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Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

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Speaker 2: A good afternoon and welcome into Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB. For the first time in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: It is Test Match Saturday and as such the show

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Speaker 2: coming to you today from high in the stands at

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Speaker 2: forsythe Bar Stadium in Dunedin, where in around seven hours

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks in England will be underway in the

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Speaker 2: first All Blacks Test of the year and the first

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Speaker 2: ever under the stewardship of their new head coach Scott Robertson.

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Speaker 2: It is July sixth. Legendary New Zealand running coach Arthur

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Speaker 2: Lydia had born on this day in nineteen seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: it's also twenty eight years to the day July six,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six since the famous Bledisloe Cup Test and

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Speaker 2: the mud, the wind and the rain at Athletic Park

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Speaker 2: time great wet weather performances that day to beat Australia

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Speaker 2: forty three points to six. Now Athletic Park as we

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Speaker 2: know doesn't even exist anymore, and neither as a rugby

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Speaker 2: venue anyway, does Carrisbrook and Dunedin, where the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: played Scotland earlier that year nineteen ninety six. Carrisbrook hosted

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Speaker 2: its last Test match in twenty eleven. Since twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: Test rugby in Dunedin has been played under the roof

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Speaker 2: here at Forsyth Bar Stadium, and tonight for the tenth time,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks will run out here and they'll meet

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Speaker 2: on England's side, who have won just twice in their

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Speaker 2: history on New Zealand soil, never here in Dunedin and

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Speaker 2: not anywhere across our country since two thousand and three.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine, producer Anny McDonald. We're head till three

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Speaker 2: and then we'll take a wee break. Later tonight we'll

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Speaker 2: be back with our Test build up from six. Full

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Speaker 2: live commentary of the Test match here on Newstalks head

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Speaker 2: beat led by Elliott Smith from just after seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Let me paint the picture for you here at Forsyth

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Speaker 2: it's been a cracking couple of days in Duned and

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Speaker 2: I landed here yesterday and again this morning, clear skies, sunshine,

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Speaker 2: I think the city is pretty famous for. Looking out

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Speaker 2: here on the grass, the ground staff are out there

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Speaker 2: just putting the final few finishing touches, the last manicure

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Speaker 2: the sun streaming in and throwing shadows onto the turf here,

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Speaker 2: it just looks an absolute picture. What a place to

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Speaker 2: start Scott Robertson's tenure as All Black's headcatach and for

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks to start in twenty twenty four. One

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Speaker 2: of Dunedin's favorite sons, legendary All Black Ben Smith, standing

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks camp this hour, and we've got an

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Speaker 2: you who I really want to chat with and hear from.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling All Blacks fans? What does a

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Speaker 2: And do you have any sense of trepidation or nervousness

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Speaker 2: your thoughts through to nine two nine two. Other matters

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Speaker 2: All Blacks England Tonight's seven oh five live here on

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Speaker 2: news Talks EDB. The most recent test between these two

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Speaker 2: was in November of twenty twenty two at Twiggenham.

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Speaker 3: And that is full time for your Blacks from twenty

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Speaker 3: and draw twenty five all at Twickenham, England barely fired

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Speaker 3: Twickenham are scarcely believable. Last ten minutes sees the All

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Speaker 3: that test best sums up this all Black side.

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Speaker 4: Of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Some great moments, some dismal moments, and they have a

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Speaker 2: See that seems so long ago, doesn't it. November twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two at Twickenhamber twenty five all draw. Look at

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Speaker 2: great all Blacks from these parts is Ben Smith, World

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Speaker 2: Cup winner in twenty fifteen eighty four test matches, seven

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Speaker 2: of all, how were the All Blacks? Do you think

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of hype around being the first test

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Speaker 2: For some of these plays. The more experienced ones they've

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Speaker 5: I think from what I'm hearing, the sound whites out

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Speaker 5: You know, when you hear the media and different people

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Speaker 5: I hear care a lot around what they're saying, and

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Speaker 5: Was that too many head knocks?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and enjoying your role with the Highlanders that you're

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Speaker 2: Sounds like your guests are ready for your next to

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Speaker 2: your next assignment today, Ben, thanks for taking Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Ben Smith. The good to have Colin Slade in town

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Speaker 2: So let me show. Let me know if you share

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Speaker 2: is Tonight's the biggest? In other words, who has the

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Speaker 2: with that, to send it off to nine two, nine

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Speaker 2: very good.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm very much like you. I don't think I

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Speaker 7: And the reason for that is, I don't know if

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Speaker 7: he was smiling, he was cracking a joke. He was

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Speaker 2: He sorry, mate, Yeah, I can say that. When we

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Speaker 2: I wonder whether there's a little bit of nervousness as

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's bad to be Look, I actually turned down

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Speaker 7: What well, look you get you go to the boxes

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Speaker 7: Julian, No, No, I'm going to watch it on on

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Speaker 2: Julian, I love that, editor, because you know, I loved

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Speaker 2: It's a philosophy I think I share in many ways.

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Speaker 2: Funny funny given the fact that I do the job

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Speaker 9: Not bad, buddy, How are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm good?

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Speaker 11: I got two things.

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Speaker 11: When you go back in a little bit of history,

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Speaker 11: Are some of them with family?

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Speaker 13: Have they had a cafe?

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Speaker 2: I think I think they're all doing whatever it is

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Speaker 2: It must just be I think a very individual thing

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Speaker 2: I saw an interesting point you, Mike. How much do

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Speaker 12: to watch Auckland Grammat versus Saint Peter's. I'm watching it

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Speaker 2: All right, you behave yourself this afternoon.

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Speaker 12: Sid I'm too old to miss behave the.

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Speaker 2: Love it mate, Thanks for calling in and I love

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Speaker 2: Mark asked, you know what the players do to pass

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Speaker 2: of course. Five past seven tonight here on news Talk,

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Speaker 2: said b let's get back to the lines, David, any

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Speaker 14: Who's the ref of tonight?

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Speaker 2: I won't try and pronounce his name, he's the he's Georgian.

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Speaker 2: He's a Georgian referee. Okay, that's all you needed to know.

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Speaker 14: That's all I needed to know. But I think the.

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Speaker 11: We're going for a tough ride tonight.

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Speaker 2: You don't sound overwhelmed with enthusiasm, David, I must say,

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Speaker 2: right mate, Well look get us. Hope the referee doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a big say tonight. I mean, if we get

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Speaker 2: to the end of the game and nobody's talking about

434
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Speaker 2: his performance, then job well done. Thanks for you call

435
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Speaker 2: David oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

436
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Speaker 2: our number. Half past twelve. Anything you want to pick

437
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Speaker 2: up on. I've had a few texts through about players

438
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Speaker 2: for who tonight might be particularly important in terms of

439
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Speaker 2: the way they play. I think Damien mackenzie is obviously one.

440
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Speaker 2: You know, he's been given the opportunit need to wear

441
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Speaker 2: that ten jersey. He wore it a year ago here

442
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Speaker 2: at the same venue against Australia. You might remember this.

443
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Speaker 2: It was an afternoon Test match. He was handed the

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Speaker 2: reins and I think I said to Jack Tame about

445
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Speaker 2: an hour ago. I think Damien had what he would

446
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Speaker 2: probably describe as a mixed performance that day. But he

447
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Speaker 2: is now off the back of a really good season

448
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Speaker 2: with the Chiefs, been handed the keys to the car

449
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Speaker 2: if you want to call it that, and we'll run

450
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Speaker 2: the all blacks around tonight, and I hope he does

451
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Speaker 2: it brilliantly because d MAC at his best is a

452
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Speaker 2: site to behold. So I hope he has a terrific

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Speaker 2: night tonight, Half past twelve back with more of your

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Speaker 2: calls on the All Blacks after this Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty live.

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Speaker 1: From Dunedin's forsythe Bar Stadium on your home of Sport

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Speaker 2: Twelve thirty three. Are the referee Nika A mush Kelly

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Speaker 2: or a mushu Kelly. The Georgian Nick Berry and and

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Speaker 2: Way are the assistants and let's hope we don't have

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Speaker 2: to hear from him. Eric Gowson's Frenchman is in the

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Speaker 2: TMO box. So a Georgian referee to Australian duchies and

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Speaker 2: a Frenchman in the TMO box. That is what we're

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Speaker 2: looking at tonight in terms of afficiating A Patahama, How

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Speaker 2: are you mate?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good Pine, it's been a few weeks. I'm finally

468
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Speaker 10: out of that Hurricane semi final except funk but but yes, match,

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Speaker 10: I'm really excited.

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Speaker 15: Right.

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Speaker 10: This is the first time and I don't know a

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Speaker 10: decade or more than we've got sort of a new regime.

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Speaker 10: And I was speaking of someone the other day is like,

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Speaker 10: you know, Rais has been an all black, Leon has

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Speaker 10: been all black. You know, we've got all blacks coaching

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Speaker 10: all blacks, and we haven't had that for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess see, because Fossy never was one,

478
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Speaker 2: was he? And neither was Steve Hanson, neither was Graham

479
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Speaker 2: Hen't I think Wayne Smith would have been the last one.

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Speaker 2: John Mitchell, Sorry, John, Sorry, John Mitchell, John Mitchell.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, And and you sort of stole my thunder

482
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Speaker 10: a bit with old d Mac. I'm probably I don't know,

483
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Speaker 10: I banged on a bit. He's unproven to me. You

484
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Speaker 10: know you mentioned that Bled he got his chance and

485
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Speaker 10: he got hooked after what fifty minutes or whatever, and

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Speaker 10: they brought me wrong on to close it out. He

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Speaker 10: and I know you caught it, Max. I was at

488
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Speaker 10: that harsh last year when he did that. I caught it.

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Speaker 10: One of the worst performances by an all black ten.

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Speaker 10: And so that's sort of you know, the old the

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Speaker 10: old rock under the towel summer type thing. That's sort

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Speaker 10: of the The uncertain thing for me is that can

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Speaker 10: he drive a Test match team around the same super

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Speaker 10: the same NPC. You are the game driver and there's

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Speaker 10: talk about what the all back's going to play like

496
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Speaker 10: and I don't know the expectation. I think that's raz

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Speaker 10: of dazzle because he's our game driver. But you know

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Speaker 10: when you got Ben Earl and Sam Underhill and some

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Speaker 10: of those boys up in your face and knocking you

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Speaker 10: about as the Blues did, right, themat was not much

501
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Speaker 10: of a factor in that Super Rugby final. And this

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Speaker 10: is Test match footy. I'm super I love the guy

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Speaker 10: as a player, but is he Test number ten? That's

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Speaker 10: what I'm super keen to find out. And hey, this

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Speaker 10: is this.

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Speaker 16: Is going to be.

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Speaker 10: A good test match against a good side. So I

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Speaker 10: don't know. Let's see if you can put that Ozzie

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Speaker 10: led test behind him and drive us to a good winternight, Piney,

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Speaker 10: That's what I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: Good on your Padohama. Always love chatting to you, mate,

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Speaker 2: Glad that you're over the Hurricanes. Funk as am I

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Speaker 2: at least chat again soon, mate, I think yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I think you alluded to it there. Damien McKenzie

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Speaker 2: would have had a rock under the beach towel if

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Speaker 2: we want to use that analogy after the Australian Test

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Speaker 2: here in Dunedin. He did play another five Test matches

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand last year, but you know he never

519
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Speaker 2: started again in the ten jersey. This will be his

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Speaker 2: first start in the ten jersey for the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: since that game against Australia hearing Tooneden back in the

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Speaker 2: start of August of last year. So I'm sure he,

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Speaker 2: of them all, will have a real drive and determination

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Speaker 2: to put that performance behind him, because yeah, mixed is

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Speaker 2: perhaps bigger bit kind. You know, the All Black standards

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Speaker 2: are high, and he didn't have a happy afternoon. Hello Neil, get.

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Speaker 9: A mate, just actually follow on from a petahammer there.

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Speaker 9: The number ten can look good if he's got a

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Speaker 9: solid set of forwards in front of him. So what

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Speaker 9: I want when I'm looking for is the old added

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Speaker 9: you know, everything it starts up front. So I want

532
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Speaker 9: to see the All Blacks with a solid set piece

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Speaker 9: that line out scrum mare at ruck because you know

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Speaker 9: the Poms are going to bring it. They've got a

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Speaker 9: you know, their forward packs pretty muscular. They will look

536
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Speaker 9: like bodybuilders. So we need parity, at least up first.

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Speaker 9: That's where I want to see, you know that the

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Speaker 9: basics done right, and I'm sure they'll get it right

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Speaker 9: with Broser at the helm.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So the other intriguing thing, The one player that I'll

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Speaker 9: be watching is Stephen Pettofetter. Yea, maybe a few, yeah,

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Speaker 9: few eyebrows were raised. I think he's in there on

544
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Speaker 9: his super rugby foreman on the back of a Blues

545
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Speaker 9: team that you know, obviously went pretty well for the season.

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Speaker 9: You know, we all know Will Jordan once he comes right,

547
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Speaker 9: he should be the number one pick at turnback and

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure Raiser will play him in that position.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, for Pedo Fetter, I think it just I

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Speaker 9: hope he steps up tonight and plays solidly, doesn't need

551
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Speaker 9: to be spectacular, just does all the basics right, defends well,

552
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Speaker 9: times into the line when he needs to, punts when

553
00:28:48,267 --> 00:28:51,307
Speaker 9: he needs to. Yeah, he can cement his place if

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Speaker 9: he doesn't make any mistakes. You know, no, no, how

555
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Speaker 9: is that's what I want. Nothing that's going to get

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Speaker 9: him play himself out of the team.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And and Neil, I mean such a good point

558
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Speaker 2: you make about about Will Jordan coming back. I guess

559
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Speaker 2: the same can be said for the likes of t J.

560
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Speaker 2: Pennada from the Christy Cortez Latima when he gets the chance.

561
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Speaker 2: You know, they probably think I'm really just keeping the

562
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Speaker 2: jersey warm in Perlifeter's case for Will Jordan, in the

563
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Speaker 2: half backs case for cam roy Guard. But it's your

564
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Speaker 2: jersey tonight, so go out there and fill it. That's

565
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Speaker 2: that's kind of the attitude I'd be taking. Great dear

566
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Speaker 2: from a Neil thanks for calling it TEXI I think

567
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Speaker 2: the public forget how long it took Richie more on

568
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Speaker 2: that to get a test at number ten. Give dmak

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Speaker 2: the keys for the season and see him grow. I agree,

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Speaker 2: I hope and I'm sure they hope that that Damien

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Speaker 2: McKenzie will wear ten for you know, for the for

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Speaker 2: the entire year. It's your jersey until it's not your

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Speaker 2: jersey anymore. Piney Heering a lot from the New Zealand perspective,

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Speaker 2: says Phil Any Pommy perspective Insight today. Absolutely, Phil, after

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Speaker 2: one o'clock we've got one of the best rugby riders

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Speaker 2: going around. Dan Schofield is going to join us with

577
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Speaker 2: an English perspective after one o'clock, So don't you worry

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Speaker 2: about that my friend.

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Speaker 17: Hello Berry, Hi, what's in my Yeah, just Damien McKenzie's

580
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Speaker 17: then playing a position. He's got ten on his back

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Speaker 17: and that's where he should be. He's seb best den

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Speaker 17: in his Zealand.

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Speaker 2: So you said you said he's he's been played out

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Speaker 2: of position. You mean previously when he's been played at fullback.

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Speaker 17: Well, they just wake up and he's got a fullbacks asshole.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Berry, interesting turn of phrase. I think he enjoys

587
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Speaker 2: playing at number ten and I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: playing at ten tonight. Hello Mark, Thanks Berry, I look Mark,

589
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Speaker 2: you know me, I take all callers.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they used Boat

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Speaker 18: and Barrett coming coming off the bench, whether he goes

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Speaker 18: on for Peter Feder or whether he goes you know,

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Speaker 18: he comes on with the man. Let's say, probably will

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Speaker 18: come on for Peter Feder.

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Speaker 2: Really it feels most likely, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: To me, it's going to be interesting what style of

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Speaker 18: rugby they're going to play, to be honest, and whether

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Speaker 18: they've whether they can defeat the rushing defense that we've

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Speaker 18: seen from European teams for several years now. I think

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Speaker 18: Auckland the Blues probably showed, you know, you've really got

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Speaker 18: to get that front football from your forward pack to

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Speaker 18: get the backs going really before you just strolled out

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Speaker 18: into your back line. And I think that's what they

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Speaker 18: did in twenty fifteen, and they just smothered us, and

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Speaker 18: you know, the backs would get the ball and the

607
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Speaker 18: defense would already be on them, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 18: And I think we need to be able to hopefully

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Speaker 18: with the amount of coaches have got. Never seen so

610
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Speaker 18: many coaches of an all black team, but with the

611
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Speaker 18: amount of coaches have got, you know, specializing in different areas,

612
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Speaker 18: they can come up with a recipes for that because

613
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Speaker 18: the rushing defense and rugby is almost killed the game.

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Speaker 18: The spectacles that came, you know, I mean the last

615
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Speaker 18: rugby well Kapp was a bit of a dinner of

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Speaker 18: a fear. You know, it was pretty pretty tight and

617
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Speaker 18: blowing from a spectator's.

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Speaker 20: Point of view.

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Speaker 18: And I think it would be nice to see something

620
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Speaker 18: like a hybrid super rugby where we can see the

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Speaker 18: excitement of the backs running the ball and you know,

622
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Speaker 18: Mark Tala or some res scoring tries on the wing

623
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Speaker 18: would be great, wuldn't it?

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Speaker 2: I would? And I read a really interesting piece from

625
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Speaker 2: Gregor Paul and The Herald this week. Mark you might

626
00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:41,027
Speaker 2: have seen it as well, and he talked about the

627
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Speaker 2: All Blacks having a test forward pack and a super

628
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Speaker 2: rugby back line. I don't think that was any disrespect

629
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Speaker 2: to the players, but in terms of the way that

630
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Speaker 2: they're able to play, and exactly what you picked up

631
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Speaker 2: on there is if those backs can get some time

632
00:32:54,867 --> 00:32:58,747
Speaker 2: in space, you know, the likes of Jordy Barrett, Ricoe, Juani,

633
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Speaker 2: the back three, Talaya, Reese and Pedifeta, then we could

634
00:33:02,227 --> 00:33:05,107
Speaker 2: see some razzle dazzlad ahead tonight. But you're right about defenders.

635
00:33:05,627 --> 00:33:09,187
Speaker 2: Defense rather, it's become such a priority in international rugby

636
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Speaker 2: now and so much time and detail is given to

637
00:33:12,147 --> 00:33:16,827
Speaker 2: it that, you know, to stopping the opposition that that

638
00:33:17,147 --> 00:33:20,667
Speaker 2: sometimes it can be, as you said, a little bit dour,

639
00:33:20,987 --> 00:33:24,027
Speaker 2: a bit of an arm wrestle. So yeah, we'll see

640
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Speaker 2: what happens tonight, mate. I hope they find some space

641
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Speaker 2: out here on the grass. It's a it's looking a picture.

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Speaker 18: Mate, Yeah for me, I quite like, I'm quite interested

643
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Speaker 18: to see how female will go on, you know, and

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Speaker 18: the forwards and you know, he's been such a dynamic

645
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Speaker 18: player this year for the Hurricanes, and I think he'll

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Speaker 18: be a bit of a surprise when he comes down

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Speaker 18: and blinds up on the wing like Damee.

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Speaker 13: Coles try.

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Speaker 2: Now, they would please me more than those those big

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Speaker 2: thighs of us. I'm more charging down the touch line

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Speaker 2: and dotting down in the corner. Mark, good to chat

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Speaker 2: to you. Shout out to the team in the Sky

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Speaker 2: Sport broadcast truck. Just at a message from one of

654
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Speaker 2: them saying, not only the players and others have to

655
00:34:05,027 --> 00:34:07,347
Speaker 2: pass the time, so do we. They're here already. It's

656
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Speaker 2: only quarter to one. The game doesn't start till seven,

657
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Speaker 2: but the Sky crew they will not rest. Good to

658
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Speaker 2: have you listening into news talks. There'd be this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Get another breakaway back with more of your calls after

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Speaker 2: this just on sixteen away from.

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Speaker 16: One, cutting down to the first Boldlags test of twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four on your home of Sports Weekend Sport Live

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Speaker 1: from Dunedin's Full Side Bar Stadium with Jason Vine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunn the homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

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Speaker 16: News talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Four boarder calls. Let's get back to them.

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Speaker 16: Get a Matt, Yeah, get a pony.

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Speaker 21: How are you am?

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Speaker 2: I very good, Matt, very good.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm I'm actually I'm quite confident about tonight. I

671
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Speaker 22: they the old saying is you know the top two inches, Yes,

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Speaker 22: And I think that that's the feeling I get from

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Speaker 22: from from Robinson as a coach, is that he seems

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Speaker 22: to get the guys thinking and then you know, being

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Speaker 22: positive about this, about what they're doing. And I think

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Speaker 22: that if you can do that in anything in life,

677
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Speaker 22: not just sport, but you know, you know, you can

678
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Speaker 22: go a long way. And I think that's that's that's

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Speaker 22: the key to he's coaching is his ability to do

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Speaker 22: that with not just the you know, players, but I

681
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Speaker 22: think with people around him as well as you. As

682
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Speaker 22: you said in the interview, you know, that's a.

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Speaker 2: Great observation, Matt. It's a it's a terrific observation, mate,

684
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Speaker 2: because you're right, it's super rugby level. You know, give

685
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Speaker 2: or take a few players here and there, they're largely

686
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Speaker 2: the same ability. So it's what the coach can often

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Speaker 2: do in the top two inches, as you've pointed out,

688
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Speaker 2: in terms of motivating those players, managing them, man management,

689
00:35:48,827 --> 00:35:50,827
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. That makes the difference,

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00:35:50,867 --> 00:35:54,107
Speaker 2: and clearly Rais has got something because look at the Crusaders.

691
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Speaker 2: Yes they've had a great roster, but you know you're

692
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Speaker 2: still got to motivate you guys to go out there

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Speaker 2: week in week out and win games.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, well that's right. I mean if you look at

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Speaker 22: you know, you look at New Zealand for example, we

696
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Speaker 22: couldn't in a World Cup for how many years? Twenty

697
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Speaker 22: four years? And you can't say that we didn't have

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Speaker 22: the players, So where was it? It's in the head

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Speaker 22: and you know, once you know, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 22: I learned a lot from watching that Richie mccare movie

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Speaker 22: or that he put out was it Chasing Greatness or whatever,

702
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Speaker 22: about the mental side of it. And yeah, so I

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Speaker 22: mean if you can, if you can do your best

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Speaker 22: to conquer that or accept that, as they say, then

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Speaker 22: you know, I think I think the all backs could

706
00:36:40,187 --> 00:36:43,947
Speaker 22: be now if they do go, I think they will

707
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Speaker 22: give my hiding go on, you.

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Speaker 2: Man, I hope So mate, I've got to move on

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00:36:47,267 --> 00:36:50,867
Speaker 2: to somebody else. Made a great call. And yeah, landing

710
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Speaker 2: on the top two inches is a very perceptive observation.

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Speaker 20: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope that they are all working in that department tonight.

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Speaker 2: How are you, George?

