1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Kate Hawksby's weather's very good morning to you. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,319 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Mike Costking. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Okay, and tim good morning to you. Good morning mikey Dyki. 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: How you doing, mate, I'm doing doing fantastic, Timo. How 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: much does the dentist away, Katie? By the way, how 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: much of the dentist yesterday? 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: I can't remember, but it's like two is it two hundred. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: And something dollars? I don't know. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: It's funny. It's money we'll spenting. He's very experienced, he's 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: a great deal. I love my dentist. But we agree 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: that you don't just buy an electric car because you 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: might be paying more for petrol for a couple of weeks. 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: And also you don't if you are, in his case, 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: a Porsche driver, you certainly don't drive an electric one 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: because half the reason of driving a Porsche. And he 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: races them on tracks, by the way. In fact, he 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: asked about whether you're still track racing, and I had 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: to say, you know, since the crash and writing off 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: a car, you're not really doing that anymore. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Where Whereas the truth is, ever since you put your 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: foot down and didn't allow me to anymore, it's over 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: and the dream was crushed. Not true. 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: No, no's just didn't like the traffic on the way 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: to get into the track. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: That's true. 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: Time to be fair, it takes too long to get there. 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: You know. 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 3: Wait, wait a minute, I'm hearing someone saying that someone 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: put their foot down. I'm hearing someone else saying that, No, 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: she's right, she's right, for she's right. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: Okay, do you know I was down a back straight 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: to I was at Highlands, No, I was. I was 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: at Hampton Downs and I used to drive it. I 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: used to go from work here to Hampton Down, so 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: that takes it used to be take an hour, and 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: it needs to take about twenty eight minutes because the 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: road works. And I was going down a back straight, 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the main back straight there on the International Circuit one day, 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: and I was doing about two fifty two fifty five 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: and you need there's a hairpin at the end, and 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you really need to hit the breaking point at the 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: right point, otherwise at the end of the track there's 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: really none of there's no offering, there's just a wall. 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: And because I was too tired, I hit the brake 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: just a bit late, just you know, that split second, 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: and I thought shit, and I thought, I'm too tired 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to be here, and so I went round the corner, 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: and then I went around the other corners and got 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: to the end of the track, and I thought, now 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I'll give this a rest for a while until on 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: this time. So that was the end of that. 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: That that sounds good. 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: But you you didn't crash? No I didn't. No, I 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't crash. Okay, can I not? 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: There? 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: Can I suggest? Is there? 57 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: Because marriage is about compromise, right as your unofficial counsel. 58 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: So is there a hybrid that you could both compromise on? 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: You mean is that the way to go? You mean 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: a plug in? 61 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, but hybrids don't plug in. 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: You mean I'm not a pre you just mean a queen? 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: So you well, I mean, well it's bev or here? 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Isn't it evil? 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: P here? 66 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the point the point of 67 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: a pea here is you've got to one plug it 68 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: and plus you got to fill it with petrol, which 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: seems to me to be the stupidest thing in the world. 70 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Why would you want a few weeks have to plug 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: them in? Here? You do the heave? You don't do? 72 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: You don't know your hebs and your pe hips. Tim, 73 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: don't come to the car conversation start cocking it up 74 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: because you don't know what you're talking about. Do you 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: two want the best news going out? 76 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Now? 77 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: You take the jargon out of the car conversation. 78 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: That's the deal that is true. Do you want good news? 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: You too? Me? Yep, it's been pretty good the last 80 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: half hour. Actually, Rod drewy isn't he lovely love us? 81 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Such a fantastic He's a fantastic. It was uplifting. I 82 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: agree between him and Miles hurrle this week. How much 83 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: good has the show done? The country's psyche? Excellent? 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: They were both brilliant and I love the fact that 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: we have people at the top of their game in 86 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: our country who love the country back and want to 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: do good stuff and give back. That's actually, you know, 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: that doesn't get better than that goodn't agreement? 89 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: Can we get I've said this before, but can we 90 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: get Miles hurl to write? Okay, so he didn't want 91 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: the rugby, but if we throw in the netball and 92 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: the cricket, could he just knows? 93 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: All around several spots I was reading yesterday water polo 94 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: too has troubles and so between cricket, hockey, netball, water 95 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: polo and rugbys. I thought you were giving us some 96 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: good news you hang on. Oh yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks, 97 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: I have I do, I have the best news you ready? Yep? Yeah, Nyah. 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Who's just giving a press conference in which he's claiming 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: he is alive. He just tut the conspiracy. Theorists at 100 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: the coffee shop the other day said that they thought 101 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: that was all Ai, but then they thought some I 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: got married. But there you go the good news, you guys. 103 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Here is the coffee shop to my left. 104 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: Oh. 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: I thought this was good news that could affect everybody. Look, 106 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: these are difficult, dark and decisive days. We're all feeling 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: a bit kind of like, ah, what's happening. It's got 108 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: COVID vibes. You know, we're a bit everything's a bit 109 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: topsy turvy and unsettling. I thought you were bringing to 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: the table good news for all of us. But this 111 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: is just literally good news for literally one person, just 112 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: for you. 113 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: No, no, no, oh my god, I'm gonna cry. Hey, okay, 114 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: other people go to the coffee shop. More people go 115 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: to the coffee shop. 116 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: You're only excited because now you'll get a decent espresso. 