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Speaker 1: Social investments getting a boost. This is Bill english Is

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Speaker 1: Baby now carried by Nicola Willis pre budget announcement two

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars. One hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: of that goes to the new Social Investment Fund. It

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Speaker 1: will invest in services that deliver measurable improvements in the

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Speaker 1: lives of those who.

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Speaker 2: Need our help, guided by data and evidence.

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Speaker 1: You contract directly to providers for you contracts the idea

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Speaker 1: you target problems earlier for better results long term. Belinda

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Speaker 1: Hemiwana is the social services provider out here at our

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Speaker 1: CEO with me this morning. Blinda, good morning, Oh good morning.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. Can you just

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Speaker 1: tell us what is the main difference? Is it the

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Speaker 1: length of the contract here? What is the main difference

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Speaker 1: for you with how this will work?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, sure. So we really heartened by this announcement

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Speaker 2: and I think definitely the vision to have longer term contracting,

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Speaker 2: sustainable funding with community sector organizations to work to get

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Speaker 2: either to develop outcomes framework so we all know that

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Speaker 2: we are delivering the best for the kids Infano that

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Speaker 2: are receiving services. Just an example, I represent over two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty community based providers and they work over

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Speaker 2: seventeen government departments. So you can just imagine all of

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Speaker 2: the separate contracting arrangements, the different reporting. There's some inconsistency

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Speaker 2: in how providers need to report on results in timeframes.

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Speaker 2: So we're really hoping for some good administrative burden reductions.

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Speaker 1: One, so one provider might have to deal with seventeen

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Speaker 1: different government agencies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know at least five to six. We

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Speaker 2: often have multiple years.

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Speaker 1: And many of you renewing every year, so you're having

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Speaker 1: to go through these proces, jump through these sub service

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Speaker 1: So admin up the wazoo. I'm imagining for you with

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Speaker 1: this news scheme. Do you have have Do they set

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Speaker 1: KPIs you have to meet?

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think most contracting relationships at the moment

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Speaker 2: there are performance indicators and volumes or expected outcomes or outputs. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think this really pushes it to the next level.

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Speaker 1: Though, how does it push it to the next level?

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Speaker 1: Because the problem with the word anger tamadek thing and

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Speaker 1: I know we've had that report from the Order to General,

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Speaker 1: but the problem was that the providers were not meeting

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Speaker 1: KPIs but still getting all the money and even when

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Speaker 1: there was an underspend. We're keeping the underspend too, yes.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's obviously the so I just answer

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Speaker 2: answer the first part of the question I think, which

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Speaker 2: is about how will this be different from the KP,

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Speaker 2: and then we can move into some of those observations

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Speaker 2: from the Utamadikey process. I think one of the really

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Speaker 2: valuable aspects of social investment is you'll take it out

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Speaker 2: of one government agency, so we know kids Infarno are complicated.

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Speaker 2: You don't just have a health issue or an education

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Speaker 2: issue or a well being issue. Often these are quite interconnected.

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Speaker 2: And what I like about the model is it will

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Speaker 2: allow cross government results in indicators, so you can really

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Speaker 2: tackle those hard cases and not just be in in

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Speaker 2: one contract dealing with one aspect like a health or

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Speaker 2: an education and another dealing with the counseling or the

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Speaker 2: youth work. So it's a really nice, elegant way to

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Speaker 2: tackle these big issues. So we really, you know, we

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Speaker 2: think it will work. We want to see it on

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Speaker 2: the ground obviously, and we would have liked to see

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred and ninety million because it's spread

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Speaker 2: over four years, but the Minister has talked about scaling

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Speaker 2: it up, so This is a good chance just to

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Speaker 2: your point about do we know what's working and are

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Speaker 2: we funding it? This is a great chance to put

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Speaker 2: the results on the table and to work in partnership

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Speaker 2: with government to do things that are really impactful.

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Speaker 1: Which is exactly what we want to happen all of us. Belinda,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Keep up the good work. Belinda me

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Speaker 1: one home with us this morning Social service providers alted

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Speaker 1: a CEO on the changes the governments are out well,

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Speaker 1: the funding boots the governments and now it's for social investment.

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