaker 3: back three and for in front of you rather than

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Speaker 3: a back four in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it changes a few things.

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Speaker 25: You know, you have to adapt a bat three, like

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Speaker 25: the angles and the supporting angles that you'd give to

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Speaker 25: your center backs, the way you communicate as well, you know,

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Speaker 25: some tactical changes. The things that it helps, and there

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Speaker 25: are things that you have to stay a bit more

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Speaker 25: alert for you know, in a back three, so it

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Speaker 25: doesn't do too much, but it changes a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And I presume also it'll be from what I've heard,

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Speaker 3: it'll be quite a high line that you play. So

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01:58:38,947 --> 01:58:41,147
Speaker 3: are you being asked to play it from the back

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01:58:41,187 --> 01:58:43,267
Speaker 3: as regularly as you did last season, but also be

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Speaker 3: a bit of a sweeper keeper on occasion?

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01:58:47,507 --> 01:58:52,067
Speaker 25: Yeah, definitely, Especially in this modern game, it's asked for

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01:58:52,107 --> 01:58:54,427
Speaker 25: a lot of keepers to be able to do those things.

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Speaker 23: You know.

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Speaker 25: It's just about recognizing the moments to play out from

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Speaker 25: the back and recognizing the moments to go along, you know.

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Speaker 25: So that's what we plan to do this season, just

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01:59:05,027 --> 01:59:08,587
Speaker 25: play the right moment in the game and produce the

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Speaker 25: right result.

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Speaker 3: How important is it to start well to you know,

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Speaker 3: to get a win or two on the board nice

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Speaker 3: and early in the season.

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Speaker 25: A strong start is really important. It builds momentum, builds

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01:59:21,827 --> 01:59:25,467
Speaker 25: belief that sets the standards early. Every point matters in

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Speaker 25: the league. So we want to come out, focus and organize,

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Speaker 25: ready to perform from day one. But at the same time,

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Speaker 25: it's a very long season. So if we're doing great,

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Speaker 25: we have to keep it going. If we're not, then

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Speaker 25: we have to build upon that.

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Speaker 3: And I know you're only going one game at a

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Speaker 3: time and tonight's game against Perth Glory is your immediate focus.

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01:59:44,427 --> 01:59:48,067
Speaker 3: But how motivated is the team to have some success

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Speaker 3: in the derby's against Aukland FC this season?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:59:52,227 --> 01:59:54,987
Speaker 25: Extremely, those games been and locked us and the fans,

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Speaker 25: you know, So we plan to bring back pride and

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Speaker 25: make a statement for willing.

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Speaker 3: And something I noticed about you last season, Josh, after

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Speaker 3: games it didn't make had a win, loss, draw, where

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Speaker 3: the things had gone well, whether things hadn't gone well,

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Speaker 3: you always took the time after the game to meet

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02:00:14,827 --> 02:00:18,227
Speaker 3: the fans, to sign some autographs, to get a selfie.

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Speaker 3: It would have been easy for you to not do

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Speaker 3: that after a loss, for example, go down the tunnel

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Speaker 3: and just get out of there. What is it that

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Speaker 3: motivate you to make sure that you still connect with

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Speaker 3: the fans regardless.

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Speaker 25: The fans make the game, to be honest, without the

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Speaker 25: fans we're seen in COVID, you know, it brings the

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Speaker 25: atmosphere out. If we don't have the fans, the fans

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Speaker 25: make the game, you know, And I feel like as players,

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Speaker 25: we owe it to every single fan, you know, to

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Speaker 25: keep us standards fair and to be model professionals, and

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Speaker 25: also to connect with them because we grew up and

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Speaker 25: are fans and wants work fans as well, you know.

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Speaker 25: So that's just the way I am and the way

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Speaker 25: I see things.

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Speaker 3: The other thing about playing the A League is the

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02:01:02,747 --> 02:01:05,987
Speaker 3: long the long off season. It'spent about five months until

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02:01:06,067 --> 02:01:08,867
Speaker 3: last played a game. You must be looking for dectually

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02:01:08,867 --> 02:01:10,547
Speaker 3: getting out there and playing a proper game, are you.

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Speaker 24: I'm it?

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Speaker 25: Chim it chim This is the longest reseason I've ever

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Speaker 25: had in my life.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is all over, mate, it is all over.

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Speaker 3: The new season is finally here. Josh. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 3: the time for a chat to us. Made all the

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Speaker 3: best in game one tonight. Look forward to catching up

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Speaker 3: throughout the season.

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Speaker 25: Thank you playing.

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Speaker 18: It's a pleasure to be here now.

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Speaker 3: It's good to have you on the show, Josh. Thanks indeed.

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Speaker 3: Josh Holloway me goalkeeper for the Phoenix eleven forty five

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Speaker 3: tonight against Perth Glory in their season opener. Just a reminder.

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Speaker 3: Midday tomorrow we're joined by lou Vincent for a wide

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Speaker 3: ranging chat about his well extraordinary life as a black

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Speaker 3: cap lured into match fixing a life ban and now

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Speaker 3: he is helping others, including speaking at a police conference

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Speaker 3: in Melbourne this past week.

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Speaker 6: MCG. Last week, my introduction was to say it was

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02:01:57,987 --> 02:01:59,667
Speaker 6: good to see back here. The last time was here.

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Speaker 6: I faced the world's fastest boor one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 6: one point five till he is an now from Sean

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Speaker 6: hit me twice in the league and I lift him

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Speaker 6: my pants and I drew it on with a vivid

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Speaker 6: and I said, look, I've still got the bruise to

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Speaker 6: prove it.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 6: I've got to smile. I've gotta smile out of the cops.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to get cops giggling. It's good to

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Speaker 6: share some fun stories as well as the dark stories.

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Speaker 6: All your listeners can relate to that. You know, you

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Speaker 6: need bad times to make the good times better and

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Speaker 6: grounds us when we at our lowest points in life,

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Speaker 6: to reassess life and where we want to get to.

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Speaker 6: And again that's that's my role in life now is

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Speaker 6: to help as many people as I can.

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Speaker 3: Lou Vincent after midday tomorrow on Weekend Sports seven Away

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Speaker 3: from three.

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Speaker 7: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 7: Weekend Sport with Jason Pie they call eight hundred and

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Speaker 7: eighties and eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Envy four to three. That is us on Weekend Sport

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Speaker 3: for Today, Tim Beverage after three with the Weekend collect

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Speaker 3: A huge thanks to Wise for producing the Shaw Today.

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Speaker 3: Great work mate, Thanks indeed, thank you for listening in.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget tomorrow, lou Vincent after midday. We've got Paul

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Speaker 3: Cole on the show tomorrow as well, and a whole

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Speaker 3: heap of sport tonight to cover off as well, including

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Speaker 3: the US Grand Prix in Austin, Texas. For taking us out.

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Speaker 3: Someone with a fairly close connection to that part of

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Speaker 3: the world, Janus Joplin the out song today Me and

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Speaker 3: Bobby McGee.

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Speaker 14: See tomorrow at midday.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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