1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Now the fishing industry is welcoming a proposed major shakeup 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: of the Fisheries Act. It would see a loosening of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: catch regulations and restrict who can access camera footage from 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: fishing boats, meaning only MPI and the courts would have 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: access to the footage. Keith Morson as a fisherman and 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: owner of Eggmont Seafoods in New Plymouth, and he joins me, now, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: thank you for your time, Keith, Good morning. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, Francesca Hey, is this a win for you? Look, 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: this has been in the something that the industry has 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: been wanting to get addressed for a long period of time. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're quite a management system has been in 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: force now for nearly forty years, but we've had a 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: real change in technology on our vessels, the amount of 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: transparency that we have, and you know, there's a lot 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: of technology that the fishermen are dealing with these days. 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: So the regulations of the Fisheries Act needs to take 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: into account the changes that we've had within the industry. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: So you know, the changes that are being recommended or 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: that are being addressed in this discussion paper are certainly 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: things that we've been having to deal with for a long. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: Period of time, Keith, the catching regulations are they holding 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: you back? 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Look, it's really complex. The catching regulations that we're having 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: to deal with on a day to day basis make 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: it really difficult for the guys on the water and 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: also for the land based operators as well. So I 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: think this will simplify and make it easier for both 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: the harvesters on the water and the operators on land 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: to be able to get on and do their business. 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: What do you think about anyone being able to access 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: footage from boats? 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I know that people want and there's certainly 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: been some bad press around the fresh fishing industry for 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: a long period of time, but we're in a really 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: heavily regulated environment and it's very transparent what we do 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: on a day to day basis. A lot of these 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: fishermen are out on the water for three, four or 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: five days at a time, living on those vessels. To 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: have footage of those operations available to the general public, 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: you know, I just don't think that that should necessarily, 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, just just be as visible as people would 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: like it to be. You know, the regulators certainly have 43 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: access to that information and they can see what fishermen 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: are doing, where they're doing it, how they're doing it, 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: and I just don't know that that's something that should 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: be available to the general public. It could be taken 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: out of context if they clip or take certain parts 48 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: of a fishing activity, and we've seen that play out 49 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: in the past sometimes with NGOs. So no, I don't 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: think that footage that our fishermen are supplying is necessarily 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: something that should be in the public. Tonay, Okay, Can 52 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: I just go. 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Back to catching regulations for a moment. Loosening the catch regulations? 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Would that be quite area specific? 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Look, it's like I said, it's really complex. For example, 56 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: you have some fish species that have got minimum legal 57 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: sizes snapper, tero key. You've got other species that haven't 58 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: got minimum legal sizes. So if you have a small snapper, 59 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: you can return that to the sea legally. If you 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: have a small gernerd, you're required to bring that back in. 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily a loosening of the regulations. It's 62 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: just providing the ability for the fishermen to make some 63 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: decisions around what species they should be bringing. 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: In from an economic point of view. But whilst they 65 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: are harvesting, they're still going to be recording all of 66 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: their cats against quota, so there's not going to be 67 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: a sustainability issue. It's just about simplifying their ability to 68 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: operate and return tists to the sea. If it has 69 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: no real economic value, there's no sense in bringing in 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: small gerner that's just going to end up in landfill. 71 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: It's father off to be returned to the sea and 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: go back in the food chain. 73 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much for your time in talking 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: us through that. That was Keith Morson. 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