1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Bashah Alisad has reportedly fled to Moscow. Now Russian state 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: media is reporting that he and his family have been 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: granted asylum over there, and this is, of course, after 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: he fled Syria once the rebels took the capital of Damascus. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Sky News Middle East correspondent Alister Bunkler is with US now, Hey, 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Alistair Hi Heather and anyway, surprised that he's turned up 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: in Moscow. 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: No, I think if you were betting where Asad might 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: flee to, then Moscow or Tehran would probably be at 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: the top of your list. There was some room that 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: he might have gone to the United Arab Emirates. I 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: think a private jet was tracked in going in that direction. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: But no, I'm not surprised he's gone to Moscow. Russia 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: and Iran were two of Syria's biggest backers, and Russia 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: has a real strategic interest in Syria as well, and 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: so no, it doesn't surprise me that that is where 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: he's ended up. 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: So look, I mean, there are a lot of people 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: who are going to be celebrating the end of his tenure. 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: But the thing is whatever comes next may be worse, 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: maybe just as bad. How strong is the tie through 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: to Isis with these. 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: Rebels, I mean, that is the question. I mean in 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: terms of what comes next. Yeah, people are celebrating the 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: downfall of Assad. They're celebrating the demise of fifty four 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: years of an Assad dynasty that has ruled over Syria 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: with brutality. It's been a murderous regime. But you know, 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: we mustn't overlook the fact that a major part of 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: the group that has managed to overthrow him. And there's 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: multiple rebel groups, but the biggest of those is a 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: designated terrorist organization by the US, by the United Nations. 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: It had links with al Qaeda. And there are remnants 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: of Islamic State still in Syria and they've been kind 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: of kept sort of at bay over recent years. But 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: a power vacuum, which is what we have now, is 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: kind of the perfect environment for groups like Islamic State 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: to thrive in, to take advantage of. And that is 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: why that Yeah, I get on the one hand why 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: people in Syria are obviously celebrating this kind of new dawn, 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: but on the other hand, we do have to be 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: quite concerned about what comes next. 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Alistair, thanks for your expertise, mate. That's Alista buncle 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Sky News Middle East correspondent. 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio