Speaker 1: This is an iHeart Radio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2: If you're in the bush for two and a half
Speaker 2: weeks the West Coast or something, you're starving and.
Speaker 3: You called a Kiwi, would you eat it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Of course I would.
Speaker 4: I'd actually hunt it if I was if I was
Speaker 4: lost in the bush and starving. But if you hit
Speaker 4: one with your car, sure you're allowed to buddy.
Speaker 3: And you're not if you're starving.
Speaker 4: No, no, But what if you hit a deer?
Speaker 2: You know, if you're starving, probably wouldn't be driving you.
Speaker 3: Because if you're driving, you could just go to a
Speaker 3: gas station and get some snack of chank through drive through.
Speaker 4: But if you're very good to eat, can we start?
Speaker 3: Can we start the show? I know we can?
Speaker 4: Allowed to eat a swampin.
Speaker 3: No, let's roll the titles right. Welcome to the T
Speaker 3: A B Sports Cafe Nights. One of Tonight's special guests,
Speaker 3: Zim Zimbrook.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited time we're all here to talk to.
Speaker 3: Isn't he He's trying to work out he doesn't have
Speaker 3: Wi Fi, so so.
Speaker 4: He said, let's just get hold on Great, he said, yep,
Speaker 4: I'd love to come on the show. Rack yep, but
Speaker 4: I'll have to use dial up or my data plan.
Speaker 3: No, he's just called me on his phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't I use the five G because I'm
Speaker 4: not there.
Speaker 1: You've tried hard enough.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a you don't need.
Speaker 3: The reason. The reason I wanted to talk to him
Speaker 3: was I thought it would be important to talk to
Speaker 3: someone that watched The All Blacks because there was a
Speaker 3: massive game All Blacks South Africa.
Speaker 4: Is he getting to do the show? Isn't he?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought he was because otherwise he would have paid
Speaker 4: his bloody data pain and he'd have been able to use.
Speaker 3: Five Yeah, I'm paying him to be on this show,
Speaker 3: even though he's not on it. But I'm not paying you.
Speaker 2: It's just interesting that we did about ten shows. I
Speaker 2: think that Mark and I is we did our.
Speaker 4: Own adah, it was all on five G.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, can I.
Speaker 4: Just even just the the phone bill? If you could
Speaker 4: cover that, it'd be kind of decent.
Speaker 3: Can I ask? Did anyone watch The All Blacks? Yeah? Yeah? Interesting? Interesting,
Speaker 3: very very interesting.
Speaker 4: I thought that bloody good Bye. I thought they were
Speaker 4: very good.
Speaker 2: My big thing I would interesting to get your opinion on.
Speaker 3: This, mate, is.
Speaker 2: Back in the day would well we're going from a
Speaker 2: place of knowledge. But the you know, back in the day,
Speaker 2: last ten to fifteen minutes, all Blacks would always put
Speaker 2: points on at least still keep scoring. Yeah, fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty minute we go backwards big time, all right. And
Speaker 2: the thing is now, obviously they bring a lot of
Speaker 2: subs second half, sixty minutes. Whatever the problem there is,
Speaker 2: they'll bring you too many on the same time.
Speaker 3: Whether you think they're not even that.
Speaker 4: Tired, well, I think that in the in the you know,
Speaker 4: in the yester year, the game was quicker, that it
Speaker 4: was faster paced. It seemed like it flowed more scrums
Speaker 4: to be set and go down, and you'd be running
Speaker 4: the ball backward and forward, you know, for a long
Speaker 4: period of time. I know, it's pretty intense what's happening now,
Speaker 4: but you had the ability through fitness to actually come
Speaker 4: through at the end of the game. Yeah, But now
Speaker 4: now they're technically slowing it down, bringing on fresh people's
Speaker 4: it stops starting.
Speaker 2: Players aren't that tired now because the stop starts, so
Speaker 2: they don't need to be replaced. If you're not that tired,
Speaker 2: why why take four off? If you if you replace
Speaker 2: your first five at the same time, right as your
Speaker 2: half back, and it's like putting.
Speaker 4: On the intensity of it. These days, it's pretty full.
Speaker 2: Of leaves, the cohesion.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it overnight, which I feel really bad about,
Speaker 1: but I did watch the highlights and it was a
Speaker 1: really good way to watch rugby.
Speaker 4: It was really exciting, yeah, said a really.
Speaker 1: Terrible thing to admit, Like the game in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Was really good watching the real game. That's cause basically
Speaker 4: you get the.
Speaker 3: Whole No, there was nothing. I got up at three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, you know, make sure I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the cheese on toast. I got up a ten ten two,
Speaker 3: so make sure I saw the anthem and the hacker
Speaker 3: and then and then fell asleep and then got back up,
Speaker 3: woke up again. Just the adrenaline and the experience of
Speaker 3: getting up in the middle of night, and.
Speaker 1: So with the haka was true that it was just
Speaker 1: the noise, like.
Speaker 3: I Ellis Park, like, you've got to love them. They're
Speaker 3: so passionate that South Afrian's if you noticed in the
Speaker 3: crowd eighty percent and when wearing Springbolt jerseys, they're so connected,
Speaker 3: they're so passionate. I mean you remember the wiel Cup final,
Speaker 3: our nuts and crazy. It's just the way Ellis Parker is.
Speaker 3: It's just total chaos, like the music's playing at the
Speaker 3: wrong times. Planes are flying over, the fireworks are going off.
Speaker 3: I don't know whoever's running the over. It's just insane.
Speaker 4: I hear Neil diamond line coming through. You know.
Speaker 3: So because we were planning any on, the show's not going. Well,
Speaker 3: he might be, but all the stories pretty much about Zinny.
Speaker 3: So this is when z an he kicked your ass
Speaker 3: in parallel parking. So Alice once again coming back in
Speaker 3: this time?
Speaker 5: Well you see.
Speaker 3: Okay, once again Mark Alice would the more perpendicular parallel parking.
Speaker 6: Ah, still on the curve, what's the ticket?
Speaker 3: Immediate pulling me off?
Speaker 5: It's disgusting. What's before and it's your own car. You
Speaker 5: can actually sleep on that game.
Speaker 7: Well, what's from the Tibet I've got three feet.
Speaker 3: And you had five.
Speaker 8: Look at that.
Speaker 5: Three feet as well.
Speaker 4: It's amazing trust to even argue this.
Speaker 5: Cheer watch out.
Speaker 6: That's three it is Please, that's about the woods of
Speaker 6: the match thing. There's some people dry matter you can't pack.