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Speaker 20: Really good things, pioneering and extremely excited mate forasure to

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Speaker 20: be on the on the show today. Hey look, I'm

716
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Speaker 20: I'm I'm I'm fantastically excited about what the new regime

717
00:37:09,267 --> 00:37:12,107
Speaker 20: we're going to bring today under under Raiser who who

718
00:37:12,187 --> 00:37:15,147
Speaker 20: Marks so aptly described as a Catherine Wheel on that

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Speaker 20: as I mentioned sportsfa Podcast heard that, Hey, I don't

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Speaker 20: think there was any bit of description of Raiser and

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Speaker 20: the energies broaden the pr and cons and brand strategy

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Speaker 20: so far has been second to none by the kingmakers

723
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Speaker 20: getting it out there and getting the excitement building. But hey,

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Speaker 20: I want to draw your attention to a little bit

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Speaker 20: of symmetry here. Two thousand and four, the new regime

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00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:43,027
Speaker 20: under Henry began in first opponents coming down under. We're England,

727
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Speaker 20: fresh off the back of their two thousand and three

728
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Speaker 20: Rugby World Cup victory and I don't know if many

729
00:37:48,027 --> 00:37:50,347
Speaker 20: of us can remember back that far, but we absolutely

730
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Speaker 20: took it to the newly crowned World champions and our

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Speaker 20: first few tests and it really set the tone for

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Speaker 20: the dynasty that was to come. I think this England

733
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Speaker 20: team are a whole lot stronger than then. Back then,

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Speaker 20: I know they had a lot of retirements Uster s

735
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Speaker 20: Wild Cup and I do think the Iris series of

736
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Speaker 20: twenty twenty two showed the Six Nations team that there's

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Speaker 20: a window of opportunity here for some of these teams

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Speaker 20: to come down Under and make some history because for

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Speaker 20: so long a series victory down here has been so

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Speaker 20: unattainable for those guys at the end of what has

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Speaker 20: been a very busy season. But this is a very

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Speaker 20: strong English team and hey, I think we you know,

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Speaker 20: the unknown for us comes in the fact that our

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Speaker 20: well cut was beyond expectations. But a lot of those

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00:38:33,867 --> 00:38:35,627
Speaker 20: games are won on heart and ticker and I think

746
00:38:35,667 --> 00:38:39,827
Speaker 20: we could all agree it wasn't fluid rugby, so it

747
00:38:39,947 --> 00:38:42,267
Speaker 20: brings that level of excitement and I think it's it's

748
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Speaker 20: going to be a heck of a match up tonight.

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Speaker 2: What a great call you s. You've got a background

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Speaker 2: in broadcasting, George, or if you haven't, you might have

751
00:38:49,147 --> 00:38:50,067
Speaker 2: a future mate.

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00:38:51,187 --> 00:38:52,587
Speaker 20: I can do a live cross if you want me

753
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:54,907
Speaker 20: to come in, Poney and sit in the stands of

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Speaker 20: forsythe barth You I'm more than heavy too.

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Speaker 2: Top man, George Love the chetty mate, give us go

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow if you get the chance and we can

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00:39:01,347 --> 00:39:04,387
Speaker 2: review it together. I really enjoyed your col mate, thanks

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00:39:04,427 --> 00:39:07,827
Speaker 2: to Dave Cameron, your last cab off the rank this hour.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to actually seeing Papa Lee

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Speaker 14: play Bible counting English and bringing some breakdown specialists into

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Speaker 14: the game. And you know, I think arguably Sam Kane

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Speaker 14: was one of our best at the World Cup, particularly

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Speaker 14: in those Irish game, and you know, I think this

765
00:39:26,067 --> 00:39:29,027
Speaker 14: was Papa Leg's opportunity really, you know, with Sam Kane

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Speaker 14: obviously departing and then not to do the future, it's

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00:39:33,347 --> 00:39:36,267
Speaker 14: really his opportunity, you know, to cement that jersey for himself.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree. He's kind of had to had

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Speaker 2: to be a bit patient Dalton. Papa Lee, I think

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Speaker 2: it was the best seven last year as well in

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby and this year I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 2: seeing how he goes in the number seven jersey. I

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Speaker 2: actually quite like the combination Cameron, I'm not sure about

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Speaker 2: I like the female Papa Save. I'm again looking forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing how they go in combination tonight.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, look and I mean I mean Robinson's obviously been

777
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Speaker 14: an ex open side himself, going to be able to

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Speaker 14: really help those guys, you know, especially I mean the

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Speaker 14: Seville is probably a next level above, but I just

780
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Speaker 14: feel like here that they've got the support there from

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Speaker 14: the coach seat, and you know, the coach really knows

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Speaker 14: what they've got to do. So I'm excited and needs

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Speaker 14: to say. You know, it'll be a great opportunity to

784
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Speaker 14: see how they test themselves against a very strong team.

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Speaker 2: Top man Cameron good points, well, mate, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it. I think we're all looking forward

787
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Speaker 2: to seeing how it goes. I think there's a sense

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Speaker 2: of optimism, as there always is at the start of

789
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Speaker 2: any All Black season, but even more so this year

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Speaker 2: with the arrival of Scott Robertson. Now I would like

791
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Speaker 2: to to very early on in the piece just remind

792
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Speaker 2: everybody it is Scott Robertson. Robertson, Scott Robertson.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 2: We've had a few texts along those lines. Seven to

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Speaker 2: one News Talks.

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Speaker 1: EDB anilazing every view from every angle in the sporting

797
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Speaker 1: world to Weekend Sport with Jason Pie, They're all.

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Speaker 16: Us talks EDB three and.

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Speaker 2: A half time. One final text here from Paul, Who's

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Speaker 2: got the most approved tonight hands down, TJ pet Andata

801
00:41:10,987 --> 00:41:14,187
Speaker 2: and he will says Paul, thanks for all your calls

802
00:41:14,267 --> 00:41:18,307
Speaker 2: and correspondence, so much engagement around the All Blacks, so

803
00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:20,787
Speaker 2: much excitement. We'll open the lines again after one o'clock.

804
00:41:20,827 --> 00:41:25,347
Speaker 2: We get an English viewpoint from Traveling Rugby reporter Daniel Schofield,

805
00:41:25,427 --> 00:41:28,667
Speaker 2: and also wrap this historic night for New Zealand basketball

806
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Speaker 2: with the under seventeens.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

808
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Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on weegens Ford with

809
00:41:38,387 --> 00:41:41,267
Speaker 1: Jason Vane on your home of sport.

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Speaker 4: US Talk.

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Speaker 2: One o seven. Welcome in. We're broadcasting live from the

812
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Speaker 2: commentary box at Foresight Bath Stadium in Dunedin six hours

813
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Speaker 2: or so until the All Blacks are under a in

814
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four against England, first of two test matches.

815
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Speaker 2: They play them again at Eden Park and Auckland next Saturday.

816
00:41:59,747 --> 00:42:02,547
Speaker 2: Will be I presume anyway, I haven't been told different.

817
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Speaker 2: We'll be in the con box at eden Park next Saturday,

818
00:42:05,267 --> 00:42:08,947
Speaker 2: but for today it is Dunedin. Very shortly. An English

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Speaker 2: viewpoint from Traveling English Rugby journalist Daniel Schofield, who writes

820
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Speaker 2: for The Telegraph, but keen to know whether England think

821
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Speaker 2: that they will win this Test match or the one

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Speaker 2: next week. I mean, we're very biased, aren't we, And

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Speaker 2: that's because we're all Black fans. It's okay to expect

824
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Speaker 2: the all Blacks to whenever a game they play. I've

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Speaker 2: had a few techs through here that have suggested a

826
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Speaker 2: degree of trepidation, but for the most part, it's optimism

827
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Speaker 2: and excitement. Ahead of the first Test match of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, Tony says Jason, I totally agree with the

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Speaker 2: caller who's watching the game at home quietly. I go

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Speaker 2: to the game by myself because I hate people talking

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Speaker 2: to me when I'm watching the game. It's like someone

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Speaker 2: annoying you and talking while you're reading a good book. Tony,

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Speaker 2: I take your point. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 2: don't come to the game for that reason. They prefer

835
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Speaker 2: to be able to watch it and analy it themselves

836
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Speaker 2: without distraction. But I've often said there's nothing like being there,

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Speaker 2: being live and well, they've completely sold out Forsyth bar

838
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Speaker 2: Rahod yesterday. The official capacity of the place is twenty

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Speaker 2: nine one hundred and forty one and they've all been

840
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Speaker 2: sold for tonight, so in around six hours it's going

841
00:43:27,547 --> 00:43:31,867
Speaker 2: to be an absolute belt here. Shortly, we are also

842
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Speaker 2: going to cover off this historic achievement by the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Under seventeen men's basketball team. They've reached the semi

844
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Speaker 2: finals of the Fever Under seventeen Basketball World Cup in Turkey,

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Speaker 2: beating Lithuania seventy three sixty five in this morning's quarter final.

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Speaker 2: This is massive, a huge achievement. We'll put this into

847
00:43:50,547 --> 00:43:53,827
Speaker 2: context for you this hour, and Adam Peacock from across

848
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Speaker 2: the Tasman as well, Let's not forget the Wallabies start

849
00:43:56,827 --> 00:44:00,467
Speaker 2: their new regime tonight as well. Joe Schmidt at the

850
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Speaker 2: Helm as the Wallabies take on Wales. I think nine

851
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Speaker 2: to forty five kickoff in that one, so we'll be

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00:44:05,947 --> 00:44:08,387
Speaker 2: able to talk about that tomorrow. And of course Ireland

853
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Speaker 2: against South Africa. The fifteen man code is front and

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00:44:12,747 --> 00:44:16,467
Speaker 2: center of our consciousness right now. Let's get an English

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Speaker 2: viewpoint on this evening's Test match. Daniel Schofield rights for

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Speaker 2: the Telegraph and as in New Zealand to cover this series,

857
00:44:23,587 --> 00:44:25,747
Speaker 2: he joins US now on weekends Sport, Daniel, thanks for

858
00:44:26,507 --> 00:44:30,907
Speaker 2: taking the time. How optimistic are you of England winning

859
00:44:31,667 --> 00:44:34,627
Speaker 2: one or even both of these test matches?

860
00:44:35,987 --> 00:44:39,907
Speaker 19: More optimistic than I think any England team has been

861
00:44:40,267 --> 00:44:43,747
Speaker 19: coming here probably since two thousand and three, and that

862
00:44:43,867 --> 00:44:46,467
Speaker 19: two thousand and three lots some of them actually rate

863
00:44:46,747 --> 00:44:52,307
Speaker 19: winning in Wellington as highly as they did winning the

864
00:44:52,347 --> 00:44:55,987
Speaker 19: World Cup that year in two thousand and eight. I

865
00:44:56,107 --> 00:45:00,387
Speaker 19: believe it was in twenty fourteen England already knew they

866
00:45:00,427 --> 00:45:03,427
Speaker 19: were beaten coming on the plane. That there are various

867
00:45:03,507 --> 00:45:07,947
Speaker 19: sort of factors back in England, the lack of preparation time,

868
00:45:08,467 --> 00:45:13,187
Speaker 19: certain players joining late, but I guess moreover, the All

869
00:45:13,267 --> 00:45:18,627
Speaker 19: Blacks were seen as pretty invincible, particularly in that twenty

870
00:45:18,827 --> 00:45:22,187
Speaker 19: fourteen era, and I just think it's such a different

871
00:45:22,227 --> 00:45:25,547
Speaker 19: scenario this time around. England are coming out with quite

872
00:45:25,587 --> 00:45:27,907
Speaker 19: a bit of momentum from the way they finished the

873
00:45:27,907 --> 00:45:30,387
Speaker 19: sixth Nations. They reasonably well.

874
00:45:30,307 --> 00:45:31,787
Speaker 6: On in Japan.

875
00:45:32,707 --> 00:45:37,907
Speaker 19: They've got settled combinations and the quiet confidence and obviously

876
00:45:38,027 --> 00:45:40,587
Speaker 19: arriving at a time when the All Blacks are in

877
00:45:40,707 --> 00:45:47,027
Speaker 19: transition with a new coach, new captain, new halfbacks, that

878
00:45:47,427 --> 00:45:51,747
Speaker 19: there's a real sense that this is probably England's best

879
00:45:51,867 --> 00:45:54,627
Speaker 19: chance since so free and could be their best chance

880
00:45:54,747 --> 00:45:57,467
Speaker 19: again for another twenty firsty years. We don't know how

881
00:45:57,547 --> 00:45:59,467
Speaker 19: the sort of tours are going to work out in

882
00:45:59,547 --> 00:46:04,587
Speaker 19: future with the Nation's championship, but you won't find Steve

883
00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,667
Speaker 19: Borthwick or anyone making sort of our proclamations about this.

884
00:46:07,827 --> 00:46:13,507
Speaker 19: But there's a real quiet confidence that England can can

885
00:46:13,787 --> 00:46:15,827
Speaker 19: can go and yeah win for the first time in

886
00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:17,827
Speaker 19: New Zealand in twenty one years.

887
00:46:18,427 --> 00:46:20,507
Speaker 2: What did you make of the side named by Steve

888
00:46:20,587 --> 00:46:22,307
Speaker 2: Borthwick for this first test?

889
00:46:24,867 --> 00:46:29,667
Speaker 19: Pretty much as advertised that they He's He's made a

890
00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:37,547
Speaker 19: real point almost since he came on board after Reddie Jones,

891
00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:42,307
Speaker 19: that the most successful sides are built on cohesion and continuity.

892
00:46:42,987 --> 00:46:45,147
Speaker 16: Now you can't always control that.

893
00:46:45,267 --> 00:46:48,867
Speaker 19: With like injuries and suspensions, but he have a sort

894
00:46:48,907 --> 00:46:51,587
Speaker 19: of flag that there were going to be minimal changes

895
00:46:51,627 --> 00:46:56,547
Speaker 19: from Japan and something like Marcus Smith he wanted to

896
00:46:56,627 --> 00:47:02,427
Speaker 19: start throughout the Six Nations, but again circumstance meant that

897
00:47:02,507 --> 00:47:05,187
Speaker 19: he injured his calf in a warm weather training camp

898
00:47:05,787 --> 00:47:10,907
Speaker 19: in Dern so there weren't many surprises. They've obviously changed

899
00:47:11,387 --> 00:47:15,547
Speaker 19: the props and I think he's wherey particularly after what

900
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:18,387
Speaker 19: happened in a World Cup semi final against South Africa

901
00:47:18,427 --> 00:47:21,707
Speaker 19: where he sort of frontloaded his best scrummagers that you

902
00:47:22,027 --> 00:47:25,947
Speaker 19: don't necessarily start Cole and Mahler together, that they work

903
00:47:26,187 --> 00:47:31,227
Speaker 19: is better in a combination, So no real surprises. And

904
00:47:31,627 --> 00:47:34,907
Speaker 19: fairly there's obviously will be a few faces that maybe

905
00:47:35,147 --> 00:47:39,147
Speaker 19: New Zealand listeners will be unaware of, like fair Boso

906
00:47:39,387 --> 00:47:44,067
Speaker 19: and Freeman on the wings, but they're relatively settled.

907
00:47:45,707 --> 00:47:47,627
Speaker 2: These two tests come at the end of a very

908
00:47:47,747 --> 00:47:50,067
Speaker 2: very busy few months, don't theref We go back to

909
00:47:50,147 --> 00:47:53,427
Speaker 2: the World Cup and in England coming within one point

910
00:47:53,467 --> 00:47:55,707
Speaker 2: of beating South Africa and making the World Cup final

911
00:47:55,787 --> 00:47:59,707
Speaker 2: the Six Nations, which was very fiercely fought. Will the

912
00:47:59,867 --> 00:48:02,907
Speaker 2: timing of these two test matches apply it all into

913
00:48:02,947 --> 00:48:04,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand's favor? I guess another way of asking that

914
00:48:05,147 --> 00:48:07,067
Speaker 2: question is will England be but fatigued?

915
00:48:08,907 --> 00:48:11,267
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean you can definitely see it like that.

916
00:48:12,067 --> 00:48:17,027
Speaker 19: I would say that the England team has been fairly

917
00:48:17,107 --> 00:48:20,827
Speaker 19: refreshed since the World Cup. You've obviously lost a lot

918
00:48:20,867 --> 00:48:24,747
Speaker 19: of experienced people like owing Farrell, Courtney laws manutuur Lagi

919
00:48:24,867 --> 00:48:32,867
Speaker 19: and someone like many failed Boso wasn't involved at the

920
00:48:32,947 --> 00:48:35,747
Speaker 19: World Cup, and in fact, yeah, he was playing sort

921
00:48:35,747 --> 00:48:39,107
Speaker 19: of club rugby a little more than sort of eighteen

922
00:48:39,147 --> 00:48:45,587
Speaker 19: months ago. So yeah, and then someone like maritose he

923
00:48:45,947 --> 00:48:50,267
Speaker 19: technically shouldn't really be on this tour. There's a limit

924
00:48:50,387 --> 00:48:53,507
Speaker 19: with the Rugby Players Association that you shouldn't play more

925
00:48:53,627 --> 00:48:56,987
Speaker 19: than thirty four game equivalents, so the equivalent of twenty

926
00:48:57,067 --> 00:48:59,547
Speaker 19: four hundred minutes. So he's going to go over this

927
00:48:59,867 --> 00:49:03,307
Speaker 19: limit on this tour. But I think he's the only one,

928
00:49:03,547 --> 00:49:08,507
Speaker 19: and they've obviously manufactured loophole in order for him to

929
00:49:08,627 --> 00:49:13,427
Speaker 19: do that. I don't think fatigue would be cited as

930
00:49:13,427 --> 00:49:15,467
Speaker 19: an excuse if they lose, but.

931
00:49:17,467 --> 00:49:19,867
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could be proved wrong on that. Do

932
00:49:19,987 --> 00:49:22,627
Speaker 2: you get a sense that the All Blacks might be

933
00:49:23,147 --> 00:49:27,427
Speaker 2: vulnerable under a new coach, a new captain, you know,

934
00:49:28,147 --> 00:49:31,147
Speaker 2: a bunch of pretty experienced players having now departed. Do

935
00:49:31,267 --> 00:49:33,027
Speaker 2: you get a sense that the All Blacks may be

936
00:49:33,147 --> 00:49:34,347
Speaker 2: vulnerable tonight?

937
00:49:36,067 --> 00:49:36,427
Speaker 13: Definitely.

938
00:49:37,747 --> 00:49:40,827
Speaker 19: I'm not not necessarily saying that England are red hot

939
00:49:40,867 --> 00:49:45,987
Speaker 19: favorites there anything like that, but there are a crossroads

940
00:49:46,067 --> 00:49:49,027
Speaker 19: with a new coach and new captain. No one really

941
00:49:49,147 --> 00:49:52,547
Speaker 19: knows what to expect. I guess another way to put

942
00:49:52,547 --> 00:49:54,467
Speaker 19: it is that when they came England came here in

943
00:49:54,507 --> 00:50:01,667
Speaker 19: twenty fourteen, the team was absolutely stacked with world class players.

944
00:50:01,747 --> 00:50:04,827
Speaker 19: Now you put someone like Ardie Survey in that category,

945
00:50:05,267 --> 00:50:13,187
Speaker 19: but don't quite have the players like Carter Smith, Non Neukano,

946
00:50:14,227 --> 00:50:17,667
Speaker 19: Retallic etc. Who were probably struck a little bit of

947
00:50:17,747 --> 00:50:21,067
Speaker 19: fear into England back then. I don't think this All

948
00:50:21,107 --> 00:50:25,227
Speaker 19: Blacks team necessarily has the same fear factor of that

949
00:50:25,387 --> 00:50:26,187
Speaker 19: its predecessors.

950
00:50:26,227 --> 00:50:29,387
Speaker 2: Did you spend a bit of time and around the

951
00:50:29,387 --> 00:50:32,467
Speaker 2: All Blacks at the start of the week where you

952
00:50:32,587 --> 00:50:34,907
Speaker 2: were in Wellington and and got a bit of a

953
00:50:34,987 --> 00:50:38,507
Speaker 2: sense of what they're about? What did you make of

954
00:50:38,627 --> 00:50:40,667
Speaker 2: the All Black What sense did you get from them

955
00:50:40,707 --> 00:50:43,347
Speaker 2: with regard to the challenge whole face from England and

956
00:50:43,427 --> 00:50:45,067
Speaker 2: how they're approaching that.

957
00:50:47,027 --> 00:50:49,027
Speaker 19: So I should I should say, it's my first time

958
00:50:49,267 --> 00:50:53,667
Speaker 19: in New Zealand, so I was in little surprised that

959
00:50:53,867 --> 00:50:58,307
Speaker 19: there seemed to be a sense of general nervousness. That

960
00:50:58,507 --> 00:51:01,667
Speaker 19: the perception I've had is that the kiwis always very

961
00:51:01,747 --> 00:51:06,027
Speaker 19: cockshaw and that's probably a compliment that you know, they've

962
00:51:06,067 --> 00:51:08,507
Speaker 19: had such a successful team for so many years that

963
00:51:09,107 --> 00:51:14,267
Speaker 19: victories has taken for granted. I didn't get that sense

964
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:19,907
Speaker 19: at all. I wrote a piece that effectively like the

965
00:51:19,987 --> 00:51:22,547
Speaker 19: All Blacks were killing England with kindness, sort of going

966
00:51:22,707 --> 00:51:26,267
Speaker 19: overboard with how nice they were and were really sort

967
00:51:26,307 --> 00:51:32,267
Speaker 19: of flashing their teeth, which I completely understand the position

968
00:51:32,347 --> 00:51:35,267
Speaker 19: they're in that they can't necessarily be sort of thumping

969
00:51:35,307 --> 00:51:41,827
Speaker 19: their chests like Razi Erasmus does for South Africa. But yeah,

970
00:51:42,347 --> 00:51:45,867
Speaker 19: I was surprised a little bit the sense of nervousness.

971
00:51:45,947 --> 00:51:50,467
Speaker 19: And you know, a colleague was at the squad announcement

972
00:51:50,547 --> 00:51:54,507
Speaker 19: and said, like, Scott Robson looked really, really nervous in

973
00:51:54,627 --> 00:51:59,747
Speaker 19: that situation. So obviously it would be a frightening experience

974
00:51:59,747 --> 00:52:02,347
Speaker 19: for anyone to sort of talk in front of lots

975
00:52:02,387 --> 00:52:05,427
Speaker 19: of cameras and feel that weight of the nation on

976
00:52:05,747 --> 00:52:10,107
Speaker 19: his shoulders. But even yesterday he didn't look all that

977
00:52:10,267 --> 00:52:11,547
Speaker 19: comfortable in that environment.

978
00:52:12,427 --> 00:52:15,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read the pace actually, and yeah, you picked

979
00:52:15,307 --> 00:52:17,867
Speaker 2: up on Scott Hanson, one of the assistant coaches, calling

980
00:52:17,907 --> 00:52:21,507
Speaker 2: England beautiful. The fact that compared to ten years ago,

981
00:52:22,267 --> 00:52:24,307
Speaker 2: you know, when the All Blacks didn't really know too

982
00:52:24,347 --> 00:52:27,667
Speaker 2: many of the England players. There's been a greater amount

983
00:52:27,707 --> 00:52:30,427
Speaker 2: of detail this time around. If England are to win

984
00:52:30,507 --> 00:52:33,267
Speaker 2: tonight or to win next weekend or both, what do

985
00:52:33,387 --> 00:52:35,227
Speaker 2: they have to do particularly well?

