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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to twelve on News Talk said B. Katherine

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Speaker 2: Rains is our book reviewer. She's chosen two books to

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Speaker 2: recommend to us this weekend. More than a Catherine, Good

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Speaker 2: Morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with The War Below by

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Speaker 2: Ernest Scheider.

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Speaker 3: So this poe the question that if we want to

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Speaker 3: build electric vehicles and solar panels and cell phones, that

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Speaker 3: we need to dig more minds to extract the minerals

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Speaker 3: such as lithium and rare earths. And the focus on

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Speaker 3: the book is that we've reached a very time of

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Speaker 3: a very difficult choice. In particular, book focuses on the USA,

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Speaker 3: but relevant to other countries, and that the US wants

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Speaker 3: to reduce green vehicles and infrastructures, and it needs to

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Speaker 3: be able to access the metals and minerals to make

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Speaker 3: those possible. And the places where they're available in the

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Speaker 3: US are places known for natural beauty and endangered species.

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Speaker 3: And so you see the examples of conflicts between the

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Speaker 3: companies that want to mine for certain metals that residents

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Speaker 3: who oppose the constructions of those minds. The environmentalists that

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Speaker 3: recognize that mining various metals is essential to the green revolution,

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Speaker 3: but don't want to disturb the native plants and the process.

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Speaker 3: The miners who want jobs, and the politicians who just

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Speaker 3: tell everybody what they want to hear because they need

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Speaker 3: both the votes of the miners and the environmentalists. And

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Speaker 3: so he takes it, and he looks at a specific

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Speaker 3: places in the US, such as Nevada and North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: and there's a focus on this Thames but and it's

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Speaker 3: the only plant that's known to grow in the lithium

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Speaker 3: rich soil of Nevada, and he uses that discovery and

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Speaker 3: protection of this plant is the story that highlights those

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Speaker 3: tensions and compromises and motivations behind all of the different

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Speaker 3: people involved. And you know, like, if you don't mine

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Speaker 3: the metals that we need for the electric vehicles, and

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Speaker 3: you become dependent on other countries and primarily China. And

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Speaker 3: his argument here to supply with the materials. But if

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Speaker 3: you do mine in the US, then you've got the

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Speaker 3: communities and the ecosystems and all of the indigenous sites

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Speaker 3: that could be destroyed forever. So he crafts this business

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Speaker 3: story that talks about all of those factors and the

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Speaker 3: changes to the geopolitical boundaries, and you know, what is

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Speaker 3: it that we value and what's the cost of the technology.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's fascinating because you know we're right at

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Speaker 3: the sort of the beginning of this argument almost about

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Speaker 3: and those tensions that exist in every way that we

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Speaker 3: use energy. But how we solve those issues?

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Speaker 2: Right? That sounds intriguing. I think I'll be into this.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a bit of meat. That's The War

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Speaker 2: Below by Ernest Scheider. You've also read Home Truths by

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Speaker 2: Charity Norman.

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Speaker 3: So this is a set in Yorkshire and it's told

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Speaker 3: by LIVERTMB. He's a probation officer and her husband, Scott,

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Speaker 3: who's a secondary school teacher, in particular their teenage daughter Heidi,

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Speaker 3: and they have a son, Noah, and they look back

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Speaker 3: from twenty nineteen in August, where the whole story begins

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Speaker 3: on Heidi's thirteenth birthday, which led to Liver being on

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Speaker 3: trial for attempted murder and at the party, Scott's brother

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Speaker 3: dies unexpectedly and everybody has their feelings of guilt which

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Speaker 3: lead to this family unraveling, and Livy's used to dealing

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Speaker 3: with criminals in her role as a probation officer, but

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Speaker 3: now that she's at risk of this prison term and

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Speaker 3: a jury's deliberating that she's guilty or not. But her husband, Scott,

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Speaker 3: after losing his brother, stumbles into this world of online

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theories and he's seeking answers or perhaps comfort in

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Speaker 3: those those theories, and it really turns the lives of

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Speaker 3: Vera and Heidi and Noah upside down, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the tension kind of keeps going as he steps further

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Speaker 3: into this world of conspiracy theories and leavers trying to

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Speaker 3: hold her family together in this constant anxiety about her children,

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Speaker 3: in particular Noah, who suffers from asthma. And there's just

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Speaker 3: this a real suspense thriller, you know, finally dynamics and

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Speaker 3: the impact of these theories on personal relationships in this

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Speaker 3: courtroom drama where you know she's on trial for attempted

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Speaker 3: murder and hit that tension and lots of themes in

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Speaker 3: grief and guilt and family and you know she's guilty

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Speaker 3: or not guilty, but lots of twists and turns, and

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Speaker 3: Charity Norman's particularly good at telling the storyline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Okay, That's Home, Truths by Charity Norman

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Speaker 2: Catherine's first book, The War Below by Ernest Scheider. Both

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Speaker 2: of those, of course, will be up on our website

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