1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: needs News togs head by you. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to day, the immigration crackdown, the Defense Minister and Keen. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: David kirkhe these days as tire of KMD, which is Katmandu, 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: and they're about to close a bunch of stores. Cody Taylor, 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: He's playing some rugby this weekend. Tim and Katie to 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: the week Richard Arnold Murray Old's they pony up with 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: the good global stuff as well. Husky Friday morning, seven 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: past six from the Old Cart before the Horse Department. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: Two setbacks for ideas we thought were going to work, 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: or perhaps we hoped we're going to work, but sadly 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: I can report this morning they are not ida. Number One, 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: we get big tech to pay for locally produced news. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: That's Google paying a company like n zad me for 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: news that ends up on their news feed. Deals to 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: a degree have been done specifically between some of the companies, 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: but the government had the idea that as part of 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: their supporting of the Troubled Media Plan, they could drag 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: big tech to the table to cough up turns out 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: they couldn't, They can't and they won't. Australia had the 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: same idea. Donald Trump got wind of that told them 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: that these were American companies. If you tax them, he 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: will whack tariffs all over the place. We were waiting 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: in the wings to see how it all went in 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Australia before we gave it the full crack. Here, neither 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: of us will be cracking anything. Idea number two banning 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: social media for kids one of those almost universally agreed 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: upon feel good ideas that was never going anywhere. Nice thought, 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: just not real. Australia had to crack at that too, 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: and like Idea number one, we're sitting waiting and watching 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: to see what they do. Their ban comes in in December. 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: It will not work. Why because we have a landmark 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: national studying this week and it's found it's impossible. The 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: Age Assurance Technology Trials, what they called it. It was 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: commissioned by the Australian government, looked at everything. Their conclusion, 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: no single solution exists. Can you fiddle? Can you poke? 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Can your prod? Yes you can? We found I quote them, 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: we found a plethora of approaches that fit use cases 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: in different ways, but we did not find a single 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: ubiquitous solution that would suit all use cases, nor did 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: we find solutions that were guaranteed to be effective. And 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: this is where bandwagon's come in. We all like to 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: hate on social media, we all like to protect kids, 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: we all want to be seen to be doing the 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: right thing, and government's are not devoid of that particular weakness. 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: But the problem with governments is they shouldn't promise what 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: they can't deliver, and they were never going to be 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: able to deliver either ideas one or two. Not Australia, not. 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: US, News of the World. In ninety seconds on. 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Show this morning on the Hill from a Senate hearing, 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Sanders VRFK, you're. 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: Telling the American people that the American Medical Association, representing 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of people, have been co opted and 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: that they should not trust their doctors. And I'm the 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 4: American accotomy of pediatrics, the American head. By the way, 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: just for the record, every single Republican I don't mean 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: to be political here, mister chairman has to receive pac 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: money from. 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: The pharmaceutical industry. 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 6: Are they all corrupted as well? 62 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you the American heart Association is quite 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: by the everybody but. 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: You, sir Elizabeth Warren was there as well as you 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: and el As regards the Portuguese crash, this bloke was 66 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: on board and that he made him. I only started 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: to panic when I saw the other courage coming down. 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: If the other one crashed into us, we would all die, 69 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: and I screamed, We're all going to die here in 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Brooking a couple of things. Versaly Starmer's working awfully hart 71 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: this morning to defend Rayner over a text on. 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 7: She new on Monday that she had taken advice previously 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 7: when she did the compares as she was taking further advice, 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 7: but the actual advice came through on Wednesday morning. 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Having said that just breaking in the last hour, Very 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Cohen Associates, which is her lawyers, which she claims gave 77 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: her advice on Tex said we represented her on the 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: house purchase, but we gave her never did give her 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: any tax advice. So I think that's the end of it, 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: and she's taste. Meantime, in ipping the bloke who sparked 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: the original protest and the court case from the council, 82 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: he's been found guilty. 83 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 8: He was accused of approaching a fourteen year old local girl, 84 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 8: making lude come towards her, touching her thigh and telling 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 8: her that she was very pretty, that he wants to 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 8: make babies with her back at his hotel room at 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 8: the Bell in Epping. 88 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: Now the fashion world has lost one of the grapes 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: as well. 90 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 9: He bought a sort of gravitas to the industry that 91 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 9: very few people would be able to achieve today. So 92 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 9: he really felt like her kind of an example of 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 9: a lost generation. I think, kind of lost elegance that 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 9: we don't really see and we probably won't see again. 95 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: She refers to Jorgio Armani, working till the End, died 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: at the age of ninety one. I'll work you through 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: some of his highlights and low lights later on in 98 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: the program that has news the world in nineteen jobs, 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: the big one coming out tomorrow in America. But this 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: morning we got first time claims for unemployment benefits that's 101 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: risen to an eleven week high. So that gives you 102 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: an indication that just maybe, in fact, the quote was 103 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: the labor market is showing signs of cracking. So it's 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: signs that just maybe those terrors are starting to hit 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: twelve past six. 106 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast full show podcast on a hard 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: radio ow if my News talks. 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: Eb now the court loss for Trump overnight are Harvard 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: that freeze on the funds that turns out to be illegal. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: So by my account, that's zero for five this week. 111 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: By the way, that Coalition of the Willing meeting overnight 112 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: which we took part in. I understand Luxlan was part 113 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: of that meeting via zoom. Obviously. Macron says there are 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: twenty six countries who are ready to send troops by land, 115 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: sea or air. What I want to know? Actually he 116 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: claims it's thirty five, and so thirty five were there? 117 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Twenty six are snding troops? Are we one of them? 118 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: Judith Collins after seven fifteen past a bye you a 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: diamond ring. I'm j my Wealth Andrew Keller her good 120 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: Friday morning, Very good morning, Mike. So consents to one 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: thing and we're fascinated by them building work in places 122 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: another what do we got? 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 5: Okay? 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 10: So, look, the thing about the start of Mike is 125 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 10: it's a little dated. So I mean we're in September 126 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 10: and this is Q two data, so it's the end 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 10: of June. But it's all we got, So we deal 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 10: with what we got, don't we Yes, you're right, building 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 10: consents are stable, they're not getting any worse. The building 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 10: work put in place tells us what's actually being built, 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 10: so it estimates the value and volume of work put 132 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 10: in place on construction jobs in New Zealand over the 133 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 10: June quarter, So we get that little insight into the 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 10: growth and activity and what is an important sector of 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 10: the economy. So what are the numbers. The seasonally adjusted 136 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 10: total building volume fell one point eight percent compared to 137 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 10: the March quarter, and you can break that down into 138 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 10: residential which fell two point nine percent, a non residential 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 10: which was more resilient, only falling zero point four percent, 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 10: and the total building value fell quite a large eight 141 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 10: and a half percent. Now, Mike, there's a little important 142 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 10: bit of context there, because in the March quarter, the 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 10: residential work, when we look at the breakdown of that, 144 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 10: it lifted, and that was after four consecutive quarters of contraction. 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 10: So we got a little bit excited then. But the 146 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 10: June quarter the needle has turned down again and the 147 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 10: risk of repeating an oft used refrain in this property sector. 148 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 10: We are dealing with the aftermath of the bursting of 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 10: an asset bubble that really did reach into every sort 150 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 10: of small town and suburb and every economic looking cranny 151 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 10: in New Zealand because it's our biggest asset class. Residential 152 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 10: property is down over twenty percent in many places, So 153 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 10: this is essentially a residential bear market. We're trying to 154 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 10: work our way out of it, but those economic headwinds 155 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 10: are making it hard, you know, weak employment market, falling immigration, 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 10: the reduction, and the fiscal impulse. And that two point 157 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 10: nine percent fall in residential activity takes residential activity as 158 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 10: reflected in. 159 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 5: This survey to ten year lows. 160 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 10: Now ASB Bank pointed out that the residential activity is 161 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 10: a better determinant of the construction sector momentum, So we 162 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 10: look to this number to provide evidence of recovery, and 163 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 10: I guess we have to sort of acknowledge THEAI. There 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 10: was pretty much a universal consensus that this activity, this 165 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 10: construction would have picked up by now, but it hasn't 166 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 10: happened yet. But his hoping, there's always Q three mic, 167 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 10: it's always cue. 168 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: There's there's always went and doubt, there's Q three. Now 169 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: spending are we spending right? We're about spending? 170 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: Well, we are a little bit. 171 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 10: So this is the A and Z card spending data. 172 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 10: They put this out monthly and it looks at trends 173 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 10: and spending in their A and Z ecosystem and they 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 10: say they are seeing some improvement. You have to look 175 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 10: quite hard, but it's there. So overall spending was up 176 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 10: zero four percent in August. So they report this on 177 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 10: a seasonally adjusted and a three month average basis to 178 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 10: try and smooth out the data bit. But spending is 179 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 10: up three percent compared to the same time last year, 180 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 10: and they comment that apart from the impact of lower 181 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 10: petrol prices, the more positive trends are emerging in card spending. 182 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 10: Even apparel, which hasn't been doing well, finally has its 183 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 10: nose above water. Authors point out that there is a 184 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 10: clear differation though, between the nice to haves and the 185 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 10: must haves, So we're spending more on the must haves 186 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 10: and the nice to haves are feeling it and hospitality 187 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 10: and are apparel of those two there. So this is 188 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 10: something that poor km d Brand and CapMan do a 189 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 10: battling against. So, yeah, they do a rough inflation adjustment 190 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 10: in this report, and it is sobering because it shows 191 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 10: that real spending inflations is pretty flat, so maybe we're 192 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 10: just spending more to stand still. And a good evidence 193 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 10: of that, though, is if you look in the in 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 10: their in their data for grocery and foods are spending, 195 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 10: it's up four point two percent, but food price inflation 196 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 10: is now running at five percent, So you know you're 197 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 10: actually going a tiny little bit back. Is they're just 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 10: looking at some of the details. Some interesting things here, Mike. 199 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 10: Pet shops, pet shops, they are going well, we're still 200 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 10: looking after the pets. And second hand stores are seeing 201 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 10: good growth. As there's a there's a comment there, isn't 202 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 10: it some places are tanking stationary. Nobody is buying stationary anymore, Mike. 203 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 10: And the other one that I thought, well is interesting 204 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 10: because there's a there's a whole topic here, isn't it? 205 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 10: Boos Owl shops sales continue to decline. We are getting 206 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 10: our kicks elsewhere. So I really like the data series, Mirke. 207 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 10: It's an actual treasure chest of information. The bottom line 208 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 10: is to end the week, there is the suggestion that 209 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 10: things are getting just a little bit better. 210 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: Thank the Good Lord for that. What are the numbers? 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 11: There? 212 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 10: You go the numbers so and the US markets looking 213 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 10: a little bit better overnight as well, your non fun 214 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 10: payrolls that'll be exciting this evening. The Dow Jones is 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 10: currently up three hundred and twenty eight points. It's almost 216 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 10: three quarters percent forty five thousand, six hundred. The S 217 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 10: and P five hundred is up point five six percent 218 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 10: thirty six points six four eighty four, and the Nasdaq 219 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 10: is up one hundred and twenty eight points point six 220 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 10: percent twenty one thousand, six hundred and twenty five now. 221 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 10: The fort to one hundred overnight gainedero point four two 222 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 10: percent nine two one six, the Nika one and a 223 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 10: half percent gain their six hundred and forty one points 224 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 10: forty two thousand, five hundred and eighty. The Shanghai Composite 225 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 10: down one on a quarter three seven sixty five. The 226 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 10: Aussie's gained one percent yesterday eighty eight points eight eight 227 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 10: two six, and then the next fifty is just keeps 228 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 10: keeps going up, Mike keeps going up. This We'll keep 229 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 10: an eye on this. Up to fifty eight points point 230 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 10: four five percent, thirteen thousand, one hundred and thirty three 231 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 10: dollar point five to eighty three six a little bit 232 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 10: weaker against the US and against the Ozzie. You know 233 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 10: this is interesting quint eight ninety six three snipped under 234 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 10: that point nine level. Got to keep an eye on 235 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 10: that as well. Against the Europe point five zero one 236 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 10: five point four to three four eight against the Pound 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 10: eighty six point seventy five Japanese again gold three thousand, 238 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 10: five hundred and forty three dollars and breakthrough sixty six 239 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 10: dollars and ninety nine sex. 240 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: You have a great work in a great dad's day, 241 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Andrew kellerherdjmowalth dot co dot n Z. As you now, 242 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: it's hot football NFL, NBC Universal highest grossing in terms 243 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: of advertising revenue to date, already sold ninety percent of 244 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: their ad inventory for Sunday Night Football. 