Speaker 1: We'll go to Football Fevers. Hello. There after a brief break,
Speaker 1: we are back on Football Fever to discuss all things
Speaker 1: New Zealand football, specifically today our national teams. I'm Jason
Speaker 1: Pine with Bonnie Jensen alongside. Hello, Bonnie It Pinney.
Speaker 2: Good to be back, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's good to be back talking football. And as I say,
Speaker 1: there's a bit to talk. We will cover off Auckland
Speaker 1: City's ten yearl loss at the Club World Cup today
Speaker 1: as well, which is something that I'm sure none of
Speaker 1: us really expected to wake up to this morning, but
Speaker 1: we can cover that off as well as a couple
Speaker 1: of bits of transfer news. But let's start with our
Speaker 1: national teams, and we are in the next little while
Speaker 1: both going to reveal our picks for the All Whites
Speaker 1: twenty three man World Cup squad. Now I know we're
Speaker 1: a year away, but what we said is let's start
Speaker 1: talking about this now and we can revisit it. So
Speaker 1: what we've done, and well this is what I've done
Speaker 1: I hope you've done as well, is if Darren Baisley
Speaker 1: was naming his twenty three man squad today, who would
Speaker 1: be those twenty three names? Is that what you've done.
Speaker 2: That's what I've done.
Speaker 1: All right, that's good. That's what I've done too. Good
Speaker 1: to know we're on the same page. And then our
Speaker 1: messaging system is working well. Before we get to that,
Speaker 1: the All Whites at the Canadian Shield Tournament, they played
Speaker 1: Ivory Coast and Ukraine, two sides ranked a lot higher
Speaker 1: than they are. Ivory Coast forty first in the world,
Speaker 1: Ukraine twenty fifth. A one nil one over Ivory Coast.
Speaker 1: Let's start there. This is a pretty significant result, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was stoked for the Whites that they got
Speaker 3: this result. You and I have discussed Piney on many occasions,
Speaker 3: and I've been quite passionate about the fact I've been
Speaker 3: wanting the All Whites to play some tougher, higher ranked opposition.
Speaker 3: You know, we see them play either extremely high ranked
Speaker 3: opposition or you know, super low, and there's not been
Speaker 3: this nice middle. But that's what we saw in this tournament.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they held their own and obviously got the win.
Speaker 2: Over both games.
Speaker 3: They thought the All Whites looked like incredibly fit, or
Speaker 3: maybe not incredibly fit, but looked like they could hold
Speaker 3: their own. So that was something that kind of stood
Speaker 3: out to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what it also does is it replicates
Speaker 1: what will probably happen in a year from now where
Speaker 1: New Zealand will play. I mean, they're going to be
Speaker 1: in Pot four, so the lowest ranked sides in the
Speaker 1: World Cup draws, So they're going to come up against
Speaker 1: three sides in their group who are ranked higher than
Speaker 1: they are. And I don't think there's any surprise there.
Speaker 1: But what they showed against the team like Ivory Coast
Speaker 1: is that they can win these games. They didn't win
Speaker 1: the Ukraine game, but this is the kind of environment
Speaker 1: they're going to have to be in, playing not just
Speaker 1: two but three games in the space of let's say
Speaker 1: eight to twelve days, and have to get results in
Speaker 1: these games to get out of the group. Look, if
Speaker 1: they can turn up a year from now and win one,
Speaker 1: they'll against the side ranked in the forties in the world.
Speaker 1: That's a terrific outcome.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing I quite liked about this
Speaker 3: tournament is they replicate I mean, it's not fefa World
Speaker 3: Cup mindset, but they replicate kind of that tournament feeling
Speaker 3: and you know, it's about getting points and where you
Speaker 3: sit on the table. And there was potentially going to
Speaker 3: be a penalty shootout and things like that, so that
Speaker 3: was quite exciting to see you you felt like for
Speaker 3: me anyway, it felt like, Okay, now the preparations have
Speaker 3: started for this World Cup and you know, how good
Speaker 3: are we looking a year out and that's obviously only
Speaker 3: going to get closer. So yeah, I was impressed with
Speaker 3: the way they set out. Definitely still a lot to
Speaker 3: work on. We know how New Zealand, both on the
Speaker 3: men's and women's side, need to be more attacking, but
Speaker 3: the fact that they are scoring and then they're also
Speaker 3: quite strong at the back was promising.
Speaker 1: I think Ivory Coast was just a personification of exactly
Speaker 1: what you just said, is that we don't create a lot.
Speaker 1: We're normally pretty defensively sound against whoever it is that
Speaker 1: we're playing. So provided we hate those chances as we
Speaker 1: did in the Ivory Coast game, then that is not
Speaker 1: a bad blueprint for winning football matches at big tournaments
Speaker 1: like World Cups. ELI. Just you know, apart from that goal,
Speaker 1: there wasn't really much else in the way of clear
Speaker 1: cut goal scoring opportunities Ivory Coach, to be fair, I
Speaker 1: thought were a bit passive and really only sort of
Speaker 1: sprang to life in the last twenty minutes when they
Speaker 1: thought to themselves, man, we're going to lose to New
Speaker 1: Zealand here, which they did. But you know, Eli just
Speaker 1: terrific finish and a wonderful ball through from Marco Stamminich
Speaker 1: coming from you know, Staminich and Joe Bell breaking up
Speaker 1: play in midfield. It's almost, you know, if you were
Speaker 1: going to devise or create a perfect New Zealand goal,
Speaker 1: that would be it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a real team goal. And that's that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: They showed some really great glimpses of them being able
Speaker 3: to play and know while they're not going to have
Speaker 3: a lot of position against most of their opposition in
Speaker 3: this World Cup at a year's time, at least they
Speaker 3: can compete and pick their moments, you know, pick their
Speaker 3: moments to go forward through. You know that chance created
Speaker 3: that Eli just converted, you know, like that, they're going
Speaker 3: to have to pick their moments. What we don't want
Speaker 3: is them just just sitting off and parking the bus
Speaker 3: like we saw Auckland City do today against Bayern Munich.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like to see that that balance and
Speaker 3: them wanting to create a few more opportunities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or at least get on the ball as well.
Speaker 1: And the other thing I loved was that there wasn't
Speaker 1: utter elation at the end. I mean, beating a team that's,
Speaker 1: you know, forty odd places higher than you on the
Speaker 1: world rankings is cause for real satisfaction. But these guys
Speaker 1: are not now just content with being on the same pitch.
Speaker 1: They said, look, we you know, we had a game plan.
Speaker 1: We expected to win the game. They said the same
Speaker 1: after the Ukraine game. You know, losing two to one
Speaker 1: to Ukraine, a team ranked number twenty five in the world.
Speaker 1: On the face of things, that's a pretty good result.
