1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: marketing of your home on. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: The Huddle Tonight, Q and a host and host of 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Saturday Mornings on z B, Jack Tam Hey, Jack Killer right, 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: good to have you on the show. Marris Williamson's here 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Upland councilor as well, Kilda Morris, Hi. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: Hi, Jack that I shouldn't have said that. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 4: Hijack on a plane, Morris, he does on a plane, correct, I. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Just got that right. Let's talk speeds on the roads. Maris, 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: you look like someone who wants to go fast. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 3: Well, I was Minister of Transport for some years and 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: I argued against the sort of Zealots always wanting to 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: go with blanket speed reductions. Look, there are some roads 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: where you need low speeds, some of the back roads 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: out of Auckland here where there's lots of curly twisty 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: bends one hundred k's inappropriate. But the Zalots and I 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: include the last Labor government, decided we'll have a blanket 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: reduction of speeds right across the board. Now, if you 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: look at the Packernger Highway here, we were three lanes 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: either way it was sixty and they just put it 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: down to fifty. Nobody does it, not even the vicar 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: on his way to church. And it just created so 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: much anger at just copped an unbelievable and a flat 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: for the stupid decisions of putting the speed limits down. 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack, do you how do you feel about this? 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: Because that I mean the left is saying and Labour's saying, 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: this is going to mean that people die, and then 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: the government will have blood on their hands because they're 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: the ones that made the change arest the blanket ban. 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 4: I think I think there's always a tension with speed limits, right, 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: and it doesn't actually matter what the speed limit anywhere is. 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: I mean, if you have unlimited speed limits everywhere, you're 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: going to have more deaths on the road, and inevitably, 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: where speed limits are higher, you have greater risk of death. 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, you have to balance those 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: concerns with productivity. And I think Morris is right in 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: that a blanket approach to reducing speed limits doesn't work. 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Ideally. 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: You want to go around with much more precision and say, actually, 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: this is a well engineered road, this is a relatively 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: safe area. We think that we can safely maintain a 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: speed limit at the current level without having a blanket 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: kind of approach. And you know that's obviously where a 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: lot of the pushbackers come. But you know, when you 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: go back and you reverse the speed limb, it's you know, inevitably, 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: you know, you do risk the possibility that there could 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: be serious accents, there could be deaths, and you know, 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: and if in the future that comes to bear, and 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: we all hope it doesn't, you can be sure that 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: the opposition is going to come out and say this 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: is because the decision your government's made. 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: But Brian, one of the those issues he was outside 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: of schools. They wanted to put a blanket down to 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: thirty k outside of schools full stop. Now let me 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: just give you a quick number here, the number of 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: hours in a year where schools have got kids arriving 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: and leaving. Given there's six weeks at Christmas they're not there, 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: and there's three other lots of two week holidays, and 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: there's Saturdays and Sundays they're not there, those hours come 60 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: to four percent of the year where kids are arriving 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: and leaving school. Now, do you want to put a 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: blanket down to thirty k for the entire year, or 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: how about you have a different end speed zone just 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: for the times when the kids are in danger. 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me why this 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: was changed in the first place. But anyway we are 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: they're doing. They're reversing that change, although they are consulting 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: on a whole bunch more. Apparently for the rules, you 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: have to consult. 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: They're not allowed to just make the change. 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So where do these rules come from? Because Karen 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: mcinnulty was the Associate Minister of Transport and said that 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: he couldn't get a speed changed on his local road, 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: you've got the Minister of Transport unable to change speed 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: limits because he NZTA has too much power. Who gave 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: NZTA power? And can't you just take it off them? 77 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: Well you can, and that's what simm and Brown did 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: by changing the speed rule. The minister has to go 79 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: out and consult and then finally table a rule about 80 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: how new speed limits are set and so on, and 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: that you therefore, you can't just sit down and write 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: an executive order with a big signature on it and 83 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: on a black book like Trump does. But you've got 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: to consult and soign. But he sim and Brown did that. 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: Got a whole new set of speed limit rules settings 86 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: in place, and as of the first of July, all 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: these new speed limits have to be and I'm just 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: delighted about it. 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack, the new press sect for the White House, Carolyn, 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's leave it or leave it, 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: but she left it all out there on the and 92 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: the briefing today, and she's I mean, I kind of 93 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: like the style. It's techno prisoners, it's very direct. It's 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: the antithesis of the last one. 95 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: It's well, yeah, of Biden's one year, but maybe not. 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: I can't. I mean Donald Trump went through a couple 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 4: I think in his first in his first term, remember Spicer, 98 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: he was always was it Sean Spicer. He was a 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: character and went on to a distinguished career as a 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: contestant on Dancing with the Stars in the US. Yeah, 101 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean, it's very it's very on brand for Trump 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: right to have someone you know, go up and stand 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: at the podium and decide to fight back. I mean, 104 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: I have no problem with her age, although for some 105 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: reason people seem to be moaning about that. I have 106 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: no problem with that whatsoever. I do think it's c 107 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 4: curious that she's looking to open up accreditation for various 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: other people in the in the White House Press briefing room. 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: You know, I have no problem with maybe bloggers and 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: you know, even even podcast hosts having an opportunity to 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: apply for accreditation. I do think influencers might be where 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: I draw the line. So someone who does no reporting 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: whatsoever and just shills for companies through an Instagram channel, 114 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: the Yeah, that's probably not someone I would necessarily want. 115 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: You know, you'd hope that people could at least apply 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: a little bit of scrutiny if they're in that position. 