1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,587 --> 00:00:15,107 Speaker 2: You always catch up with James mcconey. Hello mate, how 4 00:00:15,147 --> 00:00:16,627 Speaker 2: are you to day? Yeah? 5 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:19,387 Speaker 3: Good, thanks Poney. It's a bit of a crappy long 6 00:00:19,427 --> 00:00:23,307 Speaker 3: weekend out there, but yeah, it's still watching a lot 7 00:00:23,347 --> 00:00:23,707 Speaker 3: of sport. 8 00:00:24,027 --> 00:00:26,027 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty on, plenty on. I want to ask 9 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:28,627 Speaker 2: you about the All Blacks coach, not who you necessarily 10 00:00:28,627 --> 00:00:30,627 Speaker 2: think is going to be, but you know, what have 11 00:00:30,707 --> 00:00:34,347 Speaker 2: you made of the last ten days since Scott Robertson 12 00:00:34,707 --> 00:00:38,107 Speaker 2: was relieved of his duties. What do you predict from 13 00:00:38,147 --> 00:00:40,547 Speaker 2: here in terms of the process that might might be 14 00:00:40,627 --> 00:00:41,187 Speaker 2: carried out? 15 00:00:42,227 --> 00:00:45,187 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's interesting seeing listening to Tony Brown 16 00:00:45,187 --> 00:00:48,227 Speaker 3: who was talking to Mike hosking about his I guess 17 00:00:48,347 --> 00:00:51,667 Speaker 3: his loyalty to Rassi Erasmus now that he's signed that contract, 18 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:54,467 Speaker 3: doesn't look like there's any way of budging him free, 19 00:00:54,507 --> 00:00:57,747 Speaker 3: which just as timing as everything. Right, So you're losing 20 00:00:58,907 --> 00:01:01,307 Speaker 3: well one of the great minds of rugby, and of 21 00:01:01,347 --> 00:01:05,187 Speaker 3: course that means Jamie Joseph needs to find some running 22 00:01:05,187 --> 00:01:07,587 Speaker 3: mates and luck I'm engine last week it could be 23 00:01:07,627 --> 00:01:11,347 Speaker 3: a traveling Wilbury's style of All Stars. But I think, 24 00:01:11,747 --> 00:01:14,227 Speaker 3: you know, Dave Reni has to be considered and I 25 00:01:14,267 --> 00:01:17,147 Speaker 3: think that he'd be one guy who's big on culture. 26 00:01:17,547 --> 00:01:20,307 Speaker 3: And I think if there's anything that we've learned from 27 00:01:20,347 --> 00:01:22,947 Speaker 3: the I guess the player revolt that they don't want 28 00:01:22,987 --> 00:01:26,427 Speaker 3: to call it that, but that's really what it is, 29 00:01:25,867 --> 00:01:28,747 Speaker 3: is that they need to work on their on their 30 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:29,747 Speaker 3: culture and the team. 31 00:01:29,987 --> 00:01:32,627 Speaker 2: Now, Wayne Smith, you would have or Sir Wayne, my apologies, 32 00:01:32,747 --> 00:01:34,187 Speaker 2: you would have picked up on this news that he 33 00:01:34,307 --> 00:01:36,907 Speaker 2: is he is leaving New Zealand Rugby to take up 34 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:38,347 Speaker 2: an overseas opportunity. 