Speaker 1: But they were not happy at all with it. So
Speaker 1: that's just this a continuation of this mindset. Now these
Speaker 1: players are all at professional clubs. Their job is to
Speaker 1: win football games or certainly not to lose them. And
Speaker 1: that's now permegating across the national team as well, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It makes me excited as well, knowing this team is
Speaker 3: actually still quite young. A lot of these players in
Speaker 3: the starting lineup went to the Olympics last year. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you've got the experience of Chris Wood and Costa and
Speaker 3: boxer and players like that. But a lot of them
Speaker 3: are quite young, and it's promising knowing in a year's time,
Speaker 3: you know, that much more experience that they'll hopefully have.
Speaker 1: And for the next World Cup after that, and who
Speaker 1: knows the one after that as well. Well. You look
Speaker 1: at our center back pairing in that first game, Finn
Speaker 1: Sermon Tyler Binden add their ages together, and it's only
Speaker 1: forty one. I mean, Michael Box's thirty seven by himself, So.
Speaker 2: You age shaming Michael bo not at all.
Speaker 1: I love the man. I love the man, and I
Speaker 1: think you know he is well and truly in the
Speaker 1: in the center back mix. But you know, Sermon and Binden,
Speaker 1: they just look like the future, don't they already? Tyler
Speaker 1: Binden very assured. Finn Sermon just seems to be to
Speaker 1: get his body in the way of any goal bound threat.
Speaker 1: How many clearances and blocks? And here is did he
Speaker 1: get across these two gates?
Speaker 3: Oh he's so good at Finn Zimmon, And I'm so
Speaker 3: glad he kept going. I feel like perhaps I doubted
Speaker 3: him a little bit after he left the Phoenix. I
Speaker 3: thought maybe that was a little bit prematurer of him
Speaker 3: to go when he was still so young, but he's
Speaker 3: obviously over in the mls now and from what I've
Speaker 3: seen from reports over there, he's an absolute star. And
Speaker 3: I was so glad he got the start for the
Speaker 3: All Whites. I feel like it's good Darren Baisley is
Speaker 3: starting to get Binden and Sermon playing alongside each other
Speaker 3: because you know, in a year's time they will be
Speaker 3: a little bit older and hopefully that the starting pair
Speaker 3: at the World Cup.
Speaker 1: I didn't like Tyler bind And playing it right back
Speaker 1: in the second game. I have to say, it just
Speaker 1: is not his position. I know they probably wanted to
Speaker 1: give Michael box All a game, but for me and
Speaker 1: I don't think tylervind And will play there again. It's
Speaker 1: Tim Payne's position, and he's not on this trip, or
Speaker 1: wasn't on this trip because he was waiting for the
Speaker 1: arrival of his first first child. But it was it
Speaker 1: just felt makeshift to me having having time. In fact,
Speaker 1: it felt makeshift to me having built tu Iloma out
Speaker 1: there in the first game, you know, without I just
Speaker 1: don't know why they why why Darren basically didn't give
Speaker 1: Callen Elliott a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is interesting. Callen did get.
Speaker 3: On the pitch and both games, both games, and I
Speaker 3: do wonder when you've got that many center backs, why
Speaker 3: don't you look at it a back three.
Speaker 2: He seems pretty fixated on this back four.
Speaker 3: But I mean, maybe it was an opportunity by bringing
Speaker 3: that many center backs along to to give it a
Speaker 3: go see how it works.
Speaker 2: He's played a back three before.
Speaker 3: Maybe that, yeah, that was the way to go and
Speaker 3: drop someone like Eli just a bit a bit deeper.
Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we'll see it again. Like I say,
Speaker 1: I think Tim Payne will come back in probably be
Speaker 1: the first choice right back for the for the rest
Speaker 1: of the build up to the World Cup and at
Speaker 1: the World Cup itself. Most players got a game. We'll
Speaker 1: get to the goalkeepers in a sec. With Max Crokham
Speaker 1: playing both matches and their entirety, so Alex Paulson and
Speaker 1: Nick shanev didn't play. The only other two players in
Speaker 1: the squad who didn't get some game time when Nando
Speaker 1: Pineker and Tommy Smith. I just wonder what Nando Pinikers
Speaker 1: immediate future isn't the all Whites. I think he's definitely
Speaker 1: one of the top four or five center backs. But Bindon, Sermon,
Speaker 1: Boxel all ahead of him. I just wonder when he'll
Speaker 1: play for the All Whites again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do wonder that as well, Piney, and I
Speaker 3: don't think right now he's a starter, and I don't
Speaker 3: think he's a starter at the World Cup. And as
Speaker 3: we'll discuss with our squads, I do have him in
Speaker 3: a squad because I would rather bring someone like Nando
Speaker 3: off the bench to replace you know, Sermon or Binden
Speaker 3: in there, then I would Tommy Smith. You know, as
Speaker 3: much as Tommy Smith's a icon around that team and
Speaker 3: a store war Nando, I just probably trust a little
Speaker 3: bit more at the back. And if he's not getting
Speaker 3: minutes at this this World Cup or you know, in
Speaker 3: the next year, between now and the World Cup, he's
Speaker 3: probably involved in the next silent cycle and he might
Speaker 3: just be like a Tommy Smith is now and go
Speaker 3: with this team for the next few years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And look, I think Tyler Bindon's emergence has been,
Speaker 1: you know, so good and so rapid that now he
Speaker 1: is the left side of center back and it's really
Speaker 1: now who plays alongside Tilerband. I think you and I
Speaker 1: had this conversation after the last World Cup qualifiers when
Speaker 1: he was so impressive across those matches all but yet
Speaker 1: against the likes of Fiji and New Caledonia. But he arrived,
Speaker 1: you know, and now he's like, Okay, well, there's no
Speaker 1: question Tyler Bindon plays who plays alongside and that, and
Speaker 1: I think the collateral damage from that or part of
Speaker 1: it is Nando Pinekeer. But but yeah, well I've still
Speaker 1: got him in my squad. I'll reveal one of my
Speaker 1: twenty three to you, and I know you have as well,
Speaker 1: so we can get to that. A couple of questions
Speaker 1: for you, will Alex Paul and get a game and
Speaker 1: goal anytime soon?
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it, And I'm so annoyed because
Speaker 3: it's the times running out, Like it's the World Cups
Speaker 3: a year away. There's probably four or five windows between
Speaker 3: now and then, and I feel like if he is
Speaker 3: going to be the starting keeper at the World Cup,
Speaker 3: which we've discussed as probably likely, he's going to need
Speaker 3: to be getting minutes with this all white side between
Speaker 3: now and then. So I'm not sure. I feel like
Speaker 3: Darren Bezy is all non croakhm.
Speaker 1: I agree, and this window is the demonstration of that.