986
00:52:37,387 --> 00:52:41,987
Speaker 19: I think I'll probably list off of a load of

987
00:52:42,027 --> 00:52:44,827
Speaker 19: cliches here, But whether in the early storm, I think

988
00:52:44,947 --> 00:52:48,867
Speaker 19: England have sort of know that the All Blacks are

989
00:52:48,867 --> 00:52:51,267
Speaker 19: going to come out firing, and they know it's going

990
00:52:51,347 --> 00:52:55,987
Speaker 19: to be really loud in the Sithebar Stadium tonight and

991
00:52:56,147 --> 00:52:58,907
Speaker 19: that the conditions are going to be tricky. If they

992
00:52:58,947 --> 00:53:03,707
Speaker 19: can weather that early storm, then I think it'll be

993
00:53:04,627 --> 00:53:07,787
Speaker 19: a tight game. And whether that sort of weight of

994
00:53:07,867 --> 00:53:11,147
Speaker 19: expectation and the nerves would start to play on your

995
00:53:11,187 --> 00:53:18,027
Speaker 19: Black shoulders. As much as England's game attacking game has

996
00:53:18,107 --> 00:53:23,227
Speaker 19: evolved over the course of six Nations, that the fundamentals

997
00:53:23,347 --> 00:53:27,187
Speaker 19: are always to set piece and particularly under Steve Borthwick,

998
00:53:27,347 --> 00:53:30,667
Speaker 19: line out and scrum which have improved, but obviously the

999
00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:35,267
Speaker 19: All Blacks have made great strides since the sort of

1000
00:53:35,347 --> 00:53:39,907
Speaker 19: new coaching staff have comeing in that area as well. Yeah,

1001
00:53:40,547 --> 00:53:42,947
Speaker 19: I think I don't think it's going to be a

1002
00:53:43,027 --> 00:53:47,347
Speaker 19: trifest I think it's going to be more more excided

1003
00:53:47,387 --> 00:53:53,627
Speaker 19: by the probably the goalkickers than necessarily the wingers out wide.

1004
00:53:54,107 --> 00:53:55,707
Speaker 2: And just to finish, will we just zoom out a

1005
00:53:55,747 --> 00:53:58,707
Speaker 2: bit from from from tonight's game and this tear series.

1006
00:53:59,027 --> 00:54:00,907
Speaker 2: As I say, England third and the six Nations, but

1007
00:54:00,947 --> 00:54:03,267
Speaker 2: they bede Ireland and only lost to France by just

1008
00:54:03,307 --> 00:54:06,147
Speaker 2: the two points, you know close. As I said before

1009
00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:09,147
Speaker 2: a World Cup final at the back end of last year,

1010
00:54:09,307 --> 00:54:16,827
Speaker 2: where do you assist Daniel Whitt England rugby is right now, We're.

1011
00:54:16,747 --> 00:54:20,547
Speaker 19: Definitely not in the sort of elite category by any means,

1012
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:26,667
Speaker 19: but it's probably been You'd have to go back to

1013
00:54:27,067 --> 00:54:31,787
Speaker 19: twenty nineteen and the World Cup semi final which against

1014
00:54:32,507 --> 00:54:35,147
Speaker 19: New Zealand, which is still used as the sort of

1015
00:54:35,227 --> 00:54:38,747
Speaker 19: high watermark for English rugby recent years. But really there

1016
00:54:38,867 --> 00:54:43,467
Speaker 19: hasn't been a lot of optimism since then. After that

1017
00:54:43,627 --> 00:54:51,147
Speaker 19: World Cup under Eddie sort of the wheels fell off slowly.

1018
00:54:51,227 --> 00:54:54,107
Speaker 19: They were winning but badly in twenty twenty and then

1019
00:54:55,347 --> 00:54:58,507
Speaker 19: losing a lot in twenty one and twenty two. Steve

1020
00:54:58,587 --> 00:55:04,547
Speaker 19: Worfwick came in with a limittedly, very limited game plan

1021
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:09,707
Speaker 19: that was incredibly effective in getting England to World Cup

1022
00:55:09,747 --> 00:55:14,387
Speaker 19: semi final within a point of the spring box and

1023
00:55:14,547 --> 00:55:20,307
Speaker 19: then coming into this Six Nations it was again fairly

1024
00:55:20,427 --> 00:55:23,667
Speaker 19: limited to begin with, but then between Scotland and the

1025
00:55:23,707 --> 00:55:27,467
Speaker 19: Island Games has been a huge transformation in the way

1026
00:55:27,587 --> 00:55:32,547
Speaker 19: England have been attacking and the freedom and ambition they've shown,

1027
00:55:32,587 --> 00:55:35,627
Speaker 19: which they yeah, you would have to go back five years.

1028
00:55:36,227 --> 00:55:41,987
Speaker 19: So even though England certainly aren't sort of beating their

1029
00:55:42,067 --> 00:55:45,627
Speaker 19: chests and pretending they're sort of world number ones, yeah

1030
00:55:46,267 --> 00:55:49,027
Speaker 19: they're on. It feels like they've turned a corner. I mean,

1031
00:55:49,227 --> 00:55:51,267
Speaker 19: it could all obviously come crashing now in the next

1032
00:55:51,307 --> 00:55:51,627
Speaker 19: couple of.

1033
00:55:51,627 --> 00:55:52,027
Speaker 2: Weeks, but.

1034
00:55:53,507 --> 00:55:56,507
Speaker 19: There's a sense of optimism and if you speak to

1035
00:55:57,427 --> 00:56:00,107
Speaker 19: most English sporting fans, the thing they want more than

1036
00:56:00,147 --> 00:56:01,267
Speaker 19: anything else is a bit of hope.

1037
00:56:02,147 --> 00:56:04,147
Speaker 2: Daniel, great to get your insight. Thank you so much.

1038
00:56:04,147 --> 00:56:06,827
Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your stay here in New Zella.

1039
00:56:06,867 --> 00:56:09,907
Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up perhaps post match tonight. Thanks

1040
00:56:09,947 --> 00:56:11,187
Speaker 2: for your time this afternoon.

1041
00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:14,307
Speaker 19: Though, that'd be great, Okay, thank you, No, thank you, Daniel.

1042
00:56:14,387 --> 00:56:17,547
Speaker 2: Daniel Scofield there read them in the Telegraph here as

1043
00:56:17,587 --> 00:56:23,267
Speaker 2: part of quite a decent English rugby media. Actually, I

1044
00:56:23,347 --> 00:56:25,187
Speaker 2: would say there would be at least a dozen of

1045
00:56:25,267 --> 00:56:27,587
Speaker 2: them here, had the chance to meet and chat to

1046
00:56:27,627 --> 00:56:29,467
Speaker 2: a few of them last night here in Duneda there

1047
00:56:29,507 --> 00:56:34,787
Speaker 2: and enjoying themselves as traveling rugby journos tend to do,

1048
00:56:35,267 --> 00:56:38,427
Speaker 2: and looking forward to tonight. Look, he seemed fairly confident,

1049
00:56:38,507 --> 00:56:42,827
Speaker 2: didn't he, Daniel Schofield of an England upset. We've got

1050
00:56:42,907 --> 00:56:44,427
Speaker 2: time for a couple of calls. We want to talk

1051
00:56:44,467 --> 00:56:46,747
Speaker 2: some basketball in a moment. We couldn't get everybody on

1052
00:56:46,787 --> 00:56:49,427
Speaker 2: the air before one o'clock, so if you'd like to

1053
00:56:49,707 --> 00:56:51,427
Speaker 2: jump on the line, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1054
00:56:51,507 --> 00:56:55,187
Speaker 2: eighty has listening to the English point of view in

1055
00:56:55,307 --> 00:57:00,067
Speaker 2: any way decreased your optimism about tonight? Or you pick

1056
00:57:00,147 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 2: up on anything you like really about this game tonight?

1057
00:57:02,227 --> 00:57:05,867
Speaker 2: How you're getting through until five past seven? If you're

1058
00:57:05,907 --> 00:57:09,467
Speaker 2: on text, Jason, Big game Day, It'll be tough. This

1059
00:57:09,627 --> 00:57:12,947
Speaker 2: is a battle hardened squad with big, strong, fast forwards,

1060
00:57:12,987 --> 00:57:16,427
Speaker 2: fresh off an international season where they beat our nemesis Island.

1061
00:57:16,867 --> 00:57:19,467
Speaker 2: They're confident with an unchained squad. We've also got a

1062
00:57:19,507 --> 00:57:22,947
Speaker 2: great squad, but some new blood, new coach, new processes

1063
00:57:22,987 --> 00:57:25,307
Speaker 2: and an old habit of starting a test season a

1064
00:57:25,427 --> 00:57:28,547
Speaker 2: bit jittery. Nothing in it All Blacks by three Max.

1065
00:57:29,467 --> 00:57:32,987
Speaker 2: That's Jim Hickey. That's Jim. It's Jim. Great to hear

1066
00:57:33,027 --> 00:57:36,627
Speaker 2: from you, mate, Thank you for sending that through big

1067
00:57:36,707 --> 00:57:39,747
Speaker 2: rugby fan Jimmers and makes a lot of sense. Raizer

1068
00:57:39,787 --> 00:57:41,827
Speaker 2: needs to watch how the Baby Blacks beat France with

1069
00:57:41,947 --> 00:57:45,387
Speaker 2: traditional All Blacks up tempo rugby, keep the ball off

1070
00:57:45,427 --> 00:57:47,747
Speaker 2: the ground and one off the ruck and beat that

1071
00:57:47,907 --> 00:57:50,787
Speaker 2: rush defense says this one. Tim, How are you feeling

1072
00:57:50,787 --> 00:57:51,347
Speaker 2: about tonight?

1073
00:57:52,427 --> 00:57:57,067
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm feeling good. They're really good. I guess you know,

1074
00:57:57,147 --> 00:58:00,107
Speaker 23: it does England King kind of feel a bit bullish.

1075
00:58:00,187 --> 00:58:03,747
Speaker 23: I mean, they've built the beaten understring for Japanese team

1076
00:58:04,987 --> 00:58:08,027
Speaker 23: they beat Ireland that they've got a lot of young

1077
00:58:08,067 --> 00:58:10,947
Speaker 23: players coming. But at the end of the day, this

1078
00:58:11,147 --> 00:58:14,027
Speaker 23: is the All Blacks and we're playing at home. I

1079
00:58:14,147 --> 00:58:15,827
Speaker 23: think that's going to be the big measure this. This

1080
00:58:15,987 --> 00:58:19,867
Speaker 23: isn't Ireland who came here three years ago under Winnian

1081
00:58:19,907 --> 00:58:23,867
Speaker 23: Fosterils coaching RBS. But I'm pretty confident and I'm quite

1082
00:58:23,907 --> 00:58:25,667
Speaker 23: surprised that a lot of the media in the UK

1083
00:58:25,827 --> 00:58:29,107
Speaker 23: are feeling that their favorites at the moment.

1084
00:58:29,707 --> 00:58:32,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess it's probably naturals and it

1085
00:58:32,707 --> 00:58:35,627
Speaker 2: would probably be the same if the if the situation

1086
00:58:35,867 --> 00:58:37,787
Speaker 2: was reversed. But you make a good point to you know,

1087
00:58:37,907 --> 00:58:41,467
Speaker 2: they did beat Ireland, they only just lost to France.

1088
00:58:41,987 --> 00:58:44,307
Speaker 2: They're pretty battle hardened. But I think you're right. I

1089
00:58:44,387 --> 00:58:47,147
Speaker 2: don't think they're the They're not the Island of twenty

1090
00:58:47,227 --> 00:58:49,587
Speaker 2: twenty two, the England of twenty twenty four, if that

1091
00:58:49,707 --> 00:58:50,147
Speaker 2: makes sense.

1092
00:58:50,907 --> 00:58:53,107
Speaker 23: No, and this is not the or Blacks of twenty

1093
00:58:53,187 --> 00:58:55,107
Speaker 23: twenty two either, ohtho are a lot of the players

1094
00:58:55,147 --> 00:58:57,587
Speaker 23: were there? A lot of these players that are in

1095
00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:00,387
Speaker 23: the Lacks team are informed. I can't think of one

1096
00:59:00,427 --> 00:59:02,387
Speaker 23: player that's not really informed at the moment. I mean

1097
00:59:02,427 --> 00:59:04,667
Speaker 23: a lot of there's a lot of question that's around Pierrefeta,

1098
00:59:06,067 --> 00:59:08,147
Speaker 23: But we'll just hurt the wedd and see how he

1099
00:59:08,227 --> 00:59:10,747
Speaker 23: goes it full bit tonight. But I'm pretty confident. I'm

1100
00:59:10,787 --> 00:59:13,227
Speaker 23: saying fifteen points we're going to win by mate.

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00:59:13,507 --> 00:59:14,667
Speaker 21: You go love it?

1102
00:59:14,747 --> 00:59:16,787
Speaker 2: Tim, goodness, don't we Why don't you call back tomorrow

1103
00:59:16,827 --> 00:59:18,467
Speaker 2: and we can we can assess your prediction.

1104
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,707
Speaker 23: Yes, And just before I go, who won that Portugal game.

1105
00:59:21,587 --> 00:59:22,107
Speaker 4: In the US?

1106
00:59:24,147 --> 00:59:28,627
Speaker 2: Not not Portugal unfortunately for them. Yeah, No, France on

1107
00:59:28,907 --> 00:59:32,227
Speaker 2: France one on yeah, France one on penalties. Damn it

1108
00:59:33,707 --> 00:59:36,067
Speaker 2: all right, overly chat tomorrow, mate, Thanks for your cool

1109
00:59:36,507 --> 00:59:39,387
Speaker 2: Piney betch of fifty bucks says Hermon. It'll be about

1110
00:59:39,427 --> 00:59:41,907
Speaker 2: the reef tonight. He won't waste his chance to be

1111
00:59:41,987 --> 00:59:44,387
Speaker 2: the main player. Sadly, that's rugby these days. Herman. I

1112
00:59:44,427 --> 00:59:46,507
Speaker 2: I'm not going to take the bet, but I hope

1113
00:59:46,507 --> 00:59:50,707
Speaker 2: it's not true. I really hope that we don't see

1114
00:59:50,747 --> 00:59:55,307
Speaker 2: the referee at all tonight. Dave says Jason. As much

1115
00:59:55,307 --> 00:59:56,587
Speaker 2: as I want the All Blacks to win, I think

1116
00:59:56,627 --> 00:59:58,547
Speaker 2: we'll have to wait for Auckland for that tonight. I

1117
00:59:58,587 --> 01:00:01,467
Speaker 2: think an England team with lots of recent games against

1118
01:00:01,467 --> 01:00:03,467
Speaker 2: an All Blacks team, many of who are are sure

1119
01:00:03,507 --> 01:00:07,027
Speaker 2: of a game and lack of cohesion will get us interesting.

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Speaker 2: Dave pragmatic from you, and Steven says you ask Ben

1121
01:00:10,267 --> 01:00:12,627
Speaker 2: Smith about how he watches rugby these days. Does he

1122
01:00:12,707 --> 01:00:14,907
Speaker 2: just go along and watch it like the rest of us?

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01:00:15,507 --> 01:00:18,227
Speaker 2: Steven says, did you think he might pack his boots

1124
01:00:18,347 --> 01:00:22,267
Speaker 2: just in case he's needed. I don't think Ben Smith

1125
01:00:22,307 --> 01:00:25,027
Speaker 2: would be packing his boots, but by the look of

1126
01:00:25,107 --> 01:00:27,107
Speaker 2: him on the sideline, for the Highlanders during the season.

1127
01:00:27,147 --> 01:00:31,187
Speaker 2: He could probably still go all right one five. It

1128
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Speaker 2: is here on news talks here, but let's get a

1129
01:00:32,787 --> 01:00:36,947
Speaker 2: breakaway when we come back history making Tall Blacks, or

1130
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Speaker 2: rather junior toll Blacks or under seventeen New Zealand basketball

1131
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Speaker 2: side overnight. They have gone further than any of their

1132
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Speaker 2: previous incarnations in terms of underage New Zealand basketball teams

1133
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Speaker 2: at World Cups. Age group teams will call them. One

1134
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Speaker 2: of their number is Hayden Jones. His dad is Phil Jones,

1135
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Speaker 2: one of our most iconic Toll Blacks. So a proud

1136
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Speaker 2: dad and a proud former player. Phil Jones with us

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Speaker 2: expect from a local owner and the reliability and support

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Speaker 16: The bitches ready?

1156
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Speaker 1: Are you live from Dunedin's Forsyth Bar Stadium ahead of

1157
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Speaker 1: the Al bags Fort Test. It's weekend sport with Jason

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Speaker 1: Fine and GJ Gunner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

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Speaker 16: News talks at b.

1160
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Speaker 2: Bang On one p thirty. New Zealand have made history

1161
01:02:18,627 --> 01:02:22,227
Speaker 2: at the Feber Under seventeen Basketball World Cup in Turkey.

1162
01:02:22,747 --> 01:02:25,147
Speaker 4: Excellent work here from New Zealand.

1163
01:02:25,467 --> 01:02:28,987
Speaker 24: Are they are going gruts in the semifinals for the

1164
01:02:29,107 --> 01:02:29,987
Speaker 24: first time.

1165
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Speaker 6: In their history?

1166
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Speaker 2: Yeah, bang On, They've reached the semifinals. Beating Lithuania seventy

1167
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Speaker 2: three sixty five in this morning's quarter final, they become

1168
01:02:37,867 --> 01:02:39,747
Speaker 2: the first New Zealand team to make it to the

1169
01:02:39,827 --> 01:02:43,347
Speaker 2: semifinals of a feber Age Group World Cup. They will

1170
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Speaker 2: play the United States for a place in the final.

1171
01:02:46,267 --> 01:02:49,427
Speaker 2: A true team effort, Oscar Goodman led the way nineteen

1172
01:02:49,467 --> 01:02:54,147
Speaker 2: points and ten rebounds, Hayden Jones equally influential thirteen points

1173
01:02:54,507 --> 01:02:58,667
Speaker 2: and twelve rebounds, Jackson Kiss seventeen points and eight rebounds,

1174
01:02:58,707 --> 01:03:03,027
Speaker 2: Troy Plumtree twelve points, eight rebounds, and Hunter Tatna chipping

1175
01:03:03,107 --> 01:03:06,507
Speaker 2: in with seven points, including a pair of triples the

1176
01:03:06,587 --> 01:03:09,587
Speaker 2: final quarter the highest New Zealand has achieved in its

1177
01:03:09,667 --> 01:03:14,067
Speaker 2: previous two Under seventeen World Cups fourteenth and twelfth, and

1178
01:03:14,187 --> 01:03:17,067
Speaker 2: this is also the furthest any New Zealand basketball team

1179
01:03:17,147 --> 01:03:19,667
Speaker 2: has gone since the Tour Blacks dream run at the

1180
01:03:19,707 --> 01:03:22,867
Speaker 2: two thousand and two World Champs, where they finished fourth

1181
01:03:23,187 --> 01:03:26,907
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and that squad has ties to this one.

1182
01:03:27,027 --> 01:03:29,227
Speaker 2: One of the leaders in two thousand and two was

1183
01:03:29,267 --> 01:03:32,787
Speaker 2: Phil Jones. His son, Hayden Jones plays a key role

1184
01:03:33,027 --> 01:03:37,147
Speaker 2: on this New Zealand Under seventeen men's national team. Phil

1185
01:03:37,267 --> 01:03:40,187
Speaker 2: Jones is with us. You must be a proud dad

1186
01:03:40,467 --> 01:03:41,507
Speaker 2: first and foremost, are you?

1187
01:03:41,587 --> 01:03:41,787
Speaker 4: Phil?

1188
01:03:43,067 --> 01:03:46,347
Speaker 21: Yeah? Bind me, you're pretty proud proud parents. Myself and

1189
01:03:46,427 --> 01:03:50,827
Speaker 21: cat boys are doing extremely well, and Hayden obviously is

1190
01:03:50,867 --> 01:03:51,787
Speaker 21: playing a big part of that.

1191
01:03:52,827 --> 01:03:55,787
Speaker 2: How significant an achievement is this put it into context

1192
01:03:55,867 --> 01:03:56,227
Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 21: Well, I guess you know. Basketball is one of the

1194
01:04:00,507 --> 01:04:04,867
Speaker 21: world sports and probably only second to football around the world,

1195
01:04:04,987 --> 01:04:10,067
Speaker 21: and it's a pretty big achievement for a younger group

1196
01:04:10,987 --> 01:04:13,947
Speaker 21: going to a world championship and doing what they're doing

1197
01:04:14,067 --> 01:04:17,307
Speaker 21: right now. Obviously coming up it's a pretty tough team

1198
01:04:17,347 --> 01:04:20,067
Speaker 21: and their next opponent, but for what they've done so far,

1199
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Speaker 21: it's very good.

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01:04:22,547 --> 01:04:24,987
Speaker 2: What were your expectations when they headed off.

1201
01:04:26,507 --> 01:04:29,587
Speaker 21: Well, I always thought that they could be pretty competitive,

1202
01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:32,547
Speaker 21: you know. I look at this age group and the

1203
01:04:32,627 --> 01:04:34,587
Speaker 21: guys that are in the team and sort of watching

1204
01:04:34,627 --> 01:04:38,387
Speaker 21: them grow up through the years, having coached a number

1205
01:04:38,467 --> 01:04:40,907
Speaker 21: of a number of them or coached against them a

1206
01:04:40,987 --> 01:04:44,947
Speaker 21: number of them throughout the last few years. Very talented,

1207
01:04:45,787 --> 01:04:50,067
Speaker 21: good size, good athletes. They can all shoot, and they

1208
01:04:50,187 --> 01:04:54,627
Speaker 21: play super hard, super competitors. So I think as far

1209
01:04:54,747 --> 01:04:58,747
Speaker 21: as maybe an age group team that's been put together

1210
01:04:58,947 --> 01:05:00,507
Speaker 21: one of the better ones that we've seen for a

1211
01:05:00,547 --> 01:05:02,947
Speaker 21: long time in New Zealand and the Black Singler.

1212
01:05:03,827 --> 01:05:06,787
Speaker 2: Is that just by chance pill Or has the way

1213
01:05:06,907 --> 01:05:10,427
Speaker 2: that our young men and women are being coached now changed.

1214
01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:14,267
Speaker 2: What has led to this this particular group of players,

1215
01:05:14,667 --> 01:05:16,427
Speaker 2: you know, turning out the way they have.

1216
01:05:17,747 --> 01:05:21,467
Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't know, it's a good question, you know

1217
01:05:21,587 --> 01:05:24,467
Speaker 21: that I know for Hayden, for example, you know, he's

1218
01:05:24,547 --> 01:05:26,587
Speaker 21: been around basketball since he was a little kid, and

1219
01:05:26,747 --> 01:05:30,227
Speaker 21: obviously with myself and Cat and had the opportunity to

1220
01:05:30,307 --> 01:05:33,347
Speaker 21: have a born his hand really really early on, as

1221
01:05:33,387 --> 01:05:36,027
Speaker 21: well as the sisters and you know, they all three

1222
01:05:36,027 --> 01:05:37,947
Speaker 21: of them have turned out to be pretty good basketballers.