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Draft Kings, 248 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: who are one of the big players in betting, record 249 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: numbers heading into the kickoff pre season bettings up thirty percent. 250 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: What cost of living crisis legal betting will grow this year, 251 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: They think by eight and a half percent to thirty 252 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: billion US dollars six twenty one at Newstalks edbla plan. 253 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: by News Talks EDB. 255 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: A couple of quick things, fun things. Berbery. I'm just 256 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: thinking of KMD and David Kirky's with us after seven o'clock. 257 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: CAMD is of course Katmandu. Twenty one stores, et cetera, 258 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: et cetera are Berbery who are also into clothing. They 259 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: struck trouble and they had a turnaround plan. The turnaround 260 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: plan has worked because they're going to be put back 261 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: on the foot see one hundred. They fell off the 262 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: foot Sea one hundred in London in September of last year, 263 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: so their turnaround plan is working. Meantime, the problem for 264 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: Porsche continues to grow. The tariffs are hitting. They've been 265 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: taken off the Decks, which is a glamour stock exchange 266 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: in Germany, and you want to be on the decks. 267 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: They're going to the secondary market because the tariffs are biting. 268 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: So it's an interesting time all over the world, isn't it. 269 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: Six twenty five. 270 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Trending now with Wymer Square House, You're one style for 271 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Father's Day. 272 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Fragrance. 273 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Now look at the Office. Did the original Office as 274 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: in Ricky Gervais came out in two thousand and one, 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: ran for just two seasons fourteen episodes. They spann it 276 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: off Stateside Steve Carell nine seasons, most stream show in 277 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: the world in twenty twenty. Didn't know that. So now 278 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: the bloke who adapted The Office for the US, Telly, 279 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: He's got to think called the paper. Now, that's the 280 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: story of a struggling newspaper in Ohio having to transform 281 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: to survive. 282 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: My name is Ned Samson. I am your new editor 283 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 5: in chief. 284 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Have you read this paper? 285 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 12: Huh? 286 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 13: How do you think it compares to any other paper? 287 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 5: It sucks, but we are going to make it better. 288 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 5: I hope it's not too disruptive to have me come 289 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 5: in and sort of shake everything up. 290 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, don't be so stops navigating. 291 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 5: How many of you have actually written for a paper before? 292 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: I wrote a paper in junior high not quite the 293 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: same thing you've tweeted. I'm in a group text. This 294 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: is terrific. Seven highly motivated, tenacious buck eyes are out 295 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: there hunting for news. You'd be a fool at against that. 296 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: I will make this unusable. 297 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 14: Use. 298 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: That here got potential launches on Sky. You get a 299 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: choice Sky on TV and Z Plus today Brassic by 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: the way, which I've fallen in love with them up 301 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: to season three. There are seven seasons. Season seven's about 302 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: to drop. It's the final. They wanted to go out 303 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: in the hide their choice, not the networks, which is 304 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: always a nice way to go. So that launches soon 305 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: as well. So if you haven't gott into that, you 306 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: might like to us a bit of time. Might just 307 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: too busy this weekend with the All Blacks and the 308 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: Formula one and the Warriors and all that sort of stuff. 309 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: When you get together with a meeting you haven't seen 310 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: the person for a while, Just just an open question 311 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: for you. When you get together with a person that 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: you haven't met for a while and your small talk 313 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: for the chit chat, is it unusual to talk about 314 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: immortality and organ transplants? At what point would organ transplants 315 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: and immortality come up, you know, just randomly? Was that 316 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: the weirdest thing in the world or not used for you? 317 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: In a couple of moments, then we'll get into the 318 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: health sector and arbitray. 319 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: The mist game in safeful engaging and Ideal, the Mike 320 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: togs had been. 322 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Started the show with RFK on the hill today, the Warren, 323 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: the Saunders and all of that. But that's before you 324 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: get to Florida, who are looking to drop mandates altogether. 325 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: Sir Richard Arnold s outside on that. Speaking of health generally, 326 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: twenty three to seven, another MESSI week for industrial relations. 327 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: Nurses took two days off of course, and now the 328 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: government has made in over senior doctors. They want mandatory 329 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: arbitration between Health in New Zealand and the union after 330 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: twelve months are basically going nowhere. Se mean Brown's a 331 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: Health minister of course, and us with us morning, good 332 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: morning mate. So they've got till four pm today to respond. 333 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: You're confident or not. 334 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 15: Look, I hope they do the right thing and support 335 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 15: binding arbitration. It's been twelve months of negotiation. There's been 336 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 15: the Employment Relations Authority involved facilitation. The latest offer was 337 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 15: rejected by the union on Monday and they then immediately 338 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 15: ballot it started balancing their staff for another strike later 339 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 15: this month. Ultimately, they would mean more key we's missing 340 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 15: out on the care that they are entitled to, and 341 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 15: so I'm asking both parties to agree to binding arbitration 342 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 15: to resolve this issue so you can move forward and 343 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 15: put patients first. 344 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: The gap, as you understand it is that gargantub been 345 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: large small. Is there a problem or not? 346 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 15: Well, Look, I think the union's put a very very 347 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 15: significant request on the table. Health new Zealand has tried 348 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 15: to address those with a range of issues They've tried 349 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 15: to put try to address a range of the union's 350 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 15: issues such as retention and hard to staff hospitals with 351 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 15: payments to staff who work in those more regional, remote areas. 352 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 15: They've addressed issues such as junior doctors becoming senior doctors 353 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 15: effectively currently get a pay cut, removing those bottom bands 354 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 15: so that those doctors progress in their pay and increases 355 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 15: in the bands over time as well. So Health new 356 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 15: Zealand's tried to address that with the offer it's been rejected, 357 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 15: and so ultimately the way forward in my view and 358 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 15: the government's view, is to have binding arbitration so that 359 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 15: both parties can come together. Independent arbitrator determines the case 360 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 15: and puts forward a recommendation which both parties are then 361 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 15: bound by. 362 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Can't remember, but it was this year. What was the 363 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: other one you were involved with. Was it the nurses 364 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: that went off to arbitration. 365 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 15: Well, the nurses have had facilitation and they've had health museums. 366 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 15: I've been working through that with them. They've strike that 367 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 15: has been strikes this week. I've been encouraging both parties 368 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 15: to get back to the bargaining table, which I understand 369 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 15: they will following yesterday's strikes, which is the right thing 370 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 15: to do. Ultimately, my key message is striking is not 371 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 15: the answer. Striking impacts patients who have already been waiting 372 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 15: far too long for the care that they need. We 373 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 15: have too many people waiting too long for elective surgeries 374 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 15: such as hips, knees, cataracts. We've made good progress this year. 375 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 15: Those wait lists are coming down, which is fantastic and 376 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 15: his testament to the hard working doctors, nurses, surgeons. But 377 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 15: we have to keep putting patients first, settle these disputes 378 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 15: and move forward in the best interests of patients. 379 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: Why don't we just have laws that say you get 380 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: two cracks, four cracks, whatever, and after that you're off 381 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: to mediation full stop. 382 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 15: Well, I think there certainly is a need to look 383 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 15: at this, and I know that the Minister of Public Services, 384 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 15: Judith Collins, is looking at a range of things in 385 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 15: this space. But what I'm doing is what I can 386 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 15: with the powers that exists and effectively trying to persuade 387 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 15: both parties to come to the table agree to a 388 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 15: process which then binds them to an outcome so we 389 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 15: can move forward in the best interests of patients. 390 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: You're losing the political debate on this because health is 391 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: supposed to be off the political radar and it isn't. 392 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 15: Look I think what we're trying to do here is 393 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 15: find a way through. We are making good progress for 394 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 15: patients this year. We're seeing those wait lists drop, but 395 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 15: ultimately my key message to the unions is striking isn't 396 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 15: the answer. We need to find a way through this, 397 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 15: and that's what I'm putting on the table. 398 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: I have a good weekend. Appreciate it. Health Minister Simeon Brown, 399 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: the Judith Colin things interesting you probably it wasn't covered properly. 400 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: But defense has changed. They change or will change the 401 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: law on defense so military can now serve in administrative 402 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: roles if there is a strike. And Labour's been asking 403 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: a lot of questions in the House of late over. 404 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: You know, are you going to change the laws around striking? 405 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: So something is afoot and if it is, that's good. 406 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: I probably don't have time to talk to Judith about 407 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: it after seven o'clock, but maybe if time allows, will 408 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: give it a crack, because we've got the war to 409 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: deal with. Nineteen two seven Pasky Weld on Littleton Port 410 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: Record result this christ you city owned, of course, but 411 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: it's up sixty two percent. I like a good story. 412 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: Revenues up six point eight percent. Container volumes actually down, 413 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: but the fertilizer in the grain is moving up significantly, 414 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: and that's always a good story. So anyone who's doing 415 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: well is in my good books. 416 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: Nineteen two The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on 417 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio by News Talk Zippy. 418 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: Bit of social media ranks in the last twenty four hours. 419 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: I'll come back to the Murray party thing. But this 420 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: time yesterday I think I was telling you about Mike Joy, 421 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: the Heads of the Water guy, and he talked about 422 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: hanging dairy industry CEOs and this bit of anks around 423 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: all of that, and yesterday the sea was doubling down. 424 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: Yesterday wasn't going to apologize, but somebody got to him. 425 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: So by the end of the day he'd apologized sixteen to. 426 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 16: Two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of 427 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business. 428 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: Which should I do? Morning to you? 429 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 12: What you like? 430 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: What are shambles that was on there? 431 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 17: Indeed you might be forgiven for asking for meds. And 432 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 17: after listening to three hours of this stuff, this health 433 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 17: policy hearing where RFK Junior, the Health Secretary, was grilled 434 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 17: over his vaccine skepticism, what's to be made of it? 435 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 17: I don't know. This was the most combative hearing of 436 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 17: recent times, and that is saying a deal, isn't it. 437 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 17: There were personal slams and accusations of lying, a barrage 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 17: of attacks on Kennedy. Here to a sample, starting with 439 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 17: Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren. You know, with the new COVID 440 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 17: vaccine about to be rolled out the US government, who 441 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 17: is recommending coverage shots only for certain people, those over 442 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 17: sixty five or those with a risk of severe illness. 443 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 17: Others might need a doctor's prescription and they have to 444 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 17: pay for that plus hundred and forty bucks US for 445 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 17: the vaccine, so says Larren. 446 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 6: Taking them away from people. 447 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 17: Senator, it takes it away if you can't get it 448 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 17: from your pharmacy. 449 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 4: Well, most Americans are going to be able to get 450 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: it from their pharmacy. 451 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: Four free dollars. You know what you're talking about? 452 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: The UIRI has it to the health of the American people? 453 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 5: I think that you are resigned. 454 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 17: Yeah, it was not only Democrats who were lashing RFK. 455 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 17: Republican Senator Bill Cassidy is actually the one who's last 456 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 17: minute vote brought Kennedy's confirmation when he got the job. 457 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 17: He is now raising concern about the availability of vaccines. 458 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 17: Cassidy is a doctor as well. 459 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: I was effectively we're denying people vaccine. 460 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 6: I hate Senator cat Well. 461 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 7: I ain't it wrong. 