Speaker 1: I was almost positive that Alex Paulson would get a
Speaker 1: game on this on this trip, that he would play
Speaker 1: one or both of the one or probably not both,
Speaker 1: because you know, Beays has been very, very loyal to
Speaker 1: Max Chrokam and he's done nothing wrong, so he can't
Speaker 1: drop him. But I just thought this was the opportunity
Speaker 1: to give Alex Paulson a game against a high quality opposition.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have matter which game, but you know, like and
Speaker 1: often and often, loyalty, You know, loyalty is a wonderful quality,
Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant quality, but the overplaying of that can sometimes
Speaker 1: be a weakness. And I'm not saying that Max Crokum
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve to be there, but Alex Poulson continues to
Speaker 1: present an irresistible case every time he plays a game
Speaker 1: of football. Two times a league goalkeeper of the year,
Speaker 1: and I know it's only the A League, but you
Speaker 1: know Max Crokum isn't playing the Premier League. He's playing
Speaker 1: down the leagues in England and playing well. I just
Speaker 1: think he has to give him a game at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has to get a go.
Speaker 3: I really want to be inside that camp and know
Speaker 3: the conversations that are being had and I have you
Speaker 3: asked Bays? I feel like I need to ask him
Speaker 3: the next the next media opportunity to get with the
Speaker 3: All Whites. It's something I haven't asked him yet.
Speaker 1: I think he gets asked most times that they get together,
Speaker 1: and his answer is always you know, around the fact
Speaker 1: that that why would you drop somebody who hasn't done
Speaker 1: anything wrong? I guess the difficulty is with goalkeepers. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're a if you're an outfield player and you
Speaker 1: can't get a game in a in a certain position,
Speaker 1: you might get on in another position, you know, or
Speaker 1: you might come off the bench. Very rare for a
Speaker 1: goalkeeper to come off the bench unless there's an injury
Speaker 1: and and goalkipers can't lay any other positions.
Speaker 2: So what do you mean? I think Alex Pauson would
Speaker 2: would work all right up top.
Speaker 1: Maybe he would Nobody would be expecting it, it would
Speaker 1: be it would be a bold move.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and to be fear to croakham as well.
Speaker 3: I actually thought he played really well in that second
Speaker 3: game and yeah, yeah, absolutely, So it is tough and
Speaker 3: maybe we feel this bias towards Alex Porson because we
Speaker 3: see him on the TV every weekend. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just wonder if you know, Paulson's back
Speaker 3: in Bournemouth now. Auckland NEFC announced that the other day,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you just wonder if he's going to pull
Speaker 3: a head or he's already pulling ahead and he's just
Speaker 3: not getting that opportunity and we need to see it.
Speaker 1: We has to play it as well. That's something he
Speaker 1: has to play in the twelve months between now and
Speaker 1: the World Cup and that won't be at bournemouthal would
Speaker 1: and imagine it'll be on loan somewhere. So it may
Speaker 1: well come down to him finding a happy place to
Speaker 1: be over the next twelve months where he's playing every week,
Speaker 1: continues to develop, you know, and continues to push. I
Speaker 1: think really Max Crokham and Alex Paulson are in a
Speaker 1: head to head twelve month trial to see who starts
Speaker 1: the first game of the World Cup, and whoever that's
Speaker 1: the first game is likely to play all three really,
Speaker 1: that's normally the way it goes unless there's an utter catastrophe.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll largely depend I think on where Alex
Speaker 1: Paulson ends up and how often he plays and how
Speaker 1: Max Crokam continues to play Francis Devrees. He came on
Speaker 1: in the second game late on would You be a
Speaker 1: Fan of? And there seems to be a bit of
Speaker 1: a clamor for this of Francis Derees starting on the
Speaker 1: left side of a back four and Libby Cacaci playing
Speaker 1: further forward.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure about that, just because I feel
Speaker 3: like Eli just plays on the left.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, the right. Now he plays on the left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although pops up on the right, but that the Kacacchi
Speaker 1: just left hand side has been quite common, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: I just wonder if I was a bit surprised at
Speaker 3: the lack of game time Franny got in this window.
Speaker 3: And I do want to see that a little bit more.
Speaker 3: But I wonder if it's a little bit late and
Speaker 3: they're not going to get enough time to.
Speaker 2: Work that out, because that is a big.
Speaker 3: Kind of mindset shift for someone like Libby, who we
Speaker 3: know is exceptional. I also think we're gonna oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we're probably going to be more
Speaker 3: defensive minded at the World Cup, and and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe having Libby Ford, Libby's a stronger defensive player, we
Speaker 3: lose him at the back a little bit, but then
Speaker 3: at the same time, I guess he's defending from the front.
Speaker 2: It's a tricky one.
Speaker 3: I just think we're running out of time for for
Speaker 3: something like that to happen.
Speaker 2: That would that would take you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's not like a club team where you're in
Speaker 3: and out of tradings every day.
Speaker 1: I think that from what I can see, the reason
Speaker 1: that people like the idea of Francis Devrees playing is
Speaker 1: that we know how good a crossing is and Chris
Speaker 1: Wood is our main source of goals. Now, Chris would
Speaker 1: only play ten minutes in each of these two games,
Speaker 1: so there wasn't really time to test the theory. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think if you're including a defender because
Speaker 1: they're a good crosser, then perhaps you've got things slightly
Speaker 1: around the wrong way. I love Francis Devrez's wide skill set.
Speaker 1: He is. He's a terrific crosser of the football, an
Speaker 1: open play from set pieces, and clearly had a breakout
Speaker 1: season for Auckland FC. But if you're suggesting, or if
Speaker 1: people are suggesting that Francis Devrees an a league defender,
Speaker 1: is a better bet than Libby Cacacci, a seri are
Speaker 1: defender at left back, then I think we need to
Speaker 1: probably examine things a bit deeper. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: you can just pick a guy just because he's good
Speaker 1: at crossing the ball if his core role is to defend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think as well, I actually think Libby's
Speaker 3: probably biggest floor is crossing, so that that's kind of
Speaker 3: a tricky thing there, that which lets Libby down. But
Speaker 3: you're right, he's a quality defender and he's the captain
Speaker 3: of this team. They're not not starting him. They just
Speaker 3: they don't have enough time to make that work. But
Speaker 3: in saying that, Francis Avari is a great player to
Speaker 3: bring off the bench and bring on an attacking opportunity
Speaker 3: if you if you're down one another or something like that.
Speaker 3: So I still think he needs to be in the
Speaker 3: squad without a doubt in getting minutes every game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, they brought him on against New Caledonia, didn't they,
Speaker 1: And he delivered the corner that Michael Boxill score the
Speaker 1: goal from, So you know that that was It's you're right,
Speaker 1: as a as a weapon off the bench, outstanding. But
Speaker 1: I just don't think he takes the place of Libby.