1223
01:05:37,987 --> 01:05:41,067
Speaker 21: And I think that's definitely helped him on his journey.

1224
01:05:41,147 --> 01:05:43,227
Speaker 21: But there's still a few guys that are also quite

1225
01:05:43,347 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 21: new to basketball that are in the team as well.

1226
01:05:45,507 --> 01:05:47,707
Speaker 21: And you know, I think it comes down to the

1227
01:05:48,107 --> 01:05:51,467
Speaker 21: influences of the parents and the families and getting them

1228
01:05:51,467 --> 01:05:55,667
Speaker 21: into sport and involved in basketball. But also I think

1229
01:05:55,987 --> 01:05:59,107
Speaker 21: lighton Haddleton, the ended coach, the coach of the team,

1230
01:05:59,147 --> 01:06:00,827
Speaker 21: he alluded to the fact that there's a number of

1231
01:06:00,867 --> 01:06:03,307
Speaker 21: good coaches around New Zealand, I've had some involvement with

1232
01:06:03,467 --> 01:06:06,707
Speaker 21: these guys for quite a long time, so you know

1233
01:06:06,747 --> 01:06:10,467
Speaker 21: they've had some good grounding. They love basketball, their competitors

1234
01:06:11,307 --> 01:06:13,907
Speaker 21: pretty good mix for a pretty talented group.

1235
01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:16,987
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is have they had a lot of time

1236
01:06:17,067 --> 01:06:19,907
Speaker 2: playing together, so you know, they're all from different parts

1237
01:06:19,907 --> 01:06:23,267
Speaker 2: of the country, obviously different franchises, different secondary schools. Have

1238
01:06:23,547 --> 01:06:26,387
Speaker 2: they had much time playing together.

1239
01:06:26,147 --> 01:06:31,667
Speaker 21: This group, not really apart from the previous tournaments that

1240
01:06:31,747 --> 01:06:35,627
Speaker 21: they've been to, because they have a three year cycle

1241
01:06:35,707 --> 01:06:40,547
Speaker 21: where it starts at under fifteens now Oceani a championship

1242
01:06:40,587 --> 01:06:42,347
Speaker 21: with it which they go to, so they get together

1243
01:06:42,427 --> 01:06:45,227
Speaker 21: for that and then the qualifiers from that then go

1244
01:06:45,387 --> 01:06:48,907
Speaker 21: to the Asian champs the next year in the under

1245
01:06:48,987 --> 01:06:52,227
Speaker 21: sixteens and then they get together for that. So that really,

1246
01:06:52,307 --> 01:06:54,387
Speaker 21: when you think about it, they've only been together for

1247
01:06:54,507 --> 01:06:58,987
Speaker 21: these three tournaments that they've had. They've been lucky enough

1248
01:06:59,027 --> 01:07:01,907
Speaker 21: to get a reasonable build up into this tournament, having

1249
01:07:01,947 --> 01:07:04,507
Speaker 21: gone a little bit earlier over into Turkey and playing

1250
01:07:04,547 --> 01:07:10,187
Speaker 21: in the Stanbul Cup winning that tournament. So you know,

1251
01:07:10,227 --> 01:07:12,707
Speaker 21: I guess from a preparation perspective, they don't have a

1252
01:07:12,747 --> 01:07:15,107
Speaker 21: lot of time together, but they all know each other.

1253
01:07:15,707 --> 01:07:17,627
Speaker 21: They've all played against each other for quite a long

1254
01:07:17,707 --> 01:07:21,587
Speaker 21: time now, so that will help them when they get together.

1255
01:07:21,707 --> 01:07:23,947
Speaker 21: But it would be it'll be awesome if we could

1256
01:07:23,947 --> 01:07:26,387
Speaker 21: get them together for a month before they go and

1257
01:07:26,547 --> 01:07:27,267
Speaker 21: see what they could do.

1258
01:07:28,107 --> 01:07:30,827
Speaker 2: How tough will the United States be in the semi final?

1259
01:07:30,867 --> 01:07:33,747
Speaker 2: What a stupid question? How but how big? How big

1260
01:07:33,827 --> 01:07:35,587
Speaker 2: a jumped up is this going to be for them?

1261
01:07:36,347 --> 01:07:39,467
Speaker 21: Well, you've heard of David and Goliath, right, Well, yeah,

1262
01:07:39,667 --> 01:07:43,307
Speaker 21: this is a this is a exactly that I think.

1263
01:07:43,387 --> 01:07:46,227
Speaker 21: You know, the US team has been super dominant throughout

1264
01:07:46,347 --> 01:07:48,587
Speaker 21: the whole tournament, all of the games that have been

1265
01:07:48,627 --> 01:07:52,227
Speaker 21: winning comfortably by a margin of somewhere between forty and

1266
01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:56,467
Speaker 21: fifty points. You know, the Canadian game set in the

1267
01:07:56,627 --> 01:07:59,147
Speaker 21: quarter final they played last night, they won that. I

1268
01:07:59,187 --> 01:08:01,547
Speaker 21: think it was one hundred and eleven to sixty odds, So,

1269
01:08:02,587 --> 01:08:05,227
Speaker 21: you know, and Canada would be pretty tough. So I

1270
01:08:05,267 --> 01:08:08,747
Speaker 21: would say, so, who are big for the NZ team?

1271
01:08:08,947 --> 01:08:11,827
Speaker 21: But I would say late and we'll have them firing.

1272
01:08:11,907 --> 01:08:15,107
Speaker 21: They'll go out and be prepared and yeah, they've got

1273
01:08:15,147 --> 01:08:17,987
Speaker 21: nothing to lose. Just get out there, play the game.

1274
01:08:18,067 --> 01:08:20,667
Speaker 21: The hoop's still the same height, and the room's still

1275
01:08:20,707 --> 01:08:23,147
Speaker 21: the same with the basketball courts are still the same size.

1276
01:08:23,187 --> 01:08:24,147
Speaker 21: You just got to get after it.

1277
01:08:25,507 --> 01:08:27,227
Speaker 2: And I would imagine I don't know this to be true,

1278
01:08:27,227 --> 01:08:29,747
Speaker 2: but I would imagine that that this group of David's

1279
01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:33,707
Speaker 2: would be absolutely fizzing to take on Goliath, wouldn't they.

1280
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Speaker 21: Oh yeah. We talked to Hayden after the game, and

1281
01:08:37,347 --> 01:08:39,067
Speaker 21: you know, they were super pumped to be in the Semis,

1282
01:08:39,147 --> 01:08:41,467
Speaker 21: but I think he was probably more excited about actually

1283
01:08:41,507 --> 01:08:44,747
Speaker 21: playing the US, because you know, all of these guys

1284
01:08:44,827 --> 01:08:47,867
Speaker 21: look up to those guys and sort of idolize them

1285
01:08:47,947 --> 01:08:51,547
Speaker 21: and what they do in their colleges and high schools

1286
01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:54,787
Speaker 21: and the athletes that they are, and they see them

1287
01:08:54,987 --> 01:08:58,387
Speaker 21: on social media all the time. So I think they

1288
01:08:58,427 --> 01:09:01,187
Speaker 21: are all of them are super pumped about playing USA.

1289
01:09:02,067 --> 01:09:03,747
Speaker 2: Are we looking at a group of players here who

1290
01:09:03,787 --> 01:09:06,107
Speaker 2: could emulate what you did in two thousand and two?

1291
01:09:08,187 --> 01:09:13,267
Speaker 21: Well they already have, right but there the top four,

1292
01:09:13,467 --> 01:09:16,787
Speaker 21: So now it's down to them to see whether they

1293
01:09:16,827 --> 01:09:19,787
Speaker 21: could go one step further. It'd be awesome if they could,

1294
01:09:20,627 --> 01:09:23,987
Speaker 21: you know, somehow get a win against the USA and

1295
01:09:24,147 --> 01:09:27,707
Speaker 21: then get themselves into a gold medal, silver medal match.

1296
01:09:28,747 --> 01:09:30,667
Speaker 21: But if it doesn't go that way, then they've still

1297
01:09:30,667 --> 01:09:32,467
Speaker 21: got an opportunity to go one further than the two

1298
01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,027
Speaker 21: thousand and two team did. And you know I would

1299
01:09:35,107 --> 01:09:36,067
Speaker 21: love to see that happen.

1300
01:09:36,427 --> 01:09:38,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess what I was asking was, as tall

1301
01:09:38,587 --> 01:09:41,307
Speaker 2: Blacks in the years ahead, could this group of under

1302
01:09:41,387 --> 01:09:45,427
Speaker 2: seventeen players do what you guys did in a tall

1303
01:09:45,467 --> 01:09:46,067
Speaker 2: Black singlet?

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01:09:47,387 --> 01:09:47,547
Speaker 6: Well?

1305
01:09:47,547 --> 01:09:51,227
Speaker 21: I don't see why not. You know, we've got we've

1306
01:09:51,267 --> 01:09:53,547
Speaker 21: got a very good TOOLBAX team now and we get

1307
01:09:53,707 --> 01:09:56,747
Speaker 21: all of our players together. It's probably the key I

1308
01:09:56,827 --> 01:09:59,947
Speaker 21: think moving forward is how we try and keep this

1309
01:10:00,147 --> 01:10:04,107
Speaker 21: group together or add pieces to it to make sure

1310
01:10:04,227 --> 01:10:07,107
Speaker 21: that we're competing at the highest level in the black singler.

1311
01:10:07,947 --> 01:10:10,587
Speaker 21: You know, sometimes it's very hard because these players are

1312
01:10:10,627 --> 01:10:14,747
Speaker 21: off at different leagues and competitions and it's tough to

1313
01:10:14,787 --> 01:10:16,467
Speaker 21: get them out of those leagues to get them back

1314
01:10:16,507 --> 01:10:18,907
Speaker 21: and we're in the black single it and you know

1315
01:10:19,707 --> 01:10:22,387
Speaker 21: that's going to be a struggle for Bustall New Zealand

1316
01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:24,987
Speaker 21: moving forward. How do they keep this group together so

1317
01:10:25,107 --> 01:10:29,027
Speaker 21: that we can be competitive at a will stage that two.

1318
01:10:28,907 --> 01:10:31,747
Speaker 2: Thousand and two team had you played much with them

1319
01:10:31,827 --> 01:10:34,947
Speaker 2: at under seventeen level, for example, Phil, I think of

1320
01:10:35,147 --> 01:10:37,667
Speaker 2: the players in that two thousand and two team. Had

1321
01:10:37,707 --> 01:10:39,387
Speaker 2: you played much with them previously?

1322
01:10:40,987 --> 01:10:44,747
Speaker 21: Personally? No, yeah, but I didn't play any New Zealand

1323
01:10:44,787 --> 01:10:48,347
Speaker 21: representative basketball until I moved from the coast to Nelson

1324
01:10:48,427 --> 01:10:52,467
Speaker 21: and made the other twenties. So the Jay Junior tool Blacks,

1325
01:10:52,827 --> 01:10:54,427
Speaker 21: that was the first time that I'd played worth the

1326
01:10:54,547 --> 01:10:59,187
Speaker 21: lights of Pera Cameron and Mark Diicle and Sean Marks,

1327
01:10:59,227 --> 01:11:04,947
Speaker 21: those guys. But we were a group that sort of

1328
01:11:04,987 --> 01:11:10,187
Speaker 21: came through the on NBL together, played in the national

1329
01:11:10,267 --> 01:11:13,587
Speaker 21: team for a decent period of time. Once we sort

1330
01:11:13,627 --> 01:11:18,267
Speaker 21: of got together, probably around that late nineties early two thousands,

1331
01:11:19,307 --> 01:11:24,227
Speaker 21: where you Tabull came along with Dennibushnich and kind of

1332
01:11:24,307 --> 01:11:26,707
Speaker 21: changed things for us a bit. But we knew each

1333
01:11:26,707 --> 01:11:28,627
Speaker 21: other very well, not too just similar to what this

1334
01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:31,947
Speaker 21: group is like at the moment. So I think there's

1335
01:11:32,067 --> 01:11:35,907
Speaker 21: you know, there's a really good opportunity for these guys

1336
01:11:35,947 --> 01:11:37,867
Speaker 21: to do well, and they've done well so far in

1337
01:11:37,947 --> 01:11:40,307
Speaker 21: this tournament, but in the future they could really take

1338
01:11:40,347 --> 01:11:41,587
Speaker 21: the tour base to the next level.

1339
01:11:42,347 --> 01:11:43,267
Speaker 2: Have you had any sleep?

1340
01:11:45,427 --> 01:11:47,747
Speaker 21: Very patchy sleep. It was nice to have a nine

1341
01:11:47,787 --> 01:11:50,827
Speaker 21: to thirty game last night versus a two am and

1342
01:11:50,907 --> 01:11:54,107
Speaker 21: a five AM and a four to thirty am. You know,

1343
01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:56,347
Speaker 21: but back to the grind on Sunday morning where the

1344
01:11:56,707 --> 01:12:00,707
Speaker 21: boys played two AM against USA. So yeah, but it's

1345
01:12:00,747 --> 01:12:03,627
Speaker 21: all worth it, one hundred percent, it's worth it, Yeah, worth.

1346
01:12:03,507 --> 01:12:06,147
Speaker 2: Getting up for. Great to chat Phil, Look, I know

1347
01:12:06,827 --> 01:12:09,787
Speaker 2: everyone around New Zealand has just delighted that this latest

1348
01:12:09,827 --> 01:12:12,187
Speaker 2: group of young athletes is doing so well. Really good

1349
01:12:12,187 --> 01:12:15,707
Speaker 2: to chat mate, Thanks and all the best mate. Cheers

1350
01:12:15,707 --> 01:12:18,947
Speaker 2: Phil Jones, dad of Hayden, who plays a massive part

1351
01:12:18,987 --> 01:12:22,147
Speaker 2: in this New Zealand under seventeen men's team, himself obviously

1352
01:12:22,187 --> 01:12:26,067
Speaker 2: an icon of our game. But yeah, watching these young boys,

1353
01:12:26,067 --> 01:12:28,307
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of clips this morning on social

1354
01:12:28,387 --> 01:12:32,027
Speaker 2: media and you know, just the way they play and

1355
01:12:32,067 --> 01:12:36,227
Speaker 2: the way they carry themselves. And as Phil said, it's

1356
01:12:36,267 --> 01:12:39,187
Speaker 2: going to be David against Goliath when New Zealand played

1357
01:12:39,187 --> 01:12:41,907
Speaker 2: the United States and basketball. It doesn't matter what level,

1358
01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:46,467
Speaker 2: but these players will first for it. What an opportunity

1359
01:12:46,547 --> 01:12:48,707
Speaker 2: for them. And imagine the eyes that will be on

1360
01:12:48,827 --> 01:12:53,907
Speaker 2: the US under seventeen basketball team, who by default will

1361
01:12:53,907 --> 01:12:56,027
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to watch the New Zealand team in action.

1362
01:12:56,667 --> 01:13:01,387
Speaker 2: Huge opportunity for these boys. Great Stuff nineteen away from two,

1363
01:13:01,667 --> 01:13:04,867
Speaker 2: broadcasting life from Forsyth bar Stadium and Dunedin where tonight

1364
01:13:04,907 --> 01:13:08,067
Speaker 2: of course All Blacks England seven four commentary here on

1365
01:13:08,147 --> 01:13:10,947
Speaker 2: News Talk sad B, but across the Tasman Joe Schmidt

1366
01:13:11,307 --> 01:13:13,467
Speaker 2: will lead the Wallabies for the first time tonight when

1367
01:13:13,467 --> 01:13:17,707
Speaker 2: they take on Wales. Our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock are

1368
01:13:17,987 --> 01:13:21,147
Speaker 2: next on that and also a young Australian who is

1369
01:13:21,267 --> 01:13:25,347
Speaker 2: taking on Speaking of David v. Goliath Novak Djokovic at

1370
01:13:25,387 --> 01:13:28,267
Speaker 2: Wimbledon tomorrow morning Adam Peacock. Right after this on News

1371
01:13:28,307 --> 01:13:28,867
Speaker 2: Talks EDB.

1372
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Speaker 1: Live from under the roof for Dunedin's Fourth Side Bar Stadium,

1373
01:13:33,547 --> 01:13:38,347
Speaker 1: It's weekend sport with Jason Vive and GJ Gunn Homes

1374
01:13:38,547 --> 01:13:40,467
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1375
01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:41,627
Speaker 16: News Talks EDB.

1376
01:13:42,067 --> 01:13:43,827
Speaker 2: Coming up one forty five on News Talks sad B

1377
01:13:43,987 --> 01:13:47,667
Speaker 2: YEP broadcasting live from Test Venue for Soyth Bar Stadium

1378
01:13:47,667 --> 01:13:50,507
Speaker 2: and Dunedin five past seven tonight. Then of course we

1379
01:13:50,587 --> 01:13:53,427
Speaker 2: can get home and watch Joe Schmidt's Wallabies for the

1380
01:13:53,467 --> 01:13:55,787
Speaker 2: first time. Scott robertson taking charge of the All Blacks

1381
01:13:55,787 --> 01:13:58,747
Speaker 2: for the first time tonight. Joe Schmidt in charge of

1382
01:13:58,787 --> 01:14:01,667
Speaker 2: the Wallabies up against Wales at Alian's, which brings us

1383
01:14:01,747 --> 01:14:04,987
Speaker 2: nicely to our Australian correspondent, Adam Peacock.

1384
01:14:05,027 --> 01:14:07,707
Speaker 13: How are you, mate, good poney yourself?

1385
01:14:08,267 --> 01:14:08,667
Speaker 20: Very good?

1386
01:14:08,747 --> 01:14:11,507
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, very good. Looking forward to watching the Wallabies

1387
01:14:11,507 --> 01:14:14,907
Speaker 2: against Wales tonight. What's the general feeling around about the

1388
01:14:14,947 --> 01:14:18,867
Speaker 2: Wallabies under judgment? They should win tonight, shouldn't they should do?

1389
01:14:19,147 --> 01:14:19,347
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1390
01:14:20,227 --> 01:14:23,507
Speaker 13: Obviously Wales have had a few issues in six Nations

1391
01:14:23,587 --> 01:14:26,267
Speaker 13: and even though last time we met they absolutely pumped

1392
01:14:26,347 --> 01:14:31,707
Speaker 13: us and that was the cataclysmic end or punctuation point

1393
01:14:31,747 --> 01:14:34,107
Speaker 13: if you want to want it that way on the

1394
01:14:34,227 --> 01:14:37,347
Speaker 13: Eddie Jones era. That was as low as low can

1395
01:14:37,427 --> 01:14:38,547
Speaker 13: get for Australian rugby.

1396
01:14:38,747 --> 01:14:40,667
Speaker 8: So I think this is new.

1397
01:14:40,747 --> 01:14:44,347
Speaker 13: Tell us your fella, our fella out. Joe Schmid's come

1398
01:14:44,387 --> 01:14:48,507
Speaker 13: in and he's not gone. Oh, let's press the paint button.

1399
01:14:48,627 --> 01:14:52,227
Speaker 13: Let's get all the guys in from overseas. It's like, okay,

1400
01:14:52,227 --> 01:14:53,867
Speaker 13: if you want to go and play regularly next year,

1401
01:14:54,747 --> 01:14:57,987
Speaker 13: you're gone. If you want to be overseas at the moment, no,

1402
01:14:58,107 --> 01:15:00,147
Speaker 13: I'll pick you. I'll just go from Super Rugby and

1403
01:15:00,707 --> 01:15:03,347
Speaker 13: back to basics approach, I think, so it'd be interesting

1404
01:15:03,427 --> 01:15:05,347
Speaker 13: to see how that go. It's not the nicest day here,

1405
01:15:05,427 --> 01:15:07,707
Speaker 13: into need a bit of rain about, so it might

1406
01:15:07,747 --> 01:15:11,547
Speaker 13: not be free flowing running Raby, but probably not going

1407
01:15:11,587 --> 01:15:15,267
Speaker 13: to be that anyway. First up with Jays, Yeah, intrigue

1408
01:15:15,307 --> 01:15:15,907
Speaker 13: to have a look at it.

1409
01:15:16,707 --> 01:15:17,707
Speaker 8: I don't really know.

1410
01:15:18,387 --> 01:15:20,587
Speaker 13: I don't think there's too many people who really know

1411
01:15:20,667 --> 01:15:22,107
Speaker 13: what we're going to get through the wall of this

1412
01:15:22,267 --> 01:15:23,227
Speaker 13: next six months.

1413
01:15:24,307 --> 01:15:26,467
Speaker 2: What sort of cut throughs are getting because we're right

1414
01:15:26,547 --> 01:15:30,067
Speaker 2: in the middle of you know, the NRL season, you know,

1415
01:15:30,107 --> 01:15:33,747
Speaker 2: Australian rules still going on, other things happening, Wimbledon and

1416
01:15:33,787 --> 01:15:35,707
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that in a moment. Does does rugby

1417
01:15:35,867 --> 01:15:38,067
Speaker 2: get cut through to people know there's a teas match

1418
01:15:38,107 --> 01:15:38,907
Speaker 2: on on Sydney tonight.

1419
01:15:40,067 --> 01:15:43,107
Speaker 13: Yes, it depends where you look. Look, it has a lot.

1420
01:15:43,147 --> 01:15:44,667
Speaker 13: I don't know what it's like there in New Zealand,

1421
01:15:44,707 --> 01:15:47,467
Speaker 13: but it feels like with the electronic media these days

1422
01:15:47,547 --> 01:15:50,987
Speaker 13: and and print media that if a certain organization has

1423
01:15:51,027 --> 01:15:53,747
Speaker 13: the rights as the nine network boot here in Australia

1424
01:15:53,907 --> 01:15:56,507
Speaker 13: and it's on stand so that means the papers like

1425
01:15:56,547 --> 01:16:00,147
Speaker 13: the SEI, Money Herald give it hey heavy coverage. But

1426
01:16:00,347 --> 01:16:04,827
Speaker 13: if it's not, they're like the other sides of the men.

1427
01:16:04,867 --> 01:16:08,507
Speaker 13: You don't really heavily in it. There's an element of intrigue,

1428
01:16:08,547 --> 01:16:11,027
Speaker 13: so it does depend where you look, but yeah, there

1429
01:16:11,107 --> 01:16:13,467
Speaker 13: is a bit of interest in the rugby playing States.

1430
01:16:13,507 --> 01:16:15,747
Speaker 13: I'd say the AFL playing States not so much, but

1431
01:16:16,267 --> 01:16:18,147
Speaker 13: yeah there's a bit here, even though there is origin

1432
01:16:18,227 --> 01:16:20,627
Speaker 13: and he regular r L.

1433
01:16:20,627 --> 01:16:25,547
Speaker 2: Stuff going on Wimbledon. I mentioned that we just talked

1434
01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:28,267
Speaker 2: about our under seventeen basketball team about to take on

1435
01:16:28,347 --> 01:16:31,267
Speaker 2: the United States. In terms of a David versus Goliath,

1436
01:16:31,467 --> 01:16:35,627
Speaker 2: one of your young Australians taking on Novak Djokovic. Has

1437
01:16:35,667 --> 01:16:37,907
Speaker 2: he got a David's chance against Goliath?