35 00:01:38,427 --> 00:01:40,827 Speaker 3: Want to make of this, Yeah, apparently he made the 36 00:01:40,867 --> 00:01:43,427 Speaker 3: call before the review came through, so it was just 37 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:49,227 Speaker 3: independently decided he had enough time doing that. Look, it 38 00:01:49,667 --> 00:01:55,547 Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't really reflect well on the region that's 39 00:01:55,587 --> 00:01:57,507 Speaker 3: just been ousted. But at the same time, I think 40 00:01:57,547 --> 00:02:01,187 Speaker 3: Wayne Smith is very loyal to Scott Robertson. It doesn't 41 00:02:01,227 --> 00:02:03,467 Speaker 3: actually surprise me that Wayne Smith is leaving. By the 42 00:02:03,507 --> 00:02:07,307 Speaker 3: way he enjoys spending his winter is on the Gold 43 00:02:07,307 --> 00:02:10,627 Speaker 3: Coast and he's got an apartment there that's where he 44 00:02:10,787 --> 00:02:13,307 Speaker 3: likes to go, and he also has a side hustle, 45 00:02:13,387 --> 00:02:16,307 Speaker 3: a job where he It's not often reported, but he 46 00:02:16,347 --> 00:02:18,667 Speaker 3: works with the Melbourne Storm and he goes there as 47 00:02:18,667 --> 00:02:22,307 Speaker 3: a consultant. Craig Bellamy loves him. They share ideas and 48 00:02:22,347 --> 00:02:25,147 Speaker 3: of course that cross pollination is great and we should 49 00:02:25,147 --> 00:02:28,107 Speaker 3: be doing it more in all our workplaces really and 50 00:02:28,627 --> 00:02:31,467 Speaker 3: Wayne Smith was big on that. So I could see him, 51 00:02:31,907 --> 00:02:35,467 Speaker 3: you know, moving to another type of consultancy role, if 52 00:02:35,707 --> 00:02:38,627 Speaker 3: but he's sixty nine in April, so if he was 53 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,867 Speaker 3: to take on a big colting a coaching role somewhere, 54 00:02:41,907 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 3: that would be quite a big, big surprise. 55 00:02:44,107 --> 00:02:46,147 Speaker 2: Can you imagine anyone sitting down with Wayne Smith and 56 00:02:46,187 --> 00:02:46,707 Speaker 2: not enjoying it? 57 00:02:46,787 --> 00:02:46,947 Speaker 3: You know? 58 00:02:46,987 --> 00:02:48,667 Speaker 2: Can you imagine anybody thank He's a bit of a Dirk. 59 00:02:48,747 --> 00:02:52,027 Speaker 2: Isn't he be universally loved, wouldn't he? 60 00:02:52,907 --> 00:02:55,467 Speaker 3: I know? And even imagine watching sport with Wayne Smith 61 00:02:55,507 --> 00:02:57,707 Speaker 3: anyhow in the living room sometimes you just don't want 62 00:02:57,707 --> 00:03:00,267 Speaker 3: people to talk. But with Wayne Smith, I'd happily pay 63 00:03:00,307 --> 00:03:04,027 Speaker 3: for the privilege of watching a Test match with Smithy. 64 00:03:04,587 --> 00:03:07,827 Speaker 3: Sir Wayne, Look, I think he's off to see the 65 00:03:07,867 --> 00:03:10,467 Speaker 3: Storm this week. I think because he goes there regularly 66 00:03:10,507 --> 00:03:13,547 Speaker 3: and he's going to watch the Australian Open and as 67 00:03:13,587 --> 00:03:17,027 Speaker 3: far as I know, I don't think there is another 68 00:03:17,147 --> 00:03:19,987 Speaker 3: job that he's been linked to yet. Well you know, 69 00:03:20,387 --> 00:03:23,227 Speaker 3: there's nothing's been set in stone, but that remains to 70 00:03:23,267 --> 00:03:25,987 Speaker 3: be seen to watch this space. So you know, I 71 00:03:26,187 --> 00:03:29,107 Speaker 3: actually just on the razor thing. I do feel sorry 72 00:03:29,147 --> 00:03:31,707 Speaker 3: for him because to me, he was in a development phase. 