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Speaker 1: The government's introducing legislation they want to change our parliamentary

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Speaker 1: terms from three to four years. The bill will be taken,

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Speaker 1: of course, it'll be voted on it, we'll go select

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Speaker 1: committee and will eventually end up as a referendum, so

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Speaker 1: we will all have our say. It has a caveat though,

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Speaker 1: designed by the Act Party, the term would only be

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Speaker 1: extended to four years if there are greater checks and

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Speaker 1: balances on the government and power i e. The Opposition

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Speaker 1: would have some majorities on some select committees. David Seymour

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Speaker 1: is the Act Leader exactly, Acting Prime Minister today too, good,

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Speaker 1: good evening to you, good evening, great to have you

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Speaker 1: on as always. So how does this actually work? Can

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Speaker 1: you just explain to us the steps here from this

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Speaker 1: proposal to it becoming potentially law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Can I just say step one is

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Speaker 2: you got to whether you're a Act voter, a Green voter,

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Speaker 2: anywhere in between, step back and say you don't know

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Speaker 2: who's going to be in power. The only question is

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Speaker 2: would we be better in general if it was four years

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Speaker 2: at a time instead of three years, And just make

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Speaker 2: it about that rather than which side you're on, because

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Speaker 2: everyone will be in and out in different times in

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Speaker 2: the future. Anyway. The second thing is at the moment

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Speaker 2: we've got a coalition agreement for the government to put

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Speaker 2: up my bill that I drafted an opposition and it

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Speaker 2: basically says we go to a four year term, but

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Speaker 2: with a catch that in order to get four years,

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Speaker 2: the government has to give the opposition control of the

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Speaker 2: Select committees. And there's a couple of reasons for that.

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Speaker 2: One is that I don't think the New Zealand public

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Speaker 2: will trust politicians with an extra year unless there's some

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Speaker 2: sort of check or balance in return, so I think

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Speaker 2: it's important for the politics of it. The second reason

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Speaker 2: is that I think it would be genuinely better if

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Speaker 2: laws had to go in front of a Select committee

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Speaker 2: for six months was run by the other guys to

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Speaker 2: beat it around. The Government of the day ultimately has

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Speaker 2: the power in Parliament to change it back to their way,

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Speaker 2: but at least you actually have a debate. Second of all,

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Speaker 2: when you have people like Adrian or for example, coming

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Speaker 2: before the Select Committee, or someone who runs a government department,

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Speaker 2: they're going to get more of a grilling from the

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Speaker 2: opposition than people in the government side.

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Speaker 1: I think people agree with Will agree with you there.

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Speaker 1: But my question is, so how do these two things

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Speaker 1: work together. You've got the proposed legislation and then you've

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Speaker 1: got your caveat. When, so when do we vote? Which

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Speaker 1: order does this go in?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of things. The first of all,

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Speaker 2: this law. So this law is going to be introduced,

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Speaker 2: the rest of the government may or may not support

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Speaker 2: it for the rest of the term, and then if

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Speaker 2: it gets passed through parliament, it or go to referendum,

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Speaker 2: and if it passes referendum, it becomes the law. So

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Speaker 2: that's the process part in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of you're with the caveat or without the caveat.

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Speaker 2: Well, at the moment it contains the caveat. And the

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Speaker 2: way the cavet it works is that let's say there

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Speaker 2: is an election and I don't know twenty thirty two when,

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Speaker 2: because this won't come into effect.

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, so you don't know who's going to

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Speaker 2: be in charge at the time. But let's say it's

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty two, there's an election, Prime Minister X wins

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Speaker 2: and he or she says, yep, I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: to four years. But they have to reassure the Governor

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Speaker 2: General that they're going to turn over the Select committees

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Speaker 2: to the opposition before the Governor General. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have four years and otherwise they just get three.

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Speaker 1: All right, and you haven't got the support of New

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Speaker 1: Zealand First or of the National Party beyond the first reading, right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's right, okay, all right, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for your time, David Seymour, who's the NEC Party leader.

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