Speaker 1: Cakarchie not that we're suggesting that. I think we all
Speaker 1: agree Leby Cacachi is in the eleven. It's just where
Speaker 1: you push him further forward. But like you, I like,
Speaker 1: I like Eli. Just there. Matt Garbin and Ben Wayne
Speaker 1: need to find themselves a football club. That's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1: They are both of contract. I'm hearing hearing fairly strong
Speaker 1: male about Ben Wayne to Walkland f C. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you're hearing that as well, But that's that's
Speaker 1: that rumor is gaining traction by the day. Max Mutter
Speaker 1: of course has gone back to Shrewsbury, so there is
Speaker 1: a there's an opening there for for an out and
Speaker 1: out number nine. Ben Wayne and Guizmo may alongside one another.
Speaker 3: I think Wayne knows a lot stronger than probably Max
Speaker 3: Mutter is at the moment, so that'd be a huge
Speaker 3: signing for Auckland f C. I know I understand that
Speaker 3: they were kind of in discussions maybe around Costa or
Speaker 3: like whether it's worth putting an offer to Costa or not.
Speaker 3: They were potentially keen to look somewhere, look for someone
Speaker 3: younger perhaps, and Ben Wayne kind of fits the brief,
Speaker 3: doesn't he.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if it does, if it does come to pass,
Speaker 1: then I think that's that's a very very good decision
Speaker 1: by Ben Wayne.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been suck for the Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think you got to leave them out
Speaker 1: of it. You know. If they I'm sure they knew
Speaker 1: that he was off contract or that, you know, so
Speaker 1: they could have gone to them if they'd wanted to.
Speaker 1: They may have. He might end up at Wellington. But
Speaker 1: what I mean is, I think it's it's great that
Speaker 1: Ben Wayne hasn't said to himself, no, I'm not going
Speaker 1: back to the A League, because that's a backward step
Speaker 1: in this twelve months between now and the World Cup.
Speaker 1: At the risk of just banging the same drum podcast
Speaker 1: after podcast, all these guys have to be playing, don't they.
Speaker 3: They have to be playing, Yeah, exactly, And I mean
Speaker 3: we're going to go through our preferred squads soon. But
Speaker 3: it's hard to leave these players off. And if they're
Speaker 3: not getting minutes, you know, they're immediately Yeah, they're not
Speaker 3: helping themselves.
Speaker 1: All right. So Matt Carvett as well, he'll turn up somewhere,
Speaker 1: don't know where yet. And yeah, on Costa, well, all
Speaker 1: signs suggest that he's going to Western Sydney Wanderers. As
Speaker 1: of today, which is Monday, the sixteenth of June. No
Speaker 1: announcement yet, but expect that Costa Barusus will turn up
Speaker 1: at the Western Sydney Wanderers at some stage soon. Great
Speaker 1: also to see a bunch of the all Whites boys
Speaker 1: supporting Ryan Fox at the Canadian Golf Open til and
Speaker 1: getting themselves onto CBS and all sorts of other television
Speaker 1: channels and across social media. I thought that was really cool,
Speaker 1: the way that they were able to turn up there
Speaker 1: and support support Ryan Fox and obviously a lucky charm
Speaker 1: because he won in a playoff. This is what's okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's name our name our World Cup squads.
Speaker 1: If Darren Baisley was naming his World Cup squad of
Speaker 1: twenty three today, now we still don't know whether it's
Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty six. We've gone with twenty three
Speaker 1: because I wanted to make this a little bit harder
Speaker 1: on us that we have to leave some people out.
Speaker 1: So I think the way we do this. Have you
Speaker 1: done it in position order? Is that the way you've
Speaker 1: done it? All? Right? Well, let's go through and position order. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I've named three goalkeepers? Have you got three?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Minor Max Krokum, Alex Paulson and Olie Sale.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I've gone Crokam, Paulson and Zanev.
Speaker 1: All right, So you're going with recent So I'm also.
Speaker 3: Put a note that if Michael valdor Oli Sale have
Speaker 3: a good A League season that they'll be in there.
Speaker 1: All right. I think Crocam and Paulson are on the plane, right.
Speaker 1: I think we can put them on the plane and
Speaker 1: head to head for that starting role. I've got Sale
Speaker 1: because he's been in and around the group for the
Speaker 1: last sort of three or four years. He was number
Speaker 1: one in the last World Cup cycle in that game
Speaker 1: against Costa Rica, wasn't he? And left out of this one.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he might have quite a big
Speaker 1: season at Perth Glory and I'd put him in for
Speaker 1: that reason. But Nick Xaranev, yeah, he was well, he
Speaker 1: was chosen over Sale recently, wasn't he? So maybe who knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly? And that's are we doing the squad? If it
Speaker 3: was named tomorrow, would you take Olie sal Or tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I still would, Yes, I still would. I still would
Speaker 1: even though Sarni was the was the most recent inclusion
Speaker 1: didn't get close to getting a game their third goalkeeper.
Speaker 1: One's really interesting to me because they know it's highly
Speaker 1: unlikely they're going to get a game, right. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost unheard of for the for the third
Speaker 1: goalkeeper to get a game unless there are injuries. So
Speaker 1: I feel like it needs to be somebody who knows
Speaker 1: that you still.
Speaker 3: That's why I worry about it being only say it
Speaker 3: was because I feel like he'll be gutted that he's
Speaker 3: not there, and you know, there's probably I don't know.
Speaker 3: This is me speculating there might be a bit of
Speaker 3: beef between between him and Paulson after Paulson, you know,
Speaker 3: came up behind him and Sean, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, so SONEV for you, sale for me?
Speaker 1: All right, let's do defenders. I'll give you my list.
Speaker 1: In fact, we now, why don't you give me your
Speaker 1: list of defenders and the old tick. I'll tick the
Speaker 1: ones that we have in common and then see where
Speaker 1: we differ. So who are your defenders?
Speaker 3: So I've got eight I've named eight defenders. Tim Payne, Tyler, Binden,
Speaker 3: Finn Sermon, Libby Ka, Michael Box or Tommy Smith, Francis
Speaker 3: Direes and Nando Parneker.
Speaker 1: All right, I've named nine and I've left a player
Speaker 1: out further up, and I'll explain why in a moment.
Speaker 1: I've got those eight, and I've added Callen Elliott.