Speaker 3: Look, the show's pulling the partner's only just started. But
Speaker 3: we're good to have a guest that's got wi fi
Speaker 3: kaik france U see legend.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the board, mate, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: What do you like at parallel parking?
Speaker 5: Oh? Probably better than definitely.
Speaker 4: There's a challenge.
Speaker 1: What you.
Speaker 4: Haven't I haven't seen is actually the footage of what
Speaker 4: just occurred there. You've just heard wreck mumbling away in
Speaker 4: the background.
Speaker 3: So you just come straight off from Perth. We had
Speaker 3: a magnificent fight. You know, you must have been wrapped
Speaker 3: with that victory.
Speaker 5: Yea hundred percent.
Speaker 9: I was away from a sport for about a year,
Speaker 9: so nice way to come back, make a statement, get
Speaker 9: the bonus and get the wind in front of you know,
Speaker 9: not my country, but close close to the country, and
Speaker 9: a lot of keywis in Perth. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 9: satisfying to remind everyone you know, I'm one of the
Speaker 9: best guys.
Speaker 4: And tell me. One thing that is consistent across all
Speaker 4: combat sports, it seems, is that the people who rise
Speaker 4: to the top, have you done it pretty tough in
Speaker 4: their childhood and in the youth, there's something that is
Speaker 4: given them a real grit and a real motivation. And
Speaker 4: you know, I mean once they make it in one,
Speaker 4: they've Connor McGregor it, you know, they sort of lose
Speaker 4: that and that's when they fall off the top of
Speaker 4: the hill. Have you have you had a gritty upbringing?
Speaker 4: I don't know it, sorry, so I just sort of know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's yeah, that's a typical you know, fightest background,
Speaker 9: fighter story, you know, rags the riches, you know, kind
Speaker 9: of struggled and then for adversity built character and then yeah,
Speaker 9: rise is the top. My story is a bit different.
Speaker 9: All my family's gone to university. My brother and my
Speaker 9: dad are both lawyers. Soccer was my main sport growing up.
Speaker 9: I went to Mags and I was in the football Academy.
Speaker 9: So at a young age, you know, that was my
Speaker 9: dream to be in All White. But I guess I
Speaker 9: learned early on that it's a tough sport to make
Speaker 9: it At soccer, there's so many people that play and
Speaker 9: I was good, but I wasn't top tier. So I
Speaker 9: wanted to kind of play a sport, not a team sport.
Speaker 9: I wanted to play a sport where it's all on me,
Speaker 9: and that's what I found fighting the ultimate, the ultimate challenge.
Speaker 2: But that's sport, wasn't it your one? I mean not
Speaker 2: just has them competitively, but literally, you know, in the moment,
Speaker 2: you've got to really put yourself out there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just about being present and facing affairs and
Speaker 9: walking towards courage and that self doubt, that negative talk
Speaker 9: or the head noise blocking it out. So I kind
Speaker 9: of fell into the sport. I used to get bullied
Speaker 9: a lot in high school for my size, I guess,
Speaker 9: being the shortest, the smallest kid in the class, and
Speaker 9: people saw that as a target. And yeah, I used
Speaker 9: to get bullied. I'm so bad I stopped going to
Speaker 9: school for a while.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, so is that the motivator? Is that
Speaker 4: where it comes from? Because that's an extraordinary story to
Speaker 4: be from, you know, a privileged background and rise to
Speaker 4: the top and fighting you're certainly you know, zigging when
Speaker 4: everyone else is egging, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely I had. I had a chip on my shoulder,
Speaker 9: not to prove to anyone else, but to prove to myself.
Speaker 9: I very competitive, competitive. I'm youngest of five so older siblings.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: I always wanted to, you know, like shine in my family,
Speaker 9: and fighting was my vehicle. But yeah, I guess at
Speaker 9: a young age, I learned that this could be my
Speaker 9: path and I just kind of ran off it. You know,
Speaker 9: think about fighting as you're fighting someone similar to your size.
Speaker 9: So I knew I was going to make it a
Speaker 9: rugby that was never my sport. All my older brothers.
Speaker 5: Played rugby league and I kind of stayed in my lane.
Speaker 9: But yeah, definitely had something to prove and yeah, look
Speaker 9: where we are, Look where we are now.
Speaker 1: As a student, is it something that was that you
Speaker 1: started at school or do you to go to a
Speaker 1: club outside of school to start your fighting?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I started at this gym called Strike Force.
Speaker 9: I started at ten years old. So I walked into
Speaker 9: my first gym with a friend, just doing kids classes.
Speaker 9: We pretty much just played bull rush and I went
Speaker 9: there for the game. So it was a it was
Speaker 9: called to, you know, see what we're doing and like
Speaker 9: mostly just grappling jiu jitsu on the ground. I guess
Speaker 9: holding people down. That was more the stuff we were
Speaker 9: doing back then when I was so young.
Speaker 5: And then when I.
Speaker 9: Got bullied, that's when I walked back into the gym
Speaker 9: and my parents wanted to I guess, and saw more
Speaker 9: confidence into myself and yeah, just to be able to
Speaker 9: walk into a room and hold yourself, to hold your
Speaker 9: head up high kind of thing. And like I said before,
Speaker 9: I wasn't doing it for anyone else. I just wanted
Speaker 9: to test myself and that's where I was finding, I guess,
Speaker 9: turning my something negative into something positive.
Speaker 5: So had my first fight in high school.
Speaker 3: If you obviously by getting that confidence, have you had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to resolve that with the guys that bullied
Speaker 3: you or the people that bullied you, you that sort
Speaker 3: of hit a quiet chat to them and.
Speaker 4: See that's the Italian then you coming out, isn't it what?
Speaker 3: I'm just interested. Have you had the chance to catch
Speaker 3: up with them? I'm saying, how's it going?
Speaker 9: I have bumped into one of them actually a few
Speaker 9: like two years ago. He came up to me. I
Speaker 9: didn't recognize him and put on a bit of weight
Speaker 9: and he's he's a trade and he looked at me
Speaker 9: and say, hey Kai. I was like, hey, bro, do
Speaker 9: I know you? And he's like, yeah, it's me. I
Speaker 9: won't say his name, it was me from high school.
Speaker 5: And then it brought up so many memories. I was like, bro,
Speaker 5: you know how much.
Speaker 9: Trauma he caused me. But hey, I'm not a person
Speaker 9: to hold onto things.
Speaker 5: I let it go. I don't. I don't forget, but
Speaker 5: I don't I forgive.
Speaker 3: Chat to you to work out how to do that,
Speaker 3: because I haven't managed to do that yet.
Speaker 4: Know he's got an anger management problem once and can
Speaker 4: I tell that?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 4: What the one where the guy was melting off and
Speaker 4: he was he's an American guy in a bar and
Speaker 4: he was just yeppy like Americans can be. And ye
Speaker 4: took it and took offense at the fact that this
Speaker 4: guy's yeah, hey guys, you know, look at me. So
Speaker 4: he went up and see the guy just tied it
Speaker 4: down a bit mate, and he said push off, and
Speaker 4: so ricks not of them, and then we'd beat a
Speaker 4: hasty retreat. And even if it's not even if somebody
Speaker 4: just pisses you off, he used to get fire. What
Speaker 4: about the poor Chinese man, the bloody harbormer.
Speaker 3: I didn't throw him off the wharf and he was Japanese.
Speaker 1: Much how much damage can you do to the opposition
Speaker 1: when you're what can what can take place? And I'm
Speaker 1: new to the sport again. Before the fight gets stopped
Speaker 1: what what can, what can, what's legal and what's illegal.
Speaker 9: So there's a few ways to win, so by a
Speaker 9: knockout or tiko technical knockout. So that's when the rest
Speaker 9: steps and he's told the guy to defend himself and
Speaker 9: he's not defending himself safely and he's kind of looking
Speaker 9: for a way out. There's when the riffles step in
Speaker 9: or if he's just he's knocked out. And then there's
Speaker 9: a submission. So if you get someone in a I guess,
Speaker 9: a checkmate position where they have no choice but to tap,
Speaker 9: I guess, and tapping means that you've you want to
Speaker 9: the rest to jump in or if it's a choke,
Speaker 9: it will go until either you're tapping or you're just
Speaker 9: going to go to sleep, and then the other ways
Speaker 9: by decision.
Speaker 3: So by points, I'd quite like you to try the
Speaker 3: submission one on Mark sometime. Would that be possible?
Speaker 4: You have to catch me. I can still go right.
Speaker 3: You'll have to excuse us because some of these items
Speaker 3: might not really We've got some video items on the
Speaker 3: show also for the podcast, and they don't really work
Speaker 3: because the sin Zen's not on the show. But I
Speaker 3: can't really say do you remember the juice rooms that
Speaker 3: twicken them in nineteen ninety eight, that wouldn't really be appropriate.
Speaker 3: But seeing you don't remember them, this is what it
Speaker 3: looked like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice to see the white supremist between two
Speaker 4: brown boys there, you know, Goldie. So he looked like
Speaker 4: something out of Hit the Youth, didn't he with them?
Speaker 3: I told you you can't say that.
Speaker 4: He like, we've called him that nickname for a long
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 3: You have, Yeah, so that was it doesn't really work
Speaker 3: with any not on the show.
Speaker 4: I remember you remember back in the earlier nineties when
Speaker 4: they had big square bards where you had the literally
Speaker 4: half the half the team and a bath. Yeah, those
Speaker 4: were quite that's quite weird. That was weird?
Speaker 5: Was that was that just?
Speaker 3: That's that's how they didn't have That's how you sort
Speaker 3: of just after the game, how you washed off. No, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were hot barths, the hot bars, and you you
Speaker 3: could be in them by yourself if you wanted to be,
Speaker 3: or you could share them with two other people if
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 1: That normal showers Are you saying that's how people they
Speaker 1: had showers?
Speaker 4: That's reck story. I don't know. I was back in
Speaker 4: the day when they had the big square bath, you know,
Speaker 4: which was like a massive in bath.
Speaker 3: Do you have showers in UFC guy and the locker room?
Speaker 3: Send us bath?
Speaker 4: What do you I need to get the question because
Speaker 4: this is an important man to speak to. What is
Speaker 4: what to your success? What does it smell like? Is
Speaker 4: it you know, the number one championship belt, the title?
Speaker 4: And when do you because if you're you're approaching this
Speaker 4: differently than the vast majority, when do you pull out?
Speaker 4: Because I suspect you're not going to wait until you
Speaker 4: fall off the wave. You're going to jump off at
Speaker 4: some stage if you achieve all the things you need
Speaker 4: to Good question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely good question. It's a good question. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 5: deep question.
Speaker 3: Actually time for the answer.
Speaker 4: No, no, sorry to keep going.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a life after fighting, you know. I know
Speaker 9: that there's a shelf life of how long I could
Speaker 9: do this. I've been fighting professionally since I was seventeen,
Speaker 9: so I turned thirty one this year, so a lot
Speaker 9: of ring time, a lot of experience. You're luckily I
Speaker 9: had to take it too much damage. But also I'm
Speaker 9: here to fight the best guys, like I know I
Speaker 9: can be a champion. And I've got teammates in my
Speaker 9: gym constantly reminding me that it's possible. You know, Israel Adasagna,
Speaker 9: Alex Wolkonowski, guys that have you know, done it, who
Speaker 9: have climbed the mountain and have defended and stayed on
Speaker 9: top for a long time. So I know that I can,
Speaker 9: I guess, be on that same path.
Speaker 4: You know, really impressed by And I know that there's
Speaker 4: a show out about your gym and seems that the
Speaker 4: champions behind it must be one hell of a leader,
Speaker 4: because all you guys are really humble, really eloquent, really
Speaker 4: well spoken, really considered, really smart and intelligent. It appears,
Speaker 4: you know, which I think would be a rarity in
Speaker 4: the fight world generalizing, but you know, there wouldn't be
Speaker 4: many gyms where you get assuade of guys like these
Speaker 4: guys who are coming out representing us so well.
Speaker 3: Is that because of the culture of the city boxing.
Speaker 3: Is that because of the people that you're around, oh
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: You know, Eugene Bem and our head coach, He's created
Speaker 9: this environment where you thrive and you have your priorities
Speaker 9: are in check, and if you're not here to get better,
Speaker 9: that you're in the wrong place, like you're constantly trying
Speaker 9: to upscale and improve, and it's like a massive full circle.
Speaker 9: I think early two thousands there was a massive wave
Speaker 9: of combat sports coming out of New Zealand, you know,
Speaker 9: with K one booming, all the heavyweight boxes doing really well,
Speaker 9: and now it's full circle for the UFC fighters in
Speaker 9: New Zealand. So yeah, it's amazing to see so many people.
Speaker 9: And you know how father Sport has come to New
Speaker 9: Zealand because is pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: Speaking of tough guys and great fighters, the k One
Speaker 4: Jason Sutty, this is a good story. I'm driving around
Speaker 4: Green Lane and I cut him off and he honks
Speaker 4: a horn, and so I just flick the bird and
Speaker 4: just quiver it out the back window. And then I
Speaker 4: get stuck down going onto Green Lane with all the
Speaker 4: cars lined up, and I look out the window. I
Speaker 4: see this huge, big feller tearing down and I've just
Speaker 4: my arm in the cast and so I can't get
Speaker 4: to lock the door quick enough and he just rips
Speaker 4: the door open and he goes.
