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Speaker 1: Last week ended with this bizarre situation where Labor basically

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Speaker 1: came out against a pay rise for teachers. If you

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Speaker 1: caught the end of last week. They did this because of, well,

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Speaker 1: that's what the unions want, and what the unions want

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Speaker 1: the unions generally get with labor. Union strategy one oh

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Speaker 1: one is getting everyone who's not a member to become one.

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Speaker 1: The tactic generally is pear pressure. If you can deprive

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Speaker 1: non union members of pay rise while dragging out your negotiations,

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Speaker 1: that's leverage. Labor last week got rid of Willow gene Prime.

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Speaker 1: About time she's scored an F in the portfolio. Ginny

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Speaker 1: Anderson's been lumped with it at a time when national

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Speaker 1: is seen across a bunch of different polls. This term

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Speaker 1: to be either better or at least as good as

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Speaker 1: labor on education, which is saying something because like health,

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Speaker 1: it's usually the purview of the left to own that issue.

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Speaker 1: But something shifted and Ginny probably and maybe that's partly

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Speaker 1: Erica Stanford's doing, but Ginny probably needs to take a

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Speaker 1: good hard look at which battles she blindly follows who

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Speaker 1: Comrade's into. She's now got education, of course, charter schools

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Speaker 1: is another example. I was reading at the weekend about

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Speaker 1: the breadth of subjects and students that these schools actually

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Speaker 1: cater to. You've got seven Mardy schools, You've got a

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Speaker 1: Pacific a girls' school who were featured on the show previously, Autism,

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Speaker 1: French Sport, Cambridge, you name it, there's a shopping list.

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Speaker 1: Last week the Principals Union said all of those schools,

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Speaker 1: I think they're about nineteen applications for them so far.

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Speaker 1: All of them should be closed and the money, they say,

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Speaker 1: should be put back into the mainstream system. They don't

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Speaker 1: believe schools are failing certain cohorts of young people, which

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Speaker 1: is the very reason, of course, that charter schools exist

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Now, to an average parent, or

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Speaker 1: an average person, but actually an average voter, more importantly

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Speaker 1: for the politicians. For an average voter, this looks political

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Speaker 1: and not practical. I think most kiwis except that mainstream

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Speaker 1: schooling doesn't work for everyone. Most also accept that teaching

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Speaker 1: needs to be better paid, regardless of your union affiliation.

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Speaker 1: So to rile against these things just because your union

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Speaker 1: mates demand you do so is hardly going to win

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Speaker 1: back public support in an area where ground has clearly

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Speaker 1: been lost. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.

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