1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Now David Seymour is blaming striking teachers for a drop 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: in school attendance. He reckons attendance was on track to 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: be one percent higher than last year, but because of 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the strikes, it's now down one percent on last year. Now, 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Kathy Chambers, are charmers right? Rather is the principle of 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Green Meadows Intermediate and the head of manyere were attendance 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: service and with us Now Hi, Kathy, hi there, how 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: are you? I'm very well? Thank you? 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: As David right, Well, I don't want to challenge whether 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: he's right or wrong, but what I would say is 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: that typically the last week of the term, attendance is 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: historically the patent drops. But also I think we need 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: to remember that parents are the ones who are legally 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: responsible for their child's attendance. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: And this sounds like he's right, doesn't it. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: No, what I was actually going to say was blaming it. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: I'm a teacher's participating in a lawful strike is a 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: bit disingenuous because, in my opinion, first off, attendance isn't 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: recorded on those days, so the days themselves would have 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: had no impact on attendance. And the second thing is 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: that if a parent lets their childs stay home for 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: other days. You know, that's a parent parental choice. Not right, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: but it's a little bit tricky blaming that on teaching. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: But I so can I take from what you've said 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: that given that we don't count a strike day as 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: an attendance a lack of attendance, we would though, so 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: we wouldn't count that Thursday, but we would count the 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Friday between the strike and labor weekend, and that Friday, 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: whole bunch of kids didn't turn up. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: And that Friday, that that day historically, I can speak 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: in our area, I can speak for my school. Historically, 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: that last day before the long weekend, we get a 33 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: lot of students not turning up to school. Okay, So 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: I just think it's a little bit disingenuous what I 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: do know, And I'm remember it's only secondary schools that 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: were on strike at that time. There were no primary 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: schools on strike in the last week of term. So 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: the data really only reflect that he's referring to is 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: only relevant to the secondary school secondary schools. Primary schools 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: were at school. And the other thing, you know this 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: he has acknowledged the high levels of illness that happened 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: in term three and that would have had a significant 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: impact on data as well. 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Kathy, Look, it's good to talk to you. I really 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. There's Kathy Charmers, who is the Green 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Meadows Intermediate School lead principle of the Manyeare Attendance Service 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: as well. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: live to news talks the'd be from four pm weekdays, 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.