462 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 17: I You're wrong, says RFK at the end there. But 463 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 17: the question is not resolved, is it. Republican Senator Tom 464 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 17: Tillis also is raising doubts about the RFK approach. Queen 465 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 17: Trump said the other day, Trump had his eye maybe 466 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 17: a Nobel Prize for medicine as well as the Nobel 467 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 17: Peace Prize, the medical one. He said yes for backing 468 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 17: the push for the COVID vaccine when it first hit through. 469 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 17: What was known as Operation Warp Speed. Trump wrote, quote, 470 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 17: many people think they are a miracle that saved millions 471 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 17: of lives. Others disagreed. What's the truth he wanted? RFK 472 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 17: says he thinks Trump yeah, should be given a Nobel Prize, 473 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 17: while previously he called the COVID vaccine the deadliest ever made. 474 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 17: So confused, yet are we all? This also ties into 475 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 17: the politics of the sacking of Susan Monaroz as head 476 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 17: of the CDCV Centers for Disease Control. She wrote an 477 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 17: op ed for The Wall Street Journal today saying RFK 478 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 17: had asked her to pre approve any vaccine recommendations of 479 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 17: his newly appointed vaccine reviewed team. She said she refused 480 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 17: to do that. RFK says she's lying and that he 481 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 17: sacked her because she told him she could not be trusted, adding. 482 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: We have the sickest country in the world. That's why 483 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 6: we have to fire people of the CDC. 484 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 17: Bottom line, Republican discontent with rakare growing this hearing. Did 485 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 17: ZIP to clear things up? 486 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: You got a ticket? 487 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 17: No, maybe you know when it hits another few few 488 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 17: zillion dollars. But those responsible for this country's biggest lottery, 489 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 17: the powerble or seeing the jackpot's spiking. It's now at 490 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 17: one point seven billion with a B dollars that is 491 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 17: two point nine billion New Zealand. You get a bit 492 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 17: under half of that if you take the lump some 493 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 17: if you winnes this thing. But as ever, your chances 494 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 17: are about the being being hit by lightning twice before breakfast. 495 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 17: This is not the biggest loto prize ever here, but 496 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 17: it's getting them. Previously the record stood at forty one drawings. 497 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 17: This is the forty second week. Next go round is Sunday, 498 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 17: your time, but at two bucks to play, we're in 499 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 17: the sick yet again, a lottery fever, although some say 500 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 17: this is less a game of chance than a national tax. 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, have a good one. But Richard Arnold back on Monday, Florida. 502 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of those mandates, the Florida surge 503 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: in general, somebody called Joseph Lopardo, he'd like in mandates 504 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: to slavery. Who am I to tell you what your 505 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: child should put in your body? I don't have that right. 506 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: Your body is a gift from God. So they don't 507 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: know what they haven't said when they're going to drop 508 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: the mandates. Currently, you've got to be this for public 509 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: schools and kids. You've got to be vaccinated for chicken pox, 510 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: appatitis B, measles, mumps, and polio. But they're looking to 511 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: be the first state to drop all mandates. Meantime, interesting 512 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: and it's well worth following. This is the New York 513 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: mederal race where the extreme liberal, the guy called Mendani, 514 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: is in the lead. So much so there are four 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 2: in the race. Trump backs Cuomo, which is interesting because 516 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: Quoma is just a shister and a crook. But anyway, 517 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: the incumbent Adams, and there's another guy called slee one. 518 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: So the story yesterday was that the administration, the Trump 519 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: administration were going to offer Adams and Sleeward jobs somewhere else, 520 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: like ambassadorships, pull them out of the race because the 521 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: vote's being split. So this guy Mandani is going to 522 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: come down the middle and just have it. Cuomo v. Mandami. 523 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: When they went head to head, of course for the 524 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: Democratic nod, Quomo lost to Mindami. So we'll see they 525 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: all the night. But you know how New York goes, 526 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: so we'll see what seems to see how that all 527 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: one folds. Ten minutes away from. 528 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Seven, the Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities 529 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: News Togsdad. 530 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: Be ARMANI ninety one. That's good long life, isn't it? 531 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: First designed to ban underweight models from the runway when 532 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: that particular topic became a thing. Paul Smith, his continuity 533 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: is down to earth nature. His staying power and remaining 534 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: as an unlisted independent company has always been a huge 535 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: inspiration for me personally. I thought that was nice Maloney 536 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: as an prime minister, with his elegant sobriety and creativity, 537 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: he was able to bring luster to Italian fashion and 538 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: inspire the entire world in icon a tireer's worker, a 539 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: symbol of the best of Italy. Thank you for everything 540 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: that's nice. He put women in a uniform of suits 541 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: just as radical as Chanel. That was the Financial Times 542 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: concern over his health first expressed in June this year. 543 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: A Miss Milan directed a couture show in Paris just 544 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: recently in July. But he did that remotely from his 545 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: home in Milan, so he was working from home as well. 546 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Everyone's doing it. If you didn't know anything about fashion, 547 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: you still knew about Georgia Omary. That's true, isn't it. 548 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: I started a career in medicine, actually moved to fashion 549 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: in the sixties, set up his own label. In seventy five, 550 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: he owned the Olympia Milano basketball team, did a partnership 551 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: with Scuderia as in Ferrari. Char Leclair spoke very nicely, 552 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: A great honor to have had the chance to meet 553 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: and work with such an amazing person. I bought an 554 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: Amari T shirt, very nice one, I thought one day 555 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: in I think it was Hawaii, and at the time 556 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: my wife was with me, and she said, that's fantastic. 557 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: Let's buy that because it was very expensive. And I 558 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: still have it and I still wear it, and every 559 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: time I wear it, she says, why have you still 560 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: got that? It's ugly ass. And that's what happens in 561 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: my fashion life. I do have a jacket though, in 562 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: Amari jacket, a leather jacket, beautiful deep blue one that 563 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: don't wear very often, but every time I wear it, 564 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: they go, oh my god, isn't that beautiful? So fashion 565 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: stands the test of time, unless it's a T shirt, 566 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: of course, then you're not allowed to wear it anymore. 567 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven. 568 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: All the inns and the outs, it's the Bears with 569 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: business time, take your business productivity to the next level. 570 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Consumer and Z they've got the yearly survey of best 571 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: and worst brands. I don't know how dodgy this is. 572 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: It's consumer members based on their own experiences, so it's 573 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: opt in. I don't think they give you a list 574 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: of all they just tell you. You know who's so anyway, 575 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: here's what they've got, one hundred percent Home appliances. They've 576 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: been number one in large whiteware and appliances small appliance 577 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: categories for eleven years, so you can't argue with that. 578 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: Smith City number two don't mean much, does it now? Really? 579 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: PB Tech best Home Tech and Mobile Still Shop always 580 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: number one. We love still Shop. God, I love the 581 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: still Shop hardware category. They win every year. It's embarrassing. 582 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: MI to ten are number two and hardware but for 583 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: the top five overall macpack top and Sports and Outdoor category, 584 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: which is interesting giving Katmandu's story, So maybe that's there's 585 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: a Macpac thing. There still a Macpac. By the way, 586 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: highest customer satisfaction rating of ninety four percent, Still had 587 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: the most eligible stuff. Every retailer should look at still 588 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: to see what they do. I've never been into a 589 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: still shop. It's the owner operator thing. I've never been 590 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: into a steel shop in my life, and I've been 591 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: into a lot where they are literally scientifically brilliant at 592 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: what they do in terms of knowledge of the product. 593 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 18: Do all the wise you've been in to have a 594 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 18: peete and a duty. 595 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: They've got them all. Pete and Judy everyone they have to. 596 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: You have to if you own a still shop, that 597 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: you have to be called peak and Judy. That's a rule. 598 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I thought everyone knew that anyway. The point being when 599 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: your next go to a restaurant and say what are 600 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: the vegetables of the day, and they look at you 601 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: blankly and go, I'll have to ask you know, still shop. 602 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: I learned that lesson a long time ago. So well 603 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: done to Still In no particular order. Down the bottom 604 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: five Rebel Sport one, New Zealand Spark. You can't be 605 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: a tech company and be successful, can you. There is 606 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: no way you can be a tech company because everyone 607 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: hates you. The warehouse there's the story OPSM not liked, 608 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: but that's because people like spectators for some reason. I 609 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. It's specsators. Far from that 610 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: promotion where they say you can buy two pairs for 611 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: one ninety nine, and then you go to buy the 612 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: two pairs for one ninety nine and things become slightly 613 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: more complicated than your thoughts, speaking from personal experience. Now 614 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: after the news, we'll go to Kiev and actually I 615 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: think she's in London now, Judith Collins, are we going 616 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: to be boots on the ground? Is that part of 617 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: our whole meeting overnight? So we'll talk to Judith about that. 618 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: Cody Taylor, he's got a busy weekend lined up. He's 619 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: with us after seven point thirty Mazari. 620 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: News Opinion and everything in between the mic hosting breakfast 621 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: with Rainthrover leading by example News Tom Stead. 622 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: Be seven past seven. So the great illegal immigration debates 623 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: finally arrived on New Zealand shores. We have they say 624 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: about twenty one thousand overstays or people shouldn't be here. Tonga, 625 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: China and the US are your top offenders apparently, so 626 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: the government's now change of the law crackdowns on we're 627 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: linking crime and deportation, with the limit going from ten 628 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: years to twenty years. Steve Watson's GM of Compliance and 629 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Investigations at Immigration New Zealand And is with us. Good morning, 630 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. There's twenty one thousand ish number that 631 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: we've got. How rock solid is that? Do we actually 632 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: know what we're dealing with or not? 633 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 7: Yes, Yes we do. The previous estimate was based on 634 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 7: from twenty seventeen, was based on data that was the 635 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 7: best we had at the time. But the current estimate 636 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 7: we have spent a lot of time cleaning the data, 637 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 7: things like removing people who have become citizens, so we've 638 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 7: cross checked with other agencies people who have subsequently become lawful. 639 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 7: And also with one point six million border movements, there 640 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 7: will be some errors and we've done a really good 641 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 7: job in correcting. Say, for example, people who come on 642 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 7: dual passports arright on one and left on another. 643 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: You've got information sharing and is it good information sharing? 644 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: Would somebody who's a bit dodgy trigger somebody somewhere? 645 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 646 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 7: We For example criminality, we get referrals from police where 647 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 7: a person on a temporary visa or a person who's 648 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 7: unlawfy in New Zealand has committed a crime and we 649 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 7: would then commence a case to deal with that. Likewise, 650 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 7: with corrections where people are in prison, people serve their 651 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 7: sentences and then are deported straight from prison. 652 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: Right, That's why I'm asking the question. Is it just 653 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: crime that triggers it? Or could you be in the 654 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: country illegally and you could do that forever unless you 655 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: come inder crime? No one's finding it. 656 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 7: No, we have a number of other good methods of 657 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 7: finding people. We work with a lot of other government departments. 658 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 7: We have a good investigative techniques with our frontline staff, 659 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 7: and we also have our own data that we are 660 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 7: getting much much better at interrogating and being much better 661 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 7: at data driven. 662 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Is this going to be a what is this design 663 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: to do apart from clean up a few scumbags? Is 664 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: that essentially what it's about? Or is it a chilling 665 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: effect that if you come to the country illegally, you 666 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: just don't want to go around committing a crime. 667 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 7: So we take our roles regulators very seriously, and there 668 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 7: is an absolute obligation on anyone who comes to New 669 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 7: Zealand to comply with the terms of their visa, which 670 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 7: includes leaving before the expiry of that visa. We expect 671 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 7: people to do that, and we have a number of 672 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 7: different ways of connecting with people, so we do connect 673 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 7: with people before the expiry of their visa to tell 674 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 7: them to go home. Sometimes some of my team, all 675 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 7: that's needed is for them to speak to someone who's 676 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 7: become unlawful and they will just depart at their own costs, 677 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 7: which of course as the best outcome. 678 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, have a good week in Steve, Steve, 679 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: what's out of immigration New Zealand? Ten minutes past seven? 680 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: The war where the Coalition to the Willing have held 681 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: another of these meetings over night. That's talk about a 682 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: support and d mining. I'll come to that in the moment, 683 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: but it comes after the visit of course to Ukraine 684 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: by our defenseman, as to Judith Collins who was in 685 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: Key to meet with her Ukrainian counterpart, among other things, 686 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: and the Judith Collins is with us morning, our good morning. 