1438
01:16:39,627 --> 01:16:44,507
Speaker 13: I put Alexipopprin's chances a little bit better than David's

1439
01:16:44,587 --> 01:16:47,547
Speaker 13: chances against Goliath, But I'm not a huge amount of

1440
01:16:47,587 --> 01:16:50,987
Speaker 13: Obviously it's Jokovic, and look at the moment he doesn't

1441
01:16:51,627 --> 01:16:54,587
Speaker 13: to be showing the full effects of a knee surgery

1442
01:16:54,867 --> 01:16:58,067
Speaker 13: just on. But look, he doesn't have that base to

1443
01:16:58,227 --> 01:17:00,747
Speaker 13: lean on. I don't think Jokovic so if Poperin gets

1444
01:17:00,787 --> 01:17:02,267
Speaker 13: him into a fight, he might be a chance. He

1445
01:17:02,467 --> 01:17:04,427
Speaker 13: so not ruling him out, but he's going to have

1446
01:17:04,507 --> 01:17:06,147
Speaker 13: to play it near his best, which he has done

1447
01:17:06,427 --> 01:17:10,187
Speaker 13: let in his first two pretty switched on performance so far.

1448
01:17:10,307 --> 01:17:14,307
Speaker 13: But there's Djokovic center called Wimbledon. Not many people beating there.

1449
01:17:14,427 --> 01:17:19,947
Speaker 2: So what's some Nick Kariosi's later situation.

1450
01:17:21,347 --> 01:17:21,707
Speaker 20: I don't know.

1451
01:17:22,067 --> 01:17:24,667
Speaker 13: I don't know. He's just lurking around and he's had

1452
01:17:25,307 --> 01:17:29,387
Speaker 13: issues which can be a career And remember one Martine

1453
01:17:29,427 --> 01:17:31,307
Speaker 13: del Potro, he started to have risk injuries and he

1454
01:17:31,427 --> 01:17:34,827
Speaker 13: was never a hire. Not the case Nick, because he

1455
01:17:34,867 --> 01:17:37,867
Speaker 13: does brings uping to the court, but he's he's best

1456
01:17:37,867 --> 01:17:40,587
Speaker 13: friends with Djokovic now, which is just a surreal sword.

1457
01:17:40,627 --> 01:17:42,387
Speaker 13: He's doing a bit of commentary there for the BBC,

1458
01:17:42,667 --> 01:17:47,147
Speaker 13: so he is making his presence known wherever he goes

1459
01:17:47,187 --> 01:17:50,987
Speaker 13: and his opinion knowing Nick. But hopefully around the American

1460
01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:52,947
Speaker 13: hard court swing which comes up in a month time

1461
01:17:53,067 --> 01:17:56,307
Speaker 13: or so, he's back out there because Tennis does need

1462
01:17:56,347 --> 01:17:58,827
Speaker 13: to play like Nick Kios, and it looks as though

1463
01:17:58,987 --> 01:18:01,307
Speaker 13: given how much he's hanging around the two and Nick

1464
01:18:01,347 --> 01:18:04,307
Speaker 13: Kios needs Tennis as well, so he's not far off,

1465
01:18:04,347 --> 01:18:05,827
Speaker 13: but he's not quite there.

1466
01:18:05,747 --> 01:18:06,987
Speaker 21: Yet, all right.

1467
01:18:07,107 --> 01:18:10,307
Speaker 2: And to finish today, football, the A leagues during the

1468
01:18:10,387 --> 01:18:13,427
Speaker 2: week have announced the cutting of their cloth. The money

1469
01:18:13,467 --> 01:18:15,387
Speaker 2: that they give to the A League clubs is going

1470
01:18:15,467 --> 01:18:19,387
Speaker 2: to be greatly diminished next season. What are the repercussions

1471
01:18:19,387 --> 01:18:19,547
Speaker 2: of this?

1472
01:18:22,427 --> 01:18:25,787
Speaker 13: I think the clubs knew that down that this was coming,

1473
01:18:25,947 --> 01:18:31,507
Speaker 13: so that they're preparing budgets accordingly. Clubs like Central Coast

1474
01:18:31,587 --> 01:18:35,627
Speaker 13: Adelaide and I'll probably Wellington in with this now they

1475
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,307
Speaker 13: can ride this out because they've seen it and they've

1476
01:18:38,347 --> 01:18:41,067
Speaker 13: got some young players coming through, and Wellington obviously have

1477
01:18:41,667 --> 01:18:43,667
Speaker 13: the reserves to play in your national league, and they've

1478
01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:45,987
Speaker 13: got the academy and things like that. So it's not

1479
01:18:46,067 --> 01:18:52,147
Speaker 13: a complete like doomsday apocalypse, but it's not great and

1480
01:18:52,627 --> 01:18:57,547
Speaker 13: clubs really need an upturning those centralized funding distributions to

1481
01:18:58,467 --> 01:19:00,827
Speaker 13: keep Bible in the long term. At the moment, it's

1482
01:19:00,827 --> 01:19:02,347
Speaker 13: not going to happen. Next two years is not going

1483
01:19:02,427 --> 01:19:04,587
Speaker 13: to happen. But yeah, I think they're going to have

1484
01:19:04,667 --> 01:19:07,947
Speaker 13: to lean heavily into the lopping players for transfer and markets,

1485
01:19:07,947 --> 01:19:08,747
Speaker 13: and that's the only.

1486
01:19:08,667 --> 01:19:09,147
Speaker 8: Way out of it.

1487
01:19:09,227 --> 01:19:12,747
Speaker 25: But the football overall, you might not get your quality

1488
01:19:12,787 --> 01:19:15,507
Speaker 25: of import in as you would and your young player

1489
01:19:15,627 --> 01:19:18,467
Speaker 25: might go earlier, but they're they're the two main differences

1490
01:19:18,507 --> 01:19:19,787
Speaker 25: I think going forward to the league.

1491
01:19:20,347 --> 01:19:22,947
Speaker 2: All right, and did you get some golfing before the

1492
01:19:22,987 --> 01:19:23,667
Speaker 2: heavens opened?

1493
01:19:24,867 --> 01:19:25,067
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1494
01:19:25,747 --> 01:19:30,467
Speaker 13: I know the heaven's opened during no mate, but you're

1495
01:19:30,467 --> 01:19:32,707
Speaker 13: sitting in dune aiden and I feel like I am

1496
01:19:32,787 --> 01:19:35,507
Speaker 13: as well. Eight six that we counted out and the

1497
01:19:35,587 --> 01:19:38,547
Speaker 13: course eight successive saturdays where there's been rain and wind.

1498
01:19:38,987 --> 01:19:40,787
Speaker 13: It's ridiculous, hideous.

1499
01:19:42,867 --> 01:19:45,427
Speaker 2: Do you think it's somebody's way of telling you to

1500
01:19:45,507 --> 01:19:47,347
Speaker 2: give the game of golf away or not?

1501
01:19:49,107 --> 01:19:49,467
Speaker 13: Probably?

1502
01:19:49,707 --> 01:19:50,507
Speaker 6: But I won't.

1503
01:19:52,067 --> 01:19:55,067
Speaker 2: Love it, mate, Always love chatting Australian sport with the

1504
01:19:55,067 --> 01:19:56,347
Speaker 2: Adam will do it again next Saturday.

1505
01:19:57,347 --> 01:19:58,747
Speaker 13: Sounds good, fine, its mate.

1506
01:19:58,787 --> 01:20:01,507
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, have a good one. That's Edam Peacock, Australian correspondent.

1507
01:20:01,947 --> 01:20:04,227
Speaker 2: Catch him on socials. He's also part of Stand Sports

1508
01:20:04,267 --> 01:20:08,187
Speaker 2: coverage of Wimbledon Alexei Popera and up against Novak Djokovic.

1509
01:20:08,307 --> 01:20:12,587
Speaker 2: That's three forty five tomorrow morning for those who would

1510
01:20:12,627 --> 01:20:15,707
Speaker 2: like to get up to watch the latest Australian hope

1511
01:20:16,107 --> 01:20:19,827
Speaker 2: up against Novak Djokovic. Yeah, three forty five tomorrow morning,

1512
01:20:19,867 --> 01:20:22,827
Speaker 2: which is around about the same time actually that Ireland

1513
01:20:22,907 --> 01:20:25,987
Speaker 2: and South Africa play. It's a big night of sport.

1514
01:20:26,427 --> 01:20:28,587
Speaker 2: You look at it. I'd mentioned before that there's obviously

1515
01:20:28,627 --> 01:20:30,387
Speaker 2: the All Blacks tonight. Well there's start with the Warriors

1516
01:20:30,507 --> 01:20:34,187
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to Shanelle Harris Tavita after two o'clock

1517
01:20:34,347 --> 01:20:38,347
Speaker 2: they play at five, All Blacks at seven Wallaby's Whales

1518
01:20:38,387 --> 01:20:40,947
Speaker 2: after that, and then you get yourself up to midnight.

1519
01:20:42,027 --> 01:20:44,147
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm forgetting something. But then once you get

1520
01:20:44,147 --> 01:20:45,747
Speaker 2: around to three o'clock in the morning, maybe you get

1521
01:20:45,787 --> 01:20:47,787
Speaker 2: a couple of hours kip. Three o'clock in the morning,

1522
01:20:48,387 --> 01:20:51,947
Speaker 2: Ireland against South Africa, the tennis I just mentioned, and

1523
01:20:51,987 --> 01:20:55,147
Speaker 2: then you're into the Euros. England play their quarter final

1524
01:20:55,147 --> 01:20:59,627
Speaker 2: at four o'clock, followed by that's against Switzerland, followed by

1525
01:20:59,667 --> 01:21:02,987
Speaker 2: the Netherlands against Turkey. So you could, basically, if you

1526
01:21:03,107 --> 01:21:06,187
Speaker 2: wanted to and had the intestinal fortitude to do so,

1527
01:21:06,787 --> 01:21:08,787
Speaker 2: get yourself all the way through the night watching sport.

1528
01:21:09,747 --> 01:21:11,747
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure how you'd wash up tomorrow morning.

1529
01:21:11,827 --> 01:21:13,747
Speaker 2: But look, I'm not going to tell you not to dine.

1530
01:21:13,747 --> 01:21:15,587
Speaker 2: And you could also go tour to France. Mate, don't

1531
01:21:15,587 --> 01:21:20,627
Speaker 2: forget yes, yes, yeah, are you you're quite into that,

1532
01:21:20,707 --> 01:21:22,627
Speaker 2: aren't you? Oh mate, It's one of my favorite couple

1533
01:21:22,627 --> 01:21:24,787
Speaker 2: of weeks or three weeks of the year. I absolutely

1534
01:21:24,987 --> 01:21:28,787
Speaker 2: love Litur. It's it's a gripping watch the whole sign

1535
01:21:28,867 --> 01:21:31,267
Speaker 2: piney of. I've realized I've only got a minute to speak,

1536
01:21:31,307 --> 01:21:32,907
Speaker 2: but I could go for hours on it. So I'm

1537
01:21:32,907 --> 01:21:35,267
Speaker 2: going to just turn my mic off now, Mate, Latour,

1538
01:21:35,467 --> 01:21:39,507
Speaker 2: you say, let tour, let's tour difference? Am I? Am

1539
01:21:39,547 --> 01:21:41,027
Speaker 2: I going to get in trouble for trying to do

1540
01:21:41,067 --> 01:21:45,307
Speaker 2: a fringe accent? Definitely, all you're doing is speaking English

1541
01:21:45,387 --> 01:21:46,267
Speaker 2: and a fringe accent.

1542
01:21:46,427 --> 01:21:49,027
Speaker 6: This, I.

1543
01:21:50,547 --> 01:21:53,147
Speaker 2: Love it all right. Seven to three, seven to two,

1544
01:21:53,267 --> 01:21:54,107
Speaker 2: rather news Talk.

1545
01:21:54,627 --> 01:21:58,347
Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the Epic fails

1546
01:21:59,947 --> 01:22:02,907
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Ime News Talk.

1547
01:22:03,027 --> 01:22:06,707
Speaker 2: Zimb Diane, She's what about the moldy All Black Stason? Correct?

1548
01:22:06,747 --> 01:22:08,587
Speaker 2: I forgot them. Our New Zealand Maldi take on a

1549
01:22:08,707 --> 01:22:11,587
Speaker 2: Japan fifteen that's at nine o'clock tonight, so almost on

1550
01:22:11,707 --> 01:22:14,827
Speaker 2: the on the whistle of the All Blacks Test against England,

1551
01:22:14,987 --> 01:22:17,547
Speaker 2: the Japan fifteen against New Zealand Maldi. That will cut

1552
01:22:17,627 --> 01:22:20,667
Speaker 2: into the Australia Wales game obviously, and some Formula one

1553
01:22:20,707 --> 01:22:23,147
Speaker 2: in that mix as well, says Hamish Yeah, what are

1554
01:22:23,227 --> 01:22:26,267
Speaker 2: UK Grand Prix? So much sport on don't know where

1555
01:22:26,307 --> 01:22:28,467
Speaker 2: to look, but loving that we can look in all

1556
01:22:28,507 --> 01:22:31,547
Speaker 2: different directions and see sport coming our way. After two,

1557
01:22:32,067 --> 01:22:34,587
Speaker 2: Chanelle Harris Tavita out of the Warriors. They take on

1558
01:22:34,627 --> 01:22:38,027
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs. At five, Danielle Hison is off to the Paralympics,

1559
01:22:38,067 --> 01:22:41,787
Speaker 2: one of our top Paralympic sprinters. And Rick Salitso is

1560
01:22:41,867 --> 01:22:43,307
Speaker 2: back with Sports Cafe.

1561
01:22:43,307 --> 01:22:49,987
Speaker 1: Ish the only place for the big names, the big issues,

1562
01:22:50,787 --> 01:22:55,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1563
01:22:55,827 --> 01:22:59,587
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1564
01:23:00,067 --> 01:23:00,667
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1565
01:23:00,707 --> 01:23:00,947
Speaker 10: It'd be.

1566
01:23:02,587 --> 01:23:04,747
Speaker 2: Two seven, one more hour of us and then we'll

1567
01:23:04,747 --> 01:23:07,147
Speaker 2: flick it across to the weekend, collect to Tim Beverage,

1568
01:23:07,187 --> 01:23:10,267
Speaker 2: taking you through until six and then on back. We've

1569
01:23:10,707 --> 01:23:14,027
Speaker 2: been given a double shift today, so's Andy. Actually, we'll

1570
01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:18,587
Speaker 2: bring you build up of the All Blacks England Test

1571
01:23:18,667 --> 01:23:21,747
Speaker 2: match starting from six, take you through to seven, then

1572
01:23:21,827 --> 01:23:24,707
Speaker 2: hand over the microphone to Elliott Smith. He's got former

1573
01:23:24,747 --> 01:23:28,587
Speaker 2: All Black Paul Miller alongside for tonight's call. First Test

1574
01:23:28,627 --> 01:23:31,187
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. Continue to send your thoughts through

1575
01:23:31,267 --> 01:23:34,387
Speaker 2: on text. How are you feeling if you're into needing

1576
01:23:34,467 --> 01:23:36,347
Speaker 2: for the game. What's the buzz you get around the

1577
01:23:36,387 --> 01:23:40,587
Speaker 2: place off in here for nearly two days now and yeah,

1578
01:23:40,667 --> 01:23:43,907
Speaker 2: feeling like a test city. It certainly did last night.

1579
01:23:44,707 --> 01:23:47,107
Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing what plays out tonight on the

1580
01:23:47,147 --> 01:23:48,947
Speaker 2: grass in front of me here it was we broadcast

1581
01:23:49,027 --> 01:23:51,747
Speaker 2: from high in the stand here at Forsyth Barth. We're

1582
01:23:51,747 --> 01:23:53,507
Speaker 2: going to take you in a couple of different directions

1583
01:23:53,587 --> 01:23:57,347
Speaker 2: though this hour. Want to chat Warriors. Five o'clock start

1584
01:23:57,387 --> 01:23:59,387
Speaker 2: for them as they take on the Bulldogs this afternoon.

1585
01:23:59,427 --> 01:24:01,427
Speaker 2: Good win last week against the Broncos off the back

1586
01:24:01,507 --> 01:24:04,827
Speaker 2: of that horrendous probably never to be spoken about again

1587
01:24:05,267 --> 01:24:08,547
Speaker 2: lost to the Gold Coast Titans. Chanell Harris Taviza and

1588
01:24:08,667 --> 01:24:13,187
Speaker 2: Tim Muddy Martin teaming up in the halves and looking

1589
01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:16,347
Speaker 2: really really good. Shanello Harris Tavita with her shortly looking

1590
01:24:16,387 --> 01:24:19,307
Speaker 2: ahead to the Bulldogs game. Danielle Hison is off to

1591
01:24:19,387 --> 01:24:23,227
Speaker 2: her second Paralympic Games. One of our top sprinters, she's

1592
01:24:23,267 --> 01:24:25,467
Speaker 2: the world champion in the two hundred meters, looking to

1593
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:28,987
Speaker 2: add Paralympic gold a little bit later on this year

1594
01:24:29,107 --> 01:24:32,267
Speaker 2: in Paris. She is with us this hour and rix

1595
01:24:32,307 --> 01:24:37,747
Speaker 2: Zlitzo is also on the show Remember Sports Cafe nineties

1596
01:24:37,787 --> 01:24:41,627
Speaker 2: and into the two thousands, an iconic television show. Well,

1597
01:24:41,707 --> 01:24:45,587
Speaker 2: it's returning as a podcast rix Alitza, Mark Ellis, Lee

1598
01:24:45,707 --> 01:24:47,947
Speaker 2: Hart and others. So Rick's going to tell us how

1599
01:24:47,987 --> 01:24:49,547
Speaker 2: that all came about and how much they had to

1600
01:24:49,627 --> 01:24:54,187
Speaker 2: pay him to get back in his studio with those guys.

1601
01:24:54,547 --> 01:24:57,347
Speaker 2: I've heard him talk quite often rix Alitzo about how

1602
01:24:57,387 --> 01:24:59,787
Speaker 2: it was the most stressful time of his life. So

1603
01:24:59,907 --> 01:25:02,707
Speaker 2: what made him decide to come back and give it

1604
01:25:02,747 --> 01:25:06,627
Speaker 2: another crack with Sports Cafe Ish the new podc cast

1605
01:25:06,707 --> 01:25:10,467
Speaker 2: offering on the iHeartRadio platform. But before we get into

1606
01:25:10,587 --> 01:25:12,867
Speaker 2: any of that, as we always do at around about

1607
01:25:12,907 --> 01:25:15,947
Speaker 2: this time on weekend sport, we like to get you

1608
01:25:16,227 --> 01:25:20,347
Speaker 2: up to date, to catch you up on some of

1609
01:25:20,387 --> 01:25:22,707
Speaker 2: the stuff that you may have missed. Its cordenication, you

1610
01:25:22,787 --> 01:25:26,267
Speaker 2: missed it. Andy McDonald pulls it together every Saturday and Sunday,

1611
01:25:26,587 --> 01:25:29,787
Speaker 2: and he started today with the NRL and the Panthers

1612
01:25:29,907 --> 01:25:31,027
Speaker 2: continue to march on.

1613
01:25:32,627 --> 01:25:36,387
Speaker 4: And the Panthers do it again. They do it again

1614
01:25:36,427 --> 01:25:39,707
Speaker 4: in a big game as usual.

1615
01:25:40,227 --> 01:25:42,947
Speaker 15: They are up to the moment and they have grand

1616
01:25:43,067 --> 01:25:46,867
Speaker 15: out a fourteen points to six win over Brisbane.

1617
01:25:47,467 --> 01:25:50,427
Speaker 2: Indeed they did. Let's go to the European Football Championship

1618
01:25:50,587 --> 01:25:53,827
Speaker 2: Spain through at the expense of the hosts.

1619
01:25:55,387 --> 01:26:04,747
Speaker 20: Mitchell in the one hundred and twentieth minutes.

1620
01:26:06,587 --> 01:26:12,827
Speaker 16: Jo surely, but speed it to the semi.

1621
01:26:12,667 --> 01:26:16,867
Speaker 2: Final and they will play France, who got past Portugal

1622
01:26:16,907 --> 01:26:24,667
Speaker 2: on penalties. France had done it, and the dream of

1623
01:26:24,867 --> 01:26:27,267
Speaker 2: Christiano Ronaldo is older.

1624
01:26:27,667 --> 01:26:31,307
Speaker 25: This last euro is older at the age of thirty nine.

1625
01:26:31,907 --> 01:26:35,747
Speaker 5: But the adventure continues to dial.

1626
01:26:35,227 --> 01:26:38,987
Speaker 2: And France staying on that side of the world. In

1627
01:26:39,067 --> 01:26:41,507
Speaker 2: the first time trial and the Tour de France, that

1628
01:26:41,707 --> 01:26:45,627
Speaker 2: wasn't Pegachia or vinger Guard but Rimco even pol who

1629
01:26:45,667 --> 01:26:46,707
Speaker 2: took out the stage, the.

1630
01:26:46,787 --> 01:26:49,827
Speaker 15: Yellow jersey closing in on the finish line.

1631
01:26:50,067 --> 01:26:51,627
Speaker 16: But it's not going to be enough.

1632
01:26:51,747 --> 01:26:55,387
Speaker 15: This afternoon, remco Eve Nepole wins his first ever stay

1633
01:26:55,467 --> 01:26:58,427
Speaker 15: of the tour to France. That Tanney Pagatcher has sent

1634
01:26:58,587 --> 01:27:01,947
Speaker 15: out the message Pagatca is supreme.

1635
01:27:02,027 --> 01:27:03,467
Speaker 6: In the time trial, he might.

1636
01:27:03,427 --> 01:27:07,587
Speaker 15: Be second, but he holds onto the yellow jazz Ramcoach

1637
01:27:07,627 --> 01:27:08,107
Speaker 15: and Nepa.

1638
01:27:08,067 --> 01:27:11,827
Speaker 2: Wins the time trial. There is I'm told a new

1639
01:27:11,987 --> 01:27:16,307
Speaker 2: champion in the world of hot dog eating paper letting

1640
01:27:16,387 --> 01:27:19,107
Speaker 2: meet so much to the people who follow this sport,

1641
01:27:19,747 --> 01:27:21,267
Speaker 2: and he's been out of it for them.

1642
01:27:21,107 --> 01:27:22,187
Speaker 4: All part for a long time.

1643
01:27:22,467 --> 01:27:23,947
Speaker 7: But he is roaring back in.

1644
01:27:23,987 --> 01:27:27,307
Speaker 2: A way that very few except me could have anticipated.

1645
01:27:27,467 --> 01:27:29,107
Speaker 16: Yeah it is and that's We're still hanging tough.

1646
01:27:29,227 --> 01:27:32,147
Speaker 1: Ten seconds to go, but I think Paperletti's about to

1647
01:27:32,187 --> 01:27:33,867
Speaker 1: have a coke and a smile here at.

1648
01:27:33,787 --> 01:27:34,867
Speaker 4: Nathan's famis.