Speaker 3: That's so funny because I've got Kellen Elliott. But I've
Speaker 3: got a note down below as well what it'll be
Speaker 3: between him and a Ford.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so in my ear, I've gone with an
Speaker 1: extra defender and one fewer attackers, so I've taken Elliott
Speaker 1: as well. So the way I did it. And see
Speaker 1: with your right, you've only got one right back there,
Speaker 1: and that's Tim Payin right, and you've said, okay, well,
Speaker 1: Tyler Binda can play there if you needs to, whereas
Speaker 1: I've gone with Elliott to back up Pain, and I've
Speaker 1: included Tommy Smith. And there might be a bit of
Speaker 1: conjecture about this. Tommy Smith I think is the fifth
Speaker 1: center back. Would you agree he's the fifth center back?
Speaker 1: But in a squad situation, I think you have to
Speaker 1: have him there. Well, certainly Darren Baisley likes to have
Speaker 1: him there because of what he contributes to the group.
Speaker 1: Is that the rationale you've gone with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just based on our discussions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he is there is from
Speaker 3: a leadership point of view, and as a closer, I
Speaker 3: guess as we've seen him in Auckland f C games,
Speaker 3: we probably won't see him take the park anytime soon
Speaker 3: or at the World Cup at all. But yeah, just
Speaker 3: from a leadership perspective, that's why I've got him in there.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff? All right? So eight defenders for you,
Speaker 1: So you've got to place up your sleeve further forward,
Speaker 1: which I don't have. Let's go to midfield. My midfielders,
Speaker 1: Joe Bell, Marco Staminic, Sarprek, Singh, Ben Old, Matt Garbett,
Speaker 1: Alex Rufer and Ryan Thomas. Oh, who have you.
Speaker 2: Got worked out?
Speaker 3: My math's wrong. I've got all of those guys except
Speaker 3: Ryan Thomas.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool?
Speaker 3: And I just said that Ryan Thomas takes Rufer's spot
Speaker 3: if he's fit.
Speaker 1: All right. So you've only got six midfielders, yeap, all right.
Speaker 1: I just think Ryan Thomas, if he's fit, and you've
Speaker 1: said that as well, he comes in. So I've got
Speaker 1: because I've got him there as well as I've only
Speaker 1: got four forwards. I've only got four strikers.
Speaker 2: Oh r, my math isn't mathing.
Speaker 1: You'll have six with you. You've probably got six strikers, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: So I've only gone with four and i'll again i'll
Speaker 1: explain why. But yeah, I've got Ryan Thomas because yeah,
Speaker 1: and you probably feel the same way if he gets
Speaker 1: through the next season with Pegswaller in the Netherlands, I
Speaker 1: think you take him. I think they'll bring him into
Speaker 1: the to the team at the back end of this year.
Speaker 1: And I didn't just think he's a quality player, isn't he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree.
Speaker 3: I think Rufe is on the on the cusp for
Speaker 3: me on the fringe, and I wonder if yeah, you
Speaker 3: take take Ryan Thomas over over him? All going well,
Speaker 3: all right, so you've got six strikers, yep, who are they?
Speaker 3: I've got Costa Eli, just Callum Cowitt, Ben Wayne, Chris Wood,
Speaker 3: and then I've got, as I alluded to before, I've
Speaker 3: got Logan Rogerson in there. But I think it comes
Speaker 3: down to think, I think the big question and is
Speaker 3: it my twenty three? Is is it Logan Rogerson or
Speaker 3: call and Elliott. I think it'll be between those two
Speaker 3: whether Bays wants to take one more defender or one
Speaker 3: more forward.
Speaker 1: All right, well I've got Wood obviously, and just and
Speaker 1: Barbarusis and Macowart. Ben Wayne misses my squad, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, and I'll tell you why, because the more
Speaker 1: I think about it, the more I think we don't
Speaker 1: need a like for like for Chris Wood. I feel
Speaker 1: like Chris Wood. The reason Ben Wayne's in the team
Speaker 1: at the moment is because he's the most like Chris Wood.
Speaker 1: As when Max Mutter plays, he's the most like Chris Wood.
Speaker 1: All things being equal, Chris Wood will play ninety minutes
Speaker 1: in all three matches at the World Cup. But if
Speaker 1: you need to change it up, you're not going to
Speaker 1: bring on a lesser version of Chris Wood. You're not
Speaker 1: going to take Chris Wood off and bring Ben Wayne on.
Speaker 1: You're not going to take Chris Wood off and bring
Speaker 1: Max Marter on. You just leave Chris Wood on. So
Speaker 1: for me, it's a situation like what happened against New
Speaker 1: Caledonia that if Chris Wood comes off, you change the
Speaker 1: way you play and you put Costa Barbarusis on, for example.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately for me, Ben Wayne doesn't make the twenty three.
Speaker 1: The only other wild card I had, and this is
Speaker 1: way left field, Bonnie, is if you want something really
Speaker 1: different that nobody really has seen and no, no, you
Speaker 1: know Opposition Nations can scout something that's a bit of
Speaker 1: a wild card, I would take. I would take Luke
Speaker 1: brook Smith.
Speaker 2: I thought you're going to say Corbyn Piper.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't take Corbyn Piper just yet. I would
Speaker 1: take Luke brook Smith because he's well, did you see
Speaker 1: his goals for the under twenties?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I did it. You need to look at his goals
Speaker 1: for the under twenties if you really want something off
Speaker 1: the bench that is different, a young fresh but.
Speaker 3: I think something that is different as Corbyn Piper, like
Speaker 3: a different style player. But whereas like Luke brook Smith
Speaker 3: is just like a young.
Speaker 1: Young quick guy exactly running it tired defenders.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: I think the only way I can get him into
Speaker 1: the team is if I drop a defender so and
Speaker 1: so I could take. I could potentially take callan Elliott
Speaker 1: out and bring Luke Brooksmith. And I honest, Bonnie, honestly
Speaker 1: write this down. June the sixteenth, twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 1: day that I said that Luke Brooksmith might go to
Speaker 1: the World Cup. Okay, you obviously haven't got him on
Speaker 1: your list.
Speaker 3: Good luck with that. I actually like you. By the
Speaker 3: colleagues in the office can actually test this. I actually
Speaker 3: cuckled a little bit. I laughed a little bit out
Speaker 3: loud when I saw you had it on the wider
Speaker 3: the wider list that I was meant to pick from.
Speaker 3: When you send it through to me on the email,
Speaker 3: did you love I love Luke Brooksmith. I think he's
Speaker 3: had a great season with the Phoenix. But I did
Speaker 3: when you said that through the bigger list, the long list,
Speaker 3: I did laugh about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Luke Brooksmith, come on.
Speaker 1: See so and just on the other ones you have.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Logan Rogerson, I don't think he makes it
Speaker 1: just I just think there, like I say, there are
Speaker 1: too many in the queue ahead of them. I mean
Speaker 1: Ben old Is, isn't it and Startbrege saying are attacking midfielders,
Speaker 1: you got just You've got Macowitt, You've got Barbarusis. I
Speaker 1: just don't see how Logan Rogerson makes that team.