73 00:03:31,747 --> 00:03:34,867 Speaker 3: But of course nobody in New Zealand, nobody who listens 74 00:03:34,907 --> 00:03:37,267 Speaker 3: to New stiks there be has any tolerance for that, 75 00:03:37,707 --> 00:03:39,427 Speaker 3: none of for when it comes to the All Blacks, 76 00:03:39,507 --> 00:03:43,227 Speaker 3: because you know, it's they want results and that's it. 77 00:03:43,387 --> 00:03:46,467 Speaker 3: So you know, for some reason we can't, we can't 78 00:03:46,507 --> 00:03:49,067 Speaker 3: be seen developing in the All Blacks. But that's exactly 79 00:03:49,107 --> 00:03:51,467 Speaker 3: what he was in. But that doesn't that doesn't take 80 00:03:51,467 --> 00:03:54,307 Speaker 3: away the fact that winning and gaining the respect and 81 00:03:54,307 --> 00:03:58,027 Speaker 3: the trust of established players is tougher than most people imagine. 82 00:03:58,147 --> 00:04:00,827 Speaker 3: You know, they've grown, men have been exposed and I'm 83 00:04:00,827 --> 00:04:04,307 Speaker 3: talking about the established players. They've been exposed to multiple 84 00:04:04,347 --> 00:04:08,747 Speaker 3: cult coaching styles and actions from elite coaches. So talk 85 00:04:08,787 --> 00:04:11,867 Speaker 3: about a tough crowd. You know, that is the thing 86 00:04:11,907 --> 00:04:16,427 Speaker 3: that's tough. But if you want to some some holiday viewing, 87 00:04:16,747 --> 00:04:20,707 Speaker 3: try looking at the UK celebrity Traitors. If you haven't 88 00:04:20,747 --> 00:04:24,747 Speaker 3: seen it, it's on three now and if you've got 89 00:04:24,787 --> 00:04:29,507 Speaker 3: that at and it's amazing watching all the people trust 90 00:04:29,507 --> 00:04:32,107 Speaker 3: the Traders. So you know, anything can happen in the 91 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:34,987 Speaker 3: team environment, is what I'm saying, Poney, that's the moral 92 00:04:35,027 --> 00:04:37,187 Speaker 3: of the story. You just don't know who to trust sometimes, No, 93 00:04:37,307 --> 00:04:37,667 Speaker 3: you don't. 94 00:04:37,747 --> 00:04:39,827 Speaker 2: I feel like you and I have developed a fairly 95 00:04:39,867 --> 00:04:41,907 Speaker 2: good sort of relationship over the years. I would never 96 00:04:42,867 --> 00:04:44,667 Speaker 2: you know, I think we can we can, we can 97 00:04:44,667 --> 00:04:47,427 Speaker 2: trust on another. But you've got me worried now I've 98 00:04:47,467 --> 00:04:49,747 Speaker 2: seen that Traders. Shown's not my favorite Chobany. I think 99 00:04:49,747 --> 00:04:53,787 Speaker 2: we digress. Emerging cricket talent I've got written down here. 100 00:04:53,867 --> 00:04:57,787 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you optimistic about the future of our game? 101 00:04:59,067 --> 00:05:01,467 Speaker 3: I am in the bowling stocks. Really, this is what 102 00:05:01,547 --> 00:05:03,947 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about. I think Christian Clark, who 103 00:05:04,427 --> 00:05:06,547 Speaker 3: may have noticed, I'm not sure if I mentioned he's 104 00:05:06,547 --> 00:05:09,987 Speaker 3: from too much? Did I mention that you have? Okay, Yeah, 105 00:05:10,027 --> 00:05:12,307 Speaker 3: of course I've mentioned that Pine's from TiO Mudo. When 106 00:05:12,307 --> 00:05:15,147 Speaker 3: he was the top wicket taker in the ODI series 107 00:05:15,227 --> 00:05:20,947 Speaker 3: victory against India seven wickets and he dismissed Variat Coley twice. So, hello, 108 00:05:21,027 --> 00:05:24,707 Speaker 3: we've unveiled someone outstanding. He happens to be from my hometown. 