687 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Mat Just out of that meeting, Macron said, of the 688 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: thirty five that were in the meeting overnight, twenty six 689 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: have committed to troops. Are we one of them? 690 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 11: Well, I wasn't in the meeting, and I the primary 691 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 11: very clear that any such commitment would need to go 692 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 11: through Cambinate, and it definitely hasn't gone through Campitate. So 693 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 11: I can't add any water. 694 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: Would he be in a position at the meeting if 695 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: we are one of the twenty six to say, you know, 696 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: due process included where part of it could be part 697 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: of it or not. 698 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 11: Well, I think the speculating the problem is that and 699 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 11: I have over the last your ever since this started 700 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 11: these meetings, tried to attend them and to be part 701 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 11: of those discussions. But he's been very clear to me 702 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 11: that any such decision would have to go through Kebinant 703 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 11: as it said, it hasn't okay. 704 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: What's your sense of what you saw is is this 705 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: thing grinding on forever or is something material going to 706 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: happen soon? 707 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 11: Well, I think the fact that there is three and 708 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 11: a half years into what Russia thought was a three 709 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 11: day war tells you that New Kraines not giving in. 710 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 11: They do, however, want to cease fire. They do, how 711 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 11: even wants to stopped. They do care about their people, 712 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 11: unlike persons, and they do worry that they have people 713 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 11: being sorted and as I saw and Kiev people being 714 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 11: killed in residential properties, apartment blocks with missiles coming in, 715 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 11: you know, just appalling behavior from Russia and thank the 716 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 11: war crime after war crime. 717 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: Yes, anddeed. But that's the problem, isn't it. There was 718 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: a time when Kiev wasn't hitting, you were relatively safe 719 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: from Keev and that's no longer the case, which might 720 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 2: indicate that Russia's on the offensive and something needs to happen. 721 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Do you get that sense? 722 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 18: Me? 723 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 11: Well, I think what's really clear is that it was 724 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 11: this particular ballistic missile that and I saw some of 725 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 11: its handywork, and that has been launched fourteen hundreds kilometers away. 726 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 11: I think that the Ukrainians are very staunch people. They 727 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 11: love the fact that they have support from places as 728 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 11: far as wars US, but they are also they have 729 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 11: listened to President Trump, they've listened to Presence Mathmoon and 730 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 11: the others involved in discussions, and they want to get 731 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 11: the sorted. The problem is so far Susan has let 732 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 11: deadlines go past, and he's simply increased what he's doing. 733 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 11: He's got troops in more career there now, he's clearly 734 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 11: supported in the war in many ways by China. I mean, 735 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 11: it's a difficult situation, and I think that there's a 736 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 11: lot riding on those discussions between the US and the 737 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 11: NATO partners, plus also countries like Australia and. 738 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: Ourselves appreciate your time. Trouble well due to the colins 739 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: the Defense Minister. So a question obviously for Reluxant on 740 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: Monday form. Somebody doesn't get to him sooner. I would 741 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: have thought someone would ask the question by now given 742 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: and he's in a meeting, and maybe we've made a commitment, 743 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: maybe we haven't. Thirteen passed the Mike Asking Breakfast Fall 744 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b 745 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: News Talks have seventeen past seven Cody Taylor after seven thirty. 746 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: By the way, it's been a week where bricks and 747 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: mortars reminded us of the grind and retail fortune favors. 748 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: They were closing until Garage Project came along and saved it. 749 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: Last week kitchen things hit the wall. Of course, Smith's 750 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: City in the hands of the accountants now and we've 751 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 2: got katiem km D brands. They're looking to close twenty 752 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: one stores. David Kirk's the chairman of KMD and is 753 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: with us David Morning, I Catman, Do Rip Curl and 754 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: O Boss. Is there any delineation between the three or 755 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: all three struggling? 756 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 19: They're all They're all they're talk to tough environment for 757 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 19: all companies. Obos is mostly exposed to the US, it's 758 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 19: a US company, and the other two are exposed to 759 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 19: Australasian domestic spending and consumer spending. So yeah, it's a 760 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 19: tough environment for all of them. 761 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: Is spending tough everywhere in the world or everywhere you are, 762 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: or is New Island and the outlier, No. 763 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 19: It's tough everywhere. The greatest uncertainty actually is in the 764 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 19: United States. Things are it's all over the place over there, 765 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 19: and New Zealand is tough, and probably New Zealand is 766 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 19: a little bit. 767 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: Tougher than in Australia. 768 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 19: I think there's a little bit more optimism coming through 769 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 19: in Australia, but I'm sure we'll get there in New Zealand. 770 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: What's your sense of your model the way you do 771 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: business versus the economy in other words, it affects everyone. 772 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 19: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean we are a 773 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 19: people talk about as discretionary retail. In other words, people 774 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 19: can decide whether they buy or they don't, and when 775 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 19: they're when they're you know, wallets are a bit tight 776 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 19: and straight to being high. For quite a period that's 777 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 19: been difficult for people, then they don't exercise their discretion 778 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 19: and buy the sorts of products that we sell to. 779 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 19: It does depend on which part of the market you're in. 780 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 19: People have to buy food, you know, if your kitchen 781 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 19: appliants breaks, you have to have to replace it, but 782 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 19: they really don't have to go out and buy an 783 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 19: insulation jacket or a raincoat or a wet suit. So 784 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 19: we are genuinely discretionary and in difficult times people hang 785 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 19: on to their money. 786 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 2: What about the seasonality when you have a bad winter, 787 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: bad summer, et cetera, that's beyond your control. Is that real? 788 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? 789 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: That is real. That is definitely real. 790 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 19: But we try not to focus on that as as 791 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 19: something that's that we make excuses for. But we did 792 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 19: have a very warm lead into winter this year and 793 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 19: then we had a good, decent cold winter. So it 794 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 19: does make a big difference, particularly for cat Mandu, because 795 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 19: you know, we provide gear that's used in cold weather 796 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 19: or in rainy weather, and similarly to some extent for Ripical. 797 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 19: You know, people don't get to the beach if it's 798 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 19: pouring with range or they don't need to replace their 799 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 19: wet suit or buy some swim weear. 800 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: I was reading an article on AU Finance this morning 801 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: that called you an iconic ossie retailer. What happened there? 802 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 19: You mean calling called candy brands and iconic? Yeah, well, 803 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 19: I think the business is much bigger in Australia now 804 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 19: than it is in New Zealand. 805 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: Formed David christ Jute For goodness sake. 806 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 19: Yes, CapMan Do. But Mike, there's three brands now. There's 807 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 19: CapMan Do, there's Rep Curl and Obo's. And that's actually 808 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 19: really important because we get that seasonal diversification. We've got 809 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 19: summer around Winterka. 810 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: You excited about the rugby? You buying into this fifty 811 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: years Eden Park? Oh my god, we're not as good 812 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: as we used to be. The South African is going 813 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: to kill us thing. 814 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 19: Well, I don't buy the last part of that. I 815 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 19: think it's pretty exciting though, to have a long record 816 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 19: to defend at Eden Park, and I think that creates 817 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 19: for a lot of interest, and I'm very bought into 818 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 19: creating interest for rugby. I think we're going to be 819 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 19: killed all I think it's gonna be really interesting game 820 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 19: and I think we had a good chance of winning. 821 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: Good on, You're nice to talk to you appreciate it. 822 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: David Kirk, chairman of These Days of km D brands. 823 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: According to au Financer, an iconic Izzie retailer seven twenty 824 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: Mike the Week in a Moment. 825 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio 826 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks b. 827 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 13: Now. 828 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's the little letras that make shopping 829 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: even better. 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It's more fun 848 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: than a chat about immortality. The Chinese for eight. 849 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 14: I thought it was a beautiful ceremony. 850 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 3: I thought it was very, very impressive. 851 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: I mean, forget the politics as a thing, as a spectacle, 852 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 2: as a can you believe how in time those goose 853 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 2: Steppers are. It was spellbinding Clark, Key, Andrews and Carbo four. 854 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: On balance, given what it was really about, I think 855 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 2: it was a mistake being there. Trump and courts two's, 856 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean, worst week yet. I got them zero for 857 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: five this week, deporting to Guatemala, sacking people, the National Guard, 858 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: tariffs are now. Harvard Supreme Court better come up big time. 859 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: Trump's death too. No, it's very active over the weekend, 860 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: sad reminder of just how thick, gallible and worryingly naive 861 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: some people are. And that's before, by the way, you 862 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: get to the morons who thought Taylor had DMed Eden 863 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: Park as a wedding venue. I'm not kidding. I watched 864 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: this yesterday. There are people who thought Taylor had directly 865 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 2: dm Eden Park as a wedding venue. Bonds and yields 866 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: three get on top of this one. Debts finally started 867 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: to come home to roost. From Britain to Japan, people 868 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: are worried, and the people who are worried to the 869 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: sort of people who crash markets. Teacher's seven and increase 870 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: in enrollments just wait till the unions get hold of 871 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 2: them and kill the buzz. Though Neil quickly six did 872 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: the right thing. Eventually AWS seven on behalf of too 873 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: much of the New Zealand media. Can I say sorry 874 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: for the obsessive negativity and remind you not all of 875 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: us are like them? David Seymour seven. 876 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 12: Conscious that there are non Auckland listeners on the show, 877 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 12: so I apologize to them. 878 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 2: He is right about Paris, and more people know it 879 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 2: then will publicly ever admit it. Wind won from parks 880 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: to bridges to doors winds this week's display of modern 881 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: day fear driven by obsessives who no longer can think 882 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: logically for themselves. Reese Walsh six. Personally, I didn't find 883 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: it funny, but it hardly needed the tut tutting it got. 884 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's twenty three in a league player, He's 885 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: not Michael McIntyre and the Warriors. Six. Let's send it properly, 886 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 2: keep our fingers cross and hopefully enjoy the forum if 887 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: we beat the Seagles one hundred and fifty one nell 888 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: and don't rule that out. Foreign house is foreign House 889 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: adjustment seven common sense made more difficult than it ever 890 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 2: needed to be, really, but we got there in the end, 891 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: and we the tammicky by election two. I mean, is 892 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: this the most pitiful display of disinterest in modern democracy? 893 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: If you thought port Way Kata was bad, this thing's 894 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: going to look to head it out of the park 895 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: as of the parks open. And that's the week copies 896 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: on the website. And if you cut this out, by 897 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: the way, the right shape and color is sort of 898 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 2: a pinkish kind of color, you can in fact practice 899 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: your own organ transplant. Asking got the good word. No, 900 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: we were not one of the twenty six out of 901 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: the coalition of the willing. Over night thirty five and 902 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: the meeting twenty six committed to troops on the ground 903 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: upon a deal. Our official position is we are waiting 904 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 2: for the peace deal to be sorted. When and if 905 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: a peace deal is ever sorted, at that point, we 906 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: will have a word with Cabinet. So Judith was right. 907 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: I got that confirmation from slightly higher up from Judith. 908 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: No names mentioned, but nevertheless we can indeed confirm that 909 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: we weren't one of the twenty six. Now, the other 910 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: thing I can confirm is a number of you asked 911 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 2: the question morning, Mike, what are your thoughts on Matthew 912 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: Houghton's column this morning? Bruce, Let me come back to that, Mike. 913 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: Did you read Hooton's piece in the Herald? Anything in it? 914 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: Do you think? 915 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 12: Mark? 916 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: These are very good question. So we've done the homework. 917 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: We've done the research behind the scenes. Bullshit was one 918 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: of the answers we got. But I'll expand on that 919 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: after the news, after Cody Taylor, Who's next? You're in 920 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast. 921 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 3: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. 922 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfait with Bailey's Real Estate, covering all 923 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: your real estate needs. 924 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: Use togs head be. 925 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: I lad have found an article yesterday to impart answer 926 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: my question, because if you haven't seen the video of 927 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: the Venezuelan drug boat being a viscerated, and that's the 928 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: only word for it. It wasn't his bomb. It was completely 929 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: a viscerated. This week, Trump referred to it in a 930 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 2: press conference of the White House. He said, we've just 931 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: shot some people out of the water, so stand by 932 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: for that. And it's a fantastic video. And I thought 933 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: at the time, it's unusual to see boats are viscerated 934 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 2: like that. I wonder if that's legal, And I thought 935 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 2: before I sort of looked into it the article came out, 936 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: was it legal? I thought, I must read that one. 937 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: As it turns out it probably wasn't. But then it's 938 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: not a signatory the US to the United Nations Convention 939 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: on the Law of the Sea, so that gets them 940 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 2: out of it. Under the conventions, countries agree not to 941 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: interfere with vessels operating in international waters. There are limited exceptions. 