Speaker 5: Thank God for that.
Speaker 4: I just shut my eyes. I thought, oh, this is
Speaker 4: going to go black really quick. And he remembered coming
Speaker 4: on the show and then you phoned up a while
Speaker 4: He said, I'll tell you what. Your mate just about
Speaker 4: got fucking clocked, so you'd be careful with her. You
Speaker 4: give the bird to around around or from these days
Speaker 4: or anywhere, don't do it. If you're going on to
Speaker 4: an arm rent with there's lots of cash, just don't
Speaker 4: do it. And I always locked your doors.
Speaker 5: How did you break your eyes?
Speaker 4: I had a a somemb Yeah, it's a silly story
Speaker 4: that as well. Some came off after I lost again
Speaker 4: Pemba and I punched the whole of the wall and
Speaker 4: I hit the joist and it twisted my thumb.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but it's me with the anger issues.
Speaker 4: No, it was more to Las.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you first got called into the UFC. Do
Speaker 3: you remember that moment? It was all over social media
Speaker 3: where sitting down and watching the video and down to
Speaker 3: White says you're a UFC fighter, you know, to talk
Speaker 3: us through that moment.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I guess they'll lead up to that. For
Speaker 9: ten years in a row, I was riding, you know,
Speaker 9: b UFC fighter.
Speaker 5: That was my dream.
Speaker 9: So twenty eighteen, i'd just done The Ultimate Fighter season
Speaker 9: twenty four. I didn't get picked up to the UFC
Speaker 9: after that show. I was only knockout on that show,
Speaker 9: so I thought that was enough. And then I came
Speaker 9: back to New Zealand and I turned up to City
Speaker 9: Kickboxing and eugenail coach. He just said turn up and
Speaker 9: the rest will take care of itself. So two years later,
Speaker 9: I was on a five fight win streak, just waiting
Speaker 9: for that call, waiting for Dana to give me a shot.
Speaker 5: I thought it was my time, and I was like,
Speaker 5: come on, like I'm money getting older now.
Speaker 9: I thought this was going to happen, and then Yeah,
Speaker 9: Eugene surprised me and saying we're doing a thank you
Speaker 9: video for everyone that's been helping off the fight camps
Speaker 9: because some of the boys had just fought in the UFC.
Speaker 9: So I walked into the gym thinking it's just a
Speaker 9: video for just to say thank you, and then Dana
Speaker 9: pops up and then he says my name. He says, hey, Kai,
Speaker 9: welcome to the UFC, brother, and yeah didn't really register
Speaker 9: until Eugene actually hugged me and he said you're in bro.
Speaker 5: All that hard work is all paid off.
Speaker 9: And the waterworks started, you know, because I'd work so
Speaker 9: hard for this and to be so close for so
Speaker 9: many times but not get get it, and then finally, yeah,
Speaker 9: it was. It all happened for the right reasons in
Speaker 9: the right time. You know, I wasn't ready when I
Speaker 9: was a bit younger, and in the UFC, you're only
Speaker 9: going to fight the best guys in the world. This
Speaker 9: is there's no time to have a warm up fight
Speaker 9: or a tune up fight. It's you're in the deep end.
Speaker 9: So I was more than ready for it. Twenty eighteen,
Speaker 9: uc Adelaide Mark Hunt's last fight in the UFC. My
Speaker 9: debut ended up winning five the night, so I've got
Speaker 9: a fifty K bonus and yeah, a big one to
Speaker 9: start off my UFC career.
Speaker 4: It seems like said he kicked boxing as a team,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it's an individual sport, but you know,
Speaker 4: if there was a team award at the Hellbergs, you know,
Speaker 4: I'd been nominating these guys because they obviously are so tight.
Speaker 1: The women just as competitive as the men. Is it
Speaker 1: the same, same, same.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent?
Speaker 9: The girls then not normal, They're not normal at all.
Speaker 9: They're the regulators any like new guys that I guess
Speaker 9: of trying to make it in the sport. You just
Speaker 9: get the girls to get in the ring with them
Speaker 9: and they'll let you know if you're ready or not.
Speaker 9: Because these girls are normal, they do.
Speaker 4: A voice of sanity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, it's a team sport.
Speaker 9: Like the thing about fighting is you're in there alone,
Speaker 9: but you need a team to prepare you, to push
Speaker 9: you past your limits. And spiring is very I guess
Speaker 9: it is hard, but there is a time and place
Speaker 9: for it, and it's and it's controlled, so you know,
Speaker 9: we get in different looks. That's something that we're really
Speaker 9: good at and our coaches are the best that is
Speaker 9: breaking down fight footage. So I don't personally watch my opponents.
Speaker 9: I just leave it to my coaches. They break it
Speaker 9: down the habits or tendencies that your opponent does, and
Speaker 9: then we can get a guy that can simulate that
Speaker 9: or give me that lock inspiring and then you know,
Speaker 9: for the for the next twelve weeks building up to
Speaker 9: a fight, we're really fine tuned. Some think that will
Speaker 9: be happening in the fight. So that last fight against
Speaker 9: Steve ver Sick, everyone thought I just have the right hand.
Speaker 9: You know, I've got twelve or thirteen first round knockouts,
Speaker 9: and the right hand usually lands, but this time was
Speaker 9: the left hand. So something we worked on a lot
Speaker 9: is just to be set everything up. You know, it's
Speaker 9: a lot. It's a lot more detailed in what people
Speaker 9: usually are looking for. They just say, oh, he's just
Speaker 9: you know, setting up his right hand.
Speaker 4: But you don't watch any of your opponent's actual fighting.
Speaker 9: Not really, No, I'll watch it if it's on. It's
Speaker 9: going to be a I think it throws you off.
Speaker 9: It throws you off if your opponent changes.
Speaker 5: Think about me.
Speaker 9: I just focus on what I can control, and that's
Speaker 9: just myself. It's that's fighting for me, me against myself,
Speaker 9: and what helps me kind of makes sense of all
Speaker 9: of that is tapping into my culture, tapping into that
Speaker 9: warrior version of myself, you know, me being a family man,
Speaker 9: you know, husband and brother or father. I leave that
Speaker 9: to the side and when I step in there, I'm
Speaker 9: just that warrior version of myself.
Speaker 4: Well, the palms are doing poked out muskets that much.