117 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. No, I'm our little thing, 118 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: a little shed out on the courtyard which came and 119 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: it went, and it came, and it went, and it 120 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: came and it went. What was it called the birdcage 121 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: or something? 122 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: I see? Good for them, good for. 123 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: You this morning. Well they're not back yet. But every 124 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: now and again we look out our window and we 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: see somebody come in and do something, and often it's 126 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: just they've come in to drop something or pick something up, 127 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: or and we think someone's got to do something with it. Anyway, 128 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: yesterday guy turns up and he starts moving some stuff. 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: This morning it's a construction site. There are cones, oh, 130 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: there are saw benches, there are guys with tools. They're 131 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: actually doing something and they're going to open it and 132 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be a new thing. So that's part 133 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: of the economic turnaround. The country is on the move, 134 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: and it's never been better exemplified by a small business 135 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: who somebody is taking a risk on is about to 136 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: open the door just in time for winter to service 137 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: all coffee. So it's going to be fantastic. And the 138 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: problem kating with you is that you're you're part of 139 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: the wind factor. Instead of celebrating this meeting, you're just 140 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: going like that. 141 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm just taking the posse. 142 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: No. 143 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I was talking with a girlfriend us today and it's 144 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: just the these are sort of this, These are difficult times. 145 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: You know, we're trying to move on, We're trying to 146 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: get a head, We're trying to do fun stuff like 147 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: for holidays and make decisions about real estate and stuff 148 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: like that, and it's like, ah, okay, run and so 149 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: now we're just like everything's out of our control all 150 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: the time. It feels like just when you think you 151 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: might be able to get a hit, the world turns 152 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: itself upside down again and then everything Do you know 153 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying? 154 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: What about Rod? What about Rod? So he's down on 155 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the company country, but once again he reminds us what 156 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: a great so that guy can live literally when you 157 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: were in the world he wants right, So why is 158 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: he living here? Because he's got hope and prospect for 159 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: the country and he can help pull a few leaders 160 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: to make that happen. So that's it. And so here's 161 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: my philosophy. This is the world, right, this is the 162 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: new world. The world is. You don't know what the 163 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: hell's coming next. Right if I'd said to you three 164 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago, someone's going to bomb around and you go, whatever, 165 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: So that's going to happen. Then there's going to be 166 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: another pandemic. Then there's going to be another war, then 167 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: there's going to be you know, who the hell knows 168 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with AI. So it is what 169 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: it is. So you either get on with it or 170 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: you don't. It is unsettling. 171 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: I agree it is, but it is unsettling. 172 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: It's unsettling, but I think you know, you've got to 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: it's and and look, it's not just you know, an 174 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: era of change, it's it's a change of era. We're 175 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: in a new environment. But it's like I think, you know, 176 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: I was reflecting on you Robbie Williams interview Mike, and 177 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: I thought Robbie was sort talking about I think it's 178 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: how you approach it. So he was talking about, oh, 179 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: I've got this unfillable hole, et cetera. 180 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: I was quite surprised. It's a bit of deficit thinking. 181 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: But what maybe if he looked at it as as. 182 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: The fact that we're all made to do something, and 183 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: there's something that we were just made to do, and 184 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: for him it's seeing him performing. Each of us need 185 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: to think, what is it that I was made to do? 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: And that's how you move forward. 187 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: That's the Japanese ikhagi, isn't it purpose? That's what keeps us, 188 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: you know, happy into our old age, is having feeling 189 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: like we've got a purpose? 190 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Is a Marie Connidas. 191 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: It's in the Blue Zones. 192 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Remember I love the Blue Well, the guy who did 193 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the Blue Zones, to be fair was a fraud. 194 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: So debunking the Blue Zones now, no, I'm. 195 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: Not debunking the Blue Zones, but the guy he did 196 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: the doco was a bit. He made a bit of 197 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: that up and it wasn't quite what they made it 198 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: out to be. So they're unsettling times for me who 199 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: brought into the Blue Zones. 200 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: And you know, I know now we're back at now, 201 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: we're back at the back at the negative. 202 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: All I know is I've never been happier and I'm 203 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: loving life. And if I you know, apart from that, 204 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure to beneath it. He But apart from that, 205 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: everything's going well. And there's a little guy opening his 206 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: coffee pop up and I've had a good week and 207 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: I've interviewed some good people. I got a good week 208 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: into heat. What more do you want? 209 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: You've got a blue blue wires jacket, and I was 210 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: going to ask you did you sleep in your jacket? 211 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 212 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: I did sleep. I did sleep in my silent sleep, 213 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: and I zip zipped it up. I zipped it out 214 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: right to the top, and I snuggled down with my 215 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: pillow on my head, and I dreamed of a third 216 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: victory against the nice. It is a cool jacket. And 217 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: you are right. 218 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: We just can control what we can control, what's right 219 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: in front of us. 220 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: There we go. I think we've settled the world nicely. 221 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: You guys have a lovely one. Took ourselves around exactly. 222 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: You see. It's been a good session after all. For 223 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks. 224 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,239 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 225 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.