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Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Barring, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so asset sales already an issue.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, it is an issue. And of course, as

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Speaker 2: soon as it came out of Chris Luxen's mouth, was

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Speaker 2: going to be an issue for the Labor Party, there

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Speaker 2: was no doubt about that. But it's coalition partner in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. First, they're having a go as well. But

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Speaker 2: Luxon was in the house this afternoon being quizzed about

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Speaker 2: his view of basset sales, and he certainly didn't hold back.

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Speaker 1: If you are a high function economy like Singapore, one

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Speaker 1: of the hallmarks of their success has been their asset recycling.

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Speaker 1: They're able to take government capital and redeploy it to

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Speaker 1: higher purposes that generate greater returns and greater benefits for

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Speaker 1: their people. It's pretty simple. We're going to have an

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Speaker 1: adult conversation, a serious conversation, a strategic one to say

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Speaker 1: if there is government capital or government assets that could

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Speaker 1: or should be recycled for greater purpose and greater benefit

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Speaker 1: for the New Zealand people. That's a legitimate question that

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Speaker 1: we should have, but we should have it without trying

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Speaker 1: to politicize it and the way the members started today.

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Speaker 2: I've got to say it's a question that wouldn't Peters.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly asking Winston no doubt about us on the

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Speaker 2: campaign trial. He took his second or his first eighteen

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Speaker 2: months and his deputy prime minister for a very good reason.

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Speaker 2: Second eighteen months now means that he can campaign taking

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Speaker 2: on the job of deputy prime minister. That was a

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Speaker 2: very definite move for him to give him political advantage

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Speaker 2: on Oarnzeed this morning, Peters wouldn't have a bar of

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Speaker 2: National's call for a discussion on asset sales and he

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Speaker 2: wasn't holding back on his coalition partners success.

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Speaker 3: Here he is and here they come again with the

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Speaker 3: same story. You know what the story really means because

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Speaker 3: they failed to run the economy properly. They wanted to

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Speaker 3: the assets of a time when the country was month properly,

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Speaker 3: when we were number two in the world. We've got

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Speaker 3: a situation where we haven't turned the economy around in

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Speaker 3: the way we should have as fast as we should have.

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Speaker 3: I know it can be turned around, but not what

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Speaker 3: this sort of strategy were you not actually testing the economy.

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Speaker 3: They're actually just getting rid of the assets built up

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Speaker 3: by our forefathers to try and balance the books. That

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Speaker 3: is an admission oftential fare before we ever start. Why

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Speaker 3: don't we fixie comya properly?

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Speaker 2: So he's not really praising the government that he so,

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Speaker 2: how did Luxe and explain away Winston Peter's viewmint opposition

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Speaker 2: to as it sails? Well, have a listen.

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Speaker 1: The Minister of Foreign Affairs has been here a long time.

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Speaker 1: He's been here almost half a century. He has a

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Speaker 1: lot of entrenched positions on lots of different things. But

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Speaker 1: he and I are very very cognizant of what our

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Speaker 1: pronouns are and they are we.

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Speaker 2: That was quite good. I thought that that's relating of

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Speaker 2: course to Luxe and making his comment overseas. But they

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Speaker 2: had move on orders with a big thing again in

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Speaker 2: Parliament today by taking on a life of their own.

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Speaker 2: The Green's Chloe Swarbrick, she was on a bandwagon again

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Speaker 2: in parliament. She's been a bit like a crack record

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Speaker 2: over recent months, inviting the Prime Minister to take a

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Speaker 2: walk on the wild side with her in downtown Auckland

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Speaker 2: to see how the rough sleepers fear. Swarbrick was again

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Speaker 2: at it today asking lux And about rough sleepers, but

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Speaker 2: her question was taken over by New Zealand First Shane Jones.

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Speaker 2: Luxon was much more upfront than he was last week

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Speaker 2: about the government's plans here.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 1: We want people to be able to go into the

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Speaker 1: Auckland CBD and not be intimidated. We are considering move

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Speaker 1: on orders, but we need to make sure the support

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Speaker 1: is in place so that those folk when they are

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Speaker 1: moved on, actually have somewhere to go. We don't just

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Speaker 1: move the problem around the city.

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Speaker 5: The Honoral Change Jhones the Prime Minister. Can the Prime

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Speaker 5: Minister confirm that thousands of visitors to Queen Street fear

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Speaker 5: for their own safety and it's not purely an issue

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Speaker 5: of homelessness but potential criminality, drug taking and people defending victimhood.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can. Many Aucklanders in Auckland refuse to go

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Speaker 1: in the CBD for exactly that reason.

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Speaker 4: The Donald Shange Jones speaker.

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Speaker 5: In relation to job seeker supporters, the Prime Minister, where

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Speaker 5: a couple of marriages are about to become unemployed.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's referring to their very good sense

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Speaker 2: of humor here he's got you didn't get it. He's

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Speaker 2: talking about the two Maldi MP's and they went in

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Speaker 2: their house today, I might say, and that was a

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Speaker 2: simple formality getting rid of them, that is, as Parliament

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Speaker 2: got together today. Here's a speaker, Jerry Brownley.

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Speaker 4: I've advised by a Tiparty MARII that their parliamentary membership

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Speaker 4: has changed and that Maria Meno Carpakingi and Taku de

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Speaker 4: Peris are no longer members of Tiparty Mari for parliamentary purposes. Accordingly,

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Speaker 4: under standing at order thirty five to five, those members

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Speaker 4: from the tenth, if they've ever twenty twenty five, are

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Speaker 4: regarded as independent members for parliamentary purposes.

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Speaker 2: We ain't heard the heart last of that one yet,

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Speaker 2: have we, because we the other two MPs that still

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Speaker 2: do belong to the Maori Party besides their co leadership,

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Speaker 2: they went in the house today either as far as

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Speaker 2: I could see, and of course neither were the two

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Speaker 2: that have been expelled from the party. So who knows

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Speaker 2: what these four MPs two thirds of the caucus are

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Speaker 2: planning now.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Hey, there's a potential wrinkle in any plans to

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Speaker 1: walk a jump them, which I'm going to run through next.

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Speaker 1: Where I thought was interesting very sober senior political correspondent.

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