942 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: It allows a state to seize the ship that's in 943 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: hot pursuit. So they didn't really seize it, didn't really 944 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 2: make any attempt to seize it. They just blew it up. 945 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: Force can be used to stop a boat, but generally 946 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: this should not be lethal. This was pretty lethal. Have 947 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: a look at it. You'll not doubt for a moment 948 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: how lethal it was. 949 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 18: Yeah. I think the eleven people on board found it 950 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 18: pretty lethal. 951 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: Pretty lethal. Under Article two Brackets four of the UN Charter, 952 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 2: countries can resort to force. Went under attack, So I 953 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: don't think America was under attack, although he probably used 954 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: that line actually as for probably call. 955 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 18: An emergency on the way to kill American. 956 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be right, So that'll be his Argument's goy 957 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: called Michael Becker, Professor Michael Becker, Trinity College, US. Action 958 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: stretches the meaning of the term beyond breaking point. But ultimately, 959 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: once you've gone through that worked out that chances are 960 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: it was illegal. The big question, and this is the 961 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: I added politic at the moment, the big question is 962 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 2: who's going to do anything about it? Twenty two to 963 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: eight Right, as far as hype goes, Tim Katy after it. 964 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of height, as far as hype 965 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: goes tomorrow, no shortage of noise around it. All Blacks 966 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: of your South Africa, both sides have lost. But the 967 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: edentharch thing that's that's a thing, so all to play for. 968 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: As they say, Cody Taylor, great can Tabri and an 969 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: all black hooker is back with us. Good morning, Good 970 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 2: morning mane. 971 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 14: How's it going all right? 972 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: Well, now listen before we get to the weekend, just 973 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: talk me through Argentina a little bit. This two week 974 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: on two week off thing. Does that work for you? 975 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 14: Ah? Oh? It makes it. 976 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 6: So it's good for the body. 977 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 14: And as you're playing two big tests and then you 978 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 14: sort of have a week off and then I get 979 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 14: stuck into another two tests. But it's been like that 980 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 14: for a week while now, so yeah, it's not too bad. 981 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: And how much time we spent on what happened in Argentina? 982 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: And when did you move past sat and focus on 983 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: this week? 984 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 14: We got together on Sunday. It was obviously a long 985 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 14: week at home for everyone on the back of a 986 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 14: pretty tough loss. And yeah, we had a good look 987 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 14: in the mirror and covered everything on Sunday and then 988 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 14: obviously looking forward to Monday and the week that is, 989 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 14: because this is a big one too. 990 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: It is do you guys, by the way, do you 991 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: break up in between go back home? 992 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 17: Yeah? 993 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 14: Yeah, so this is a long long six days at 994 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 14: home and what do you do well personally, just you're 995 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 14: back with the family and be present there and so 996 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 14: tip awaut some training and then yeah, just do what 997 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 14: I need to to come and ready to go again 998 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 14: for another couple of weeks. 999 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 2: And what have you got on this Australia South Africa thing? 1000 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: I mean, have you personally followed that closely? And what 1001 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: do you make of what happened there? 1002 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 14: Yeah? We were and Argie watching those games is in 1003 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 14: a good time. I think you know, Australia really played well. 1004 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 14: You know, they're a well got galvanized team on the 1005 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 14: back of a lion series and you could see that 1006 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 14: in that first Test against South Africa and they went 1007 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 14: close again in the second. South Africa fixed a few 1008 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 14: things obviously got the result. But it just goes to 1009 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 14: show that, you know, this competition is pretty tight. 1010 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 2: And is it tighter than you thought? You can see 1011 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: if I'd asked you out to know four weeks ago 1012 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: before the whole comp began, would you have thought you 1013 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 2: know something different? 1014 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 14: Personally? No, I think you know we lost the Ard 1015 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 14: last year. You know, a couple played ozziec and then 1016 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 14: we lost to South Africa. Last year too, So it's 1017 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 14: always close and that's the way you want to us 1018 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 14: as a Test footy but as all blacks, we need 1019 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 14: to be better and that's what we're struggling to be see. 1020 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: I can't see. That's what I can't work out, whether 1021 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: Australia is significantly better than we thought or South Africa 1022 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 2: is off the pace a bit. 1023 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 14: I think South Africa is still a great team. You know, 1024 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 14: they really have their own identity of how they want 1025 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 14: to play and they've playing like that for the last 1026 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 14: four plus years. You're just gonna be able to stop it. 1027 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 14: And they've little bit of innovation. And then Australia, you know, 1028 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 14: on the back of you know, they've got some good 1029 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 14: coaching over there and they've got great talent I think, 1030 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 14: and we're seeing them play well on the Test arena. 1031 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, so how much of this weekend for you 1032 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: guys is about you know, going about your business versus 1033 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of the old you know, they added 1034 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: something given the record so far the season and the 1035 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 2: South Africans and the s Eden Park record. 1036 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's there's everything on the line really this week. 1037 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 14: You know, we're well aware of Eden Park and and 1038 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 14: We're well aware of South Africa's desperations to probably do 1039 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 14: a job there. So yeah, this is what it's all about. 1040 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 14: As an all back, this is where you want to be. 1041 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 14: You know, walk towards that pressure or you don't. So 1042 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 14: it's been a really good week so far and yeah, 1043 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 14: looking forward to getting into it. 1044 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: How do you handle pressure's pressure of things? 1045 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 6: For you? 1046 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 14: It is I think everyone anyone will be lying if 1047 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 14: they said they didn't feel it in the game. I 1048 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 14: think you know, we've It's something that you've got to 1049 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 14: deal with and you've got to You got to make a. 1050 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: Choice with it. 1051 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 14: You sort of step to it or you don't. And 1052 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 14: it really is only one choice in test footy because 1053 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 14: if you don't step up, then you get found out. 1054 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 2: And what do you expect of the South Africans? I mean, 1055 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: what have you talked about this week? What do they bring? 1056 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 14: I think, well, they know the way they want to play. 1057 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 14: Their physical men. When they get down in your health, 1058 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 14: they're going to try and beat you and then they 1059 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 14: use the set piece to build a good platform for 1060 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 14: their backs that can also play. They've got some great 1061 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 14: skilled players in their team and they've got a lot 1062 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 14: of variations. So they're a tough team to preview, but 1063 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 14: atin the day it's just about physicality and turning up. 1064 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: What about the rain filly shield, by the way, you're 1065 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 2: given that and you thought you wish you were there. 1066 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 14: There's been a bit of chat about that. Ethan de 1067 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 14: Grit's been pretty pretty tough for the Chests out this 1068 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 14: week and rightly so with the Southern boys, and there's 1069 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 14: been a banter now with the Canterbary lads getting the crack, 1070 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 14: so yeah, going for them, that's see. 1071 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: I think Canterbury will win and hold it obviously. The 1072 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 2: only question is how many years will they hold it? 1073 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 14: Well, So it's a tough thing to hold. We had 1074 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 14: Michael Jones in here this week earlier this week and 1075 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 14: he was a part of the ten that held it 1076 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 14: for sixty one games or something, which is something that 1077 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 14: will never be broken. 1078 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, what weather? What about the weather's bother you? They say, 1079 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 2: I think they're saying it's raining tomorrow morning, but it'll 1080 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: be fine by night. Does any of that matter? 1081 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 14: No, I don't think so. When either way, when will dry, 1082 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 14: It's going to be about rolling his flees upen and 1083 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 14: getting into it. 1084 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 2: We'll go well with it. Cody Taylor All Black with 1085 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: Us this morning, sixteen. 1086 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: To I the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. 1087 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 3: How it'd by news talks, it'd. 1088 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: Be So the ABS have been their half backs from box, 1089 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 2: kicking the ball straight to the opposition. Mike, I'm not 1090 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 2: eoser with confidence after that interview, also, Mike, what is 1091 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 2: it what is being played for by the ABS is 1092 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: not having five consecutive losses to the box. That's an 1093 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 2: interesting stat and you're still too nil Glenn. Oh, yeah, 1094 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: no change of mind. So Glenn, Glenn's Glenn's our winner 1095 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: so far. He said one on one in Argentina, so 1096 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 2: we got that right. And he's got zero for two 1097 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 2: for the All Blacks for South Africa and one all 1098 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: with Australia. Sam's got one all with Australia with South 1099 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: Africa and too nil with Australia. So i'm i'm i'm 1100 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 2: I say too too with South Africa, we're going to win. 1101 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:40,959 Speaker 2: And I say two too with Australia. Four thousand, two 1102 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety one votes so far. And the gripping 1103 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: soap opera that is Tommicky Markodo. So that's under ten 1104 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 2: percent of the vote so far, And if you ever 1105 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: want to be disillusioned about democracy in this country, here's 1106 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 2: your here's your glamour story. Mind you. In the general 1107 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 2: election they were shocking in terms of turnout, the turnout 1108 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: for a country that does eighty one eighty two something 1109 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 2: like that percent in a general election. Tommcky McCarry got 1110 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 2: sixty three. So I mean, it's the whole thing's pathetic? 1111 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: Is it the candidates? Penny I don't know, but I've 1112 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 2: seen and heard enough of him to believe that he's 1113 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 2: very well respected and liked within Marridom. He seems pretty 1114 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 2: in effectual rest of the time to me, a renny, 1115 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 2: I don't know from a bar of soap. I got 1116 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 2: around to him watching the highlights as the wrong word 1117 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 2: the aspects of the Jack Tayman to you last weekend 1118 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: that exposed her for being completely naive, hopelessly underprepared and 1119 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 2: little short of a shambles as a candidate. And that's there. 1120 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have trouble probably getting excited about voting 1121 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 2: of I was enrolled in that particular electorate as well, 1122 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: But I mean under ten percent, so tomorrow's a miracle 1123 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: day for turnout or it's just a complete bust. 1124 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 18: Is there a way that we can ring some of 1125 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 18: the people who haven't voted and ask them if they 1126 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 18: know that there's a bi election happening. 1127 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: It's not a bad question. I fear that the result 1128 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 2: would be even more depressing. Do you want to get 1129 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 2: to Matthew Houton? A number of you interested in Matthew Houghton. 1130 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 2: He's a conspiracy theorist in my book, here's my view. 1131 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 2: I like Matthew, I like you. I've got nothing personal 1132 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 2: against him. Saw him in a line at Melbourne Airport 1133 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 2: the last time I saw him, said hello to each 1134 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 2: other from across the line. But I think ever since 1135 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: he told us that his mate Todd was going to 1136 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 2: be the greatest leader national had ever seen and was 1137 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 2: going to lead us to the Promised Land and mark 1138 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 2: my words. I've known Todd for thirty years and that 1139 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 2: didn't quite work out that way. I've lost a bit 1140 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 2: of time for Matthew. Anyways, current thing this morning is 1141 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 2: that Luxeon's in trouble, about to be voted out. Most likely, 1142 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: Luxelon will be offered the option of staging his own 1143 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: departure and explanation. If Luxon doesn't face reality as removal 1144 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: will be messier. Luxem must quickly accept that from the 1145 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 2: most senior ministers to the freshest backbenches, there's an emerging 1146 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 2: consensus there's no winning next year under his leadership. We've 1147 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: canvassed a couple of senior players this morning. Bullshit was 1148 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: the answer to one of them. Another one said, hand 1149 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 2: on heart, there's not even a skeeric of truth in it. 1150 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 2: Simeon Brown seen as too young. Eric Stanfer Chris Bishop 1151 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 2: are the last two standing Stamford old Bishop would do 1152 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: the job much better with far greater knowledge of New 1153 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 2: zealand It's communities, in the range of economic and social 1154 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: changes they face. Blah blah blah. So I'm dismissing this 1155 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 2: as a bit of stirring because that's what he does. 1156 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: I will say quite happily here and confidently here that 1157 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 2: both Hipkins and Luxon will lead those two parties into 1158 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 2: the election. 