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Speaker 1: Some new research for you into our pelliative care system.

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Speaker 1: So we've slipped in terms of an international ranking, gone

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Speaker 1: from third to thirteenth. We have less than a third

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Speaker 1: of the recommended number of pelliative specialists per capita now.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Catherine de Seusser is the author of this work

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Speaker 1: and also the chair of the Australian New Zealand Society

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Speaker 1: Appelliative Medicine and as well as Catherine.

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Speaker 2: Mourning good morning.

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Speaker 1: Is it merely about workers to patients in the ratio?

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Speaker 1: Is there more to it than that?

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Speaker 2: It's more to it than that. That's really important that

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Speaker 2: we don't have enough specialists despite having ample opportunity to

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Speaker 2: train them and lots of space to do so, we

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Speaker 2: just don't have the funding to do it. But it's

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Speaker 2: also the funding and policy the resourcing of our palliative

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Speaker 2: care team. So compare it to maternity at the other

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Speaker 2: end of life, you'd expect a full funded maternity system,

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Speaker 2: but for people who are dying is often provided by

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Speaker 2: NGOs with government funding in the background. Maybe about fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: Three to thirteen and slipping further in the future. Do

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Speaker 1: you think or we don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. Other countries have taken you strides

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Speaker 2: in improving their palative care services. But as our country

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Speaker 2: is getting older, the number of people dying is going

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Speaker 2: to double in the next thirty years. So if we

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Speaker 2: don't take action fast to get the care in that

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Speaker 2: people need are already struggling, health services are going to

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Speaker 2: struggle even more and fall apart.

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Speaker 1: Anyone know about this and doing anything about it.

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Speaker 2: There's a bill in the Biscuit tint Human putting palative

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Speaker 2: care as a human right and it should be something

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Speaker 2: that's mandatory to provide, but you never know when something's

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Speaker 2: going to come out as a biscuit tin in politics.

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Speaker 2: It would be great to have this as a policy

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Speaker 2: with government and a plan for provision of the care,

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Speaker 2: proper resourcing so that we don't walk into this huge

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Speaker 2: numbers of increased death without planning of how we're going

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Speaker 2: to provide the care that they deserve and they need.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your insite. Catherine de Suze Doctor Catherine de

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Speaker 1: Suze a chair of the Australians in a Society Appelliative Medicine.

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