Speaker 2: Well, I will.
Speaker 3: Say I did have a question mark over both Kallen
Speaker 3: Elliott and Logan Rogerson and I said it will be
Speaker 3: either between those two, and they'll probably take Callen for
Speaker 3: a more defensive mindset team in the World Cup. And
Speaker 3: remember Steve Corrick at Auckland ne FC coach would bring
Speaker 3: on Callen up top as well, so we know he
Speaker 3: can play a little bit higher. He just offers a
Speaker 3: little bit more versatility than someone like Logan does. In
Speaker 3: saying that, I will give Michael Burgess, our senior football
Speaker 3: writer at the Herald of shout out, he made a
Speaker 3: good point with me were discussing this before that. Imagine
Speaker 3: not bringing someone like Logan Rogerson and you bring someone
Speaker 3: like Tommy Smith along who's sitting on the bench for
Speaker 3: leadership purposes, where Logan Rogerson could add something to the
Speaker 3: team on the field, so that there is a bit
Speaker 3: of a question mark around that as well.
Speaker 1: I agree, agree, And that's I think where you play
Speaker 1: the squad game. You say, okay, well, if Logan Rogerson
Speaker 1: is the twenty third man in the squad, under what
Speaker 1: circumstances will he get on the pitch? See, you can't
Speaker 1: take Logan Rogerson and Luke brook Smith Planer, Please other
Speaker 1: guys got written down who are in the mix? Built
Speaker 1: to Ilama simply because he's been in the latest squad.
Speaker 1: Storm rou who I think is probably the third right back.
Speaker 1: I think Kell and Elliot chading it at the moment. Max
Speaker 1: Mutter Sam Sutton is probably in the mix on the
Speaker 1: left hand side, but Divrez and Cacaci seem to have
Speaker 1: the front two positions, and Nick Sarne who you've put
Speaker 1: in the team. So yeah, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like Beays knows twenty of us twenty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as well as quick as this is
Speaker 3: coming around and it's a year out now, there is
Speaker 3: a long way to go still, and there's a whole
Speaker 3: season of EPL, and there's a whole or you know
Speaker 3: European leagues rather, and there's a whole season of a
Speaker 3: league to go as well. There's probably injuries, dare I
Speaker 3: say at Touchwood to some of these players, and as
Speaker 3: you say, Piney, they've got to be playing. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that the script isn't written yet, but as
Speaker 3: we say, if it was, if it was announced tomorrow,
Speaker 3: this is what we'd have, all right.
Speaker 1: I think we should do this again, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe just before Christmas, after the next couple of windows,
Speaker 1: and then obviously, probably a couple of times before the
Speaker 1: squad is actually named. I get the feeling that Basil
Speaker 1: name it probably about March of next year. I think
Speaker 1: there's a window in March. Maybe he names it before that,
Speaker 1: and that's the squad that plays that window. But you're right,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of water to flow under the bridge
Speaker 1: between between now and the World Cup. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: eighteen months ago, do we even know who Tyler Binden was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's only about thirteen years old.
Speaker 3: To be fair, he'll probably he'll probably wear the bloody
Speaker 3: armband by that point.
Speaker 1: Seriously, future New Zealand captain, absolutely no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: All right, So those are our squads. We'll revisit them
Speaker 1: in a few months.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our football Ferns, who are back from
Speaker 1: a two game window in Spain against Venezuela, a three
Speaker 1: to one loss and a two to one win, the
Speaker 1: first games with Michael Maine as official head coach, although
Speaker 1: he's been interim head coach for quite some time now.
Speaker 1: In general terms, was this window of success?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I thought that three to one loss. I was just
Speaker 3: thinking classic. You know, they've made them with the same
Speaker 3: old football Ferns.
Speaker 2: You know, we were all.
Speaker 3: Excited this new era under Michael Maine and then bam,
Speaker 3: just as it is as it always has been. Recently,
Speaker 3: I thought that the bounce back win was good but
Speaker 3: probably expected.
Speaker 1: Do we have to take into account that if we
Speaker 1: are naming our best eleven five of them not there?
Speaker 1: No CJ. Bott, no Katie Bowen, no Mascy Fraser, no
Speaker 1: India page Rightley, Nomalia Stein Metz. So that's five pretty
Speaker 1: big players out, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It is.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like, do we even know if
Speaker 3: Michael Main sees CJ. Bott and Katie Bowen in his
Speaker 3: best eleven? Because I mean I do. I see it
Speaker 3: that there are two best players, and I'm sure you
Speaker 3: do as well, Piney, But right now Michael Main's made
Speaker 3: it pretty clear that he hasn't wanted them in the squad.
Speaker 3: So that is all a bit confusing. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: lineups were interesting. He was clearly testing things out, and
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you when you're kind of in between in
Speaker 3: between World Cup cycles.
Speaker 1: He likes a different formation from Darren Baisley, isn't it.
Speaker 1: He likes the three at the back with the wing
Speaker 1: backs and he uses his wing backs. They're almost I
Speaker 1: mean when you say wingbacks, the back part of it
Speaker 1: is the defensive part of it. But the players who
Speaker 1: played in those positions Grace Neville and Grace Jarleigh in
Speaker 1: the first game and then Maniah and Jackie Hand in
Speaker 1: the second alp and they were attacking players for the
Speaker 1: most part, particularly Jarlay Hand and Elliot an't they Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was a bit all over the place, I thought.
Speaker 3: And yeah, as I say, meant, you know, he's clearly
Speaker 3: testing the waters, seeing what he's got around. Still obviously
Speaker 3: very keen to get Annale Longo in there. And that
Speaker 3: was another one that I didn't mention, I don't think
Speaker 3: on the pod, but he kind of spoke about how
Speaker 3: he doesn't mind that Annale Longo's not playing club football
Speaker 3: but as long as she's performing for the Football Ferns,
Speaker 3: and I think that's, yeah, all a bit contradictory and confusing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not quite sure what space the Football
Speaker 3: Ferns are in at the moment, but it's clearly are
Speaker 3: a growth growth stage, I guess.
Speaker 1: I think Anally Longer might have the shortest retirement industry.
Speaker 1: I reckon she'll be back playing for the Phoenix this summer.
Speaker 3: It's giving like Porscha Woodman Wickliffe in the rugby will
Speaker 3: cut the black funs.
Speaker 1: Well, certainly because it's almost now. It's probably it's the
Speaker 1: worst kept secret in football circles is that Bev Priestman
Speaker 1: will take that role. She will be the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Wellington Phoenix women and they're already in the
Speaker 1: market with a couple of big signings and as I
Speaker 1: understand it from talking to a couple of people over
Speaker 1: the weekend, a couple more big ones to come. I
Speaker 1: think Analie Longo won't be able to resist the temptation
Speaker 1: of playing football under Beev Priestman if she still wants
Speaker 1: to play for the Football Ferns as well when she
Speaker 1: can't not play club football, or she wants to still
Speaker 1: play for New Zealand exactly.