1649
01:27:37,387 --> 01:27:40,707
Speaker 2: Fifty eight hot dogs, fifty eight and ten minutes. Sorry

1650
01:27:40,747 --> 01:27:43,507
Speaker 2: for the pause, I was just trying to contemplate fifty

1651
01:27:43,547 --> 01:27:46,227
Speaker 2: eight hot dogs and ten minutes for pat Bertilletti, but

1652
01:27:47,027 --> 01:27:50,907
Speaker 2: former champion Joey Chestnut controversially not there. He instead had

1653
01:27:50,947 --> 01:27:53,747
Speaker 2: his own competition where he gobbled down fifty seven hot

1654
01:27:53,787 --> 01:27:56,987
Speaker 2: dogs and only five minutes. And finally some history for Kiewe,

1655
01:27:57,067 --> 01:27:58,947
Speaker 2: Lulu Soon and Wimbledon.

1656
01:28:02,587 --> 01:28:06,947
Speaker 1: One son who sat still still shines seven six and

1657
01:28:07,067 --> 01:28:10,667
Speaker 1: it's Will nineteen and as the twenty three year.

1658
01:28:10,547 --> 01:28:17,227
Speaker 13: Olds qualifier, Lulu Sun into her very first Grand Slam

1659
01:28:17,467 --> 01:28:18,987
Speaker 13: four rounds at Wimbleton.

1660
01:28:19,907 --> 01:28:23,547
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

1661
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:27,027
Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Vye they call eight hundred

1662
01:28:27,027 --> 01:28:28,667
Speaker 1: and eighty and eighty News Talk.

1663
01:28:28,547 --> 01:28:31,587
Speaker 2: ZENB twelve minutes past two. Just jumping aheare twenty four

1664
01:28:31,627 --> 01:28:34,067
Speaker 2: hours just very quickly. Our Road to Paris feature continues

1665
01:28:34,147 --> 01:28:37,227
Speaker 2: tomorrow as we count down towards the Paris Olympics, which

1666
01:28:37,227 --> 01:28:40,387
Speaker 2: are getting very close. But we're continuing our look at

1667
01:28:40,427 --> 01:28:43,587
Speaker 2: great Olympic moments of the past, and tomorrow Hamish Carter

1668
01:28:43,947 --> 01:28:46,867
Speaker 2: is on the show. You remember the Means Triathlon in

1669
01:28:46,947 --> 01:28:50,347
Speaker 2: two thousand and four in Athens where Hamish Carter and

1670
01:28:50,467 --> 01:28:53,507
Speaker 2: Bevan Dougherty was stride for stride until very late in

1671
01:28:53,587 --> 01:28:57,347
Speaker 2: that race, Hamish Carter eventually winning gold and Bevan Dougherty silver.

1672
01:28:57,747 --> 01:29:00,027
Speaker 2: So Hamish Carter with us tomorrow at about this time

1673
01:29:00,547 --> 01:29:04,307
Speaker 2: to remember two thousand and four. As our Road to

1674
01:29:04,427 --> 01:29:08,227
Speaker 2: Paris feature continues to the NRL we go the Warriors

1675
01:29:08,307 --> 01:29:11,107
Speaker 2: take on the Bulldogs five o'clock this afternoon. The Warriors

1676
01:29:11,547 --> 01:29:14,467
Speaker 2: bouncing back from that horror loss to the Titans with

1677
01:29:14,627 --> 01:29:18,027
Speaker 2: a very solid victory against the Broncos last weekend, scoring

1678
01:29:18,147 --> 01:29:18,867
Speaker 2: six tries to.

1679
01:29:18,947 --> 01:29:21,747
Speaker 22: Three part a bit close to the minis of many

1680
01:29:21,787 --> 01:29:27,107
Speaker 22: of us thought there I suspect now Martin again, who's

1681
01:29:27,187 --> 01:29:27,667
Speaker 22: the vida?

1682
01:29:30,547 --> 01:29:33,387
Speaker 16: There's over for the first time the afternoon.

1683
01:29:33,347 --> 01:29:35,987
Speaker 2: He scored two of the warriors six tries and he's

1684
01:29:36,067 --> 01:29:38,507
Speaker 2: with us now. Chanelle Harris Tavita out of the Warriors

1685
01:29:38,587 --> 01:29:40,907
Speaker 2: camp ahead of the game against the Bulldogs. Chanell, thanks

1686
01:29:40,947 --> 01:29:42,587
Speaker 2: for your time. How do you reflect, first of all,

1687
01:29:42,667 --> 01:29:45,147
Speaker 2: back on that win over the Broncos, coming as it

1688
01:29:45,227 --> 01:29:47,107
Speaker 2: did off the back of the loss to the Titans.

1689
01:29:48,587 --> 01:29:53,627
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we we executed what we plan to do.

1690
01:29:54,667 --> 01:29:56,547
Speaker 24: They came off a tough week the week before against

1691
01:29:56,547 --> 01:29:58,947
Speaker 24: the Titans, and a lot of the boys are looking

1692
01:29:58,987 --> 01:30:03,387
Speaker 24: for redemption, and yeah, we really wanted to turn.

1693
01:30:05,147 --> 01:30:08,227
Speaker 6: To our our game around from from the week before.

1694
01:30:08,307 --> 01:30:11,067
Speaker 6: So I'm happy we got the result and but we've

1695
01:30:11,067 --> 01:30:12,387
Speaker 6: still got lots of improvement in us.

1696
01:30:12,787 --> 01:30:15,507
Speaker 2: Did you feel like there was any extra pressure after

1697
01:30:15,787 --> 01:30:16,627
Speaker 2: the Titans game?

1698
01:30:19,707 --> 01:30:22,187
Speaker 24: Not too much pressure. I think we know what wins

1699
01:30:22,267 --> 01:30:24,187
Speaker 24: US games. We just we didn't turn up on that

1700
01:30:24,347 --> 01:30:27,027
Speaker 24: day and we didn't do We didn't do what we

1701
01:30:27,147 --> 01:30:30,387
Speaker 24: plan to do. So we we went back to the

1702
01:30:30,507 --> 01:30:32,107
Speaker 24: drawing board. We know what wins US games and we

1703
01:30:32,227 --> 01:30:34,227
Speaker 24: just needed to put all our energy energy into that.

1704
01:30:34,467 --> 01:30:37,467
Speaker 24: So yeah, that helped us get the result.

1705
01:30:37,707 --> 01:30:40,867
Speaker 2: What other things that that win the Warriors games? What

1706
01:30:40,947 --> 01:30:43,027
Speaker 2: do you really focus on when you're when you're planning,

1707
01:30:43,227 --> 01:30:44,387
Speaker 2: you know each week.

1708
01:30:46,147 --> 01:30:48,027
Speaker 24: Well, we like to build our build our game on

1709
01:30:48,227 --> 01:30:51,667
Speaker 24: our defense, and we had too many mist tackles and

1710
01:30:51,827 --> 01:30:55,747
Speaker 24: we started really poorly against the Titans. We went physical

1711
01:30:55,867 --> 01:31:01,347
Speaker 24: enough and coming back to uh sold out home crowd

1712
01:31:01,667 --> 01:31:03,947
Speaker 24: like that, that got us really physical and I thought

1713
01:31:03,987 --> 01:31:05,387
Speaker 24: we started well to play the pressure.

1714
01:31:05,467 --> 01:31:09,067
Speaker 6: So the more we can do that, the better we'll go.

1715
01:31:09,667 --> 01:31:11,507
Speaker 2: One of the eye catching features of the game was

1716
01:31:11,747 --> 01:31:14,187
Speaker 2: your partnership with Timarti Martin of course in the in

1717
01:31:14,267 --> 01:31:16,827
Speaker 2: the six and seven jumper. First of all, how much

1718
01:31:16,867 --> 01:31:18,507
Speaker 2: do you enjoy that partnership.

1719
01:31:20,267 --> 01:31:24,587
Speaker 24: Yeah, my first game this year was with with Tomorrow

1720
01:31:24,627 --> 01:31:26,387
Speaker 24: and the halves we were playing yourself, I was cupping.

1721
01:31:27,347 --> 01:31:29,627
Speaker 24: I think just from then we knew each other's strengths

1722
01:31:29,667 --> 01:31:32,507
Speaker 24: and we sort of sort of flowed pretty well. And

1723
01:31:34,267 --> 01:31:37,107
Speaker 24: like whoever steps into the role of the six or

1724
01:31:37,107 --> 01:31:39,467
Speaker 24: seven jersey, we know, we know what we need to do,

1725
01:31:39,627 --> 01:31:44,347
Speaker 24: and we make variations based on what the player strengths are.

1726
01:31:44,467 --> 01:31:47,627
Speaker 24: But as long as we execute our roles, the team

1727
01:31:48,027 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 24: team usually plays well off the back of it.

1728
01:31:51,707 --> 01:31:53,587
Speaker 2: How have you assessed the way Tomighty's gone.

1729
01:31:54,747 --> 01:31:55,787
Speaker 6: He's been unreal for us.

1730
01:31:56,107 --> 01:31:59,907
Speaker 24: He's he's just playing footy and that's what his strengths

1731
01:31:59,987 --> 01:32:02,827
Speaker 24: is playing eyes up and he's got a got a

1732
01:32:02,867 --> 01:32:06,227
Speaker 24: solid running game and and he usually picks the right

1733
01:32:06,467 --> 01:32:10,467
Speaker 24: us when he goes to the line. So yeah, he's

1734
01:32:10,507 --> 01:32:12,827
Speaker 24: getting us around the park nicely. And we've got some

1735
01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:17,027
Speaker 24: got some outstanding middles and edge players that are that

1736
01:32:17,147 --> 01:32:20,427
Speaker 24: are helping us get some momentum for him to play off.

1737
01:32:20,787 --> 01:32:22,307
Speaker 2: Is he a good talk around there? Does he do?

1738
01:32:22,667 --> 01:32:23,267
Speaker 6: Of the two of you?

1739
01:32:23,347 --> 01:32:24,627
Speaker 2: Would he do more talking than you?

1740
01:32:26,947 --> 01:32:27,107
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1741
01:32:27,147 --> 01:32:29,707
Speaker 24: I think as the as the halfback, hey, you take

1742
01:32:29,747 --> 01:32:33,387
Speaker 24: on a lot more responsibility than the five eight. You

1743
01:32:33,587 --> 01:32:36,907
Speaker 24: sort of stare the team around the park and in

1744
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:40,667
Speaker 24: the sixth row, I just whatever I see. If I

1745
01:32:40,747 --> 01:32:43,067
Speaker 24: see a queue in front of me or opportunity, then

1746
01:32:43,267 --> 01:32:44,667
Speaker 24: then I'm willing.

1747
01:32:44,507 --> 01:32:44,827
Speaker 6: To take it.

1748
01:32:44,947 --> 01:32:47,787
Speaker 24: So I sort of try and take pressure off him

1749
01:32:48,147 --> 01:32:51,147
Speaker 24: in that sense and do a bit of kicking as well.

1750
01:32:51,227 --> 01:32:55,307
Speaker 24: So I think we can compliment each other well if

1751
01:32:55,307 --> 01:32:58,227
Speaker 24: we just do our jobs and keep working at it.

1752
01:32:58,587 --> 01:32:59,867
Speaker 2: There's six your favorite jersey?

1753
01:32:59,907 --> 01:33:00,627
Speaker 4: Now do you think.

1754
01:33:03,027 --> 01:33:03,547
Speaker 6: I think it is?

1755
01:33:04,467 --> 01:33:09,587
Speaker 24: I like the six jersey rather than the forteen jersey. Yeah,

1756
01:33:09,747 --> 01:33:12,227
Speaker 24: but like I know that we've got a we've got

1757
01:33:12,267 --> 01:33:15,867
Speaker 24: a squad full of talented players, and coming back from

1758
01:33:15,907 --> 01:33:18,787
Speaker 24: a year off, it's I'm just grateful to be back

1759
01:33:18,827 --> 01:33:20,947
Speaker 24: in the seventeen and a team that made the top

1760
01:33:20,987 --> 01:33:24,747
Speaker 24: four last year. So whatever I needed to do to

1761
01:33:24,907 --> 01:33:26,587
Speaker 24: help the team win, that's that's what I'm going to

1762
01:33:26,667 --> 01:33:27,907
Speaker 24: pour my energy into.

1763
01:33:28,187 --> 01:33:29,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, that fourteen Jersey. I think a lot of people

1764
01:33:29,987 --> 01:33:32,907
Speaker 2: like you there because of your versatility. Obviously you'd prefer

1765
01:33:32,987 --> 01:33:35,827
Speaker 2: to be starting in a specialist position, but if called upon,

1766
01:33:35,867 --> 01:33:38,707
Speaker 2: you're happy to You're happy to to play whatever role

1767
01:33:38,827 --> 01:33:40,427
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster asks of you.

1768
01:33:40,867 --> 01:33:41,147
Speaker 6: Clearly.

1769
01:33:42,227 --> 01:33:43,907
Speaker 24: Yep, Yeah, No, I sat down with me at the

1770
01:33:43,907 --> 01:33:47,387
Speaker 24: start of the year and pretty much came to agreement

1771
01:33:47,427 --> 01:33:49,587
Speaker 24: that I'll play whatever roles best for the team, and

1772
01:33:49,787 --> 01:33:52,907
Speaker 24: whether that's a six or forteen Jersey, I'm happy.

1773
01:33:52,667 --> 01:33:53,467
Speaker 6: To be in the seventeen.

1774
01:33:54,347 --> 01:33:55,947
Speaker 2: How was your year away from the game, how do

1775
01:33:55,987 --> 01:33:57,067
Speaker 2: you how do you reflect on that?

1776
01:33:58,787 --> 01:34:00,307
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a it was a well needed break.

1777
01:34:01,627 --> 01:34:03,987
Speaker 24: The club wasn't doing too well when when I left,

1778
01:34:04,067 --> 01:34:07,547
Speaker 24: and they sort of turned it turned it around when

1779
01:34:07,587 --> 01:34:12,427
Speaker 24: when web came to the club. So yeah, physically and mentally,

1780
01:34:12,787 --> 01:34:15,547
Speaker 24: I needed it, and yeah, I'm glad I made that

1781
01:34:15,667 --> 01:34:18,027
Speaker 24: decision back then and I'm happy to be a back

1782
01:34:18,067 --> 01:34:18,467
Speaker 24: playing now.

1783
01:34:18,787 --> 01:34:20,507
Speaker 2: I remember hearing some media at the time when you

1784
01:34:20,587 --> 01:34:22,707
Speaker 2: were talking about your decision to take the break away

1785
01:34:22,787 --> 01:34:25,227
Speaker 2: and you weren't Well what you said was you weren't

1786
01:34:25,227 --> 01:34:27,747
Speaker 2: sure whether you were coming back or not. But were

1787
01:34:27,787 --> 01:34:30,907
Speaker 2: you always? Was it always the plan to come back? Whenever?

1788
01:34:30,987 --> 01:34:31,707
Speaker 2: That was whenever?

1789
01:34:31,747 --> 01:34:35,067
Speaker 6: That Nah, Actually I wasn't sure.

1790
01:34:36,227 --> 01:34:38,667
Speaker 24: And then yeah, halfway through the year, I decided I

1791
01:34:38,987 --> 01:34:42,507
Speaker 24: want to to see out and for form my potential

1792
01:34:42,667 --> 01:34:45,587
Speaker 24: as a rugby league player while I can, and I'm

1793
01:34:45,627 --> 01:34:46,147
Speaker 24: doing that now.

1794
01:34:46,307 --> 01:34:50,547
Speaker 2: So yep, fans are wrapped. Have you back all right? Bulldogs? Yeah,

1795
01:34:50,667 --> 01:34:53,507
Speaker 2: Bulldogs this weekend, first time you played them. I think

1796
01:34:53,547 --> 01:34:54,987
Speaker 2: this season, how do you reckon you match up against

1797
01:34:54,987 --> 01:34:55,427
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs.

1798
01:34:57,747 --> 01:35:00,827
Speaker 6: They're firing at the moment, the Bulldogs. I saw. They

1799
01:35:00,867 --> 01:35:01,907
Speaker 6: haven't lost the game at home.

1800
01:35:02,027 --> 01:35:05,907
Speaker 24: So yeah, we're looking to start fast like we did

1801
01:35:05,987 --> 01:35:09,947
Speaker 24: last week and focus on what's going to help us

1802
01:35:09,987 --> 01:35:14,187
Speaker 24: win this game. And yeah, hopefully we can start fast

1803
01:35:14,267 --> 01:35:15,907
Speaker 24: and the place of presciure to them.

1804
01:35:16,467 --> 01:35:16,627
Speaker 26: Well.

1805
01:35:16,747 --> 01:35:19,427
Speaker 2: Terrific performance last week against the Broncos. Looking forward to

1806
01:35:19,467 --> 01:35:21,987
Speaker 2: seeing what happens against the Bulldog. Chanelle, thanks for taking

1807
01:35:21,987 --> 01:35:23,467
Speaker 2: the tyre for a chat mate, I really appreciate it.

1808
01:35:24,187 --> 01:35:25,387
Speaker 6: Thanks Jason, thank care mate.

1809
01:35:25,667 --> 01:35:27,587
Speaker 2: You take care to Shanelle Harris to Vita the ahead

1810
01:35:27,627 --> 01:35:30,147
Speaker 2: of the Warriors game against the Bulldogs five o'clock this afternoon.

1811
01:35:30,667 --> 01:35:33,587
Speaker 2: This one's at a core stadium, I think a Core

1812
01:35:33,707 --> 01:35:37,147
Speaker 2: stadium in Sydney. As I say five o'clock. Then the

1813
01:35:37,187 --> 01:35:39,867
Speaker 2: Warriors have the buy then away to the Raiders on

1814
01:35:39,987 --> 01:35:43,627
Speaker 2: Friday July nineteen. Next home game against the West Tigers

1815
01:35:43,827 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 2: on Friday July twenty six. In terms of this round

1816
01:35:48,947 --> 01:35:51,547
Speaker 2: of the NRAL Round eighteen, so far we've had the

1817
01:35:51,627 --> 01:35:54,467
Speaker 2: Rabbitos bet in the Eels Citty tow sixteen, the Titans

1818
01:35:54,507 --> 01:35:57,307
Speaker 2: getting up against the Sharks last night twenty points to sixteen.

1819
01:35:57,347 --> 01:36:00,067
Speaker 2: That would have surprised a few people in Panthers Broncos

1820
01:36:00,107 --> 01:36:02,547
Speaker 2: as you heard in case you missed it, Panther's winning

1821
01:36:02,587 --> 01:36:05,787
Speaker 2: fourteen to six. After the Bulldog's Warriors, it's the Tigers

1822
01:36:05,827 --> 01:36:09,027
Speaker 2: against them at seven thirty tonight, Cowboys Sea Eagles at

1823
01:36:09,067 --> 01:36:11,587
Speaker 2: nine thirty five, and then tomorrow Roosters Dragons at four

1824
01:36:12,067 --> 01:36:15,627
Speaker 2: and Raiders' nights to round things off at five past six.

1825
01:36:16,307 --> 01:36:19,827
Speaker 2: Off the text line from Richard. This is why England

1826
01:36:19,867 --> 01:36:22,267
Speaker 2: will win tonight, says Richard. Goodness me, Richard, I'll have

1827
01:36:22,267 --> 01:36:25,107
Speaker 2: to read this out. All Blacks historically poor in game

1828
01:36:25,187 --> 01:36:29,787
Speaker 2: one at home and historically vulnerable in Dunedin. Five hugely

1829
01:36:29,947 --> 01:36:34,307
Speaker 2: influential players not there, Retallic White, lock Smith mooing at Jordan,

1830
01:36:34,907 --> 01:36:38,547
Speaker 2: Benefittor and t Mac haven't really performed at test level yet.

1831
01:36:39,107 --> 01:36:41,907
Speaker 2: England are a team on the rise. England set peace

1832
01:36:41,987 --> 01:36:45,987
Speaker 2: will be solid, best English back row for decades, genuine

1833
01:36:46,067 --> 01:36:49,907
Speaker 2: attacking threat nine through fifteen could just squeeze out a

1834
01:36:50,027 --> 01:36:55,267
Speaker 2: twenty three to nineteen win. Richard, I take on board

1835
01:36:55,307 --> 01:36:59,347
Speaker 2: what you're saying. I don't think I agree with you.

1836
01:36:59,827 --> 01:37:01,267
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be an all Blacks win.

1837
01:37:01,387 --> 01:37:04,987
Speaker 2: But good to have various viewpoints represented on the show

1838
01:37:05,067 --> 01:37:08,107
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Your thoughts will welcome all of them. Oh,

1839
01:37:08,187 --> 01:37:10,027
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on the phone, nine

1840
01:37:10,107 --> 01:37:12,947
Speaker 2: two ninety two on text. When we come back, though,

1841
01:37:13,547 --> 01:37:16,267
Speaker 2: we're going to chat to Kei. We sprinter Danielle Chison.

1842
01:37:16,467 --> 01:37:19,387
Speaker 2: She is the world champion in the two hundred meter

1843
01:37:19,507 --> 01:37:23,067
Speaker 2: T thirty six and is off to her second Paralympic

1844
01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:26,307
Speaker 2: Games in Paris later in the year. We're gonna find

1845
01:37:26,307 --> 01:37:28,587
Speaker 2: out a bit about her qualification and her hopes for

1846
01:37:28,667 --> 01:37:31,947
Speaker 2: Paris when we come back Daniel Chison on Weekend Sport

1847
01:37:32,307 --> 01:37:32,867
Speaker 2: right after this.

1848
01:37:35,427 --> 01:37:38,787
Speaker 1: Live from Dunedin's Forsyth Bar Stadium on your home of

1849
01:37:38,907 --> 01:37:43,787
Speaker 1: Sport Weekend Sport with Jason five and GJ. Gardner Homes

1850
01:37:43,947 --> 01:37:47,027
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks EDB.

1851
01:37:47,707 --> 01:37:50,907
Speaker 2: Two twenty four on News Talks edb keew We sprinter

1852
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:55,267
Speaker 2: Danielle Chison has been selected for the upcoming Paralympic Games

1853
01:37:55,307 --> 01:37:58,627
Speaker 2: in Paris. Now this is not a surprise. She is

1854
01:37:58,707 --> 01:38:02,547
Speaker 2: the reigning power World two hundred meter T thirty six champion,

1855
01:38:02,947 --> 01:38:06,627
Speaker 2: setting a world record of twenty seven point four seven

1856
01:38:06,707 --> 01:38:09,947
Speaker 2: seconds to claim that gold medal in Kobe in May.

1857
01:38:10,387 --> 01:38:13,667
Speaker 2: She also claimed one hundred meter T thirty six silver

1858
01:38:14,107 --> 01:38:18,507
Speaker 2: in Kobe. Daniel Agison attended the last Paralympics in Tokyo,

1859
01:38:18,947 --> 01:38:21,187
Speaker 2: where she won silver in the women's two hundred meter

1860
01:38:21,307 --> 01:38:24,267
Speaker 2: T thirty six and bronze in the women's one hundred

1861
01:38:24,307 --> 01:38:28,307
Speaker 2: meter T thirty six. Danielle Agison is with US congratulations

1862
01:38:28,347 --> 01:38:31,707
Speaker 2: on the confirmation of your place in the Paralympic team

1863
01:38:31,747 --> 01:38:34,667
Speaker 2: for Paris. Danielle, how long would you say this has

1864
01:38:34,747 --> 01:38:35,827
Speaker 2: been a goal of yours.

