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Speaker 1: Boy the inter Islander. It's not a cruise at the moment,

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Speaker 1: and fortunately for Kiwi Rail, last night's leaks went on

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Speaker 1: board the boat. They were off it. They arrived in

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Speaker 1: document form. It's a safety bulletin which was distributed to

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Speaker 1: masters on the fifth just so that they're in the loops,

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Speaker 1: that they know what's happening with their boats. And it

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Speaker 1: reveals a multitude of reasons as to why the ferry

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Speaker 1: ran aground three weeks ago. One of the key concerns

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Speaker 1: surrounds an auto pilot button. This is a button you

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Speaker 1: have to press for five seconds to activate, so very

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Speaker 1: hard to do accidentally, one would have thought. Now. New

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Speaker 1: Zealand First First highlighted a lot of these concerns in

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Speaker 1: a social media post on Tuesday, and Leader of New

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Speaker 1: Zealand First and also acting Prime Minister at the moment,

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Speaker 1: Wisin Peter's joins me, Hello, Winston, good morning. How did

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Speaker 1: your people become aware of the situation with the aditary

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Speaker 1: so that you could post about it?

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Speaker 2: Ah, Well, they got information from people who would know,

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Speaker 2: and it was not unusual to get that information because

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Speaker 2: this has happened countless times in the past with respect

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Speaker 2: to the fairies and all we've had over the years,

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Speaker 2: going back, you know, a long time in nine eighty

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Speaker 2: six is the same regime of denial, and we're having

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Speaker 2: an inquiry. We're going to find out. And the fact

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Speaker 2: is it was so down obvious that the question was

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Speaker 2: what on earth was it doing on auto pilot in

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Speaker 2: the first place.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, if we go back to Tuesday, though, you also

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Speaker 1: or your post on behalf of your party also added

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Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, which upset all the crew, and

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Speaker 1: they've employed lawyers. Can you stand by those claims about

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Speaker 1: the absenteeism for the coffee?

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Speaker 2: Well, can I ask you this question? How would have

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Speaker 2: been on order parlot at the time and how come

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Speaker 2: we had this problem? You see, it's not complex. This

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Speaker 2: is a simple one two three, and we're not getting

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Speaker 2: any answers. And this is a tax power and operation.

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Speaker 2: And so the oginal first party put out saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: what has going on? Did somebody go for a cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee? Or what happened? Because it should never have

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Speaker 2: been on all to part in the first place. And

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Speaker 2: now we're getting all sorts of explanations trying and explain

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Speaker 2: the unimaginable process which should never happen in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely agreed. However, the maritime lawyer did say that

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Speaker 1: the comments at the time on the Tuesday were unhelpful

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Speaker 1: and not saying.

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Speaker 2: The maritime The maritime lawyer can say what he likes.

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Speaker 2: He's been paid to say that with the greatest effect

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Speaker 2: to him. Get to the facts before you open your mouth.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking for, and that's the usual first

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Speaker 2: is asking for.

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Speaker 1: But there's a standard procedure that you wait for the

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Speaker 1: official investigation.

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Speaker 2: No, no, Look, Transpower was a case up north for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten a thousand homes lost power, and

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Speaker 2: Mayor Brown at the time here in Auckland said, look,

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Speaker 2: they did not bolt the thing down. They're taking the

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Speaker 2: plates off. It was steering their office anything. It was

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Speaker 2: a denial first of all. Then four hours later there

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Speaker 2: was an admission, why do we have to go through

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Speaker 2: this process when the taxpayer's interests are concerned and so

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Speaker 2: many people only people have been put out of the

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Speaker 2: you know, the their movement has been seriously affected. We've

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Speaker 2: not had a ferry for a long time. It's selling today,

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Speaker 2: I noticed, But here we've had all this delay when

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Speaker 2: the answer should be action this day and give us

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Speaker 2: the answer this day if you know what the answer is.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't know what the answer is, didn't they?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So this makes Kii Rail look bad. But

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Speaker 1: we also have the the ongoing issue of the replacement

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Speaker 1: of the theories and the cancelation of the Korean order

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Speaker 1: and then the new plan that we're waiting for. So

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Speaker 1: what do you say has to happen next for Kiwi

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Speaker 1: well and the inter Islander.

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Speaker 2: Well. The Furiy Rail was asked to try and find

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Speaker 2: two replacements, and I was the head of the Qurie

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Speaker 2: Wraiale as a minister. They were asked to have between

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen twenty twenty, and they went out there and

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Speaker 2: instead of getting two replacements at four on a million

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Speaker 2: dollar max, they went out with a three point two

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Speaker 2: billion follow listen to things to buy, of which only

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Speaker 2: one fifth or twenty percent was the fairies. Do you

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Speaker 2: see what I mean? What's going on here where it's

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Speaker 2: just being led up by the nose here? And that

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Speaker 2: happened on the thirtieth of June twenty twenty one, six

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Speaker 2: months after I've gone So mister Hipkins to stop out

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Speaker 2: going out there and lying about my responsibility. It's not true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Can I just ask you a quick question. Northport

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Speaker 1: has been denied a permission to expand because apparently they

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Speaker 1: were reclaiming just too much land eleven point seven Hectas.

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Speaker 1: You are a representative of the North here in the Parliament,

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Speaker 1: the party that you're part of, in the government that

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Speaker 1: you're part of in a coalition agreement once economic development,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the North, and you want to fast track things,

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Speaker 1: are you going to are you going to get involved

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Speaker 1: with this application by Northport for an expansion.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've been arguing for Northport for years, not because

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Speaker 2: I'm from up North. I was the MP for total

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Speaker 2: On and the most successful port for all those years.

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Speaker 2: I was there for a quarter of a century in

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Speaker 2: total on it. But here's the point. It's the only

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Speaker 2: one with the future capacity to take the corner ships

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Speaker 2: that are coming here. And I thought the decision sadly

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Speaker 2: was a disaster and the Wolds back Northern Minute has

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Speaker 2: a chance to be a major part of this company's infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: So when the fast track comes in, will you can

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Speaker 1: you can you stick it into the fast track?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I can't answer those questions. You know that that

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Speaker 2: has to be decided by the fast tracked ministers, but

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Speaker 2: also the panels that come after the fast tracking ministers

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Speaker 2: to decide independently of the government what is right and

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Speaker 2: what's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much. Winster Peters is young first

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Speaker 1: leader and this is News Talks V and I call

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Speaker 1: one Winston Peters to advocate at least for the fast tracking,

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Speaker 1: to advocate for Northport. I'm sorry, I just think it's

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Speaker 1: a must do it, must do. For more from the

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