109 00:05:25,027 --> 00:05:29,107 Speaker 3: Shout out to Ta Tilmutu in the house. But then also, 110 00:05:29,147 --> 00:05:31,627 Speaker 3: I was watching the Supersmans the other night and there's 111 00:05:31,627 --> 00:05:34,427 Speaker 3: a bowler called Lockey Harper who took four for seventeen 112 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:36,787 Speaker 3: in the T twenty. You don't see many four fers. 113 00:05:36,947 --> 00:05:41,387 Speaker 3: He's another medium fast bowler out of the Canterbury system. 114 00:05:41,467 --> 00:05:43,667 Speaker 3: And I was like, that isn't too bad, you know, 115 00:05:43,827 --> 00:05:48,187 Speaker 3: like just seeing those players come through and get you know, 116 00:05:48,387 --> 00:05:50,947 Speaker 3: make a name for themselves. We need to have a 117 00:05:50,987 --> 00:05:53,027 Speaker 3: segment that's called remember the Name. 118 00:05:53,747 --> 00:05:57,027 Speaker 2: Yes, we should. We should have something like that. Rem 119 00:05:57,067 --> 00:05:58,987 Speaker 2: who was the Warriors player. We should have had him 120 00:05:58,987 --> 00:06:00,707 Speaker 2: in there that you mentioned to the back end of 121 00:06:00,747 --> 00:06:02,027 Speaker 2: last year. What was his name? 122 00:06:02,507 --> 00:06:05,107 Speaker 3: Morgan Gannon morgan Gannon. 123 00:06:05,227 --> 00:06:07,907 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the name. Week we Actually I got 124 00:06:07,947 --> 00:06:11,187 Speaker 2: Andy to save the audio because when he becomes, you know, 125 00:06:11,227 --> 00:06:14,587 Speaker 2: a Leka haalaesima type of icon for the Warriors, we 126 00:06:14,667 --> 00:06:17,147 Speaker 2: can play back your audio and all sort of luxuriate 127 00:06:17,187 --> 00:06:17,907 Speaker 2: in your brilliance. 128 00:06:18,707 --> 00:06:25,907 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, we can hopefully remember the name. Segment is born. Actually, 129 00:06:25,907 --> 00:06:27,827 Speaker 3: one thing I did want to mention about Razor just 130 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:31,027 Speaker 3: does I had an analogy. Imagine the best high school 131 00:06:31,027 --> 00:06:35,787 Speaker 3: geography teacher in the world going into teach a class 132 00:06:35,787 --> 00:06:40,427 Speaker 3: of PhD students in volcanology. You know, it's just the 133 00:06:40,467 --> 00:06:43,307 Speaker 3: step up sometimes is really, really tough, and that's what 134 00:06:43,347 --> 00:06:45,867 Speaker 3: you can underestimate or can surprise you. 135 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:50,147 Speaker 2: Indeed, Fernando Mendoza, I wasn't completely familiar with him, but 136 00:06:50,187 --> 00:06:52,907 Speaker 2: he's he's had a pretty busy old weekend and he's 137 00:06:52,947 --> 00:06:55,987 Speaker 2: been on television shows. He's declared for the NFL Draft. 138 00:06:56,227 --> 00:06:58,627 Speaker 2: This is the Indiana quarterback. 139 00:06:59,507 --> 00:07:03,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, he is the most beloved quarterback in college football history. 140 00:07:03,707 --> 00:07:06,267 Speaker 3: No one has a bad way to say about Fernando Mendoz. 