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: But I suppose this is the Trump Way. 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that room is so dreadfully small. It doesn't 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: look it on TV, but. 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: It's so incredibating. 121 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: It's really tiny. So when you get your CNNs and 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: Fox and all of the mainstream media in the first 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: few rows, there's no room for anybody else. If you 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: think of how many bloggers there are in the United 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: States and how many influences that you could put it 126 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: in the Buddy Grand Stadium. 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: That all the all the scene in people are being fined, 128 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: you see, so there'll there'll be plenty of room. I 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: would of thoughts the new media. 130 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: What a contrast of the last one, where Biden would 131 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: not come out of his little room, he wouldn't take 132 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: any questions from anybody unless he was walking to the helicopter, 133 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: and then he couldn't hear the question and you couldn't 134 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: hear his answer. I mean Trump's done more press conferences 135 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: since he's been elected than Biden did in the last year. 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Very true, Jack Tame Marris Williamson on the huddle back 137 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: in a second. So it's been a disappointing start to 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: the parliamentary year. I think anyway this year, this week 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: in Parliament we've had to Party Maldy call the Children's 140 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: mister Karen Shaw basically saying she's not Moldy enough, she 141 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: has a Maldy fucker Papa, she fuck Papa's Maldy. And 142 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: today they said you don't know the essence of being Maldy. 143 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: I mean, how can you say that to a Maldy woman. Anyway. 144 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: Then we've also had from the Greens accusations that Winston 145 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Peters has been xenophobic towards them. So we're all focused 146 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: on the right issues. Marris Williamson on the panel with 147 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: us and Jack Tame Morris. I just shake my head, honestly. 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I know. 149 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a tragedy that it isn't a 150 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: debate on real issues and things that affects people's lives, 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: changes their pocket their pocketbooks, that they've got some more money. 152 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: I think Karen Chew is a particularly good minister, and 153 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: I think with her background as having been awarded the 154 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: state and so on, she's a perfect person to be 155 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: in that role. She knows it's sort of inside out. 156 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: I've got a lot of respect for that lady. 157 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Jack. A lot of the media, a lot of the 158 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: text coming in and saying, oh, the media doesn't give 159 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: to Party Mahdi the same hard time that they would 160 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: give Winston, for example, over something he might have said. 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Do you think there's truth in that? 162 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: Well, speaking speaking personally here, No, and anyone who thinks 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: that is welcome to go on to the Q and 164 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: a YouTube page. Look at my most recent interviews with 165 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: to Party Mahdi. My several most recent interviews with to 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: Party Mardi going back several years, in which case, every 167 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: single time I've interviewed these party leaders challenge them about 168 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: some of the language they choose to use. You know, 169 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: I think the language is really ugly. I think the 170 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: language today is suggesting that Karen Chaw doesn't understand the 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: essence of being Mahdi wasn't as insulting as some of 172 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: the other really deeply personal things that to Party Mahdi 173 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: MPs have said to the minister over here. Is that 174 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: doesn't make it okay. I'm not suggesting that it's okay 175 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: for a moment, but I think it's a very very 176 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: deliberate tactic. It plays very well with to Party Maldi's supporters, 177 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: and actually sometimes I wonder if maybe a better response 178 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: from from the you know, from those people who are 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: most concerned about this language is actually not to give 180 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: it the attention that it is so clearly designed to attract, 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: because they know exactly what they're doing when they're using 182 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: this kind of language. 183 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: It's hard, though, isn't it, because then you've got you know, 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: remember the Tiger Waitsi campaign that said give nothing to racism, 185 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: and you know, call it out every time. So it's like, well, 186 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: what do you just ignore it every time? Somebody doesn't 187 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: you know? 188 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, I mean I just I just I 189 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: don't know what the answer is necessarily but I do 190 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: think that to party MARIORI clearly like this is by 191 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 4: design that the language that they choose to use from 192 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: time to time, whether you like it or not, it's 193 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: it's very much by design. They know how to they 194 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: know how to get that, you know, get their party 195 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: in the media. They know pat issues in the media. Well, 196 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: they know they know how to fire people up right, 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: and you know, yeah, I think it's perfectly legitimate from 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 4: their perspective to be attacking Karen Chaw's policies. I think 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: it's perfectly legitimate to be attacking Karen Chaw as a minister. 200 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: And indeed you wouldn't expect anything less from an opposition party. 201 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: I do think when it comes to decorum in that forum, 202 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: we could actually expect pretty high higher standards of language 203 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: around attacking people at a personal level. 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, well what I find on Brian, what 205 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: I find unacceptable about it is that they are setting 206 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: themselves up as some sort of an arbiter and seeing, 207 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: we'll determine whether you're mari enough or whether you fit 208 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: the mold. I mean, she's been attacked before, is not 209 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: being Mari enough and all sorts of things like that. 210 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: That is just disgusting. That is absolutely disgraceful. Go for 211 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: the policies and say we don't accept your policy because 212 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: it's causing this much harm, and will do so. I 213 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: think that's a legitimate role for an opposition to do. 214 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: And while I was in Parliament, I had heaps and 215 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: heaps of attacks on policies that I put in place 216 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: and was fine with it. But once you get into 217 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: that personal stuff for no reason. I mean, Karen Sure, 218 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: I think's a genuine decent lady who deserves a bit 219 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: more respect than that sort of nonsense. 220 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough to Marris Williamson, Organ Council, I thank 221 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: you for being on the Huddle tonight. And Jack tam 222 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: Q and a host and host of Saturday mornings here 223 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: on News Talk said B. 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 225 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: News Talk said Be from four pm weekdays, or follow 226 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.