1159 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: Nitherweight the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrower news Togsdad by. 1160 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: Mike Luxem wins in a landslide next election. My prediction, Lory, 1161 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: You're wrong. The days of landslides are gone because of 1162 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 2: MMP and because of the maturation of what's going on. 1163 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 2: So as I've said before, the Greens New Zealand first 1164 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: and act and now set in stone minor players in 1165 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 2: the political seeing there's no more discussion around the five 1166 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: percent plus or minus. They're all going to get back. 1167 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: They'll all get back with reasonable numbers. I mean anywhere 1168 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 2: between seven and ten or eleven percent, something like that. 1169 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 2: So you're soaking up a good chunk of the vote. 1170 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 2: And by soaking up a good chunk of the vote, 1171 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: that's less vote for the major players. And with the 1172 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 2: major players needing smaller numbers or getting smaller numbers, they 1173 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: need the other players. Therefore it will always be tight. 1174 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: And it's not like Australia where or Britain. Actually Britain's 1175 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 2: the better example. Labour one a landslide with less vote 1176 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 2: than they got the previous time because they landed the 1177 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 2: votes in the right places. Landing the votes in the 1178 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 2: right places doesn't work in the MMP. It's just a percentage, 1179 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 2: So there are no more landslides. I'm predicting a reason. 1180 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: If the economy comes right. Here's mcauleely on one, they'll win. 1181 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 2: They get returned because history tells you generally governments get 1182 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 2: returned for a second tim anyway. But if the economy 1183 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 2: comes right ish next year, they'll sail home because people 1184 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 2: will wake up to the fact that you know, the 1185 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 2: good who or the hard work's been done and you're 1186 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: getting some rewards for it, and that'll be the end 1187 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 2: of that. And Hipkins, if he turns up with a 1188 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 2: cap gains with a wealth tax, hes taste. He's an 1189 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 2: idiot if he even attempts it. You can't in a 1190 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 2: growing economy with a successful government go against that with 1191 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 2: more tax and think you're going to win. Car sales 1192 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: things are looking better. Third consecutive month we've seen a 1193 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 2: rise new cars. This is in the country. SUV's and 1194 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 2: passengers up twenty percent on last year, so that's material 1195 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 2: up twenty percent on last year. EV's still in a 1196 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: quote dramatic slump. Can we just give up on EV's 1197 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: Can we just accept that government's got it wrong, the 1198 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 2: zealot's got it wrong. It's it's not the future. Possibly 1199 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 2: a hybrid, possibly a pe heaver is the future. But 1200 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 2: BEVs are dead. Sharp increase in June, so June, July 1201 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: and August now where we're seeing good, good increases for 1202 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: August eleven seven hundred and thirty nine cars, which is 1203 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: a seventeen and a half percent game light passengers SUVs 1204 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 2: eight thousand and nine, which is a nineteen percent increase 1205 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 2: from August of last year. BEVs and plug ins are 1206 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: on a downward spiral. The industry calls the numbers alarming. 1207 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: BEVs the total number of BEVs. Remember I just gave 1208 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: you the number eleven thousand, seven hundred and thirty eight 1209 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: new cars sold. The number of BEVs in that number 1210 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 2: was three eighty five. It's none, it's a joke. Rangers 1211 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 2: back on top, ahl Lie, that's not it's the rab 1212 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 2: still rav Ranger high lux asx Celtos in the Utlander 1213 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 2: are your top four or five? Triton Nevara Everest and 1214 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 2: the shark that's sharks ugly? Isn't it the BYD shark? 1215 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 2: Have you seen that? What a tank? Mind? Joe fourteen 1216 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four people disagree with me? What do 1217 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 2: I know? Tim and Katie after right after the news, 1218 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: which is next here a news talk said. 1219 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 3: Beat setting me agender and talking the big issues. 1220 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: The Mike Husking Breakfast with Al Vida, retirement, communities, Life 1221 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: your Way, News talks, head. 1222 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 6: Be, There's a creek, Oh, walk to my house? 1223 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: Fell like a lot true good voice, Wooden Bridge, watch 1224 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 2: the Eels playing cool. Elizabeth Stokes, Bard of the Beths. 1225 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: She in the Sydney Morning Herald this week and she 1226 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: was talking about some sort of medical situation. Just chat 1227 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 2: chp temy that is her look up an article in 1228 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: the Sindney Morning Herald. I read it, but I just 1229 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 2: couldn't remember where I saw it. Expert in a Dying 1230 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: Field was the last album, and I remember at the 1231 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 2: time thinking what a brilliant title for an album, Expert 1232 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 2: in a Dying Field. This one's called straight Line was 1233 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 2: a lie that's equally clever. I think I can't work out. Also, 1234 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 2: it says expert in a Dying Field. The hookey Indie 1235 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Rockers third album and most melancholic endeavor yet the bets 1236 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Bet Elizabeth Stokes was having trouble writing new songs. Now 1237 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: is that a reference to this being the third or 1238 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 2: the last one being the third? Ten tracks, forty three 1239 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 2: minutes and forty seven seconds. 1240 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: A week in Review with two degrees fighting for fair 1241 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: for Kiwi, business. 1242 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Like to congratulate Gwen, who's produced some music for about 1243 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: the first time. I think pretty much all year that 1244 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 2: I could actually stomach for any sustained period of time. 1245 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 2: So I don't know what happened there. Tim Wilson's what 1246 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 2: is Timothy? 1247 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning, And I agree. I'm loving this song. 1248 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 6: It's got a country feel. 1249 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Catherine, good morning, good morning. 1250 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 9: You're an expert in the dying field. 1251 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:46,919 Speaker 6: It's very good. 1252 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: It's about what's the dying field? 1253 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 16: The media? 1254 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh, the media generally? Yeah, well, some bits are some 1255 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 2: bits aren't. But it's a nice it's nice of you 1256 01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 2: to say. Speaking actually, speaking of the field. I learnt 1257 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 2: something this week about a colleague of mine, Jason Pine. 1258 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 2: You know Jason Pine, Yes, Piny Piney. So he turns up. 1259 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I've just watched him do a pre record, and he 1260 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 2: turned up the other morning at about five o'clock and 1261 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 2: he was doing some other pre record. So what I 1262 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 2: know about his show is he does a tremendous amount 1263 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 2: of pre records for a start, But I don't know 1264 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: whether to approach him because he was sitting there for 1265 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 2: a sustained period of time, and of course I left 1266 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: at six to go into the studio and do the show. 1267 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: And then I came out at seven and he was 1268 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 2: still there prepping for the and he was still there 1269 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 2: at nine, So he was prepping for this interview for 1270 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,479 Speaker 2: four hours and he hadn't done. 1271 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 9: The interviewing other work. 1272 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 2: It didn't appear, so it appeared that he's just a 1273 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 2: slow prepper. And so I didn't know what to do 1274 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 2: about that, and whether I'm so when I admire him 1275 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 2: for coming in and actually putting some energy in because 1276 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: so many people in this industry just wing it so 1277 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: good on for being diligent, but there's diligence and sort 1278 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 2: of like you don't know what you're doing this where I. 1279 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 9: Wouldn't cast dispersions on him at all, because you should 1280 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 9: absolutely endorse anyone that's prepared to come in and do 1281 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 9: the work and do the prep, because that is again 1282 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 9: a thing that we see dying in this industry. Everybody 1283 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 9: just shows up a minute before they're due to hand 1284 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 9: and it or do anything with no prep. So I 1285 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 9: would I would commend him for that. 1286 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would have thought. 1287 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 13: I would have thought you would have recognized him as 1288 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 13: a as a brother in arms and that respect traveler. 1289 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 2: No, he is preps more than you. 1290 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 9: You're in there at three am. 1291 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 2: No prepping. This is my point. My point being is 1292 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 2: there's there's prep and this efficiency of movement, and so 1293 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: you want to you want to be as industrious as 1294 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 2: you possibly can to get as much done. That's my 1295 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 2: only point. Next question, he was doing other things? Okay, 1296 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 2: well let's let's give him the benefit of that. With 1297 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: all the collect this weekend show is going to be stunning. 1298 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 2: I mean twelve twelve to three. I mean I think both. 1299 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 9: He's a hot performer. He's award winning, so this something 1300 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 9: in it isn't that? I mean if he if he 1301 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 9: was a loser, who wasn't getting Yeah, he's a wood winning. 1302 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Ward winning. I just thought he got nominated. I was 1303 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 2: going to look, I've undersold him again, haven't I got 1304 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 2: nodding through the grass time? 1305 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 6: And it's a big it's a big weekend for sport. 1306 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 2: You know me. I love my sport. 1307 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 13: And boy, oh boy, you'll blacks, you'll blacks and the 1308 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 13: Fortress with the springs. 1309 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 20: With they don't call him the springs tem No quick 1310 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 20: question for you, Katie is has Kate Princess got hair extensions? 1311 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 9: Oh, I wondered extually if it was a full blown 1312 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 9: Wiged told you one of the photos. 1313 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: I knew it as soon as I saw that photo 1314 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: this morning. I thought, here extensions all day long. She 1315 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 2: looks magnificent. 1316 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 9: Hair extensions and wigs are two different things. 1317 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 2: You realize, Well, I do know, but I don't. I 1318 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 2: don't think there's a wig there at all. But I 1319 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 2: think there are hair extensions for people. People are going 1320 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: to go look at the photos. So she's back on 1321 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 2: royal duties today. She's gone slightly blonde. It looks magnificent, 1322 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 2: but there's a whole lot of hair. Though so much here. 1323 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 9: Arguably bordering on too much? Here is that for such 1324 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 9: a tiny, tiny frame? 1325 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 2: She Is it a crimp or a curl? She's running? 1326 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 9: No, it's just a soft curl, not a crump. 1327 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 6: Should we should we bring Greg? Should we bring Greg 1328 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 6: and the expert here? 1329 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Well? 1330 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah no, Greg. Greg Greggs liberally is not out of 1331 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: bed until about nine. Having said that, would it be 1332 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 2: Glenn who knows a lot about here? He says it's 1333 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 2: a diceon air rap. Do you think it's a dison 1334 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 2: air wrap? 1335 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 5: Could be? 1336 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 9: They give you a lot of volume just ask Nichola Willis. 1337 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 9: I'm sure she's doing the air rap at times too. 1338 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: Nikola Willis, next question, what's an air rap? There? What 1339 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: the thing is? And don't ask what an air wrapper is? 1340 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 18: Do you not know what is it? Do you not 1341 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 18: know what the coander effect is? 1342 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 6: Is it? I mean, is it a blow dryer? Is 1343 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 6: that what it is? Put on the end of the 1344 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 6: vacuum cleaner, on ther vacuum cleaner? 1345 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 12: Is that? 1346 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 2: Next? Next question, is Nikola will Us the only female 1347 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: MP who wears false eyelashes? 1348 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 8: Does she wear falselishes? 1349 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 2: No question? Absolutely, no question, and not that that's not 1350 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 2: an aspersion the same way I wasn't casting aspersions on 1351 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 2: Jason's prep. But she wears look at her next time. 1352 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: She puts a lot of energy into it. That matter what, 1353 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 2: don't make it. No, I don't genderize this. It's not 1354 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 2: a politicians, it's not sexist. I was congratulating her on 1355 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 2: it because she, like Jason, puts energy and effort into 1356 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 2: something and in this case it's her look and good 1357 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 2: on for doing it. 1358 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 6: And there we are. 1359 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 13: We've okay, we've actually done so, We've turned them around 1360 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 13: on poney, We've actually. 1361 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 6: Done the U tune. We've worked it. I love I 1362 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 6: love the positivity. This is great. 1363 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 2: I need some Ikea and put in the moment please. 1364 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 2: Thirteen past eight. 1365 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I Heard 1366 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: Radio News. 1367 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 2: Talks Talks, seventeen past. 1368 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 1: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions 1369 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: to the table. 1370 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 2: Asking you or losing it? 1371 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 9: That's hey, can I just I just got a little 1372 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 9: bones to pick with you. I would not have given 1373 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 9: that Matthew Houghton piece are scac of airtime. That is 1374 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 9: the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen in the 1375 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 9: paper in a long time. And I'm sure that's why 1376 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 9: they give them a column. It's just clickbait. They want 1377 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 9: to rage bait you. They want you to get annoyed 1378 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 9: because there's nothing in that. There's no truths. 1379 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 13: But also it's it's like, where's the credibility based on 1380 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 13: previous predictions in the sense that this is this and 1381 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 13: I think you did note that is that there's a 1382 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 13: bit of prior form here and. 1383 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 2: There is I shouldn't. My reason, in my defense, abbit hole, 1384 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,439 Speaker 2: you didn't prepare enough. 1385 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 6: You see, you've got to talk to Piney. 1386 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 13: And figure out your preparation, get it right, spend four 1387 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 13: hours on. 1388 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 2: A I got some editorial piece, I got some texts, 1389 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, I'll respond to the audience. But 1390 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 2: it's a good point Piney. By the way, an update. 1391 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 2: The interview was at six o'clock, so he started prep 1392 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 2: at five, so he had one hour prep for the interview. 