Speaker 4: We do know when we.
Speaker 3: Talk about team culture and stuff, you know how important
Speaker 3: it is to be that sense of belonging, that sense
Speaker 3: of being in the team maka. You had that with
Speaker 3: the Otago boys. Yeah, you know in the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4: Don't say that.
Speaker 3: Okay, well had that with the Otago rugby team. And
Speaker 3: you've just come back from a because this is what
Speaker 3: you'll be doing in about thirty years time. It's having reunions.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, thirty years ago, forty years thirty years mate?
Speaker 3: Was it thirty years ago? Otago beat the spring Box?
Speaker 3: Tell us about the reunion.
Speaker 4: Dave later organized that we went down to Otago h
Speaker 4: Dunedin to have a few beers and celebrate the winning
Speaker 4: of the spring Bok head. So we had the Springbock
Speaker 4: Kid with us and we went to a local bar
Speaker 4: and there about ten of us and then some for
Speaker 4: some reason, we ended up in a mini van out
Speaker 4: of Point Port Charmers, which is basically with the Salty
Speaker 4: Sea Dogs of Dunedin live. So we ended going into
Speaker 4: a bar and they said no, sorry, mate, private function.
Speaker 4: There are only ten people in there, probably could have
Speaker 4: fitted about a hundred, so they just didn't really want
Speaker 4: anyone else in there. And then Jamie Joseph old Flyback
Speaker 4: walked in and they recognized him and so they let
Speaker 4: us in and we ended up having a wonderful night.
Speaker 4: The people who were.
Speaker 1: There fly back as a form of bullying.
Speaker 4: By any chance, he's got a harry back like back beat.
Speaker 3: Many fack.
Speaker 4: Fly back as a term of endearment. I mean, not
Speaker 4: all of us can be that Harry anyhow, the most
Speaker 4: eclectic mix of lovely port charmers, champions, men and women.
Speaker 4: And we had a wonderful time just mat her away.
Speaker 3: And that's good, good mood because Lee, you spent some
Speaker 3: time down with the Highlanders and we're going to have
Speaker 3: a lot. This was just a while ago, is it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: when you were at the job in TV. All right, okay, life.
Speaker 10: Of the roaming sports reporter it's not always an easy one.
Speaker 10: You'll learn that it's about flying hotel rooms and of
Speaker 10: course research who the Highlanders playing again this.
Speaker 5: Weekend Queensland reads, I believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think because of my own exciting sometimes birthday and
Speaker 10: rugby career, a lot of these guys find it.
Speaker 3: Easily to me than other sports carters. I can't talk
Speaker 3: to them again, Like.
Speaker 5: When interviewing the sports it's important to make them feel
Speaker 5: of ease.
Speaker 3: With the very first question.
Speaker 10: I'd like to do something nice and comfortable, make some relax.
Speaker 3: Do you like cheese?
Speaker 5: I like those ones you unrepped sandwiches. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 5: not the widges, the sort of cheese another.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, okay, I think that pretty much covers it.
Speaker 10: The way the guys are falling on the ball now,
Speaker 10: it's definitely that.
Speaker 8: One, you know, because if you see it conventionally on
Speaker 8: the side of the ball out, then they can come
Speaker 8: from as long as they're an on side position, come
Speaker 8: and get it.
Speaker 3: Get it.
Speaker 8: Even though it looks a bit rude, you can cover
Speaker 8: up for at least two or three seconds. By so
Speaker 8: I've been a time and then just pushed the ball out.
Speaker 3: They'd be on Missuslita's cat. Good morning.
Speaker 4: What would you like to pre sud?
Speaker 5: Just whatever's most expensive?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably edits out anyway.
Speaker 10: But but then you like to say hello, do or anything?
Speaker 8: Well, I've never had a chance to say how, just
Speaker 8: I just like to know how markers and and that
Speaker 8: serious eye injury.
Speaker 3: That you hear, Yeah, that's quite briotialing.
Speaker 5: The word is down here.
Speaker 8: He was obnoxious as usual and got smart to someone
Speaker 8: and they and they popped them because you know, he's
Speaker 8: a bit of a Pip squeak and he probably deserved it.
Speaker 8: And now he's not dying is here or something?
Speaker 4: When he missed a guy and I like to get down.
Speaker 10: There's any advice I could give a young up and
Speaker 10: coming sports reporter, Probably take your time, give your finger
Speaker 10: on the pulse, and be organized.
Speaker 3: Mister.
Speaker 4: I was staying at the Southern Cross Hotel. It hasn't changed.
Speaker 4: And how long ago was that? That was like a
Speaker 4: long one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was here. Here we go, you're here.
Speaker 4: It's a bit rich for a grenade face to start,
Speaker 4: bloody foreign guns and a glasshouse.
Speaker 3: Isn't it? Can you use people's proper names?
Speaker 4: Don't hat here? Grenade face, first base face? There was
Speaker 4: another one. I do love it. I do love It's
Speaker 4: all about breaking people down. It isn't the team environment.
Speaker 4: You know, you a mock everyone and then build them up.
Speaker 3: Was that your job? Oh yeah, getting away from Mark
Speaker 3: for a bit, the whole promotion of finding you know,
Speaker 3: the whole sort of you know, getting up there making
Speaker 3: these bold statements calling people out. Hey, what did you say?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 4: I just heard what I was just a flash. I
Speaker 4: was thinking, actually, think I'm going to I've got to
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there. I couldn't hold a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: Okay, fly back so good.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, that would be a good progress for the
Speaker 2: For the podcast, we're just using a monologs.
Speaker 3: Oh, now that Matt's out of the room. Back to
Speaker 3: my question, the whole promotion, the whole putting that persona on.
Speaker 3: You know, how does that sat with you?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 9: I guess you just got to be yourself, be authentic.
Speaker 9: You know, you can put on this act or this
Speaker 9: mask or the face and try to go down that way,
Speaker 9: but it's hard to keep it if it's not If
Speaker 9: it's not you, I guess people can you smell it
Speaker 9: and call it out.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'd love to see Lee's press conference.
Speaker 5: I think it could kill it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I started ten years old myself.
Speaker 2: I went to gard class.
Speaker 4: Me and the mate went along.
Speaker 2: We went to go about twelve of us ten years old.
Speaker 2: We got kicked down actually for farting kept. I suppose
Speaker 2: he was a Chinese guy. What I mean by that
Speaker 2: is it was an Asian.
Speaker 1: Kicked out for not controlling the sphinx.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, because we went to do these breathing exercises
Speaker 2: and we kept fighting. Actually, I think my mate shouted
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, because.
Speaker 3: They were doing this stuff.