Speaker 3: And that's why I was so confused by what Michael
Speaker 3: Maine was saying. It's like, well, can like other people
Speaker 3: just not play club football and just play for the
Speaker 3: Ferns And.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really work like that. So yeah, I agree
Speaker 2: with you, Piney.
Speaker 3: I think she'll be back at the Phoenix from what
Speaker 3: I understand anyway, there are you know she is more
Speaker 3: keen to play under the likes of Bev Priestman. If
Speaker 3: she is as you say, if that does come to
Speaker 3: fruition and she is the coach.
Speaker 1: Who do you think enhanced their reputation across these two games?
Speaker 1: Who played well across the two games?
Speaker 3: Good question? I would say probably. I thought Kate Taylor
Speaker 3: stood out at the back. I thought she is quite
Speaker 3: good on the ball, quite commanding at the back. Vick
Speaker 3: Essen as well. You know, there's no an elite She's
Speaker 3: where is Analyte. An elite is injured. She's got a
Speaker 3: really bad concussion. But at the same time she has
Speaker 3: been playing for High Biscus Coast up Top. I understand
Speaker 3: she's also been down at Eastern Suburbs Football Club, where
Speaker 3: she could.
Speaker 2: Maybe be moving to.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought, yeah, Vick Easton stood out for
Speaker 3: me and Kate Taylor. Yeah, it was quite commanding at
Speaker 3: the back.
Speaker 1: So just back to Analyte presumably going to Eastern Suburbs
Speaker 1: to playing Gold.
Speaker 2: Oh God, you'd hope.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know that girl, but I also understand she
Speaker 3: is in talks with a league club, and I think
Speaker 3: if Yev Priestman is that Phoenix coach. A lot of
Speaker 3: players will want to go and play for her. You know,
Speaker 3: we know this history with the whole drone gate thing,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure top players like an elite and others,
Speaker 3: probably other football fans as well, we'll look past that
Speaker 3: and say, hey, I want to play for an Olympic
Speaker 3: gold medalist coach, and yeah, I would love that opportunity
Speaker 3: for that to happen.
Speaker 1: Stephen Hoyle he used to coach, hees some Suburbs, didn't
Speaker 1: He's over at the new Castle Jets now, is that right?
Speaker 1: Have I got that right?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: You have, Yes, Steve O's my former coach actually at
Speaker 3: Eastern Suburbs. I was stoked to hear that news that
Speaker 3: he had signed with Newcastle Jets. Obviously that's where Devin
Speaker 3: Jackson plays, also former Eastern Suburbs player. So yeah, great
Speaker 3: for Steve O. I think he's probably ready for that,
Speaker 3: that next step in his career. And yeah, it'd be
Speaker 3: great to see how he goes. He's moving the whole
Speaker 3: family over and yeah it's a nice sweet town and yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm looking. I think I think if bev Is or
Speaker 3: whoever is the Phoenix coach, it probably they'll probably have
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on Steve o recruiting some of
Speaker 3: the form some of the football Ferns and and you
Speaker 3: know domestic talent.
Speaker 1: Yea, I was going to ask, are there pliers of
Speaker 1: Eastern suburbs who could make the step up to a
Speaker 1: league who Stevens worked with in the past, who who
Speaker 1: could potentially I'm not expecting your name names, but are
Speaker 1: there some he might he might look at getting across.
Speaker 3: Definitely worth the discussion, And yeah, it's got You've got
Speaker 3: to be careful because it's not a club level coach now,
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of that that next it's professional
Speaker 3: football semi professional where the relationships kind of change and
Speaker 3: you're not it's not club football where you're rolling up
Speaker 3: on a Sunday ninety minutes before kickoff and things like that.
Speaker 3: So yes, I think there are players that probably he'd
Speaker 3: been overlooked by the Phoenix in the past, or even
Speaker 3: the Football Ferns for that matter, that he could reach
Speaker 3: out to. But yeah, you've got to make sure you're
Speaker 3: you're picking players with the right mindset that are ready
Speaker 3: for that step up.
Speaker 1: All right, I like you. I thought Kay Taylor had
Speaker 1: a couple of good games. I thought Katie Kitchen as well.
Speaker 1: Thought Katie Kitchen stood out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's our best player, I reckon at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked them the way she that she picked
Speaker 1: herself up after missing that penalty as well in the
Speaker 1: second game and still continued to contribute. Good to see
Speaker 1: Millie Clegg get a goal and Jackie hand obviously, Jackie
Speaker 1: Han's got a new club, This Norwegian club of Theirs
Speaker 1: is becoming quite the key we are post. Yeah what's
Speaker 1: it called again, cold Boton. I think it's Old Boston.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to I don't know how to
Speaker 3: pronounce it really, but it's Yeah, that's where Lizanton and
Speaker 3: Olivia Chance also plays.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see see how we go. It might
Speaker 2: be nice living in Norway.
Speaker 1: I guess who knows football is good time. I mean
Speaker 1: we've said a lot. Jackie Hann needs to be playing right,
Speaker 1: she needs to be playing at a decent level. She is,
Speaker 1: she could be our best player.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well they're their tenth in the competition.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because her last club got relegated, I think
Speaker 3: it was from Memories, so she field she played for. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: so yeah, it'll be interesting to see how she goes,
Speaker 3: but I was still keen for her to come back
Speaker 3: to the Phoenix and all honesty, but maybe she's love
Speaker 3: in Europe.
Speaker 1: Indeed, just before we go Club World Cup, Auckland City
Speaker 1: NIL buying Munich ten in Cincinnati this morning. Someone asked
Speaker 1: me yesterday you know this is and it is a mismatch, right,
Speaker 1: And that's been the narrative all the way leading up
Speaker 1: that by in Munich, this team of multi millionaire professionals
Speaker 1: up against Auckland City, not Auckland f C. Though some
Speaker 1: news agencies around the world, I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: saw this had pictures had photos of Auckland f C
Speaker 1: in their articles, not Auckland City, so there was a
Speaker 1: bit of confusion there. But anyway, this is this is
Speaker 1: so this is a strictly amateur side where most of
Speaker 1: not all of these players have other jobs. Somebody saying
Speaker 1: to say, is this going to be you know, there's
Speaker 1: this going to be a nine to ten nallis you know? No,
Speaker 1: this will be this would probably be like a three
Speaker 1: or four neil ten Nils surprised me, it really did,
Speaker 1: Were you surprised?
