1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Dan Mitchinson US correspondent Hyden Hey Hither. So they've got 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: this curfew, and ally, what exactly has brought us on? 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's just these these immigration protests that 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: have grown and grown and grown. I mean we're into 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: day five right now, and you know, there's still a 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: lot of people out there. But I think this has 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: grown into more of a political battle too, between President 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: Trump and our governor here at California, Gavin Newsom, who's 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: a Democrat and who everyone knows will be running for 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: president in twenty twenty eight, that's no secret. And he's 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: been calling out the government on this, saying that Trump 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: is overreaching on this and bringing in the military is 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: just fanning the fires when you've got the National Guard 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: and Trump is overstepping his authority. And he spoke just 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: a short time agoing this is what he had to say. 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: California maybe first, but it clearly will not end here. 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Other states are next. Democracy is next. Democracy is under 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: assault before our eyes. This moment we have feared has arrived. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. He's walking this fine line. Can 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: he be tough enough, can he stand up to Trump? 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: Does he lead or does he look like he's kind 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: of posturing for the camera and for the media. 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: How problematic is it for him to have lost that 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: court case. 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a little bit. I think 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: I really think that it's not going to be a 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: big difference in terms of Robert the Attorney General, and 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: he were announcing that they were suing the administration that 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: Trump lacked this authority to federalize a national guard and 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: this was infringing on the state's sovereignty. But I think 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: this is just going to go back and forth, to 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: tell you the truth, between the mayor, between the governor, 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: and between the president. 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: Now, when you have the likes of the mayor coming 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: out and sort of suggesting that what Donald Trump is 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: doing here is practicing for whatever, the midterms or whatever, 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: is this critical or do these guys look conspiratorial floating 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: these ideas. 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: I think they look a little bit of both. I mean, 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, you've already got the governor's press offers. Earlier today. 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: They sent out a post on x and they put 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Trump as a Star Wars villain, and the governor's response 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: to his threatn arrest because Trump said that you should 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: go ahead and arrest the governor, right now, and so 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, Newsom is saying, come and get me, tough guy. 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, guys, you're two of the most 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: powerful men here in the United States. Governor Newsom is, 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: you know, in charge of the I think the fourth 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: largest economy in the world right now, and this is 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: what you're doing. 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it feels to me like there's a 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: lot at stake here for Newsom, isn't it Because if 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't get if these if these riots aren't under control, 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: and these protests aren't under control, it makes him look weak, 55 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: It does, It does, And I think that's what that 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: Trump who was speaking earlier today at the East Coast 58 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: about the Army's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, That's what 59 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: he was kind of bringing up about how weak Newsom 60 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: is and how you know he's not going to let anything. 61 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: He being Trump is going to you know, clamp down 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: on this and make sure it doesn't get out of control, 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: because this has this has happened, he said a number 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: of times in our in our state. 65 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, now, tell me about twenty three and 66 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: me is going to court over the sale of this 67 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: genetic information. Is it going to be able to do it. 68 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I think so, I mean, you know, I think they've 69 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: got a good point. I mean, I know a lot 70 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: of people who are into this stuff. I actually have 71 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: one of those ancestry kids downstairs from their competitor that 72 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, you just kind of spit in. You send 73 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: it in the mail and you hope you're related to 74 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: somebody famous in three weeks. But what they're saying is 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: that these samples, these DNA samples, and the traits and 76 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: the medical records are just too sensitive to be sold. 77 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: And every person that has signed up for this needs 78 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: to give their written express So that's why we've seen 79 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: a number of suits brought up since the company filed 80 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: for bankruptcy. And you know this, this is a company 81 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: that was doing health research and drug development. I mean 82 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: they had a lot going on, but they just couldn't 83 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: find a profitable business model, which is why they laid 84 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: off staff and then they filed for bankruptcy. But you've 85 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: got all this gold that's out there, all this personal 86 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: information that can be sold and might still be sold. 87 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Are you going to do this but thing? Are you 88 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: going to seend it to ancestry? 89 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 90 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been with I asked for that for I 91 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: don't know if it's for my birthday for Christmas, and 92 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I just haven't gotten around to it. But I'm really 93 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: curious because we had one of our kids that did 94 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: it too, and it's kind of fascinating just to see 95 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: all the what comes up from your past. 96 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't care about them having access and potentially on 97 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: selling your DNA, which is like arguably the most private thing. 98 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: You're most unique the Heather. 99 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: We've known each other long enough, do you think do 100 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: you think anybody really wants what I have to offer 101 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: in my DNA? They can have it if they're that 102 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: desperatet go to it. 103 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: I say, hey, what happened to chet GPT today? 104 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Kind of went down a big outage And this is 105 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: a popular AI chat bot. And the reason why, well 106 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: why are we talking about this when there's so much 107 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: going on in the world, is because we've got students 108 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: at university across the country right now that are doing finals, 109 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: my teams included right now, and they rely on this 110 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: kind of stuff too. And and I don't think my 111 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: daughter as much as my son, but when something like 112 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: this happens, you hear about it because it's become part 113 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: of their daily use, and even teachers and professors will 114 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: tell their students go on it, use it, which seems 115 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: a little kind of detrimental I think sometimes to the 116 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: whole learning process. But that could just, you know, be 117 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: because of our generational gaps I guess between me and 118 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: maybe the teens. 119 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ignore it, like you can't ignore 120 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: a calculator. You know, that's just part of the world now, Dan, 121 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it very much, Dan Mitgenson, US correspondent. For 122 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news 123 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the 124 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.