1393 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 2: Glen City was in the studio editing. Now, that would 1394 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: be my advice, don't do an interview. You have to 1395 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 2: edit clean, quick, sharp, to the point, don't don't wax 1396 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: lyrical top and tail at top and had the top 1397 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: and tail that's that's that's that's the that's the ultra 1398 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 2: Katie's ikea. Were you as surprised as I was at 1399 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 2: Luxon's large collection of iq. 1400 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 9: I was surprised that he said he has dragged a 1401 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 9: cubby all over the world in as many various houses 1402 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 9: and places that he's lived. I would have thought that 1403 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 9: was sort of. 1404 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 2: A can I ask a question? Lots of cubby a 1405 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: cubby holder. 1406 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 9: It's like a cubby to hold stuff, you know, it's 1407 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 9: like a description cubby. 1408 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 13: And I'm not allowed to ask what's that thing that 1409 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 13: you know was doing this year? 1410 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: The reason. I. By the way, Glenn tells me that 1411 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 2: Sir James's as and Dyson has literally just launched the 1412 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 2: new air wrap in Berlin this morning, and so I 1413 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 2: suspect that Kate is an ambassador for them, and she'll 1414 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 2: put it up on Instagram later on today with some likes. 1415 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 9: It'll be on everybody's Christmas wish list this year. 1416 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 2: How much is an air rap, Katie? 1417 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 9: They're close to a thousand dollars if. 1418 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,880 Speaker 6: We established what they are there is. 1419 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 13: It's a plastic stick with air, a plastic stick with air. 1420 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 9: That comes with multiple different heads and things. You can 1421 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 9: curl with it, you can brush. 1422 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 14: Dry with it. 1423 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 9: Look, I'm not sponsored by Dyson, so I'm not going 1424 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 9: to say anything. 1425 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 11: More about it. 1426 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 9: Make me their ambassador. 1427 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 13: Could might be an ambassador. He could he could deal 1428 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 13: with a bit of curling and for. 1429 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,480 Speaker 2: A hair wrap. I don't know about that. 1430 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 9: You need more hair you have to talk to I have. 1431 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 2: To talk to Greg about that. 1432 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 12: Now. 1433 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 2: Have you been participating in the snake promotion at all? 1434 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 2: Tim at the supermarket? I haven't. 1435 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 13: Okay, what do you want to just I'm just trying. 1436 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 13: I'm just trying to emerge from a snow Driftsney discs 1437 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 13: the worst thing ever. Honestly, people, people will are you 1438 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 13: familiar with the Disney disc thing? 1439 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 2: Are you still using? You mean discs? As and CDs 1440 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 2: are collecting. 1441 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 6: So there's Mike, there's a thing called a supermarket that. 1442 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 2: We're getting from. 1443 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 9: That's new World. 1444 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 2: Oh, for god's sake, multiple emotions. I mean, talk about 1445 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 2: keep your messages nice and clear. Supermarket land, so you 1446 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 2: get Disney discs and how many of those are you going? 1447 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 6: But people, The thing is, people say they're useless. They 1448 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 6: the houses. 1449 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 13: There's a toundre of Disney disc wrappers all through the 1450 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 13: house and I'm constantly picking them up. What do you 1451 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 13: do when people see us at the supermarket? They go, oh, 1452 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,759 Speaker 13: look there's a nice family. I'll give them my Disney discs. Please, 1453 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 13: no more Disney disc What do you do with them? 1454 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 11: They're rubbish? 1455 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 13: Well, you just you leave them under couches, You put 1456 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 13: them in the way of people. You just annoy your 1457 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 13: parents with them. That's what they're there for. Apparently collectible, 1458 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 13: nothing's collectible? What is what did lumps of plastic? 1459 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 2: What did Josh do? Caddie? What did Josh collect? The 1460 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Weebel's wobble, but mighty beans. Mighty beans. He was into 1461 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,480 Speaker 2: collecting everything but mighty beans. The nearest we got to collectibles, 1462 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 2: I thought that were genuine collectibles, were mighty beans. 1463 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 18: But we've still got the mighty beans. 1464 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,640 Speaker 9: I'm keeping them for the grandchildren, because mighty beans were 1465 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 9: actually cool. 1466 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 2: Keeping them. Never say that out. I'm keeping them. 1467 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 9: For me to throw them out so I can't. 1468 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 6: No pressure. Come on, kids, give me grand cats. 1469 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 2: The reason, the reason I just asked about the Ikea 1470 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 2: and the surprise. I thought Ikea was correct me if 1471 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I thought Ikia was a stage of life 1472 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 2: whereby you're setting up your flat in London and you 1473 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 2: bring home your allen keys and your battle with your 1474 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, to make a stool or a table or 1475 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 2: a sideboard or whatever it is, and then you move on. 1476 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 2: Is that not the case? 1477 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's Oka and also meat balls. 1478 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah I know. 1479 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,919 Speaker 6: Also Ikea Ikia. 1480 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 13: Anyone planning, anyone planning to get married together an Kia 1481 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 13: flap pack together beforehand so you. 1482 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 6: Can figure out each other. 1483 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, good test. 1484 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 6: It's the litmus test. 1485 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 13: If you can't put an Ikea flapback together, you need 1486 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 13: to go to counseling. 1487 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 2: I think we've got some good advice there. We've sorted 1488 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 2: out Jason's career. We've done the flat pack and the 1489 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 2: allen Key marriage test, We've done supermarket promotions. Just all 1490 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 2: in all, I think this has been a pretty productive session. 1491 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Well done you two. Congratulations A twenty two. 1492 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk 1493 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 1: ZEDB No. 1494 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: If you're still searching for a dad gift, A Chemist's Warehouse, 1495 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 2: of course, is the place where you say big so, 1496 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 2: whether he's bold, sporty or sophisticated, They've got you covered. 1497 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 2: What have we got? What have I got for you? 1498 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Hugo Boss Bottled infinite fifty mills. That's the scent for 1499 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,799 Speaker 2: the driven Dad, eighty nine ninety nine. At chemist Warehouse 1500 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 2: Modern elegance, you've got Jivange Gentleman Society one hundred mills 1501 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 2: now and the eighty nine ninety nine something sporty and stylish, 1502 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of David Beckham instinct seventy five mills, 1503 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. And for the bold, confident signature sent 1504 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 2: you got the mighty DC signature. That's DC Dan Carter 1505 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 2: one hundred mills only thirty nine to ninety nine. That's 1506 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 2: exclusive by the way to the Chemist Warehouse. So if 1507 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 2: you're still stuck, pick up the Real House of Fragrance 1508 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Gift guide from the local chemist ware House, full of 1509 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 2: great gift ideas and these Father's Day fragrance deals they 1510 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 2: got to end on Sunday, so it's a Chemist ware House, 1511 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 2: the Real House of Fragrances. This Friday, speaking of got 1512 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 2: to hit me Glynn. 1513 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Win one thousand dollars for a Father's Day thanks to 1514 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: Chemist Warehouse, the Real House of Fragrances and news Talk. 1515 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 2: Said, I just want a little hosking, That's all I wanted. 1516 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 2: So I was going to do their hasky. You're one 1517 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 2: of those. I was going to do the big one 1518 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 2: after the news Anyway, I got the final letter this 1519 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 2: morning for a thousand dollars from Chemist ware House and 1520 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,640 Speaker 2: the megmense fragrance of your choosing. I was looking at 1521 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 2: the catalog this morning, the Jean Paul Goatier La Mail 1522 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 2: I used to have that, absolutely fantastic. It's ninety four 1523 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 2: ninety nine. Do you know when I asked war at 1524 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 2: about twenty years ago, I reckon I paid more for it. 1525 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 2: Then it's incredible, Yeah, don't you ring? I mean everyone 1526 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 2: had that but a gen boll go to yea. 1527 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,759 Speaker 18: There and you could smell like the Mike Husking Breakfast couldn't. 1528 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 2: And Birbury they've got Birbery London at half price. Now 1529 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Birbery's back on the foot Sea Stock Exchange. Not that 1530 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 2: that really means anything, but celebrate that with some Birbury Lane. Anyway. 1531 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 2: I've got the final letter for Father's Day coming up 1532 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 2: after the news in a couple of moments, along of course, 1533 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,560 Speaker 2: with Murray Old's This Friday morning on the Mike Hosking. 1534 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Breakfast, The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, 1535 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rangrover leading by example, News Talks, 1536 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Dead be Marnie. 1537 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,839 Speaker 2: What was the Netflix series Mike mentioned this morning? Brassek 1538 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 2: was what you're after, Mike. Disney discs make great golf markers, 1539 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 2: so that's useful, Mike. My wife drove forty k's to 1540 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 2: get the last meek a mini serious honestly, twenty three 1541 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 2: minutes you can have mine. Twenty three minutes away from nine. 1542 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 1: When one thousand dollars for Father's Day, thanks to Chemist Warehouse, 1543 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the real house of fragrances and news talk, said Bee. 1544 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Amanda from Northland writes to us, this is for one 1545 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 2: thousand dollars from our very good friends a Chemist ware 1546 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 2: House and a two hundred dollars free grants voucher picked 1547 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,520 Speaker 2: the fragrance of your choice. My dad Neville is a legend. 1548 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Back in the eighties, I got a Walkman for Christmas, 1549 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 2: but we couldn't afford any cassettes for it. I could 1550 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 2: only listen to songs I'd recorded on the radio. But 1551 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Dad took his record collection to real Grooby, sult them 1552 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,759 Speaker 2: and let me use the money to buy my first 1553 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: real cassettes David Bowie and Pat Bennetta. I listened to 1554 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 2: them over and over and over. My dad would give 1555 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 2: up anything for us. Best dad ever ever. In capital 1556 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 2: letters with three exclamation marks, Amanda, very nice, thank you 1557 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 2: never well done. Thousand dollars from Chemist Warehouse and that 1558 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 2: nice voucher for the fragrance of your choice and everybody 1559 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 2: father part of figures Bundy, I have a lovely Father's Day. 1560 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away from. 1561 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 16: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of 1562 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,839 Speaker 16: mind for new Zealand Business Murray. 1563 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Old, how are you good morning, Mike. 1564 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, busy week over here, very busy week. 1565 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 2: I reckon, do you find Thomas Syle's mustas's ridiculous as I. 1566 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 12: Do, oh ages a. He's an absolute tall and a 1567 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 12: fool and there's a lot of people here who want 1568 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,720 Speaker 12: to kick him back to New Zealand where he was born. 1569 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,639 Speaker 2: We aren't you under the firebo one, He's you're entitled 1570 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 2: to be, that's true. 1571 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 12: I mean under the citizenship back the Minister for Immigration 1572 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 12: can apply to a court to revoke someone's Australian citizenship 1573 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 12: if they're convicted of a serious offense, if they've been 1574 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,680 Speaker 12: jailed for at least three years and their conduct is 1575 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 12: quote so serious it demonstrates that the person has repudiated 1576 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 12: their allegiance to Australia unquote. I reckon, This thirty two 1577 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 12: year old idiot is disqualified on the basis of his 1578 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 12: mustache alone. I mean, he's just an absolute muppet mite. 1579 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the I watched the footage worth Jacinder 1580 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Ellen and he's I mean, he's just he's a classic 1581 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 2: attention seeking clown. But and unfortunately he is ours and 1582 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 2: so you know, you being in New Zealand to murray 1583 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 2: you probably need to apologize to Australian says I had 1584 01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 2: this week for because we produced him sadly. But here's 1585 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 2: the thing. 1586 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 12: I mean, he came over I think as very very young. 1587 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 12: But here's the thing. I mean, he and his moron 1588 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,720 Speaker 12: mates are out there demonstrating against immigration. 1589 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 2: Bit like Bob Katter. 1590 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 12: They're both hypocrites, they're both coming from somewhere else and 1591 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 12: they had the nerve, they had the utter gaul to 1592 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 12: attack an indigenous organization just there in the parklands in Melbourne. 1593 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 12: For some reason, these black shirted halfwards when punching on 1594 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 12: with old Aboriginal men. I mean, what's wrong with them? Then? 1595 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 2: Well, they're mental, is the problem. Elbow spoke to Trumps. 1596 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 2: It is not the same as a meeting, but I 1597 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,799 Speaker 2: suppose we're one step closer. 1598 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 12: Oh, absolutely right. That's what Richard Miles, the Defense Minutes 1599 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 12: was doing. We understand a week ago, ten days ago 1600 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 12: in Washington selling a stage with this meeting. It's going 1601 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 12: to happen this month, we think. When Albanzi goes to 1602 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 12: the United Nations meeting in the General Assembly in New York. 1603 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,639 Speaker 12: Both sides apparently very very happy with the overnight chat 1604 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 12: that you know, we discussed that. This is the readout 1605 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 12: from social media from Albanezi this morning. Another warm and 1606 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,679 Speaker 12: constructive conversation quite with the President. We discuss trade, economic 1607 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,480 Speaker 12: relationship as well as areas for growth, including critical minerals. 1608 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 12: We also discussed shared US Australia security interests, but no 1609 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 12: mention of the Landmark Orcus agreement. Apparently, Mike, that is 1610 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 12: a very problematic, very problematic investment for Australia. I mean 1611 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 12: hundreds of billions of dollars, billions of dollars, and there's 1612 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 12: every chance will never see these submarines. So it's going 1613 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 12: to have to come to a head at some point. 1614 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 12: They've got this review underway in Washington. Can we let 1615 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 12: Australia have these these you know, nuclear submarines. We can't 1616 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 12: build enough for ourselves apparently, But anyway, look, it is 1617 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 12: a step forward. Maybe it'll stop the dogs barking over 1618 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,640 Speaker 12: here from the right wing. Oh, elbot can't get a 1619 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 12: meeting with trumpor well, hello, there's the other things on 1620 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 12: his plate, so too for Donald Trump. 1621 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 2: For goodness, there's four seventy five million for the robot. 