Speaker 4: Well it's fair enough, you know, medicine ball.
Speaker 3: Shows going to it was sorry, that was quite a
Speaker 3: normal question.
Speaker 4: And you you you got any riddling on me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Imagine imagine you got some in the car.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Can we give a five minute break? No, because you
Speaker 4: know I'm just going to have to scull us. I've
Speaker 4: got to sedate myself.
Speaker 3: You used your culture and in your in the pre
Speaker 3: fight it was awesome.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, something I don't really plan it. I just
Speaker 9: tapping when when it's nearly go time. You know, fight
Speaker 9: with such a beast in itself. You know you're doing
Speaker 9: forty fifty interviews a day, the travel, h you know,
Speaker 9: the training obviously building up to the fight, and then
Speaker 9: your way cutting. So I don't walk around my fight. Wait,
Speaker 9: I'll fight out fifty seven. I walk around about sixty seven.
Speaker 9: So about twelve weeks I cut about ten kg's to
Speaker 9: make that.
Speaker 3: And there we're talking. Yeah, you dropped t kg.
Speaker 4: Well how do you drop about forty seven? Would be
Speaker 4: I think the question Rix asking.
Speaker 3: Before Christmas preferably.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to put it on. He just doesn't
Speaker 4: how to drop it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well the beers aren't going to help, so thore
Speaker 9: the first thing you've got to put down.
Speaker 3: That's gone. That's not the fuck.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to get a sex fect beers.
Speaker 9: Wait, cutting it takes. You just got to give yourself
Speaker 9: enough time. It's like, you know, cramming for an exam.
Speaker 9: It's never going to go well. So the same as darnings,
Speaker 9: give yourself the most time the all.
Speaker 5: What's that cheese?
Speaker 3: Cheese? Cheese? Mean it's protein?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, you can have cheese. It's just got
Speaker 5: to be what I guess, the weight of it.
Speaker 3: So did you say that you were you fight at
Speaker 3: fifty seven killers kilograms.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so thirty one years old fighting at fifty.
Speaker 4: Seven So mate, that's if you ever ridden a horse.
Speaker 5: No, but I've been told I could be a good job.
Speaker 4: Michael Walker to have been around about that.
Speaker 1: The year that you've taken off, was it for a
Speaker 1: sabbatical or was it for another reason?
Speaker 2: Was it like?
Speaker 9: No, that was I had a concussion. I had a bad,
Speaker 9: bad head knock. I was actually seeing So I worked
Speaker 9: with the I work with the Warriors. I'm in their
Speaker 9: wrestling coach. So I've been on on board for the
Speaker 9: last two years, and I went through their concussion specialists,
Speaker 9: through their resources.
Speaker 5: We be the coach. He said, well, whatever you need,
Speaker 5: we'll look after you.
Speaker 9: So pretty pretty lucky to have them to you know,
Speaker 9: tap into and James Cunningham was a guy I was saying,
Speaker 9: he's seen a lot of all blacks, seen a lot
Speaker 9: of warriors, a lot of rugby players.
Speaker 5: So I did a test.
Speaker 9: It was like three hour in an exam when I
Speaker 9: first got their head knock and then I was just inspiring.
Speaker 9: Same week my second son was born, so probably not
Speaker 9: sleeping back and forth from the hospital and then yeah,
Speaker 9: brought on all the symptoms. So I had what I
Speaker 9: felt nauseous, I felt drunk obviously, wasn't drinking, sensitive to light,
Speaker 9: really disorientated. And that was for the whole week I
Speaker 9: didn't sleep. And then yes, I saw this neurologist and
Speaker 9: I did a.
Speaker 5: Three hour exam.
Speaker 9: So I was doing puzzles, memory tests, and I was
Speaker 9: scoring I think fifty percent for my age and education
Speaker 9: and what I should be hitting.
Speaker 1: When you've had a concussion like that, is that something
Speaker 1: where they say if you get knocked again, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you go straight back and bring you've had another
Speaker 1: big fight.
Speaker 6: Is there?
Speaker 4: What happens?
Speaker 1: What's the ongoing process with a concussion?
Speaker 5: Do you just have to boy forever?
Speaker 6: Or no?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: So this this was the neurologists, I guess advice. You said,
Speaker 9: let's just take six months off contact, so just work
Speaker 9: around what you can do your drilling training, you know,
Speaker 9: cardio conditioning, but let's just not get hurt while you're recovering.
Speaker 5: And I just listened to that.
Speaker 9: So six months later we readid that test. It was
Speaker 9: like a three hour exam, and then I was heading
Speaker 9: ninety eight percent of for my age in education.
Speaker 4: So well, it's easier doing a test a second time,
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 5: Question, different questions.
Speaker 4: Pass my exams at varsity of the third year.
Speaker 3: But you go both to ways.
Speaker 2: Can't you hear about these people who get a big
Speaker 2: head knock or maybe get struck by lightning something and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like a savant, they can recite
Speaker 2: the New York phone Book or remember old Lot.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well that's it. The lady in America, this
Speaker 4: is quite funny. We've got to find some footage of this.
Speaker 4: She fell down some stairs and hit the head, and
Speaker 4: she's white as that sheet. But she speaks for the
Speaker 4: Chinese accent, which is delightfully amusing combination. But she's just
Speaker 4: the accent, just the but she also, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: speaks like a Chinese person speaking English.
Speaker 2: What's a driving.
Speaker 4: Laugh?
Speaker 3: Because that was a test you would laugh exactly and
Speaker 3: you failed.
Speaker 4: I'll always I'll laugh at I'll laugh at you know,
Speaker 4: fat white people like you and skinny white people.
Speaker 3: You laugh at anyone.
Speaker 4: I'll laugh at anyone, including myself, more more of myself
Speaker 4: than so I'm allowed to laugh. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, Okay.
Speaker 4: It's quite funny.
Speaker 3: We're don't get too defensive.
Speaker 1: I've got Yeah for a thirty one year old, you
Speaker 1: look from a box that you look remarkably unscathed. Have
Speaker 1: you actually suffered.
Speaker 3: Many good questions?
Speaker 4: Good question, great question.
Speaker 5: No, I guess the biggest I was knock the biggest
Speaker 5: one I've had besides that. Coliflyer is yeah, not really
Speaker 5: being pretty lucky.
Speaker 4: I guess the is sort of like a red back spider, isn't.
Speaker 4: It's like the red cross on the back. It just
Speaker 4: warns you that there are any mem.
Speaker 5: A fighter, either a or a halfback.
Speaker 4: Half backs do they have cauliflowers not necessarily right, rider
Speaker 4: makes it and you're certainly not the size of the prop.
