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Speaker 1: Little bit of banks around the place over the opening.

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Speaker 1: Netflix has opened to what they're calling in Australia and

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Speaker 1: New Zealand office. Turns out it's probably more Australia than

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Speaker 1: it is New Zealand. Our local office really just sort

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Speaker 1: of an Australian office when it comes to local production.

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Speaker 1: Are we a little bit out of luck? Have they

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Speaker 1: forgotten about us? As the question being asked, the president

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Speaker 1: of the Screen Production and Development Association are in gardners

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Speaker 1: with us? How are you, Irene?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you mate.

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Speaker 1: Were you guys cognizant that Netflix were going to come?

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Speaker 1: Do they sort of you know, say hey, where we're coming,

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Speaker 1: we're opening, we want to do business. Do you need

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Speaker 1: will they just sort of turn up, Well.

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Speaker 2: They actually started having an Australian office a little while ago,

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Speaker 2: just you know, fairly quietly. It was suddenly Netflix Australia

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's been in the media a lot lately

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Speaker 2: because they've launched the big Australian series Territory, and so

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Speaker 2: there's been quite a lot of media coverage. And you

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Speaker 2: know it's Netflix A and Z this and Netflix A

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Speaker 2: and zaid there, and I'd have to say some of

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Speaker 2: Spada's producer members have kind of gone but the NZ.

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Speaker 2: But is that Netflix, because you know, obviously over the

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Speaker 2: years Netflix, you know international productions, some Netflix International productions

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Speaker 2: have shot in New Zealand, which is great for them ourustry,

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Speaker 2: and they've even bought the odd existing New Zealand show

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Speaker 2: like The Casketeers. But in terms of actually commissioning a

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Speaker 2: local production, which is of course what gives us intellectual

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Speaker 2: property and export dollar and is the bit that's actually

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Speaker 2: good for our economy. Not to mention cultural ast, but

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Speaker 2: just nothing, just silence. It's like, yes, we're netflx AMZ,

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Speaker 2: but and occasionally are even to the same things like,

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Speaker 2: oh but it's a nice place to shoot, But we're

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Speaker 2: not just a nice place to shoot. That's you know

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Speaker 2: that we're not service center for the film. We actually

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Speaker 2: make really good shows. Many of are just screenning all

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Speaker 2: around the world on other platform We know.

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Speaker 1: That, and is that up to them to do something

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Speaker 1: about it or is it up to us to do

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Speaker 1: something about it and get in their ear?

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit all of those things. They will

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Speaker 2: know and it's probably slightly embarrassed, and they also know

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Speaker 2: that we the producers Guild have been lobbying for the

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Speaker 2: international streamers to have to contribute to the news deal

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Speaker 2: Unscreen ecosystem in somewhere because they've you know, they've broken

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Speaker 2: the model. They've they've ruined the commercial revenue advertising model.

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Speaker 2: It's making it really hard for us to make local

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Speaker 2: shows and they know that. And there's lots of territories

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Speaker 2: where they're being regulated, they're paying a levee whatever, and

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Speaker 2: so we've been asking government, you know, you get can

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Speaker 2: you regulate them, Can they pay a levy, can they

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Speaker 2: have a quote whatever? A levee would probably be simplest

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand, but it would at least often the

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Speaker 2: blow while we sort of work through all of those things.

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Speaker 1: And there is the goverment remotely interested in any of that,

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Speaker 1: because that whole you know, the digital build thing doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be on the in front of their radio way.

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Speaker 2: That's the journalism. But we're slightly different than that.

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Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is they don't seem overly keen

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Speaker 1: on that. Are they keen on your idea or not?

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Speaker 2: Really, We've had good indications it's certainly being looked at,

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Speaker 2: it's being worked on. It's just that regulation takes ages,

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Speaker 2: and we're in a pretty tough spot in the meantime.

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Speaker 2: So I guess what we're saying is, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: a big commercial entergy. You're not under any obligation currently,

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Speaker 2: you have no regulation. But you know, if you going

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Speaker 2: to call yourself Netflix a n Z, could we have

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Speaker 2: some of the.

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Speaker 1: Zen question it's not fair? Well, then I appreciate it

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