1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Palmerston North Hospital is cutting back on some of its 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: bowl cancer screening procedures, and Health New Zealand is unable 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: to say if this is happening in other regions around 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: New Zealand. At the moment, in Palmerston North there are 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty two patients who are on the 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: waiting list for a surveillance colonoscopy. These are patients with 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: a high risk of developing bow cancer because of their 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: medical history or a family history. Well, the hospital says 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: pretty much all of those patients probably won't be getting 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: a colonoscopy until May at the earliest. The hospital says 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the capacity to screen them and it 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: has to focus on people who are either symptomatic or 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: are already on the National bow cancer screening list. The 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Professor Frank Frazell is medical advisor at Bellcanser, New Zealand. 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: He's with me now, good evening, good ANNTE. Is this 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: How concerned are you to hear this? 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: I think, well, I am, I'm very concerned. These are 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: patients said increase risk of bow cancer. They've either had 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: a previous poop or they've got a BAM. The history 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: that's very strong for bow cancer, So they've been identified 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: as not being your average risk, but they have been 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: substantially increase in risk. And now the delays of six 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: months before they can pick up and carry on, so 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: that six months of those screening, which means they weren't 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: clear the more at the start, So many of these 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: people will wait a lot longer in order to get 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: service delivered to them that they have been expecting. 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Is six months as a minimum, a significant period of 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: time when it comes to the development of bow cancer. 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Would you like to wait six months to find out 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: that you had bow cancer? 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Certainly not, and I think that's. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: It's also most importantly the ability to remove pre malignant lesions, 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: pre cancer's lesions, which stops them going on to cancer. 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: And so just that delay of nine months, maybe a 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: year for some of these people will increase the number 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: of these people with which could have avoided the cancer 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: by having premial legions removed. 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Will this result in people having cancer that otherwise would 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: have been detected? Do you think? 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Yes? They would have had pre cancerous legions removed, And 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: now that we're delayed and they won't get it, they 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: won't get them removed until too late. Until they've got cancer. 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: So the whole that's the whole purpose of screening and 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: of the process, and it's a lot of work has 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: gone to determining that these people are at increased risk 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: and they've proven both by family history and by having 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: previous for previous cancers that they are at risk and 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: so they are a vulnerable group. And my understanding is 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: that the short staffed and Palmston North or Mid Central 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: Health is the sort of old region used to be 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: called and the unable to replace staff that have left, 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: and that's partly due to the infrastructure around appointment with 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: the Federal Aura House New Zealand is it's also called. 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: And this has been an issue for at least eighteen 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: months two years, trying to get people through the appointment 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: process and the lack of. 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: Appointment and now it's kind of it's come to a 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: head and here we are with a six month pause. Professor, 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: thank you for filling us in on that. Professor Frank 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: Fazel's balcans in New Zealand's Medical Advisor. For more from 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to news talks. It'd 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,