Speaker 4: So if I saw you'd go he can scrap number eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like in the olden days and the olden days,
Speaker 4: if you saw a guy had a tattoo, you wouldn't
Speaker 4: go fucking near them because they were tough. Now everyone's
Speaker 4: got a tattoo, you know, and not not all of them.
Speaker 4: Everyone's got a lovely sleeve. Look at that.
Speaker 3: They're like that, should we people have a toughness test
Speaker 3: before they get a tattoo? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4: Well, they did back in the day, right, Like a
Speaker 4: salty old sea dog with a tattoo of an anchor
Speaker 4: on his arm, You wouldn't give him ship, would you?
Speaker 3: Gui?
Speaker 4: What about to go had cut along the dotted line
Speaker 4: on his neck?
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't give him either.
Speaker 4: About to drop? Okay, you give a guy Chinese proverb?
Speaker 4: But what about a the double carp sleeve? You see,
Speaker 4: like the cockfish, the double carp you know, I've gotta
Speaker 4: made it. Turned up with one of them the other
Speaker 4: day and it's a it's a Chinese cockfish. You've got
Speaker 4: two of them on your arm and a full sleeve.
Speaker 4: It's not you know, there's nothing good about that.
Speaker 9: I met a guy that he was half American half Korean,
Speaker 9: and then he went back to Korea and.
Speaker 5: He had some which half.
Speaker 9: I'm not too sure, but what he had a Korean
Speaker 9: tattoo on his arm, a Korean writing and he went
Speaker 9: to someone he said, oh, yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 5: It means honor. And I said, not bad. He said,
Speaker 5: what do you mean, Yeah, that means not bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like the UFC phenomenon is something that's sort of,
Speaker 3: you know, really sort of just amazed me, you know,
Speaker 3: being around for a long time.
Speaker 4: And the worst tatty you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: Can I ask my question, amazing, it's pretty pretty beautiful.
Speaker 5: I quite like a good tattoo, you do.
Speaker 4: What's the best tattoo you've seen them?
Speaker 1: Anything that someone has put a lot of thought into,
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. I think it's all about so personal.
Speaker 4: Steve Hotton had a flying pigs of the flying horse,
Speaker 4: shoulder and shoulder on his.
Speaker 1: Back, the whole horse, or just the wings.
Speaker 4: Wings and the horse's head and you know the horse
Speaker 4: from behind with the wings spread, you know, like it
Speaker 4: was flying or galloping. I don't know. It might have
Speaker 4: been in the air, might have on the ground.
Speaker 5: Can no one ever had a sports cafe tattoo? Is that.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how we did team by?
Speaker 4: How to do some team by a picture of himself
Speaker 4: firing out of his chest?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Growing, Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 3: As I was saying before that, the phenomena the UFC
Speaker 3: is something that sort of really sort of just grabbed
Speaker 3: the whole world. To be fair, I've been trying to
Speaker 3: sort of get my head around it, and in the
Speaker 3: last sort of twenty minutes or so, listening to you
Speaker 3: has given me a sense of why this sport's taken off.
Speaker 3: You know, you're an incredible person to listen to and
Speaker 3: and your career has been amazing. So I want to
Speaker 3: thank you for coming on the show and putting up
Speaker 3: all all our bullshit but really appreciate it. And I
Speaker 3: can see you your calmness under pressure, you know, even
Speaker 3: on this podcast.
Speaker 4: Go and get the title. I'm really interested in what
Speaker 4: happens next once you get the title. How long you're
Speaker 4: going to hang at the top four. It's going to
Speaker 4: be a wonderful story that we're all all about watching
Speaker 4: and being a part of so cheers.
Speaker 3: Brother, next time. Yeah, thanks mate.
Speaker 5: Yeah where you live?
Speaker 4: You live in Pontanby.
Speaker 5: I'm out west, but I'm in Auckland.
Speaker 3: We could have done this at your place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could have come to your place to yours
Speaker 4: next time, just time as well.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it. Cheers, guys.
Speaker 3: I thought your behavior during that interview was inappropriate. Why
Speaker 3: because your abusive towards me.
Speaker 4: I was abusive. Told you that's your loving for me.
Speaker 1: You pretty much ask for everything you get.
Speaker 4: I really feel like.
Speaker 3: I put a lot of work into the show, and
Speaker 3: first of all is that he didn't show.
Speaker 1: Upative of how little work that you put into.
Speaker 3: Every time one guest, every time you do an interview
Speaker 3: you talk about cheese instead of sport, the whole show
Speaker 3: starts becoming about cheese.
Speaker 4: Cheese.
Speaker 3: You asked him a question about cheese. We're going to
Speaker 3: get into something different, cheese rolling.
Speaker 4: There's a world champion in the room, greatest sporting endeavor.
Speaker 5: Block blood.
Speaker 4: As we're going there, all these sort of inbred. It
Speaker 4: was in Gloucester, Gloucester, which is and bred.
Speaker 1: Don't take that person actually related to.
Speaker 4: The show over there. Don't be worried about it, but
Speaker 4: there it was two head city, and I mean, you'd
Speaker 4: have to be to go down this hill, to be honest.
Speaker 4: And so he punched a couple of quiets back and
Speaker 4: got a bit of false confidence.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this. This is the guy who
Speaker 3: I think should have been the champion of the cheese
Speaker 3: rolling Champions. He's at the front and here is just
Speaker 3: watch him, because he's got the whole loose body thing
Speaker 3: quite quite nice.
Speaker 4: And we could just and this guy carried himself and
Speaker 4: that the guy had won at twenty one times, had
Speaker 4: the bone of his shin hanging out through the pans,
Speaker 4: and two ambulances and we were sort of lining up
Speaker 4: ready for the next one, and they said, hold on,
Speaker 4: they'll be like a twenty minute wait whilst the ambulances
Speaker 4: take the people in the town and come back, which
Speaker 4: certainly got their drilling guy. And then some gloss the
Speaker 4: local came up and started sparking up a joint and said, well,
Speaker 4: anyone want a hood, and well, you know, rather not,
Speaker 4: you know, performance enhancing and so forth, And then he
Speaker 4: got down on the blocks and just sat there fifteen minutes,
Speaker 4: staring staring down the bottom of the hill. And then
Speaker 4: came promptly about last, or they're very passionate. How many
Speaker 4: of them are pissed at the start of the thing
Speaker 4: with Kii Bood who won it, and God bless it
Speaker 4: because she showed a great seat of heels, but she
Speaker 4: couldn't even speak before just roll. It's a good chance
Speaker 4: that the guy who was just flopping around and just
Speaker 4: fell asleep of his own volition. Well, I actually think
Speaker 4: and this is not meant to be, you know, to anyone,
Speaker 4: but it may be if you're an obese or in
Speaker 4: fact that a very chunky dwarf, you would make make
Speaker 4: like the cheese you.