1622 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 2: This goes back to Morrison's was Morrison's time, wasn't it 1623 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 2: It was? 1624 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right. I mean it was just a horrendous, 1625 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,799 Speaker 12: heartbreaking exercise and government stupidity really well, the public service 1626 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 12: as well. They thought there were all these people out 1627 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 12: there ripping off the welfare system, and so someone came 1628 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 12: up with this algorithm. I'm not sure if this qualifies 1629 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 12: as perhaps early AI. 1630 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 1631 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,480 Speaker 12: I don't know anything about it. But there's an algorithm 1632 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 12: that was set that was run across all these people 1633 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 12: that were on welfare payments in Australia and lo and behold, 1634 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 12: this algorithm comes up with nearly half a million Australians 1635 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 12: who owed the government money and in almost every single case, Mike, 1636 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 12: you know, I know, they didn't owe anyone any money 1637 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 12: at all. Well, some of these people they had no 1638 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 12: ability to pay. They couldn't comprehend what was going on. 1639 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 12: They killed themselves. They killed themselves. They you know, in 1640 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 12: many cases, they took out loans they didn't need and 1641 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 12: couldn't afford to pay back this debt they didn't know. 1642 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 12: And so the government under Scott Morrison, they paid I 1643 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 12: think in the order of one hundred and ten old 1644 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,120 Speaker 12: million dollars in compensation the people who were victimized in 1645 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 12: this way, they said, hang on a second. Lawyers for 1646 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 12: them said, hang on a second. There's no where the 1647 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 12: good enough and now our subject to the federal court 1648 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 12: signing off on this, they're going to get four hundred 1649 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 12: and seventy five million dollars. 1650 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 2: Quick question joining them, Quick question, how many are there? 1651 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,680 Speaker 2: So therefore, how much do they each get? Does it 1652 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 2: very depending on their circumstances and what happens with the 1653 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 2: money for the people who are dead. 1654 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 12: Well, it's it's not a quick question, and I don't 1655 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,680 Speaker 12: have the answer to it. But there's a lot more 1656 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 12: to be There's a lot more to be done in this. 1657 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 12: I mean, the first thing, I suppose they've got this judgment, 1658 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 12: it has to be approved and I'm not one hundred 1659 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 12: percent sure why it must be approved of the federal court. 1660 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 12: It has to sign off on it, and then they'll 1661 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 12: get to that nuts and bolt stuff about allocating the money. 1662 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 12: But sadly, tragically, some people are no longer. 1663 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 2: He exactly, Dan Andrews. Really interesting, So John Key and 1664 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,680 Speaker 2: Helen Clark did the same thing as Dan Andrews and 1665 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Bob carry. I think they made a mistake. I've said 1666 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 2: they made a mistake. Optically, it didn't look good, but 1667 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 2: they received nothing like the approbe room that Andrews took. 1668 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 2: And I think Carr got away with it too. So 1669 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 2: my question is, did Andrews take heat because he's Dan 1670 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 2: Andrews and he's from Victoria and everyone hates on him. 1671 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 12: I think I think that's part of it. I mean, 1672 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 12: in the big scheme of things, Dan Andrews wouldn't raid 1673 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 12: as a dogcatcher in Beijing. He's that far down the 1674 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 12: political pecking order Bob Carr elected. I mean, you know, 1675 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 12: Bob car draws a whole lot more water. He's a 1676 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 12: former Australian Foreign minister. And he actually did go. 1677 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,639 Speaker 2: He didn't go anywhere near the parade. 1678 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 12: He was in China shore and you know, he may 1679 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 12: have had some senior, some top level meetings, but he 1680 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 12: was not there be getting photos with the little weirdo 1681 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 12: with the bad haircut in North Korea like Daniel Andrews. 1682 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 12: I mean, it's it's just astonishing. Daniel Andrews is a 1683 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 12: political pigmy for China and he's up there promoting. You know, 1684 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 12: he's up there promoting economic links and the benefits of 1685 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 12: trade between Victoria and China to that extent, I suppose 1686 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 12: it's not a bad thing, but he just looked weird and. 1687 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 2: Know he's an idiot. Just real quest this NAU thing. 1688 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: I've become fascinated. I don't know how interested Australia is, 1689 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 2: but the reason I'm interested in NARU two and a 1690 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 2: half billion over thirty years, and you're paying these people 1691 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,679 Speaker 2: to take your crooks off your hands. In places like UK, 1692 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 2: this ends up in court permanently and they can't do it. 1693 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 2: In Italy it's ended up in court and they can't 1694 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 2: do it. How is it possible that you are allowed 1695 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 2: to export people to another country and somebody within Australia 1696 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 2: hasn't gone This has got to be illegal human rights. 1697 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:28,920 Speaker 2: We're going to stop it. 1698 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 12: Well it's a very good question. I mean, just go 1699 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 12: back one step. I mean, these people the High Court 1700 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 12: of Australia, the highest court in the Landmike. 1701 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, let them out. I got that part. But then 1702 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 2: you've got them. But then there's lots of countries want 1703 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,960 Speaker 2: to export people, you know, I mean Farage wants to 1704 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 2: export them to Afghanistan. But you have seemingly successfully exported 1705 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 2: them to Naru, and yet it's not the same calamitous 1706 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 2: legal problem that every other country in the world seems 1707 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 2: to have. 1708 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 12: I'm not sure that legal avenue has been exhausted. Yet 1709 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,879 Speaker 12: there are critics over here, opponents and very strident opponents 1710 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 12: of this deal, saying, you are kidding. How can you 1711 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,360 Speaker 12: drop rapists and murderers and hundreds of them, not all 1712 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 12: rapist murderers, but some of them are How on earth 1713 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,640 Speaker 12: can you drop? Can you bribe a country that's the 1714 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 12: size of Wahiki Island with fewer inhabitants, for God's sake 1715 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 12: and drop all these crims in the middle of that? 1716 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 2: Because she's an outrage according to. 1717 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 18: Many, many people. 1718 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 12: But the government seems to have done a deal, and 1719 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 12: at the most senior level, Naru's happy to take the 1720 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 12: money and happy to take the bad guys. 1721 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 2: Strange Aaron Patterson get home detention? Do you think you jack, mate? 1722 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 12: She won't be getting a job in the prison kitchen, 1723 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 12: that's for sure. She may be good for the library, 1724 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 12: but I think that's about it. We'll find out more 1725 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 12: on Monday. We'll find out more on Monday when it's 1726 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,760 Speaker 12: going to be live stream. The sentence is going to 1727 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 12: be live stream, and even the defense has said made 1728 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 12: it's a thirty year sentence. The prosecution wants life without parole. 1729 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 2: All right, mane go well appreciate it. That's Murray Holds 1730 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: out of Australia. Lam's worked through the massinations for the 1731 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,640 Speaker 2: Warriors this weekend, so I'll work you through that in 1732 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 2: a moment. Fourteen to two the Like. 1733 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks. 1734 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:15,640 Speaker 2: At be Okay. So the Warriors sit sixth fifth plays eight, 1735 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 2: sixth place seven, so depending on where we end up, 1736 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 2: will play eight or seven Sharks and the two teams 1737 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 2: below us, which are the Panthers Rooster's still got to 1738 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 2: play this round. This is where it all gets up 1739 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,160 Speaker 2: in the air of the Sharks lose to the Bulldogs 1740 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 2: who are playing their full strength team, so probably they will, 1741 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 2: and we beat the Eagles, which we will, we finish five, 1742 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 2: so that's good. If the Sharks win and we win, 1743 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,640 Speaker 2: we finish sixth. We can't finish worse than sixth. So 1744 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 2: in other years that would be like, hallelujah, praise the Lord. 1745 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,160 Speaker 2: How good has that been? This year has been different. 1746 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 2: So we're a little bit disappointed. I think Panthers played 1747 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 2: the Dragons. Panthers should win because, as Sam so eloquently 1748 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 2: said to me before, he said, because Panthers are the Panthers. 1749 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 2: And when Sam says those sort of cliches, you can't 1750 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,759 Speaker 2: argue with. The Panthers are the Panthers play the Rabbits. 1751 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 2: The Rabbits dogged by injuries. But it's the big rivalry, 1752 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,560 Speaker 2: grame game. This is sam big rivalry again, it's the 1753 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,080 Speaker 2: big rivalry game. Panthers are the Panthers, so it should 1754 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 2: be interesting. Another cliche, Sam, should be interesting, Tilly, what 1755 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,879 Speaker 2: should be interesting? Panthers are the Panthers. If the Roosters 1756 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 2: lose and the Dolphins win, then the Dolphins are in 1757 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,879 Speaker 2: the eight at the expense of the Roosters. So, depending 1758 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 2: on the results, will either play the Panthers, Roosters or Dolphins. 1759 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 2: I'd take any of them apart from the Panthers, because 1760 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 2: the Panthers are the Panthers. Roosters of the Dolphins. To 1761 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 2: take the Dolphins, wouldn't you. I take the Dolphins. Dolphins 1762 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 2: play the Raiders. Raiders are resting pretty much everyone, so 1763 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 2: the Dolphins may win. Please do not ask me to 1764 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 2: repeat that night. Away from nine, The. 1765 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 1: Mate Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities News, togs 1766 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 1: Head Bees. 1767 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 2: Mike, Why on earth are you confident we're beating manly 1768 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 2: because I use confidence and positivity every day. It's a 1769 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 2: lifestyle Mike. Why does I Keya get so much news cover? 1770 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 2: Which It's fine for international brands to come here, but 1771 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 2: why do we need to promote them endlessly for free 1772 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 2: in the news. It's not a bad question, especially given 1773 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,719 Speaker 2: the media's performance over a WUS this week. It seemed 1774 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 2: so ironic. Was it just because I he has actually 1775 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,000 Speaker 2: got a shop? If I he was no online offering, 1776 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 2: would we go? 1777 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 12: Well? 1778 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 2: Where was the Belding? 1779 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 18: Hold on? 1780 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 2: I found some flat land there and nobody built on it. 1781 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,719 Speaker 2: That's a scam. 1782 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 18: Wait a minute, This finiture all just comes in a 1783 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 18: flat box exactly. 1784 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 2: Hold on, that furniture is not assembled. Did we know this? 1785 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 2: What do you mean? In allen Key six Away from nine. 1786 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist ware House Great savings every day. 1787 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 2: Right, we got a bunch of new products this morning 1788 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 2: from Dyson. We got the air rap that we mentioned 1789 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 2: a moment ago. The Coender two times or Times two, 1790 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,920 Speaker 2: or the Coender two or the it's just a Coender 1791 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 2: air rap and anyway makes you here look just beautiful. 1792 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 2: Upgraded VH cyclone. We got a new handheld called the 1793 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,559 Speaker 2: V sixteen Piston Animal. I mean, how good's that? I mean, 1794 01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 2: come on, the V sixteen pistol an animal. It could 1795 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 2: be anything, couldn't It could be a sex toy, are purifier, 1796 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 2: the fan. I got the fan. It's crap. I'm sorry, 1797 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 2: but it's crap. 1798 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 7: You. 1799 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 2: I might be good, could be good. It'll make too 1800 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 2: much noise, though, but it looks well. Possibly not. I 1801 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 2: got the spot and scrub Ai robot. I'd need to 1802 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 2: be convinced on that. But I'm not needing to be 1803 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 2: convince I think this is genius. It is the pencil back. 1804 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 2: It's boring? Was that? James, Oh, for goodness sake needs 1805 01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 2: a pitch man. He needs me, He needs to hire me, 1806 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,600 Speaker 2: for I could have done a lot better on the 1807 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 2: pencil back. The pencil back is fantastic. He turned up 1808 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 2: at the Berlin shop by the way in a convoy 1809 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 2: of see if you can tell what he turned up 1810 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 2: and listen, what was that? What do you mean was that? 1811 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 2: It was a men, why do you turn up in 1812 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 2: a Mini? Because there's the connection with Mini and clever design. 1813 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 2: It was the first car to have a transverse engine 1814 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 2: driving the front wheels, reducing length and maximizing interior space. 1815 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 2: That's why I stand up on the Mini. So what 1816 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 2: have we got? We got the air wrap, we got 1817 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 2: the upgraded VH cyclone, we got the new handheld, the 1818 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,960 Speaker 2: V sixteen piston animal. I don't even know what that is. 1819 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to buy one. I mean, honestly, best name 1820 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 2: of the air purifier. I'd be yet to be convinced 1821 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 2: about that, and certainly the fan I'm not a fan of. 1822 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 2: But the spot scrub AI robot, I'm not into AI. 1823 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm not into robots. No robots. I was talking to 1824 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,519 Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce the other day, chairman of this company. Don't 1825 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 2: want to drop names anyway. He's got a robot lawn mower, 1826 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 2: and he's had a couple of robot lawnmowers. He's got 1827 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 2: acreage and he's convinced. I'm not convincing. I said, he's 1828 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 2: got another one coming. That's what happens when you get 1829 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 2: the chairman of the company. You get to buy lots 1830 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 2: of robot lawmas. Anyway, the third one's a hybrid of 1831 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 2: the two he's got. Therefore, the third one's supposed to 1832 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 2: be good. I said that if that convinces you, it'll 1833 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 2: convince me. But then I said, I said, I'm going 1834 01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,559 Speaker 2: to have to let somebody go at my property if 1835 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 2: I get a robot vacuum cleaner. And he had a 1836 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 2: look on his face almost as though he didn't care. 1837 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 2: I found that surprising. Right, listen to the show, and 1838 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 2: that's probably said too much publicly there, But there you go. 1839 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 2: That's me, isn't it. If I'm not back Monday, that 1840 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,640 Speaker 2: obviously went worse than I thought it did. And if 1841 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 2: I am back Monday, I'd love to breed another day. 1842 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:21,720 Speaker 2: Happy Days. 1843 01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,640 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1844 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1845 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,440 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.