Speaker 3: I was absolutely surprised, like not surprised when you consider
Speaker 3: Auckland City are just you know, part time footballer is
Speaker 3: playing this little domesic league in New Zealand and they're
Speaker 3: all plumbers and builders and teachers and things like that.
Speaker 3: But I did think, based on you know, what we've
Speaker 3: seen from Auckland City for so many years, they would
Speaker 3: put up more of a fight. I mean not saying
Speaker 3: they didn't fight, but I thought.
Speaker 1: It would be a lot those they were just overrun.
Speaker 2: Maybe five goals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just overall. I think everybody knew that
Speaker 1: they were going to lose the game, but yeah, they
Speaker 1: were just overrum. You sent me some stats thirty one
Speaker 1: shots by and had so Actually that speaks to Connor
Speaker 1: Tracy having a pretty good game and goal. He made
Speaker 1: a few saves unfortunately to pick out ten Auckland City
Speaker 1: just the one effort, you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: you know, we know about over here, We know about
Speaker 1: the rich, you know, really impressive history of Auckland City,
Speaker 1: don't we. You know the club World Cups they've been
Speaker 1: to where they've done really well. This is a different
Speaker 1: format now, and there's already a lot of chatter about
Speaker 1: if the format is going to throw up ten nil
Speaker 1: results then is at the right format. But you know,
Speaker 1: we know, and hopefully it doesn't doesn't put too much
Speaker 1: of a dent in the in the confidence of these
Speaker 1: players because they've got to play ben Fica and Bocker juniors.
Speaker 1: You know this, it's a group of death, man, absolute
Speaker 1: group of death. The flip side is, hey, when one
Speaker 1: of these guys are going to get the chance to
Speaker 1: play against the likes of Harry Kane and others. But man,
Speaker 1: hopefully they can, they can recover steel themselves. Stadium look good,
Speaker 1: didn't it. It was a good crowd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a good crowd. They clearly
Speaker 3: weren't there for for Auckland City. They're probably more there
Speaker 3: for Harry Kane and by music buying Munich. But how
Speaker 3: about this stat Auckland reported just over four hundred and
Speaker 3: ninety one or a million dollars in revenue for the
Speaker 3: last financial year. The the Bayern Munich kind of reported
Speaker 3: two or seven hundred and thirty million pounds in revenue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in revenue.
Speaker 1: It's mental, isn't it.
Speaker 3: And Nathan Lobbo, the twenty two year old left back,
Speaker 3: he's going to be sitting his university exam from the
Speaker 3: hotel room this week.
Speaker 1: See these are the stories we love a It's like,
Speaker 1: these are the stories they get picked up. It's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, the Auckland City team have got a hairdresser
Speaker 1: and a real estate agent and a bloke sitting is
Speaker 1: his university exams in the hotel room up against the
Speaker 1: as I say, the gazillionaires of Bayern Munich. It's it's
Speaker 1: one of those you know, those not rags to riches
Speaker 1: but haves and have not stories. Unfortunately, the ten nil
Speaker 1: scoreline is what's going to get picked up on. If
Speaker 1: they had lost three or four nil, it would really
Speaker 1: wouldn't have you know, got much more than a passing mention.
Speaker 1: But ten nill is just like a's that's a headline grabber, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and not in a good way.
Speaker 3: Well, you wonder if maybe it is you know, I
Speaker 3: love Auckland City contesting for this spot in the Club
Speaker 3: World Cup, but you wonder if it'll go back to
Speaker 3: that age old debate or of whether a New Zealand
Speaker 3: DAI League team should be there. You know, we've wanted
Speaker 3: to see the Phoenix there for some time, or at
Speaker 3: least can.
Speaker 2: Test for it.
Speaker 3: And you know Auckland f C probably would have. I
Speaker 3: think Auckland f C would have also got smashed by
Speaker 3: by Munich, but maybe by half of that school line.
Speaker 3: So I wonder if maybe this result will get some
Speaker 3: people talking.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's a discussion for another day. I can tell
Speaker 1: you I've had a couple of people already start that
Speaker 1: conversation with me. You're not the first person to suggest
Speaker 1: that perhaps it should be one of our professional clubs
Speaker 1: that goes to the Club World Cup rather than Auckland City.
Speaker 1: The rules as they are at the moment that Auckland
Speaker 1: City have gone. We look forward to their games against
Speaker 1: Benfica on Saturday and Boca Junior's next Wednesday. That brings
Speaker 1: to an end a bit of a marathon podcast by
Speaker 1: our standards. Thanks for hanging in with us. Hopefully we've
Speaker 1: brought you some football news. What have we got to
Speaker 1: look forward to? Bonnie, I don't think the Football Ferns
Speaker 1: have got any game schedule for the new little while.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing that that the All Whites Soccer US home
Speaker 1: and away series in September is continuing to be talked about.
Speaker 2: That'll be good, Yeah, that'd be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the Ferns aren't playing this window, but
Speaker 3: they'll be back later that I think in every other
Speaker 3: window after that this year. But I guess what we've
Speaker 3: got to look out for now is all the A
Speaker 3: League movement and seeing, yeah, if Ben Wayne does come
Speaker 3: to Auckland f C or or what happens with the Phoenix,
Speaker 3: whether they can get their hands on some big imputs.
Speaker 3: So that's that's coming up. But also sadly it sounds
Speaker 3: like it's true. It sounds like there's no woman's Auckland
Speaker 3: f C team.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're hearing? It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not going to happen this year.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that is such a shame.
Speaker 2: Guss It.
Speaker 1: That is such a shame. I was honestly looking so
Speaker 1: much looking forward to seeing what Auckland f C would
Speaker 1: do with a women's side after what they did with
Speaker 1: their men. So so you're hearing it's just not going
Speaker 1: to happen this season. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The one thing that annoys me as well as kind
Speaker 3: of you're hearing from from the club saying, oh, you know.
Speaker 2: It's the A League.
Speaker 3: It's the A League, just A league's decision because they
Speaker 3: don't have enough to fund it, but you also don't
Speaker 3: get a lot of motivation from the club. They're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, we understand, we don't want to rush it.
Speaker 3: And my thing is hold on. You rush the bloody
Speaker 3: men's team and that was success, you know, so yeah,
Speaker 3: rush it. Yeah, I'm like, bring it on. And there
Speaker 3: are players, you know, I'm sure there are a few
Speaker 3: Kiwis that were ready to come home and play for
Speaker 3: Auckland FC.
Speaker 2: So it is a shame.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well we'll have to look at the movement,
Speaker 3: at the Phoenix woman and the Phoenix men and the men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep it. We'll keep our ears close to
Speaker 1: the ground for any any little snippets of information and
Speaker 1: bring them all together for you in a podcast when
Speaker 1: we have enough material. Yeah, thank you Bonnie Luke Brooksmith
Speaker 1: for the All Whites World Cup square right there there,
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