1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: More of this cultural anks we seem to be fighting 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: over this time in the army, they paused the cultural 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: skills framework, right, it would require you to learn why 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Arta and Karakia off by heart while practicing Tea Kung 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: in order to move up the ranks. Due to Collins, 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: as of course, Defense Minister, and as well. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: This morning, good morning. You didn't know about this, no, 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: but as soon as I did, it's been paused and 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: it needs further consideration. Frankly, I wouldn't be able to 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: meet that requirement. And a soldier's ability to serve their 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: country has nothing to do with their ability to recite 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: Wyata or of k In. Absolutely not acceptable for this 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: to be a requirement. Certainly, it'd be nice for people 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: to do it, but look, I've just come back from 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Europe for the Munich Security Conference. I can tell you 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: over there they just don't want to end up speaking Russian. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: That's correct. Why is this stuff so rampant in the 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: public service? 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh, because it's had six years of it under the 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: previous regime. And I think also people become very self 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: satisfied with where we are if they think, well they 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: can do this, and you know, look we can do 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: it all on work time. The fact is that army 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: needs to be a fighting fit army. And yes, this 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: is nice, nice to be able to do, and it's 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: important in certain circumstances such as on Marie. But actually 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: I do not want this standing in the way of 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: someone being promoted and people actually understanding what the role is. 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: The role is to be a fighting fit army. 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: That's the real grievance for me, a tea hunger for promotion. 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: That's wrong. 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: It is absolutely wrong if you are working in a 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: situation where it is important to your job, because you 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: might be, for instance, someone who is dearly with local 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: man Fenowa and work on understand. But actually no, it 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: doesn't have to have everybody in this and it is 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: important that first and foremost we understand the primary and 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: basic role of army as well as everyone in the military, 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: and that is to be a fighting force. 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Were you in the 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: room when Marco gave a speech? 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I was, indeed, how do you see? Was that a 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: velvet glove to the jd vance Eyn Festival? 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I was one last year with Jady Vance's one too, 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: So yes, Marco Rubio's speech went down so well. He 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: got a standing ovation for the Europeans and that is 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you that is just extraordinary. And 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: he said pretty much the same message, but it was 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: done with. 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: A plom Do you reckon they're going to bomb a run? 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that they're going to do that, 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: but I do know there's an awful lot of assets 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: moving into the area. 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: All right, nice to talk to you. Appreciate it. Oh, 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: by the way, that that other job you got, the 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: Law Commission job, there seems to be a godfuffle around. 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: There were no other applications. This is this a stitch 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: up on those? 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: There's not normally applications. It certainly wasn't when Jeffrey Palmer 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: was appointed. And I think it's also people need to 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: understand it's sort of public service job as such. It's 63 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: an appointment under the Law Commission Act, and it's done 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: and it's absolutely in accordance with that. So I think, 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, the only ones who have been having a 66 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: bit of winch are people who thought maybe they should. 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Have it exactly all right, appreciate it. You have a 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: good Appreciate very much, Judith Colins. There you go. You 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: don't get that anywhere else on radio. Completely covered everything, 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: cover the world, covered around, covered the Maris in the army. 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: But I mean yet again. And there's been a bad 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: week for the government on this with the cultural leave 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: and that nonsense. Why is this stuff after two years 74 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: of government? Why is this stuff still happening? For goodness sake? 75 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: And Todd Stevenson was the act MP who sprung that, 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: by the way, so he deserves some For more from 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast. Listen live to News Talks at 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: B from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.