Speaker 5: Know, and basically dwarf, and you actually get down quite quickly.
Speaker 4: Which you and put them into like in a hefty
Speaker 4: wetsuit and glaze them with like axle grease and just
Speaker 4: give the bars and a boot up the.
Speaker 5: Ass and you would go, well, actually do it on
Speaker 5: your gat The whole way down.
Speaker 4: I was thinking exactly the same thing, and he said it.
Speaker 3: It's you, is it? He looks you because you were
Speaker 3: the world cheese rolling champion a.
Speaker 4: Long long time ago. It wasn't the world cheese rolling champion.
Speaker 4: I won one heat. It was the quickest time, admittedly,
Speaker 4: but nonetheless you get to keep the cheese. You get
Speaker 4: to keep the cheese. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: Is it something you're proud of? Being the world cheese
Speaker 3: rolling champ.
Speaker 4: It was the one thing that for some reason got
Speaker 4: to me the most exposure or interest from the press
Speaker 4: internationally in my entire spawning career.
Speaker 3: Would you do it again?
Speaker 4: I actually spoke to one of the cheese companies and said, like, seriously,
Speaker 4: if you put a wetsuit on and you go like
Speaker 4: the Clappers, glazed like a Christmas ham and make like
Speaker 4: a porpoise when you fall over, you clean it up
Speaker 4: and then put your logo on it. And that we
Speaker 4: didn't have too many conversations, so, you.
Speaker 3: Know, continuing my theme of getting quite angry on the show,
Speaker 3: I asked you all to send something about being positive,
Speaker 3: and you've sent me nothing, like nothing at all, Like
Speaker 3: like no, don't don't even answer me back because I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have a few words. So that's made me angry.
Speaker 3: And and then today I had lunch and I had
Speaker 3: a garnish on my seafood chowder, and garnishes really really
Speaker 3: make me angry. I think people that garnish no garnishes
Speaker 3: are wrong. It's just a waste of resource. Like I
Speaker 3: had a seafood. I don't know what it was. It
Speaker 3: was just a curly bit of celery or something that
Speaker 3: was a complete waste of time and that wasn't pubes,
Speaker 3: was just celery. So I'm demanding that we stop garnishing
Speaker 3: our food, like, what is the reason for it? Fair
Speaker 3: enough my issues.
Speaker 2: You got a restaurant and you get chicken wings, you know,
Speaker 2: and they bring out they bring out five. I mean,
Speaker 2: what's that about. I mean you obviously, if you're with someone, right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have three. I'm gonna have two.
Speaker 3: I mean you were more worried that there's a chicken
Speaker 3: with just one wing.
Speaker 2: Well that's my whole point is that obviously a chicken
Speaker 2: has two wings. Don't be a tired us leap bring
Speaker 2: all this. So there's always got to be the even
Speaker 2: number of umber four eight. So that's two things we resolved.
Speaker 3: No more garnish, that's well said, No more garnish, No
Speaker 3: chicken even numbered chicken wing, even.
Speaker 4: Number chicken wings. Now that would be a conversation we're having.
Speaker 4: But the garnish thing, we all disagree with you because
Speaker 4: garnish is good.
Speaker 3: No garnish is bad.
Speaker 1: I'm actually hungry. I can't believe that we're doing this.
Speaker 3: We've got to wrap the show up, and this, this
Speaker 3: last piece of the show is probably not going to
Speaker 3: work as powerfully as I thought it would be. It's
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a piece of videotape that no
Speaker 3: one's ever seen before of zim zen Brock, and he's
Speaker 3: not on it. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: He used to talk about the stories about Peter Jones
Speaker 7: and Colonades, how they used to go to trainings and
Speaker 7: they used to take their boots and sugar sacks, and
Speaker 7: the boots are so they couldn't actually fit into a
Speaker 7: sugar sack. So I imagined, there's a little kid that
Speaker 7: the sugar sack must have been about that long. And
Speaker 7: so I thought, well, you know, I'm this morning. I'm
Speaker 7: never ever going to get to that be that big.
Speaker 7: Until I met sid Going when I was a twelve
Speaker 7: year old, thought well there might be there might be
Speaker 7: hope for me yet, so because he was obviously a
Speaker 7: small guy, but you know, it was just the pictures
Speaker 7: and you know, playing for the All Blacks, who was heroic,
Speaker 7: you know, listening to them, you know, listening to those
Speaker 7: I remember. I can clearly remember sitting in the back
Speaker 7: of the yard the hold them when I was a
Speaker 7: young kid, wrapped up there in a sleeping bag and
Speaker 7: listened to all the All Black games against theth Aviga,
Speaker 7: And yeah, I used to always fall asleep in the car,
Speaker 7: but listening to those All Black games, just the commentaries
Speaker 7: were just just fantastic. And I was looking across at
Speaker 7: Brent Harvey and they started reading the names out and
Speaker 7: then my name came up, and it was just like
Speaker 7: I didn't think I had heard it right, And until
Speaker 7: someone sort of over my shoulder and congratulated me at
Speaker 7: the end of it, I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: what I was just I was quite amazed that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: just that feeling of of joy, of joy and being,
Speaker 7: you know, just been named as an All Black, just
Speaker 7: that feeling of all black, you know, zin zen Brook
Speaker 7: was It was fantastic.
Speaker 4: You know how he talked about bringing things in sugar sacks.
Speaker 4: John Lissay used to bring his balls and sugars.
Speaker 3: That end titles play Now, right, so you're okay with
Speaker 3: we losing one hundred bucks, I'll be your legs on
Speaker 3: the weekend. You don't listen.
Speaker 4: You've always been against the All Blacks and a big
Speaker 4: match of that because there's ants some hedge if they
Speaker 4: lose rights.
Speaker 3: So where are we? What's this? Given?
Speaker 4: The thing deck for a being getting a'll be.
Speaker 3: Better hide hid if we really want to write a
Speaker 3: boat out we want.
Speaker 4: We don't have mcclaim their sign a brol But nobody
Speaker 4: knows who we are. So I found the key that
Speaker 4: opened this door and we're in. A little man gave
Speaker 4: a sort somewhere.
Speaker 3: Then is there the sports cap a cash? Did you
Speaker 3: still at the White House on trades?
Speaker 6: What right?
Speaker 3: Bringing in the show from here from now on? That's
Speaker 3: it