141 00:07:07,627 --> 00:07:10,827 Speaker 3: His mother, it's very sad. She's got multiple sclerosis. So 142 00:07:10,867 --> 00:07:14,387 Speaker 3: she watches the games from a wheelchair. That which means 143 00:07:14,427 --> 00:07:16,947 Speaker 3: his dad is right by his side, so he doesn't 144 00:07:16,947 --> 00:07:19,747 Speaker 3: stand up in chair. He stays down at the level 145 00:07:19,747 --> 00:07:23,267 Speaker 3: with his wife there. And they have this incredible, you know, 146 00:07:23,387 --> 00:07:27,467 Speaker 3: family unit. His Fernando's younger brother has traveled with him 147 00:07:27,787 --> 00:07:30,307 Speaker 3: and been on Good Morning America and all this sort 148 00:07:30,307 --> 00:07:32,907 Speaker 3: of stuff. Just this perfect family. But what I love 149 00:07:32,947 --> 00:07:35,547 Speaker 3: about it is that he represents a sort of a 150 00:07:35,587 --> 00:07:39,387 Speaker 3: modern America. All his grandparents are from Cuba, so you know, 151 00:07:39,427 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 3: it sort of flies in the face of Trump, you know, 152 00:07:41,547 --> 00:07:45,467 Speaker 3: deporting every Latino. He's fright and center. It's just that 153 00:07:45,667 --> 00:07:51,147 Speaker 3: whole thing of him being this wholesome guy. He really 154 00:07:51,187 --> 00:07:53,747 Speaker 3: loves God. But he might be it looks like he's 155 00:07:53,747 --> 00:07:56,787 Speaker 3: going to get drafted to Since City, Las Vegas, so 156 00:07:57,587 --> 00:08:00,147 Speaker 3: he'll have to clutch his faith very close to his 157 00:08:00,267 --> 00:08:04,707 Speaker 3: chest when he's there. But if you want something fun 158 00:08:04,747 --> 00:08:09,387 Speaker 3: to watch, as for example, his game winning touchdown is 159 00:08:09,427 --> 00:08:13,107 Speaker 3: basically he dives like Superman. So it's a very American 160 00:08:13,987 --> 00:08:16,787 Speaker 3: style a way to win a game. And then and 161 00:08:16,827 --> 00:08:20,747 Speaker 3: then all his game show appearances, I sorry, chat show appearances, 162 00:08:20,827 --> 00:08:25,107 Speaker 3: Jimmy Fallon, he's breaking records by throwing a football at 163 00:08:25,147 --> 00:08:29,707 Speaker 3: actual vinyl records and stuff, and he just he's just lovable, 164 00:08:29,747 --> 00:08:32,347 Speaker 3: you know, But obviously do that after three pm after 165 00:08:32,387 --> 00:08:33,747 Speaker 3: the Jason Pine Sports Show. 166 00:08:33,907 --> 00:08:37,547 Speaker 2: Indeed, just before you go very quickly text here what speed? 167 00:08:37,827 --> 00:08:40,267 Speaker 2: At what speed does a medium fast bawler become a 168 00:08:40,267 --> 00:08:40,947 Speaker 2: fast bawler? 169 00:08:41,787 --> 00:08:44,507 Speaker 3: I know exactly, I feel I don't think there's a 170 00:08:44,507 --> 00:08:48,347 Speaker 3: speed camera on Super Smash. I was looking for Lucky harperstats. 171 00:08:47,747 --> 00:08:50,787 Speaker 2: Dri drinks one thirty five over one thirty five makes 172 00:08:50,787 --> 00:08:52,587 Speaker 2: you a fast bawler, I think so. 173 00:08:52,707 --> 00:08:54,947 Speaker 3: I think over one thirty five. And speaking of fast, 174 00:08:54,947 --> 00:08:57,867 Speaker 3: as you see Timwhelpton, New Zealand's fastest man round a 175 00:08:57,947 --> 00:09:00,947 Speaker 3: ten oh ten point zero two for one hundred meters 176 00:09:01,227 --> 00:09:04,667 Speaker 3: in wang and Nui and wind assisted five point eight 177 00:09:04,787 --> 00:09:08,027 Speaker 3: meters per seconds. A huge window, but how quick is that? 178 00:09:08,067 --> 00:09:10,947 Speaker 3: You may remember him as Larry the Lamb in the 179 00:09:11,267 --> 00:09:12,787 Speaker 3: Impiancip Mascot Race. 180 00:09:13,347 --> 00:09:17,387 Speaker 2: Remember the name, Remember the Lamb. 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