1865
01:38:37,187 --> 01:38:42,547
Speaker 26: Since Tokyo. It's definitely been a goal just to it's

1866
01:38:42,627 --> 01:38:45,347
Speaker 26: been in my sights and for the last three years

1867
01:38:45,787 --> 01:38:50,867
Speaker 26: we've we've been targeting every years we push ourselves to

1868
01:38:51,507 --> 01:38:53,827
Speaker 26: do and yeah, so we're excited to get over there.

1869
01:38:54,387 --> 01:38:59,147
Speaker 2: How strange an event was Tokyo. We were in COVID times.

1870
01:38:59,187 --> 01:39:02,627
Speaker 2: Of course it wasn't It wasn't normal. How do you

1871
01:39:02,707 --> 01:39:03,307
Speaker 2: reflect on it?

1872
01:39:04,867 --> 01:39:09,107
Speaker 26: Yeah, definitely it was a different experience, especially with the

1873
01:39:09,187 --> 01:39:14,907
Speaker 26: COVID situation with no spectators, being quite isolated and having

1874
01:39:14,987 --> 01:39:18,267
Speaker 26: to follow all the COVID rules in terms of sanitation, masks,

1875
01:39:18,267 --> 01:39:21,707
Speaker 26: s wearing as well as I was quite young back

1876
01:39:21,787 --> 01:39:24,747
Speaker 26: then when I went to Tokyo Paralympic Games. So it's

1877
01:39:25,667 --> 01:39:29,267
Speaker 26: a very different experience and I'm looking forward to seeing

1878
01:39:29,307 --> 01:39:30,667
Speaker 26: what this Parallempic game brings.

1879
01:39:30,947 --> 01:39:34,027
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet. Well, it's been a really, really

1880
01:39:34,107 --> 01:39:36,547
Speaker 2: impressive recent few months for you. Can I take you

1881
01:39:36,627 --> 01:39:39,787
Speaker 2: back to Kobe in May where you won gold at

1882
01:39:39,787 --> 01:39:43,987
Speaker 2: the World Champs a world record time twenty seven for seven.

1883
01:39:44,427 --> 01:39:45,547
Speaker 2: How do you remember that day.

1884
01:39:48,387 --> 01:39:48,667
Speaker 16: It was.

1885
01:39:49,947 --> 01:39:54,187
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's still so mind blind the results that I

1886
01:39:54,307 --> 01:39:58,227
Speaker 26: got because it had been such as stressful a few

1887
01:39:58,267 --> 01:40:01,227
Speaker 26: months leading up in terms of the classification. I was

1888
01:40:01,307 --> 01:40:04,067
Speaker 26: up for the view of classification, which was the purpose

1889
01:40:04,267 --> 01:40:07,387
Speaker 26: of me going to real Champs, and so I had

1890
01:40:07,507 --> 01:40:11,627
Speaker 26: that looming over me. And so to get confirmed T

1891
01:40:11,867 --> 01:40:15,107
Speaker 26: thirty six as a classificasion, I was just really wanting

1892
01:40:15,107 --> 01:40:17,387
Speaker 26: to go out the end the two hundred and have fun.

1893
01:40:17,547 --> 01:40:20,947
Speaker 26: I'd gone over and I've achieved for any chreage, which

1894
01:40:21,067 --> 01:40:23,667
Speaker 26: was the tee thirty six, and so yeah, it was

1895
01:40:23,827 --> 01:40:27,627
Speaker 26: just so mind blowing. I was just so focused on

1896
01:40:27,707 --> 01:40:32,587
Speaker 26: myself and to cross that line and just bease. I

1897
01:40:32,747 --> 01:40:36,467
Speaker 26: was just in disbelief that I had run that fast

1898
01:40:36,547 --> 01:40:41,587
Speaker 26: and got that up time, and yeah, it was just incredible.

1899
01:40:42,667 --> 01:40:44,067
Speaker 2: I just I want to come back to that race.

1900
01:40:44,147 --> 01:40:46,747
Speaker 2: But can you talk to us about the classification process

1901
01:40:46,827 --> 01:40:49,947
Speaker 2: and the stress that it caused you Your T thirty six,

1902
01:40:50,147 --> 01:40:53,547
Speaker 2: as I understand it, you could have been reclassified as

1903
01:40:53,627 --> 01:40:55,907
Speaker 2: T thirty eight. Can you just tell us the ins

1904
01:40:55,947 --> 01:40:56,587
Speaker 2: and outs of that.

1905
01:40:57,587 --> 01:40:57,787
Speaker 6: Yes.

1906
01:40:57,987 --> 01:41:02,787
Speaker 26: Yeah, So, as a per athlete, we go through the

1907
01:41:02,787 --> 01:41:06,907
Speaker 26: classifications and we often put up for review of classification,

1908
01:41:07,147 --> 01:41:11,187
Speaker 26: which is for me a timeline of like spump six

1909
01:41:11,307 --> 01:41:14,707
Speaker 26: months to a four years kind of thing, because I'm

1910
01:41:14,867 --> 01:41:19,187
Speaker 26: have silver Poesy. Our disability changes so much that I

1911
01:41:19,467 --> 01:41:23,987
Speaker 26: was put on six months of you eighteen months ago.

1912
01:41:24,107 --> 01:41:27,907
Speaker 26: So then I had to get reclassified at World Championships

1913
01:41:28,107 --> 01:41:31,747
Speaker 26: last year in Paris, and then they put me on

1914
01:41:31,827 --> 01:41:34,347
Speaker 26: another six months review, so then I had to get

1915
01:41:34,387 --> 01:41:38,867
Speaker 26: it done again at this World Championships and that was

1916
01:41:39,027 --> 01:41:44,787
Speaker 26: just to be reclassified three times within eighteen months. It's

1917
01:41:44,947 --> 01:41:48,707
Speaker 26: just so unusual and it definitely put a lot of

1918
01:41:48,787 --> 01:41:51,827
Speaker 26: stress because it was like, well, they're really unsure if

1919
01:41:51,867 --> 01:41:53,787
Speaker 26: they're putting me on that much reviews.

1920
01:41:54,227 --> 01:41:55,067
Speaker 20: So there was a lot of.

1921
01:41:56,987 --> 01:41:59,987
Speaker 26: I guess a little bit of like am I going

1922
01:42:00,067 --> 01:42:02,427
Speaker 26: to be changed to teethdy eight? Because if I was

1923
01:42:02,627 --> 01:42:05,067
Speaker 26: changed to te thro they eight, it's a whole different

1924
01:42:05,147 --> 01:42:08,707
Speaker 26: ball game in terms of events and times and qualifications.

1925
01:42:09,707 --> 01:42:12,027
Speaker 26: So yeah, it was just it was a lot fighting

1926
01:42:12,107 --> 01:42:13,707
Speaker 26: on World Championships this year.

1927
01:42:14,347 --> 01:42:18,627
Speaker 2: Why do they have the reclassification process, Danielle. Surely if

1928
01:42:18,627 --> 01:42:21,107
Speaker 2: you're T thirty six, you're always T thirty six, aren't you?

1929
01:42:21,267 --> 01:42:21,467
Speaker 6: Or not.

1930
01:42:24,627 --> 01:42:30,747
Speaker 26: Not necessarily just because yeah, it can Honestly, my disability

1931
01:42:30,787 --> 01:42:33,147
Speaker 26: can change from day to day as so it just

1932
01:42:33,267 --> 01:42:36,587
Speaker 26: depends on the day how my silks is going to behave,

1933
01:42:36,707 --> 01:42:40,347
Speaker 26: I guess, and so sometimes they might see me present

1934
01:42:40,667 --> 01:42:45,587
Speaker 26: as very normal. Some days I can present very sil

1935
01:42:45,707 --> 01:42:48,547
Speaker 26: forsy like, and so it can just depend on what

1936
01:42:48,667 --> 01:42:51,427
Speaker 26: they see and what they pick up that. Yeah, that's

1937
01:42:51,507 --> 01:42:52,387
Speaker 26: the end result.

1938
01:42:52,627 --> 01:42:55,507
Speaker 2: Really, if they had reclassified you to T thirty eight,

1939
01:42:55,587 --> 01:42:58,347
Speaker 2: what would have been the repercussions of that?

1940
01:43:00,427 --> 01:43:05,227
Speaker 26: The first one being my event? I TTY eight only

1941
01:43:05,507 --> 01:43:09,467
Speaker 26: have one hundred, four hundred and long jump in terms

1942
01:43:09,507 --> 01:43:12,027
Speaker 26: of like that I would be interested in, So they

1943
01:43:12,067 --> 01:43:15,187
Speaker 26: wouldn't have my favorite event, which is two hundred, and

1944
01:43:17,027 --> 01:43:19,947
Speaker 26: I'm not trained for four hundred. I would never do

1945
01:43:20,067 --> 01:43:24,067
Speaker 26: four hundred as the worst of you ever and I

1946
01:43:24,187 --> 01:43:27,947
Speaker 26: haven't trained for long jump, and so yeah, and the

1947
01:43:28,067 --> 01:43:31,227
Speaker 26: events will change. And then they also run a lot

1948
01:43:31,387 --> 01:43:33,787
Speaker 26: faster than TEE three sixes, so I would need to

1949
01:43:33,827 --> 01:43:37,347
Speaker 26: be running a lot faster to meet the qualification times

1950
01:43:37,387 --> 01:43:37,707
Speaker 26: as well.

1951
01:43:38,227 --> 01:43:38,387
Speaker 12: Well.

1952
01:43:38,467 --> 01:43:41,827
Speaker 2: I'm glad it's all worked out. Okay, back to the

1953
01:43:41,867 --> 01:43:44,227
Speaker 2: two hundred twenty seven four seven, you said that you

1954
01:43:44,267 --> 01:43:47,667
Speaker 2: couldn't believe that time, how fast you reckon you can

1955
01:43:47,707 --> 01:43:51,467
Speaker 2: now run. Have you reset your aspirations and your goals

1956
01:43:51,507 --> 01:43:53,907
Speaker 2: in terms of how fast you can run two hundred?

1957
01:43:55,267 --> 01:43:59,067
Speaker 26: No, I definitely think I still have more in me

1958
01:43:59,747 --> 01:44:02,907
Speaker 26: and I'm still, yeah, really excited to see what I

1959
01:44:03,027 --> 01:44:06,547
Speaker 26: can do at the Paralympics. I definitely think there is

1960
01:44:06,627 --> 01:44:10,547
Speaker 26: no limit to what I'm wanting to put down like

1961
01:44:10,587 --> 01:44:15,227
Speaker 26: a figure and literally just like whatever will happen will happen. Yeah,

1962
01:44:15,267 --> 01:44:16,947
Speaker 26: I'm just really excited to see the time that I

1963
01:44:16,947 --> 01:44:18,027
Speaker 26: actually do produce.

1964
01:44:18,507 --> 01:44:20,787
Speaker 2: Do you give equal focus to the one hundred meters?

1965
01:44:21,667 --> 01:44:25,587
Speaker 26: Yes, Yeah, I'm equally focused on both of them, and

1966
01:44:25,947 --> 01:44:27,987
Speaker 26: I'm probably a little bit more actually on the one

1967
01:44:28,067 --> 01:44:32,427
Speaker 26: hundred specifically because the two hundred I feel a bit

1968
01:44:32,467 --> 01:44:34,707
Speaker 26: more confident that I know exactly what I need to do.

1969
01:44:35,307 --> 01:44:37,147
Speaker 26: I also have a bit more time on the two

1970
01:44:37,227 --> 01:44:40,467
Speaker 26: hundred to fix up any mistakes that I might necessarily

1971
01:44:40,547 --> 01:44:43,507
Speaker 26: make in the block starts or et cetera. Whereas the

1972
01:44:43,587 --> 01:44:47,107
Speaker 26: one hundred is literally you don't have that much time

1973
01:44:47,267 --> 01:44:50,987
Speaker 26: to do anything. It's a lot of it's do the

1974
01:44:51,147 --> 01:44:54,027
Speaker 26: short race and you've got to get everything perfect.

1975
01:44:53,787 --> 01:44:54,267
Speaker 6: To run it.

1976
01:44:54,827 --> 01:44:57,147
Speaker 2: So is the one hundred meter two hundred meters double

1977
01:44:57,947 --> 01:44:59,987
Speaker 2: hear what we're after here, is that your your goal

1978
01:45:00,107 --> 01:45:00,907
Speaker 2: to win them both?

1979
01:45:02,987 --> 01:45:04,307
Speaker 26: Yes, I would really like to do.

1980
01:45:04,467 --> 01:45:07,947
Speaker 2: That will be a silly question, isn't it. I mean

1981
01:45:07,987 --> 01:45:09,747
Speaker 2: the two hundredise you say is one you've been so

1982
01:45:09,907 --> 01:45:13,787
Speaker 2: successful and where of the whare of the improvements or

1983
01:45:13,827 --> 01:45:18,907
Speaker 2: what's been behind the phenomenal, phenomenal improvements in your times

1984
01:45:18,947 --> 01:45:20,867
Speaker 2: in the last twelve months, because as I understand it,

1985
01:45:20,907 --> 01:45:23,267
Speaker 2: over the New Zealand summer you were just setting PB

1986
01:45:23,427 --> 01:45:23,947
Speaker 2: after PB.

1987
01:45:25,227 --> 01:45:30,387
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's definitely a lot of factors. I think it

1988
01:45:30,507 --> 01:45:34,667
Speaker 26: was last year I specifically had a lot lot to

1989
01:45:34,747 --> 01:45:37,667
Speaker 26: afflict on and I found that I was hitting a

1990
01:45:37,747 --> 01:45:40,867
Speaker 26: plateau in terms of my performances. I wasn't really happy

1991
01:45:41,547 --> 01:45:46,427
Speaker 26: with just having the same performance. I really wanted to

1992
01:45:46,627 --> 01:45:49,227
Speaker 26: make another improvement, and so we reached out to a

1993
01:45:49,307 --> 01:45:53,107
Speaker 26: few different people to get their eyes on point where

1994
01:45:53,147 --> 01:45:57,027
Speaker 26: they think that I can prove. I also think cert

1995
01:45:57,547 --> 01:46:00,787
Speaker 26: other than technical, I also think it's been a massive

1996
01:46:03,107 --> 01:46:05,867
Speaker 26: mental game as well. I really pushed myself this year

1997
01:46:06,707 --> 01:46:11,667
Speaker 26: to put myself in uncomfortable situations or outside of my

1998
01:46:11,747 --> 01:46:16,427
Speaker 26: comfort zone, and especially in the racing situation, because that's

1999
01:46:16,507 --> 01:46:19,787
Speaker 26: obviously what I need to do is practice racing, and

2000
01:46:19,947 --> 01:46:23,307
Speaker 26: so during the New Zealand season, I would put myself

2001
01:46:23,427 --> 01:46:26,067
Speaker 26: in my groups of girls that are faster than me

2002
01:46:26,507 --> 01:46:28,867
Speaker 26: to really practice the environment of.

2003
01:46:29,027 --> 01:46:32,507
Speaker 2: Racing, understanding we should do the four hundred that'll make

2004
01:46:32,547 --> 01:46:33,227
Speaker 2: you uncomfortable.

2005
01:46:33,947 --> 01:46:36,627
Speaker 26: Oh no way that I would literally die.

2006
01:46:38,507 --> 01:46:41,787
Speaker 2: Oh well, so what does what does the next couple

2007
01:46:41,827 --> 01:46:45,307
Speaker 2: of months as you put your final touches on your

2008
01:46:45,347 --> 01:46:47,667
Speaker 2: preparation for the Paralympics look like? What have you got

2009
01:46:47,707 --> 01:46:48,067
Speaker 2: coming up?

2010
01:46:49,587 --> 01:46:54,427
Speaker 26: I've got about months still here in Hamilton home, where

2011
01:46:54,467 --> 01:46:56,827
Speaker 26: I'm just gonna be working with my coaches and we're

2012
01:46:56,867 --> 01:47:01,827
Speaker 26: going to be making some fine tuning some technical things,

2013
01:47:01,987 --> 01:47:04,427
Speaker 26: and then I'm going to head over to Brussels and

2014
01:47:04,587 --> 01:47:07,227
Speaker 26: Belgium and I will do a few competitions over the

2015
01:47:07,307 --> 01:47:10,547
Speaker 26: year as well as climatized for the heat because it

2016
01:47:10,667 --> 01:47:14,627
Speaker 26: is really cold here in Hamilton. It's ridiculous, So I'm

2017
01:47:14,667 --> 01:47:15,507
Speaker 26: really looking forward.

2018
01:47:15,307 --> 01:47:16,067
Speaker 6: To get into the heat.

2019
01:47:16,707 --> 01:47:20,707
Speaker 26: And then yeah, I head into pre camp with ETHNICI zigned,

2020
01:47:20,747 --> 01:47:21,707
Speaker 26: and then into the village.

2021
01:47:22,147 --> 01:47:25,027
Speaker 2: You know, are you able to have friends family with

2022
01:47:25,187 --> 01:47:28,507
Speaker 2: you this time? Because I know in Tokyo rather you know, spectators,

2023
01:47:28,667 --> 01:47:30,067
Speaker 2: there were no spectators So are you going to have

2024
01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:31,027
Speaker 2: a support crew this time.

2025
01:47:31,827 --> 01:47:35,307
Speaker 26: Yes, I've got a big support team of nine people

2026
01:47:35,427 --> 01:47:38,707
Speaker 26: coming to the Paralympic Games. So it's really exciting to

2027
01:47:38,787 --> 01:47:41,627
Speaker 26: have actually my family supporting me and the crowds and

2028
01:47:41,707 --> 01:47:42,107
Speaker 26: watching me.

2029
01:47:42,387 --> 01:47:45,547
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Daniel, terrific stuff A What a year or so

2030
01:47:45,707 --> 01:47:47,507
Speaker 2: you've had and I know there's more to come. We

2031
01:47:47,587 --> 01:47:48,947
Speaker 2: can't wait to see how you go in the one

2032
01:47:49,027 --> 01:47:51,747
Speaker 2: hundred and the two hundred meters in the upcoming Paralympic

2033
01:47:51,827 --> 01:47:53,427
Speaker 2: Games in Paris. Thanks so much for taking the time

2034
01:47:53,467 --> 01:47:53,907
Speaker 2: for a chat.

2035
01:47:54,587 --> 01:47:54,867
Speaker 26: Thank you.

2036
01:47:58,867 --> 01:48:03,947
Speaker 2: Daniel Hson there Paralympic sprinter. Yeah, what a delight to

2037
01:48:04,027 --> 01:48:06,947
Speaker 2: chat to her. Twenty seven four to seven world record

2038
01:48:07,067 --> 01:48:10,947
Speaker 2: she set to claim that gold medal in Kobe in May. Yeah,

2039
01:48:11,107 --> 01:48:13,827
Speaker 2: going from strength to strength and running both the one

2040
01:48:13,907 --> 01:48:17,747
Speaker 2: hundred and two hundred meters at the Paralympics in Paris.

2041
01:48:17,907 --> 01:48:22,067
Speaker 2: Lookout for that name, Danielle Hison. What are we time wise?

2042
01:48:22,427 --> 01:48:25,387
Speaker 2: Twenty five to three on tears, Come on by any

2043
01:48:25,387 --> 01:48:28,907
Speaker 2: you're talking David and Goliath. How about giving Lulu Soun

2044
01:48:29,107 --> 01:48:32,187
Speaker 2: a good plug? Last sixteen and a Tennis Grand Slam?

2045
01:48:32,467 --> 01:48:34,427
Speaker 2: Not many care We have been to such great heights

2046
01:48:34,467 --> 01:48:36,867
Speaker 2: and a truly global pro sport.

2047
01:48:36,987 --> 01:48:37,467
Speaker 6: Go Lulu.

2048
01:48:37,787 --> 01:48:40,787
Speaker 2: I totally agree, Grant I do. I totally agree. We

2049
01:48:40,867 --> 01:48:43,707
Speaker 2: haven't had the opportunity times a bit of a funny

2050
01:48:43,747 --> 01:48:45,867
Speaker 2: one with winmwared in the middle of the night over

2051
01:48:45,907 --> 01:48:48,147
Speaker 2: there at the moment, but we will do our best

2052
01:48:48,227 --> 01:48:51,507
Speaker 2: to well, either chat to Lulu once she's knocked out.

2053
01:48:51,547 --> 01:48:54,627
Speaker 2: They're bit harder to get to once they're while they're playing,

2054
01:48:54,667 --> 01:48:55,987
Speaker 2: but yeah, we'd love to have a chat to her,

2055
01:48:56,067 --> 01:49:01,507
Speaker 2: or we'll certainly follow her progress after she's won the tournament. Andy,

2056
01:49:01,547 --> 01:49:03,507
Speaker 2: we did not know that. We're not expecting her to

2057
01:49:03,547 --> 01:49:04,427
Speaker 2: get knocked out, are we.

2058
01:49:05,267 --> 01:49:05,467
Speaker 14: Well.

2059
01:49:06,427 --> 01:49:09,227
Speaker 2: The funny thing about the women's game is that anything

2060
01:49:09,307 --> 01:49:13,267
Speaker 2: feels possible. It's not as though there's a Novak Djokovic

2061
01:49:13,387 --> 01:49:16,907
Speaker 2: absolutely monstering everybody in sight. Not that he's necessarily doing

2062
01:49:16,987 --> 01:49:18,787
Speaker 2: that at this time of his career either, but you

2063
01:49:18,867 --> 01:49:20,947
Speaker 2: know what I mean. In the women's game, the seeding

2064
01:49:21,067 --> 01:49:25,587
Speaker 2: seem almost incidental, sometimes to me, awfully arbitrary sometimes as well,

2065
01:49:25,627 --> 01:49:29,387
Speaker 2: as you see so many more unseeded players often then

2066
01:49:29,467 --> 01:49:33,107
Speaker 2: seeded players when it comes to sort of the quarter

2067
01:49:33,187 --> 01:49:36,467
Speaker 2: final stages onwards, when we're we're up to now. So yeah,

2068
01:49:36,587 --> 01:49:39,907
Speaker 2: absolutely no, come on, and don't think that we're not

2069
01:49:39,987 --> 01:49:43,547
Speaker 2: behind her, because absolutely we are. She's playing Emma Rudder

2070
01:49:43,587 --> 01:49:46,267
Speaker 2: Khanu in the next round and so again like Emma

2071
01:49:46,307 --> 01:49:48,307
Speaker 2: run Acan, who's a bit of a darling, isn't she

2072
01:49:48,387 --> 01:49:51,307
Speaker 2: of the tennis world? So there will be lots of

2073
01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:55,067
Speaker 2: eyeballs on that particular game. So for Lulusun so what

2074
01:49:55,787 --> 01:49:57,627
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do the sum set. If she

2075
01:49:57,667 --> 01:50:00,267
Speaker 2: wins that, she goes into the quarter finals, the quarter

2076
01:50:00,467 --> 01:50:04,147
Speaker 2: finals at Wimbledon. So yeah, no, very very happy grant

2077
01:50:04,227 --> 01:50:06,347
Speaker 2: to give her a plug and not just to play,

2078
01:50:06,627 --> 01:50:10,107
Speaker 2: but to say, hey, here's something pretty special. Let's hope

2079
01:50:10,107 --> 01:50:14,187
Speaker 2: it continues when she takes to the court at Wimbledon.

2080
01:50:14,307 --> 01:50:17,107
Speaker 2: Think early hours of tomorrow morning's her game. Yes, so

2081
01:50:17,187 --> 01:50:19,507
Speaker 2: this time tomorrow we'll be able to chat about that.

2082
01:50:20,187 --> 01:50:23,467
Speaker 2: We're come to your live from Test City, Dunedin. I'm

2083
01:50:23,467 --> 01:50:25,827
Speaker 2: at Forsyth Bar Stadium at the moment and the good

2084
01:50:25,867 --> 01:50:27,547
Speaker 2: thing about being here in the afternoon, or one of

2085
01:50:27,627 --> 01:50:28,987
Speaker 2: the good things is he yet to see them do

2086
01:50:29,067 --> 01:50:33,027
Speaker 2: all the rehearsals. So you know, on a rugby test,

2087
01:50:33,147 --> 01:50:37,587
Speaker 2: there's you know on ground what they call activations competitions.

2088
01:50:37,627 --> 01:50:40,267
Speaker 2: They're testing out the big screen. Sometimes we get the

2089
01:50:40,347 --> 01:50:43,587
Speaker 2: timing right and we get the national anthem rehearsal. I

2090
01:50:43,667 --> 01:50:45,427
Speaker 2: know we heard that a couple of times last year

2091
01:50:45,427 --> 01:50:48,107
Speaker 2: when we did the shows from test venues. However, they

2092
01:50:48,147 --> 01:50:51,907
Speaker 2: haven't rolled out the national anthem singers just yet. At

2093
01:50:51,907 --> 01:50:54,867
Speaker 2: the moment, they're going through the teams on the big screen,

2094
01:50:55,307 --> 01:50:57,627
Speaker 2: just making sure they're all in the right order and

2095
01:50:57,747 --> 01:51:00,227
Speaker 2: that the numbers are right and the images are right

2096
01:51:00,267 --> 01:51:02,187
Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing. So yeah, that's the

2097
01:51:02,267 --> 01:51:05,027
Speaker 2: sort of behind the scenes of what's going on here

2098
01:51:05,387 --> 01:51:08,827
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Speaker 2: a triumphant return whether it's all new podcast rendition on

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio podcast network. The podcast is called Sports Cafe Ish.

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Speaker 2: New episodes available every Wednesday. It's hosted by three of

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Speaker 2: the original crew, former All Black and Warriors player Mark Ellis,

2128
01:52:55,067 --> 01:53:00,027
Speaker 2: comedian Lee Hart, and journalist, TV presenter and producer Rick Salito,

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Speaker 2: who joins us. Now, Rick, I've heard you say in

2130
01:53:02,067 --> 01:53:04,987
Speaker 2: the past that this sports cafe when you were doing it,

2131
01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:07,227
Speaker 2: was one of the most stress small things have ever

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01:53:07,307 --> 01:53:09,187
Speaker 2: done in your life. So how much did they have

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01:53:09,307 --> 01:53:10,587
Speaker 2: to pay you to put yourself through this?

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01:53:10,707 --> 01:53:14,867
Speaker 8: Again, Let's just clarify one thing. At at the start,

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01:53:15,627 --> 01:53:19,587
Speaker 8: Mark doesn't get top billing, so you know, we don't

2136
01:53:19,627 --> 01:53:22,667
Speaker 8: start with Mark Ellis, you know. No, it was Look,

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01:53:22,747 --> 01:53:25,987
Speaker 8: it was I bumped into Mecca when we were at

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01:53:26,027 --> 01:53:29,747
Speaker 8: the World Cup in France, and I'd been living in

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01:53:29,787 --> 01:53:31,347
Speaker 8: the US for a few years and I hadn't seen

2140
01:53:31,427 --> 01:53:34,667
Speaker 8: him for ages, and I just really enjoyed catching up.

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Speaker 8: And then when I came back to New Zealand and

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01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:39,067
Speaker 8: caught up with Lee Hart, and I just reminded myself

2143
01:53:39,187 --> 01:53:41,787
Speaker 8: of just how much money is and how what a

2144
01:53:41,907 --> 01:53:45,307
Speaker 8: genius he is, And so I thought, why don't we

2145
01:53:45,427 --> 01:53:49,027
Speaker 8: just do something together, you know. And the thing I

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01:53:49,107 --> 01:53:52,267
Speaker 8: love about it is, you know, with this new sort

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01:53:52,307 --> 01:53:56,027
Speaker 8: of you know, podcast and YouTube and social media, and

2148
01:53:56,027 --> 01:53:58,787
Speaker 8: all these things is you can go direct to your audience,

2149
01:53:59,187 --> 01:54:04,147
Speaker 8: and that's really exciting for a creator. So so the

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01:54:04,227 --> 01:54:06,507
Speaker 8: opportunity to sort of work in those new mediums with

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01:54:06,667 --> 01:54:09,667
Speaker 8: people that you really enjoy working with. I mean, it

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01:54:09,787 --> 01:54:10,627
Speaker 8: was just a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: So what can we expect when we listened to episodes

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01:54:13,747 --> 01:54:15,147
Speaker 2: of Sports Cafe Ish.

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01:54:16,027 --> 01:54:21,067
Speaker 8: Oka't No, It's like, put it this way, what you

2156
01:54:21,107 --> 01:54:23,507
Speaker 8: can expect is the opposite to what I prepare.

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01:54:24,547 --> 01:54:26,307
Speaker 6: Yep, that's probably it.

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01:54:26,827 --> 01:54:26,947
Speaker 20: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the secret of the show, or

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Speaker 2: one of the secrets of the show when it was

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01:54:31,787 --> 01:54:34,267
Speaker 2: on television, was that you never really knew, did you,

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01:54:34,427 --> 01:54:36,307
Speaker 2: And you got the feeling as a viewer that you

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01:54:36,427 --> 01:54:37,347
Speaker 2: never really knew either.

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Speaker 8: No, no, no, Like I knew what it was when

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Speaker 8: I started out. You know, he's a paper and I

2166
01:54:44,707 --> 01:54:46,347
Speaker 8: was like, this is what the structure of the show is.

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01:54:47,267 --> 01:54:49,507
Speaker 8: And then Mark would do everything he could do to

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Speaker 8: ruin that and Lee would you know. I used to

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01:54:52,987 --> 01:54:55,227
Speaker 8: say to Lee when we were going setting him out

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01:54:55,227 --> 01:54:57,267
Speaker 8: to do a story, I'd asked him to do something

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01:54:57,267 --> 01:54:58,987
Speaker 8: and he'd come back with the opposite. So then I

2172
01:54:59,027 --> 01:55:01,467
Speaker 8: would tell him the opposite of what I wanted hoping

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01:55:01,507 --> 01:55:03,827
Speaker 8: that I'd get what I wanted, and that worked for

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01:55:03,867 --> 01:55:05,667
Speaker 8: about two weeks, and then he worked that out, and

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01:55:05,747 --> 01:55:08,547
Speaker 8: then it got so confusing. I couldn't work out whether

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01:55:08,627 --> 01:55:10,627
Speaker 8: I was telling him the opposite or I was telling

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01:55:10,667 --> 01:55:12,267
Speaker 8: them the real thing, because I couldn't work out what

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01:55:12,387 --> 01:55:17,667
Speaker 8: stage we're at. But yeah, I mean, it's just you know,

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Speaker 8: if you want to know the motivations for doing it,

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01:55:21,107 --> 01:55:23,467
Speaker 8: it's just because I want to have some fun and

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01:55:23,907 --> 01:55:28,147
Speaker 8: they want to have fun too. There's nothing deeper than that.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, in many ways, that's that's probably the

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01:55:33,067 --> 01:55:35,387
Speaker 2: most pure reason for doing anything.

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Speaker 6: Really.

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Speaker 2: It's not as though you're going to make you a

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01:55:37,347 --> 01:55:39,627
Speaker 2: gazillion dollars out of it, probably, although you might get

2187
01:55:39,667 --> 01:55:42,347
Speaker 2: some sponsors on board, I presume, and make a bit

2188
01:55:42,347 --> 01:55:44,987
Speaker 2: of coin. But yeah, and again, that was what it

2189
01:55:45,067 --> 01:55:47,587
Speaker 2: always seemed like watching it on TV back in the day.

2190
01:55:47,667 --> 01:55:50,347
Speaker 2: Was it just a bunch of people around having fun

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01:55:50,427 --> 01:55:52,707
Speaker 2: with one another and bringing the audience along for the ride.

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01:55:52,787 --> 01:55:55,587
Speaker 2: So I get the feeling it will translate perfectly into

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Speaker 2: the podcast realm.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let me give you a tip. The way to

2195
01:55:59,267 --> 01:56:02,787
Speaker 8: make money is not by making TV shows and podcasts.

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01:56:02,867 --> 01:56:05,747
Speaker 8: It's making its selling orange juice and potato chips. Yes,

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Speaker 8: that's that's where.

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Speaker 21: The money is.

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Speaker 8: That that's the only the whole thing is. You know,

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01:56:13,547 --> 01:56:16,147
Speaker 8: here I am sort of, you know, fifteen twenty years

2201
01:56:16,147 --> 01:56:18,667
Speaker 8: ago to the boss, sort of starting them out. Now

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01:56:18,787 --> 01:56:21,267
Speaker 8: they sort of doing me a favor in between, you know,

2203
01:56:22,147 --> 01:56:25,147
Speaker 8: their orange juice millions and their potato chip empires.

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01:56:25,987 --> 01:56:28,227
Speaker 2: Do you think people who never saw Sports Cafe on

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01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:30,307
Speaker 2: TV will get something out of this podcast too?

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01:56:31,387 --> 01:56:31,587
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:56:31,627 --> 01:56:36,827
Speaker 8: I think so. It's been. That's been really like I've

2208
01:56:36,867 --> 01:56:39,747
Speaker 8: had a lot of feedback obviously, And the beautiful thing

2209
01:56:39,827 --> 01:56:43,707
Speaker 8: about social and stuff is people tell you what they think,

2210
01:56:44,667 --> 01:56:46,707
Speaker 8: and sometimes they don't think when they tell you. But

2211
01:56:47,467 --> 01:56:49,867
Speaker 8: what's really cool about it is that there are lots

2212
01:56:49,907 --> 01:56:52,947
Speaker 8: of people in there in the early twenties are getting

2213
01:56:52,987 --> 01:56:57,707
Speaker 8: into it. It's funny because I hear the word political

2214
01:56:57,747 --> 01:57:00,827
Speaker 8: correctness thrown around all the time, and you know, you

2215
01:57:00,947 --> 01:57:02,987
Speaker 8: guys are so anti PC and stuff like that, and

2216
01:57:03,067 --> 01:57:06,787
Speaker 8: it's like not really like we're just as you know,

2217
01:57:06,907 --> 01:57:09,227
Speaker 8: we're just normal. We're just bathing like we normally do,

2218
01:57:11,787 --> 01:57:16,067
Speaker 8: and like we're just not complaining about stuff, so you know,

2219
01:57:16,947 --> 01:57:18,987
Speaker 8: we're just we're just focused on having fun, and I

2220
01:57:19,027 --> 01:57:23,587
Speaker 8: think that I think I think that younger demographic sort

2221
01:57:23,627 --> 01:57:25,587
Speaker 8: of that works for them. But at the end of

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01:57:25,627 --> 01:57:28,387
Speaker 8: the day, I make this for people that think they're

2223
01:57:28,427 --> 01:57:31,947
Speaker 8: in their twenties, Like that's me, Like I've got three

2224
01:57:32,027 --> 01:57:34,987
Speaker 8: skateboards in an Xbox, Like I still think I'm twenty three.

2225
01:57:35,107 --> 01:57:38,107
Speaker 8: So and I know plenty of people like that, and

2226
01:57:38,187 --> 01:57:41,387
Speaker 8: I think you're one of them. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, So

2227
01:57:41,947 --> 01:57:43,947
Speaker 8: it's a mindset. It's not an age.

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Speaker 6: I am.

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01:57:46,427 --> 01:57:48,867
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the at the official release from this

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01:57:49,387 --> 01:57:52,627
Speaker 2: from the podcast, and it says listeners can expect discussions

2231
01:57:52,667 --> 01:57:56,507
Speaker 2: on current sporting issues and surprise guest appearances. So you've

2232
01:57:56,507 --> 01:57:58,747
Speaker 2: got a few surprise guests jacked up?

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01:57:59,987 --> 01:58:01,867
Speaker 6: Have I me?

2234
01:58:02,787 --> 01:58:04,707
Speaker 8: So that's a surprise, the surprises.

2235
01:58:04,747 --> 01:58:05,427
Speaker 21: I didn't know that.

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01:58:06,067 --> 01:58:10,267
Speaker 8: So so that's good. No, Well, well, I mean hopefully

2237
01:58:10,307 --> 01:58:13,867
Speaker 8: we'll catch up with with you know, everyone from the

2238
01:58:14,027 --> 01:58:18,827
Speaker 8: from the old crew at some stage, like probably fifty

2239
01:58:18,827 --> 01:58:23,027
Speaker 8: percent of my comments so far were is Lana, Yeah,

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01:58:24,067 --> 01:58:27,427
Speaker 8: and we're chasing it. She's a lot returning my calls.

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01:58:28,907 --> 01:58:30,867
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean it's it's been good to catch

2242
01:58:30,947 --> 01:58:34,467
Speaker 8: up with people and good too. Like this week's episode,

2243
01:58:34,507 --> 01:58:36,787
Speaker 8: we caught up with Sam Kane, which was really cool.

2244
01:58:37,947 --> 01:58:41,987
Speaker 8: Last week it was Shari Shara Kaka from The Blackman Sevens.

2245
01:58:43,907 --> 01:58:48,227
Speaker 8: The great thing about technology now is, you know, it's

2246
01:58:48,227 --> 01:58:50,467
Speaker 8: always been easy for radio. I mean I started out

2247
01:58:50,507 --> 01:58:52,307
Speaker 8: on radio. It's always been easy for you to ring

2248
01:58:52,587 --> 01:58:54,747
Speaker 8: ring someone up and record them and check them out.

2249
01:58:54,787 --> 01:58:56,547
Speaker 8: But it's always been hard for TV to do that.

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01:58:57,787 --> 01:58:59,707
Speaker 8: You know, in the old days, we used to have

2251
01:59:00,027 --> 01:59:02,467
Speaker 8: sort of put up a satellite, you know. But now

2252
01:59:02,587 --> 01:59:06,067
Speaker 8: with technology, people can be in their lounges and they

2253
01:59:06,107 --> 01:59:08,227
Speaker 8: can be your guest and your show, so it makes

2254
01:59:08,267 --> 01:59:10,427
Speaker 8: it a little bit easier than it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, look forward to new episodes every Wednesday. Hey Rick,

2256
01:59:13,707 --> 01:59:16,467
Speaker 2: just well, I've got you. You had three years a

2257
01:59:16,587 --> 01:59:19,467
Speaker 2: CEO of Rugby United New York. I just want to

2258
01:59:19,707 --> 01:59:21,627
Speaker 2: get your assessment of where the game of rugby is

2259
01:59:21,667 --> 01:59:22,587
Speaker 2: in the US right now.

2260
01:59:24,227 --> 01:59:26,227
Speaker 8: You know, the first thing I did was get rid

2261
01:59:26,227 --> 01:59:29,067
Speaker 8: of United, so we changed it to Rugby New York

2262
01:59:29,227 --> 01:59:33,907
Speaker 8: because you know, a nice soccer team. But yeah, it's

2263
01:59:33,947 --> 01:59:37,947
Speaker 8: a fascinating it was. I really enjoyed myself in New York,

2264
01:59:38,547 --> 01:59:40,507
Speaker 8: you know, running a professional rugby team, and we had

2265
01:59:40,547 --> 01:59:43,387
Speaker 8: a great crew of people. We had Andy allis what's

2266
01:59:43,427 --> 01:59:46,787
Speaker 8: suck in the hollow name of the Scudder, you know,

2267
01:59:47,547 --> 01:59:49,307
Speaker 8: render they kind of Jason Emery, a lot of New

2268
01:59:49,387 --> 01:59:57,587
Speaker 8: Zealand names with us. It's Americans, American rugby people. It's

2269
01:59:57,667 --> 01:59:59,187
Speaker 8: like a band of courage for them to be a

2270
01:59:59,227 --> 02:00:02,147
Speaker 8: rugby fan or and and they really are proud of it,

2271
02:00:02,267 --> 02:00:04,987
Speaker 8: and they they give it so much love and attention,

2272
02:00:05,187 --> 02:00:09,507
Speaker 8: and I I really enjoyed working with those people. The

2273
02:00:09,667 --> 02:00:14,627
Speaker 8: game is growing all the time, and the competition MLR

2274
02:00:15,107 --> 02:00:18,147
Speaker 8: is is you know, it's I don't know it's seventh

2275
02:00:18,227 --> 02:00:20,587
Speaker 8: or eighth year, but it's it's just keeps learning and

2276
02:00:21,787 --> 02:00:24,627
Speaker 8: evolving and moving in different places and different ways, and

2277
02:00:26,107 --> 02:00:28,507
Speaker 8: you know, it's it's really exciting, and it's really exciting

2278
02:00:29,347 --> 02:00:31,147
Speaker 8: for the game of rugby. I mean that was a

2279
02:00:31,267 --> 02:00:34,387
Speaker 8: big part of the attraction for me was being at

2280
02:00:34,467 --> 02:00:37,987
Speaker 8: the you know, in the in the world west, the

2281
02:00:38,027 --> 02:00:41,187
Speaker 8: frontier of a new of the game, growing in new

2282
02:00:41,267 --> 02:00:43,907
Speaker 8: places and and it's really exciting.

2283
02:00:44,107 --> 02:00:47,227
Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff. Well looking forward to hearing, as

2284
02:00:47,267 --> 02:00:50,227
Speaker 2: I say, new episodes of Sports Cafe dropping every Wednesday

2285
02:00:50,227 --> 02:00:53,307
Speaker 2: on Nightheart radio or wherever people get their podcast. I'll

2286
02:00:53,347 --> 02:00:55,307
Speaker 2: give it the correct building now rix Elite so with

2287
02:00:55,467 --> 02:00:58,787
Speaker 2: Lee Hart and Mark Ellis as well, and some surprise

2288
02:00:58,907 --> 02:01:00,387
Speaker 2: guests actually.

2289
02:01:00,627 --> 02:01:03,387
Speaker 8: Didn't even give Mark Ellis a billing. Just say rix Alito,

2290
02:01:03,467 --> 02:01:04,067
Speaker 8: Lee Hart.

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02:01:03,947 --> 02:01:06,707
Speaker 2: And others rix Elite so Lee hard enough on the

2292
02:01:06,747 --> 02:01:08,307
Speaker 2: Sports Cafe Ish podcast.

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02:01:08,347 --> 02:01:12,587
Speaker 21: Great to chat Rick, Thanks bnnys rix.

2294
02:01:12,507 --> 02:01:14,627
Speaker 2: Ally so They're always good to get the chance to

2295
02:01:14,667 --> 02:01:18,587
Speaker 2: catch up with him. Iconic Sports Cafe Sports Cafe Ish

2296
02:01:18,987 --> 02:01:21,387
Speaker 2: just look for it on iHeartRadio or wherever you get

2297
02:01:21,427 --> 02:01:24,187
Speaker 2: your podcasts from. Might be something to add to your

2298
02:01:24,507 --> 02:01:28,107
Speaker 2: to your weekly listening. With new episodes every Wednesday nine

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Speaker 2: AWA from three News Talks.

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Speaker 16: He'db the scoop from the.

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Speaker 1: Track, Field and the Court on your home of sort

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Speaker 1: weekends for it, Where's Jason Vine News.

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Speaker 2: Talks NB two point fifty four. That show has flown,

2304
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Speaker 2: I must say, and hopefully we've got you through a

2305
02:01:43,347 --> 02:01:46,027
Speaker 2: couple of hours as we head towards kickoff tonight in

2306
02:01:46,067 --> 02:01:48,627
Speaker 2: the All Blacks England Test match here at Forsyth Bass Stadium,

2307
02:01:49,387 --> 02:01:51,747
Speaker 2: five past seven. Our build up those starts at six,

2308
02:01:51,867 --> 02:01:53,587
Speaker 2: so Andy and I are going to take a bit

2309
02:01:53,667 --> 02:01:55,747
Speaker 2: of a break and then we'll be back at six

2310
02:01:55,867 --> 02:01:59,147
Speaker 2: together to bring you the build up to tonight's test

2311
02:01:59,227 --> 02:02:01,267
Speaker 2: match full live commentary here on news Talks. He'd be

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02:02:01,347 --> 02:02:04,187
Speaker 2: built up from six kickoff at seven. Thanks indeed for

2313
02:02:04,347 --> 02:02:07,267
Speaker 2: taking part in the show this afternoon. Heaps of calls,

2314
02:02:07,347 --> 02:02:09,947
Speaker 2: heaps of texts, heaps of interaction. That's what we like.

2315
02:02:10,027 --> 02:02:12,787
Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow to break it all down from midday tomorrow.

2316
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Speaker 2: We'll just talk about what happens tonight, I think and

2317
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Speaker 2: see where that takes us, and ordinarily it takes us

2318
02:02:18,267 --> 02:02:21,267
Speaker 2: into all sorts of different places. Thanks to any McDonald

2319
02:02:21,307 --> 02:02:24,067
Speaker 2: for producing this part of the Saturday program. What have

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Speaker 2: you chosen is the exit song today mate, before we go, Piney,

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Speaker 2: have you given a prediction yet for the night tonight's game? No,

2322
02:02:29,747 --> 02:02:32,547
Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm going all blacks one to twelve. That

2323
02:02:32,707 --> 02:02:36,187
Speaker 2: might not match up with my bullishness earlier, but yeah,

2324
02:02:36,347 --> 02:02:39,427
Speaker 2: England are okay, I've got all blacks unders. What about you? Okay,

2325
02:02:39,587 --> 02:02:41,787
Speaker 2: I'm going all blacks overs. I'm going like forty points

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02:02:41,787 --> 02:02:44,587
Speaker 2: to five to the all blacks, so it's forty five.

2327
02:02:45,867 --> 02:02:49,667
Speaker 2: Gild your unconverted. Try an unconverted try to England is

2328
02:02:49,667 --> 02:02:52,547
Speaker 2: all they've got to show. They minutes, there'll be like

2329
02:02:52,627 --> 02:02:54,947
Speaker 2: a line out drive, but they bring it into the

2330
02:02:54,947 --> 02:02:57,267
Speaker 2: middle of the field and then it's under the post,

2331
02:02:57,307 --> 02:02:59,387
Speaker 2: but they still somehow miss the conversion off the post.

2332
02:02:59,907 --> 02:03:02,507
Speaker 2: So yeah, and they'll get like a bunch of yellow cards.

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02:03:02,987 --> 02:03:04,707
Speaker 2: That's that's my prediction.

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Speaker 16: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I've got you shape shifted Duchiese just to get the

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Speaker 2: typical all Blacks hype going on the first Test match

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Speaker 2: Day Saturday of the year. Love it, We'll see you tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's sex for build up to the teaset match.

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Speaker 4: Dem Welcome to the Right.

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Speaker 16: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.

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